/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Does holo not have the same ammount of "backstage drama" as Niji or do they just hide it better?

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>>45117669
more streamers = more drama
hololive has no streamers
therefore less drama

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Mumin

[Anonymous No.]

The acceleration philosophy inherently encourages increased competition between the talents. Cover's approach, for better and for worse, lets the talents stretch out their wings and make use of the opportunity more comfortably, resulting in less tension with both management and fellow talents.

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For better or worse, Cover sometimes clamps down hard on their talents hard whenever they feel shit is going awry. If some drama does happen backstage, usually it’s the hands of some nefarious management figurehead on stream, and not the talents throwing each other under the bus publicly to the degree NijiEN did.
And more streamers in NijiEN also results in more conflicting personalities. Not everyone will get along.

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>>45117669
Its due to the clique culture that they inherited from nijijp

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>>45117669
Moom thread

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>>45117669
Mostly hide it better. Which is something called professionalism, something that NijiEN never have

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This is now a moom thread

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>>45117669
Hololive isn’t the outlier, Niji is. You don’t see other corpos having a yab every waking second either, not even Vshojo.

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>>45117761
By that logic niji would have like 3x as much drama as hololive, and hololive Jp would have just as much drama as niji EN since they have a similar amount of talents, niji talents are just crappy people

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>>45117669
Matsuri had a huge fight with Luna and no one knew about it until the former confessed about it during HoloTalk. Professionalism + common decency is a potent combination.

niji lacks both.

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>>45117824
I'd like to travel to her mumin valley

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>>45118134
This is a big part of it. A lot of Niji's problems wouldn't exist without the awful cliques they have. But the way hololive lets their new hires stay as the newest generation for a long time allows them to integrate into the "clique". They're all one big cohesive group and don't form factions against eachother. Meanwhile Niji hires like a man in the desert chugs water which results in factions and backstabbing

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>>45117669
Most Twitch circles take years to have as much drama as NijiEN

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>>45120690
JP does have drama you're just an eop so you don't hear about it. Same goes for dramatubers. Literally go on some of the Japanese sites and the Japanese sisters gossip like we do about shit that doesn't actually matter.

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>>45121085
You're comparing apples and oranges. Niji drama is actual real shit, not just rrats invented by schizos on the internet

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>>45117669
>>45117824
>>45120088
>>45120533
Moom cute
I will now leave this thread.

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>>45121228
It's a shame she's dying

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>>45121374
NOOO

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>>45117669
Probably a combination of more professional streamers and managers, less streamers and way less streamed hours

Harder for 10 chuubas streaming 40h months to yab than 30 chuubas streaming 80h a month

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Hololive girls are mostly wallflowers.
>Amelia- will let people treat her like shit up until she hits a breaking point
>Gura- acts like a piece of shit "because she's autistic" (not really) but will just ghost more relentlessly than a middle aged HR lady if she can
>Ina- will tell you she's going on break but will keep everyone updated. Will not keep them updated.
>Kronii- randomly keeps disappearing, often turns out something weird happened like surgery
>Kiara- loud, aggressive, in everyone's faces all the time, tried to be dramatic but her timezone contains her to ID
>Mori- aggressive but not as loud or in your face as Kiara, the source of most drama
>Mumei- avoidant, will meekly defer to anyone she perceives as stronger
>Fauna- seems like a pushover but the whole "religiously vegan even thoug hshe claims otherwise" think seems to indicate she is stronger willed and will pick fights while pretending to not be fighting "that kind of person"
>Bae, IRyS- weakwilled, will allow themselves to be pushed over, mating press

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>>45121769
Damn straight, sister

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IM GOING TO COOM IN THE MOOM

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>>45121918
DO NOT

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>>45117669
>Nijisanji
Filled with normalfags
>Hololive
Filled with autists

Q.E.D

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>>45117669
They hide it better.
Occasionaly some leak through

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>>45121918
come on man, we all need to share that Moom.

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now we are fucking moomin

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>>45117669
There is, but probably to a lesser extent. Hololive talents are more professional and generally higher quality because they're vetted better, Niji just pumps people out in droves

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>>45118365
No one in Niji threw anyone under a bus. They threw themselves under the bus, then others saw that and reacted.

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>>45121769
>Kronii- randomly keeps disappearing, often turns out something weird happened like surgery
She announces these well ahead of time
>>Ina- will tell you she's going on break but will keep everyone updated. Will not keep them updated.
She... did though?

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A little of column A, a little of column B. The lower number of talents means less chances for there to be incompatible personalities in the first place, and in the event that there are, they have a far greater talent:manager ratio. Holos start with a shared manager with each new generation and usually get their own after a few months, whereas Nijis are stuck with a manager who's trying to juggle at least 5 other talents forever unless they end up in the very top level in terms of viewers and revenue. More managers juggling fewer talents means they can more quickly and effectively resolve disputes and, if necessary, isolate talents from each other. Hololive/stars managers also handle more of the side tasks such as organiziing events and promoting streams. By comparison, Nijisanji talents are practically indie, handling far more of their workload on their own, making the job more stressful, leading to irritable talents who are more likely to get into fights and their managers are unwilling or unable to mitigate the issues. On the EN side this is particularly bad, with the managers being particularly incompetent/absent. Additionally the EN side has a much lower barrier to entry due to no VTA, so every new hire has far less vetting. Meanwhile Hololive/stars EN appears to be run much more like its JP counterpart than over in Nijisanji. There are certainly some issues going on in the background, and a quick skim of /vt/ will provide many people's speculations thereof, but their leashes are pretty short and you rarely hear about it directly.

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>>45117669
They all slapped each other in front of yagoo, I guess that counts as drama

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>>45123779
What's VTA mean

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>>45117669
Cover is much better at hiding their drama. They got a little petty with how they fired Rushia and the events with Sana in the months before her graduation were suspicious but they usually keep a lid on the rumors. They even convinced most fans that nothing was odd with hololive talents needing to have radio silent breaks for 2 to 3 months.

>>45123753
Ina went radio silent for 2 months with the only communication being a single retweet promoting Marine's concert. Anon there was a reason most of Myth was missing from the Halloween collab and why holoEN didn't have a Christmas collab.

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>>45126476
Anon there was a reason most of Myth was missing from the Halloween collab and why holoEN didn't have a Christmas collab.
Explain in your own words why, and why it was a bad thing.

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>>45121147
>not just rrats invented by schizos on the internet
where the fuck do you think we are?

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>>45121769
Kinda gossip rrat but Fauna is dead on, that bitch is passive aggressive

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>>45127051
Yes anon, I'm saying that nijisanji has problems beyond the ramblings of this board's retards. Is english your second language?

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>>45125830
Virtual talent academy. You literally have to go to school for a year to be a chuuba for nijisanji JP now.

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>>45128140
That definitely puts the screening mechanism in the wrong place for an agency. I guess Niji wants to become a platform or something though.

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>>45128140
A whole damn year? They better be churning out chubas with Pekora's calibre if it takes that long to "train" them.

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>>45128572
I strongly suspect they are not, or we'd have heard.

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>>45121374
>It's a shame she's dying
Shouldn't have vaxxmaxxed.

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>>45126796
Are you asking why it was bad that most of Myth was missing from the Halloween collab? Since their absence sours the mood for both fans and the other talents. Ina forgetting her work phone was a flimsy management excuse and Vesper wasn't the only EN member that got suspended.

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>>45120771
Matsuri also had a huge fight with Haachama. And Fubuki. And Rushia... hmm I'm starting to think there's some common element there

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>>45120953
So is that why Tempus became a soap opera? Skipping the whole "collab ban" in the beginning?

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>>45120771
What, people knew Matsuri fell out with Luna years before Holotalk even existed.

Also this>>45132138 Matsuri is just an unironic menhera.

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>>45129237
But she did, you have to if you go to japan in 2022.

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>>45117824
NEEDS to stop shaving

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>>45132309
They're pretty good at keeping that shit contained.

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>>45120771
What the fuck are you talking about. Everyone knew Matsuri and Luna had a falling out, here the relevant part of the copypasta that was spammed on /jp/ in 2020:
>Find a princess that loves you back
>She calls you when you were depressed after the apex shitshow
>She values and depends on you a lot
>When she gets sick instead of helping her you go back to confess your love to the dick loving girl
>Fall into an endless APEX obsession
>Your viewers tell you to bring some variety and that they are tired of APEX
>Instead of improving you take a break playing more APEX
>Return from break and keep on doing APEX streams
>Fans actually start leaving you
>Start to argue with antis on twitter to later delete everything
>Meanwhile your dick loving love interest is having the best time with a retarded australian
>Despite all of this you keep on streaming APEX, and it seems everything is going fine
>Then a Shark appears
>The Shark puts a trident in your ass and starts buttfucking you
>You start bleeding viewers
>You end up loving it and ask for Gen 5, Korone and Pekora to buttfuck you the next day
>Do a collab with a gook
>Despite being hyped up and having your fox senpai to help you, you still can't make over 5k
>That collab also brings a curse to this land
>get buttfucked in the next days by a detective with brain damage and an autistic reaper
>Boys and girls from all branches are having fun and teetee
>you're alone, playing APEX
>Eventually you decide to stop being an autist and join the minecraft server
>You can't even recognise some of your kouhais
>All of the girls except EN are playing Minecraft together
>EN girls are having collabs together and interacting with each other and her senpais
>All of the boys are playing among us together
>All of them are having fun
>You're alone, lamenting your existence on twitter and crying yourself to sleep
>There's a Yathzee tournament coming
>It's your chance to make a harem with all past love interests
>Dedicate a stream to practice it, alone.
>Tournament happens, you are doing fine
>Suddenly the princess appears, and she's on a warpath
>She utterly destroys your hopes and dreams
>At some point she feels bad about you and tries to throw, but still manages to buttfuck you
>Your dreams of a harem are dead
>Later because of this and much more, you start having menhera attacks and suicide bait on your alternate twitter account
>The menhera attacks are getting stronger, you end up trying to assault a squid in front of her fans
>FRUS TRA TION IS GETTING BIGGER
>You find your kouhais, a CEO, another menhera and a mom
>You want the mom
>BANG BANG BANG PULL MY MENHERA TRIGGER
>The CEO is trying to befriend you but you, as a good menhera, take this as a personal attack and ignore her
>Mommy turns you down politely
>You keep on screaming and attention whoring until you leave without saying goodbye
>Your fanbase is also full of menheras that pretend to be happy but use alternate accounts to have the menhera attacks
>You look for those accounts and reply to them, making some of them delete their accounts
>As the menhera attacks get worse, your roommate makes a stream
>Despite all the makeup and filters, your roommate can't hide her eyebags, a sign of someone who crearly cries herself to sleep
>In a bold claim, you go and say that if the fans don't like APEX they can go eat shit.
>Shortly after go into a break
>Your stalker, that for some reason you thought it was a good idea to make a mod in your channel, thinks that's because of your fanbase
>Your fanbase start to attack each other
>You have to come out and admit that a friend died so they stop fighting between each other
>Meanwhile the princess is having her birthday
>You prepared a cover that you promised months ago
>You retweet it SEVEN times
>You send an aka supacha
>She doesn't mention it
>Not a single holo acknowledges the video
>Have a menhera attack on your roommate account
>Your fans start pestering the princess because of your own stupidity
>Have to make an apology and explanation on your roommate account
>The princess finally acknowledges you
>But to this day she didn't like your video

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>>45117669
NijiEN is full of zoomers who've never had a job in their lives and think this was just a fun gimmick they can use for money/noombas.

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>>45121147
Not really. Shit the other day someone made a catalog thread about something that one of them said and it took over 200 replies for someone to point out that she didn't actually say anything the op claimed.
They did it again last night with a fake membership post from an id member.

Half of the shit that happens here literally amounts to
>OMG sis did you hear what she said?
And then the catalog shouting about it for the next three days. It doesn't even matter if the person didn't say it as weve seen twice now in under a week

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>>45132665
Yeah the entire zaion situation was faked, you got me. Probably a hololive psyop

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>>45132665
I was in the ID one and mostly people were just cogitating about the current state of ID and QRD-ing some history.

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>>45132736
You mean a talent was fired after less than two months of streaming and almost everybody from redditors, dramatubers, twitterfags and even former members agreed that she wasn't fit for a corporation and moved on with their lives but the catalog became obsessed with someone they never even watched making 30+ bait threads in a week?

Yes. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

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>>45132745
Yeah but on the same hand they started the discussion over a faked post. Nobody even bothered to check if the post was real and it wasn't even 30 replies in when people started posting shit that was completely made up.
This board is no different from the JP counterpart that just randomly makes shit up about whatever person they feel like deserves it that day.

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>>45131955
Hey schizo jackass: normal people would rather have their performers healthy than forced to entertain. Nearly half of Myth were on health breaks at the time. That is okay.

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>>45132414
speak normal or I won't read this

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>>45132665
Archduke Franz Ferdinand.

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>>45134078
It's fine if they need to take a break
The problem is they still haven't recovered. Myth is a tiny shadow of what it once was and around that time is when it nosedived off a cliff

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>>45134316
Who, and what, EXACTLY, are you mad about?

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Holo talents are actually busy doing things

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>>45135956
Then why is holoEN considered the laziest vtubing branch in history?

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>>45136879
By whom? You and your mom?

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>>45137257
Wao. Great post anon. How long did that one take you

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>>45136879
By fucking schizos on 4chan are you retarded or something?

Barely anyone aside from Niggers from here call them lazy. Because they have a Brain and are told time and time again that Hololive is more than streaming. IF you can't accept that, it is your own fault and continue believing that everyone of them is pregnant or whatever the next rrat is. Go ahead say they are lazy to anyone outside of 4chan and you will get treated like the brainless idiot that you are

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>>45137709
You turbonigger, you can't defend literally not streaming for weeks and months on end. Kys

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>>45123753
>She announces these well ahead of time
Kronii's gotten a little better, but there were times where she just went totally radio silent and didn't even post a tweet or youtube message to say what happened.