/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

It's wild to realize just how right holoniggers were when they bashed nijien. The way the management AND the talents handled Zaion's termination was eye-opening. Guess I'm an autist if I didn't notice it before. I'd sneered at holomems' fake crying, but it's 100% better and more professional than the vile crap nijien is doing.
I still think that nijien livers are decent streamers and entertainers but I just can't enjoy watching shitty people.
Ironically, this whole "a bunch of close friends" shtick ended up turning me off.

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>>44886658
How can someone even end up being a nijifag and not a holochad anyway, the only thing that makes sense is intentionally choosing the inferior product.
Your fault.

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>>44886658
I watch both holo and Niji but I'm done with Niji, I quite liked Zaion and they really shit the bed and now you can see the interns running damage control on /vt/ and her coworkers who are all about "family" smearing her name without letting her defend herself, some utter bullshit.

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>>44886709
They're like the kids on the playground who got a PS Vita to school instead of a 3DS and endlessly coped about trying to find ways to assert its superiority day in day out. When nobody really cared ultimately and just went about their business enjoying their 3DSes. Similarly for all the bitching and gaslighting Niji fans here do, HoloEN is still way way more popular.

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>>44886900
Vita is good if you want to play Japanese games

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>>44886658
one day, your OSHIT will have a freudian slip again Pomucuckchi, filthy bootlicker and a serial liar

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>>44886709
Anon it's obvious already, it's women and ironic weebs aka normalfags who want to feel like they're included in the zany weeb culture but without the actual culture that offends them. It's why they won't watch anything besides nijiEN.

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>>44886943
Kind of exactly proving his point. Nijisanji is only good for its JP talents.

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive when Rushia gets canned for leaking personal shit
>We'll always have her in our hearts :)))

Nijisanji when Zaion gets canned for being a dumb asshole
>UM AS A SEXUAL ABUSE SURVIVOR SHE MADE ME REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE *cries into money*
>I wish I could say I wish her luck but I can't
>She gaslit me so hard and I feel betrayed and maybe I just shouldn't trust anyone anymore
>*unpersons someone in a literal cover duet but leaves it up for the sweet ad pennies*

How hard is it to just say nothing?

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>>44887785
Don't question it. She's literally Hitler and is singlehandedly responsible for Anycolor stocks crashing.

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>>44886709
Even with all the shitpost from sisters or seaniggers I treated NijiCN relatively well, for me to hate them and unsubscribe from all include Pomu took the participation of the talents and management themselves. These people are enemies to themselves, to their progress, and to the whole hobby of vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

The NijiFamily(tm) has always been a dangerous wire to rest laurels upon, at least since it became commonplace for NijiEN to use it. Yugo proved that this was a mistake, but Zaion further revealed just how fragile the line was; there is zero reason to believe any of them hold genuine interest in maintaining camaraderie versus doing what they are told.

[Anonymous No.]

NijiEN reminds me of high schoolers, you have 1 or 2 mature types like Selen and everyone else is running around like a retard, starting drama and cliques and it's all a big popularity contest. Hololive friendships don't always feel 100% genuine but I'll take that environment over whatever is happening at niji

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>>44887785
Holy fuck is this real? Literal snakes in that branch

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>>44888275
yeah, from Hex, Kotoka, Finana, and Maria respectively

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>>44887785
I can't believe Zaion nuked Hiroshima

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>>44888267
holos are professional. There are tards like Mori
and Kronii but they always get tardwrangled by fans

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>>44888311
>>44888275
They're not the last ones, expect Niji to push more of those statements in the following days

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>>44887785
She did not do Nanking right?

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>>44886658
Same

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>>44886658
Take it from me anon as another anon who dropped several of their livers over this.
One day the clique will come for your oshi and it will end in heartbreak.
Best to get out now before they run the bus over selen or pomu.

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>>44886658
My only comfort is knowing how terminally /here/ the Niji EN clique is, and knowing that they’re going out of their way to read every negative catalogue thread on this board out of sheer egoism.

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>>44887785
Mortuis nihil nisi bonum. Holo gets it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44887568
NijiEN used to be good until Eytheria or whatever the fuck debuted and spread the numbers thin. Didn't help that one was a giga bitch and the other was a trend hopper.

Then luxiem came out. I had some hope for them until it turned out 2 were british, one being a pretend faggot, and one was a swede. Even then it seemed like they might have been okay because the american and autistic srayan where bareable and one of the british guys was an autist supreme that got hyper focused on games, but that went out the window when the strayan turned out to be a skirt chaser and chinks and other woman started invading the fanbase causing a mad scramble for the men to appeal to chinese women.

It's been downhill ever since. Lolisex seemed to be a step in the right direction with some new entertaining girls and one supreme autist man and only one raging chink chasing man whore but the Zaion situation just kind of ruins it all for me at this point. Only pomu and selen seem worthwhile. Maybe doppio depending on how you read into the way he's handled the situation and refusal to acknowledge it.

[Anonymous No.]

A solid, firm turd may be better than diarrhea but both are still literal shit. I’m never going back to either corpo ever again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44887785
not to mention
>sana leaves after clearly not giving a fucking shit about hololive for like 10 months straight
>gets a nice proper graduation anyway
then within a few months
>sana reveals she's perfectly healthy and the backhorts was all fake, quickly becomes a dick to her own ex-fans, basically tells all of the Holo scene to shove it
>despite it now being practically fair game to do so, nobody talks shit about her. Council mentions they still talk with her, had a nice sad reunion of sorts going up to the top of her minecraft tower.

quite massive difference really.

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>>44890335
They realize that every member, no matter how bad, is one ingredient in the kettle of stew and that taking a big shit in the pot everyone has to share does no one any good.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you think things will end for Pomu? Graceful graduation in a few years once she's ready to move on from nijisanji, or will she get canceled by her branch "mates" and the twitter crowd that they pander to?

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>>44886658
>Literally everyone who worked with Zaion said she brought it on herself and don't contest the termination in any capacity
>"Clearly she's a victim who dindu nuffin and its everyone else who's terrible. I'm quitting NijiEN."
You're either the least obvious falseflaggot or the type of retard who'd take Meiro's side.

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>>44890435
To add, the entire reason vtubing corps exist in the first place is to create a sense of bond between the talents all fitting under the same umbrella. When the members start shitting on each other, starting drama with other members and drawing lines in the sand it dissolves that feeling of unity that fans have and everyone starts to become tribalistic.

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>>44890218
It ruin it for me when they deliberately throw her under the bus, i mean even if it justify, do you really need to stream on how much you hate her to justify those bullet point. Seriously, wtf is wrong with them.

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>>44888497
Finana already did. Bonus points for misusing the word 'gaslight'.

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>>44890512
>Employer announces suspension so that Twitter harasses and doxxes her for days with a coworker joining the mob demanding her head
>didn't contest the termination
Gee I wonder fucking why, total mystery why she wanted out of a den of vipers when given the chance.

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>>44890512
>believing a word that they say
come on, now

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>>44890559
The alternative is letting Nijianti narratives run wild.
If Anycolor weren't transparent with their reasoning and if the others didn't give their piece, people would think that Zaion is a poor wittle dindu screwed over by a black company and not a retard who can't follow some simple rules.
Fuck, they still do. Like this guy below.
>>44890673
And why did the suspension happen in the first place?
Oh yeah. Zaion acting fucking stupid and refusing to stop.

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>>44890654
Niji EN is kinda retard to throw the Finana out there first. She's like the least liked Niji member and even her fans think she's a retard who probably has no idea what's going on.

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>>44886658
>It's wild to realize just how right holoniggers were when they bashed nijien.
Why are you pretending?

For what purpose?

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>>44890512
>Finana, Kyo, Enna and the gyaru said she brought it upon herself
>people who most of this board consider liars, backstabbers and snakes
>except for the gyaru who is now considered one for siding with them
Buddy, you're actively harming your case by saying this.

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>>44890810
Anon all anycolor has to do was say she was being terminated for breach of contract for repeated misconduct, there is zero reason for the talents themselves to give personal statements other than "It's sad things came to this, but I wish her all the best in her future life." instead of dragging a former talent through the mud. It looks good on no one and especially makes the whole corp look bad when everyone was able to see Zaion's content for themselves and very few actual viewers had issues with her jokes or content.

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>>44889918
Sometimes I think that posting about Niji is the easiest way to get attention in this world, since livers are insecure losers who do egosa 24/7

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>>44890698
did Selen participate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44890810
Back to work nijijannie, your shill posts are pathetic, just like your organ's numbers.

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>>44890512
Meiro attacked Roa on false premise. Zaion *checks notes* falsely claimed to be sponsored by RAID: Shadow Legends. Everyone who worked with her claimed that she refused to learn from her mistakes unlike they, the good boys, did. Which is objectively false if you look at her history of privated VODs and when the stated reasons for termination happened. Oh, and Hex went full #meToo I guess. Can't be pandering to underage girls without that one.

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>>44890921
>people who most of this board consider liars, backstabbers and snakes
"most of this board" are bronies with a hateboner for Nijisanji who buy into any narrative that makes the company look bad and cling to it no matter how much evidence to the contrary there may be.
You still have retards who believe that Luna got bullied out, that Meiro was innocent, and that the Holo VOD purge and Aloe's graduation were caused by Nijifans.
>>44890937
They already tried keeping termination reasons secret with Yugo's case.
It didn't work.

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>>44890698
I swear these comments are made by some PR manager who has access to all their accounts because it's so robotic. That or they are literally instructed to make comments like this.

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>>44890810
The only thing NijiEN managers had to do was:
>Tweet "Zaion Lanza has been suspended for misconduct. We will post more updates in the future."
>Tweet "Unfortunately due to the difficulty in working with Zaion Lanza, her contract has been terminated. We wish her good luck on her future endeavors."
>Tardwrangle the snake members to not say anything that could bring hate to her and for them to say to not harass her.
>Zaion would have been forgotten by /vt/ and Nijitroons in a matter of weeks, only a few mentions of her here and there
Woah that was fucking hard and I have never been in a management position.

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>>44890308
Small corpos are a meme and just as "bad" as corpos, in other ways.

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>>44891198
>Transparency bad
Incredible. Only on /vt/.

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>>44890536
Right, it's dumb because they greatly weakened a useful consensual delusion - even when their talents outwardly seemed to have friction or avoid each other, people could cope with 'well behind the scenes they're all coworkers and probably have an amicable relationship, it only makes sense'. Now that's out the window. People won't go, 'oh, now the bad egg's gone everyone left just so happens to gel well with each other', they'll be wondering who's the next Zaion.

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>>44891274
>That whole fucking list of stretched out character assassination lies applicable to almost every post-Obsydia member
>Transparency

[Anonymous No.]

>>44891149
kek you are literally the first person I have ever seen trying to link niji to Aloe, disingenuous nijishill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44890810
>And why did the suspension happen in the first place?
>Oh yeah. Zaion acting fucking stupid and refusing to stop.
Hey, niji intern, question for you. ever heard the phrase 'two wrongs don't make a right?'
Besides most of us know the given reasons were tame shit and is the average tuesday for other members so we know it's all bullshit. enna termination for constant hate speech when? finana termination for leaking private correspondence when?

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>>44891149
niji vs holo wasn't even a thing back when Aloe debuted.

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>>44891198
They did it so that they can now have a bunch of people anti Niji-EN as a whole

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>>44890810
>The alternative is letting Nijianti narratives run wild.
Here'ss a nijianti narrative for you: NijiEN is desperately trying to protect their reputation by dragging an ex-talent's reputation through the mud, not giving a shit it has lead to straight up harassment and doxxing, and the harder you try to make Zaion look like the vtuber Hitler, the more despicable it becomes

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>>44890852
You know there's other branches of Nijisanji besides EN, right?

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>>44891274
Human beings aren't rational. They rationalize things to justify their own feelings. They hate Nijisanji, so anything Nijisanji does is bad.

Yes they're stupid, but until bots replace humans it's what the internet will be.

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>>44891274
If the list was half as long and neutrally worded maybe. Genies out of the bottle nijishill, your branch just pulled a vshojo and exiled the core paying audience.

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>>44891274
>transparency is when billion dollar corporations slander ex-talents in a desperate effort to protect their reputation while the talents can't defend themselves without a looming threat of a massive lawsuit

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>>44891274
Reaching for every minuscule thing to pad out the list rationalizing the termination and dressing it up to look worse than it actually was is not transparency. What is supposed to be transparent about presenting a Raid sponsor joke every Western streamer did at this point as "falsely claiming to be sponsored by a brand during a stream"? Like yeah, technically correct. Now let's see how people will react if you actually tell people what it was instead of hiding behind legalese. They really shouldn't have included that one if they wanted to be taken seriously but I guess they just told an underpaid intern to handle the whole thing. Just like everything NijiEN management does tbqh.

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>>44886658
I genuinely mean this, and I'm not meming when I say it.
NijiEN WAS good at one point, and that was during the Lazusydia days. Once Luxiem and Ethryria came along, the gig was up, everything has gone to shit. Genuinely.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BUT LUXIEM BROUGHT IN SO MANY NEW FA-
Yeah, Luxiem and Ethyria brought in all of the twitter trannies. All of the faggot LGBTQ+ cunts. All of the lonely incel chink office ladies.
Luxiem and Ethyria, to put it bluntly, is the equivalent of a mostly white and orderly country letting in a bunch of shitskin migrants who go on to rape, murder and cause chaos while mixing and muddying the bloodlines of that once beautiful country with their subhuman genes.

Not one Lazusydia lover cares that Luxiem brought in a whole slew of new fans because all it did was harp the company.
Enna is one of the worst fucking things that has ever happened to Nijisanji. She is an absolute cunt in every sense of the word. Same with that wigger kyo.
ILuna was the death rattle of the company. Nothing but a bunch of fleshtubers and boring bastards, most of which hadn't even heard of vtubers before they auditioned. Only Maria was somewhat decent.
Then comes Xsoleil.
>Keep the boring korean beta who let's Enna shit talk him and stomp all over his already non-existent masculinity
>Keep the fat gook gyaru who has no appeal outside of being a crass cunt and a snake
>Keep the Jap girl who can barely speak a word of english and has a dialect that is nigh impossible to understand, straight up sounds like she's gargling marbles in her mouth, I literally have no idea what the fuck she's saying, unwatchable.
>Keep the cringy as fuck "chuuni" larper who makes every collab I've ever seen him in unwatchable because I can't help but cringe at his rp.
>Keep the literal groomer who is advocating for his underage fanbase of depressed girls to send him selfies and to donate to him so he can 'diagnose and treat their suicidal thoughts and depression'

>Terminate the cute, tsundere, highly energetic, shotacon loving, gacha addicted cat girl who has the best rigging and model of any liver, period. The one that can larp without it being overbearing and cringy, the only one who knows how to play her character well out of the last 5 waves
Zaion was the best part of that wave and now she's gone. The rest are garbage.

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>>44891149
>Luna got bullied out, that Meiro was innocent, and that the Holo VOD purge and Aloe's graduation were caused by Nijifans
All facts. You can't patent an accent.

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>>44891290
>they'll be wondering who's the next Zaion.
Don't worry, a person who fucks up countless times in a short period of time and refuses to clean up their act is a rarity.
>>44891376
You must be new here then.
>>44891374
>>44891408
>The "b-b-b-b-but the others did it too" shit again
The difference is they understood they fucked up and tried to not fuck up again. Zaion didn't. She, by herself, had more of these fuckups in just two months than Lazusydia had in their nearly 2-year-long careers.

[Anonymous No.]

Funny how you nijitards used to brag about how your organs were real friends and not just coworkers.

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>>44891698
>You can't patent an accent
>Kiara pic
>forgetting when everyone got mad at her for "copying" Pekora's laugh

[Anonymous No.]

>>44891274
>transparency
>when their list is the equivalent of a receipt with barely visible writing with no prices
it's perfect for people who barely have any semblance of critical thinking aka terminally online twitter freaks

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>>44891265
The only way left is to support a vtuber as an individual. Either indies or still a corpotuber, ignoring the group they are in. Unfortunately for the latter it's hard to do so when their corpo parrots their forced unity and collabs, and more often than not there's more collabs with the dogshit members than the individual experience.

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>>44891800
Who cares if randos got mad? Pekora didn't use her influence to kick her out of the company like Roa and Enna's clique did for Meiro and Zaion because of some petty bullshit.

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>>44891789
All supposed fuck ups that no one saw and the "fuck ups" we did see are tame as fuck by vtuber standards, hololive and nijiJP talents get away with far more controversial things. It makes all the other reasons they gave seem questionable when we could see her content for ourselves. None of this is good optics to anyone, hence the stock crashing and turmoil even outside of /vt/.

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>>44886658
Meanwhile Vshojo has no graduations. Guess this makes them better than both right?

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>>44891939
As a corpo yes unironically. Too bad the talents are all 2 bit whores.

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>>44891905
>Casually mentioning piracy is "tame as fuck"
You know you're talking about the company that lost a sponsorship because it was revealed that one of those set to participate pirated nipple-play porn?
Piracy isn't a joke to them.

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>>44891698
Not what happened, but keep being retarded

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>>44891789
Only another 50 posts before you get your gift card!

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>>44891939
>Oh yeah well VShojo good now, betcha don't wanna say that huh? You lose because I bet you hate VShojo so much.
VShojo management is fine and much more respectful of their talents than any of the big JP corpos. What now.

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>>44891939
To their fans absolutely, regardless of how appealing you think their content is. They don't have nearly as much drama and infighting within their actual viewerbase and talents receiving harassment on social media.

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>>44891939
Didn't the whole company do a slander campaign to that one guy who fucking saved their reputation due to an external hiring scam?

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>>44891893
Meiro didn't get kicked out by any "clique", she got kicked out by being a retarded menhera

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>>44892049
>>44892148
Whatever, intern-kun. How much do they pay you?

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>>44892034
There's entire leaked discord conversations for hololive discussing how to get pirated DLC functioning for a game and not a thing came out of it. If something like that happned in nijiEN the fans themselves would be throwing each other under the bus.

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>>44892034
>mention pirating old ass games in your 2nd stream as a copro vtuber
>it will be used to justify firing you months later both by management and brand simps
Your corpo is darker than the blackest gorilla nigger on this board

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>>44886658
This made it clear the type of people it brought in are the same undesirables that harassed silvervale, pikamee, shondo etc. Except instead of just angrily bitching at people they don't watch, nijien wants to make that their main audience. Good luck with those loonies.

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>>44892199
>no argument
Concession accepted, schizo-kun

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>>44892209
>>44892306
Finana mentioned anime piracy on stream and nothing happened besides a presumed talk with management that she supposedly took to heart.
Meanwhile Zaion never learned SHIT.

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>>44892333
>rape
>pedophilic
I really fucking with NijiJP was more popular with the west just so these twitter trannies would have thought twice before bandwagoning on Niji.

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>>44891789
The charges against zaion are exaggerated.
One "queen of jews" is nothing compared to ennas CONSTANT racism against koreans, whites and sexism against men.
The ONE time she apologized was when she dared to make fun of black people.

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>>44892482
Kenmochi and Utako would give them an aneurysm.

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>>44891274
Oh the SEAniggers who make these threads would complain about transparency too if given the option.
There's a reason why only they are incapable of seeing that Zaion was a bad hire.
It's sad when ever dramaniggers take the side of the corporation over that of the talent.

But SEAniggers never watched zaion anyway, nobody did aside from like 3 people on this board and at least two of them have said that her firing was justified. But SEAniggers are gonna SEAnig. Just another day

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>>44886709
I was a massive follower of Ame, until I was about to drop vtubers entirely, then I saw a clip of Finana and Pomu playing Minecraft 2 years ago, I thought they had really soothing voices and were pretty funny together. Haven't gone back to hololive ever since.

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>>44892473
??? she only mentioned piracy in her second stream, which is why it was so bizarre to see it used as a reason to suspent/terminate her many months later when it wasn't even something her viewers were conscience of at the time. People didn't even bring it up until she got suspended last month.

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>>44891905
>SEAniggers still obsessed with stock prices despite being told why the stock price is like that and how it is completely normal
Why are SEAniggers incapable of learning?

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>>44892473
>mentions romhacks once (one (1 (singular)) time) on her 2nd day in the company
>Zaion never learned SHIT

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>>44892525
That says more about blacks than Enna or management.

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>>44892596
She mentioned emulation more than once as well. In the FFXIV that got privated she mentioned using emulators to play games but Japan is not a fan of the idea of emulators for old video games (i.e Nintendo), and consider it piracy.
You can disagree with it but they are the ones who make the rules

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>>44892607
Now I can tell you're a retarded woman when everyone who doesn't go along with your shilling must be a pagpag

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>>44892333
>Still randomly circulating the lie of antisemitism as a reason for termination because her fans were calling themselves Zaionists as a play on words with no ill intent.
These people really are dishonest scum.

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>>44886658
You guys may just be shitposting about all this but the way Niji and several of the members are handling this employee termination has genuinely left a bad enough taste in my mouth to just stop watching them altogether. The last thing I want from entertainment streamers is this kind of shit.

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>>44892653
Not my intention, I worded it badly.
What I wanted to say, Zaion had mild yabs. Other talent make their brand out of being the edgy one.

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>>44892653
Leave my niggas alone, Enna.

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>>44892687
That's a given. There are no male die hard nijisanji fans left. If you see a person going out of their to play anykara internet defense force on the internet for free just assume it's a bitch with brain problems and a Kanae shrine.

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>>44892333
>pedophillic
Ignoring the fact that that's not a word. Do they know Enna's an actual kiddy diddler?
https://streamable.com/2qgth0

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>>44893240
Pretty sure no one picked up on that and the vod was axed.

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>>44893240
wtf

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>>44892333
why the hell did they censor "anti"? I guess they have PTSD from people calling them one or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44892687
t. assmad SEAnigger
Go choke on the pagpag or gutter oil and stop wasting my time

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>>44893713
I wish there were flags and IDs on this board so I could shove my American flag up your roastie cunt.

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>>44886709
I picked Niji because Holo has yet to have a gyaru.
Not just the EN gyaru, but the JP one as well. and I like the one in vspo too.
I'll follow Holo when they get a gyaru and no, Flare and Polka aren't gyarus.

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>>44893432
The vod wasn't axed, it's right here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv-7Jzz6mos
Happens at about 2:28:00.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44893822
Oh yeah you're about as American as the next flip/indog, stop larping and go make your mom some gutter oil chicken you worthless SEAnigger

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>>44893240
Considering the extreme reaction of the other girls, Enna must have been molesting the kid in some manner or he was naked.

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>>44893915
You've run so out of juice that you need to strawman everyone who disagrees with you into a boogeyman to sling ad hominem at. KWAB, people like you are the reason nijiEN is crashing and burning. Enjoy your sinking ship.

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>>44894030
Most likely naked. Kids have a hard time keeping their clothes on and girls find it cute and funny.
If you ever actually know like any chick who's babysat toddlers kids are fucking retarded and take off their clothes at any chance they get. This behavior lasts until they're like 7 or 8.

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>>44894095
Was that even English, SEAnigger? Why don't you speak to me in your native gobbledygook and try again.

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>>44893240
>not a word
That's just a misspelling (one extra L).
But that clip... I thought it was gonna be bullshit, but wtf. Definitely raising an eyebrow here. Highly suspect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44893915
What's with nijitroons and calling everyone a jungle nigger? Half of your fanbase and a quarter of your livers are SEAniggers of some sort.

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>>44894191
Sure, but context matters. A trusted family babysitter taking a naked pic that the parents don't mind isn't a big deal, but a foreign teacher at the state mandated school saving a naked picture of her "favorite student" actually is unprofessional as fuck, legal or not. Not that I ever expect professionalism from Enna, but still.

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>>44894449
Leftoids are racist as fuck anon when they perceive you as an enemy.

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>>44894449
Because it's the truth. You know this catalogue is infested with SEAniggers like you, otherwise you wouldn't get so hurt over me pointing it out.

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>>44894191
Would still be illegal since it ain't her kid.

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>>44894593
Oh I don't disagree but Enna is fucking retarded. I'm just clarifying that it was probably a naked kid who made Enna laugh because he wouldn't fucking keep his clothes on during school and women like those annoying kids who are retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44894715
I'm not saying it wasn't I'm just saying that women are obsessed with kids who strip and little boys are notorious for doing so up until they're semi mature and capable of understanding that clothes aren't going to kill them

[Anonymous No.]

>>44894879
>that clothes aren't going to kill them
Fucking liar. How much is big clothes paying you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44894449
The brown SEAnig is like the ideal "ugly, poor, beta male" to fujos. Women are notorious for using strawmen arguments to frame groups of people and then put someone they don't like into that frame to dismiss arguments or opinions. That's just what's happening here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44894688
>You know this catalogue
It's catalog in American, you ESL jungle nigger retard. Really, why are you doing this to yourself? Mysta, Millie, Hex and Finana would be sad about your self hating ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44894688
It's true but it's infested cause of you Nijisisters

[Anonymous No.]

>>44894688
kek you're the only one in this conversation that sounds hurt, hence why you are the one turning to baseless insults at anonymous strangers over the internet who don't agree with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44895282
You're really gonna act like "SEAnigger" wasn't a common insult on this board before NijiEN got its sisters?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886658

The only ones worth watching is Pomu, Maria and maybe Selen if they play Dark and Darker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44895529
Of course it was but it's framing actual, confirmed seanigs we see and interact with. Not just calling every random person on the board who disagrees with us a seanig.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44895529
Calling a random schizo SEAnigger and claiming that SEAniggers disproportionally dislike Nijisanji are different things, especially considering that Anykara suits themselves say that most of their overseas fanbase are not red blooded Americans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44895529
Never post my oshi again, tranny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44894760
I'm sorry but that is still super fucking weird to do as a teacher even if she didn't mean anything "sus" with it. And she kept that photo all this time too. I wonder how the parents would react if they found out a school teacher was holding and sharing a naked picture of their kid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44895932
That was my first post in the reply chain, retard. Good taste, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44891116
>Zaion *checks notes* falsely claimed to be sponsored by RAID: Shadow Legends
no one said anything abou raid shit, only zaion stans did, not the company or anyone else

[Anonymous No.]

>>44887785
A lack of respect and professionalism is what reeks in NijiEN. I've never seen a branch so mismanaged. Heads got to roll at the management wing for this dumpster fire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896125
>not the company
yeah they just worded it to make it seem like it could be about anything hoping nobody actually watched her and could call them out on it.
She made TWO (count 'em) jokes about sponsorships total.
One was a "sponsored by deez nuts" joke
The other was a "sponsored by Raid" joke. People assume it's the raid one because it's retarded but less retarded than including the fucking deez nuts joke in a termination notice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44892783
Can't speak for other anons, but this was the straw that broke the camel's back for me too. I still like a the last 3 I just left, but I'm not willing to give the company money and attention even for them
Hoping they go indie eventually so I can start watching them again

[Anonymous No.]

>>44887785
I know this is going into the void but I'll comment on it anyway because why not.
Oceane got the exact same treatment as Zaion. Both by management and by fans of the other girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896429
they didnt say anything about this being ON STREAM

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896125
When else did she "falsely claim to be sponsored by a brand during a stream" which Anykara listed as a reason for termination? Don't tell me it was the Dee's Nuts joke instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44895346
>How new
It's catalogue. Even in America. We just can't spell shit properly. Don't even deny that moustache looks way better on the eyes than mustache.
Like taking away ou and ue was the worst thing Americans ever did to the English language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896497
only hololive exists outside of nijisanji, didnt you know?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896501

[Anonymous No.]

One thing I'm tired of reading is "But Zaion deserved to get fired".

Yes, so? That's not the fucking point. The point is that having a company go full "You will never work on this town again!" is complete bullshit and also anti-labor, and being fine with it does make you a corporate bootlicker.

"But they didn't specify with Yugo and people were mad about it". Tough fucking shit, the fandom needs to learn to fucking deal. Only thing this has convinced me is that NijiEN management is a bunch of incompetents only concerned about covering their own asses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44895952
I won't say it's not super weird I'm just telling you that Enna is retarded and probably found the image funny because she's a woman and women find the idea of little kids stripping constantly funny as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896501
What the fuck is this supposed to mean then? You niijiniggers will really make up any lie to defend your precious Pajeet managers, won't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896608
anti-labor when you post on alt right forum

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896608
She kinda started it by using her Sayu account to like posts that are basically like "fuck Nijisanji."

Talk shit, get hit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896501
holy shit you people are psycho liars. why the fuck does your company hate her so much you go out of your way to pull this shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>44891198
>Don't start trouble and remain professional.

Truly, a Herculean task for the ages!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44887785
The closest thing I've seen to this kind of behaviour in Hololive was Artia assuring her fans that she supported them harassing Coco back during the Taiwan fiasco, and that eventually resulted in Hololive nuking their entire CN branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44897063
Noooooo holocn never existed!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rushia rushia, no branch was ever closed, artia never existed!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44893915
Hey buddy, Niji EN literally have like 5 Filthypinos, show some respect to your beloved orgy fuckfest of a company, you fucking racist cunt

[Anonymous No.]

>>44897063
Well, except that holo fans blamed CN antis and not the talents. Even Artia didn't get much hate, people coped by saying she was just trying to placate her angry CN audience.

[Anonymous No.]

Doxsisters say zaion is literally the second coming of andrew tate desu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44890698
same vibes:
https://youtu.be/_fHfgU8oMSo

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896995
Imagine being a big corpo and being petty like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896945
you're so cool anon you're the only free-thinker everyone else here is a conservative NP- i mean, uhh, chud nobody else could have different political beliefs you're the only one

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896945
Western vtubing is so fucked that /vt/ is the only place you can publicly go, “Is it me or is the way they’re characterizing Zaion’s firing complete overkill?” and not be assumed to be…excusing pedophilia or whatever the fuck it is people are making up about her. Frankly, I think the fact you have to choose sides (either stay silent and agree with the twitter mob or come /here/ to this cesspool to complain about it) and get exposed to political bullshit either way is why vtubing is dying in the west.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896995
They kinda started it by setting off a hatemob on her for "inappropriate jokes" in the initial notice.
Kyo kinda started it by liking posts talking shit about her and doxxers on his PL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896945

So did you.

>>44896995

"But she hurt management's feelings". Again, so? "She was being unprofessional so we can do it too!". Grow up. One side has more power on this situation, so of course more things are expected from the side with most power, which is the company. Starting with the fact that she can't answer to all the smearing unless she's willing to eat a lawsuit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44891623
Based and true,

[Anonymous No.]

>>44890335
sounds like sana was a nijimpostor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44897275
>people coped by saying she was just trying to placate her angry CN audience.
I can't imagine such nuanced observations ever be given to NijiENs.
Elira's "you're not my friend" thing is proof that one yab, no matter how small, is enough for /vt/rannies to think you're poisoned for life regardless of your efforts to make up for it.

With these vultures flying about, no wonder they'd be transparent about their controversial actions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44897726
Again, NijiEN management seem to struggle at the concept of being a formal fucken department of a professional company. Fire these shmucks for fumbling this hard.

[Anonymous No.]

We have to realize that even more important than the talent, is the management. Hololive has something that cannot be replicated with Yagoo. Dude even nuked an entire branch to protect his girls. I think having Sora be the first Hololiver also plays a role. She sets an example for everyone joining the company and is free of all scandals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44897618
Meanwhile, everyone bashes her for doing the exact same shit as kyo, like JESAS, how do people still defend this shit company

[Anonymous No.]

You legit don't see any proper corpo putting out reasons for firing someone. They just put said person is leaving the organization or step down from their position.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44897837
Well, except there are plenty of cases of holomembers getting that scrutiny like Mori, Ollie, Kronii. They set clear boundaries for the content they'll do that alienates some people into hating them and might hurt viewership but that hate is contained to places like /vt/ and doesn't spread to twitter. Ironically, all the hate on Twitter about people like Mori come from envious people who don't even watch vtubers to begin with who just dunk on her singing and past.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896995
She was already fired by that point retard, after all the shit her coworkers did behind her back who wouldn't do the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44898042
Same happens in the real world unless it's actual real awful shit like rape etc. Most companies give the opportunity for a public figure who fucks up bad to willingly retire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886658
I used to watch nijien and I was getting back to watching them despite their yabs. Now that they showed how subhuman they could actually be, I'm never going to watch them ever again. Its hard to watch them without having any controversy come to mind.
After what had happened, I deleted my watch history of anything related to nijis and spammed 'not interested' or 'don't recommend channel' whenever one comes up to my homepage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896995
So Kyo is getting fired as well right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44898311
Well to be fair Zaion raped Hex. And also made fun of Raid Shadow Legends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44897862
i've always found it weird and offputting how the other girls treat and put soda on a pedestal, but holy FUCK you are completely right, she is the most incorruptible being in all of vtubing, she is the goddess of hololive and all vtubers should strive to be rrat free like soda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44897862
>Dude even nuked an entire branch to protect his girls.
I'm sure HoloCN felt very protected.
Or did they not count as "his girls?"
>>44898270
>after all the shit her coworkers did
Like talking to and trying to help her to make her reconsider her constant rule-breaking? With that effort having fallen on deaf ears, no wonder they're pissed at her.
Acting like a victim doesn't mean you are one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44898635
Yagoo had to make the decision to nuke holoCN which wasn't very profitable to begin with or have CN antis in every girls' stream who ever interacted with or showed praise for Coco or Haachama until EoS. It was inevitable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44898635
Only one side of the story from the company and the livers, have you consider she is being bullied?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44888378
I didn't know he killed the admin

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine defending a pedophile shotacon like Zaion

[Anonymous No.]

>>44898857
The last time I thought a Niji was being bullied, it turned out she was an unironic menhera fighting enemies in her mind.
Her name was Meiro.

Since then, I've been convinced that Nijisanji doesn't tolerate in-company bullying and that if you get on their bad side, there's something wrong with YOU.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44899150
So I guess Luna is secretly a massive menhera asshole who's a massive danger to everyone around her and I have Sasaki to thank for her departure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44898943
Go back to Twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>44899150
What was wrong with Yugo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44899306
Nigga, Moruruna's departure was peaceful.
>>44899351
We don't know and apparently that's a good thing because, as some in this thread said, "transparency bad."

[Anonymous No.]

>>44899517
>We don't know
What do you think was wrong enough with Yugo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44899517
Because your garbage company didn't even give her a chance to speak for herself. She literally got murdered and had her "friends" prancing around her dead body shortly after when she was barred from any public activity and got her mouth plastered shut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44898943
As any otaku would. Attacking a vtuber for liking such content already outs you as a tourist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44899150
Your mistake is thinking jp management has anything to do with the en branch.
We already know they (en) has a bullying problem thanks to the group chat stream that 'got too real' for pomu.
besides no company being competently run would allow hex to do the shit he's doing. it's a walking legal landmine on top of a me too scandal waiting to happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886900
>bro my MH PORTABLE THIRD tho
>go away snoylent green I have 4 Ultimate, cry about it

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijisanji
>infamous for cliques and bullying
>start up a whole new branch
>a fresh chance to avoid the mistakes of JP
>it somehow ends up even worse

Jesus Christ what the fuck are you doing Tazoomi

[Anonymous No.]

>>44899944
>We already know they (en) has a bullying problem thanks to the group chat stream that 'got too real' for pomu.
I'm pretty sure it "got too real" for her because it reminded her of /vt/, not Niji's own discords.
If anything the "all out war" leak shows that they get along there. I won't deny the possibility that things might've changed since, but to claim they have a "bullying problem" is a stretch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886658
>see nijisanji in recommended
>click three dots
>not interested
Simple as. Good luck with your fujo fanbase going forward.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886900
How old are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44890218
>NijiEN used to be good until Eytheria or whatever the fuck debuted and spread the numbers thin.
This. Unlike what tribalfags would like you to believe, I remember clearly when Lazusydia were held in high regard and seen as genuine alternatives to HoloMyth. That went down drain in a single wave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44900188
What were the mistakes of JP? I think about the worst thing Anycolor has done is shitting out a million vtubers in short succession without any kind of parachute for the previous ones and making it virtually impossible to promote them all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44890921
>Finana
Of fucking course she wouldn't go against the grain. Why is this retarded fish so easily swayed

[Anonymous No.]

>>44900422
Anon do you not know how to read or are you retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>44900373
Can't be younger than 20 if you were going to school with kids bringing their vitas in. That thing was pretty much dead within a couple of years globally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44900551
How am I supposed to interpret "fresh chance to avoid the mistakes of JP", that implies there were mistakes from the JP branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44900660
Pretty sure he meant the
>infamous for cliques and bullying
bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44900660
he spelled it out right in his post you drooling retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>44900710
You say bullshit but over the years Nijisanji keeps drowning in stupid drama almost as if holobronies are closer to the truth than you are. Judge them by their fruits and all that.

[Anonymous No.]

Should've jumped ship right when Pomu introduced you to a better entertainer. This is on you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44900905
anon the same exact shit happens in hololive, the difference is the fans don't turn the landmines that get stepped on into escalating drama that boils over into the company. Mori does way more shit on a weekly or monthly basis that would have people crying on twitter if she were in Nijisanji EN. It's not the talents, it's the audience that puts those standards onto the talents and then management enforces it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44897275
>Even Artia didn't get much hate
bullshit. she got a lot of hate on twitter, youtube and reddit to the point of an entire document and even doxx of her real face

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901157
And rightfully done. It's one thing to fuck over people for her own personal ambitions but that judas bitch fucking turned on coco and holo out of pure jingoism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901068
I'm pretty sure holofags had a spergout about Pekora's periods and nijiniggers laughed about insane holo incels the whole week last year. Nothing came out of it just like any other holo meltdown. Meanwhile you can hardly name a month when somebody isn't graduating or is put on hiatus and spergs out about the company on a personal account in Nijisanji.
And are you actually trying to make Zaion's termination about their management enforcing the audience's wishes when most people don't give a shit about a single thing listed in the reasoning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901068
Name three things Mori’s done that’s even on the same level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44899873
Who are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44900234
It's been a while since I've watched the archive of pomu's minecraft stream she did after that but I recall her elaborating that her coworkers got too good at their roles, so no it wasn't because it 'reminded her of /vt/'
The thing about that stream is that for the first half it was just a tame mockery of /vt/, but the tone shifted partway through. the insults got nastier and they started focusing primarily on the newer waves and then went on to start having shots at Pomu and her 3d live specifically.
Maybe it was just banter, maybe not. It definitely hurt pomu regardless and the entire stream left this unsavoury feeling in my gut.
I've seen enough streamers and youtubers in my time who raised red flags turn out to be actual monsters and evil cunts, I'm not giving nijisanji en the benefit of the doubt when things have been smelling off for over a year now and recent events involving zaion align with the bad smell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901373
No I'm saying the management pays way too much attention to crying whores on twitter. There was virtually no backlash within Zaion's actual chat and viewers over anything she ever did. It came from other niji viewers of other members spamming on Twitter and causing drama. You can't compare unicorns on /vt/ sperging out to thousands of lunatics on Twitter in more public social media. it's not even comparable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901579
Still hope that Pomu is not in league with those, NijiEN doesn't have enough good streamers for Selen to collab with as it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901421
Same level as what? If it's Zaion's reasons for termination then talking about emulators, talking shit on her private accounts, doing a Persona begging stream that caused some retards to go and harass Atlus on Cover's behalf. That's off the top of my head from the first couple of months after debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901579
I think that what happens when too many people debut at once. It turns into a “me vs them” thing to see who can stand out. With smaller groups, it takes on a “we all sink or swim” kind of thing so everybody really cares for each other. Either that or everyone in NijiEn really are just snakes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901421
All of her past just before becoming a vtuber being brought up to show she's racist. Getting caught having swinger orgies with large content creators. Openly being shotacon like Zaion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901620
It wasn't "unicorns on /vt/", it was a full scale JP fanbase meltdown. They actually went so full fucking retard that general public was wondering why period tracking software was trending on Japanese twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901786
Wait, how is she racist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901579
>got too good at their roles
So, you mean that they reminded her of /vt/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901786
And yet Mori isn't thrown under the bus by either Myth or management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901421
We both know that this question is just bait so you can report people. We also both know the answer to this question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901881
Her old songs used to have a lot of racial themes in them and she went under aliases like yung shinigami boi and the like while using stereotypical black accents, also throwing out nigger every other word in her tweets. People with critical thinking skills will understand there's not really problem, your average nijiEN fan would not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44902009
Yeah, that's the point

[Anonymous No.]

>>44902242
Oh sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>44902184
That’s not racism, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44902369
Tell that to a 15yo they/them on twitter. That's like 1/3 of NijiEN fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44902369
I agree, but twitter zoomer women would disagree and that's a good chunk of the nijiEN viewerbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886658
I just stopped watching nijisanji. Phaseconnect and idolcorp have outstanding talents, more ppl should try tuning in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901360
then dont lie about it, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901786
On the topic of the shota thing, you can see the stark difference in reaction and zoomer terminology when she revealed it to her fans vs what happens when holo members(or nijiJP) brings up the topic of loli or shota.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901950
either you or the first anon who you're backing up is missing the distinction between 'being in an environment like /vt/ basically gave me ptsd' and 'my coworkers shitting on me was far too authentic' that I was making.
the latter is what happened and is why it's a sign of a bully problem. the stream had stopped being about mocking /vt/ through repeating what was said /here/ in a condescending way and had become a chance to start throwing real hatred and bile at a coworker they normally don't get the chance to directly confront like that in a setting where she couldn't even defend herself.
I wouldn't be remotely surprised if there is a massive clique within nijien formed and led by enna and millie and the clique members highly resent and seethe at pomu who as an og lazu adored by everyone is basically untouchable and doesn't have to bow to their influence. it's a fairly common workplace dynamic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44890988
No, iirc she said months ago on stream that she finds the familyposting on twitter kinda cringe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44891198
EN management must be full of chink women, chinks and women can grudge-holding, vengeful fucks on their own, imagine being both
It's literally not hard to just not speak up and let things pass but here we are

[Anonymous No.]

>>44903380
CN are definitely grudge bearers, but they also completely hate and shit on woke viewpoints to the death. They would crash the entire nijiEN enterprise into the ground before caving to Western zoomers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44903234
>she finds the familyposting on twitter kinda cringe
Based?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44903234
she never said that

[Anonymous No.]

>>44903380
EN management is all japanese you massive retard, you can see it on linkedin.They all work in anycolor in Japan. the only overseas are staff members

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886658
Zaion (a bitch): Almost loses several perms that could affect the whole company.
Incels: poor bby.

Zaion: Laundry list of repreensible shit for evry company
/here/: She is based. Others in the company did the same or worse.

Conclusion: Everyone in niji is based

[Anonymous No.]

>>44904207
black company. Kyo in particular will get his come upence and I know how miserable it will make you

[Anonymous No.]

>>44904207
Anyone using the word "incel" in their arguments is already outing themself as the exact type of person getting shit on in threads like this for ruining nijiEN's image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44904207
They would be based if they owned it. So I guess Luca is based since his laundry list would be at least half as long and he never apologized for anything but others are cringe because they go and grovel at the first opportunity. Still won't watch him though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44890335
>sana reveals she's perfectly healthy and the backhorts was all fake,
She said she's perfectly HAPPY. Also, have you ever considered that you're looking at it the wrong way entirely? It's not that Sana lied about being injured, it's N*m*e lying about being healthy, because she doesn't want to lose work. She even said that 'gossip' could be harmful to her job, because contractors aren't going to hire you for a job if you have 'fans' constantly going "OMG NO DON'T WORK I DON'T WANT YOU TO DIE BECAUSE YOU'LL DEFINITELY DIE IF YOU WORK UUUUUU".

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886658
the sad part is that nijis are easy to bash. holos are controlled and professional for the most part and nijis are left alone to play as regular streamers which is far more chaotic and makes yabs easier to happen and management intrusions are magnified since they rarely do much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44890536
>>44891290
Funny thing is, it's not like EN side of youtube never had this kind of experience. Content houses. Old stuff but you probably know about it. Why was, may Allah forgive me, Funhaus good? Because they at least pretended to be friends. The moment people see any kind of bitching and backstabbing your audience will start leaving. Why would you allow this shit? Just tardwrangle your employees.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886658
Everything went yo shit when Luxiem debuted and attracted the korean pop idol fandom from Twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44903134
That's way too schizo for me. They get along with Pomu just fine and it's clear to me that they like her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44904759
Proper talent vetting and tard wranglers are needed. Instead they probably hired DEI trainers as managers or some shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886900
I had a PS Vita you fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>44905018
>Hololive’s UNITY is just the same corporate strategy as fleshtuber content houses, but adapted for weeb culture
It would be kind of funny if NijiEN ditched this ethos under the assumption that it’s “idolshit”, only for it to turn out that HoloEN follows basic fleshtubing meta to sustain their success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44905396
Sounds like you're the faggot here, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886658
If you looked at NijiEN and their fanbase objectively, you could see that it was a dumpster fire waiting to happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44905396
I'm so sorry anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>44892473
Pomu used a hacked 3DS for MONTHS, and literally nothing happened to her. And before that one retard says his usual spiel, no, Nintendo wouldn't give them fucking CFW permissions. They might turn a blind eye to Capture Cards, but they would NEVER allow Custom Firmware, because it allows fucking piracy. This is the same Nintendo who fucking STALKED SOMEBODY to get them to stop hacking. This is the same Nintendo who got japanese laws changed, just to try and stop CFW.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44905566
Nintendo kneel to Elira clique

[Anonymous No.]

>>44905416
Or they can lean into it and turn Nijisanji into WWE shit with jobbers, feuds and shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>44905343
>dei trainers
nigga this has nothing to do with your sjs brainrot. they're all pajeets or japanese without any real understanding of the EN market so they overreact when anything happens since each manager has like a dozen people to tardwrangle and have favorites and need snitches to keep track of what everyone is doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886658
I said it in the unperson'd thread but I'll say it again. At the end of the day this is why I don't want to see any further collabs between hololive and nijien. Pomu is basically the only likable one in that shit fest so her I can let slide but the rest of those fucking snakes would just be a stain on hololive and I'm hoping holo management realizes it and never allows collabs with anyone but pomu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44905303
You don't even need to hear it from me anon you can hear it from the fairy herself.
https://youtu.be/4Ej9Rn3_Xjs?t=712
shouldn't be surprising that having your coworkers impersonate antis live on stream is an unsettling proposition for some people.
anyway I'll clarify I'm not saying there's this massive group of people in nijisanji who secretly hate pomu, she's almost universally adored for good reason. I'm just saying you should keep in mind her unique position puts her above office politics and that always pisses off the troublemakers in workplaces. we know for a fact there's at least two of those types in nijisanji en, one of them being the very same person who derailed millie's original concept to turn it into an anti impersonation stream.

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>>44906227
I'd bring up Hanlon's razor, but that would mean there's a question whether they're malicious or stupid, and the stupidity pervading NijiEN is a goddamn fact.

You can -assume- they're these malicious snakes or crabs in a bucket, but you -know- that they're really fucking dumb. It makes more sense to attribute their actions to something that they are, not what they might be.

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>>44907492
Idiocy does not excuse the crime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44907698
No, but intent is important.
It's easier to forgive someone who never meant to hurt anyone than someone who hurts people on purpose and feels no remorse.

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>>44892558
How do we know it's pagpag eaters?
And they act like they came from /pol/ which discards them as trash. Are they that self-hating? Is this why they lash out on fucking vtubers of all things? Holy shit they're no different from woke twitter.

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>>44896995
Her Streamlabs was already deleted by that time. She was essentially fired already. Adding this into the termination notice was just petty as hell.

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>>44906227
I know Enna can be toxic and is an influence on Millie, but I don't see that stream being created to shit on Pomu.
>not saying there's a large group who secretly hates Pomu
could have thought so from your last comment, but ok

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>>44891794
wait they where seriouse? Hold the fuck up. I thought they where posting that shit as some exercise in cringe kino?
>>44896945
And hitler was the first to instituted mandatory paid vacation in germany. You're allowed to assemble political views in more than 2 stacks.

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>>44905711
Actually an interesting idea but I don't think any agency would take the risk of making a generation that needs to pretend to hate each other and be extremely competitive, you'd need one of them to be a referee too.

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>>44886900
>holobronies are toddlers
checked by dubs

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>>44905566
I'm not sure if they would turn a blind eye to capture cards. Wasn't katsukitty basically driven out of business? The actual parts are still being sold sans installation by the manufacturer but I always assumed it was because he didn't setup a physical store.

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>>44908490
Pagpag eaters and chinks are the majority of NijiEN fanbase according to their own management so you are more likely to be one than anyone shitting on nijizhangji. Don't even get me started on NijiEN fanbase and woke twitter.

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>>44909021
Nijisanji probably worked out a deal with Nintendo to allow them to use modified devices for video capture, because NijiJP has been streaming 3DS games for years, way before NijiEN existed.

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>>44909253
God imagine if they just handed out the dev kits with video out capability.

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>>44897812
more like she took the chinese gacha pill

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>>44908717
>wait they where seriouse?
They were probably serious during the Lazusydia era. The six girls were getting along better than Myth or Council ever did.
Since then the amount of people in NijiEN grew six-fold and now you have anything from pairs of BFFs to people who barely know each other.

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>>44898635
>I'm sure HoloCN felt very protected.
chinks aren't people

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>>44908312
Well if that's the case, Kyo definitely has malicious intent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44891376
You’re forgetting when they reported Mio to Capcom, who proceeded to nearly kill her channel with copyright strikes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44912357
Wow

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>>44897275
Artia, just like zaion, unironically deserved to be disliked. It makes me sad to say it but there are people out there who genuinely abuse the privileges that they're handed and I'll never get why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44914313
Don't you dare compare Artia to Zaion.

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>>44914546
They're unironically not that different. The only reason that the catalog sides with zaion is because
>NIJISANJI BADDDDD!!!!!
Everyone who has talked about Zaion in the company basically says she was trouble.
Artia also stirred the pot against Coco and was actively working on getting antis riled up.
Both had good models but were menhera bitches.

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>>44915070
And yet we have no proof that she actually stirred the pot other than not bowing down to management. Meanwhile, Artia is a CCP drone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886658
I'll still watch some of the cleaner Nijis, no need to shame actually good VTubers for having bad luck with auditions.

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>>44915190
Literally everyone who has talked about her including people who considered her a friend have all said that she did almost everything in her power to be a cunt.
You can either choose to believe that
>everyone who worked with her is totally lying and that only the catalog knows what she was actually like!!
or you can realize that 99% of these people in the catalog didn't even watch her and just take her side because
>le black company!!!!!!

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>>44915436
Yeah. No. I don't believe the lying cunts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44915511
>Everyone says she's an unlikable cunt
>"s-surely everyone is lying! I mean I never watched her but...uhhhh... nijisanji is bad mkay?!"
You're unironically more retarded than dramaniggers and redditors. I feel bad for you.
Please don't have children. This is the last response I'll give you. Kill yourself, unironically.
t.former zaimon

[Anonymous No.]

>>44915511
>"I don't like what they're saying, so they're lying!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886658
Holofags were right in the end but only after the 3rd wave for NijiEN came around.

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>>44915649
>>44915675
This situation is a 100% on Blacksanji. Fuck off back to twitter.

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>>44915070
Things Zaion said in over a month:
>hinted at reincarnating on her previous life account the moment she was suspended and harassed by nijitroons
>said she is playing Hogwarts and talked about it in her twitch chat after the termination notice
She also liked comments shitting on Niijisanji I guess but likes on private accounts is really not something Nijifags should be bringing up right now.
Feel free to cite Nijisanji EN livers calling her a cunt and not just repeating the same drivel about trying to tech her how to be a proper corporate chuuba and respect the rules and her just refusing to listen unlike others who made mistakes but got their life on track.

>>44915649
Post membership.

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>>44915649
>everyone said they loved and support her
>turn around and now say they hate her
typical backstabbing bitches

[Anonymous No.]

>>44901786
>Getting caught having swinger orgies with large content creators

ayo source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44915865
>Feel free to cite Nijisanji EN livers calling her a cunt
Implying you aren't going to just turn around and say "See, they hated her and wanted her GONE!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>44915901
Everyone loved artia too anon, funny how things change when the truth comes out.

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>>44915797
>No argument

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>>44916115
Implying you are going to cite anything. Post membership.

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>>44916176
lol which holojp talked shit about artia anon
>can't name a single one
>classic niji deflection

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886658
This entire post but swap out niji with vshojo

[Anonymous No.]

>>44916206
Indeed you've provided no argument so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>44886709
LMAO Nijis have 10x more fun streams. HoloEN is a complete joke. HoloJP is great but if you are unironically a HoloEN "fan" you are fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44916229
>one of zaion's 6 fans
lmaoo

unmember maria right fucking now cretin

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>>44916261
They gave 0 fucks about her graduation and it really showed. I remember back in the day I was actually a bit upset that nobody really cared and everyone was too busy talking about Coco but then the truth came out about just what a cunt artia was, I was honestly amazed.

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>>44916458
I did in case you didn't notice. Consider another penis haver successfully filtered from the fanbase, sister.

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>>44916475
it was better that way anon. people were really riled up and out for blood because of the coco shit. there was tons of roomate posting but the artia stuff was forgotten pretty quickly after they graduated
unlike here where nutjobs are dragging it out and posting dox on twitter every 10 times an hour even after she is already gone

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>>44916475
Bro a lot of people didn't even know who Artia was. Most people only knew Civia because her Youtube debut was big news.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44916229
>Buying the membership of a tranny supporter
LOL
LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>44887785
>All the hatred on Rushia didn't happen
This dumb cat is working as a corporate drone, for free!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44916810
Which Holo shat on Rushia after her termination?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44916718
What can I say? I wish I never were a nijifag in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44916810
nowhere near the unbridled vitriol she's been getting from the company talents

[Anonymous No.]

>>44916854
She was a tranny supporter before joining Niji, so she was never worth supporting

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>>44916229
I didn't have an opportunity to member, I was going to once she got rid of the $10 vod tier but then she kept privating vods and I figured I'd give her a bit of time to settle down a bit more. I did superchat her frequently though. This was the last one I was able to send. it was on a stream of FFXIV. I had to look through my emails to find the receipts.

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>>44916848
Flare iirc, people were speculating that might have gotten doxxed during the whole menhera having a breakdown and sharing info she shouldn't thing. I could be remembering wrong and it was Noel though.

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>>44916606
Well and like I said. It turned out that artia was a cunt anyways so I'm not sad they gave no fucks about her graduation, she unironically deserved Less than that. She was a cunt behind the scenes who actively worked to cause problems and treated people like playthings.

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>>44917116
stop being so damn hateful anon. yeah there was good room to believe she was a cunt but it doesn't make your life any better to be happy someone is getting doxxed by a bunch of mentally ill freaks. ccp dick rider is already a miserable enough life

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>>44917100
I also remember there was a JP member who basically said they weren't sad she was gone. The catalog tried to start a shit load of drama with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44917237
It's ok when Holos do it

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>>44917286
>"I'm not sad that she's gone"
VS
>>44887785

You pathetic Nijifag, there is no equivalence.

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>>44917539
And yet, the one who said "I wish I could say I wish her luck but I can't" is the one getting shit on the most by holofaggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>44917705
It's not holofaggots claiming that everyone in NiijEN has called her a cunt and comparing her to Artia based off that in an attempt to damage control.

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>>44917539
Kotoka literally said
>I don't know if I can wish her well at this point
And catalogniggers have been shitting up her comments section ever since.
Finana literally said
>She lied to me. She apologized and then kept doing the same things she apologized for.
And catalogniggers were like
>REEEEEEEEE SHES LYING TOO!!!!
the worst thing that anyone has said about her publicly is Hex who said
>I was sexually assaulted at one point so her comments didn't sit well with me
Literally every single one of these statements is on par with
>I'm not sad she's gone

If you can unironically explain to me what is so drastically different about these comments I'd love to hear it.

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>>44917874
I don't know what you're even talking about. All I know is that it's OK when a Holo says "I'm not sad that she's gone", but it's not OK when a Niji says "I wish I could say I wish her luck but I can't".

[Anonymous No.]

>>44896497
who

[Anonymous No.]

>>44917899
>>44917237
what jp memeber said that and whats the full context? Are we making shit up again?

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>>44918238
I wanna say it was flare but I can't remember for certain. It's probably in the catalogue. There were constant threads about what a bitch she was for not being more upset.
I remember for certain it was someone in her gen too which made it worse. So I'm fairly certain it was flare.

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>>44917874
anon these people are lying to you, I don't remember ANY jp member being rude or saying about Rushia. The worst is flare made a joke about them being smaller now but never actually shat on her.
>>44918356
dishonest just like the rest of your blackcompany
https://animecorner.me/vtubers-react-to-uruha-rushias-termination-from-hololive/
the treatment is completely different. In fact even the illustrator came out and asked people to leave it alone and not go after anyone, which niji has failed to do while zaion get's doxxed

[Anonymous No.]

>>44908597
the stream was obviously about shitting on /vt/ from the start but the tone shifted really fast when someone started shitting on other niji waves, and when they saw someone else start the others followed suit instead of reeling it back in

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>>44918042
I'm not surprised that a nijifag can't read the thread and just replies to random posts with "b-but holo". I have seen this shit every day since May 2021.
>it's OK when a Holo says "I'm not sad that she's gone", but it's not OK when a Niji says "I wish I could say I wish her luck but I can't".
The difference is the former is assumed to (unintentionally) getting doxxed by the talent in question while the latter watched the talent in question getting doxxed and decided that she had a moral high ground on her because she did an apology stream to twitter troons as soon as she said a gamer. In the mentioned apology stream she pretended that she is a silly Jap woman who doesn't know no English. She also claimed that she is simply better than Zaion because she is capable of learning but somehow made a similar mistake recently. What a conundrum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44917899
the entire branch airing out grievances. No one saying not to harass her after all the dox threads.
Finana acting like a victim "i was gaslight" are you serious lmao
completely disrespectful

[Anonymous No.]

>>44918665
>It's disrespectful to your fired coworker to say that they weren't a good person
Are you a nigger by chance?

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>>44917237
It wasn't what any of the JP girls said but that a lot of them showed no sadness about Rushia getting fired, which made people think that she must had done something really bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44918717
ironic coming from a nijifag who spends his entire day hating someone he never watched, over jokes and "lies" that he will never know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44918768
Maybe that was it. I just fully remember the catalog being on fire for two to three days with threads constantly shitting on either flare or noel for not having a reaction to rushias firing and even twitterfags started to get uppity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44918845
You could have spared some characters there by saying "yes. How did you know"

[Anonymous No.]

>>44918881
>Makes up bullshit, gets proved wrong
>uh actually it is still a big deal because...uh twitter
Classic, you fit right in with a black company

[Anonymous No.]

>>44918641
>Fatal mistake
What? Giving her piece on a wavemate's termination?

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>>44919074
I don't know if it was bullshit or not. I remember the catalog constantly posting about how she was hated by some member of her gen.
I remember one of the dramaniggers also made a video about it, I wanna say the was the depressed one.
Then people made threads about the video and then people told those people to fuck off and stop shilling him.

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>>44918768
>Holo does something bad
>Gets terminated
>No fellow Holo is sad about it
>"Well, it is what it is."

>Niji does something bad
>Gets terminated
>No fellow Niji is sad about it
>"Wow, these heartless Nijiniggers."

[Anonymous No.]

>>44917705
Holoshitters have no shame.

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>>44919417
You are really fumbling here. people in the catalog were upset that the girls did not appear to be upset, none of the jp girls made ANY disparaging remarks during the termination. kson said some stuff down the line but that was different
meanwhile blackcompany boot lickers are excusing and even saying it is deserved when livers bringing up all this petty shit after someone is gone.

if you were trying to make a point, this did the exact opposite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44919303
Genuinely, who are you even quoting? Assuming you are just a retard and it was supposed to be "similar mistake", why would her giving her piece be a mistake similar to saying a gamer word because she is a fucking ESL raised on the internet? No, it was another case of her being a fucking ESL and saying stupid shit because of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44919677
>as a sexual assualt victim she made me uncomfortable
>she gaslit, no I will not say what it was about
God damn, I am GLAD I woke up not a nijifag this morning

[Anonymous No.]

>>44919935
I don't speak Japanese. I can't say for sure what flare or noel or even pekora did say on stream. All I remember is one of them said something, got the dramanigs all fired up and the catalog too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44920067
>Morning
You're up early today SEAnig

[Anonymous No.]

>>44920067
Hex the local groomer going meToo is the funnies shit. Should be a World Peace episode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44920067
>"I wish I could say I wish her luck but I can't"
>proceed to get anti comments by holofaggots right on her youtube video

[Anonymous No.]

>>44920330
nice, zaion said only a raid shadow legends joke, didn't even finish a rape joke and she is getting doxxed in her own graduation thread
but please, it is obvious you care about harassment since this bothers you so much, can't wait to hear you talk about this too

[Anonymous No.]

>>44920330
>make a drama stream to capitalize on drama
>get dramafags in the comments
>go back to 10 comments per vod the next day
Damn this unfair bitch of a world

[Anonymous No.]

>>44920444
>only
I dunno man, I see way more than 3 reasons listed on her termination notice.
Also
>"It's OK if holofaggots harassed a niji, because twitterfaggots harassed a niji"

[Anonymous No.]

>>44920444
Twitter troons are as deranged as /vt/'s holofags, news at 11.