Pity Subs

[Anonymous No.]

The egg predictions were right, she really did end up complaining about being the last to a million. Do the JP or ID girls complain this much about subs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK9q8gXQE-w

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>>4528654
i think she should look at the brightside. like she is the strongest underdog of all gen.

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>>4528654
Based eggman, they hated him for telling the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>Falling for this song and dance of boo hoo me again for the nth time
Bitch is like the one of the best SC earners in the business. Of course your viewership is low when your content is directed at milking paypigs saviorfags.

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wow

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>>4528654
I CALL UPON THE 5 SCHIZOS AND 5 KIARA FANATICS TO COME FORTH AND SAMEFAG LIKE THERE'S NO TOMORROW WHILE THE REST OF US LAUGH AT YOU.

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>>4528654
>>4529123
did we not already have this thread?

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>>4528654
who gives a fuck about subscribers i'm coming here for you

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>>4528654
"WE" already talk about this topic for 3 days straight you fucking retard, what else you want to know

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>>4528654
>Do the JP or ID girls complain this much about subs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOPmdqaz444

now stop being a retard anon, the bait is so stale I'm actually saging this shit thread

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>>4528654
I love the fact she seethe because Ina btfo her to being the last to reach 1m, ungrateful bitch only care about number, you can tell thousands good things to her and one shit would turn that good things for nothing because she can only see shit and likes reacting to it.

>uhhh its because she has low self esteem
No no, its because she has shit personality. She never learn, never grow up, never reconcile with her shit past, just keep forcing her shitty radiances all over.

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Kiara should probably stop browsing /vt/

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>>4531920
>She never learn
just how gullible must you be to not realize that this is intentional? She's been whining on streams from pretty much day one, and that's the sole reason she's ahead of everyone in superchats.

She does it today, and no doubt, saviourfags will build her another golden throne. On top of that, now you talk about her, keeping her name alive and her threads afloat. What else would people be talking about, how great she sings? How good she's at videogames?

Wake up, this has always been her main shtick.

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>>4532059
Just like all the GFE with the prime example Rushia, fuck low viewers, they're faking it and making bank

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holy fucking shit
enough this thread with same exact shit content

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>>4532007
No I wont. Why do you hate me?

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>>4529265
yeah, this is the third one I've seen on this

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You'd think Kiara could pay you fuckers rent with all the superchat money she makes.

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>>4528654
> third thread about this topic
We get it, orange woman bad. Saged.
I don't like get either but c'mon

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>>4532473
Perhaps you'd have less haters if your mouth was in this shape

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>>4528654
Same exact thread, same exact schizo arguments, same exact defensive arguments, and probably the same people as literally just one day ago. Can you all just get a room and fuck already?

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>>4532698

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>>4531821
Marie Antoinette and the chicken are both austrians. What is coco trying to imply here?

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>>4528654

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Wow, she really is ungrateful.
She's going to have a complete mental breakdown once EN2 starts taking away her superchat money.

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>>4528654
Man, what a bitch. The type of person who can never be pleased.

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>5 minutes out of almost 12 hours where she shares her insecurities
>openly admits that it's a poor mindset, and that she shouldn't be thinking like that
>the other 99% of the video make it clear that she IS actually grateful for her subs
>383 posts and 60 image replies omitted.

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>>4531682
Some people aren't on here 24hrs a day 7 days a week.
This is the first I've seen it.

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>>4534469
Agreed, she can be happy where she is but less happy about how she got there. I think she should focus on innovating more like Ame. Some ideas will fail (German stories) but others might succeed (Holotalk)

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>>4528654

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Fuck off OP. All of us already discussed this last night.

She whined about it for 5 mins out of those 12hr stream.

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>>4535683
Every day until you like it

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>>4531821
lad that was a longtime ago when hololive was a different beast and coco corrected her mindset.

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rumao

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>Egg
>Right

lol

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>>4532653
she does, she pays an enormously high rent with kfp dipshits spamming us all day. god knows how many people waste their life posting her here 24/7 only to have their effort and her get btfo'd and shat on.

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>>4528654
>yfw antis have more attention from kiara than kfp

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>>4534469
Well, kiara just sucks, ya know. I feel the incessant urge to do this day after day.

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>>4539381
This is just people on general, not just Kiara. this dude i use to watch (RIP) will pick this one negative message in a sea of positive message, be mad and talk about it for half an hour

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>>4539792
see
>>4535960

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>>4531920
Based, but fuck off seanigger. I thought you were dealing with a storm or someshit.

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>>4528809
>is low when your content is directed at milking paypigs

Pareto principle,the 20% give you 80% of the money.But if you focus on the 20% the 80% leave.

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>>4535960
This I'm still waiting after 3 months for my pay

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>>4539831
>How can this one negative comment exist? I'm perfect so this can't be possible.
Is that the general mindset for this?

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>>4541317
you do it for free, but that emotional dependence you have wears on her

[Anonymous No.]

stop making these fucking threads kiara

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>>4541560
Never do something you're good at for free fag

[Anonymous No.]

rent free

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>>4528654
>Do the JP or ID girls complain this much about subs?
Yes. Stop only watching clips.

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>>4539831
Reckful was legit schizo tho. To your point, I think most people suffer from a negativity bias, but it’s bad form to do what Kiara did here.

[Anonymous No.]

>The egg predictions were right, she really did end up complaining about being the last to a million. Do the JP or ID girls complain this much about subs?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK9q8gXQE-w [Embed]

[Anonymous No.]

Does she have any good qualities? It's always people hating on her then her schizos trying to defend her, but I never see anyone say what she is actually good at besides whining and playing the victim.
She's not good at singing, her art is average at best, her video game skills aren't good, her voice is loud and annoying to listen to. The only positive things I see said are the "I wanna sex her" type comments. I just don't see what the appeal is after watching her several times.

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>>4531682
Some of us don’t live on this board kfpfag

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>>4547188
Not all of Ina’s streams are art streams and not all of Gura/Mori’s streams are song/music streams. Not all of Ame’s streams are innovative like Fishtank, etc. Yet people still watch those streams because they find them entertaining in some way, which is subjective and varies from person to person. Stand-out qualities are definitely a boon but they’re not required to adequately fill the Hololive streamer role.

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Why can't Kiara just be happy of beating all the other Gens to the one million club?
Hell, someone should tell her to organize a collab with all the EN to celebrate that milestone, really rub it on the other Gen's faces, specially Pekora who she obviously is not in good terms anymore.

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>>4548945
Because she will never be happy. She has a gaping wound where her self-esteem should be. And this will only get worse as she spends more time gazing in the mirror through ego-searching and measuring herself against others. It makes her off-putting to listen to - and comes off as ungrateful for all the success she does have. So so many Vtubers would love to be in her position, to have such loyal fans, to get that kind of income.

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Kiara literally can't NOT talk about something. It's both a good and a bad thing. Occasionally funny, occasionally tiresome.

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>>4548945
wait what

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>>4528654
Always knew Anya was better she accepts where she's at.

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Definitive proof that Kiara does numberfag and that she was treating her sub count as a competition against Ina. And now KFP are moving the goalposts in an effort to defend her.

Before it was: “Kiara doesn’t numberfag, it’s just you!!”
Then it was: “Yeah she cares about numbers, but she doesn’t treat her situation with Ina as a competition! Only you care”
Now it’s: “She has low self esteem!!! Not her fault if she has low self esteem!”

KFP also clinging to the forced egg joke in order to save face. One KFP even going as far as buying ads on this site.

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>>4528654
>complains that her genmates beat her to 1mil
>accuses her fans of subbing to her out of pity
>blames YouTube for her rate of growth

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>>4547912
So.... you weren't able to list any positive Kiara traits, just list stuff about her genmates?

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>>4528654
She knows about the discord server that talked about using bots to subscribe to her.

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>>4528654
I wouldn't really call that complaining. She is concerned, and rightfully so, that she isn't a liked or good content creator. She puts a lot of effort into what she does, but a lot of what she does is taken from what JP has done or is a mimic of JP like her laugh, and hyper spastic nature. And thats all she talks about.

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>>4528654
>literally almost finished neck and neck with Ina
>indirectly saying she'd be happier if she got to 1mil before Ina
>No fucks given to less successful senpais who may see her saying this
Every time. EVERY TIME I think I'm out, she drags me back in.
It's not even the fact that she thinks the things she does. It's normal to do think those things. It's the fact that she says it out loud live on stream.

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>>4549881
every streamer numberfags retard.

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>>4552177
Flare collab when?

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>>4531920
Its because she german. No german person is ever happy, they could win money and still be unhappy cuz he has to pay taxes.

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>>4552283
>Gura literally turns off her numbers during her streams and avoids talking about them at every possible opportunity

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>>4528654
I don't get it, she's literally right, they WERE pity subs. Are people really having a meltdown over her saying the truth?

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>Fire Emblem
Being fair, 3H is probably the less streamer friendly FE game since you have to spend so much time in the monastery doing fuck all, plenty of FE-focused youtubers avoid that game for that reason. Any other FE game could have been better since you get into action quicker and death reels are usually what makes FE streams fun.
So she's kind of right saying that her selection of games slowed her down. I mean it's nice that she stuck to her guns and just didn't play STREAMER BAIT GAME #5686 but it still is understandable that she feels down.

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>>4528654
Shes absolutely right they are pity subs and if she really didn't want them to be then she shouldn't have thrown sub begging pity parties, or as she calls them "endurance streams", every few weeks.

As a cute friend much wiser than kiara once said "It's very sad to compare" kiara should be happy with the fanbase she has and focus on pleasing them after all they are quite loyal and reliable paypigs even going so far as to make multiple, maybe even dozens of sock accounts to get her to 1m. Ironically if kiara wasn't so neurotic and insecure people would probaly like her more or at the very least hate her less.

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>>4552283
No they don't. There is a difference between acknowledging sub goals and numberfagging. Numberfagging is an obsession with numbers to the point where it is noticeable.
Look at Ina, she just briefly acknowledges her milestones and doesn't make a big deal out of them. All of the other ENs don't obsess over numbers the way that kiara does. If you want an example, just look at the video in the OP. There is no such video you can find for any other member that obsesses over subs that hard.
Numberfagging in hololive is especially disrespectful as all the holos are a team that works together. It is disrespectful for Kiara to wine about not getting 1m subs in under a year when the JPs who put years of dedication into their work haven't gotten 1m or they took a few years to actually reach the milestone.

Not to mention, "every streamer" shouldn't be the bar for vtubers. Western twitch streamers are garbage people making garbage entertainment. Hololive should be held to a much higher standard than "other streamers"

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>>4555365

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>>4534469
And guess what was clipped by several channels when it should have been kept to either a Discord cry session or a Member stream? Kiara wants attention and will never learn.

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>>4552580
Why Flare, anon?

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>why yes, I do make a new Kiara anti thread every hour, how could you tell?

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>>4556481
by your weight

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>>4556541
He's a big guy.

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>>4534469
>12 hours telling lies
>5 minutes telling the truth.

Sometimes clippers don't remove context - sometimes they just provide framing.

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>>4559435
dont ever shitpost with gw again, faggot

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>>4548945
Now you're talking, EN was the 1st to cross a million, 2 million, and soon to be 3 million.
EN is also the only gen to have all it's members with over a million subs.
They need to make that well known.

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>>4549881

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>>4551682
My point was that people can like her for reasons other than art/music/singing/something unique, and that those other reasons are subjective. Why do people watch Ame/Mori/Ina gaming streams? Your answer to that should hint at why people like Kiara. It could be her energy, openness, talkativeness, her style of comedy, her choice of games, her in-jokes. Her acceptance of criticism is refreshing as well, it’s just that she doesn’t know how to act on it properly (for example she actually agreed with the person who said she was self-translating too much during debut). It could even be small things that appeal to people like her accent and way of pronouncing things. For example, I find Veibae’s accent really attractive. Though I can’t bring myself to actually watch her for other reasons.

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>>4552008
This. People say she doesn’t have any standout talents or appeal, and then are shocked when Kiara indirectly agrees with them. She either needs to change her mindset or her approach to streaming/entertainment

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wasn't this thread on page 10? what the fuck? is there someone actually making sure it doesn't die?

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>>4564733
It's ok, I couldn't think of anything eithier.

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>>4559435
There’s a reason why the term “mixed feelings” exists

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>>4528654
I'd feel bad too if I was actively working towards it and my competition was someone who focuses more on her day job

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>>4535772
I hate it

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>>4532698
But how is she is gonna suck my big cock?

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>>4552681
Looks like someone is gonna be ashamed after they hit the 3 Mil sub mark

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>>4552008
I honestly don't mind her content and her effort is commendable. It's just this kind of attitude of complaining, concernfagging, and now trying to do collab with a fucking vwhores sjw of all people makes it really hard to sympathizes to her.

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>>4533718
Fucking KEK!
I love when people /here/ uses their imagination and take the "rent free" to another whole level in Kiara anti threads
Thanks anon!

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>>4535662
This.

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>>4528654
I get where she's coming from. She worked so hard only to lose to someone with a sloth for a spirit animal.

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>>4539792
Kek!

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>>4547912
>>4564733
Based.
I must kneel now.

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>>4562506
Do (you) think Gen 2 will be as good as Gen 1?
I just want to read an opinion, thats it.

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>>4566580
Quality wise? Maybe.
They will likely not be as popular as Gen 1 though, the circumstances aren't there anymore.

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>>4565562
If we’re talking about positive personality traits/skills then we have: Outgoing nature, multilingual skills (Holotalk). Commitment (finishes games that she’s passionate about regardless of popularity). Lack of greed (we have evidence that she is still frugal/a careful spender. She also told her chat that they shouldn’t feel the need to one-up Ina’s Times Square display, etc). Now, if you are asking for positive traits specific to entertainment then those were mentioned previously

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>>4566773
But I’ll also add that I’m not surprised that she is in last place. Her selling points exist but they aren’t as strong as her genmates’. I just think her confession here doesn’t make her a bad or malicious person. I wish she didn’t feel that way, and I hope she finds contentment or a better approach for reaching her goals

[Anonymous No.]

She's actually just afraid of gen 2 killing her fanbase

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>>4565842
I think we're all trying to leave Mori out of this.

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>>4528654
Imagine complaining about having 1 million subs jesus fucking christ what a bitch

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>>4566369
Apparently the one who has the sloth for a spirit animal is more captivating than the person who has a smelly god with diarrhea for a spirit animal

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>>4567535
meant to write dog* holy shit

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>>4567558
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

ungrateful bitch

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>>4566773
>we have evidence that she is still frugal/a careful spender

Like spending almost 3,000 euros on a laptop to stream while traveling during a pandemic when you can't travel?

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the only thing more ugly than Kiara's face is her character

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>>4566745
That's a really clever answer.
Thank you anon!

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imagine the smell if you gathered everyone in this thread

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>>4556481
i read it in his voice

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>>4567840
Didn’t Kiara literally travel during her trip with Callie? She’s not in Japan anymore but it’s not implausible that she’ll be traveling away from her place from time to time. And the lockdowns will ease up eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>second most EN super chat donations
>only behind Calli and is even ahead of Gura

Bitch, why you complainin'??

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>>4568225
Probably like sulfur

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>>4567840
>streaming with a laptop
and now who will she blame when the stream goes to shit AGAIN?
she will never learn

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>>4528654
She still wouldn't be happy if she wasn't the last member to reach million on the other hand ina would be the same happy bundle of joy if she was the last

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>>4552661
When those taxes go towards reparations to a people who have bitched and complained and deteriorated the quality of everything you'd be pissed too. In fact, if you're American, you'll know the feeling a year or two down the line.

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>>4528654
As far as i know no.
And it's why i dropped her

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>>4531821
JP streamers talk about their numbers every now and then, its nothing unheard of. It just doesn't get clipped, so EOPs never see that kinda stuff.

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>>4539831
Not my oshi or myself.
Not everyone is a c*ck or a c*ck enabler like you

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>>4564733
>Hasn't actually answered the question on her positives but went on a long cope rant
Why are kfp so obvious to spot?

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>>4555365
Destroyed that insecure kfp, well done

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>>4559435
Good post

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>>4566773
>still hasnt answered the question on her positive traits
kek

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>>4565936
KUYASHII

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>>4555365
Should I make a clip of Mori knowing exactly how many viewers Kiara reached during her outfit reveal? Mori was knowledgable abot someone else's metrics. Maybe then you'll see it, since streams aren't your thing. What about Watame or Noel for example being insecure about numbers? Or are you aware of holos being numberfags, but you leave it all out since it doesn't fit your headcanon?

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If you want Kiara's selling point: Kiara is literally the one of HoloEN who can fluently collab with both EN and JP. The other would be Coco from HoloJP.
Also, whenever there is a big JP event going on (e.g. Bloom, 1st gen anniv) and you want a translation of the girls' conversations, Kiara serves as the live translator.

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>>4552177
Just turn off your pc and walk away anon, this isn’t healthy

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>>4567840
>alienware
oh no no no

>>4571035
timestamps or it didn't happen

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>>4571468
Could say the same to you, kfp