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>Pikamee
>Pippa
>Zaion
>Shondo

all of these vtubers have been cancelled on twatter. Now tell me, why do vtubers need twitter again? This subculture keeps getting bullied from normalfaggot shitholes with shithead users. Maybe its time to drop twatter and move on to greener pastures away from cancerous normalfags

>> No.44924813

>>44924729
Why do you think the business has changed so much through the years? They also want part of that audience, no matter the cost.

>> No.44924830

based

>> No.44924837

>>44924729
Elon stop being an underachiever and finish the final solution and kill off twitter

>> No.44924923

>>44924729
Honestly they use it as an excuse for "marketing" and "staying in connection with their fans"
because its part of the "show business"
Elon did little to fix this shit and there isnt any competitors

>> No.44924944

>>44924729
Getting canceled = gets more viewers
It's a winning strategy

>> No.44925002

>>44924729
God that's hot...

>> No.44925096

>>44924944
hatewatchers aren't a sustainable audience to have

>> No.44925248

>>44924729
>cancelled
I’ve always assumed that was a negative thing, but Shondo and Pippa are striving off of it. What’s even the point if you can just ignore it, and why can’t anyone else do that? I’ve

>> No.44925290
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44925290

>>44924729
I agree twitter kinda sucks. I think we should all move to spacehey.com
Also you forgot your pal Nyannners! She was "twitter cancelled" like a month ago I think.

>> No.44925373

>>44924729
Pippa's a grifter and Shondo's just some desperate attention whore.

>> No.44925603

>>44925248
I've what?

>> No.44925748

No alternative really. Imagine a Pippa truth social account, or Shondo on Instagram...

>> No.44925861

>>44925603
it's too late the glowies got him

>> No.44925927

>>44925748
When a chuuba doesn't use twitter I've always seen the alternative being discord.
Which is awful I dunno why you would want to do that.

>> No.44926137

>>44924729
This is easily the best picture of Pippa.

>> No.44926200

>>44925373
So true sis.

>> No.44926360

>>44925096
True but it also brings attention to people who have no idea what the fuck is going on and can make them potential new followers

>> No.44926985

>>44925096
The people who "cancelled" Pikamee and attacked Pippa/Shondo do NOT watch vtubers. They wont hatewatch because they never watched in the first place.

>> No.44927389

>>44925096
No anon, they get their opinions that they're being canceled for spread fat and wide, and people that also have those opinions take notice of all the noise and find out a new streamer to watch as a result. Being canceled isn't bad publicity unless you handle it badly.

>> No.44927699

>>44926985
>>44927389
that's the fucking point, retards. Why are they welcoming people who don't like vtubers? Twatter is a hellsite where demons shit flinging each other. It is never a platform for community building. It only exists to destroy

>> No.44928110

>>44927699
Because, like it or not, twitter has like a billion users on it. When your financial success lives and dies by numbers of eyes on your content, you can't ignore a potential pool for audience members that big.

>> No.44928291
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44928291

>>44927699
Twitter is a great site as long as you fucking ignore comments. It literally exists to get news from people you follow. Using it for anything else is for retards.

>> No.44928459

imagine, defending the idea of using twitter. nu-4chan really is overrun by twittard tourists

>> No.44928541

>>44928459
Half of best artists use only twitter. Every anime studio, every mangaka, every animator, every content creator has twitter.

>> No.44928787

>>44928291
This. Tweets are like youtube videos, replies are like the youtube comments.

>> No.44928853

>>44928787
Hilarious how hard this is for people to understand.

>> No.44929154

>>44928787
Except tweeting is content free

>> No.44929323
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>>44928541
I don't have an instagram, I don't have a tumblr account, I don't have a tiktok, I don't have a facebook, I don't have a reddit username, and I don't have a twitter. No one, not even JP artists and vtubers, can make me use twitter or even the mirrors. I don't care if I miss out twatter-exclusive content. FOMO culture is for fags

>> No.44929368 [DELETED] 

vtubers should use pawoo.net exclusively

>> No.44929599

>>44929154
What is "content" if not the thoughts and creations of others, anon?

>> No.44929654

>>44929368
We need a vtuber specific mastodon instance.

>> No.44929680

>>44929323
How hard is it to not read comments by 14y old idiots?

>> No.44929748

>>44924729
im out of the loop, how did pippa get canceled? last i heard she's been on a steady incline

>> No.44929780

>>44929654
>mastodon
imagine, using a fediverse protocol with a character limit

>> No.44929798

>>44929748
Hogwarts again.

>> No.44929804

>>44929748
"Canceled" is just slang for having a bit of controversy. It rarely means someone actually losing their career and core friend groups unless they're a minority, ironically.

>> No.44929850

the twitter immigrants

>> No.44929891

>>44929804

Cancelled is just another word that completely lost meaning. In fact many cancelled people incline these days. For every hater from one side you get a supporter from the other side.

>> No.44930195

>>44925290
>Nyannners
Would unironically not care if that drama whore disappeared from the internet tomorrow with no trace. Attention whored here, caused drama, went off to Tumblr and swore us off and played victim after stuff like the pomf song and then went to streaming off the next big dopamine hit and went back ti image board culture stuff pretending her whole Tumblr phase didn't exist and went on to cause more drama in the community. She's a social vampire.

>> No.44930268

I still don’t understand why they went after Shondo, she had nothing to do with the harry potter shit
She just made a haha loli flat chest joke and thousands of literal children crawled out the woodworks to tell her to kys

>> No.44930342

>>44928291
Yep. Engaging in conversation on Twitter is fucking retarded.

>>44928787
YouTube comments are at least organized and useful for tutorial videos and vids by smaller creators. Twitter replies are practically never of value.

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>>44929680
I don't want to accidentally read twitter passive aggressive lingo like
>lets unpack this
>I literally can't even
>please face the wall
>you dork
>my brother in Christ
>toxic
>seek help
>meds, now

at fucking least I can add these passive-aggressive bullshit phrases on my filters here through the extension. I don't think twatter can effectively do that

>> No.44930815

>>44924837
I want to say this would be a bad idea because we know what happens when containment sites get deleted, but Twitter isn't containing shit when the content creators are using it too. One solution is for Vtubers to mass-exodus from Twitter to a competitor. Some of the haters would follow, but many of them are too lazy to be on two platforms at once. Combine that with defaulting to disabling replies by accounts you don't follow and you can minimize exposure to the hate. Vtubers don't really need to interact with fans on their twitter analog anyway. They can do that during streams, which most haters do not watch.

>> No.44931005

>>44929654
there's vt.social but it's really for vtweeters

>> No.44931106

>>44924729
twitter used to be pretty civilized in japan back in like 2019, then the westerns arrived

>> No.44931204

>>44929599
Video, sound and editing

>> No.44931286

>>44924729
They don't

>> No.44931827

>>44931204
So a person reading tweets for a youtube video is content to you?

>> No.44933349

>>44931827
yes

>> No.44933756

>>44929323
Based. A lot of problems in the world would be solved if people had even half of your resolve.

>> No.44934380

>>44933756
its time for people to go back posting in forums again

>> No.44937413

>>44924729
I need it for updates

>> No.44939494

Why?
Twitter let's them interact with fans and other vtubers or content creators and share important stuff or casual chatting or just memes and fanart.
It lets them keep in touch with everyone else.
That's a lot of perks.
What's the downside? Some people say mean shit about them?
They are gonna do that either way, it doesn't matter if they are on twitter.
And what's the big deal about it?
Are you gonna cry? Shit and piss?
Someone called you a nazi, a pedo or a trannyphobe?
OH NO!
I can see this being a downside for corpos because they are part of a company but for indies the only downside of twitter is having retards say retarded shit.

What vtubers need isn't more hugboxing and simps protecting them or to run away from social media.
They need to grow some balls and stop giving a fuck what idiots say.
Honestly so far the way shondo has been handling it seems the ideal standard, just don't give a fuck.
Pikamee ended up crying and they really got to her.
But they were also on her stream chat and they would have found more ways to harass her.
Vtubers just need to learn to stop giving a fuck about people who are not their fans.

>> No.44939564

>why do Vtubers need Twitter again
Because it’s the only thing that makes them even remotely relevant.

>> No.44939833

>>44927699
Way to miss the point of my comment, you stupid fucking nigger. The only peolle that are pouring into these girls are actual chuuba fans, NOT hatewatchers.

>> No.44940915

>>44939494
You miss the part where, unfortunately, a lot of vtubers are unironically just women with mental health issues. It's easy to say "just ignore it", and yeah, that's the sane approach. But when you are already unwell, it's easier to get worse than it is to get better. Pikamee spent most of her childhood being bullied, so she was already vulnerable to that shit from past trauma. I do think vtubers should just block replies from people that they aren't following, and add more moderators to handle their chats. The bigger problem is haters flood official hashtags with their vitriol and that's hard to ignore and harder to get rid of because Twitter is incompetent. I've reported chink bots spamming Fubuki's hashtags in the past, and it took Twitter literal days before any action was taken. Then they just made another account and got right back to it.

>> No.44941535

>>44940915
I guess those are their options.
Have no twitter or learn to not let people calling them names get to them.
I'd say just growing balls is much better and safer long term but if they can't do that I guess avoiding twitter is better for them.
I know they're menhera women but maybe I'm not sexist enough to believe they seriously can't just stop giving a fuck about hate, it can't just be a skill exclusive to men.
But it sure seems that way sometimes.
But how much of that is the result of women being babied so much they never develop the thick skin to let hate slide?

>> No.44943343

>>44930815
>One solution is for Vtubers to mass-exodus from Twitter to a competitor.
4chan could've been that competitor, but it has dogshit UI and is way too complicated to use, so it understandably turns off any sane, normal person.
We need a platform with the culture of 4chan, but with optional or no anonymity and actually good UI.

>> No.44943929

>>44925096
I don't think most of the new viewers are hatewatchers. I think they're right-wingers/reactionaries/chuds/whatever you wanna call them who, believe it or not, can also genuinely be interested in this hobby and are looking for a chuuba who shares their views and sticks it to the woke mob.
But in each of those cases, the chuuba actively rejects and purges them from her audience by shitting on them, telling them they aren't welcome, saying "not to use them as a weapon" or that "they have the wrong idea", etc.
It's like, why can't there just be one single chuuba who fully embraces it? You get a free boost from a loyal audience that won't criticize you no matter how edgy you wanna be. I don't get it.

>> No.44944568

>>44924729
Fuck Pippa. She likened people who misinterpreted (correctly interpreted) her notice as being the same as the ones who bullied pikamee. In the most bad faith, context ignoring rant I've ever seen from her.
https://youtu.be/cZQ0eq-bRY4
The leftists that called her a grifter were correct (for once)

>> No.44944891

I think at this point the only way to stop the toxicity of Twitter is to require people to give their full information to have an account. Real name, birthdate, social security number, etc. That way any time someone tries to participate in a harassment campaign they can be immediately reported to the police with minimal effort. They also wouldn't be able to make new accounts without literal identity theft. The threat of real consequences is the only thing that will stop it. These people just cannot be trusted with anonymity. Of course this would never work in practice because it would be a massive security risk to trust Twitter with half a billion people's identifying information. A better solution might be to simply abandon twitter entirely and make more extensive use of the community tab on Youtube for posting news and announcements.

>> No.44945900

>>44929748
she committed the biggest sin, she played the wizard games
trannies had such a meltdown even commie grifters like vaush and hasan talked about her calling her a "literal nazi"

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>>44925603
I’ve lost an hour of sleep and that was the last thing I typed before crashing completely. How’s the thread?

>> No.44947197

>>44945900
>she played the wizard games
You are mildly underselling it. My knees still have not recovered. https://twitter.com/pipkinpippa/status/1631310927680221184

>> No.44947684

>>44924729
Getting cancelled would mean fucking off from the internet and none of them were cancelled
>b-b-but zaion termination!!!
Which would've happened no matter what even if twitter didnt exist

>> No.44948762

>>44944891
ok wef

>> No.44949247

>>44924729
https://twitter.com/RuneBunnura/status/1634601127718326278
Another based take from a vtuber that summoned the twitter freaks

>> No.44949334

>>44924729
Because if you haven't noticed, most of twitter doesn't give a shit, it's actually grown three of those (last one couldn't grow because she's a corpo who got fired for it)

>> No.44949408

>>44947684
This, the correct term would be cancellation ATTEMPT
they tried to do it, emboldened on the knowledge that they usually get what they want, then they didn't get what they wanted. Worse, most people actually think they look retarded for trying.

>> No.44949457

>>44943343
>We need a platform with the culture of 4chan, but with optional or no anonymity and actually good UI.

You're going to hate me for saying this, but this is basically odysee

>> No.44950360

>>44924729
I think its ironic pippa is a rabbit when she is missing her two front teeth and rabbits are often cartoonishly depicted with giant two front teeth

>> No.44951258

>>44924729
Make a collab between these three happen and bring the Vtuber revolution. Twitter sisters would quit the hobby in droves.

>> No.44954044

>>44930497
this. so much this. I literally can't even!

>> No.44955566

>>44925373
How is she a grifter? she is just a woman, what she does is her natural genetic behavior. She is a bit based since she was raised on 4chan instead culture instead of having a good father in the house. I quite like her despite her being the typical libshit woman with mild based takes.

>> No.44955586

>>44949457
I don't necessarily have anything against Odysee, but it wouldn't replace the function of Twitter, it would replace the function of YouTube. We're talking about replacing Twitter as the primary platform for promoting and generating discussion about, in this case, content posted on YouTube or Twitch.

>> No.44955735

>>44943343
>4chan could've been that competitor, but it has dogshit UI and is way too complicated to use, so it understandably turns off any sane, normal person.
>4chan is complicated
People really are getting dumber huh.

>> No.44955775

>>44955586
>CEO
>jeremy kauffman
Miss me with that shit.

>> No.44955786

>>44925096
Shondo got tons of new followers & subscribers because of getting cancelled lol. Pippa too

>> No.44955882

>>44943343
The thing that turns people away is the history and culture of this place. For everybody except maybe kiwifarms this place is where the meanest, the rudest and generally the worst people congregate.

>> No.44956298

>>44955775
What's wrong with Jeremy Kauffman?

>> No.44956333

>>44924729
Last I checked Pippa and Shondo are yab-proof and Zaion was turned on by her own "family" and likely under some kind of NDA contract while not realizing she can actually lawyer up since her previous company just dragged her name in the mud and encouraged fans to attack her.
And if you try and bring up managements pin on her twitter thats just proof you don't watch her and you're a dumb nigger

>> No.44956431

>>44955735
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/feb/27/gen-z-tech-shame-office-technology-printers

yes, zoomers are literally having mental breakdowns over printers, have no idea how computers work and need actual baby boomers to help them at tech support

>> No.44956460

>>44955882
4chan is literally no meaner than Twitter or Reddit. The only difference is the average political leaning. Nah, the reason people don't use this site is because the UI sucks. I promise.

>> No.44956499

>>44955882
Ironically 4chan is where the nicest and most understanding people on the internet also hang out, outsiders just don't understand the culture and thats a good thing

>> No.44956564

>>44955735
No, people just don't want to do literal fucking labor just to browse threads. Do you also use a Linux and code everything from scratch?

>> No.44956620

>>44924729
You say it's normalfags that are doing the harassing, but trust me, us normalfags dislike twitter shit as much as you do. The normalfags are the ones who aren't commenting or getting the most attention.

>> No.44956676

>>44956564
>labour to browse threads
Oh my fuck there's a catalog you little whiny bitch it's not even like lifting trees in freezing degree weather and cutting them into planks and securing them to cars while it's raining stop acting like click and point takes more than 5-10 minutes for a newfag to figure out hot damn.

>> No.44956704

>>44956564
Then go back, your kind aren't welcome here

>> No.44956713

>LOOK AT THIS PICTURE ISNT IT SICKENING? I HOPE YOU WILL NEVER LOOK AT THIS PICTURE!! ONLY PEDOS WOULD LOOK AT IT
so true sis

>> No.44956721

>>44956499
It's crazy that this is true, since everyone here is a stupid asshole. It's just people are assholes if you piss them off here, but on twitter you're like "hi" and instantly your dms are filled with tranny 14 year olds screaming at you for no reason.

>> No.44956763

>>44956620
The better term would be 'failed normalfag'. People who insist that they're normal with their 50 pronouns and mental illnesses, but can't fit in with Dave and Busters and their fantasy football league on saturday night with the boys and some beers.

>> No.44956821

>>44956721
People here just like to argue and call each other faggots, if you group everyone up in a chat it either becomes really quiet or it's like you just walked into a bar with people you've known your entire life and no inbetween

>> No.44957059

>>44924729
Not a vtuber. I want to quit twitter, but I don't want to lose touch with the hundreds of artists I follow there. So I stick around and get drawn into hell.

>> No.44957259

>>44944568
Because you literally didnt read her notice retard. Take your schizophrenic headcanon elsewhere, SEAnigger.

>> No.44959080

>>44956499
Don't get too far ahead of yourself. There are also tons of schizos on here who wish to destroy the evil internet woman while moralfagging about how their schizo behavior is totally justified and good.

>> No.44959120

>>44956620
>>44956763
This idea that the internet is this niche nerd thing regular people have never heard about hasn't been been true in quite some time, friends.

>> No.44959162

>>44959080
Yeah but like how every village has their rapist, or every 7/11 has their patron crackhead, every thread has its own schizo, its just part of the scenery

>> No.44959238

>>44927699
twitter isnt a hivemind retard

>> No.44959276

>>44924729
what's your point? those people arent vtuber watchers and they'd do it even if the chuubas didnt have twitter accounts

>> No.44959428

>>44943343
4chan is one of the few sites that still has good UI

>> No.44960038

>>44943343
I don't want vtubers to use tripcodes here. It's fucking gay.

>> No.44960323

>>44956431
>millennial realized you actually have to teach the younger generations to be functional
millennials really are a mistake. Spiritual boomerism; the generation

>> No.44962050

>>44924729
>Maybe its time to drop twatter
they wont

>> No.44962087

>>44943343
based 2016 oldfag

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>>44962087
>2016 is being an oldfag now
I don't feel so good...

>> No.44962687

>>44924729
Everything wrong that happened to them is due to /pol/ pandering

>> No.44962751

>>44960323
Many millenials are in their early thirties or even still in their fucking twenties, how the fuck are you gonna blame them for this old world power and teaching bullshit

>> No.44963185

>>44960323
>Spiritual boomerism; the generation
All their talk about how we could do anything one minute and then how the world will end tomorrow the next really hammered home the fallacy of thinking that we are living in the end of history and any changes done to society and the world will be final.
Because of this, my response to any doomsday prediction isn't "what a load of shit" or "oh no! We're all gonna die" it's "Fuck, I hope so"

Also
>Pinning zoomers being retarded on millennials
I hope you're not giving those drug-addled divorced crybabies known as generation X a free pass.
They were the ones who designed the big tech innovations to get kids addicted to their phones.

>> No.44963316

>>44933349
god i hate zoomers

>> No.44963383

>>44930497
just filtering y'all and folks will remove 99% of these people

>> No.44963449

>>44924729
I love how transtweeters have lost so much credibility that "cancelling" just means "was harassed for a bit and nothing happened" now.
Anyway big tech monopoly basically requires companies to use twitter to communicate with costumers
Like they all use fucking discord internally as well

>> No.44963670

>>44963449
How the fuck did discord even overtake slack for tech companies, slack was there first and every tech company was using it

>> No.44964172

>>44959120
No shit but the people spending all day on Twitter with pronouns in their bio circlejerking each other are far from normal. They won't go out behaving like that around normal people or they will make zero friends and gain nothing but contempt, they need the internet for validation.

>> No.44964224

>>44955586
Mastodon seems to be picking up nowadays

>> No.44964275

>>44962687
Playing a wizard game isn't /pol/ panderng. Having a loli vtuber model isn't /pol/ pandering. And clearly nothing "wrong" is happening if said faux outrage has only increased their following.

>> No.44964523

>>44928459
*/vt/

>> No.44965070
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44965070

How can you people watch a literal nazi?

>> No.44965224

>>44965070
I will now watch your v-tuber.

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>>44965070
https://twitter.com/ChaoticEvilJoo/status/1629859273512452099

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44966007

I just wonder how can someone be so easily doxxed by twitter looneytroons like Zaion was. I don't mean just finding her PL/RM account, I mean finding actual full name, address, names of family members, past jobs, etc. If they're American I hope they get into a criminal trial and if they're Chinks I hope they get reported to the CCP and raped in a concentration camp.

>> No.44966579

>>44966007
Chinks don't care about americans being doxxed unless its international incident espionage tier
And lets be honest, unless management tell them to very few girls are fedposting schizos behind 5 layers of proxies, combined with being backstabbed by her company

>> No.44968214

>>44966007
Because she had a known past. It usually happens because people tend to reuse the same usernames, passwords etc. across multiple accounts for many years. Then it just takes someone willing to dig through the internet looking for patterns and connect past accounts, emails etc.

>> No.44968243

>>44964275
Pippa only got into trouble because her fans are /pol/tards who used her playing the wizard game as a reason to involve her in "the culture war"
Tenma also played the game and no one cared

>> No.44968362

>>44968243
I remember pippa dog whistling /pol/ shit pretty fequently but she's a bit basic bitch conservative for my tastes.

>> No.44968397

>>44968243
Every single fucking vtuber has /pol/tards. Trannies on twitter are also fucking /pol/tards on the other side of the spectrum. If you ever associate yourself with ANYTHING that is in the middle of controversy then it's going to cause that shit. That doesn't make playing HL inherently political.

>> No.44969670

>>44928459
He says on a nu-4chan containment board

>> No.44969754

>>44964224
Only in the minds of default redditors who don't use it. It's a shit platform otherwise.

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