Why do JOP normies hate Vtubers so much?

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Matsuri participated as a commentator in an Apex tournament, and got roasted hard by the chat. Why is there so much hatred for vtubers there? Aren't JOPs supposed to be the polite ones?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqE9EflTkMQ

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Ogey

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V豚

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>>4473350
>Aren't JOPs supposed to be the polite ones?

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>>4473350
>Aren't JOPs supposed to be the polite ones?
since when

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when you see vtuber merchandise when you go to the store you would probably get tired of it after a while too

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>>4473350
>JOP's
>Polite
Oh boy anon you have no idea

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>>4473350
>JOP normies
These aren't normies, these are the equivalent of tards on other boards here who hate "Holobronies"

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To be fair it's Matsuri

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To be fair it's Apex

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>>4473350
>JOPs supposed to be the polite ones?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVhSRmoGehg

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>>4473350
>Aren't JOPs supposed to be the polite ones?
>he fell for the meme that JOPs are more well behaved than EOPs
Every time

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>>4473494
t. Holobronie

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>>4473350
>JOPs polite
did you really buy into the meme?

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jeez apex is big in japan huh

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>>4473350
>Aren't JOPs supposed to be the polite ones?
IRL? Sure. Online? Fuck no.

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>>4473350
The average JPcel would make the average incel look like mens rights activists. Thats how vile these herbivores can be
and I salute them for that

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>>4473350
>Aren't JOPs supposed to be the polite ones
boi

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>>4473350
>JOPs
>they're all named shit like copium and other english language memes
ogey

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>>4473350
>Matsuri's comments are on the level of a bronze player
Matuli...

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>name Copium
>sad frog avatar
>"Japanese"

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>>4473350
>Aren't JOPs supposed to be the polite ones?
They're the biggest pussies that only let out their true feelings online behind anon accounts.

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>>4473350
>JOPs normies
I'm pretty sure those people are from 5ch version of /v/

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>>4473728
>>4473818
W-Were Matuli's antis Westerners all along?

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>>4473350
>Shut up woman
Oh they're just Gamers™

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>>4473350
>shut up woman
TAKESHI
IT SEEMS YOU FAILED TO BECOME SEX

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>>4473350
>Implying you know what is Homne and Tatemae
Japanese are unironically like internet trolls incarnated who insults you behind an avatar but when you meet them they just shut up (Obviously with their range of being good people and being an asshole like them)

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>>4473350
Matsuri loves being humiliated though

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>>4473350
Poor matsuli. Anyone could have predicted that this would happen. Too bad she's actually fucking retarded.

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>>4473350
>kappa reddit
Kek

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>>4473350
It's the same shit you'd see in the west. Imagine Ame doing professional CSGO commentary on twitch, It'd probably be twice as bad.

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>>4473350
>literal /biz/ tier pepe avatar
>kappa reddit
either a tiny dicked faggot from 5ch or a tiny dicked faggot from outside of japan

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>>4474776
Nah, Matsuri knows that would happen. She even advises her viewers to consider not to watch the stream though for a different reason, but we all know what she means. It's the event organizer that stupid enough not to expect these kinds of people and only realizes their mistake after about an hour into the event.

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>>4473350
vtubers and especially their fans are treated like a pest of the society.

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The biggest blackpill no one wants to swallow is that a very consistent number (actual 30% or more) of Coco's spammers are assmad JOPs that genuinely hate her for becoming the (at the time) most popular holo simply by being not-an-idol and pandering to overseas audiences, an unforgivable sin. This was well documented in 5 and 2ch before the taiwan issue, posts with completely garbage english calling coco a dog pig american whore because they hated her for speaking english and dragging the rest of her gen into being dog pig american whores with her.
The other, smaller blackpill is that a solid 20 percent are non-chinese. Not for the same reasons but not far off.
This time they'll make more of an effort I hope, but next time someone talks about the chinks or art*a in a positive light, watch how every reply has very, very obvious EOP english.

Also online japanese are the rudest (and more consistently rude) out of the CJK posters, anyone that speaks any of the three languages or that uses asian internet knows this.
Chinks cheat and spam and are quick to be roused to "nationalist" (lol) campaigns, and koreans are permanently angry online and WILL let you know, but the japanese are just cunts, every time.
Japanese internet being somehow better than western internet is a mix of /jp/'s vintage delusional cope and the west's fetishization of asian public politeness. They compensate being polite in public with being genuinely terrible people if they know they're anonymous.
Guilt vs Shame societies.

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>>4474978
Thankfully they got some mods for the time Towa became the commentator. Matuli was hurt so Twap could have fun

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>>4474242
>Homne
Must be personality side that you show only to your closest homies.

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>>4473350
And yet they still probably aren't as bad as this board's schizos.

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Does ShibuHal get the same treatment?

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>>4474978
Why did she do it if she knew that it would happen?

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>>4473350
Imagine playing WoW, for years, kinda asmongold like, and then pokimane gets into it for about 4 months and because of that she is invited as a commentator as if she knew shit about the game, that alone would trigger a neckbeard chain reaction of disgust becuase they wasted their life playing Wow and then a famous woman who got into it for shit and giggles is in position you could dream about. Basically losers malding

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>>4473747
Best one , also i'm pretty sure this is a new Chang tactic >>4473728 >>4473818

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Their are sometimes JOPs are acting like complete niggers

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>>4475051
Damn

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>>4475099
All humans have nigger mannerism

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>>4475051
Proof on the Coco spam?

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>>4475083
you'd only get mad about that if you played the game to be an e-celeb type of cunt instead of just wanting to have fun with the game itself

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>>4475077
She never turned down any job and the job in question is related to Apex. Everyone knows how much she loves Apex.

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>>4473350
APEX community hates Vtubers. Chii gets hate comments everyday even when she's not in a tournament and is just playing by herself. They don't want chuubas in

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>>4473612
I will never forgive the Japs for this. JOP nijinigger schizos are the worst.

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>>4475076
Yes.

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>>4473350
some japs are still desperately clinging to the illusion that they can be normal and are not a part of a dying degenerate nation.

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>>4474972
mostly /int/

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>>4475194
This damages the organizers event and reputation, Hololive's reputation, and her own reputation. If her presence would only be negative, and she knew it, then she has a responsibility to decline the job. Maybe I'm over estimating the negative impact, but it seems like she's a brain dead woman.

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>>4475099
Learn to write properly please.

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>>4475066
Yes, Honne is your true personality, tatemae is the facade who let OP think they are polite lol

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>>4475092
It wouldn't surprise me if one of them turns out to be that gachikoi that always seethes on aka supas whenever Matuli plays apex.

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>>4475051
All those 6 legs sure helped you type a lot there

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>>4473419
絵畜生 is my favorite vtuber slur

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>>4475354
Shitty chats are standard for competitive events. It's really no worse than when a hated player gets on screen or god forbid wins.

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>>4475354
You're definitely overestimating it. Antis exists everywhere and they're always more vocal even though their numbers are always minimal.

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>>4475354
Shit chats are normal especially for an FPS. This recent tournament they just started banning everyone in chat who were flaming iirc

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>>4475051
At the end of the day you're just making excuses for the chinese. It doesn't matter what number it is, they had a significant involvement. And even that is just a jot on a long list of bullshit. They don't even have the excuse of being controlled. They are a blood enemy and deserve nothing less than total proscription.

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>>4473350
Normalfags are the same all over the world, the whole nips are polite even while online is such an old fucking meme

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JOP, EOP, Zhang, seanigs etc. doesnt matter what they are everyone in this fanbase deserves to be shat on

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>>4476027
The japanese are pretty mentally ill too so I don't have a hard time believing this rrat. Just scroll through niconico for a bit and you can get a good feel for it.

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>>4475051
>Japanese internet being somehow better than western internet is a mix of /jp/'s vintage delusional cope and the west's fetishization of asian public politeness. They compensate being polite in public with being genuinely terrible people if they know they're anonymous.
Netouyos were a thing way before stormfront colonised /pol/ and /pol/ colonised the rest of 4ch

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>>4475726
google translate isn't doing much for me, but it looks like it literally means "drawn livestock lifeform" so something like "cartoon pig"?

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That's what she gets for playing a shit game for brainlets. I automatically drop any vtubers that touch APEX.

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>>4475051
>30%
>20 percent
100% of those percentages were taken from your ass

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>>4475051
Nijiniggers obviously.

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>>4475669
The Japanese are more bug-like than the Chinese, they take pride in not being able to put themselves before the hive.
>Japanese social structures consistently remould human associations in terms of an archaic family or household model (家, ie) characterized by vertical relations (縦社会, tate-shakai), clan (氏, uji), and (foster-)parent-child patterns (親分・子分, oyabun, kobun). As a result, the individual (個人, kojin) cannot properly exist, since groupism (集団主義, shūdan-shugi) will always prevail.[16]

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>>4475192
Not necessarily, people just need 1 little excuse to justify being assholes

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>>4473350
It's the japanese apex community, they don't like vtubers. The comments were pretty brutal but to be fair, the organizers should have just invited one more pro player or at the very least a pred/mas

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>>4476418
t. projecting burger

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>>4473350
It looks like most of the chat was positive. There will always be a handful of psychopaths who hate on things beyond their comprehension.

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>>4475737
>>4475840
anyone else remember apex matsuri chats (what a coincidence)?

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>>4476264
but anon, pikamee plays apex

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>>4476423
ye you're right
the type of people to get mad about these things and shit up some chat are definitely the kind who think they know a lot just because they make it to the mid tier leagues
I don't think the top players would give much of a crap about a noob's opinions on what they're doing, unless they actively tried to diss

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>>4473419
カオナシ (no face from Spirited Away) in case of vtuber fans.
Honestly, the vtubers fans are the most hated thing in the internet right now, from feminists, fujos to non-vtuber otakus and normies.

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if you objectively look at Vtubers it's hard to not come to the conclusion that they're an all around unhealthy phenomenon. They're content creators who feel as though they could be more successful if they weren't themselves. That lack of upfront authenticity might be appealing to some (escapists), but people value authenticity over most other qualities in streamers (and more broadly in artists). Being a vtuber at all is making a passive admission that you don't have confidence in your natural appearance and personality.

The money spent on chubbas is disproportionate to the service they provide. As there is tremendous animosity towards titty streamers who take advantage of their looks to garner a following. There is sure to be a similar group who feels this way towards those who portray themselves as cartoon characters to do the same.

Normal people don't recognize the anime tropes many characters are based on. Even if they did, it's hard for them to get past the hypersexualization of these characters. Those who portray themselves as children or with exaggerated double d titties are especially vulnerable to derision from normal people.

why am i like this fuck

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>>4476185
As previously said, they were significantly involved in the whole thing at the very least. A few mentally ill jap loners looking for any excuse - be it their herbivore loser nature, muh murrican pig dog seething, or "nationalism" - to be the wastes of skin online that they wish they could be IRL is something that is known and you take into account if you've spent any length of time in Japan and on their internet. Chinese demonstrating the natural expression of their race against someone like Coco is not something you'd see coming pre Taiwan arc, and you people who claim muh gommunism, look at how they've practicing their shit for the past two or three decades, look into how their dynasties operated and how their emperors were like and understand that there's nothing new here. CCP, like a lot of things worldwide, is just a vehicle and a skinsuit for parasites, sociopaths and other scum, and when need be can be easily discarded for another label.

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Learn JP and you'll realize that JPs are just as stupid and retarded as any american or otherwise.
t.former eop who did his reps and partially regrets it since it just opened up another portal of retardation.

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>>4475074
Anon you overestimate 4chan schizos. Asian schizos are on a different level.

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>>4475074
JP schizos take things to the real world. The infamous example of that one stalker almost stabbing an idol to death comes to mind.
Matsuri herself has had problems with stalkers in the past.

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>>4476914
You're right, but ultimately the people who hate on Vtubers and anime are just low-IQ. They don't have complex thoughts.

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>>4477118
They'll be lost in translation to me regardless if they're objectively worse than the mentally ill freaks that frequent this website. Considering I've been groomed by an /int/ Discord in the past, I'm allowed to speak from experience.

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>>4476914
No streamer or youtuber is genuine, the fuck you talking about?

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>>4475051
Stop stupid narrative Artia discord faggot. How nip can spam Coco ?

Spamming script sent only in NGA.

Chink is the worst and they are lair venom snake.

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2ch and 5ch existed, anon
Are you thinking that those shithole are different from this?

you would be surprised.

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>>4477257
Sure they do, but I'll never have to actually deal with them personally because I will never be Japanese. In the meantime, I've been doxxed by people that use this website twice and have been threatened to be killed one of those times. Don't deny the Kiara schizo and his Doxxcord are bad either btw.

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>>4476914
>They're content creators who feel as though they could be more successful if they weren't themselves.
I view it as the exact opposite: they are MORE free to be themselves because kf the reduced social cost that comes with portraying a character that is not your real identity.

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>>4475051
Falseflag rrat sent by Nijinigger.

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>>4476418
>>4476465
No this sort of effort to deflect smells of Han. Your race severed itself from its history via your "Great Leap Forward" then via eugenics became even more hive like ( let a thousand flowers bloom and tall poppy syndrome should clue the rest of you in ). Fuck your projection and fuck your yellow hasbarat.

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>>4475354
She's far from the first clown to get an unqualified commentator role to "bridge communities."
No matter how poorly she did the extra views she dragged into both sides were worth it.

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>>4473350
>Why are incels so cringe
I dunno OP, but Japan has them down to a mastery
In fact it kinda reminded me of Dota 2's debacle with their own female commentators

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>>4476914
Anon, let's be clear. Streamers that are often considered "True and honest" only have that virtue, in everything else they are either degenerates, retards or whores. Being too honest about the shit you do is not smart, it's not well crafted, it attracts retards and people that will document every single failure you have and will rub it in your face.
Tell me, do you have respect and admiration for a guy that says he drinks fanta with cum?
Do you want to have a friend or gf that openly tells anonymous guys about her pregnancy tests in the most retarded way possible?

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>vtuber from hololive who are hated in Japan for pandering to gaijin
>also shit at the game and therefore not fit to be a commentator
Literally asking to get shat on. If it was Kuzuha they wouldn't care.

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>>4477394
aren't bad*

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>>4477684
They would still care about the intrusion, being a shit commentator is a secondary concern.The difference would be that they would have less material to complain with.

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>>4473350
Lol, no. We all have shit heads and cool peeps in every society.

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>>4473834
we are the same holy shit

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>>4473350
Japanese people are polite in person. On the internet however, it's an entirely different side of them

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>>4475051
This.

>>4475669
>>4476027
Its true. The End Of Evangelion one of tye most famous animated films of all time was inspired by fan harrasment, during the Shinji mindbreak scene you can see the actual death threats the ditector got and pictures of the studio after people vandalized it.

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>>4477257
Japan is smaller and more dense than you might think. JP schizos can and do pull this shit for the same reason why a west coaster isn't safe no matter their neighborhood if they're within 10 miles of a BART platform. For those not in the know BART is public transportation, elevated rail. And BART is short for Bussing Africans Round Town.

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>>4473350
This is a good thing. I'd be much more concerned if everyone was on board with the vtuber hype.

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>>4476914
>reddit spacing

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>>4474242
same as you fucking my dad, asshole

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>>4476914
>They're content creators who feel as though they could be more successful if they weren't themselves.
That's like attacking celebrities for getting plastic surgery. Bad criticism
>people value authenticity over most other qualities in streamers
All popular streamers are faking it to varying degrees.
>natural appearance and personality
And all of the most popular streamers are either mediocre or slightly above average in appearance.
>The money spent on chubbas is disproportionate to the service they provide
Someone could say that about any job, it's meaningless
>why am i like this fuck
You wrote a mini essay just to say that normalfags don't like anime. Nice
>>4477262
>groomed
>discord
You deserved it + fuck off

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>>4477826
Kuzuha is respected because he's a decent player and plays with other APEX pros all the time. I think the issue people had there was Matsuri bringing a bunch of holobronies to the stream who were only interested in seeing her.

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>>4477939
I did not deny that japs were involved. Read again, and know that the amount of similar examples, both well known and lesser known, in America and European nations are legion. What I did say was that they are irrelevant when measured up against the Han, and no amount of deflection, lying, and whataboutism is going to make them any less of a blood enemy that they already are.

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>>4475083
This may be a really good point to be honest. If the other commentators are significantly more skilled than Matsuri, then this might be the reason.

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>>4473350
You really think someone with the username "copium" and with a pepe avatar is Japanese?

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>>4476027
It's nice being dumb EOP like you, thinking that the one hates holo only either chink or nijiger.

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>>4475099
and you have a nigger kind of writing, faggot

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>>4477826
Did anyone complain about Botan commentating that COD tournament?

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>>4478285
They will still trash all of the guest anon. Just see the rest of their stream. Most of the supposed Matsuri fans in the chat there are also false flags to garner more flame.

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>>4475051
interesting to know japs indulge in moral licensing to this degree

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>>4478783
The biggest lie 4chan ever tried to push was that Japan's above western style "cancel culture" when in reality Japan goes fucking harder on it than anyone

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>>4476185
that hiroyuki usseewa video was good

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>>4473350
Festival commentated algs? thats awesome, but sucks that chat was fucking retarded

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>>4477684
Do the Japanese really get butthurt when vtubers pander to EOPs?

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>>4478624
> holofags, Cocofags, and people who hate the chinese are the same person
Must be nice being a high function dumb animal who reads one post and then immediately fills in the blanks using his preconceived notions of EOPs and Nijifags and shoots off a cookie cutter post that's only been seen and shot down ten thousand times already. Suck start a 12 gauge you inferior being.

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>>4475083
That's... actually a good point. If Poki actually was invited to be a commentator in a WoW event I'd be writting even worse stuff in the chat

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Of course vtuber fans are hated. Just look at overseas vtuber fans. They're posting about Holo in unrelated places trying to promote their whores. Japs vtuber fans are probanly like this too. They're like those Rick & Morty fans when it's still cool to like R&M, screaming jokes like PICKLE RICKKK at normal people.

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>>4476264
no wonder your mom disowned you retard

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>>4478252
Plastic surgery is absolutely worth making fun of you fucking faggot, or have you personally taken the bogpill?
>All popular streamers are faking it to varying degrees.
If you fail to understand how animating yourself as an imaginary character is faking it more than a nose job and some acting lessons your fucking retarded
>And all of the most popular streamers are either mediocre or slightly above average in appearance.
Completely meaningless point, what the fuck does this even have to do with vtubers becoming idealized cartoons?
>Someone could say that about any job
you completely missed the comparison to titty streamers and cherry picked the gayest possible thing to respond with
>A mini essay
I shit longer essays on the toilet faggot, work on your reading comprehension

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Why do people expect these japanese women to be good at video games? At first person shooters, no less. Matsuri herself came around before hololive content got settled into video games anyway.

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>>4475051
They hated him because he told the truth.

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>>4477684
If only nijisanwho? is more famous, maybe they'll invite them there instead of Hololive lmao. The official Apex organizer were like 'get those cartoon people here, those Hololive', they probably don't even know niji exist.

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>>4477857
>the "you'll never be japanese" pasta was actually wrong
>we... already are japanese
woah!

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>>4475051
>This was well documented in 5 and 2ch before the taiwan issue, posts with completely garbage english calling coco a dog pig american whore because they hated her for speaking english

what? you are completely making shit up. 5ch actually praised Coco for speaking English. pandering to EOPs are usually always praised in the site, which personally irritates me.

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>>4478979
My ass. Everyone has been having that grass is greener mentality after enduring the horseshit that has been the last 20 years. Every society has their taboos and their blasphemy laws that get you unpersoned or relentlessly attacked damn near instantly. In the US it's anything remotely sexual with a minor or criticizing jews. In Japan it's weed.

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Why are you faggots even here if you too hate VTubers?

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>>4479866
I like drama

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>>4479851
Yeah, people there are praising Coco because she made Hololive popular by speaking English. The one that has problem with vtubers speaking English are Nijidogs who use excuses like not wanting the chat to be full of English to cope to the fact that they're not as popular as Hololive.

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>>4479866
>Thinking /vt/ watches Vtubers

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>>4473350
On the one hand, I feel really bad for festival, nobody deserves to be treated like that. On the other hand, goddamn girl stop playing apex you’ve been playing it and only it forever and you’re not even that great at it.

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>>4476914
All influencers are fake as fuck. Their whole existence is shilling someone else's product because that's the only thing they have to offer. A vtuber's character may not be real but it's something that they offer that is theirs to rise or fall on their own merit. Of course how much they are able to do this versus just being another fake shill varies wildly and will only get more corporatized down the line.
>why am i like this fuck
Because you're 15 at most and haven't lived a day in the real world.

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>>4480166
She really needs to work on her basics and game sense if she really wants to get better at the game. I still remember that one game during Hal's tournament where she fucking died to ring by staying inside of it for a full ring cycle (Ring 2 I think?)
She's been pretty much the same level of play for a long time, if she was at least Aqua's skill level she would at least get some praise.

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>>4479866
i like shitposting i'm also here for the kanata thread

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>>4480166
She just simply loves the game. It's not her favourite but it's her go-to game. She won't stop anytime soon.

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Those comments are soft compared to the trash Matsuri gets daily on 5ch. She’s probably laughing her ass off at the seethe while getting paid for a guest appearance. Half of them are probably her chat regulars which makes it even funnier when they SC their apologies later

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>>4473494
brownies?


Sorry i'm kinda hungry

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>>4476914
>Being a vtuber at all is making a passive admission that you don't have confidence in your natural appearance and personality.
That's a really normalfag and moronic way to think about it. It's also fucking wrong.

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>>4476914
You think singers and actors are being themselves while they perform? You can commodify anything especially in this day and age

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>>4476914
>That lack of upfront authenticity might be appealing to some (escapists), but people value authenticity over most other qualities
>unhealthy phenomenon
Have you ever watched a movie?

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>>4475234
Jesas

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>>4479866
Don't you understand that this website has lost its purpose? People just come to 4channel to shitpost without repercussion

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>>4475234
Esportsfags?

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>>4481147
>4chan
>purpose

Chris the Bag Boy founded this site because SomethingAwful didn't allow loliposting. That's it.

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>>4476240
To me it reads something just like "you fucking drawing". But my Jap is shit.

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>>4473350
The issue obv is not what she's vtuber but what she's woman at the first place. I think we all knew amounts of gamers who hate women getting into male pandered game stuff. Now multiply it to asian traditionalism, neet autism and bad live2d model. And you get ultimate kick dog.

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>>4481078
I think the hate is because shes organizing nijipex.

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>>4479411
>Plastic surgery is absolutely worth making fun of you fucking faggot
Do you live in the timeline where KPOP failed?
>autistic whining about anime avatars
Yes, you just keep saying the same thing repeatedly. Good job on your astute observation skills, who could've possibly figured out that normalfags don't like anime? Only (You) I guess
>you completely missed the comparison to titty streamers
Because it was irrelevant, much like your multiple run-on sentences
>y-you cherry picked my post
I picked something out of your borderline incoherent rambling
>reading comprehension
Are you trying to be ironic zoomzoom?

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>>4477684
We will see in few days

>>4479566
Well he won't be doing commentator but He, Kanae, and Chihiro will be a MC for some opening act at Grand Finals
https://twitter.com/koanonri/status/1399022088455786499

[Anonymous No.]

>>4477394
>I'm speaking on behalf of normal people.
are you a tripfag? If yes, unironically hang on a noose to do everyone a service

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
>Shut up woman
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>4477684
>If it was Kuzuha they wouldn't care.
Did you miss all the butthurt Junfag (Japanese Pewdiepie) who shit on him every day? Every Vtubers have antis. Everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4478732
COD isn't really that big compared to Apex in Japan rn so the comment section on youtube was mostly EOP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4478285
Anon, Matsuri and Towa also interact with pro Apex players as well.
Is just jp /v/ermins who gave a shit about a vtuber being a commentarist.
Because most of the viewers do not give a fuck about live "professional" comments since most of them, no matter how autistic they are, do not get a shit about what is happening on screen.
You can see how all the live chats on every competition is mostly memes and shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4487014
Jun doesn't even play APEX anymore and he's shit at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473468
You don see Vtuber shit outside of Akiba and yellow submarine.

[Anonymous No.]

>Take a 4chan schizo
>Take a Twitter faggot that gets mad at anything
>Combine them in 1 person

That's 90% of japanese Internet, there's nothing new here

[Anonymous No.]

>>4482933
What's the issue with that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4488112
As stated earlier, APEX fags hate vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

So basslically, japanese are just cunts? Dogeza at everything. Stab you and talk shit from your back? Damn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4488472
Isn't that just Asian culture in general?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4475051
All that American hate expose your bugmen nature, zhang

[Anonymous No.]

>>4477087
EOP here, How long did you do your reps for? I'm actually thinking of starting to do my jp reps this month.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4476418
Working hard today, chang? Unfortunately it's so low effort that I recommend your bugmaster to replace you with actual insects

[Anonymous No.]

>>4479866
Hate browsing, thought that was pretty obvious

[Anonymous No.]

>>4488669
Not that anon but I heard that you need 1000 hours of study to be proficient. However from my experience, if you study intensely, you'd feel like you could understand everything in your first month due to the Dunning-Kruger effect. The desperation of not understanding everything starts kicking in when you've studied around 6-12 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4476171
Like you

[Anonymous No.]

>>4487638
I don't know about Towa but Matsuri is shit regardless of that. It's not the first time she gets flamed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fj8jllVSFk
Kuzuha and his team won the CR cup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4475083
kek if its were me i'll go full autism too

[Anonymous No.]

>>4489327
Even Fubuki got flamed whenever she played Apex, is nothing new.
And Anon, Tokyo Ghoul got crushed by other Nijis and even by the Homos on the last vtuber competition (and by Artia on another gamer some time ago) , and is a known fact he is at best average. Even his friend, Kanae, is way better than him yet he also gets shit once in a while due Apex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
Theyre actual humans, what do you expect

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473494
You mean actual sentient humans with a sane mind?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4476240
"2D swine" is the term I can come up with that has the same despise energy

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
>Aren't JOPs supposed to be the polite ones?
grass

[Anonymous No.]

>>4475083
>>4473350
>incels learn empathy because their anime waifu gets trash talked
Funniest shit. In the end Matsuri is just an "e-thot", anime avatar or not, won't get her a free pass, for non otaku nips there is no difference between her and a 3DPD bitch.

Also, no one likes female commentators in esport tournaments, you see this same reaction everywhere, not only Japan. Most of you fags come from /v/, so you should know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473612
Look at these absolutely retarded cavemen by the way
Theyre just disguting to look at these creatures, i honestly doubt theyre even sentient, and the worst of all its not that there are millions of "people" like this, they also shit on everything their deranged view allows them to

Absolute subhumans

[Anonymous No.]

>>4489893
>e-thot

Oh you poor soul...
https://youtu.be/Z23-f2guIIY

[Anonymous No.]

>>4490015
Pokimane gave 100 gifted subs to her friends, it's the same shit.

[Anonymous No.]

in the words of our dear departed mori "Let it dieeeee"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4489841
>sentient humans
>in the current internet
Your desperate hope in others is almost cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>4481078
You can tell that most of her audience is comprised of mostly shitty apex kidz. 160k views but only 3k likes!!!?. What in the bot abuser is this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4490131
nijji doesn't get 10k+ likes just because they're doing a normal stream. that's a holocult/EOP thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
>Aren't JOPs supposed to be the polite ones?
Newfriend...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4488331
I read some comments that are disappointed it's not a full Niji members tournament or a casual one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4481078
3k likes vs 800 dislikes. This confirms my theory that nijisanji has an audience of people who hate watch their own livers. I wouldn't be surprised if these turds are the same people shitting on matsuri. Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4490193
I think this is the first niji tournament that has outsiders participating hence the hate. Its basically CR but nijipex with 30 members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
I don't think there are any vtubers that are even in the top 1% ranking players in the Asia server. But tbf, if you play a competitive game as content, you need to be at least good at it if you want people to enjoy your content. Vtubers aren't the only ones guilty of playing competitive games poorly as content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4488112
Nijisanji has the stigma of being known as apexsanji. Most of their viewers want this tournament to fail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4490071
Anon...you do not know matuli.
She is the og menhera of the holos, but actual full menhera.
Saying she is an e-thot is like saying xQc is a former respectable pro gamer.

[Anonymous No.]

No competitive gaming scene is worth following in Japan unless it's from a fighting game. At least Kuzuha and other Nijis have been playing SFV lately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4490184
And that's exactly why hololive will always be favoured by the youtube algorithm. Damn. you fuckers can't even do the bare minimum and hit the like button, fucking weirdos. Legit one of the many reasons why hololive will always dominate over your precious niji.
Anon, tell me, do you even like niji? Because you sound like a huge pretender with all that holocult rrat shit. You're a disgusting vermin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4490258
Yeah, their previous big tournaments like Mahjong, Smash Bros, or Power Pro are all full Niji members so this one doesn't really feel like a Niji tournament.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4475051
It's how the language was formed and how it's taught to people that wants to learn Japanese that gives people the delusions. Japanese people can be assholes in comments for sure. they aren't holy people that can do no wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4490581
??????
i don't like niji. that's just something I realized when I checked their streams every now and then. also, the nijiEN girls get more likes than any nijiJP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4477663
>Do you want to have a friend or gf that openly tells anonymous guys about her pregnancy tests in the most retarded way possible?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
Those aren't jap "normies" (hint: actual normies, in the true definition, aren't the ones watching Apex tourney streams, they're too busy doing actual normie stuff in real life).
Those are the japanese equivalent of /v/cels and gaymerniggers, and their """opinions""" should be treated as such.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4479058
I sure hope so. sounds hilarious to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4490711
so basically apex kids like in the west, its Minecraft kids.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4479058
if this was the case pika would have sudokued from all the harassment

[Anonymous No.]

>>4490193
Nijisanji fans are scared that the outsiders will destroy and embarrass their own amateur livers. Their concerns are on the balancing, considering niji will be inviting pro players. Like lambs to the slaughter. It's either this tournament will be entertaining pure chaos or an utter failure that will net them even more antis/haters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4490691
I see. you're not vermin after all. That's good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
Gamefags are fags, what else is new? Also VTubers are a very otaku thing which most normalfags in Japanistan aren't going to like. Literally reading a manga that's not like One Piece or Kimetsu no Yaiba levels of mainstream is "too otaku" for most JP normalfags.

[Anonymous No.]

This is pretty normal thing in Esport communities aka the toxic cesspool. You can be the best player and people will still shit on you, just watch the live match of esport on twitch and see how cancerous those communities are.

[Anonymous No.]

Even Jun in day 4 got insulted in chat. Esportsfags are different breed.
>big face
>big face but low voice lmao
>is he even here?
>what is he even here for?

Their team tribalism is also like that, calling CR and T1 supporters "CR/T1 kids"

[Anonymous No.]

whats happening, is there a big event?

[Anonymous No.]

Girls commentating any FPS game is asking to get bullied. That's just how it is. It's sad but that's how it's always been and always will be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4490235
they're mad because its supposed to be an all Niji tournament yet there are a number of outside pro players taking part despite the fact that some players are brand new

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473494
basically, /v/ in real life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4476914
I declare this as the shittest and most retarded takes of 2021. What a nigger you are

[Anonymous No.]

I'm so glad chuubas are taking over the market alongside gacha shit and Isekais. I live to see normies seethe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4491555
but chuubas are infested with normals

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
>comments are on the level of a bronze player
Seems polite to me.

Also this >>4490412

[Anonymous No.]

>>4491402
日本のゲーマーズ

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
Nips are only polite in real life where there's a chance of them getting their dome split.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4476914
Everyone bullshits on the internet, normalfags like you ruined everything with your blogs, trend chasing, prudness, ignorance, and wannabe parenting (cuz you obviously do a poor job of it at home)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
Vtubers are niche. Also, Jun's fanbase is there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
>Aren't JOPs supposed to be the polite ones?
Anon... JOPs are polite IRL, but will trash talk you in your back and are probably the worst motherfuckers you'll ever find online.
Those faggots are fucking brutal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4492080
This.
Fucker nips trash talk you and implying I can't read their shit, despite doing everything correctly on an online game.
Fucking FFXIV and the yellow monkey chavs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4489926
Source for that screenshot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4492206
Nvmd, it’s from the video in the post you replied to

[Anonymous No.]

>>4490869
Sadly balance is also Chihiro and management concern for Nijisanji only tourney,
Stuff like power distribution and lack of interest i livers will make it the tourney least interesting.
Not to mention lack of technical problem like permission to held a custom match, hence they ask to Detonators to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4493651
Hello JP bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>4475051
So they let something override their righteous hatred for China and Chinese? Sad!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4475154
Humans evolved from niggers after all, so some nigger tendencies are retained

[Anonymous No.]

>>4478285
>Kuzuha is respected
funniest thing I've read all day

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
Because there's "normal" streamers in Japan too, man. They even have their own hyper active spaz video game KSI people. Look at Sawayan Games, for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4491375
Some of those teams are so stacked its not even funny.
Pitting pros against noobs.
At least Hal's tournament had a way of trying to make it more equal by giving preds 1-2 sandbags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
>kappa reddit
>copium
mhmmm yes real Japanese people

[Anonymous No.]

>>4494863
Just to play devil's advocate: There's people from various western countries that use anime characters as their profile picture and call themselves shit like Kusogaki or someshit too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4494890
Fair point but I seriously doubt any JOP really understands something as esoteric as copium.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow humans behave like are trash, especially when anonymous. How unexpected. Right, fellas?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4494824
Eh, All Master's team like Big Stars was bonker last tourney, also Alelu picking 2 dead weight just for meme..
Having it only Nijisanji member didn't solve the problem since all of FPS player aren't willing to volunteer to become leader, hence the problem came in as lack of player.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495238

im shocked as well sam. like a series of tubes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4476799
worth noting is that people use the same arguments in the west and in the east, namely that you're a simp giving money to a woman that would never in a trillion years want to be around you and has a different boyfriend for each day of the week.
kaonashi falls between simp and 2010 nice guy (laser focused on a prepubescent girl, cant speak, gives money for attention, but lashes out violently if rejected).

To pontificate a bit, Japan doesnt like streamers.
Vtubers dominated the japanese streamer market, but there's not a "well what about valkyrae" counterargument for japanese female streamers because there's no japanese female streamers.
Streaming was never a thing in japan, mostly because the kind of games that are popular there are not really streamable, and partly because "streaming videogames" is thought of as something to be done by korean starcraft pros or something like that. Watching someone just stream a game from beginning to end adding commentary is alien to japanese online culture.
In the west, twitch tv comes from the early 2010s youtube's Lets Play phase, but Japan never had a Lets Play phase at all so they dont have people playing games online as part of their online culture.
Vtubers in the west have an easy point of entry because its just a regular streamer with a 2d rig playing a character.
Japan doesnt have this entry point because they arent really interested in streamers in the first place.

For the aspies, this doesnt mean "Japan has ZERO streamers, none.", it means "Japan doesnt have a videogame streamer market and doesnt care to have one so introducing anime videogame streamers has insane resistance".

[Anonymous No.]

Matsuri brought this on herself. She has knowledge same as average player, 0 commentating skill, talked about things unrelated to the match. Just stick to invite pros or Hal, Gorilla, Reid as guest, and the chat will become less toxic. See gorilla on the next day, not a single faggot shit up the chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4488112
Babies complaining about there being too many outsiders invited when it’s a company organized event, also mostly just another opportunity for the antis/already disgruntled fans to shit on the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>4489926
These comments are 100% right though, beaner

[Anonymous No.]

>>4496898
Reminds me of one of the holos talking about how hard it is to get an apartment because putting YouTube or streamer as a ton of negative connotations. Supposedly some of the top Japanese youtubers love destroying shit and are known for it so there’s a stigma.

[Anonymous No.]

>Copium

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>>4494890
And they're not Westerner normalfags, they're weebs.

Anyone who uses "Copium" as a name isn't a JOP normalfag. Probably a /pol/ type of vermin (not in Japanese equivalent sense but in literal Anglo/American culture-based sort of rightoid). They're not all Americans after all. Got degeneracy pilled, becoming the exact same NPC copy as every /pol/ tourist circa 2016 so naturally shitting on women appearing in internet as whores is only natural

[Anonymous No.]

>>4476914
They hated him because he told the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
>"cringe"
>pepe shit avatar
>"copium"
None of them are Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4496898
There is actually place for Let's play in Japan, but they are much focused on series clip/video rather than streaming as they usually commenting without face cam or using voice software like Vocaloid or softbank voice which known as Yukkuri Let's play.
Kizuna Ai is actually evolution of this model video content.

>>4498572
>>4498648
Didn't there is big western APEX twitch streamer who focused so much on JP server, that it gain japanese fans?
Guttenburg or something, I think he is also in the tourney.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4498648
>>"cringe"
That’s just the translation
I think there’s a mix of legit Japs and chink falseflaggers in there. Or they could all just be twitchfags using those memes, Japs know what pepe and stuff are

[Anonymous No.]

>>4495238
Geez sam, that was uncalled for

[Anonymous No.]

>>4498266
Coco is the one who said that when she try to find a place to be a first "HoloHouse"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473612
This is the line gaijin will never get.
Japanese work teams would skip their firstborn's graduation to finish a project because not showing up to work is rude even if your mother is in the ICU. Imagine if your shift manager coaxing you into coming in saturday because "well you dont want your partner to have to do all of this alone right? :(" was actually every single coworker in your company.
If you, an accountant, get a bad reputation for something completely unrelated to your work, you will be practically forced to quit your job, so as to not carry that reputation to your company.
Aloe 'bringing antis to hololive' and therefore having to leave Cover is what you're supposed to do in japanese culture. Its not a necessarily moral failing on the antis' part or a bad thing for Cover or hololive as a brand. Quitting is what Aloe should have done, because she "got antis" (like you'd get lice) so the obvious next step is to just quit.

To some degree, japanese nationalism is the reason Coco is still in hololive. If the antis had been korean or japanese she would've been made to quit streaming. In fact if antis had just skipped the taiwan part entirely she'd be out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4499565
What a bunch of cucks, lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
Matsuri is garbage at Apex so it's not that surprising that Apex fans dislike her being the commentator for a presumably serious business Apex tournament.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4499565
Uh, I don’t think it’s exactly that extreme, there are so many corporate vtubers who have a league of antis who spread their shit anywhere they can across the company but they don’t quit/get fired

[Anonymous No.]

>>4497079
>See gorilla on the next day, not a single faggot shit up the chat.
I see 4 comments being deleted right before my eyes within 1 minute of watching it anon. Yes, it is slower the next day but that is because they started applying mods and slow mode for the chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4499197
Coco should've sent kanata to rent the house. Japanese people DO NOT rent to westerners, this is not a cliche.
If you have good enough japanese or you're renting through a third company (you never talk to the landlord) you can see the sincere look of disappointment in their eyes when you actually meet your renter and they see you're not japanese.
Sometimes they even reply to your emails with "this property is not for rent to foreigners" and you can sometimes see them either ramping up their japanese to unrealistic university lecturer levels, in hopes you just give up and leave japan, I suppose.
If you dont specify you're a westerner (and the country) in your emails you're just asking for trouble.

Being a youtuber (not having a stable income) is probably more of an issue when securing a creditor/guarantor. People in actual big companies can have trouble with this sometimes, good luck with fucking Cover two years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4500070
It’s always funny to see stories of foreigners getting their view of Japan shattered when they try to live there. Japan is xenophobic as hell, worse if you’re a non Japanese Asian or halfu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4500527
There's a reason I've always thought that Japan is a fine place to visit but not a good place to live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4475083
This happens quite often. I've watched csgo tournament that have a female caster who dont even know the names of guns and callouts

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
based, fuck apex

[Anonymous No.]

>>4498572
I've seen a copium custom emote on twitch. Maybe jap Apex community appropriated it just like they did with pog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4487968
Anon.... Any color used to shill their vtubers on peanuts packages at my local lawson...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4501128
I’ve seen photos of them putting their vtubers on juice boxes and stuff as well. They usually do nationwide campaigns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
IRL Japanese society is incredibly reserved, constantly oppressing themselves on a daily basis. It only makes sense all the rage comes out online and Japanese internet lurkers are way more savage than their western equivalent. if you want to see how bad the bullying gets look up hana kimura

[Anonymous No.]

>>4501359
>kimura hana
>On April 5, 2021, Tokyo Metropolitan Police charged a second man in his late 30s for online abuse he sent Kimura. Metropolitan Police Department said the second man, from Fukui Prefecture, admitted to the allegations during voluntary questioning, with investigative sources quoting him as saying, "Many hateful messages had been posted, and I followed suit. I’m sorry." When asked why he did it, he said he was "simply joining in with what he saw others doing on her site.
This is just /vt/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4501359
>look up hana kimura
Poor girl, I still feel bad for her. That whole situation was absolutely ridiculous, and the worst part is that all that shit happened because of something really dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473728
Japanese are slowly being consumed by twitch culture right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4475083
something similar happened with dota 2 back in the day. was a relatively funny new player who made videos about his experience with different heroes. eventually started getting invited as a guest to big events. had to look up his name again since I haven't payed attention to dota in a few years, but Pyrion Flax. had no real business commentating but was funny to watch the interactions between him and casters

[Anonymous No.]

>>4501467
>he said he was "simply joining in with what he saw others doing on her site.
bros…not like this, i come here for escapism and comfy shitposting.

[Anonymous No.]

Aren't eye candy female reporters and hosts just the global norm? Bloomberg has a Zhang or some Asian you can barely understand on their news show and nobody's going to seriously convince me Akiko Fujita or Julie Hyman are serious financial minds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4501536
Sir Action Slacks did that as well, he was a wacky retard player in the lowest MMR tier who just did weird wacky voices and played like a shitter
he was entertaining to watch and basically became a pro commentator off of that after about 6 months of streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>4475083
Matsuri is qualified to talk about the game though. She started playing it only a month after it released and she has spent a good amount of time grinding it. She's not nearly the best player out there but she puts considerable effort into improving herself and she cares a lot about the teamwork aspect of the game. She's far from the typical e-girl who just plays a game for the clout, so it's not right to treat her in the same way.

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that your favorite JP vtuber is literally the as an average Jap you see there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
These are Apextards, not people

[Anonymous No.]

>>4500527
I think part of the reason people dont know about racism in japan is that most people lie their ass off about racism in japan, on both sides of the debate.
There's people saying japan is a futurist dystopia and people spit on you if you're not japanese and also people saying racism never ever happens in japan and they're the most polite society on earth. These are both false but the first one is more obviously false to a tourist so when you get to japan see people just treat you normally most of the time, I wouldnt fault a passing tourist if they thought only one side lied to them. It really is a cultural shock to go from the publicly polite japanese hosts to the "we dont rent to you because you smell".

If people online were honest about what life in japan is actually like, FOBs wouldnt have these issues. Yes people are racist as fuck, but its a very specific kind of racism. They 'just' think you're kind of lazy, loud, and smell. If none of these things would really matter (such as when ordering food), then they're not racist. When renting a flat they dont want foreigners because they truly expect you to be a rock beating savage.
If you can prove you're not lazy or loud or smell you probably shouldnt have to worry, but you'll need to prove this to every single relevant person you see and you'll need to work ten times as hard to do so. You'll always be "he's good for a foreigner", you'll never be just good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4501805
Forgot about him but yah. Think the main thing is they were funny and basically got most people in on the fun. Also helped that they didn't take themselves seriously and were just the vehicle to make viewer feel smarter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4479866
For the sneeds.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know, I wouldn't take people who post on FPS championship stream chats as a reference for general opinion in any country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
Based JOP

[Anonymous No.]

>>4499565
MUST. PROTECT. HIVE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4479851
5ch is their reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>4488529
The japanese that hate chinks and koreans hate americans even more and would absolutely hate you too for not having a spine.
Big tent nationalism doesnt exist, if you're a pro-america non-american you're just a globalist.
>haha they'll never side with the chinks before the US
jap nationalists supported al-quaeda after 9/11 and still support the terrorist side in the war on terror. If you think the national socialist japanese party will side with the transgender drone pilots to make china liberal you're delusional.

I do hate america though, that much is true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4504748
And yet they couldn't stop Hiroshima and Nagasaki, checkmate japs

[Anonymous No.]

>>4499856
But how many of those have as many antis as Aloe would've had if she kept streaming?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4508617
A few

[Anonymous No.]

>>4502216
> they don't want foreigners
> they truly expect you to be a rock beating savage
They aren't wrong in some cases, cause in some parts of the US...wew lad.

[Anonymous No.]

Unexpectedly, this has been one of the best threads in months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
those are casual apex gamers. not vtuber viewers. so called 指示厨, control freak faggot . apex shitters are vocal minorities since the game isnt even popular in japan, but have many control freaks.

none of them being her members prove that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4499565
Wow japs really are subhuman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4499565
reddit faggotry. kill yourself, chink

[Anonymous No.]

>>4509794
go back to /r/aznidentity, chinkgook insect

[Anonymous No.]

>>4509851
I don't give a shit about your subhuman asian infighting. I'm white.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4509888
>literal chink insect

chinks are bugs. go back to your chink insect commie colony

[Anonymous No.]

>>4501467
>When asked why he did it, he said he was "simply joining in with what he saw others doing on her site.
Holy hivemind. How normal is this for Japanese people? Please tell me it's just a random idiot or someone trying to come up with a lame excuse to cover his ass and nothing else.

[Anonymous No.]

>EOPs win yet again
Feels good man

[Anonymous No.]

>>4509914
Yes. Chinks are subhuman. Japs are subhuman. Gooks are subhuman. I agree all asians are subhuman scum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4509949
this isnt a chink board. now you have to go back to the chinky chinky commie colony.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4473350
japanese are feral and more brutal than the rest of the internet, you just can't read jp for shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>4509971
You sound like a mad subhuman asian. Too bad your people are unevolved. I'm done talking to subhumans. I'll go back to watching superior white vtubers though.

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>>4509998
>>4509971
>>4509949
>>4509914
>>4509888
>>4509851
>>4509794
In case you two aren't just bored shitposters, I'd like to remind you two that it's never too late to kill yourselves.

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>>4509998
fyi this board is literally owned and run by japanese. this isnt your stinky chink safespace. resetera would tolerate you chink bugs and it has a bunch of white soicucks who are your "allies". why would you post on the japanese board. go there.

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>>4509930
People here seethe and cope about this because they're hystrionic on anything related to japanese culture, but every asian culture in general is about cohesion and community growth rather than individualism.
Doing things because everyone else does it is the norm. Chinese, Koreans and Japanese are all cut from the same cultural cloth.

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>>4501467
>>4509930
>>4510235
They're all ants...

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>>4473350
honestly dont see the problem here. All I see are based commenters

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>>4510235
complete reddit bs. keep worshiping your modern individualism woke trash and cancel culture and its mob mentality.

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>>4509498
It's actually kinda sad, in a way.

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>>4473350
I feel bad for her, but realistically the same would happen in the west if you shoved a vtuber in a normie game event like CoD or LoL

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>>4510372
I dont know why you think reddit doesnt absolutely despise china when they're the ones that made the HK riots thing a while back. Some months ago I corrected someone on chinka's credit score system (said they dont have it yet) and they downvoted me so hard they deleted my account.
If you classify political opinions on whether or not they're reddit I have bad news for you.

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>>4510372
> modern individualism woke trash
It isn't individualism at all thought. It's just a newer form of "follow the herds bullshit" but completely outside what's considered normal.

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>>4509989
As right as you are, I'm certain the chinks are even more bloodthirsty and cruel in their comments.

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>>4510372
>individualism
>mob mentality
Because less individualism is less mob mentality?

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>>4510591
They just all copy each other so it isn't so bad. Japs and Koreans are down right nasty motherfuckers when insulting people online.

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>>4510478
>im a redditor literally

western woke garbage r*ddit worships is literally the very embodiment of extreme conformity totally akin to cultural revolution and struggle session that had to destroy every individualism and every non-commie traditional value

funny that you arent selfaware of that shit, but the lack of self awareness is literally why the modern west is absolutely collapsing to the core. why would you post here and enjoy japanese stuff. all holo en and niji en are made and produced by japanese. the only exception is vshojo and still they are weeby as hell. enjoy your western woke garbage. now go back to re*dit.

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>>4510635
Chinese are quantity, Japanese and Koreans are quality, and the West just resorts to the nuclear option.

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>>4510420
>but realistically the same would happen in the west if you shoved a vtuber in a normie game event like CoD or LoL
Oh yeah, absolutely.
The fact that Matsuri's comments were mostly things like "Woah, he's strong!", or "He's playing well!" probably didn't help. But to her defense, being an esport commentator is surprisingly hard, especially when there are multiple ones on the same game... There are so many awful commentators out there too, especially on smaller games.

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>>4510741
>le reddit boogeyman
>reddit spacing
>nondistinct generalist right wing politics with orientalist (japan only) characteristics
The classic.
I've been on the internet probably for significantly longer than you've been alive (assuming 15-17 years old), I made a reddit account in around 2008, couple of years after I started using this site. The reddit at the time was gaia, reddit was just a news aggregator with a voting system attached, which honestly was pretty cool.
You, however, made a reddit account because you enjoyed modern reddit, you are a bonafide redditor, to the point where you've internalized typing like a redditor and using reddit's signature argument style. This is not a bad thing, this whole site and specifically this board has been just a venting box for redditors since 2015 or so.
Asian cultures have no individualism. They're not built for that. They vote to the same party, if they vote at all. They consume the same products, they watch the same shows, they like the same things and they hate the same things. If you had any idea of japanese culture more than vtubers and anime you'd know this. Before Mao there was the KMT and before that there was a 5k year old legalist regime, not that you'd know. Asian cultures are about uniformity, cohesion and community.
his is what you like in them, but you also have emotional stake in western culture, that is built on competition and individualism, so its normal that you have severe cognitive dissonance. To have to praise the conformity you hate here because it has an "x, Japan" label. To have to praise strict social immobility and cancel culture in Japan and then having to pull up your mental stoppers to not think about the similarities of kpop (something you hate) and idol culture (something you like).
You like or hate things based on whether or not they're reddit or cringe or based or western or woke or whatever other buzzword you want to attach to whatever concept, because you're incapable of individual thought. You're a monkey responding to red and blue lights.

Western woke garbage is what you produce when trying to imitate a culture so alien to you you cant even begin to understand it.
Western woke garbage is the only thing you're actually able to consume, thats why you need to filter everything in terms of rightthink-wrongthink to be able to enjoy them.
If you had any real intuition of japanese culture you wouldn't disagree with a post on what japanese corporate culture is like. If you had worked in asia or if you had had any sort of contact with asians at all we wouldnt be having this conversation. Asian culture is a legalistic confuncian monolith, this is not debatable.

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>>4502216
The flat thing is literally just "foreigners are far more likely to just not pay their last months rent" because they know you can't evict for one late payment and chasing them for debts in a foreign country is impossible. This is the same for literally everyone in any country with a temporary work visa, maybe the landlord also thinks gaijin are smelly lazy thugs and the effect is multiplied because of it, but the root cause is perfectly rational.

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>>4511572
You never see your landlord. You rent though a management company and you need a guarantor or a creditor to guarantee that the contract will be fulfilled. Usually its the company you work for but if you're unemployed or your employer is Cover then you'll need a bank to vouch for you. You quite literally cant NOT pay your last month's rent, your creditor will pay and then charge you a fee.
This has nothing to do with paying rent or previous tenants being annoying or anything else. Not renting to foreigners is policy in many places, not an exception. Dont make stuff up to defend a country you've never lived in.

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Why do people in this thread get so defensive when someone says something about Japanese people you aren’t Japanese? What exactly is making you be a white knight rn?

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>>4512072
What part of "every country" did you not understand? I don't rent out to people on temp work visas either no matter how much you pretend guarantors are an air-tight solution, and if I lived in a country that would allow it I would also just state "no foreigners" instead of pissing about with settled status, indefinite visas and other bullshit.

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>>4512415
The part where we're talking about how renting work in Japan, imbecile. Why would I give a fuck how renting works on the US or Denmark or Colombia or Mali? I know how renting works in Japan because I've been the rented and the rentee and I know people that have been VERY heavily encouraged to put "no foreigners" on the contract because it was a good address and having ungabunga americans around would devalue the property and also they were lazy and unclean.
You simply dont know what you're talking about.

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>>4512755
Because if the same shit happens everywhere else your argument about it being particular to Japan doesn't hold much water. Have you tried to rent in any other country where you weren't a citizen or are you just talking out of your arse about how difficult Japan makes it with no comparison whatsoever?

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>>4512841
Japan is the only place I've lived where there are explicit "No Foreigners" lines on rentals. It was never about paying or not, payment is secured from the get-go. They simply dont want foreigners living in their apartment.
Japan is just racist, I dont know what gets you so worked up about this. I could introduce you with people that have real estate with "no for rent to foreigners" in their ads. Its because they DO NOT want foreigners.

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>>4512914
I'll take that as a no then. You are basing it on experiences of Japan alone and claiming that this is a unique situation to Japan.

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>>4513111
Most of Europe, the US, China (for several years, multiple different apartments), SK and Cuba, in no order.
I've never, ever, in my life, seen a "no foreigners" sign outside of Japan, or at least not one so public and normalized one. I dont doubt china and SK have their own no foreigners rules but Japan is the only place that outright tells you "Not for rent to foreigners" in a signed email with a logo.
What other place has "no foreigners" clauses on leases?

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Didn’t read

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>>4512914
>Japan is the only place I've lived where there are explicit "No Foreigners" lines on rentals.
There are "slav girls only" lines in Russia.

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>>4513247
Most other places will word it using citizenship/visa status to placate the pearl-clutchers like you, this is definitely true in Europe although there are numerous NGOs specifically designed to help migrants bypass this and they can be very effective at doing so. China's biggest part state-run letting agency announced they were enacting a "no foreigners" rule last year, this was international news, maybe you're just behind. Don't know about the US or Cuba, maybe you're right about them.

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>>4513622
>visa status
Yeah not the same as foreigners. You also need a visa to rent in Japan, and if your guarantor is not your visa issuer you're going to raise some eyebrows. The issue is that if you're on an permanent residence visa and have Shinzo Abe as your personal unlimited guarantor, the no foreigners rule still applies. Thats what ti means, no foreigners.
> this is definitely true in Europe
Im European and living in Europe right now and no the fuck it isnt. This isnt the norm anywhere in europe you fucking spastic.
Publicly and nonchalantily denying service to a permanent resident because he wasnt born there? Delusional.

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>>4513813
If you're on an permanent residence visa and have Shinzo Abe as your personal unlimited guarantor you are not a citizen.

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>>4479866
first day on 4chan?

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>>4479941
Fuck off tranny.

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>>4490193
>>4490258
>>4490590
So Nijinigger stuff was true about their fans? Wow.

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>>4513930
Never in a trillion years would a place in Europe deny rent to someone because they're not a citizen. At most they'd ask you for an external guarantor and thats pushing it. If you have a permanent residence card and proof of funds this literally doesnt happen, I dont know why you insist it does when we're both from europe and we've both rented property, probably.
It does happen in Japan though, thats my point. That Japan is the only place where this happens.

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>>4476240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGFMxC4Y_b4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB6TUn-kVXs
Katou Junichi coined the term.

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>>4512249
Wapanese honor

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>>4514283
who?

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>>4514603
Very big, old time japanese youtuber that absolutely despises vtubers.
But he likes Marine.

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>>4512249
They don’t want their world view of Japan being the perfect society being shattered.

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>>4514740
why the favoritism tho?

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>>4514755
My own opinion of Japan over the past 2 years went from
>Fucking based and cool
to
>Wtf is wrong with these weirdos? They make good media entertainment and are talented with music but my god why do they do this, act like this, and eat raw shit!?"

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>>4514918
He already liked her back during the mikarin days. He's a hardcore OG fan.

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>>4515065 (me)
And this is all thanks to Japanese vtubers and JP normal streamers sharing what they do on a daily basis or talking about their day. Real eye opener. You wouldn't get this kind of info from a fucking weeb that since their perspective on things is through their own possibly warped lens.

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>>4515175
why the hate on vtubers then? this gook sounds dumb as fuck

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>>4475083
Literally who?

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>>4475083
Wow I actually understood this. People were pissed the blizz gave early access to classic wow to fucking ethots that never played the game over players that have been around since the beginning. Of course the ethots stopped playing after a week or so.

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>>4515322
I won't be spoonfeeding this one.

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>>4514740
>that absolutely despises vtubers
He toned town his hate a lot recently, not that it helped change his cancerous fanbase. Also the rrat that he's fucking Pekora was pretty big for a while.

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>>4475083
>Imagine playing WoW, for years, kinda asmongold like, and then pokimane gets into it for about 4 months and because of that she is invited as a commentator as if she knew shit about the game,
Imagine playing a competitive game for years just for your sole purpose of fulfilling your lifelong dream of becoming a commentator.

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>>4478593
If they invited Matsuri for analysis, sure
but if they invited Matsuri to become a cute girl on the show, then who cares?

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>>4501805
Guy is at least Divine 5, I played against him once
he's definitely not "shit" or "casual"
is there anyone in dota2 casting pool that is as extroverted as him? thats literally his main selling point, the rest is just cucked former gamers

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>>4502216
anon, that's normal everywhere you go, if you don't work hard expect to be treated like garbage, fuck social media for making that meaningless

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>>4509949
yes, everyone in the world is subhuman scum, thanks for the revelation fatty