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Ironmouse just dropped $37,000 on 37 outfit concept designs she's probably never going to use

>> No.44953299

How generous of her uplifting so many artists like that.

>> No.44953323

So much for AI art putting creators out of business.

>> No.44953439

artist is still getting paid, doesnt matter too much if she uses it or not outside of bonus payment of exposure

>> No.44953440

>>44953323
This is never going to happen because people may be retarded but even a retard can tell that the people behind the "AI art will make traditional artists obsolete" push are spiteful misanthropes who hate them. People will always value human-made art because art is inherently worthless. Nobody wants to value an AI shat-out assembly-line product. It's the same reason why handmade crafts are still a viable market and sell for way more than factory-made goods.

>> No.44953560

>>44953440
Anon, if you truly believe that mass produced goods are not 99% of the market, then you might beba little out of touch

>> No.44953735

>>44953440
People value human made products when they are better. AI assisted art will be more labor effective, and therefore provide more added value. Jobs that provide less value get phased out, and that's a hallmark of a functional society.

>> No.44953738

>tungsten rat reinvests in the community
>anti thread

>> No.44953789

>>44953257
and?

>> No.44953861

>>44953440
>people behind the "AI art will make traditional artists obsolete" push are spiteful misanthropes who hate them
Except 90% of the people claiming that were artists themselves sperging out about AI art and trying to get it banned/make it socially unacceptable.

>> No.44953863

>>44953257
Tax write off for business expense

>> No.44953952

>>44953257
no she has to cry next week how she hasnt been feeling well and her little faggot fanbase will come to heel and spend their amazon warehouse checks claiming shes so strong

>> No.44953978

>>44953863
do you think business expenses are just free money
she dropped 37 grand instead of the original 5 because money is no object to her anymore

>> No.44954443

>>44953257
Vtuber board pls keep your jtv whores to r*ddit

>> No.44954593
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>>44953257
my dog wife was the very first winner

>> No.44954624

>>44953257
As it turns out, faking a life threatening illness is extremely profitable and leaves you with a lot of money to frivolously burn.

>> No.44954804

>>44954624
yeah man!
https://www.plasmahero.org/hero/ironmouse

>> No.44954849

>>44953978
>Thinks dropping $37k on one project is flexing.
Not even close to what some drop on an animated music video.

>> No.44954918

>>44954804
Nice evidence. Very convincing. Rock solid even.

>> No.44955386

>>44953257
Meanwhile Holoshit models range from ok to garbage, and have only like 2 outfits.
While Nijishit is stuck with barely animated pngs that lag.

And the worst thing is these garbage corpos get multiple tens of thousands of views on reveal and make the revenue back in the the same reveal stream.
If you ever gave money to the big corpos you need to fucking kill yourself

>> No.44955483

>>44955386
>malding this hard because Hololive does new outfits correctly and Vshojo doesn't
Holy kek

>> No.44955537

>its correct cause its the way thing i like does it

>> No.44955732

shouldn't nijisisters and vshojocucks stick together against the big mean hololive board?

>> No.44955737

>>44955483
>does new outfits correctly
what/ each model goes down in quality and thats not mentioning myths 3d that look like complete shit

>> No.44955828

>>44953440
You mean like how people go to the goldsmith to get a wedding ring instead of the ring store?

>> No.44956025

each winner got 1k? wish i heard of this i would've entered

>> No.44956077

what a nice way to give back to the community. wish others could do the same and not just take what is given to them.

>> No.44956102

>>44953440
Lol lmao
Paintpigs are becoming obsolete.
Most Twitter account with less than 10k followers have already quit art and finding a real job.
Vtubers are losing followers due to AI. That why they spite against it.
Check /h/ 150+ AI threads have been made and the drawthread can't even reach 200.
Adapt or die lol. I hope you prepare to go mining and regret your life decisions while I sit in AC room with the sweet aroma from my hot capuchino working comfy coding job

>> No.44956168

>>44953440
Lot of AIfags are mad at this based post. Also you bring up a good point about handmade crafts, never thought of it that way.

>> No.44956172

^
delusional

>> No.44956279

>>44956172
meant for >>44956102

>> No.44956315

>>44956168
Cope.
YAGOO is following a bunch of AI developers. Especially AI voice and AI art.
The future of Vtuber is AI, remove the need for 3dpd behind the avatar.
This is the original goal of Vtuber anyway.

>> No.44956347

>>44953440
based post

>> No.44956538

>>44953257
Probably doesn't matter to her since she's rolling in cash

>> No.44956567

>>44956172
>>44956347
/ic/ fags should go back to their containment board. No one like you. You are a retard elitism luddites who try to kill everyone's joy. Everytime I see your draw thread, I can't stop thinking it is an insult to art itself.

>> No.44957636

>>44953257
>paying the artist for good af models
>fully taking advantage of being 2d
>contributing back to the community
Absolutely Gigachaddery

>> No.44958309

>>44953440
Twitter digital “artists” are barely even real artists. Paint or draw something on a canvas you hack frauds

>> No.44958328

>>44953440
they will hate you but you're right

>> No.44958517

>>44956315
We'll see who will laugh last you whores.

>> No.44958805

Damn I wish I had that kind of money
Damn I wish I could draw well enough to be one of those winners.
Lucky girl

>> No.44958961

>>44953440
The smart artists will sell licences to use their style for commercial AI art. Those mega popular artists with gacha game companies lining up around the block to commission them for character art won't have to pick and choose which ones to fulfill with their limited time, they can just give them a model specifically trained on their own art and absorb the royalties and licensing fees. Artists crusading against AI art are short sighted and lack business acumen.

>> No.44959048

>>44953440
Anon is kinda right but not in that human art is inherently superior but that AI is incapable of thoughtful design.
Design >>>>> the handicraft of producing a well rendered picture.
It's the thought that matters but unironically. Art is a means to convey thoughts and emotions and AI art can't do that, therefore it cannot "design" anything. At best it would be scrambling together previous successful designs.

>> No.44959088

>>44954593
Who's your dog? Shill properly.

>> No.44959097

>>44953257
I don't want to hear anyone complain about how people spend their money ever again if you're ok with this. Damn double standards.

>> No.44959137

>>44953323
How long before AI can rig?

>> No.44959206

>>44953440
Seek help retard.

>> No.44959213
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>>44959048
And you could argue that a human can pick and match pieces that the AI made into a design, but it that case it would be human art again, just made with a tool.
Humanity already had this argument more than 100 years ago on whether factory made things can be art. And the conclusion was that the thought and function of a piece is much more important in the definition of art than the total hand making hours that is put into it. Art is more than just the handicraft of making a picture or sculpture.

>> No.44959530

>>44959137
there's already an auto-UV-Map tool that shitty riggers can use. Notably Gura's (old?) rigger used it on her casual catshark outfit, hence why it was so fucked up.

>> No.44960116

>>44959088
https://twitter.com/RurumiYumemi/status/1624254625603010560

>> No.44960466

>>44953440
AI shit will never replace artists because AIshit-created content cannot be copyrighted.

>> No.44960591

>>44955483
Imagine celebrating because a garbage corpo dupes imbeciles who have never seen an outfit reveal into flocking them with money putting bare minimum effort.
I fucking hate Holocucks, you're the same as nintentoddlers, buying overpriced, low budget, mediocre, low effort trash.

>> No.44960708

>>44956102
>AC room with the sweet aroma from my hot capuchino working comfy coding job
Stupid retard.
Codemonkeys will be replaced next. If AI can recreate artistic expression, there is absolutely nothing stopping it in the near future from writing endless blocks of text, 24/7, at x100000 your speed, 100% error free.

>> No.44961038

>>44960708
In fact coding is one of the easiest things to AI automate because it purely takea place in the computer, which an AI can have easy access to.
The hardest jobs to automate will be the ones that require a human to move from place to place and handle various objects while also having to apply knowledge or creativity.
Making the AI move around in a robot is unfeasible and even if it was it would be much more expensive than just hiring a human who doesn't need maintenance.
Unironically your plumber and electrician and construction worker will be less replaceable than your coder.

>> No.44962257

>>44957636
They always hire the same retard for rigging and he turns everything into floaty bouncy garbage
Its the l2d e-whore trademark at this point

>> No.44962422

>>44956315
neuro-sama confirmed EN3?!

>> No.44962497

>>44953257
Is this supposed to be a bad thing?
Supporting artists is based.

>> No.44962524

>>44960116
>Y2K internet
>see nothing that resembles that time

>> No.44963052

>>44960466
Said fucking who?
All arguments regarding legality and AI are fucking retarded because this shit hasnt been around for long enough for the tech illiterate ghouls running this shit to draft laws. give it a few years.
>>44959048
No there really isnt any "soul" to human made art
The only reason ai art is shit now is because its still far from perfect
We will reach a state where artists can just generate and redraw parts to exact specifications replacing their brush with a text box
Actually we are just as likely for the AI to learn enough about aesthetics and human taste to iterate and generate that shit all on its own

>> No.44963127

>>44956315
>This is the original goal of Vtuber anyway.
No the goal was live action anime
And guess what voice acting is a big part of that

>> No.44963371

>>44953440
>art is inherently worthless
Art is inseparable from the human experience. Creative expression and the appreciation of it is a compulsion shared among all of us.

>> No.44963649

>>44963371
>Art is inseparable from the human experience.
So is breathing, air is also inherently worthless.

>> No.44963691

>>44961038
this, I'm laughing so hard seeing codemonkey act smug while their job is more prone to be replaced by fucking AIs than Artist/Construction Worker.
In Artist and Designer case, sure enough AI can speed their workflow or dish out art faster but one thing AI can't replace is capability to thinking or seek inspiration which 99% artist and designer did. AI will just scramble a prompt to create design but their flaw is they couldn't ''processing'' information from human imagination/inspiration/vision, which is much more COMPLEX than coding/calculation. and most artistic field job always involving on personal thinking, understanding human thought/needs and to do that you need to be able to empathize with human, which AI cant.
Hell, when you want to design a product that's functional and catered to what your audience needs, every artist needs to be critical thinker, problem solver, and capable of analyzing the audience on top with client feedback. that's too much information to process for AI which will require a hell a lot of money to develop such processor and require a long year of fucking research and training. even if in future they can do that they will not be used to create and generate art/design/entertainment but instead in more serious task like government glowie job and help researcher.

>> No.44964614

The Oprah of vtubers.

>> No.44965045

>>44953440
You will definitely see AI art in small indie stuff. Like a game made by 1-2 people, they can get pretty passable character designs and backgrounds quickly using AI and whatnot. The main issue with AI art though is that it's just boring and generic, it can't do really dynamic posing or expressions or virtually any abstract things.

>> No.44965177

>>44963052
The literal US copyright patent office has said AI art cannot be copyrighted, citing that "human authorship" is required for copyright. Art maid by a computer is therefore not eligible for copyright protection. https://www.reuters.com/legal/ai-created-images-lose-us-copyrights-test-new-technology-2023-02-22/

>> No.44965507

I think the only people who defend AI art are unironic underaged coomers who are still horny enough that they can jerk off to some generic pin-up image of a girl just showing her tits and a blank expression. It's all boring shit, the only good stuff is when it fails and makes funny monstrosities.

>> No.44965660

>artfags will never stop seething at programs that are still in their infancy

>> No.44965920

>>44965507
I draw shit but the past few months all I do is use AI because it shits out coomer shit fast. Even found a lora for one of the street fighter artists that consistently makes fully rendered feet, 5 toes, toe nails, feet on the leg they're supposed to go on. But as an artist I can see how limited this shit still is. For a no art scrub it's like magic because they can get their ideas onto canvas with minimum effort, but as someone that actually draws, I want more control over what's being rendered. I want specific character designs and specific scenery and composition. The thing will only shit out an approximation. That being said I really want to make a Lora of my own art.

>> No.44966185

>>44953257
and all of them look like shit because she can't let go of hot pink

>> No.44966594

>>44960591
>overpriced, low budget, mediocre, low effort trash
But enough about VShojo.

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