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44655513 No.44655513 [Reply] [Original]

>Parasocial relationships are apparently...LE BAD!
I don't get it. What's wrong with having someone you dearly love constantly on your mind and dedicating everything you do to that someone in an attempt to get away from the dreaded normality of everyday life?

>> No.44655579

>>44655513
They just scared of death threats caused by their lies

>> No.44655628

>>44655513
because it's delusional, unrequited love. kinda like religion now that I think about it, but that's beside the point

>> No.44655675

>>44655513
>dearly love
sure ya do

>> No.44655714

>>44655513
it’s like rotting away in an opium den. it feels nice, I do it myself sometimes, but I’m not gonna pitch it to normalfags as some beautiful aesthetic experience or anything.

>> No.44655816

Nothing.
"Parasocial" is just one of many current year's buzzwords that have lost all meaning thanks to parroting normalfags. Now it's just code for "thing I don't like",

>> No.44655819

>>44655513
You don't get it anon it only applies to female stremers because they aren't good entertainers and only have an audience of incels and lonely man only make stremers are true stremers

>> No.44655824

>>44655513
The part where it's not reciprocated. But like all things, if you enjoy it, just do it. Even the heartbreak over a yab is an experience that you probably crave and secretly treat as a payoff. There are no ups if there are no downs, after all.

>> No.44655844
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>>44655513
Nothing.

>> No.44655890

>>44655579
this + guilty conscience knowing they're leeching off naive/harmless people for money selling them lies and so they try to write it all off as "I'm not ACTUALLY living scum, NONE of my fans actually-like me right? that'd be weird right haha?"

>> No.44655932

>wahhhhh le life is LE SAD! and dreadful
Kys. You /vt/rannies are indistinguishable from depressed Twitter troons.
Also it's fuckng pathetic to post Korone who is one of the vtubers who are all about just fun and playing games, instead of manipulative whores milking parasocial loser money

>> No.44655963

>>44655513
Parasocial relationships are not bad, the only ones thinking that are normies. Parasocialism is the first thing I search for chuuba to watch.
I suggest to watch this for more insight
https://youtu.be/EpZlgJbvY5k

>> No.44656023

>>44655675
this is the weirdest take I've seen in these threads
>I know what you don't know about you!
sit the fuck back down retard nobody asked

>> No.44656053

>>44656023
>nobody asked
ironic

>> No.44656437

>>44656053
you don't pass the triple digit iq required to safely handle a computer, remember to keep your helmet on

>> No.44657225

>>44655513
1.It's creepy an clearly not from a healthy mindset.

2.When you react violently to her not doing the things you expect them to do i.e. interact with males or interact with people YOU don't like (gatekeeping Holo & Ninjisanji)

3. Spending oodles of money of the vtuber instead of spending it on yourself or a worthy cause in self explanatory bad, stupid and says a lot about your rotten mental state if you don't see a problem with it

4.If the streamer asks you not to be parasocial, respect their wishes. Perhaps it grosses them out to see you jerk yourself off to them in superchats, fake confessing love etc. You really don't have to do that. Doing that eventually only lreads to people asking the vtuber things about self harm like it happened numerous times already i.e. with Mysta Rias or Hex

>> No.44658269

>>44655513
It's not, people just like using a word they don't know the meaning of and say it's bad because everyone else says it's bad. The internet is a hivemind.

>> No.44659819

>>44657225
literally any kind of repetitive stream watching is parasocial, so don't pretend like there's a "nice" way to do it

just accept that some people in the world are lonely and fucked, including you since you're on this board

>> No.44659842

I don't even watch vtubers, I just come here to gawk at losers.

>> No.44659850
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44659850

>Parasocial? I like to think of it as symbiotic.

>> No.44659905

>>44655513
>LE BAD!
Get outta here Frenchie.

>> No.44659943

All the anti parasocial fags and male beggers are all groomers who think they can get into the inner circle and get exclusive interaction with the girl (especially when they debut as male vtubers). This has been proven again and again.

>> No.44659966

>>44655932
>Also it's fuckng pathetic to post Korone who is one of the vtubers who are all about just fun and playing games, instead of manipulative whores milking parasocial loser money
that's a really good redditor impression but you forgot to say heckin doggo or bring up doom or eekum bokum

>> No.44660043

>>44659842
you are parasocial with /vt/ instead of a streamer

>> No.44660059

>>44655628
Yeah well religion is based too. Jesus is my kamioshi.

>> No.44660081

>>44657225
>1.It's creepy an clearly not from a healthy mindset.
Chat reflects streamer

That basically addresses everything else you posted too

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Parasocial is the most overused fucking word on the internet. Fuck anyone who actually gets worked up about it
https://files.catbox.moe/56e8z3.mp4

>> No.44660175

>>44655513
Its bad because its not fair for the gachikois themselves. It is bad but not in the way the narcissistic bitches on twitter mean.

>> No.44660198

>>44659943
You know I've actually seen this happen personally at least 3 times and never put the pieces together.

>> No.44660207

>>44659966
NTA but she doesn't even make member's posts, compare that to Lui where if you allow push notifications on your phone it simulates having a needy girlfriend who texts you all day. Now THAT is parasocial.

>> No.44660310

>>44659943
I do think random normalfags from twitch who have a really distorted understanding of the word and were taught it's supposed to be "bad" just parrot whatever the streamer tells them to think, nevermind the fact you can be parasocial for someone without it being sexual at all.

However with vtubers I think pretty much yeah a lot of it is just masking intent. You know, they'd be the types to go "oh noo of course I'm not parasocial that's for losers!!" and pretend to have a GF or be married or something to try to get a chuuba to let her guard down and get closer and closer to her.

Reminds me of the many times there were people super loudly outspoken about anime lolis on twitter later getting literally arrested for actual CP. Not exactly the same thing but there's an echo there of performative public denouncing of something to clear suspicion off yourself.

>> No.44660388

>>44660207
not having GFE != not being parasocial.

>> No.44660389

>>44655932
>>44660207
There is no grey area, you are guilty of manipulating lonely losers once you make yourself an anime girl instead of just streaming camless

>> No.44660428

>>44655513
>too retarded to understand that the definition of parasocial varies wildly between people

>> No.44660503

>>44655513
>break up with gf
>find out some vtubers do GFE
>be looked down upon like a weirdo because i enjoy it and it stops me from feeling so lonely everyday
I just cant win...

>> No.44660623

>>44660310
>>44659943
In effect because vtubing is in essence just girls being socialite panhandlers in public but in cute anime form, there is almost no conceivable reason to watch them that -isn't- parasocial in at least some way, because few of them are legit entertainers that you'd gladly keep on several hours a day every day for years nonstop, the cuteness/sexiness absolutely factors in as part of what makes it entertaining for viewers.

Given that essentially the entire medium is parasocial, to pretend you're above it is to flat out be fucking dishonest with yourself and with your peers. To try to force this dishonest illusion that we're not all here at least in part because chuubas give you a more personal friend-like feeling than the usual media we consume is a disservice trying to force the community to not be completely honest with itself which is both cowardly and dangerous in the long run.

>> No.44660642

>>44660310
Yea, the first step is always trying to pretend to defend the girl from the "dangerous" parasocial people and hoping to get channel mod to have the power to do so.
Ironically, many cases of fans actually going full schizo over a female streamers are always the fucking mod/inner circle members of the girl

>> No.44660728

I'm really glad some of you guys are waking up.

>> No.44660780

All streaming is inherently parasocial, it's basically a friend simulator.

>> No.44660796

>>44660310
>>44660623
Let's be honest here, we can admit we're parasocial AND criticize people who think other fans are "rivals" for their oshi's attention.

>> No.44660843

>>44660389
camless streamers are also parasocial if they are talking to you, just saying

>> No.44661120

>>44655513
Nothing, just don't cry about it when you get burned.

>> No.44661315

>>44659850
>>44660108
Ami isn't parasocial, no small streamer is. You're directly interacting with her and she's interacting with you.

>> No.44661345

>>44655513
Relationships without reciprocation aren't relationships at all anon, there are lots of reasons to watch vtubers that have nothing to do with needing to pretend you have an anime GF, the dog is cute and funny

>> No.44661473

>>44655819
>They aren't good entertainers
Pippa is some of the best streamer entertainment i've seen in my life, and i'm struggling to think of any males that are good entertainers, usually they're just good at videogames or being the butt of their chats jokes

>> No.44661558
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There isn't a problem with it, there are no good arguments against it (that don't remove personal responsibility) and most people can't define what parasocialism is and thus it's not really worth arguing.

>> No.44661697

>>44655932
>t's fuckng pathetic to post Korone who is one of the vtubers who are all about just fun and playing games
Way to out yourself as an EOP clipwatcher. Korone is like that to you because you don't understand shit of what she says and you aren't a member.

>> No.44661834

>>44661315
thinking it isn't parasocial is the discord mod pit of despair. like the uncanny valley for relationships.

>> No.44661887

>>44661558
>Most people can't define what parasocialism is
It's a relationship without reciprocation, simple as

Watching vtubers isn't parasocial, throwing money to a streamer with thousands of viewers because they're totally your best friend or GF and just don't know it yet is parasocial

>> No.44661889

>>44655513
Stop improving yourself and enjoying life, it makes masses feel bad about themselves and elites unhappy

>> No.44661892

>>44661834
define parasocial

>> No.44662132

>>44661892
a relationship with an entertainer or personality where the entertainer is the co-focus of a larger group's emotional investment while the entertainer's emotional investment is spread amongst the whole. in other words an unbalanced dynamic where one person bears the disproportionate responsibility but also benefits disproportionately.
yes that applies to 2views too. treating it like a normal relationship is creepy

>> No.44662217

>>44662132
that's not the actual definition of a parasocial relationship but fine, now explain why you think it's a bad thing

>> No.44662252

>>44662217
i didn't say it was a bad thing retard read the actual words, and I don't care what the dictionary says

>> No.44662295

>>44662252
>read the actual words
>I don't care what the dictionary says
ironic

>> No.44662363

Woman who say this wouldnt survive for a second if people stop giving them unconditional love and praises

>> No.44662434

>>44662295
you don't need a dictionary to speak English if you aren't ESL

>> No.44662527

>>44655513
You'll see when the VTuber you obsess over stops - because no one is going to do that job forever - and it sends you into depression and you eventually kill yourself because you've never maid any meaningful connection in your life and without funny haha dog you realize just how empty your heart has become.

Enjoy the rope my friend, remember: It's supposed to break your neck for a quick death, not slowly choke you out.

>> No.44662532

>>44655628
Unrequited definitely. But i wouldn't call religions delusional. Unless they're not Christianity. All the others are cringe.

>> No.44662564

>>44655890
Calm down with insults my man
You sound like a failed indie or a disillusioned unicorn

Market provided an audience. Vtubers filled the hole. Theyre doing what theyre good at. If youre going to feel entitled or owed something from them, it's your delusion. Your feelings dont matter

>> No.44662567 [DELETED] 

>>44662527
41% projection

>> No.44662572

>>44662527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-ObB_S_qZo

>> No.44662673

>>44662527
Seek help

>> No.44662780

>>44655513
Kiara said they were good

>> No.44664559

>>44655513
>What's wrong with having someone you dearly love constantly on your mind and dedicating everything you do to that someone in an attempt to get away from the dreaded normality of everyday life?
theres nothing wrong with it

>> No.44669463

>>44655513
ogey

>> No.44671488

If I'm being honest I think that Ludwig forever damaged the word parasocial, because of that video that he released years ago.

>> No.44671565

>>44655513
sure thing simp

>> No.44671612

>>44655513
>What's wrong with having someone you dearly love constantly on your mind and dedicating everything you do to that someone in an attempt to get away from the dreaded normality of everyday life?
that's not what a parasocial relationship is you dumb fuck you just described a fucking school crush.

>> No.44671830

>>44671488
We'll take it back and flip it into positive.

>> No.44671877

>>44671612
One sided love. Same shit.

>> No.44671964

>>44655513
What's wrong with it is that women should live in fear not love. You can't count on a women loving her audience but you can sure as hell count on her fearing for her bottom line.

>> No.44672318

>>44655513
Nothing. This world owes you nothing. But if you want to make a difference someday, let me know. We will seek utopia together.

>> No.44672571

>>44672318
Tell me more about that mein kampf guy.

>> No.44673087

>>44671830
I wish more people would, because honestly there's nothing wrong with parisocial relationships. So long as you realize that they exist and that you are never going to be somebody in that person's life that they actually love and care about. If you don't go full schizo basically and and realize that you are just watching an entertainer, then there is nothing wrong with it .
The streamers themselves usually enjoy the relationship too, because it's nice to have a positive feedback loop .
There are countless great videos by different chuubas about the fact that parasocial relationships aren't necessarily a bad thing, but unfortunately flesh streamers who hate their audiences have forever ruined the word

>> No.44675653

>>44655513
You know I don't care. It's your problem.

>> No.44676433

>>44661887
>It's a relationship without reciprocation, simple as
So parent-child interactions are parasocial?

>> No.44677386

I was for parasocial relations until the cold hard reality that they were entertainers dawned on me and they were never going to chase me like I did them. If a Vtuber started commenting on my Twitter like Rushia used to do my guard might break. However.
When I started streaming I said I wouldn't do it because I didn't like how it felt when I did it but I remember my chatters names and like talking to them so...not sure how to NOT be parasocial with chat on both ends.

>> No.44677475

>>44655513
There are way more negatives than there are positives. It may be beneficial to someone for a specific time period, but it becomes extremely depressing sooner or later and becoming an hero because of a chuuba is not why I'm going to hell

>> No.44677484

>>44660059
Yikes.

>> No.44677555

Donating to hasan piker is as parasocial as donating to a vtuber is

>> No.44677776

>>44655513
there's nothing wrong with being parasocial. just keep insisting that vtubing is inherently parasocial to gatekeep those retarded normalfags for the betterment of our hobby.

>> No.44680241

>>44655932
LE WHOLESOME CHUNGUS DOGGERINO

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>>44655513
>dedicating everything you do to that someone in an attempt to get away from the dreaded normality of everyday life?
Is that what it means to have someone as your oshi? That's kind of fucking dumb, isn't it?

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