/warkop/ - Warung Kopi

[Anonymous No.]

Duet with Suisex Edition

>What is /warkop/ about?
A place to chill and talk in-depth about behind the scenes of Indonesian VTubers in general. We also talk about the Indonesian VTuber market, whether it be rumors, numbers, demographics, auditions, debuts, graduations, etc.

Resource:
https://vtuber.asia

Previous thread: >>44207630

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yopi asking for it, i cant taking it anymore. i want to unbutton her pants and take a good sniff for 30 seconds and proceed to bury my face in her butt.

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>>44529449
>Tori Kaizoku
Isn't this a bar? I think I have heard of them before.

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mfw my ISP just blocked all hentai sites and even green boards so I had to go back to using VPN like an indihomo peasant

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>>44530511
Yea it's a JP styled bar in Kuningan, so it'll be a fan event where they sing chuubas, utaites and vocaloid songs. But I do have one question tho, is it ogey for them to put Suisei there as per cover rules?
https://twitter.com/ProjectLivium/status/1632657115339972610?t=Qe9cFwZ0tF_fA3ZoJUgEuQ&s=19

Also this happened yesterday
https://twitter.com/LiveTengoku/status/1632576744774418432?t=OoSxNtXbcSnQ4puF99-YPA&s=19
Should more agencies consolidate like this in the future as the competition intensifies among smol corpos?

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>>44530991
You could just use Cloudflare DNS. If you are using chrome you can go to setting to enable it. But you still need VPN if you want to open catbox because catbox block indo IP

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>>44531278
>>44530991
No need to go that far, change local host, insert your own dns. Don't ask me for details though, it's been years since i've played around with it.

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>>44531278
Fuck forgot I had that turned off, last time I needed to use it was like 2019

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N6MVW1zDTQ
I'm going to try watching Harris before Miti stream. Not sure what to expect, really. Except for the fact that he's been doing absen for a while now.

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>>44531809
Very clear from the get-go that he's the Indonesian NijiEN. Look, Simpthias can get very cultish, but at least we blend among the more casual viewers. Harris' livechat is just full of young girls obsessed by him. I won't say that it's bad, just that I feel out of place watching him, heh.

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https://twitter.com/EpelEvelyn/status/1633085913504030722
>Epel's back online
My goodness, I'm so glad for her.. I was like super concerned for her but now I'm happuy she's getting better

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I love this Miti start screen. Just her being in awe by the polygonal capybara spinning. Somehow encapsulates her personality.
Watch her stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFSEdthU0GI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBISLRr1EY
>ENTER Cae
Are AKA the only ones checking Hogwarts aside from holo?

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>>44531054
>is it ogey for them to put Suisei there as per cover rules
They really shouldn't imo. Because it could create misunderstanding that Suisei is gonna attend or it's backed up by hololive when it's not.
But welp, as along as cover doesn't know then it's okay I guess.

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>>44532527
A lot of AKA playing that game after cupang drama to clear their name

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Some IDchuubas are opening memberships as we speak rn, check if it fits your taste

>Naya Ishvara | DigiKagi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whsDr-tvqEI

>Astelica Kasdea | one of biitertaste chuubas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cCbyxut4oQ

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>>44532527
I'm sure a bunch of indies and corpos play the game too. Just that the game is very expensive and heavy for most people to stream. Miti plays HL in her second stream (and no, not because of the backlash, but because she mostly plays games in her second channel now).

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>>44533428 (me)
I meant her second channel, not her second stream.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbmYMus_2ZY
yes i know that, just because a fleshtuber who's been on vtuber market before says that he moved on from IDvtubers, doesnt really mean the end of IDvtuber as a whole.
but it still begs the question, is IDvtuber really on recline phase?

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>>44533789
Anon, it's just him buying a Pekora figure. I don't think he's being serious about it.

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>>44533478
does she announce it on her SNS or she'd just go guerilla whenever she's up to it?

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>>44535450
Yes, on Twitter and I think on her community posts too.

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>>44533789
what happen with his investment in virtunix?

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>>44533212
Cuci kolam moment.
They're not even trying to hide it. lol

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>>44535666
A massive failure, which is probably why he said that as a sort of light hearted regret. Anyway, vtuber in ID is not reclining at all. The growth has slowed down, but it's still growing.

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>>44538252
Yeah, that's why it takes more than just money to win ID market, IDcorpos were never short of investment within and beyond ID, but without the right talent to attract viewers, their endgame will be "YOU FAILURE LA"

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>>44530991
imagine indihomo kek

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>>44538252
Once I saw some VTubers reaching and maintaining 100 CCV from last year, I'm very sure that the market is anything but reclining. I'd rather say that it's stabilizing.

Virtunix is sad. Mira hasn't returned in nearly a year. Other members of them barely grown or straight-out reclined. Remember when Luthfi hyped that "VTuber anak SMA" thingy, with the "accidental doxing incident"? It's Lian (https://www.youtube.com/@niluhliangantarivirtunix4416)), but she's just... there. I bet some of you didn't know she existed until this post.

Yet another reminder that building a VTuber agency is hard in a market where individual VTubers with "kepribadian menonjol" is highly valued. It's expensive to invest in someone that may or may not succeed (AKA didn't suffer from this, they just pouch potential indies). Group loyalty is a luxury that only some earlier VTuber agency can have. For now. Digikagi and Livium seems very promising and unlike Virtunix, they have a cohesive group identity and marketing.

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>>44538252
ID market is completely reliant on Hololive's market acquisition power. The existence of ID3 completely revitalizes the market and put virtual youtubers to a wider audience.

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>>44540623
>Mira hasn't returned in nearly a year.
Didn't some threads ago an anon found out that she's somewhat reincarnated?

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>>44540623
Virtunix's biggest yab was 2 years ago but i can't remember if it's before >>44535666 happened or right at the time it happened
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/jxkuxa/comment/gcxkj2f/

And i guess it's hard for them to recover from that. Virtunix 2022 looks so reclining, aside from maybe Nasstasha Lubov

also, another piece of memory i have about them is that UmiShio used to be there for a bit from Jan 2021 https://twitter.com/umi_to_shio/status/1353219800676225024 until June 2021 https://twitter.com/virtunix/status/1399362803551465476 and then go indie for 4 months before finally rebranding as... yes, Gema Gathika, the wolfo who is now in AKA.

UmiShio's livestream & vids are unlisted, but you can find them somewhere if you dive deep enough

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ar5k1IBPqc&ab_channel=UtadaZoeyCh.%E6%AD%8C%E7%94%B0%E3%81%9E%E3%81%8A%E3%81%84
Zoey

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>>44532222
This is so wholesome if we ignore the source of those share comments actually from pv kek

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>>44543932
Lol what? I wouldn't expect that to come from there at all lemao

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Do you guys know what "recline" means btw, genuine question since some of the post that use that term feels wrong.

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>>44543932
>https://twitter.com/EpelEvelyn/status/1633085913504030722
Nothing good ever comes from that group, but this is an exception. Good for them for not hating Epel. Not even the insane could hate Epel.

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https://youtu.be/n-DiMdNq1ww

hmmmm strangely familiar... 3years ago.... hmmmmm

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>>44529449
>Suisex
DEISEX

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>>44529449
WAKR UP WAKE UP WAKE UP

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>>44544961
Yeah that's another abi post but it's pretty wholesome and people tag her to that post

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Just saw some kikebookers still camping at cupang's twt. They really have no life eh

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https://twitter.com/ibrahimradhiah/status/1632556218454806529?t=7NZPfOhWPPDTrKzwOuJsgQ&s=19
At least in ID we just tebak agama pituber, just learned that some would do worse than that in Negeri Jiran

Also there's "a thread" coming from one of MY Vtuber about this, I don't usually agree with twittards but I feel we could learn something from this twitter thread for dealing with future yabs or dramas /here/ or beyond /vt/ like in VPU/SGV https://twitter.com/nyctotherapy/status/1632666379416649729

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>>44555624
>Learn something
About how twittards will just swallow anything even if there's no example and no known effect caused to vtubing sphere there?

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>>44546769
Lemme add this and let's see how y'all connect the dots
https://youtu.be/PFieqeEpJVY

btw i thought he'd return to https://youtube.com/@Shiraitatenari or https://youtube.com/@shiraitatenari8433
guess not. Those 2 channels' songs got privated tho because i remember some of his covers there

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>>44554474
Rent-free behavior, kek.

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>>44554474
In an alternate universe where cupang got raped in her childhood and she developed penis-phobia, she would agree with jk Rowling's opinion and having some filter to counter Twitter's SJW views
She wouldn't be in this situation

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>>44559958
>Cupang would be a terf at an alternate universe
If that's the case, I don't think she'd ever consider herself to become a chuuba

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>>44554474
play stupid games, win stupid prizes

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>>44559958
she doesn't need to be raped to become a terf, she just has to be british, a much easier and worse fate.

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>>44560777
No. cupang would be a normal person
Since the majority of people even those who dont consider themselves feminists would agree that these people are not women
>>44560916
I feel sorry for her but she's too stupid to understand her surroundings. She's immoral but she doesn't think that she's immoral. Even i experienced it during my adolescent that I'm somewhat an oddball than my peers. I know that I'm immoral and in the shadow is where i should belong. But Airi? She grew up even more sheltered than me. I don't know what kind of environment she lived in. She probably never met 'the majority/the average Indonesian' in her life or something akin to that

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>>44559958
Personally, I won't wish any VTuber to get raped for any reason whatsoever, but you do you, anon.

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>>44558625
oh fuk its just recently uploaded and hes also stream on twitch niicceeeeeee

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>>44562389
Don't be scared
It's just a hypothetical scenario

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>>44559958
more likely she'd be even more lgbt friendly since most advocates of things are those affected by it, being raped wouldnt make her hate trannies unless it was someone who was trans that did it but the amount of those cases are so rare that being raped by a normal person is way higher.
>>44561788
>Since the majority of people even those who dont consider themselves feminists would agree that these people are not women
majority of people dont actually give a shit if someones a woman or not unless theyre told to give a shit or are affected by it like the pikamee situation.
conservatives and religious groups are strung along by each other and politicians to rile their bases to partake in shit so they can stay in power and do whatever they want.
trannies would probably not be as annoying if they didnt have to feel like each day of their lives was fighting, you can see this by how gay people and weed these days no one in the west really minds unless someone is stuck up and unwilling to change.
>I know that I'm immoral and in the shadow is where i should belong.
ima be honest with you anon, youre probably not as immoral as you say you are, youve just been fed ideas that make you hate or think less of yourself and others and you accepted it because you had no other choice if you wanted to survive.
change is hard and im not demanding you change but do consider that even if youve accepted the shadows, others are unwilling to live in those shadows.

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>>44530511
Tori is good, at least the one in Fatmawati. Good food, cheap alcohol. I never checked that one in Kuningan, because the impression that I get from that place is that weeb-themed hangout place for normies, kek

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Pagi /warkop/! Thoughts on this? Also, CMIIW, is this the first local corpo acquisition by other local corpo?: https://twitter.com/YkzProduction/status/1632576740844503040

It's been some days since the announcement, but since /warkop/ was about to die when that announcement is live, I've waited for the new thread to post it.

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>>44533789
https://twitter.com/lhalimawan666/status/1633172880778473481
Now he's riding the wave on "neutral stance" of staying silent about things like this

>>44545068
Oshit i meant decline in >>44542620 omg damn phone keyboards

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>>44563612
>being raped wouldnt make her hate trannies
I think you missed the point. Didn't i say penis-phobia? How could you find a middle point to satisfy both them and trans people? And for people who are afraid of penises, where should they go, if they want to go to the toilet?
Even vouching for 5 different type of toilets for different genders make more sense to me than whatever they are trying to do to right now.
>>44564694
I don't know any of these corpos. Who are their most famous chuubas?

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>>44564694
Why every legal paper written by local agency always look like they made by OSIS staff from random middle school. I don't know about the other but holo and niji always have professional well written legal paper. This shit always painful to read, like they didn't even try to be professional at all, no wonder our small indie agency alway end up graduating someone who have problem because they clearly doesn't have capabilities to protect their talent with this kind of incompetency

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>>44565995
i never liked fleshtubers anyway, they are all annoying and cringe af when it comes to chuuba stuff. Latest example being that bang al or whoever his name

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>>44563612
Yep majority don't give a shit until you poke the hornet nest which Airi did
Even those who are on the left-wing are leaving Airi alone. Amaryn, selia and Daem are silent, they wouldn't be caught defending her, they fear the majority.
Nice friends you have there, Airi
I was an idealist like you, but i grew up
Someday you will stop giving shit about being accepted and visible, as long as life is peaceful

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>>44566311(me)
Also they didn't even use real name, is this jusr kind of role playing and I dont get the joke?

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>>44564694
The logo kinda reminds me to the mawar corp kek

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>>44566311
>>44566954
because most of them are just group of discord friend with some money from their parent and think they could run a company, no need to be surprised they probably still on collage and never had any experience joining legit organizations or companies.

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>>44567360
iam actually kinda surprised by the average age of indo vtuber, they're relatively young, thats why they made alot of mistakes

[Anonymous No.]

(((MASS GRADUATION MARCH))))

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>>44567901
Its all chindo?
its all highschool to Univ girls?

- always been -

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>>44568810
In Japan? Yeah it's the usual time for students to graduate after all

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>>44564694
Xavvy (the YKZ CEO)

https://twitter.com/Xavvyro
https://yorukaze.xyz/our-team/

prolly age around 22-25yo. kinda surprised kikitondo is in their team. Kikitondo is an ancient vtuber writer, been on the scene since 2018. are you here kikitondo, give us a sign

About the YKZ-Tengoku battleship, it would be her now:

Tsukiyo Miho :
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9VZtHQN1GGs5V7vZgvTQ4A

probably a 20-30 ccv vtuber, i dunno

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>>44568896
can't believe i've been entertained by chindo teenagers all along

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>>44569739
https://twitter.com/aurelmayorii/status/1631545503799468039/photo/1

many such cases

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morning

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>>44530511
basically rich wibu, gamer and cosplayer hangouts

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>>44565995
CUPANG DID NOTHING WRONG

Fleshtuber gtfo, better that he join that sepong2an grup

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>>44530991
What ISP is this? I'm planning to change ISP to CBN and would like to avoid unnecessary stuff

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>>44571111
If you are one of her (warukovi) friends
Go defend her on Twitter
Don't be a bunch of cowards

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https://www.youtube.com/@TakashiAraa/streams

who?

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>>44571344
MNC

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>>44571350
And prolong the fucking drama? This is all those Facebookfags wanted, a raison d'etre to attack Cupang more. That she has a bunch of white knights, and it must mean that she should be attacked more in order for them to "win".

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>>44565995
>vdubur
Ain't this one of the guys who attention whored so much on kobo's chat during her viral era? lmao he's so mad that he didn't get to taste the kobocunny unlike that pngtuber guy and his circle who collabed and played a lot with her off-stream huh

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i sense the smell of bocil penyevong group in here (GTFO)

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>>44572187
Just be a loyal friend

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>>44572539
They are not stupid, anon. They know the drama will spread if they react to it in ANY WAY.
>>44572278
I can feel it. And I don't need meds for this, because it's real. /warkop/'s relationship with Cupang hasn't been this negative before.

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>>44572671
>/warkop/'s relationship with Cupang hasn't been this negative before.
It would be stranger if warkop defend Cupang

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>>44529449
Is this a karaoke event? Attending this is going to break opsec on so many levels

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>>44566125
this will be my last response on the topic because this is getting off topic.

dont most anon assume every mtf trans person cuts their dicks off, meaning trans people wouldnt fall into those with penis' to have the phobia about?
most victims of rape are more likely to afraid of men in general, rather then exclusively trans and that doesnt even take into account their views on trans.
> And for people who are afraid of penises, where should they go, if they want to go to the toilet?
should we kill off every spider because a majority of people are afraid of them?
because the argument of "think of the person with the phobia" is useless since theyre just individuals at most, there's no arachnophobia community.
also most phobias are visual or thought based, any passing mtf trans person isnt going to be noticed and they would be sitting on the toilet because theres no urinals in the womens bathroom, so how would anyone actually know if theyre trans if theyre passing.
>Even vouching for 5 different type of toilets for different genders make more sense to me than whatever they are trying to do to right now.
while i agree having a 3rd bathroom for those in between would be a better outcome to avoid headache, the problem is that it could quickly become treated like the drinking fountains and back of the bus shit blacks went through because of how much demonizing of trans people happens these days.
>>44566649
trust me, i have a pretty peaceful one myself but thats why i debate, i still want others to have better lives or at least prevent our world from going backwards into the same pitfalls weve fallen into multiple times before.

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>>44571350
> warkop
> steak in a plate

yeah, i bet they never went to real warkop before

jokes aside, i still don't know why they named their circle warukovi

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>>44573245
Warukovi is the name of Daem's freetalk series. It precedes /warkop/.

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>>44572941
yes, expect bunch of cosplayer, ex-idol, wibu etc attending (also vtubers)

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>>44573552
Jesus fuck if everyone and their grandma is breaking opsec, this tempts me to break mine too. How bad would it be for an aspiring vtuber to take part in this thing? I'm a sucker for weeb karaoke events

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>>44573552
Oh fuck, I think I now remember a VTuber (and cosplayer, too?) and her boyfriend supposedly messing around in their bar. If I'm not wrong, she's in an agency and her friends jumped in to defend her.

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>>44572671
>/warkop/'s relationship with Cupang hasn't been this negative before.
>expecting this Maduranese steel-harvesting forum to defend any woman
Even you can find other hugbox in the freaking Facebook groups.

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>>44575844
/warkop/ is never a hugbox for her in the first place, we did lambast her for the Snowdrop thing (although it's mostly to Mine) and the hybrid VTuber tweets. But come on, this drama is clearly fabricated by Facebook.

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>>44530991
That's too far anon. Indonesian ISPs are not that smart and most can be bypassed by using Cloudflare DNS

The smartest (for me) so far is Tri and their cronies. Need to use goodbyedpi to access blocked site and green boards

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>>44574420
>>44574420
ohh i remember this one, the pelakor drama

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>>44576380
>this drama is clearly fabricated by Facebook.
I feel like they don't gib a fuck about who fabricates it because this issue matters a lot to indo society, their point here is simple
>When in Rome, live as the Romans do
>When you cater to ID audience, respect ID social norms
Like cmon it's simple, I like cupang a lot but if she can't respect ID social norms, don't be surprised if people gonna run out of tolerance for her, just like what ID did when Disney go woke

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>>44576380
Then stop talking about it and don't bite anything that talk about it. As for the girl herself, well she's on her own in this. Hope this will be a lesson for her not to put her nose into every drama, especially LGBT related drama which is still a gray area in the ID fandom

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>>44577113
Not wrong. I guess she is very open about it because VTubing is one of the few place where at least LGBT+ is in a relatively grey area rather than being straight-out rejected.
>>44577205
Sure thing, anon.

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>>44573552
Is Larissa rochefort a vtuber yet? >>44575844
>expecting this Maduranese steel-harvesting forum to defend any woman
NTA
It's probably because warkop never gives any femanon YWNBAW
warkop is an anomaly in /vt/
>>44573082
If they do cut their dicks off then i wouldn't have any problem with them, they can't impregnate women. And like Lucinta Luna could be branded as safe and allowed in any female-only space
But the problem is (in other country) they're trying to include those who haven't gone with this procedure or hasn't proven to have gender-dysphoria, which is controversial. Sexual harassment that might cause unwanted pregnancy and the sexual harassment that is not are two different concerns with various complexities.
>most victims of rape are more likely to afraid of men in general,
This is true. What they remember is the penis, not the assailant'a makeup, or dress, or wigs. The outside appearance is not the concern, anon. It's the dick
>should we kill off every spider because a majority of people are afraid of them?
No. But you should have enough tact to not shove those spiders to their faces and listen to their concerns.
>is useless since theyre just individuals at most, no community
So is it okay to trample on them because they don't have a community?
Your community is not even recognized in this country yet, but you dare to speak like that. It makes me think those antis are correct.
>the problem is that it could quickly become treated like the drinking fountains and back of the bus shit blacks went through because of how much demonizing of trans people happens these days.
>Demonizing trans people
What kind of crack are you smoking?
They have been on the television, you zoomer. Compared to that, i don't remember there's a lesbian or gay entertainer.
If the majority is fighting back against you, then it's your fault for taunting them too much. Even though trans are relatively accepted in Indonesia compared to LGB, you ruined your reputation yourself.
LGB could just change their religion, meanwhile trans couldn't shut up about how they should be buried according to their choosen gender (Dorce). That's just a burrial ritual, not to mention with shalat berjamaah.

I'm not religious (agnostic), but you need to think about how to live with religious population too, anon
If there's a third gender-neutral toilet, please go there and don't disturb others, women and men would use that third toilet too if you feel lonely/discriminated.
Let those female-only toilets for the ukhtis, the hijabis and syar'is.
Don't be a stubborn child, ada saatnya lu harus mengalah, maka relakan lah niat untuk menyusup ke toilet cewek itu saudaraku awokwokwok. Ingat Pancasila sila 1, yg gak akan menjadikan Indonesia jadi ateis, ingat mayoritas juga. You need to think pragmatically, mau gak mau org org beragama itu ada disekitar kita. Se'kiri-kiri'nya gw, gw gak lupa daratan. Gw gak tutup mata telinga sama org org beragama. Kompas gw cuma 1 : bukan si barat, bukan si Arab, tapi leluhur gw. Jangan LGBT aja yg lu pikirin, lu punya gak temen cewek yg muslim hijab? Pikirin mereka juga.

[Anonymous No.]

Let us reconcile our differences with sex.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Layla is a shortstack. She's only 152 cm tall.

[Anonymous No.]

More Layla.

[Anonymous No.]

I forgot Epel has a lewd tag. This is an edit made by Fure (yes). She can't be this hot...

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that kikegroup should be nuked. its the source of doxx, troll, drama, harrasment and is being used by several circle. its a containment breaker site that shouldnt exist in the 1st place. Every each member of that cursed group should be considered as enemy of humanity and should be trampled with any means available. Any vtuber that ever mentioned that group post should repent now

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Btw ges, something happened in the clipsphere earlier, people we're roasting the shit outta mang ujang in various IDchuuba chats
https://youtu.be/Edz4RVEj_D8
https://youtu.be/o-cQCnIu6KE
Maybe we really a galchuuba who knows her divegrass reps in ID rn, if one jeketimem can openly admits herself as a mang ujangfag, surely there's a chance to find ones like her in future chuuba auditions

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I will return with more finds of ID VTuber lewds.

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>>44578860
i wonder what sex with epel feels like

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>>44578418

Fat Lele tskr

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>>44578967
>cum on her
>"WADYAUHH"

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>>44533107
>it could create misunderstanding that Suisei is gonna attend
It already has, I clicked on this thread because I saw Suisei and thought she was gonna be in another concert

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>>44578946
at least post the sauce if you're going with that route

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>>44578860
have you seen how thicc she is with her current model?
if i didnt know better, shes asking for lewds.

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>>44579591
https://twitter.com/LynEvilyn
This person retweets every lewd Epel art under the sun, even the DeviantArt-tier ones.
>>44579600
DOBURE-SAMA, PLEASE DRAW EPEL, AAAIEEEEEEEE

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>>44572671
> /warkop/'s relationship with Cupang hasn't been this negative before.
You are wrong, but I agree with warkop need stop mentioning lgbt shit. This is not /pol/. I stand with cupang 100% wrong but we already take this discussion too far and too long without adding new context that mentioning vtuber.

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>>44579600
Epel got the same mama as Miti with that new model and damn that mama has a track record in making seggs tier chuubas, if anything, it was Epel who was struggling to nerf her seggs value there because that mama is just that gud in making chuubas look ultra seggs

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>>44577113
>but if she can't respect ID social norms, don't be surprised if people gonna run out of tolerance for her
I think she'll not respect those norms, Awanama. She's stubborn: the more you attack her, the more she'll not move it. If someone thinks she can do whatever she can, then to stop doing something because of something she can't control is the last thing she wants to do. It's a huge insult to her soul; she would rather do anything stupid than just not do anything because she has been told to.

Cupang is a walking yab unless she knows when to stop. And you blame those kikebook dwellers for this mess; they don't start the fire.

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>>44579752
>even the DeviantArt-tier ones.
i kneel

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>>44578884
They'll just sell it and make a new one. Just like SLV

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>>44579895
I need to also mention that Xeapher is Aruri's mama, and guess what? Aruri has her own lewd Twitter account. And she commisioned lewds of herself!
Link: https://twitter.com/Alewdri

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>>44579958
>Cupang is a walking yab unless she knows when to stop. And you blame those kikebook dwellers for this mess; they don't start the fire.
KEK. you know what, the funniest shit is, I just check all kikebook drama group and the last time any of them have post mentioning cupang is 3 days ago. Maybe it's time to accept anon in this thread hate her more than kikebook drawer becuase they feel betrayed by her and tired by her shit.

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>>44580395
i have a feeling aruri is massive yab but she has been holding it

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>>44580664
Still curious on the circumstances of her former persona and why she graduated. She didn't shy from implying that she was *that* VTuber, because I saw a fan of her finding out the connections and she said something along the lines of "welcome back".

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>>44580543
more like this place doesnt have much to talk about daily so were talking about the last thing of real note to happen, it seems thats something it inherited from the /nijiID/ thread

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>>44580543
Most people there already move on because they unanimously agree to hate her, I guess the discussion still continued here because some anon still believe she did nothing wrong. Well it's kinda prove that /warkop/ not an echo chamber and you can have different opinion regarding who is right or wrong. But damn I'm getting tired with this weeklong drama.

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>>44581485
bratty fish 凸ಠ益ಠ)凸 can't shut her mouth (◣д◢) correction is needed ( ｀▽´)Ψミ(/・ω・)/

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>>44573082
>trans person
people who committed genital mutilation ceased to be a proper human being. Normalizing mental illness is the surefire way to ruin civilization and culture. Trannies is and will never be regarded as a normal functioning human being. They should be treated the same as other people with mental illness, with care and ultimately focusing on fixing their mental illness.

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>>44581760
Pls find her and get her parents consent, anon. And correct her so much that she have no time nor space for caring about LGHDTV+ anymore.

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>>44581773
>They should be treated the same as other people with mental illness, with care and ultimately focusing on fixing their mental illness.
anon i dont know how to tell you this but for the most part theyre treated like shit, just like all the other mentally ill, they are however not mentally ill enough be unable to complain about how badly theyre treated by others.
also transitioning is the treatment to the mental illness because no amount of cbt can fix cognitive dissonance like this at this point or they would probably do that in the first place.

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>>44577113
Anon let it go for now. I'm not saying this for her, but for you; it's for your own health. Just strike them again when they try to support LGHDTV+ again so they know not to spread disease in Indonesia.
>>44546769
I saw him in my recommend once and just skipped him. Didn't know it was the CEO. Man.... Is the rat about them gonna graduate in mass is true? I remember Taka saying before the merge(?) that his journey as a vtuber is not even halfway and he will be here for a long time. I guess he just lost motivation. Kinda sad since he was the first one to drag me to this rabbit hole.

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>>44582179
genital mutilation is not the treatment. It is the end for them
>treated like shit
they're literally treated like the fucking literal medieval royalty in the failed civilization at the west but they still kill themselves in the end. They should be treated like shit IF they try to force others normalize their mental illness and if that's enough for them to end their pathetic life, then they're not suited to the real world anyway. Everyone get treated like fucking shit anyway. Majority bullies minority and minority bullies other minorities. The majority gets bullied by rich and powerful. The rich and powerful gets bullied by richer and more powerful and so on. The real world is like that and they don't deserve any special treatment because of their mental illness.

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>>44582179
That's why the anon said with care and ultimately trying to fix their mental illness. It's not unfixable, it's just need a long time. I know a bi guy who loved to watch gay porn but trying to correct himself and succeed. He said now he is grossed out when he watch the same gay porn that he loved to watch. And he even questioned his own past-self sanity after watching the same vid.

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>>44582493 (me)
Sorry wrong tag >>44546769 i meant >>44558625

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>>44582607
KEK too based I actually can't

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>>44582493
>Is the rat about them gonna graduate in mass is true?
Likely. Most of his circle member are beginning to grind for Twitch Affiliate/Partner.
Won't be surprised if they are graduating right after they finished Reza's Campaign

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So "the corn" will be the next one to go after "the otter" huh? Kinda sad but i'm curious about her next step tho. I wonder if she will focusing on her VA works or she will continue her vtubing as an indie OR maybe she got accepted into hololive? Man i really want that to happen, she deserves more than what she got rn...

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>>44583068
Other than Mika, who's potentially stay if mass graduation actually happen?

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>>44583179
Bobon? i dunno

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>>44583179
Derem. She already said that IF everyone is graduating left and right, she will stay until the management tell her to stop

Other than her, probably Riksa, Cia, and Layla. Rest of them (except Mika ofc) implicitly said that they are already at the edge

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>>44583123
Idk, Personally hoping that she focus more on her VA works as her VA portfolio is pretty good from dubbing with Muse ID

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>>44582607
anon do you even understand you have a warped view of reality, like you claim trans people have, when everyones hate mobbing against them now because a bunch of bad apples and shitty allies started the usual twitter shit but somehow theyre also the upper class despite the fact known upper classes rarely ever cares about being shit on because they have money and connections to allow them to be unbothered.
trans only have power on twitter, twitter power is worthless in reality and most of the complainers arent even trans.
ill be honest and say some of them are fucking bad but like most groups bad apples exist but we dont damn every community because of that shit.
im sorry you are so treated poorly on twitter.com that you think youre the underdog in society but i dont see countries now making laws to ban you from existing or you being used by political parties to rile their base up against their opponents

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>>44583342
"Niji ExID" and "Ex Niji ExID"

kek

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>>44583179
Jukut? Despite his low number surprisingly he still consistent with his content

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>>44580543
Cupang has always been a divisive topic in /warkop/, it's almost as if you can only either like her or hate her here

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>>44583342
considering cia has toned down her activity a lot, i dont see her staying.
>>44583667
i couldnt care less about her to be honest, though ive never watch or interact with her to have an opinion.

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>>44583450

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>>44583123
>>44583265
I could see Bobon staying, but he's sick for a long time now and his stream become quite rare these days.
>>44583123
To be honest I hope she and otter will join HoloID gen 4 especially for their great singing voices. Mbak Tiger too if they can help it. But I don't know if they are good at playing games and make it interesting though, that's why I vote them only for their voices.

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>>44583449
>i dont see countries now making laws to ban you from existing or you being used by political parties to rile their base up against their opponents
Anon how old are you? I'm sorry but in reality this kind of thing happen everyday everywhere to any social grup

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>>44583753
I mean, most of us are only that close to her because she's a /here/chuuba, I don't think she'll be that popular here if it wasn't for picrel

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>>44583667
CUPANG DONE NOTHING WRONG (THIS TIME)

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>>44583449
>warped view of reality
that sums up trannies quite well. Nature has given them their objective identity which defines the objective reality. They chopped their dick off and injected estrogen to their veins and pretended to be something they're fundamentally not. They wear dresses in their disgusting deformed body and demand everyone to treat them like a normal human being. The leftists does not give a shit about them beyond seeing them as an object to fuel their savior complex as the newest damsel in distress who needs saving.
>upper class despite the fact known upper classes rarely ever cares about being shit on because they have money and connections to allow them to be unbothered.
you're talking about upper class in the literal sense. The trannies gets treated like an upper class but they still kill themselves because they're mentally ill but nobody even dares to treat them especially in the leftist state. No amount of money can help mental illness if they don't use that money to treat the illness.
>making laws to ban you from existing
if by "banning you from existing" fixing their mental issue and setting them straight, then every single law in every single country in the world should do that. I'm all for treating mental illness in the same level as physical illness but they should be classified as mental illness first. Not a normal state of human being.

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>>44584145
>i promis to be a good fish
>triggered drama bigger than before

need correction

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>Echi: feel like Cewys stills here with us
https://twitter.com/ElaineCelestia/status/1633363156734205952
>Cewys forma de AKA : May she RIP
https://twitter.com/SeliaAisnith/status/1633363958936510468
Jej

Also let's talk about what AKA needs to avoid themselves from being Niji 2.0 in the midst of their mass grads, what will they need to have to safeguard their viewshare as they're now member of big3 in-waiting

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>>44584189
Damn this site for not having 'like' button.
Not only they want others to play their illusion game, they also invade school! Not old enough to drink alcohol but old enough to do irreversible trans surgery that will affect them for the rest of their lives!

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>>44581485
>kinda prove that /warkop/ not an echo chamber
NOOOO the rrat about warkop being controlled by warukovi is crumbling

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>>44584145
talking about herr being /here/

Cupang, I know you read this. I have to give you a credit because you have a balls to make a big drama and become public enemy, when your gimmick as "hybrid" vtuber make your face available everywhere and you also love to visit weebs event as your vtuber pesona. Honestly I don't care about you, but I just want to tell you, if you have any plan to visit weeb event on the future be carefull on your way home/hotel. Remember you are now the enemy of kikebook drewler. If you think they don't dare to do anything to you, remember wibu rohis exist and for them "attacking" someone who protecting lgbt is a holy order. Good luck.

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>>44573245
I mean tbf the pic was more of them in a izakaya than warkop

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>>44584693
They need big achievements if they wants to go big, and avoid doing controversy (read: supporting LGBT+). Doesn't matter how big you are if the normies crowd caught wind of you doing something that is against their norm and value, you are done as an agency.
And if they want big achievement as a vtuber agency, they could recruit members that's good at singing, playing games that they like, or leading convo when they play game/having collab. Bid their time and wait for the opportunity to shine when they got the spotlight.
That's why Kobo got her popularity. Weird and funny name > good at coding > good at convo. Kinda disappointed that she played the same game over and over and at dead hours too. And she's not that good at the games she likes, that's why her chat loves to watch her reaction when play games rather than watching her gameplay. IDK just my 200 rupiah.

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>>44584189
>The leftists does not give a shit about them beyond seeing them as an object to fuel their savior complex as the newest damsel in distress who needs saving.
I feel somewhat attacked. But for my case, i become Leftist because God left me and thus i decide to leave god too, not because i want to be seen as Moral and Just like twitter sjws.
I don't give a shit about being moral and 'leftist' is just a label people in real life attach to me. Honestly i don't know what it means to be leftist kek
>>44584693
>let's talk about what AKA needs to avoid themselves from being Niji 2.0
Competent management

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>>44584693
Since aka want woke audience, I won't be surprised if one of them suddenly support West Papua independence, can't wait to see vtuber version of koman. But hey even if everybody hate you, at least you'll be remember as someone rather than just random unknown vtuber kek.

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>>44585676
>But hey even if everybody hate you, at least you'll be remember as someone rather than just random unknown vtuber kek
You know what they said..
>Bad publicity is this a publicity nonetheless

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>>44585676
AKA is "diverse", but they do learn into details and open to any feedback. In Selia we trust.

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>>44585844
I meant
>Bad publicity is still a publicity nonetheless
WTF is wrong with my typings?

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>>44585612
I forgot to say NTA. I'm not that anon

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>>44582493
Not really a mass graduation but yes, lots of them most likely would graduate this year. Some of them even said on stream that this year will be the last year.

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https://youtu.be/0hI17_nk0Xw
Behold, the hands and arms of our talented Lenad

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>>44584187
CUPANG IS A RETARD

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>>44586799
>some
who?

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>another thread, another talk about /pol/shit and /lgbt/
when will you nigger learn to stop and ignore? goddamit just go to /pol/ or /lgbt/ i dont want to see this culture war shitfest in vtuber thread.
can we just ban or fucking told people who engage in this topic to STFU?
both of you who defend or hating are just fucking retarded, go do that elsewhere nigger. holy shit i'd take starsID timeloop anyday over this shit.

>>44571344
how's CBN? do you can post here or nah? planning to change my ISP as well.
>>44584145
/here/tuber is a mistake, i hate any /here/tuber. good thing Cupang didn't go grifter way like Pippa
>>44531944
>Harris' livechat is just full of young girls obsessed by him.
you understimate how horny our teenage girls are kek, especially there's not a lot of local male chuuba who pander to them.

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>>44583449
Nta
>most of the complainers arent even trans.
I do notice the biggest loudest complains usually came from pansexual (cupang), bisexual (Riski Salminen) and non-binary. They're loud because they don't fear the majority and could blend well in society. I think pansexual is just a label heterosexual uses to make themselves feel special and part of that community
And here i thought these story about multiple sexuality outside of LGBH would just stop only at 2010's Tumblr. These people never grew from their phase and infecting Twitter too
But that anon is right, don't normalize mental illnesses

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https://youtu.be/KOrajjX6JT8
UOHHHH PLIS CRUSH ME, 3RD GRADE OPPAI LOLI!!!

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>>44586799

Name and timestamp, please. We can't rely on a menhera rambling on a member-only stream (unless the audio is leaked)

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>>44587659
>holy shit i'd take starsID timeloop anyday over this shit.
You are asking for this. StarsID would never happen, thanks to the IPO

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any mention about lgbt or /pol/ shit should be reprimanded.
take your culture war goyslop elsewhere, retard.

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>>44587906
It would never stop as long as an anon keep defending cupang's blunder

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>>44587887
I'm still out of loop from Cover's IPO but is it different from enikara IPO? is Series B funding or something right. Not /biz/ guy so i dont understand.
Shame if they're not happening because i want them exist and they turn out to be fine boy that put StarsEN to shame.
>>44586799
Whether its true or not, i'm not shocked if that's the case. nijiID is fucking dead, like legit fucking dead. at least nijiKR is doing well. Main i will be sad for layla if she's graduate and i fucking hate enikara treatment to hana 3d

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't we discuss Deisex instead of /pol/ stuff?
>>44578333
Got more?

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>>44587887
So.. Are cover really gonna do IPO or what? Me still confused bout it, is it a limited funding series or a full blown IPO

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>>44588125
Deilewds is still rare sadly. Such is the life of a smol indie

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>>44588198
Damn it, I hope some baron oils commission her lewd arts for us.

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>>44588058
you can call them retard or something instead trying to bring your culture war shitfest into here, faggot. I dont even like Cupang and I just ignore their retarded fans here.

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>>44588198
Is there an uncensored version of >>44578333?

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>>44588102
If only they make ID and KR to be seperate entity, outside anikara, cmiiw but they do this to virtual real right? They could patner with bilibili too or maybe Muse if they try

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>>44588144
>a full blown IPO
Is that even a thing? It's not like 100% acquisition by investors is possible. No, i mean it's possible but 100% isn't that pretty much selling the company?
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-would-company-sell-51-100-craig-kaiser
For this IPO I heard it's 25% (too lazy to check)

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>>44588422
I think KR doing ok rn, their problem was in bad personnel and once they got rid of them, voila, their hidden potential pops up, ID on the other hand suffers the total opposite of KR, their lifeline was in local staffs, once they got rid of them, lol they become mati semu

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>>44588237
She has fans /here/? Shocking
Where's the poll image when i need it
It's cupang herself posting here

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>>44585413
Kobo valorant spam is fucking hurt her growth, it's fine if she's suck at game as long she's entertaining but she just spam same 1-2 games instead trying to play other games for variety. on top she won't stop collabing with starsJP and starsEN. most of her audience is IOP who nihonggo dekinai and ga bisa b. enggres. like at least if she want to collab with male do it with male fleshtuber or local male chuuba.
>>44588422
Eh i dont think it work, especially not Muse.
they can do that with Virtuareal because they partner with the platform itself, bilibili.
the problem with KR is because they buy from black company agency and re-branded it as nijiKR. while nijiID is from the talent itself, Hana cockblocked her 3D debut because she want having 3D debut together with Taka and Zeta and also >>44588613

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>>44588685
Wait, which Zeta?

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>>44588745
My bad i mean Zea.

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>>44588685
>like at least if she want to collab with male do it with male fleshtuber or local male chuuba.
nah i don't wanna watch sexual harrasment stream

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>>44585413
>good at coding
debut gimmick, haven't seen shit since.

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>>44588573
they're selling around 5% of their company to the market. But they're also giving old stakeholder the opportunity to sell their stocks. When you round them all, it's going to be 25% of the stocks circulating to the stock market.

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>>44588685
Yeah, i think that's the reason her manager put a stop on that.
>>44588779
Ah zea, that's why i'm kinda confused, i don't remember any Niji named Zeta lol.

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>>44588102
>>44588144
I will just copy paste what I find :
''TL;DR
- Yes, this is an IPO
- Cover is listing at least 25% of their shares on the market
- They have a total of 230 million
- 59 million have been issued so far
- They are issuing 1.5 million more once they are listed.
- some of thier existing investors are cashing out and selling approx 11 million shares combined

——

I’m seeing people say that this isn’t an IPO and that it’s only a Series B funding round.

Series B is a venture capital funding round ie, Private Investors.

The very fact that Cover is listing on the TSE and that it is it’s first time publicly listing means this is a IPO.

An IPO doesn’t necessarily involve all issued shares being up for grabs, all it means is that privately owned shares are converted into publicly owned shares able to be traded.

There’s two of a few pathways for a company to be listed on a stock exchange,

The first one is “Direct Listing”, the function of this is that the company only offers up existing shares on the market.

The second is the more known IPO or “Initial Public Offering”. This method involves both newly issued shares and existing shares. There’s a distinction to be made here, as newly issued shares dilute the overall share pool available.

In this case, Cover is offering 1.5 million newly issued shares in their initial public listing, alongside a further 12 million existing shares.

Cover in total authorises 230 million shares to be issued, and amongst private investors, 59 million have been issued so far.
EDIT:
The 230 million shares “authorised” is defined in the company’s charter/articles of incorporation.
This is their legally defined limit unless the limit is changed during a shareholder meeting.

So far, 59 million shares have been issued.

The Growth Market requires companies to issue at least 25% of their authorised shares to be listed.

EDIT 2:
The offering is split into Public and Secondary Offerings

The public offering is the 1.5 million shares upon listing on TSE.

The secondary offering is further split into two groups.
“Underwritten” & “Over-allotment”

Underwritten Secondary Offerings are the shares held by the private investors becoming open to the market. This means profits from the Underwritten Secondary Offerings go to the investors selling.
There are approximately 11 million shares that will be offered by existing investors.

Over-allotment Secondary is a buffer for the primary offering. This allows the share issuer to issue further shares of demand for the IPO is high.
There are 1.8 million shares authorised for over-allotment.
also reason Cover is doing IPO is to build a largest mocap and 3d studio, 5-6 times bigger than their old one''

it's IPO but Cover isnt retarded like enikara doing IPO for pump and dump for Riku yacht, they have actual goal. We'll see how it will affect their underperforming branch especially holostars.

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>>44588852
Which one is sexually harassing? With Kobo, i'm not really sure ....
Some HoloID girls do feel like they're getting uncomfortable.

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>>44589032
>Cover isnt retarded like enikara doing IPO for pump and dump for Riku yacht
Sometimes, I wish that instead of twittard pajeets selling out to Musk, it's Riku who gonna sell out anyc, he's inexperienced to tackle a corpo nearing the top of chuuba ladder

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Niji exID mass graduation is to be expected. I'm surprised it takes too long for it to happen, the management itself has been indirectly tell them to resign by ignoring them.

Don't be sad Niji ID fans, pretty sure most of them will continue their activity, and I hope they will create an independent agency managed by themselves (Pak Taka or any other). They already have an established fanbase it would be a waste to throw them away by not banding together again after graduation. They don't even need a fully rigged L2D.

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>>44588125
Nope, this is the only Deisex I could find for now.
We need a Koikatsu anon to make our in-house lewd, really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44589348
>Koikatsu
ANAL DEISEX

[Anonymous No.]

>>44589373
How to download Koikatsu for free again? I would like to try my hands on it (hope my device won't explode from this sex sim, kek)

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>>44588852
Winda and Manca are alright me think.
and well-known local male chuuba is pretty harmless and fine.
>>44588977
Definitely i feel her manager told her to lay it low. Both Ollie and Kobo need to learn from Yopi and Risu regarding male collab. they just spam it because of naivety or don't understand their audience. You can do male collab without trying to overdo it. albeit, Ollie seems learn a bit after her e-celeb ''friends'' dump her but she still naive unityfag
At least Kobo isnt went full Ollie chasing e-celeb too much to the point it kill her main audience. she still know how to hold back and can be tard wrangled.
before anyone calls me unicorn, I'm actually enjoy mixed collab as long it's doesnt feels forced, hell i love Yopi and Risu starsJP dynamic because it feels genuine and they dont overdo it too much.
>>44589170
He is, if you read his view regarding how he handle bussines its clear he's the sellout type or just want short-term profit. Riku is reek of rich kid who just do business to see which one is stick and will drop it the moment it flops a bit.

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>>44588685
Kobo's valorant spam is way too overblown, she does 2 or 3 valorant streams at most in a month. Technically speaking, Kobo streamed valorant as much as Ayame this year.

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>>44589464
>I'm actually enjoy mixed collab as long it's doesnt feels forced, hell i love Yopi and Risu starsJP dynamic because it feels genuine and they dont overdo it too much.
me too man. IDxStarsJP is fine because Holo ID and Stars JP are partner on the same level. Back before ID3, ID and StarsJP are the shitters of Hololive and collabing together feels like genuine friends supporting each other.
But I don't see the same way about StarsEN, it feels like the management forced the ID especially ID3 to interact with them, for the sake of making EN males relevant.

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>>44589669
>it feels like the management forced the ID especially ID3
Stop with this cope man. Just accept the fact that Kobo is hungry for dick and will never stop collabing with males.

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>>44589669
Next you're going to say that ID management forced kobo to help blue fag with his birthday schedule and create a song for him for his birthday

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>>44589464
>windah
he knows how to behave
>manca
he loves to bring his rando circle, feels like watching people throwing fruits to monkeys
>well known fleshtuber
only wants her cunny
>well known chuuba
can only think about maha5 guys, she doesn't interact much with niji

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>>44583123
ngl i once thought Corn & Rorang (Rora Meeza, from Alterly) were the same person so she'll just continue as Rorang lmao. Their hobbies & goals are also kinda similar (especially about Voice Acting), but then later my theory crumbled after knowing Rorang is into Kpop initially
Anyway, here's a corn pudding:
https://ghostofapudding.carrd.co/

>>44584047
> joining holoID gen4
I kinda doubt that. They're already tired enough of being under a jp corpo, I'm sure they'll embrace indie life, or even start a circle/smolcorpo from not-exactly-zero.

And one of the question that follows if that's what's gonna happen, is "what are they going to do after mass graduation?", Here are some of my thoughts:
- "indie TRPGtuber with a side of Gaming" is an option for Reza's clique. Besides, EN already has Aia and perhaps Fulgur to carry on the NijiTRPG segments if those 2 want to and their managers greenlight it
- Hanmak returns to Teri-Yaki for good, as Nym. Reuniting with Rachie and many others there, but still retain that indie feel. A bit like scuffgang, maybe
- kanjeng michon can focus on art, like Sana from HoloEN
- Xia can continue fleshtubing & being a bandori-esque idol, or continue like how Suzuhara Lulu went
- SOMEHOW i can see Nagisa (the fruituber) going to holoID4, they are yet to have a Pekora-quality moevoice vtuber AFAIK. the chances are pretty slim, but hey, maybe we can have an ID OmaPol in that sense lmao

For others, i either don't have enough clue to know what path they may take later (like Siska despite the fact that i saw her alt in ical/reza's overwatch stream ), or not likely see graduate

[Anonymous No.]

We now return to the lewd posting as this is nearing buka puasa for some of you.
>CAPTCHA: SXXRD

[Anonymous No.]

>>44588867
Anon it's a +1 spotlight for Kobo since everytime the fans talked about coding and web they almost always have Kobo in their convo. It's a publication nonetheless, and a good one to boot!
>>44589236
I love some of them bro. It's suck when they decided to stop just right before Kobo sudden burst of popularity. Kinda wish the 7th wave could take Kobo path or ride the wave. Maybe this is for the best.
>>44589464
Yea even though ID fans don't have problems with HoloID collabing with males, the fans also want the attention of the talents. That's why Zeta's fans got angry at dingo cause when he was around, Zeta didn't give her fans any attention and only focused on conversing with him. This is why you should have good ratio of giving attention both to your own fans and to vtuber/collab partner, otherwise your fans will leave you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44589758
>>44590046
The way I see it is like this: first they forced the rising ID3 to collab with Stars. Then Kobo and Zeta enjoyed the interactions, it continued.
I've never said that Kobo herself isn't enjoying this you know.
It would explain why there were so many collabs during mid 2022 (can be twice a week!) and why it happens so rarely nowadays. Nowadays it's more "normal" just like Kira-Kira Family.

[Anonymous No.]

Look what I found, a Hibiki Kayomi lewd! I didn't know this existed until I opened Pixiv.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/93712183

[Anonymous No.]

>>44590510
Sure sure anon whatever makes you sleep at night

[Anonymous No.]

>>44590492
I blame Zeta for that, hell even Yopi try to give a lot fanservice to her fans and don't do male collab that much nowadays. what cringe me is Zeta seems leaning to shipping shit while ID girls who collab with male isn't doing that shit and just doing family RP
>>44589464
As ex-zomrade it always painful seeing Ollie fallen that way. it's fucking clear the e-celeb just using her but she's too stupid to realize and ignore her fans. I don't mind if she's pander to EOP but it just she's chasing e'celeb cock too much and too unityfag at the expense of her audience.
I'm glad if she learned but I heard from my friends who still watch her that still collabwhore minded, for example she once concerned with her number and what she think is she's not collabing enough instead focusing on her core audience (especially when her core audience is so small to begin with) though she still good tourist bait. Ollie is prime example why collabing too much can kill your audience, I'm glad Kobo doesn't end up like that.
>>44590510
You just proved that Kobo and Zeta is cock-hungry whore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44590377
Nagisa, is she that good at comedy or something, since you mentioned OmaPol? I've heard her dewasa voice once, and it was good. And she had great convo with her viewer teasing her. I've never really watch her so idk. Maybe if she could join ID4, then I will try to listen to her stream to judge her since I'm not into Nagisa loli voice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44590555
Lewd? Where is it?
All I could see is 2 girls licking an ice cream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44565995
He's in the VPU Facebook group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44590674
>>44590744
You just don't get what I meant. I want to explain but I don't feel like it.
Whatever makes you sleep at night if you want to think that they're sucking white dicks, or you secretly want to suck them too? I'm not even surprised. People with insecure minds like you tends to have fucked up tendency later in your life when you reached midlife crisis stage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44590377
>Sana
>focus on art

Last time I checked, she's fulfilling a weeb dream (joining a Comiket circle) while slaving for a chink corp, and have no time to do passion project at all. Are you sure you want that for Cia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44591056
>working for a chink
truly a fate worse than death

[Anonymous No.]

>>44590748
oh shit, i meant Himemori Luna, the Nanora girl, not Omapol, wrong reincarnation lol. Luna's PL was in Niji JP, Yamiyono Moruru, iirc. so yeah, i was referring to Nagisa being the first to do it in ID if she ends up so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44582493
>Just strike them again when they try to support LGHDTV+ again so they know not to spread disease in Indonesia.
LGBTQ+ exist in Indonesia too anon
And its not new fenomena

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.twitch.tv/xsmilia

oborwajj with "friends"

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>>44591666
How tf you got that far between OmaPol and Luna, anon? Drink first next time lol
But if that the case then I'll have to decline. I don't think ID fans like fake loli voice at all. Give me a chuuba who is good at what they like to do/play, and hopefully not toxic. I kinda want a chuuba that is good at both conversing to chat and game that they played in ID4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44591891
Yes it's not. But the phenomenon of them pushing their agenda and how they push everyone to play their game and try to cancel everyone who doesn't want to and also to convert people to become mentally ill like them, especially children; is a NOW phenomenon. So yeah either they shut the fuck up and try to get some help to cure their mental illness or they can just move to places that accept them. Either way don't do it in Indonesia.

Let's talk about something else anon, I don't want to talk about this anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g98jUxDV8Ys
Tell me anons, are there anyone in Yume before Nana that are this close to Sena? I don't think the Reinkarnatorz are, nor Jolly Jungle, also speaking of Jolly Jungle, would it be a gud idea to have ex-Suika at ID4 if AKA idols didn't take her first?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44590380
>SXXRD
SEXX HARD WITH ABG SMA

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtCT0aRo3aM
Utada Zoey Karaoke tonight 11 PM JST

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>>44578860
Yeah, she make tag for separate family friendly art and yab art.

BY THE WAY GO WATCH THIS PREMIERE, EPEL GOES TO MILITARY BASE PEMPEK RESTAURANT
https://youtu.be/E5C78omwICw

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>>44590380
imagine sucking at those massive tities

[Anonymous No.]

>>44592528
Oh god, not this cursed kigurumi again

[Anonymous No.]

>>44587659
>how's CBN
Not sure but I've heard it's better than my current isp. First media really shits the bed and would have numerous disconnects in a single day, totally not a recommended isp for streaming

[Anonymous No.]

MAHA5fags plis confirm this to me
https://youtu.be/rnc9CNFnXWE
I found that Nia is on her comeback stream just now and it got me thinking, are MAHA5 in recline bcuz too many hiatus and timing inconsistencies in content creating?

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>>44590744
>her core audience is so small to begin with
Actually no, she used to be the biggest before her downfall but she culled her fanbase with the "apex is my personality", male collab spam and e-celeb arc. If she thinks her number is low now because lack of collab then something is wrong with her head.

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>>44593636
Except Zen, all Maha5 reclining anon. They never make a solid fanbase, with only andi and Alia open their membership. They are consistent in making videos/short though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44594097
>Except Zen, all Maha5 reclining anon.
If you told me this last year, I gonna say hell nah, that can't true, it's really insane what has changed since then to make Zen the new spearhead among later gens of MAHA5

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>>44592925
Kek, despite it cursed i love it bcs it keep her as a anime and stays as anime in real world. And i like her creativity to make her misfortune as a lore material, 'got isekai'd because hit by a truck' cliche

[Anonymous No.]

>>44595166
It truly is cringekino.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44595166
I wonder if her mask design is inspired by Nazono Mito, which is just as cursed as Epel's

[Anonymous No.]

>>44595246
'the cringe i like' type>>44595314

[Anonymous No.]

>>44595314
Mito's more cursed bcz it poorly made, epel's is mannequin like

[Anonymous No.]

>>44596186
>more cursed
got a pic?

[Anonymous No.]

doggo doko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44597024
Which doggo are we talking about exactly here!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44597144 (me)
talking about exactly?*

[Anonymous No.]

Sepuh sudden stream! https://www.youtube.com/live/3okMG8ao4gU?feature=share

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeIOer5gBpc

There's a chance that Six is one of the Ministry of Finance bureaucrats involved in that 300 trillion rupiahs shady transaction. Also, there's a chance that another local oil baron who always donates generously to local VTubers is also that MoF bureaucrat. That's just one way for them to launder their shady money. No, I won't take my Abilify.

https://nasional.tempo.co/read/1700087/mahfud-md-ungkap-transaksi-mencurigakan-rp-300-triliun-di-kemenkeu

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>>44592511
LIVE

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>>44597024
Which one? Kanna or Rania?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44597144
>>44598272
kanna

[Anonymous No.]

>NijiID mass graduation
Oh man. Just when I started getting into watching vtubers, too! That sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44598323
ID4 i belieb

[Anonymous No.]

>>44599236
Well I mean she's her family's sole breadwinner, right? Can she really afford that?

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>>44593824
whoops i mean her current core audience, which is culled hard and in small number unlike during her heydays.
> If she thinks her number is low now because lack of collab then something is wrong with her head.
This is Ollie anon. she's extremely clueless and naïve. if u told her the actual reason, she will be in denial. this is the same woman who prefer to traumadumping to her zomily instead seek theraphy and dont trust professional help.
also considering her trait as clingy extrovert type who cant stand being alone, i'm not shocked if she think that way lol.
the problem with her Apex addiction is, it would be FINE if she was actually good at the game like Tower and Selen so people can watch her for the gameplay, but she's FUCKING suck at it. hell, she can't even participate in many prominent APEX event or league like Vsaikyo for example.
Ironic is her e-celeb cocksucking doesnt bear fruition/good networking. while Yopi managed to get collab with prominent JP seiyuu, Kobo get connection with ID most famous fleshtuber, and Axel managed to get invite from Vsaikyo. what Ollie got? get dumped and ignored by her e-celeb ''''friends''''' after they done with her.
and she still doesn't realize it at all because she's too fucking naive making it fucking painful seeing everything unfold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44599236
last year she put xx.xx.22 on her profile but changed to xx around december. so.... perhaps?
>>44599384
i think so, her long hiatus was also due to family financial issue

[Anonymous No.]

>>44578942
Wow even Miti got it
https://youtu.be/LB8M3rqUe-I
This 7-0 thing is something special in IDsphere

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/Epdyb5xhPMk
Kawi and Cae are enjoying this weird ass game rn, hop in!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44589443
https://dl.betterrepack.com/public/

[Anonymous No.]

>>44529449
Who decided to give Suisei noticably big booba on that poster?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44599442
yea i understand, her hugbox was too strong and she relied to them too much.
the trash eceleb hit hards man, they just straight up dumped her. Also gen 3 stepping up the competition and make it harder for her as for rn

[Anonymous No.]

>>44596300

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>>44603608
holy shit, that's cursed!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44601930
who is this eceleb everyone talking about? is it trash taste podcast?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44590555
Wow it's Bikky, I wonder where she is nowadays

[Anonymous No.]

>>44601135
Let Suisei have her boobs big just for this time, unless you're a M who wanna be tortured by Suicopath

[Anonymous No.]

>>44609510
Is Deisex flat like Suisex?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44603818
Exactly

[Anonymous No.]

>>44585413
actually it's 309 rupiah

[Anonymous No.]

>>44558625
>>44562613
I hope he joins starsEN later on

[Anonymous No.]

>>44589464
That's why I thought he'll fucked off when anyc stocks we're on it's peak driven by EN. Now I can't see that happening again since we're entering recline year for EN

[Anonymous No.]

Sundul

[Anonymous No.]

live

[Anonymous No.]

>away for a day
>warkop still active
what did i miss?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44627526
Slow day

[Anonymous No.]

>>44630589
nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>4460951
she's hotter when she's flat

[Anonymous No.]

>>44632925 (me)
Meant to mention >>44609510

[Anonymous No.]

>>44620199
>recline year for EN
The current state of NijiEN make me fucking bitter that they fucking dump KR and ID for that shitshow of branch.
EN recline is nothing but the fault of talent themselves keep yab-ing and drama + with management incompetence.
God I really WANT to see the EN branch truly decline so hard & fall into irrelevancy, and see will enikolot also throw them into garbage just like they did with KR and ID branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44591008
Just look at VSPO. female fps vtuber that collab with males are doing fine and it's not like they don't take foreigners in. Why would you join todays hololive when you intend to collab with males

[Anonymous No.]

>>44590377
Give me a Nintendo or any console fangirl chuuba that streams some obscure or kino retrogame like Korone, or the one that streams Pokemon or Kirby for 12 hours like Sana

[Anonymous No.]

>>44604731
one of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>44639663
Because izuru is her oshi duh. Her stars collab spam was just a stepping stone to interact directly with izuru, and she did get that collab she's been dreaming of. Good for her I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/yaboishiru

>That list of early followers tho

I have 2 guesses as to who this will be, both guesses are corpo

[Anonymous No.]

>>44641748
>izuru
the most anti foreign homo. what did she expect. i only follow that jackass because i follow tkb since back in the days

[Anonymous No.]

Org indo ada gachikoi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44642908
ada, Amanda Zahra

[Anonymous No.]

>>44642542
She still succeeded in the end tho, thanks astel for that since I don't think izuru would join that collab if the seaweed wasn't there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44609671
Don't feel bitter for them, remember that /warkop/ won't be born if it wasn't for /vt/ exposing the shit outta of their whole cosplay circle nepotism thing, the root of "Niji Family" Bullshit (even worse here since I've never seen the case of crab bucket Mentality on NijiEN, where the if you started to get a little bit of succsess, the other one will starts ostracize you from the clique.) not to mention, "Uhh no. i'm already comfortable with my positon rn" mentality that they have, like dude. you are working in a corporation and the point of the corporation is to make money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44645069
I was meant to tag >>44637614
my bad

[Anonymous No.]

I miss straight ship friendly agency like niji id, today there's no agency that both have talented talent and fun to ship just like them. As a ship fag I feel lost, I can't ship any holoid girl becuase all of them have gatchi, I want to make fanart of my ship but I always end up getting death threats by their fans. Even kobo who collab with a lot of males have fans who ready to cut my head if I make a ship fanart. Today every popular vtuber always have gatchi, I miss the early day when I can even ship riksa with moona and nobody getting mad, today every vtuber only can be gay or lost their viewer, maybe it's time to change to another hobby.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>44645984
wdym? i saw kobo+regis yosuga no sora parody fanart and the majority was fine with it

and why would you ship riksa with moona? riksa+siska ftw!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44646482
It was back then, the hype from first holo niji collab back when css2 happen, there's no many to ship to chose since nijiid only have 3 males and the other one is andi (which I haven't watch back then) and we understand that jp is out of reach because they sure have gatchikoi so we can only ship id with id. That also the time when there's a rrat about nijiid member hate holoid because they are more popular that why they didn't follow each other on Twitter. So the ship help to low the tension between 2 fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44646922 (me)
Also just because the majority of kobo fanbase is okay with Regis ship doesn't mean I didn't get death threat from dozen of their fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>44642908
One of Kaela's earliest gachi, Naga Indosiar, is Indo (if you're talking about gachi in its truest sense not as an equivalent og unicorn)

[Anonymous No.]

>>44603818
Yeah it curse but i love it

[Anonymous No.]

>>44645069
>remember that /warkop/ won't be born if it wasn't for /vt/ exposing the shit outta of their whole cosplay circle nepotism thing
/warkop/ exists in part because /nijiid/ died from the merger, not out of any exposer shit.
/nijiid/ knew about the circle but we didnt actually give a shit about it because it wasnt a problem for us since we were well fed because of it.
and while niji id staff may have made errors that ended up biting them later, if it wasnt for them nijiid wouldnt have survived at all past the first 2 waves.
as anons have said before, theyre a super optimistic group of managers, too optimistic in the end.
>where the if you started to get a little bit of succsess, the other one will starts ostracize you from the clique.
people grow apart naturally anon, especially when theyre introverts which most livers across the whole company are.
and not everyone gets along together, the fact that niji id is still pretty tightly knit i feel is proof that crab bucketing isnt a thing theyre doing, at least not intentionally.
theres a higher chance of clique crab bucketing in EN since i feel theres a disconnect between individuals with the newest waves from the older ones after iluna.
>>44645984
thats what happens when everyone, even fans want their oshi just be the most successful, they have to only do content that will make they successful, means pandering to gachis.
the common grind sentiment i see with all vtubers these days where they cant be anything but successful or theyre bad or wasting an opportunity, especially with corpos; is sad.
grinding culture is often toxic for all involved since it forces everyone else to grind harder making a feedback loop until they burn out.
>>44646482
thats a parody though so more people can just assume its for the parody, i think anon means like intimate ship arts that you can often see with gay ships

[Anonymous No.]

>>44648044
>/warkop/ exists in part because /nijiid/ died from the merger, not out of any exposer shit.
You need to take your history reps, your walled garden circlejerk were exposed by your own staff ffs
>>/vt/thread/S22762907#p22800239
^that's where the exposing part starts
>>/vt/thread/S22762907#p22823477
^ that's the post that inspired /warkop/
Both happened under the same catalog bait thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>44648824
anon that never proved that there was a clique bias or whatever, and as i said not everyone gets along regardless of clique stuff, taka and bobon couldve been just not that friendly together or bobon is generally distant since he doesnt stream much and it took so long to actually collab with mika, someone he spends a lot of time with from what theyve both said.
the clique shit is said with the assumption its crab bucket when its more likely normal shit any group of people go through with time.
losing connection with those who go their own path isnt crab bucket.
if it isnt obvious i hate the clique rrats because i find that people treat cliques like theyre wrong for existing when thats just how human relationships work, just like how parasocial relations can be health but people tend to only think theyre bad.
>^ that's the post that inspired /warkop/
ah i did forget that huh, thank you for correcting me on that, still /nijiid/'s death played a role in /warkop/s creation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44609671
she's what treerat would say "medium is premium"

also I wonder who's the best pettan ID chuubas for seggs? I like my sex partner flat

[Anonymous No.]

>>44650069
I didn't say shit about cliques as those aren't my words, it's just what others have said about why people avoided NijiID, also rereading that thread it's weird how on one hand you have
>they're a super optimistic group of managers, too optimistic in the end.
and on the other end you have an event staff called NijiID a DOA especially after mentioning there's incompetence at talent management, does it imply there's overconfident arrogance that brought NijiID down?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44642908
if you think gachikoi is a person who spend alot of money to his/her oshi as a fan than there's alot of them, even far before hololive exist. but if you think gachikoi is the same as unicorn than i think there's a small amount of that community here because our culture doesnt work along with unicorn culture. also, most IDunicorn is just a larper and never actually support their oshi. so if you ever saw them, dont take them seriously.
if you want to see more gachikoi debate and dont mind ledditor opinion, then go here
https://www reddit com/r/indonesia/comments/sqijyy/mengapa_idol_culture_di_indonesia_lebih_toleran/

[Anonymous No.]

>>44651471
>it's just what others have said about why people avoided NijiID
sorry i just needed to rant about it fo once because it annoys me so much.
>and on the other end you have an event staff called NijiID a DOA
ill be honest, i think the event staff guy (if he wasnt a larper) didnt realize how well niji id was doing compared to the other branches at the time, since he wouldnt be privy to that info, with ID lasting longer then IN who were actually DOA.
with time we can see that talent staff werent so much incompetent as much as they tried their best with what they thought would work and that gamble didnt work out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44652026
If they were working as intended then surely Miyu's grad could be prevented, as one of her reasons for grad was that she felt her and other exID projects were cockblocked by staffs

[Anonymous No.]

>>44590934
Holy fuck thats horrible, imagine letting VPUfags overtake a corpo

[Anonymous No.]

>>44652026
Wasn't there was also a post by said staff that the talent managers is incompetent in their job and can't do anything when asked by the talent on how to grow their channel and audience? IIRC something about Reza and just play Apex to increase your viewership

[Anonymous No.]

>>44655144
Yes, there is.
>>/vt/thread/S22762907#p22840440

[Anonymous No.]

>>44642908
Ibay and Alfa have donated probably around IDR 50M+ so far to various ID 2views.

https://twitter.com/I__BAY
https://twitter.com/AzoraAlfa

[Anonymous No.]

>>44655144
>>44655368
>be content creators
>cannot thinking what content is for themself
yea they deserve it

[Anonymous No.]

>>44655767
If you're in corpo but u don't get capable tardwrangler then why go corpo? If both manager and talent can go hand in hand like this example, viewers can get better content from talents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp_tczvLToM

[Anonymous No.]

>>44655046
I would like to see it happen. Go on. They should manage a corpo. I want to see the outcome. Will they succeed? Will they fail? Who knows?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44655925
>If both manager and talent can go hand in hand
but the conversation ended after the manager give him the game. the talent didnt even ask why he should stream that game. both at fault.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44656780
I see your point, I thought you tryna discredit pituber managers out there, since I stand with my point that for some chuubas like Ela above or others like Miti and Rora which we've talked in prev threads, managers matters and they can be the make or break point for some of our chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

We reached bump limit letsgoooo

[Anonymous No.]

>>44645984
Holos entire shtick is for people to see cute girls fooling around. Putting males in the equation especially for shipping ruins that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44529449
Same venue as OP's, but tomorrow, which is a week before OP's
>Adidkh
>Redshift
Usually, seeing these 2, one would expect niji(ex)id covers and at least "Into Reality" being played in a wibu DJ event like this.

if they don't play niji(ex)id songs, then... well, it's officially ded

And here i am can't decide which one to go to; OP's, or this

[Anonymous No.]

>>44650093
You can't "pitsu" with a flat chest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44642908
if we talk about gachikoi as paypig, yes. Especially in JKT48, some of the members are gold diggers, just give the fans japri and hangout once or twice someone can spend more than 100mil on a member, i find vtuber is a bit healthier with their relative anonymity

[Anonymous No.]

>>44658420
>japri and hangout once or twice someone can spend more than 100mil
sex included?

[Anonymous No.]

can you faggots stop replying to bait in numbers? the only reason it popped up is cause it's so easy to get (you)s

[Anonymous No.]

>>44658420
>just give the fans japri and hangout
whos available from the current member