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it's actually starting to bother me

>> No.45048206

nijiCN has been courting the twitter crowd for a while

>> No.45048264

>>45048133
Niji staff with sub-standard wages.

>> No.45048271

>>45048206
Twitterfags are far from normalfag behavior >>45044216

>> No.45048329

I'm way more bothered by /pol/fags making this board their new home. And jannies somehow accepting them

>> No.45048422

I blame EN branches and their community which don't filter and gatekeep
I still remember days when JP Nijisisters were actually proud of gatekeeping twitterfags and trannies

>> No.45048615

>>45048329
Being retarded isn't against site or board rules.

>> No.45048730

>>45048133
You're on the normalfag board, retard. Anime is mainstream and has been for years.

>> No.45048744

>>45048422
>normiesanji
>gatekeeping
good jork

>> No.45048747

Pcg, mostly

>> No.45048774

>>45048329
Jannies far too busy squashing things like /become/ to do their job.

>>45048615
It's help increase board quality if it was

>> No.45048780

SEA facebook pages. They should really just rangeban all of SEA.

>> No.45048829

>>45048744
Nijisanji back in /jp/ were actually respectable bunch with a spine

>> No.45048834

>>45048422
Realistically what could NijiEN have done to gatekeep their community? The Luxiem sisters came flooding in and severely outnumber NijiEN's existing community so they've gotten completely displaced. There's nothing they could have done. Even their threads went to shit with their IP tripling overnight from teenage menheras and have remained hostile to the female talents till this day. The only voices of reason or anybody who is watch the females are called "holobronies" and bullied out of the threads. They lost with no chance of fighting.

>> No.45048870

>>45048133
You should have asked this question last year when they descended to troll kronii's unicorns. It's too late now.

>> No.45048934

>>45048133
You know exactly where.

>> No.45049371

>>45048133
All explained here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTasa2arVjw

>> No.45049437

>>45048744
nijiEN fanbase has successfully gatekept me from ever watching a single one of their streams though

>> No.45049768

>>45048133
Every time you give in to Twitterfaggotry you let them in?
Everytime vtubing standards are 'casualized' you let them in.

Avoiding lolis and shotas
Saying vtubing without kayfabe is real vtubing or dismissing immersion altogether.
Letting Twitter dictate what games you can and cant play.
Getting involved with Social/Gender Politics

>> No.45049972

>>45048329
What do you mean retard-chan?
this is not relevant to the thread
>>45048780
>SEA
they are the biggest weebs you will ever see
the problem is the americjuks woketivists that barely know what anime is and watch it because its trendy

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>>45049371
I love this menhera cat snow angel leopard

>> No.45051911

>>45049972
The thread is stupid to begin with since normalfags are nothing new. All of Myth except arguably Ina brought them with their debuts and the less said about NijiEN, the better. The big change in this past year is that the board is used less and less to discuss vtubers, and more and more to discuss 4channel culture

>> No.45052824

Unironically Pippa. Pippa basically invited /pol/tards to the hobby so now we get to deal with the repercussions of it. People can blame myth or NijiEn but honestly it wasn't until Pippa continually pandered to kiwifarms and kept talking about ex GG people and shit that normalfags started invading the hobby. You look at her chat and it's not filled with people who are even into anime, it's filled with the same people who after Pippa is over, go on to watch shit like Pokimane and asmongold.
This isn't even a conspiracy at this point it's just facts. Pippa is unironically one of the worst things that happened to vtubing in the history of vtubing

>> No.45052906

>>45052824
pippa is just one of several vectors of mainstream normalfags coming in. The nijisisters are a completely unrelated thing to pippa. Same with the SEA and discord kids formed around holoEN/ID, or the vshojo twitchfags.

>> No.45053041

>>45048133
Kiryu Coco and HoloEN brought in redditors.
VShojo brought in Twitchfags.
NijiEN brought in Twitter.

>> No.45053079

>>45048133
It all started when a certain ca- I mean fox started appearing in everyone's recommendations.

>> No.45053081
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>>45052824
YWNBAW

>> No.45053105

>>45049371
>a leech

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>>45052824
>t.

>> No.45053275

>>45048133
They have been shitting up the hobby ever since it hit the mainstream

>> No.45053339

>>45052906
Except I wouldn't really call nijisisters normalfags honestly. Not in comparison to "le epix 4chinz bazed rabut"
Just look at the responses I'm getting for bringing up how her normie /pol/tier audience are responsible for the inflation of normies and /pol/ fags. They just further prove my point. Pippa really is to blame

>> No.45053399

>>45052824
kys henri

>> No.45053418

>>45048133
You can thank NijiEN for that

>> No.45053446

>>45052824
Henri? Is that you?

>> No.45053483

>>45053339
I think you're giving Pippa waaaay too much credit for vtuber who has been relatively small until recently. Vox and the rest of the NijiEN males brought in magnitudes more normies than Pippa ever did. Just looking at their subcounts or seeing how NijiEN changed after Luxiem is enough to see that.

>> No.45053492

>>45048133
the male collabs meltdown was when they really came in in droves, especially the femcels who make it obvious they have zero understanding of the male psyche
basically whenever theres some controversy and clueless normalfags from reddit and twitter start tooting their npc takes due to zero understanding of the culture they want to weigh in on (which is obvious from the fact that they're EoPs

>> No.45053666

>>45048329
>>45052824
>>45053339
/pol/tards have always been here, dumbass. If you think this is new you then haven't been paying attention at all.

>> No.45053776

>>45052824
It only seems like that because she cannibalized all the scattered "right wing with an anime pfp" people that were scattered across other vtubers.

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>>45048329
>oh no, people in 'X' hobby are figuring out they should gatekeep, better call them /pol/!

>> No.45053830

>>45048271
>ahmed-kun
lmao

>> No.45053851

>>45053483
Honestly you say that but Pippa beats most of Nijien in both superchats and view counts. She rivals some of the gens after luxiem even the males in them. I'm giving her the exact credit she deserves. She is largely responsible for the sudden influx of /pol/tards and welcoming them into the community
>>45053666
And maybe so but it certainly seems like they're more welcomed than they were before.
>>45053776
In part maybe it's because of this. They're all united under a common banner now so they think this hobby is for them

>> No.45053916

>>45048133
Phase connect and their idea that even /pol/niggers should be welcomed as long as they tune in

>> No.45053920

>>45048133
Wizard game drama. Your hobby is now being flooded by culture warriors. Are you having fun?

>> No.45053938

>>45053666
polfags are obnoxious retards if they turn chuuba shit into politics, since chuubafags only care about chuubas
but its really just a matter of interests aligning, for example they'll "side" with them if twitter freaks start attacking their chuubas

>> No.45053939

>>45048774
why did they squash down /become/? it was just a congregation of lamys, no big deal

>> No.45053993

>>45053851
>so they think this hobby is for them
Its almost like you aren't an arbiter of culture and people are allowed to like things regardless of affiliation.

>> No.45054091

>>45049371
funny accent troll

>> No.45054360

>>45053851
>muh super chats
>muh if you compare her ccv to other losers
Nobody cares retard. She is just one of many low 4views.

>> No.45054639

>>45053939
"Become Lamy" threads were poorly disguised tranny bullshit ERP.

>> No.45054659

>>45054360
I'm just saying that she's rising up and has been for the past year by appealing to /pol/tards and right-wing grifters. It reminds me a lot of the early GG era when /pol/tards became an insufferable part of /v/ because /v/ allowed people like Milo to invade the hobby despite him never touching a controller in his life.
I can see the flood on the horizon and if you continue to ignore it, history will repeat itself.

>> No.45054762

>>45048774
and yet they won't extinguish the rest of the fucking generals

>> No.45054819

>>45048133
You can thank HoloEN for that

>> No.45054846

>>45054659
have you seen a single one of her streams? Can you point out how she panders to right wing pol types?

>> No.45054852

>>45053939
Same reason they killed /ag/ and /meat/. No fun allowed.

>> No.45054874

>>45048329
YWNBAW

>> No.45054964

>>45054659
You're deluded. IBS fags that flooded with her initial popularity explosion have already been deal with and the rest mostly keeps shitting up known places or keep to themselves. Compared to that, the idiot who kept spamming the catalog with her was mentally unstable holofag.

>> No.45054975

>>45054639
Hahaha This nigga is dumber than most here.

>> No.45055054

>>45054659
>/pol/tards and right-wing grifters
They're reactionaries. If they're being annoying its because you didn't keep your discord kittens leashed tight enough.

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>>45048329
Anon, what if I told you the jannies ARE the /pol/tards.

>> No.45055369

>>45054846
>Spent months sucking the dick of a prominent right wing gamer gate figure
>Spent months talking about the "wonders" of kiwifarms and the people who own
>Spent months pandering to 4chan (specifically /pol/tards)
>Joked about shit like "I can't breathe"
Shit man I'm not super left leaning myself and I'm fully aware that she isn't right wing herself but to deny that her chat is full of the same people who were sucking off Milo cuz he was someone "different" who appealed to their beliefs, is just idiotic.

>> No.45055466

>>45053938
I'm only here for the politics. I don't even watch vtubers.

>> No.45055522

>>45054659
Infinite growth is a meme. Every audience is limited, the number of people that are into far right politics but are also into watching an anime chick do bad vtuber content is naturally fairly limited. If you have ever browsed /pol/ you should know that they cannot agree on anything and are constantly accusing each other of being feds/jews/shills/reptilians, so whatever brand of right wing politics she adheres to is going to further limit her potential audience. I think Pippa's ceiling is around 5k ccv, she might get more during special streams but I seriously doubt she is ever going to get close to an average 5view ccv.

>> No.45055617

>>45050167
same
>>45052824
get help

>> No.45055808

>>45055522
To be fair though there's not an en chuuba who gets 5 digit viewer counts anymore with the exception of gura and that's only because she streams so rarely that not getting to see her makes people all tune in at once. 5k would rival members of myth

>> No.45055883

>>45048133
>starting
They probably took the same path as you if it's only starting to bother you. It has been from the creation of this damn board you all disgust me

>> No.45055906

Total Normie Death

>> No.45055930

>>45055522
You're really overselling this polshit meme.

>> No.45056893

>>45055930
Nah as someone who was here during the GG era. You can never overstate the negative impact /Pol/fags have on a hobby.
Look at the state of /v/ every popular thread on there is filled with the same shit /pol/fags spend all day on their board yelling about and the entire reason it got that way was because /v/ invited /pol/tards in.
They're like termites that seep in through the woodwork and start slowly devouring the house around you.

>> No.45057198

>>45048133
They've been around for years, retard. You think chuubas get to 7-digit subscriber counts with an audience full of Mongolian basket weavers? How many of >us do you even think there are?

>> No.45057434

>>45048615
Just to point out:
>3. You will not post any of the following outside of /b/:
>a. Troll posts
>6. The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.
/pol/tards are allowed to be retarded but they're still expected to be on topic and not troll.

>> No.45057583

>>45048870
Not trolled, mocked. They deserved it, and all evidence is that they still haven't learned their fucking lesson.

>> No.45057611

>>45055522
I would say the appeal of the right-wing grift is that it is a very stable grift that is easy to pull off because most right-wing politics is generally midwit tier stuff. Basically smart enough to know what's wrong with the world but go through the hoops to blame things on whatever targets peter thiel says is bad while he rakes in cash from collapsed banks.

>> No.45057850

>>45052824
NEET-chama, people who know about the farms and can remember "ex GG people" are not even remotely normal.

>> No.45057985

>>45057198
Well 4chan on average gets 900k posts per day. How many people are posting constantly? How many are just saying one thing at one day? /vt/ is a popular board by this site's standards though.

>> No.45058764

>>45057850
They're /pol/tards all the same who are new to the hobby and pollute it with their stench

>> No.45058944

>>45052824
>>45052906
I understand that Pippa is doing pretty well for a small corpo chuuba, but you idiots are a bit delusional with how much influence you think she has.

>>45053339
Maybe you are just retarded for trying to force your boogeyman into normalfags raging at random loli vtubers?

>> No.45059022

>>45057985
Yeah, I'm sure the people in boards like /gif/ are massive vtuber fans. Good thinking that you use them to pad your numbers.

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>>45053339
>Except I wouldn't really call nijisisters normalfags honestly
Your speech rights have been taken away from you nijiniggers
You think that chuds are normies but not these 12 year old theythems?
you must have been lobotomized to utter retardation before

>> No.45059532

>>45052824
>Pippa invited /pol/ to the hobby!
No, they were always here, posting some Kizuna hitler memes or Pekora stuff. /pol/ fags mostly keep to themselves if their hobbies are not being subverted.
I dislike right wing identity politics just as much as its counterpart but they dont shove their shit in my face outside of their containment zone at least.

>> No.45059780

Would love to know when the op started coming on this site

>> No.45059862

>>45052824
Wow someone actually said something that makes sense in this site.

>> No.45060020

>>45058944
Or maybe I've just seen her audience and know for myself the type of people in it. It's /pol/tards and people who are looking for someone "different" who still appeals to them. Like I've said numerous times. She's very comparable to Milo except she doesn't really believe what she preaches.

>> No.45060026

NijiEN and holostars EN brought in the worst twitter and bilibili psychos, if they arent gatekept out they will ruin everything

>> No.45060092

>>45059054
Angry I called your chuubas fanbase out for being the termites of vtubing, ruining the foundations with no regards for anything but themselves?
It's true and you'd know it if you actually cared about vtubing

>> No.45060241

>>45059532
Sure. But the problem is that they found a common chuuba to unite under and started to feel welcomed into the community because she welcomed them. They're everything that's wrong with every hobby, I keep saying that Pippa is unironically the GamerGate chuuba and will ruin the hobby before too long because it'll become so infested with /pol/tards it'll burn others out. It happened with gaming and it'll happen again. Just as the cuckoo removes the chicks from the nest /pol/tards do not stop until they are the only thing that's left.

>> No.45060304

>>45060026
seems its too late. idk since when niji en has become like a tumblr circlejerk but once this type of group takes a place over, it will never recover. history already proved it. and holostar en looks like an idol group for autistic kpop nigger lover fujoshits. the same tumblr garbage. too late as well.

>> No.45060536

>>45056893
>Look at the state of /v/
Looks pretty normal to me. Theres less than a handful threads on the catalog with /pol/ or /pol/ trolling.
Maybe you should take your meds.

>> No.45061158

>>45049371
>Normies are invading us
>I watch Pippa btw

>> No.45061292

>>45048329
>Why aren't jannies banning my political opponents?
>Anyways Pikamee deserved it for not agreeing with my politics
>God I can't spout my bullshit beliefs unopposed like on twitter
It's time to go back.

>> No.45061420

>>45048133
Grifter normalfag bitches that got into vtubing complaining about normalfags.
Love to see it.

>> No.45061499

>>45048329
you know i was violently against them for a while with their dogshit takes but at least the jannies are suffering

>> No.45062162

>>45049371
kick vee

>> No.45062343

>>45060536
It's not in the thread ops ever it's in the threads themselves. If you filter the word "tranny" you'll lose half of any thread with over 100 posts in it

>> No.45062758

>>45062343
I just tried it in a bunch of bait threads it should be applicable.
Take your meds.

>> No.45063198

>>45048133
Twitter and reddit, retards keep posting screen shots of threads there

>> No.45063598 [DELETED] 

>>45062758
Well then maybe things are finally healing for a bit or jannies have started cracking down a bit more on the rampant /pol/shit that invaded every thread. Just a week ago each thread I was in was bitching about black people and queers and trannies

>> No.45064214

I like seeing people who think this is /jp/ getting put in their place by /pol/ chads. They also keep the twitter scum out.

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>>45048329
Go back to >>>/lgbt/
You’re not welcome here anymore

>> No.45064623

>>45048329
/pol/ comes out of the woodwork when normalfag LBTGQUAP fags come out, such as the Nijisanji fanbase.

>> No.45064697

Those who blame Pippa for any of this don't actually watch Pippa or know anything about her. They're just mindlessly antiing her for their own ends, possibly even as a kind of gaslighting. Troons hate her. Pippa has consistently and perpetually come out in support of vtubing as a whole, all chuubas who were attacked by the leftist hate mob and has in no uncertain terms placed herself decidedly in the "I don't care camp." She doesn't give a damn about politics and neither should we.

The influx of shit into vtubing primarily came about through drama channels and twitter. Specifically due to Hogwarts, meaning the troons and other similar breeds who like all SJW's always seek to make entertainment into their own propaganda. Which brings me to the following rrat - it is entirely possible Western vtubing is being targeted as a whole by the US legacy media and youtube (Google), since nobody gives a damn about that crap and Western vtubing is the only authentic Western entertainment currently extant (meaning, without propaganda). Behind every SJW there is big corpo money, behind every /pol/fag there's alphabet agencies. They're the exact same kind of people at their core. There is no mental, spiritual or psychological difference whatsoever between a SJW and a nazi. All differences are merely external, both are poison to themselves and everything they touch. This may be extremely hard for you to grasp, but it's the truth. They all belong to the same type.

We need to gatekeep harder, and in no uncertain terms shut down any and all attacks against vtubing by both sides of the retard spectrum. Politics and the culture war are unwanted in vtubing. More than that, both things are explicitly American, and I am not. The vast majority of fans aren't American and often not even Western. I'm tired of pretending it matters what America wants or engaging in their politics, their culture war bullshit and so on. This is why attacks against vtubers will fail. The audience is truly global, and be it due to SJW/Nazi or US legacy media involvement they'll break their teeth on me, a Balkan Slav, that guy from Brazil, a Malay and a bunch of Taiwanese and Peruvians. We don't give a damn about your bullshit. We're here for the girls.

Weaponized indifference and simply doing are the key to victory. Chuuba's should and must do what they want. Be the loli vtuber, play Hogwarts, do whatever you want. To all attacks simply nod politely and smile and do the equivalent of "I'm not interested in that." You yourself need to decouple from the American mindset. Your fans are your true nation, your home, and your country, and your company is a banner to rally under. We are also your shield and support who will raise you above the crashing waves - with currency and loyalty you MUST show back to US. Outsiders do not matter. We, the fans, should do the same. We are not political and we do not engage in politics. Politics is something other people do. It has no relation to us. Our "nations" are the corpos and indies we love, and their culture is our "politics." You all need to internalize the fact nation states, politics, all that shit - is irrelevant. It is forced upon you and the chuuba. Free association is the new nationhood, your real self-chosen identity.

Death to all politics. The only way forward.

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>>45048329
It’s not ”/pol/fags” coming here, it’s more the fact that people here have taken a dimmer view of the lgbt and especially trannies since the hogwarts legacy incident, which is perfectly understandable if you ask me.

>> No.45065105

>>45048133
Vshojo
Nijisanji
Twitter

>> No.45065186

>>45048329
Are you the same retard that complains about /qa/? /hlgg/ is made worse by your bitching.

>> No.45065271

>>45049371
Why does him saying he watches Pippa make me cringe for a second?

>> No.45065301 [DELETED] 

>>45052824
>>45053339
YWNBAW

>> No.45065304

>>45048133
It's literal teenagers from twitter with they/them pronouns

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Ahem

>> No.45065642

>>45048133
>>45048329
>you can get global banned for mentioning something about being a single mother, which is not even anywhere being """doxxing"""
I mean, this whole board is normafaggotry central with mods enforcing it. I don't know what you all expected.

>> No.45065730

>>45048133
The problem isn't the normalfags but the moralfags.

>> No.45065745

>>45064697
I've watched her, I don't hate her as a person .
I hate the audience that she cultivated by trying to appeal to the right wing /Pol/fags And you cannot deny that she did appeal to these people by literally collabing and praising people constantly who were within the right wing terminally online sphere .
The worst part now is that she doesn't want these people necessarily in her fan base she just wanted their money, but the question is whether or not it will be too late to actually purge these people from her fan base or whether she actually has the guts to do so .
Just saying " don't use me for your political gain" doesn't really work to call off the people who are already in her fan base and looking for more right-wing dog whistles to hear .
And that's the problem with her fan base that she cultivated. She has a bunch of politically motivated people who know nothing about V tubers and do not watch anybody aside from her because they saw somebody who was different than the average person that goes into V tubing and that appealed to them, they then flocked to this person .
I have made the comparison to Milo yiannopoulos several times because the fact that people on here did the same exact thing to him, he was a gay man who was a conservative and they immediately propped him up like the next coming of Christ because the fact that he was a " different " man than anybody else was .
He had never touched to controller in his life but he somehow became the face of a movement that was originally designed to Get some accountability in the field of journalism for video games .
I very much see her becoming the next Milo because the fact that she is cultivated this fan base, the problem is that she doesn't want this fan base she just cultivated them.
So again, I don't hate her and I have watched a few of her clips and streams she's an okay streamer who specializes mainly in reaction content which is something that I'm not interested in personally, but I don't necessarily have vendetta against her, I'm just simply pointing out that there are similarities in the audiences that flock to her and the normie problem that has infested the hobby

>> No.45065852 [DELETED] 

>>45065301
>Mindbroke /pol/fag can't even come up with an original response
I have no desire to chop off my penis, my dislike of the /pol/fags has nothing to do with my personal politics. If I wanted to talk politics I'd go to /pol/ but I don't so I'd rather not have it invade yet another hobby

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>>45048329
There is no /pol/. It's just brown sea niggers from Indonesia and Malaysia.

>> No.45066038

when they say
>I like vtubers but
they mean liking tweets on twitter dot com
please don't interact with retards

>> No.45066082

>>45048329
you will never fit in

>> No.45066227

>>45065852
no you dont understand i have to tell everyone how much i hate [group] and make every single space on the internet about politics, shitting all over the place as i go

>> No.45066427

>>45065852
>ITS THE /pol/ THEY ARE THE ONES SHITTING ALL HOBBIES UP
The polfags are reactionary contrarians, most of them only start shitting the place when someone else tries to bring politics in first.

>> No.45066485

>>45063598
they were looking for an excuse to shit up the place ever since the stupid wizard game happened, there were 3-4 threads with silvervale every single day, constantly bumped
they were waiting desperately for SOMETHING to happen and they got it with pika and then jannies had to go full auto mode on that day
thankfully they didnt give up after the one day, kept removing shit and things got a lot calmer but there are still stragglers as you can see in this thread

>> No.45066572

>>45065852
>I'd rather not have it invade yet another hobby
Anon, its already in your hobby and it wasn't /pol/ that did it.

>> No.45066808

>>45066227
Exactly. It's annoying as fuck
>>45066427
You say that but they also think everything is a whistle and nod to them. Like I said earlier, you got to /v/ half the time and suddenly you're a tranny faggot because you dared to say you liked something and you get spammed with "YWNBAW!!" shit constantly. I can't even talk about wanting to see girls make out with girls in video games without some /pol/fag trying to tell me it's a conspiracy by the left to make everyone gay and how I'm probably some faggot because of it. Every single fucking post is some 1000iq loophole for them to start bringing politics up at every turn and catering to the sort of crowd that does that by constantly feeding them and acknowledging them and encouraging them at every turn doesn't really change anything.

>> No.45066823

>>45065852
The culture war is everywhere you look.

>> No.45066848

>>45065852
Are these "polfags" in the room right now anon?

>> No.45066862

>>45066485
The bad thing is this shit happens every time that there's any sort of event that they think they can invade .
Like I said, every time that you do anything, they think that some sort of invitation to start bitching about the politics of everything and catering to that crowd just pisses me off because I'm trying to avoid that crowd by watching vtubers.

>> No.45066935

>>45066848
Yes. Did you not see how many people told me I'd never be a woman Because I said that Pippas constant catering towards /pol/fags is annoying and largely responsible for them invading the hobby?

>> No.45066956

>>45066808
>I can't even talk about wanting to see girls make out with girls
>on /v/
Think tumblr is more your speed.

>> No.45066994

>>45048133
Want to know what the worst part is? Most are tiktokers

>> No.45067053

>>45048133
Nijifaggots brought them in and the changes to twitter are making vtubers more visible. Fuck Elon.

>> No.45067077

>>45066808
>the things I want to talk about are retarded
>everyone else is the problem

>> No.45067081

>>45066956
I wasn't talking about on /v/ I was talking about on /here/

>> No.45067117

>>45059780
was here when we still had to share space with jaypee 2whos

>> No.45067133

>>45066935
And how do you know these people are from pol? I don't use pol but even I agree you just sound like a massive faggot.

>> No.45067325

>>45067081
lmao what is your home thread?

>> No.45067458

>>45067077
You're free to say that the things I want to talk about are retarded but there are no way political .
I don't give a fuck about the current state of politics, I want my oshi to stream games that are decent, I want my oshi to have fun while doing so.
What I don't want is my oshis chat to be filled with the same people Pippas is, people who are so blatantly political that they think everything is somehow a wink and nod to them and start screaming about Jewish conspiracies in her chat and about the death of trannies or whatever.
Meanwhile, while Pippa halfheartedly tries to distance herself from this crowd she also welcomed it in by advertising herself on places like kiwifarms, making blatant political jokes about the "new world order" and that black guy. By constantly sucking Jims dick and by even trying to tell her coworkers what a wonderful site kiwifarms is despite kf being responsible for dox talk of vtubers including herself.
The type of people who are invading the hobby and trying to make everything political are the same people who are sending her all their money.

>> No.45067490

I don't care that much on polfags I don't see them trying to force chuuba to become nazi or whatever
what I actually see are wokeshits trying to kill loli and shitting on gachikois, anons against m*me collabs, and that is far more bothersome

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>>45049371
Based.

>> No.45067586

>>45048133
Unironically Elon Musk, the Twitter For You page is literally designed to make people upset and argue to drive up engagement. People end up finding this place too because of that.

>> No.45067643

>>45067458
pippa being kiwifarm vtuber who tries to be ironically "based" shouldn't be news to literally anyone, but I don't see her fans harrasing other vtubers because of wrongthink
no one forces you to watch her

>> No.45067721

>>45067570
My cynical side says she's just doing it for views based on the recent nontriversy, but even if she is I'm ok with this.

>> No.45067774

>>45066935
Anon, you are an annoying twat and deserve to be ridiculed and banned for this off-topic, unhinged shitfest

>> No.45067889

>>45067643
I Don't find it necessarily coincidental that as she has risen by appealing to those types of people, that the more normal fags have started invading the space of our hobbies. While nobody forces me to watch her, It is no secret that her fan base is one of the most normie out there and a lot of them follow her because they believed that her politics were different than your average vtuber.
And that's where my problem lies. These people invade the space of everything, and then they're all like "just don't watch her"
I actively don't, because honestly even without the comments that occasionally lead into political shit, her entire personality is like watching early 2000s humor, edgy .
" Look at me talking about how I'm going to shoot up at Walmart haha aren't I so edgy haha " maybe I'm just too old for it, but somebody grew up with that kind of humor I just kind of grew out of it .
But regardless, those are the types of people that invade the hobby.

>> No.45067945

>>45067774
How's it off topic to say that one person's fan base has been largely responsible for the influx of normies .
Her entire thing is appealing to the normies because the fact that she's not like the other girls, she's edgy .
You can disagree with my opinion all you want but it's not off topic to say that her fan base is largely why the V tubing scene has become so invaded with normies. They think that they're welcome because they're not gate kept

>> No.45067984

>>45066808
Seems to me you are more sick with westoid ID politics as a whole rather than /pol/ which is just a side of the aisle.
Learn Japanese, they have something for everybody, you will be able to discuss Yuri in peace.

>> No.45068039

>>45067889
at least she isn't shitting on vtubing as a whole and idol culture unlike twitter roasties who freak out over loli avatars

>> No.45068045

>>45067889
Normalfags entering the hobby has nothing to do with any of the shit you are blogging about your fucking retard, it's not related, it's not even coincidently tied to it.

Normalfag vtweeters got into the vtubing hobby because of $$$, and they cultivated an audience that calls themselves vtuber fans despite not being into any actual vtubers, but their derivatives.

>> No.45068064

>>45067458
>words words words
The things you want to talk about are retarded and other people watching pink rabbit bothers you because you are retarded.

You are retarded.

>> No.45068116

>>45067945
Because you are annoying and gay and probably suck on hotdogs pretending they are penises, instead of eating them, which wastes food. Because you're an american degenerate crying that your parents didn't love you enough which is true because if they did they'd have beaten the stupid out of you.

>> No.45068144

>>45068045
Normalfags also got introduced into the hobby by people like Pippa who created a space where they felt welcomed to discuss politics and conspiracy theories. /Pol/tards and twittards are two sides of the same coin and she caters to both. Her audience growing in size correlates directly with the influx of normies and /pol/tards whether you wanna admit it or not

>> No.45068185

>>45067945
>How's it off topic to say that one person's fan base has been largely responsible for the influx of normies .
Because normalfags are affecting the industry as a whole you brain dead retard with a hate boner.
We are talking about the twitch indies who became vtubers and have zero idea who any of the corpo's are, they have no idea who kizuna ai is, they think vtubers are from south korea.
These are the normalfags the OP is talking about.

Not anything to do with your unhinged rant.
You need to calm down and realize you were being retarded.

>> No.45068224

>>45068064
>N-no you don't understand it's totally based that a single chuuba has created an audience of normie /pol/tards they should be welcomed into this hobby!

>> No.45068233

oh look
another pippa wannabe pickme whore

>> No.45068237

>>45067945
Unironically the one who needs to be gatekept out is you, you were never part of the hobby and will never fit in here.

>> No.45068240

>>45067945
>this is Pippa's fault
>when VShojo and Nijisanji exist
Ironmouse has done more to pull real actual normies /here/ than anything Pippa has done you mongoloid.

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>>45067984
the only correct and based take
just take JPill anons
it's so much better

>> No.45068281

>>45068144
2000 or so people being introduced to pippa is nothing compared to the 100,000+'s of twitter normalfags who got into luxiem, or the entire network of indie EN's who don't even know vtubing is based from japan and have never even seen anime before.

You were WAYYY off base here and it's embarrassing.

>> No.45068325

>>45068185
Sure, but none of these people are literally anywhere close to the same size as she is .
That's the thing, you can blame all the two view vtweeters out there but they're irrelevant nobodies. When you start looking at the large people who are catering to these people and welcoming them into the hobby without gatekeeping them and even kind of sort of trying to crack down on the blatant /pol/tards in their chats then it starts to become a problem because those people don't just stay contained. They spread out like they have

>> No.45068336

>>45068144
trannychama, poltards arent the ones doxing people and screaming at them all day on twitter so your transparent both sides bullshit isnt going to work

>> No.45068349

>>45067984
This is the way.

>> No.45068363

>>45067889
Anon, half of vshojo, NijiEN and twitch indies did the same thing for lefty politics. Way before Pippa had any pull in the scene.
I dont see you complaining about them shitting up the place?

>> No.45068399

>>45068325
Anon you're just going to get reported for this off-topic political shit if you don't stop

>> No.45068411

>>45068233
just because she said what should be obvious to anyone with a brain doesn't make her "pickme"

>> No.45068448

>>45048133
like right now? reddit is down

>> No.45068458

>>45068281
Most of luxium's audience are SEAsisters who can barely speak English. /#/s could tell you as much. Blaming SEAsisters for an influx of normies when Pippa gets close to the same views and money they do without the SEA audience feels disingenuous honestly.

>> No.45068464

"the reactionaries started it!" is about the level of political understanding we can expect from twittards I guess

>> No.45068490

>>45068233
She actually has the balls to say something unlike pippa.

>> No.45068492

>>45052824
Chaptgpt response

>> No.45068534

>>45068458
chinese fujos have money, the pagpags are just part of their mob on twitter

>> No.45068573

>>45068399
How is it off topic? Like I said, the influx of normies has to do heavily with the influx of normies in Pippa's chat. They're not people who watch vtubers or know shit about them they're /pol/fags and I don't honestly see how that's off topic to say.
Vtubers have had a large crossover with /pol/tards lately and when you have large vtubers who cater to those same people, it's not really off topic to say that she is largely responsible for the hobby becoming filled with more normies

>> No.45068598

>>45063198
This 100%. You can tell who the twitter/redditfags are with every nonchubba related thread, discussion or screencap.

>> No.45068606

>>45068458
Pippa is literally nobody
the problem is Nijisanji EN and Vshoujo
that's literally it
they are the problem, not some small indie "le based" kiwifarms reject

>> No.45068722

>>45052824
I can guarantee there's no overlap between Pippa's audience and Pokimane's.

>> No.45068749

>>45068534
Sure, but so do the people in Pippa's audience .
That's why she's up there with some of the top dogs, if she continues growing at the way that she has she will unironically be at the level of luxium in under a year. And the sad thing is that the audience that she has, are even less aware of shit than the SEAsisters because at least the sisters just talk about how they want vox to molest them and shit like that
Meanwhile you have constant /pol/tards who are just barely spreading their wings to other sites outside of Pippas chat and that's why there's been such an influx of normies.
People can blame vshojo and nijisanji and Reddit all they want but this shit that's been happening is more recent than they are

>> No.45068791

>>45068573
Using this thread to shit on pippa and her fanbase when the OP is about one of her coworkers complaining about people who aren't into vtubers when pippa and her fanbase ARE into vtubers means you are need to take a fucking break my guy. You are wrong, upset and are lashing out worse than the shit you're complaining about.

>> No.45068798

>>45052824
"polfags" are your immune system whether you know it or not, they are like the white and T-cells. You don't have to like them but they keep out something much worse

>> No.45068804

>>45068722
Maybe Pokimane was a stretch but my point still stands that normie fleshcam audiences are the same that watch Pippa because they think of vtubers as cringe and GFE as bad but Pippa isn't like the others

>> No.45068894

stop responding to this retard, pippa and her fanbase talk about vtubers and current news with them non-stop, they aren't normalfags so this whole obsession this anon has with pippa is just him having a meltdown.

>> No.45068935

>/pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/ /pol/

>> No.45068950

>>45068791
And yet none of what you said says anything about me being off topic .
The thing is that her fan base is normies. She cultivates a normie. This normie fan base has been largely responsible for the invasion of normies. And like I said, you can blame other corporations all you want but this is a lot more recent. These corporations have been around for a year or two minimum, aren't responsible for the sudden influx that doesn't add up .
Now, on the other hand, Pippa has only been growing in size and will only continue to do so by catering to the normies .
The poltards she caters to, are largely responsible for ruining every hobby that they're attached to.
It is not off topic to say that, because again, she caters heavily to the "not like the other vtubers" audience who think vtubing is cringe which is why they won't watch her coworkers

>> No.45068966

>>45068894
>current news
That's the problem

>> No.45068967

>>45048834
The whole thing was a debacle. Luxiem went viral and the sisters came in like locusts. They cored out the branch, drove away the bulk of the original fanbase, forced (via management) the girls to hitch their wagons to the huge new numbers… and then they left, leaving Luxiem as low 4views and the branch a smoldering wreckage. Actual human locusts.

Holobronies should count themselves lucky that their pack of faggots was a flop. Like look at the problems they’ve already caused and imagine if they had 100k rabid chinksisters backing them.

>> No.45069033

>>45068966
current news with vtubers, like a new watame song or to watch a collab
you don't watch pippa, keep her name out of your mouth

>> No.45069070

>>45052824
Henri just kys already, your everyday blubbering is fucking pathetic

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>>45048329

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>Pippa!
>Pol!
>Normies!
>Everything I don't like is Pippas pol normies!
>Why does everyone give me shit and call me retarded on every board I visit!
>This is because of pippa and pol!

>> No.45069158

>>45068935
>crtl - f
>pol
Scary, one unhinged guy completely derailed the thread

>> No.45069159

>>45048329
lmao stupid troon, you will never be a woman.

>> No.45069185

>>45069033
Still the problem, relying upon "V tuber news" channels I'm doing constant reactionary content to shit like that, does not exactly bode well for her audience .
They are not there to hear about " V tuber news" they are there to watch the pink rabbit react to shit .
Just like how people weren't actually there to watch her play Hogwarts legacy, they were there to watch her hopefully add fuel to their culture war fire.
Because at the end of the day, normies the same people who watch Pippa, do not care about vtubers they care about Pippa and her only.

>> No.45069244

>>45069185
you are not well.
get off the internet it's bad for you.

>> No.45069255

>>45069123
And yet none of what I said was wrong, her fan base as proven by this thread, Is an incredibly normie fan base is largely responsible for shitting up the board and shitting up everything else.

>> No.45069293

>>45069244
Not an argument. You can deny it all you want but that is the audience she has. They're normalfags who should have been gatekept

>> No.45069298

"normies" are not part of any culture war, on either side. has the word truly lost all meaning?
Imagine thinking a normalfag would be interacting with a niche japan-born anime-adjacent otaku subculture at all.

>> No.45069320

>>45069123
It's a mentally ill man

>> No.45069367

>>45069255
>Implying I like pick me pippa
Everything you've said is wrong, you actually have no idea what you're talking about and are just too fucking dumb to even know why. Go back faggot.

>> No.45069403

>>45069298
normalfags have definitely been becoming twitch 2views, the amount of girls with western art avatars and don't even know what common words like oshi or gachikoi is shows that $$$ is attracting people that have no interest in the roots of the hobby

>> No.45069449

>>45069298
Normalfags participate in all culture wars though. They hate shit like vtubers would love to see it all burn.

>> No.45069456

>>45068804
Unironicaly you should blame Twitch more. That's what is luring normies in far more then one autistic yabbit. People on Twitch see VTubers as an interesting alternative to the usual e-thots. Also making collabs between VTubers and usual streamers and making react videos to their clips is becoming/has become very common on the platform biggest channels

>> No.45069495

>>45069403
I believe you, which is the situation OP is referencing, I'm mostly responding to the discussion being entirely about /pol/ shit. Normalfags are clueless to that, they don't give a fuck. No idea how or why they began infesting this community, but it's definitely not "/pol/'s fault".

>> No.45069508

>>45069367
How is it wrong to point out that her audience is largely made of normalfags who don't watch other vtubers

>> No.45069518

>>45069298
>Imagine thinking a normalfag would be interacting with a niche
Yes they do. Have you been living under a rock? Anime, video game, otakus and Vshojos have become mainstream a long time ago. It's no longer cringe or creepy, it's cool. Which is why we have western girls nowadays pretending to be anime girls on the internet for money.

>> No.45069564

>>45069449
Do terminally online twitter people really count as "normalfag"? That word isn't (or wasn't) the opposite of "based". Normalfags are doing normalfag things in the real world. Twitter trannies and /pol/ are two sides of the same terminally online mentally ill coin.
Even the more terminally ill normalfags are mostly doing retarded tiktok dances or whatever.

>> No.45069569

>>45069495
There's no discussion about politics, it's one guy spamming pol and pippa 80+ times because he has nothing better to do

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>>45048329
>>45052824
>>45053851
>>45054659
>>45056893
>>45060241
>>45065745
>>45066808
>>45067458
>>45067889
>>45068144
>>45068325
>>45068573
>>45068749
>>45068950
The absolute state of this nigger. Literally can't stop crying about muh /pol/

>> No.45069618

>>45069508
Because her audience is largely made up of people that do watch other vtubers.

>> No.45069620

>>45069508
You are not well in the head and are incapable of looking at any situation clearly.
Please get help, you need help.

>> No.45069663

>>45069456
I definitely do blame twitch to a certain degree, but I honestly don't think that this recent influx of normal fags is because of twitch, I won't say that twitch is faultless by any means but I think that the large people who advertise themselves as not being like others and who appeal to the normalfag crowd who do not watch anything outside of them or know anything outside of them and who view the world outside of them as cringe. I think that you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out where they're coming from .
One bad apple spoils a bunch

>> No.45069674

>>45069564
This is what the thread should be about, debating about whether twitter should be treated as normalfags, or just a more socially acceptable version of kiwifarms

>> No.45069712

>>45048133
If you havent realized yet the face of vtubing in the western world is ironmouse and the myriad of nonweeb Twitch streamers that use vtuber models as an avatar are the ones shaping what it means to be a vtuber which is being a cam whore without a cam which is exactly the same as the OG jap vtubersexcept nowhere near as cute or enteresting

>> No.45069746

>>45069618
Except for they really don't, otherwise she wouldn't be the only person in her gen who's actually capable of streaming to an audience of more than 500 people .
The rest of her company has a total of one other person in it who is capable of reaching even somewhat close to her numbers and her audience has the largest overlap with Pippas .
So I guess you're right, in the sense that they might watch one other person occasionally, but there is a reason why she is the only one in her company who reaches 4view status. And it's because her audience is made up of normies.

>> No.45069753

>>45069674
Japanese twitter is definitely normalfag tier, seeing casuals reacting to vtuber stuff in japanese twitter trends would be a true glimpse into the culture clash. Terminally online twitter freaks with their organized campaigns against niche culture does not represent the average normalfag, at all.
At least in my opinion, as you said, it's a disussion worth having.

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I don't get why people conflate /pol/fags with normalfaggotry. If anything, these same people are sexless robot incels who actually likes otaku culture and hates the politicization niggers from tumblr refugees on twitter brought onto the subculture. If anything, they were right about their predictions and the le fence sitters who always blame everything to /pol/. I don't want federal agents and anyone adjacent to them shitting up my hobby. Is that really hard to understand?

>> No.45069818

>>45069712
To be fair there are some actual Japanese cam whore vtubers that have been around since like shortly after Kizuna AI became popular. At least I'm pretty sure, I know I'm subscribed to a few cuz honestly it's kind of hot, but I don't know when they actually started because they've had their accounts terminated more than once

>> No.45069827

>>45069674
No, a normie has no idea vtubers even exist, normies are watching shit like sports and TV shows and probably talking about celebrities and other things. Terminally online troons are just mentally unhinged people.

>> No.45069895

>>45069746
They do, nobody cares about you and you don't belong here. Go back faggot.

>> No.45069936

>>45069298
Kim Kardashian is an otaku and talks about anime a lot on instagram.

>> No.45069957

>>45069618
She made a stream in which she shared part of her youtube analytics and for a big chunk of her subscribers she was their first experience with a vtuber...also overlap with Punkalopi

>> No.45070019

>>45068935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrm2B0lhvYc&t=191s

>> No.45070067

>>45069746
Pippa has a lot more exposure that other vtubers have blown up, the other phase girls like tenma and lia have been growing pretty steadily as well.
Stop trying to hate pippa and her fanbase, they like vtubing, they talk about vtubing for a huge part of every stream

>> No.45070128

>>45069895
Do you have any proof of that? Cuz like I said, she really is the only person in her entire corporation that is capable of getting her level of views. Her audience obviously does not watch anybody else in her corporation or else they would surely all see some sort of benefit to her having such a large audience .
On top of that, it's not like they all overlap each other either, so if her audience does indeed watch other Vtubers, why do other members in her corporation not at all benefit from her audience?

>> No.45070132

>>45069957
She also has a huge overlap with kiara

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it's over
https://twitter.com/stone_toss/status/1635641945396776962

>> No.45070217

>>45048133
EOPs

>> No.45070227

>>45070128
So is this what you wanted to do?
You sperg out this entire thread about pippa just because you want to numberfag yuri?
You are a disgusting cretin.

You are unwanted from vtubing, leave the hobby.

>> No.45070259

>>45069957
Punkalopi, Filian, and Kiara were the top 3.
I'm convinced its something to do with the shorts algo because punkalopi was blowing up in shorts at the time and not streaming yet.

>> No.45070294

>>45064697
A million times this. Specially the mental decoupling with american culture war bullshit. Both sides. Politics can fuck off from vtubing. Retard raiders, harassers and political spergs need to be met with indifference and be seen as powerless.Vtubers and internet need to do their own thing. Don't like what a vtuber does? don't watch it.

But we all know this isn't going to happen with the amount of braindead angry morons running around. Smartphones were a mistake. Social networks were a mistake. Normalfags were a mistake.

>> No.45070296

>>45070067
Tenma and Lia both don't even get close to the same views that she does though. She gets over four times the views half the time as the closest person to her in her corporation. I think that's tenma, last I checked?

>> No.45070315

>>45070177
We can't recover from this.

>> No.45070366

>>45052824
KYS Henri

>> No.45070379

>>45070128
It took a while but the numberfag finally exposes himself.

>> No.45070380

>>45070296
Anon, I am not going to sit here and give your numberfag tendencies any enabling, get the fuck out of the hobby, you are a gross person.

>> No.45070386

>>45070227
No, it's not what I wanted to do, I'm just simply pointing out that if her audience really is filled with all these people who watch Vtubers constantly, her corporation certainly doesn't see any benefit from it. With how much she shills her other members and her corporation in general you'd expect to at least see some of that trickle down to others, but it just doesn't. It just stops with her.
What I'd like to know is why, if she truly has this large audience who only watches Vtubers, then why do none of the other members seem to get even a fraction of this audience in their streams?

>> No.45070483

>>45070379
No, don't give me wrong I'm not trying to be a number fag, but her number is being so large while the rest of her corporation is pretty much low three view, is largely proof that her audience isn't the same audience as theirs. It's not the regular V tuber audience because she advertises herself as someone "not like the other" Vtuber.
She is the first V tuber that you watch because the fact she isn't like those cringe idols, she isn't like those normie e-thots on twitch, she's based .
She shits on all of those things

>> No.45070494

>>45069936
anime is mainstream, there's a reason I said "anime-adjacent otaku subculture"
does she even go into more obscure anime or mostly the more popular stuff? not even doing some purity test or anything, I don't care about this, just saying that even in Japan vtubers are still a niche, Suisei constantly talks about trying to prove herself to the normalfags who will ridicule her on grounds of being a vtuber.

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>>45048133
YURI IS LIVE PLEASE WATCH HER
https://www.twitch.tv/yuri
https://www.twitch.tv/yuri
https://www.twitch.tv/yuri
https://www.twitch.tv/yuri
https://www.twitch.tv/yuri
https://www.twitch.tv/yuri

>> No.45070540

>>45070380
You don't have to enable them. And you can get mad at me for pointing it out, but the end of the day there is a reason why she is so much bigger than everybody else in her corporation and that is solely because her audience is filled with a unique brand of normies.

>> No.45070544

>>45070019
kino, post more

>> No.45070606

>>45070177
KEK, this is good.

>> No.45070611

>>45070386
Because that's how it works, the only HoloEN's I watch are Fauna and Irys, the only PC girls I watch is Tenma, now fuck off and stop being a numberfag.

>> No.45070704

>>45070498
read the game as deadly premonition for some reason, that game is cool.

>> No.45070718

Reddit is down, so expect even more

>> No.45070720

>>45070498
>Twitch
Dropped

>> No.45070731

>>45070128
I think your problem is your conflating a viewing behavior of hololive to the rest of vtubing. Only Hololive has a strong "I'll watch whatever Holo is live" viewer base. Nijifans and most small corpo watchers only stay glued to their oshi, maybe one more, then clip watch other vtubers. Even the most incestuous vtuber groups on twitch only have something in the league of 30-40% overlap with large average ccv divides

>> No.45070736

>>45070611
I mean sure but even then they have a lot more overlap than what PC seems to. The thing about PC is that they seem to have zero overlap.

>> No.45070806

>>45065745
>Pippa
>Specializes "mainly in reaction content
Holy fucking retard you can at least try harder than this, this is so fucking braindead that you wouldn't even believe it

>> No.45070888

>>45070731
Maybe so but I feel like PC is like a less filtered version of hololive, I'd say it's like a nijisanji that appeals more to the GFE crowd and doesn't cannibalize its own viewers but yet almost none of the people who watch Pippa do the hololive thing or even nijisanji thing to a lesser extent and watch the other people in the corp. Pippa finishes her stream and they go on to watch someone like asmongold

>> No.45070895

>>45070611
>>45070731
Can also contribute saying I only watch Airi and Michiru from PC. Nothing against the others, I just have too many vtubers I watch casually, even adding these two was too much, I just couldn't help it because I like them a lot.

>> No.45070962

>>45065745
>Spergout seething at 'political' chuuba
>Doesnt mention Vshojo, NijiEN or the million vtwitters once
Hmm....

>> No.45071133

>>45070736
>Why do people only watch the things they like?
Idk anon

>> No.45071181

>>45049371
I can't believe that Romanian gremlin is still around
Still leeching

>> No.45071209

>>45069573
does he know how obvious it is that all those posts are him or is he so autistic he thinks he blends in?

>> No.45071489

>>45070962
I mentioned that several times that I feel like they've been around long enough to where I don't feel justified calling them responsible for a sudden influx whereas with Pippa her audience is largely new and is largely only about her which is why it has such an overlap with the normie flesh streamer tier audience.
I won't say that they haven't brought in their own unique problems, I won't say that hololive didn't bring in the Reddit culture or anything like that, but what I will say is that the most recent influx of normies are the same people who watch her because as I've stated numerous times she's " not like the others "

>> No.45071590

>>45071209
He's having a meltdown. It's hilarious.

>> No.45072058

>>45071489
>How do you do fellow vtuber enjoyers! I am just one of you guys and also post on the four chans!

>> No.45072148

>>45052824
They aren't normalfags, but yes the problem of nonweebs needs a solution, though i don't know what it would be. There have been scuffles in pcg over mundane things that were never a problem and its because there are a lot of newfags who need to lurk for 2 years

>> No.45072270

>>45072148
The solution was doing JP reps, anon. We told you, we warned you about the ironic weebs. If anything, honest to god wester vtubing been far better than I ever expected up to this point.

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I just wanted to watch girls suck at video games

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