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A thread for 潤羽るしあ, みけねこ and 飴宮なずな

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>> No.44426827
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>Mikeneko
Twitter: https://twitter.com/95rn16
Fanbox: https://mikenekoko.fanbox.cc/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC54JqsuIbMw_d1Ieb4hjKoQ
Twitcasting: https://twitcasting.tv/95rn16
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikeneko.x/
Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@minyan84
Nekoko Store: https://nekoko.shop/
Booth: https://mikenekoko.booth.pm/
【Original Song】drop/みけねこ: https://youtu.be/sHl2-rH6GnU

>Nazuna Amemiya
Profile: https://www.vshojo.com/talent/nazuna
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5gs8EbpwbfQvrhizJx60TA
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/amemiyanazuna
Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmemiyaNazuna
Shop: https://store.vshojo.com/collections/nazuna

>> No.44426968

mikeneko owes me an ear licking ASMR on fc2

>> No.44427966

Who the fuck is 大輔?

>> No.44428524

>>44427966
Do NOT bring that up here
Love wife

>> No.44428720

i need to impregnate this hag

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Come with me. There's something you should see, in front of the dinosaur.

>> No.44429629

I love Wife and I’m a completely sane person
I love Wife and I’m a completely sane person
I love Wife and I’m a completely sane person
I love Wife and I’m a completely sane person
I love Wife and I’m a completely sane person
I love Wife and I’m a completely sane person

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>>44427966

>> No.44430093

>kson spent an entire night consoling her
Menhera status?

>> No.44430192

>>44430093
her or mine

>> No.44430657

has she said anything since the Kson tweet?
I'm really nervous...

>> No.44430761

>>44430657
she literally did a twitcast since that tweet

>> No.44430782
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MIKE WHERE IS SHE?!
WHERE IS THE THE DINOSAUR?!

>> No.44430949

>>44430761
I fucking missed it...

>> No.44431413

>>44430761
How can you get notifications? Browser notifications don't work for me.

>> No.44431764

>>44431413
just turn on notifications on twitter, she usually tweets when she casts

>> No.44431891

>>44431413
1. download the app and turn on notifications, I changed the notification sounds so I know immediately that she's live
2. turn on twitter notifications and check immediately every time to see if it's a cast
3. join a discord and get the ping if you're gay

>> No.44432013

>>44430192
both

>> No.44432198

>>44430657
It's so over.

>> No.44432237

WE'RE BACK BROS

>> No.44433269

It's so addicting that she might start casting at any moment and it might be her greatest stream yet. I spend every minute of the day obsessing over mikeneko.

>> No.44434423

if she doesn't stream tomorrow I will literally start measuring myself for the rope again

>> No.44434663

>>44432013
she was horny last night
she is being a fujo now

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>>44434423

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*blocks your path*

>> No.44439582

I’m not mentally ill, right guys?

>> No.44440233

>>44439582
who are you

>> No.44440383

what does wifes morning breath smell like?

>> No.44440627

>>44440383
my dick

>> No.44440629

>>44440383
cat food

>> No.44443138

>>44440383
Sweet

>> No.44443265

>>44440629
If wife eats cat food then so will I

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>> No.44449400

Who are the people Sakana is drawing that Mike likes?

>> No.44449886

>>44449400
the legend...

>> No.44450170

I LOVE MY WIFE

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We are back.
I love my wife!

>> No.44450614

I love my wife Mikeneko

>> No.44451778

Twitcast

>> No.44451797

Thank god we're back.
I really love my wife and i want to stay with her forever.

>> No.44451960

>>44449886
Fine, i'll give in understanding the context since no one wants to tell me...

>> No.44452393

>>44451960
>Member Twitcast
BL,Nekofami

>> No.44452655

>>44452393
Ahh. Why does she keep trying to make us fuck other men?

>> No.44453309

>>44452655
I'll do anything for mike. I'll go first and you're bottom.

>> No.44453334

it's over...

>> No.44453810

I love my wife's cute laugh.

>> No.44454778

Huh, she and sakana are going full in with the BL shit i still don't fully understand...

>> No.44454824

>>44454778
watch twitcasts

>> No.44454937

>>44454824
I watch them but i don't understand enough japanese

>> No.44455035

I'm the last hetero Nekofami.

>> No.44455210

>>44452655
those are two specifc nekofami, she doesn't want us to be all gay

>> No.44455297

I'll bend all of you over if it makes her happy

>> No.44455329

Motherfucker, would this give the Mouseposter friend from /vsj+/ that's infatuated with us credence to get the fucking he wants, if he becomes one of us?
reality really is weirder than fiction

>> No.44456082

>>44455210
Well, if the two involved in the joke are fine with it, it's fine (i think i got one of them and it feels he got dragged in but accepted it considering he's one of the biggest gachis. The other one i don't know who he is).
I personally would be pretty weirded out if my wife keep trying me to ship me with other dudes.

>> No.44456295

Gayshit is just another means of killing gachikoi

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MISSING
Have You Seen This Angel?

>> No.44458048

That reminds that she fucking completely funded her makeship plushie without even bothering to announce it in her twitter, retweet the announcement or even stream as her in the past 9 days lmao
https://www.makeship.com/products/nazuna-amemiya-plush

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>>44457840

>> No.44459487

>>44458048
>talked about wanting plushies in one of her first streams
>doesn't even mention it at all now, not even token tweet
bros... bracing for graduation announcement.....

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Bro... you're retarded...

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You're laughing.
The legendary Arigathanks was fujo'd into a homosexual relationship with a Japanese nekofami by the woman he loves and is now getting hit on daily and you're laughing.

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I do.
And I'm tired of pretending it's not.

>> No.44463030

>>44456295
You should gachikoi post on Twitter even if you get harassed by a gay predator. I unironically think he has his eyes on more than one person

>> No.44463073

>>44459487
I prefer Nazuna's streams over Mikeneko's, so if she quits, it's gonna be a feelsbad. So pls no joke about graduating even as a joke. She's a genius in Vtuber streaming. Way better in Nazuna's era than Mikeneko's. Her well-being is top priority so no bitching allowed tho

>> No.44463354

>>44463073
She isn't going to graduate. There's just no reason to do so.
But it's not a bad idea for her to rest herself at the moment.

>> No.44464169

>>44463073
>>44463354 (Me)
Also, she's outright confirmed that she owns the rights to Nazuna. So no matter what happens in the future, she can always be Nazuna.

>> No.44464369

>>44464169
Sorry... my head is messed up so I tend to easily suspect her. I don't wanna be like those who hurt her without trusting her. Only this feeling keeps me calm. But it's the first time I put these feelings into words. Shouldn't tell her about it.]

>> No.44464606

>>44463354
There definitely are reasons, but I do agree that right now they don't outweigh the benefits.

>> No.44464763

>>44464169
>she's outright confirmed that she owns the rights to Nazuna
Unless they tricked her on that too

>> No.44465263

>>44464763
>too
?

>> No.44465346

>>44464763
There's never been any reason to assume she didn't, and if she says she does, I have no reason to doubt that.

>> No.44466230

>>44463073
>I prefer Nazuna's streams over Mikeneko's,
Me too. Mikeneko can't be clipped, streams less games, focuses on personal life stuff, uses obscure JP platforms and interacts less with kaigai.

>> No.44467075

>>44466230
Mikeneko's last YouTube stream had a lot of kaigai pandering

>> No.44467169

>>44466230
>interacts less with kaigai.
not really true unless you're an eop

>> No.44467188

She hates us bros...its over

>> No.44467201

>>44467075
And it was a gameplay stream too, the last stream was a weird exception.

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>> No.44467643

i need more of this woman

>> No.44469145

>>44467201
The last stream would become the new normal if you people would stop being cowardly and actually spoke your mind publicly whenever necessary

>> No.44469192

>>44469145
You need to post more english at her.

>> No.44469267

Vshojo is a nightmare and I'd be glad if this nightmare ended and she graduated. I want more Mikeneko streams.

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>> No.44469581

Vshojo is a good company and she did not graduate.

>> No.44469650

She hates us bros

>> No.44469679

Vshojo is a bad company and people claiming otherwise are antis. Unintentional antis but still antis.

>> No.44469692

VShojo is a bad company and I'm neutral on whether she should graduate. I love Nazuna a lot.

>> No.44469720

Vshojo is a possibly questionable company but I will not anti them so long as they don't give me real reasons to and don't fuck up

>> No.44470053

I know the reasons why Vshojo are bad but am doomed to never be able to say them in public. She deserves better

>> No.44470095

VShojoschizos sperging out yet again

>> No.44470174

I know i said i wish for more people to bump this but really you can keep the Vshojo hate raids to your discord.

>>44467169
That's misleading anon. Yes, the kaigais (mostly korean and taiwanese) that are fluent in japanese language and culture get pandered too since she doesn't have to do or say anything different to make herself understood.

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>> No.44470504

>>44470174
Ewww really? You're just gonna let a kimchi and a gook have their way with her and influence her content?

>> No.44470564

maybe she's looking to join another company. Remember her deleted tweet about wanting to join an idol group? She wants to leave the company full of western whores and join another company like Hololive or Nijisanji.

>> No.44470626

>>44470564
Nijisanji didn't even look at her application video lol

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>> No.44470759

>>44470626
did she apply to nijisanji after february? or was that before she joined hololive?

>> No.44470784

>>44470504
I'm not saying that. I'm saying she doesn't have to make any effort to pander to them the very same way an english-speaking viewer is interacted by an english-speaker chuuba just by virtue of being there.

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>> No.44470852

Why the hell would you want her to join Bullysanji, the non-idol company which made male collabs the norm since years back? That's probably even worse than Vshojo

>> No.44470859

>>44470498
>>44470670
My wife got a bit more boing boing. Nice!

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>> No.44470967

>>44470784
Japanglish is cute and she has fun doing it.

>> No.44470986

>>44470852
she applied to nijisanji. I never said I wanted her to join it. Why don't you ask her why she applied? Probably because its the second biggest company.
I still kind of wish they would've accepted her just to see what would happen.

>> No.44470992

>>44470759
Just last year

>> No.44471071

>>44470992
Was it after February of last year? I don't speak japanese man, you gotta throw me a bone or something...

>> No.44471075

>>44470986
I can save her.

>> No.44471160

>>44471071
Obviously it was after February

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>> No.44471258

Korean guys (the country primarily known for SJWs with NTR fetishism) having an influence on her is exceedingly bad news.

>> No.44471344

So what you're saying is that the information is so vague that it could mean anything. There's no point in getting worked up over something that might not even be true, especially when things are changing all the time

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>> No.44471420

>>44471258
since when did she get influenced by koreans? And I didn't know that korea is known for NTR and SJW's. I thought Japan was known for NTR, its the most viewed category on pornhub for japan.

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>> No.44471509

>>44471420
No it's not.

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>> No.44471565

Mike once said she likes to work. Sometimes she calls herself a NEET, but that might be contempt for not working or a superiority because she actually works behind the scenes. And VShojo, who continually gives her work, is a precious existence. It should be for her

>> No.44471569

the Japanese, Koreans and Taiwanese can't be trusted
Just remember that

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>> No.44471656

First time ever i have heard she applied to Nijisanji.
Did she mention it on stream?

>> No.44471682

>>44471565
As all adults are likely to do, being a NEET is only cool in your teens.

>> No.44471690

Mikeneko says she hates freedom. She wants to be bound in her work and given restrictions by her work place. She also wants Japanese friends to speak to her, and to be part of an idol corp.
None of this is vshojo. Vshojo is an existence cheating out of her proper place as a Japanese vtuber. Not to mention it's a black company that hires antis as translators and tells her to collab with males

>> No.44471745

My favorite vtuber model will always be Rushia. I don't care what anyone says, Rushia was the best design.

>> No.44471750

>>44471656
She did on a twitcast like a couple weeks ago

>> No.44471936

Don't spook me too much, Anon. I just want things to keep going like this for as long as possible. That's all I really care about.

>> No.44472197

>>44471565
>And VShojo, who continually gives her work, is a precious existence.
It's a necessary evil that's maintaining her mental health, but literally any other JP vtubing corporation would have been a better fit for her.
She's nearly as isolated as Nazuna as Mikeneko is, and the company holds values that oppose what she wants. Luckily, going off of what she's been saying recently, she doesn't see eye to eye with them.

>> No.44472295

>>44471682
All adults may want to do things with their lives and have some sort of fulfilling purposeful "work" but that's different from the reality over years of real crushing work (often unrelated to their interests too). I bet you an important percentage of adults would be perfectly happy to stop working in their bullshit jobs and be free to do what they want.
That's also why she calls herself NEET. She barely leaves her house and her idea of work if it wasn't for all the lawyer issues is basically streaming which many people would argue isn't real work and doing recording for things she likes as a fun hobby.

>> No.44472573

>>44472295
She's literally me fr fr fr

>> No.44472723

>>44471690
>Not to mention it's a black company that hires antis as translators and tells her to collab with males
sounds like the JP viewers would get along with them

>> No.44472889

>>44472197
I don't plan on continuing the discussion for too long, and I'm not trying to change your mind (so this is just me talking to myself from here on), but I think VShojo was the best choice for Nazuna (Mikeneko). The most important thing for her right now is to maintain her physical and mental health. Allowing her to work at her own pace was crucial. There may have been some misunderstandings between Nazuna and VShojo at one point, but it seems like they both recognize the importance of her well-being now. The direction of her activities can be adjusted as much as needed. Her health is what matters most. During her birthday stream, the president of VShojo expressed gratitude to Nazuna for believing in them. VShojo was the first to pick her up when she was in a bad state, and they were the first to gain her trust. Whether VShojo is ultimately the best fit for her or if we can trust them isn't the issue. I strongly believe they were the best option available.

>> No.44473422

>>44472889
Does she believe in them?
>>44471690
These are direct points she mentioned after her birthday stream on a public Twitcast. She dismissed the idea of "talent freedom" when someone in chat brought it up. She hasn't even tweeted on Nazuna in days, hasn't bothered retweeting multiple items of merchandise, including her own birthday merchandise. She logged into her account at some point to follow a streamer and then logged out without bothering to tweet. It seems pretty clear that she's mentally checked out at this point.
The only reason they "picked her up" was to make money. They're not a charity, they're a business.
>misunderstandings
This part makes no sense at all.

>> No.44473725

If she was in another small corpo she would get even less attention than as Nazuna, which already bothers her.
The actual solution is for VShojoJP to just get more members, which sounds likely to happen soon.

>> No.44473893

Enjoying the discussion, it's good to see the thread become lively.

>> No.44474157

>>44473422
Whether she tweeted or not nanana's merch still selling out well.

>> No.44474195

>>44473725
hopefully pikamee joins

>> No.44474252

>>44474157
That's not my point. It's that she doesn't seem to care either way.
>>44473725
Considering her comments recently, I think she'd genuinely prefer a small corpo that actually gave her a box to play Minecraft with rather than VShojo.
It doesn't even matter really since her Mikeneko account is bigger than Nazuna.

>> No.44474385

>>44473422
Mentally checked out? She was never mentally checked in.
Has she ever actually tried hard as Nazuna for like 3 weeks in a row?
I mean consistent announced streams, at normal hours for her audience, playing popular games for streamers or doing all the other normal content for a vtuber.
The fact too is that she's trying to balance two identities and can barely make 1 work so whenever she wants to do things as Mike she can't do anything as Nazuna.

>> No.44474491

>>44474385
>I mean consistent announced streams, at normal hours for her audience, playing popular games for streamers or doing all the other normal content for a vtuber.
Yes, for the first few weeks. And during that entire time, her numbers were dropping.
When it got to September, her mental and physical health declined to the point that she could only do guerillas. She's said this. She's also said that she doesn't stream much as Nazuna as self defence, and she also EXPECTED US TO ALREADY KNOW THIS, you pillock. You actual prat.
Even as Rushia, she would only schedule streams a day in advance. How do you expect her to stick to a consistent schedule when she's basically a broken girl compared to how she was in 2021?

>> No.44474577

Why can't she just do the same thing she tried as Mike and ask for chuubas to play MC with her as Nazuna

>> No.44474690

>>44474491
Twitch is not youtube. 2k is the norm for vshojo members. As long as she sells merch Nazuna is serving her purpose.

>> No.44474780

>>44474491
I still feel that month break she was forced to take because she was in the hospital did not help at all with her numbers
Also she needs to stop listening to her JP fans for game recommendations because they are all have been dog shit so far
Mega Man
Metal Gear
and that last tweet they were all gacha games or old ass games that will not get people to click on her stream

>> No.44474865

>>44474780
roripo spend all their money on her so they can only play F2P gacha and BR games

>> No.44474922

>>44474780
She really likes gacha THOUGH specially using other people's money.

>> No.44475008

>>44474252
I don't know how you could assume that "based on her recent comments", she's literally said that she wants more JP girls to join VShojo and will heraru over numbers. And I find it really dramatically unlikely she'll leave and join any other group.

>> No.44475077

How do we give her numbers, bros
We should just buy bots already.

>> No.44475131

>>44474491
I didn't say that i expected her to do it. You're putting words in my mouth. I said that it's weird calling her mentally checked out now when she never tried in the first place.
Looking at twitch tracker you seem correct that she tried a bit more right after her debut.
Her numbers weren't dropping for that bit but right around august she dropped more in frequency (and numbers dropped following by) and from my memory maybe it had to do with her choices of endless apex or playing minecraft alone with no commitment that weren't that appealing for any audience.
I know she said in twitter but it's such a weird argument. Dedicated antis wouldn't care on how often she does it if it were the case. Also she has mods in twitch.

>> No.44475167

>>44475077
We simply subjugate a small country and convert them into fans
easy 10k+ viewers

>> No.44475238

>>44475167
Buy bots fuck it.

>> No.44475252

>>44475238
coward

>> No.44475281

>>44475252
FFFFUUAAAAAARK I'M GONNA HERARU
GET HER MORE VIEWERS YOU FUCKING

>> No.44475334

>>44474690
>2k is the norm for vshojo members.
That's an absolute lie. The only members who average that are Kson and Hime, who doesn't stream.
>>44474690
>As long as she sells merch Nazuna is serving her purpose.
This was actually one of the points I used to hold, but considering she hasn't retweeted any of her recent merch announcements, it gets harder to argue for. Compare and contrast how she announces her Mikeneko merch.
>>44475008
Listen to Twitcasts.

>> No.44475349

>>44474491
>Yes, for the first few weeks. And during that entire time, her numbers were dropping.
Why are you making shit up?
There is a natural drop post debut but they were not dropping until the totsu.

>> No.44475570

>>44475349
>There is a natural drop post debut but they were not dropping until the totsu.
Totsu happened a month after her debut, mid August. You can't blame everything on that, even though it was a massive mistake. Some of her pre Totsu streams were 5k averages.
And even then, her September average was 4.6k. It then dropped to 3k from October onwards.

>> No.44475585

jESUS Nazuna is essentially free money. She makes 5k yen sleeping

>> No.44475634

>>44475585
*50k

>> No.44475658

She just doesn't like gaming anymore...

>> No.44475677

>>44475334
>Listen to Twitcasts.
Dude, I know what you're talking about, I just think you're massively misinterpreting it and imagining things that are never going to happen.

>> No.44475821

>>44474780
Her game selection is poor and i feel you can't get away with it as much in twitch compared to being in a jp corpo in youtube to which the audience will watch anything (just look at the holos going for another round of a couple hundred boring-ass Minecraft vanilla streams).
But i'm losing hope the problem is solvable because she has a terminal case of normie-taste in games and is unwilling to open up her range (look at how she ignored replies that weren't the same shit recommendations her jps always do).
Even as a market decision (that is, her decide to play games she doesn't care that much about but still plays them for the fans or the get more viewers) she seems completely clueless and disconnected from anything gaming related.
She even got into the Pokemon or Elden Ring train many months after everyone played it to exhaustion and she has talked before that she has looked at popular games on twitch and somehow got the impression that multiplayer shooters like APEXs are all the most popular ones, which was baffling to me to hear.
A bit of pity, because the freedom of playing games without having to ask for permits is one the few advantages she has now over corpos and that would make her more flexible to get into FOTMs than them because many of them are well awaited AAA games but often there's some new indie unknown game that get by chance into the spotlight.
I think i already accepted she just wants to do zatsudans nowadays to be fair.

>> No.44475928

>>44475658
This.

>> No.44475998

>>44475821
Firstly, she still needs to go along with permissions because Japan doesn't have fair use laws. Being "indie" doesn't magically mean she doesn't need permissions, and it could be argued that she isn't really an indie to begin with.
Secondly, she put off Elden Ring for ages because she knew it was super hard and she couldn't motivate herself to play something challenging when she was struggling to stream already.
Thirdly, the reason she believes FPS is all people play on Twitch is due to the fact that all of the big JP streamers only play FPS on Twitch. She isn't looking at the EN side because that doesn't concern her.
I do agree she should play a greater variety of games, but you should at least try to see things from her side to understand why she says or thinks what she does.

>> No.44476056

>>44475821
>I think i already accepted she just wants to do zatsudans nowadays to be fair.
Get her to play JRPGs where she can mindlessly grind and talk to chat

>> No.44476075

Her taste in games was always pretty normie tier and she used to just play whatever FOTM game was popular at the time with Holos.
It's disappointing but not surprising that things ended up this way

>> No.44476149

>>44475570
>Some of her pre Totsu streams were 5k averages.
2/3 debuff games and the 3rd was her first time playing Valorant. Huge surprise nobody but the most dedicated fans wants to watch that.
>And even then, her September average was 4.6k. It then dropped to 3k from October onwards.
Post totsu and massive decline in activity.
I rest my case.

>> No.44476238

the only way for her to get bigger numbers is to collaborate with a male

>> No.44476263

>>44476238
yeah me

>> No.44476434

She doesn't want to stream for a black company

>> No.44476443

>>44475998
The thing with Twitch is about game metas
currently they are in their Sons of the Forest meta
In the next couple of weeks I can see RE4 remake and The Last of Us Remake being their meta

>> No.44476516

>>44476443
RE4 remake would be a good game to come back with, she already likes Bio AND it'll be FOTM
If that doesn't succeed, nothing will

>> No.44476552

>>44475998
>Firstly, she still needs to go along with permissions because Japan doesn't have fair use laws. Being "indie" doesn't magically mean she doesn't need permissions, and it could be argued that she isn't really an indie to begin with.
Even in the USA where there's fair use laws and some games currently give blanket permits by default there's still plenty of games being streamed that they certainly shouldn't be legally able to play and they don't ask for permits. Not even the biggest streamers, that have 20x more viewers than her ask for permits.
In Japan i assume the same, they're not going to bother chasing after indie streamers for no reason.
Also, i can't recall exactly but i swear i have seen her start playing a new game in the middle of a stream completely umprompted and this leads me to believe that she doesn't ask for game permits now.
>She isn't looking at the EN side because that doesn't concern her.
Well, then she should care about this side a bit more since she has said explicitly about wanting to reach a bigger overseas audience with her twitch streams, don't you think?
I understand her reasons, but when that reasoning doesn't work for her maybe she should change a bit her perspective.

>> No.44476642

>>44476552
>change a bit her perspective
good one

>> No.44476662

>>44476552
>Well, then she should care about this side a bit more since she has said explicitly about wanting to reach a bigger overseas audience with her twitch streams, don't you think?
No, honestly, she shouldn't. And there's two obvious reasons
1: most overseas people aren't going to watch a JP streamer, especially one with her current TL issues
2: most overseas people, especially English speakers on Twitch, are anti gachikoi. Her chat is already colder than Mikeneko's. Why would you want more people like that watching her, pushing for male collabs and getting disgusted by her love?

>> No.44476697

>>44475998
>Thirdly, the reason she believes FPS is all people play on Twitch is due to the fact that all of the big JP streamers only play FPS on Twitch.
Honestly that was such a big miscalculation from her, the same people watching what I assume are top tier comp players aren't gonna watch someone who isn't that good at the game

>> No.44476733

>>44476056
JRPGs are a drain for viewership. I only remember one chuuba getting a buff playing a JRPG (it was Persona 4) but generally speaking even for super popular series (institutions like Dragon Quest or old Final Fantasy games) the jp public doesn't seem that interested.
But maybe it could work for her.

>> No.44476774

>>44476662
You are fundamentally misunderstanding a core aspect of streaming. The streamer dictates the chat, not the other way around.

>> No.44476817

>>44476733
There's too much downtime in long JRPGs and it sucks up all your stream time into one game so after a while, if the game is long enough, people will get tired of seeing it

>> No.44476825

>sleeps for 7 hours on stream
>still gets money

>> No.44476900

>>44476662
>most overseas people aren't going to watch a JP streamer,
Then tell her to scrap the stream translator.
>Why would you want more people like that watching her, pushing for male collabs and getting disgusted by her love?
I said HER, she is the one who wanted to do that.
We're forgetting already the reasons why she wanted to become Nazuna instead of just being Mike and stream in youtube in japanese.

>> No.44477018

>>44476817
There's also the point that they usually follow 10s of hours long stories, so people who has missed 1-2 streams are daunted to watch the VODs and will feel like skipping the next streams since they can't follow anymore.

>> No.44477050

>>44476900
Do you have a mental illness?
Twitch kaigai viewers don't want to watch a Japanese streamer. She doesn't want to follow the twitch meta. Even if she did it wouldn't attract twitch kaigai viewers, because they don't care about Japanese streamers.
Mikeneko was tricked into being Nazuna by thinking there were kaigai on twitch.
The kaigai that love her from being in Hololive and clips are on youtube. She would get more viewers on youtube, by doing the exact same thing she always did.
Stop blaming Mikeneko for Nazuna's low views. Even if she tried to follow the meta she would lose viewers. It's Vshojo's fault for tricking her out of the platform where kaigai love her.

>> No.44477075

>>44476900
I do feel this mentality of the translator is what's stopping her from streaming currently
Yeah she might lose 200-300 viewers but the rest don't care
If she continues to stream more frequently she'll easily get those 200-300 numbers back up
Unironically what's killing her numbers now is the 1 stream every 2 weeks now

>> No.44477159

Nazuna probably has more overseas viewers than most JP streamers. If she hates gaming so much maybe she can reveal country data to stall for time on some stream.

>> No.44477192

>>44476774
>The streamer dictates the chat, not the other way around.
Nazuna acts just as loving as Mike. Nazuna said she's in romantic love with us. Nazuna said she wants to find happiness with us. Nazuna said she won't collab with men (she broke that promise twice, but she still said it)
If her JP fans ignore everything she says, why would you expect EOPs to listen to her? Well, sorry, I'm being rude
Her EOPs /here/ listen to her more than her JP fans do, but they're an exception.

>> No.44477263

>>44477075
Because she cares more about her existing fanbase than about acquiring new ones. And if she ever changed from that mindset, we'd be screwed.

>> No.44477374

Nazuna doesn't stream and Mikeneko has no content for new viewers to see (why on earth is the Genshin stream members only? it was a pretty normal stream)
Her biggest roadblock is herself

>> No.44477385

>>44477050
Her numbers as Nazuna would likely be lower on Youtube because no raids from other VShojo girls, If she had done what she did as Nazuna as Mikeneko on Youtube there would not be a difference that is worth writing home about. Despite huge buffs her Mikeneko streams are not doing well either.

>> No.44477421

did she take her mental health medicine today?

>> No.44477445

>>44476900
>why on earth is the Genshin stream members only? it was a pretty normal stream
Antis. Also prevents clippings

>> No.44477473

>>44477159
What a good idea for content, I’m sure nothing wrong couple possibly arise from doing that.

>> No.44477492

>>44477050
>Do you have a mental illness?
Yes, but that's besides the point.
>She doesn't want to follow the twitch meta.
That's perfectly fair, but then don't complain about viewership.
>Even if she did it wouldn't attract twitch kaigai viewers, because they don't care about Japanese streamers.
That's your impression, you don't actually know if holo jp fans or vshojo wouldn't check her out more often as an alternative. Remember that when holos first got popular with the overseas audience they didn't have any translation and they still kept watching them for months because it was a dream for many weebs.
>Even if she tried to follow the meta she would lose viewers.
{{Citation needed}}

>> No.44477543

>>44477445
Clips are important for growth and if she just keeps worrying about what her antis might say then her channels will keep declining
At this point it feels like she's just crossing her fingers and hoping new viewers will magically drop by

>> No.44477548

>>44477374
She may just be terrified of the Genshin "community" after last time.

>> No.44477651

>>44477192
If they ignore what you say and do you have to put your foot down. She has not done that.
She did, as you have pointed out, the opposite. She went back on her word.
Casuals and JP cucks alike will have their opinion reinforced by that.

>> No.44477659

>>44477492
>Remember that when holos first got popular with the overseas audience they didn't have any translation and they still kept watching them for months because it was a dream for many weebs.
Yes, because there were almost no EN equivalent to JP Holo. Fast forward to today and you have a huge amount of EN vtubers to watch, ranging from Holos to Niji, to indies. You can't compare 2020 to 2023.

>> No.44477721

>>44477651
>She went back on her word.
Her JP fans, including her biggest ones, are still anti-unicorn posting even after she said that she wouldn't collab with men if they made people leave
A decent chunk of her actual core fanbase is rotten to the core.

>> No.44477798

>>44477543
>At this point it feels like she's just crossing her fingers and hoping new viewers will magically drop by
that is her attitude towards everything

>> No.44477813

Nijichads, our time has come.

>> No.44477842

>>44477492
>you don't actually know if holo jp fans or vshojo wouldn't check her out more often as an alternative
Holo JP fans DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE TWITCH META. They watch Youtube.
Vshojo fans do not watch Japanese vtubers. That is why they are watching vshojo.

And we do know, she gets more kaigai interaction on random Mikeneko youtube streams than on Nazuna streams with a translator.
The issue is Vshojo and twitch. Not Mikeneko.

>> No.44477876

>>44477842
Youtube copies the twitch meta, you fucking retard. Holos aren't trend setters,Twitch is.

>> No.44477922

>>44477876
>Youtube copies the twitch meta, you fucking retard. Holos aren't trend setters,Twitch is.
This is all the evidence you need to discard /vsj/ posters opinions permanently

>> No.44477965

who would win in an all out fight : Nazuna or Mikeneko?

>> No.44477966

>>44477876
Not on the JP side.
Stop basing your understanding of streaming on EN. She's a JP streamer, regardless of being in VShojo and having a translator. If Twitch was significant in JP, she wouldn't be a 3k average streamer.

>> No.44478144

Lmao she isn't your wife. Take meds you delusional schizos

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44478168

it's one of those days, huh?

>> No.44478191
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44478191

She is my wife

>> No.44478206

>>44477966
JP streamers copy the EN side of Twitch. Why don't you take a look at the Japanese Twitch content when new trends arise there? They aren't oblivious to it and continue to spam APEX and Valorant. The biggest Japanese streamers are on Twitch and their content gets copied by Holos and all other Vtubers.
She is a 3k streamer because she is inconsistent.

>> No.44478286

>>44477543
Not only clips but also following buff streams with more streams.
She basically does things like the cosplay streams or outfit reveal streams or gets big raids or other buffs then decides (or doesn't feel with the energy to) to not stream for the next week.
Obviously by the point she streams again the hypothetical new audience has forgotten about her already.

>> No.44478350

>>44478206
kek
lmao even
you've never watched a japanese vtuber in your life

>> No.44478360

>>44478168
I just want her to be happy.

>> No.44478394

>>44478350
I only saw heimin he only streams Valorant.

>> No.44478443

>>44478286
She has always been inconsistent as mike on Youtube. Her preferred platform seems to be twitcasting. She hasn't been anything like consistent on anything since last April or so except for last August as Nazuna.

>> No.44478466

I am mentally ill and I’m paranoid about everyone and everything. The walls are closing in around me. Is she really my wife or is just a fantasy? Why do I still feel so alone all the time? How can she be my wife is she’s a wife for thousands of other men? What is real and what is a illusion?

>> No.44478476

>>44478350
>Vampire Survivors
That never happened? Japanese did not copy another EN Twitch trend?

>> No.44478501

>>44477842
Holo JPs (with the rabbit at the forefront) basically copy (in games) what they can from whatever was trendy for overseas streamers a couple months before (and they're probably taking it from other japanese streamers) If i had 10 dollars for everytime i saw the rabbit playing something that made me think: huh, this was the FOTM 2 months ago...
The only time they don't is because whether just in Japan or all over the world some game is popular enough to get their attention on release.
>And we do know, she gets more kaigai interaction on random Mikeneko youtube streams than on Nazuna streams with a translator.
I concede that is surprisingly true. The translator acts too much as a crutch sometimes.

>> No.44478507

>>44478466
This but unironically. Shit's so fucking over.

>> No.44478521

It's a bit funny that the way she's been acting on stream has actually be a lot better in the last two weeks, especially compared to January.
I'd genuinely prefer her to keep doing this for a while if she continues being as loving to us.

>> No.44478539

>>44478507
It'll only be over when she starts shipping you with a random JP nekofami

>> No.44478602

>>44477922
But it is true. I can't think of a single time the HoloJPs actually were the trendsetters to any new popular game and i have been following for close to 3 years. They're always in the bandwagon (and they don't need to innovate anyways)

>> No.44478630

>>44478501
>a couple months before
Which means the current EN trend doesn't matter. Because it trends with Japanese Vtubers when Pekora (or Kuzuha) plays it. Not when EN people play it. The current English meta is not the current Japanese meta.
Also, maybe it's hit selling games proven to work get played by Pekora a few months afterwards.

>> No.44478678

>>44478521
She had fantastic streams since Christmas.

>> No.44478708

>>44478466
>>44478507
Anons, fuck off. We're having a discussion about streaming content and popularity. We're not doomposting about anything.

>> No.44478756

>>44478678
>since Christmas
Sorry, some of her January streams were actually painful, with the peak being the Gartic Phone collab which should have never happened.
She couldn't go a stream without saying at least one offputting thing.

>> No.44478780

>>44478630
>Because it trends with Japanese Vtubers when Pekora (or Kuzuha) plays it.
Why do you think they play it in the first place? Still feels like an advantage to me.

>> No.44478783

>>44478708
I am heraru'ing because .

>> No.44478805
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44478805

it's not over yet nekofami, lollipops or fandeads. stop being retarded schzios, you should know damn well by know she loves us

>> No.44478831

>>44478756
only because you're weak.

>> No.44479004

>>44478780
I mean, I doubt Pekora is scouring English Twitch channels for games, if that's what you're actually implying here.

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44479043

>>44478805
It's just the thread having the usual back-and-forth.
Honestly, it's a little daft, but I much prefer this to anti raiding, retarded dramashitting, and all that we had to put up with for the last year. Anons don't see eye to eye, but you can tell they're at least passionate enough about the topic to discuss it at length (just with the usual 4chan levels of vitriol, so nothing new, really), so it feels kinda cozy.
It'll all get better eventually. Good things will come.
Also, NOT YET, SNAKE! IT'S NOT OVER YET!

>> No.44479120

>>44478539
Not just any random JP nekofami but an anticorn who's cheating on her

>> No.44479160

>>44479120
What do you mean, anon? He'd never cheat on his oshi, Miko
Wait, you mean he's supposed to be a Nekofami? Oh god

>> No.44479232

>>44479160
I mean he's got the marks, so according to him I guess so?

>> No.44479607

I miss Rushia. It still hurts so much that I cannot say goodbye to her one last time, that I she will never be happy again. To watch her go from what she was to what she is now makes me want to vomit. It physically hurts when I think of what could have been...
I don't want Mikeneko, and I certainly don't want Nazuna. She was Rushia. She is Rushia.
I don't know why I continue to stay here with her. I give her money, at least once a cast, and pay for all of her memberships including the 10k fanbox. Is it because of how much time and money I have invested in her?
I'm just so tired. I'm tired of continuing on without her. I'm tired of being alive. I'm tired of having to watch her try and try and try and fail to move past her traumas and become someone she should not be.
Goodbye Rushia.

>> No.44479661

>>44479607
7/10 could be better but not too bad

>> No.44479725

>>44479661
Oh god, do I come across as a tourist or an anti?
Sorry...

>> No.44479810

>>44479725
It's weird to say this now when her recent streams have all been great
Why not try to reach out to one of the schizos in the public Discord rather than here? You'll get someone who can actually talk to you honestly

>> No.44479832

>>44479043
>Honestly, it's a little daft, but I much prefer this to anti raiding, retarded dramashitting, and all that we had to put up with for the last year.
You spoke too soon.

>> No.44479889

>>44479810
>new IP
>obvious false flagger
why the (You)

>> No.44480012

>>44479810
I just wanted to put this somewhere and put my thoughts to words.
I'm gonna be cancelling my memberships, I don't have the mentality to be able to keep up with her anymore and wanted to post my thoughts and feelings.

>> No.44480057

>>44480012
DM one of the gachikoi, they'll listen to you if you're legit

>> No.44480098

The numbers mason, what do they mean

>> No.44480099

This woman is so precious Jesus Christ. What should we do?

>> No.44480200

>>44480012
Good riddance fag, I'm never leaving come hell or high water.

>> No.44480321

>>44480099
Download and beam Eigo.dll into her brain.

>> No.44480371

>>44480057
For what purpose would that do? I'm not satifised with how things have turned out, but I'm not making a fucking Discord account to dm one of them.

>>44480200
Auf wiedersehen Freund.

>> No.44480411

>>44480371
Fuck off nazi.

>> No.44480506

>>44480411
Nun, das ist der Plan.

>> No.44480623

>>44480371
Cause nobody will take you seriously if you don't put a name to your words, plus they're the only people who would be able to give you a satisfactory discussion about it if you are being serious

>> No.44480638

>>44480371
If you're trying to larp as German, you are going to need better punctuation.

>> No.44480643

>>44480371
dm rancor hellgrinder on discord. just trust me bro

>> No.44480789

>>44480371
I can't imagine being willing to spend 11500 Yen on her, and yet simultaneously not be bothered actually talking to someone
At least be useful on the way out and tell her everything she's done that annoyed you. If you're legit, it might make her adjust her behaviour if she sees a core fan leaving

>> No.44480791

>assumes discord DM
Yeah, you're not legit if you don't have a Twitter account.

>> No.44480852

>>44480789 (Me)
11500 Yen a month minimum*

>> No.44480985

>>44480852
Since you're quitting upload all her mengen content wink wink nudge nudge

>> No.44481112

Send me a DM. I promise I'll take you seriously.
https://twitter.com/salubrioustare

>> No.44481133

>>44480985
I said I'm leaving, not that I'm giving out her content you dumb cunt. Go sail the seven seas or become a furry if you're that desperate.

>> No.44481202

>>44481133
You've been given a Twitter.
DM him

>> No.44481297

>>44481112
>>44481202
I am not DMing the guy who has been shipped with another nekofami thank you very much...

>> No.44481368

>>44481112
but why did you have to LARP as me for this

>> No.44481381

>>44481297
You mean the actual provable schizo?
Look, you're clearly not willing to put any work into staying. We're trying to offer actual human beings to talk to and you're stonewalking us

>> No.44481469

>>44480371
>For what purpose would that do? I'm not satifised with how things have turned out, but I'm not making a fucking Discord account to dm one of them.
because you're making this decision at the dumbest time possible.

>> No.44481492

Sup Nekofamily any good news? The last stream I watch was genshi gatcha

>> No.44481530

>>44481297
HE IS A LITERAL UNICORN GACHIKOI

>> No.44481534

>>44481133
Why not be useful and blame your departure on the Gartic Phone collab or on that faggot k*nk?

>> No.44481582

>>44481492
gay
everything is gay

>> No.44481595

>>44481381
>>44481469
I did not at any point say I want help. I just wanted to vent here. Jesus Christ. Why are you trying to keep me here?
>>44481530
Amazing.
>>44481534
Pointless.

>> No.44481750

man, this thread never ceases to bite the most obvious baits
calling dibs now
my turn to fish for (you)s tomorrow

>> No.44481763

>>44480371
>I'm not making a fucking Discord account to dm one of them
Not going to try to influence you to any path but one time someone from here made a Discord account just to call me a faggot. I hope he's doing ok.

>> No.44481768

>>44481595
Because you're acting like a massive retard looking for attention
I'm treating you the same way I'd treat someone who was about to start slitting his wrists, you pathetic crybaby. Grow some fucking balls and deal with this like a man with some actual conviction and actually talk to one of the few people in the entire world who will actually understand where you're coming from

>> No.44481882

>>44481595
Pointless? It might be the only worthwhile thing you'll accomplish with this hissy fit

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44481990

She just had to do and say nothing...

>> No.44482018

>>44481763
Based lmao.
>>44481768
Dude, as I said, just venting here. Nothing more or less.
>>44481882
Give me a line then, I'll dm it to her.

>> No.44482169

>>44481990
They would’ve betrayed her regardless of what she did.

>> No.44482550

In Soviet Rushia, Vtuber ships you!

>> No.44482595

Overbros, it's...

>> No.44482725

I will never fully understand this complete obsession with [specific character] with [specific avatar] in [specific company] over the person when the person (may I remind you, who is a single fragile woman struggling with multiple mental disorders) is trying her hardest to make (you) happy and apart from some unfortunate errors, this thread agrees she acts like Rushia a lot of the time.
When I read this (because there's dudes posting it every single fucking week) I don't understand if it's corpo loyalty or not being able to deal with the fact that she won't be mainstream popular idol anymore.
I feel that even if she gets to the previous level of popularity, gets an avatar really close to Rushia, puts a very similar voice, gets the same backgrounds, does the same type of streams and behaves exactly the same way, there still would be 2-3 dudes lamenting that she's not COVER Uruha Rushia (tm) anymore every fucking week.
For me as far she puts her best effort for me, doesn't change her personality and still loves me I want to be with her fovever even if her avatar is now a mariachi man named Juan Gonzalez living in Tijuana, Mexico.

>> No.44483045

>>44482725
Ultra based. I care for the person, not the fucking corpo. I left Cover's stuff behind for a reason. Losing the character is a shame, I can't deny there's some attachment to it, but the person behind it matters more. Don't be a fucking Reddit tourist faggot that drops the person because "muh not blue dorito no more".
THAT SAID,
> Juan
You're not making this easy on me, homie, how am I meant to agree with you now

>> No.44483066

>>44482018
Literally why leave when she's closer to coming back to being more like Ru now than she has been in a long time
It's just contradictory to what you say is important to you

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44483087

>>44482169
Maybe, maybe not. I lean towards disagreeing especially with how they backed coco over T-gate.
Either way it's not fucking fair bros, total Jap parasocial schizo death no fucking mercy now and forever.

>> No.44483345

>>44483066
yeah, right now I'm the happiest I've been with her since the totsu

>> No.44483360

>>44483066
Because I am too tired.

>> No.44483380

>>44483045
You can change the name if you want but she still will be a Japanese woman struggling to talk a Mexican man in Spanish while doing random segues into classic mariachi hits.

>> No.44483473

>>44483360
Weak.

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>>44483360
You should go to sleep

>> No.44484310

>>44482725
While I mostly agree with you, the biggest part that you missed is that Cover©®™ Rushia existed within a social group of other talent and communities which doesn't exist in her new home.

>> No.44484542

>>44482725
True.
I love the woman behind Uruha Rushia, not the avatar.
She's the most beautiful woman in the world.
I love her so much!

>> No.44484708

Mikeneko in 2021 made me in love with her more than anyone else in the world. Mikeneko in 2022 made me depressed. It's not about the lack of "Rushia" as an avatar, its about the lack of Rushia in her soul anymore. She herself was changed in this trauma. I understand people who are tired and want Rushia again. She does too

>> No.44485987

>>44484708
She was an NND she received a lot of trauma before.

>> No.44487046

>>44484708
I can still the see "Rushia" part of her.
Its just that there's more to her now than just being "Rushia".
Seeing more of her is a plus to me instead of minus.

>> No.44487124

>>44487046
see the*

>> No.44488631

Crazy! I’m not Crazy!! She IS my wife and I’m a perfectly sane person

>> No.44491508

>>44488631
I'm crazy about my wife and her perpetual shirt only outfits

>> No.44492590

>>44487046
That's just incorrect anon. You're literally throwing away parts she herself treasured and never wanted to lose until she did.
Accepting that is hurting her even if she seems fine with it now.

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>> No.44493133

>>44492590
Gay.

>> No.44493655

train wreck of a thread.
in the next one fucking tell her you love her for fucks sake.

>> No.44494050

>>44493655
I love mikeneko more than anything in my life.

>> No.44494432

>>44493655
Love Wife Don’t Bite Bait
I Will Not Take My Medication
Our Love Is Real And Pure
Love Wife Don’t Bite Bait
I Will Not Take My Medication
Our Love Is Real And Pure
Love Wife Don’t Bite Bait
I Will Not Take My Medication
Our Love Is Real And Pure
Love Wife Don’t Bite Bait
I Will Not Take My Medication
Our Love Is Real And Pure
Love Wife Don’t Bite Bait
I Will Not Take My Medication
Our Love Is Real And Pure
Love Wife Don’t Bite Bait
I Will Not Take My Medication
Our Love Is Real And Pure

>> No.44495508

>>44492590
You're right better to be permanently stuck in the past and reject anything different to how you want them to be then get depressed because things aren't how you want, much healthier.

>> No.44495554

I keep telling myself that it's over when in my heart I knew it never began.

>> No.44495779

>>44492590
I didn't say anything about losing anything though...
I want to see more of her.
For me, she's still the same woman I love.
its not my fault if you can't see beyond her "avatar".

>> No.44496370

>>44495779
What do you mean by “avatar”?

>> No.44496808

>>44495779
I didn't mention anything about an avatar? My oshi was Mikeneko in 2021.
>more of her
she's straying away from herself, not towards.

>> No.44496857

Are these people saying they're seeing "more" of her like insane or never watched Mikeneko when Rushia streamed? Mikeneko did twitcasts while Rushia existed. Literally the only way you're seeing "more" of her is her having worse traumatic breakdowns, PTSD, and her life fall apart; and if that's what you want to see more of you're kinda fucked up

>> No.44497120

>>44495508
>healthier
Fuck off LARPer, you will do nothing but continue having lost her instead of trying to unlose her and find only soulshredding oblivion in your future.

>> No.44497358

>>44496857
They think that her traumatic episodes are some part of her personality she kept hidden.
Instead of seeing them for what they really are; wounds that are refusing to even scab over, and by doing that they literally convince her to keep her own fucking wounds open and pretend that that's normal

>> No.44498208

honestly bros i'm thinking its over..Goodbye rushia.

>> No.44499123

>>44498208
Bit late to realize that

>> No.44500254

>>44497358
Are you implying that she’s not my wife?

>> No.44500518

>>44497120
If projection onto Anons here is the coping mechanism that works for you Anon, I'm glad you've found at least one outlet for your grief.
But you have to face reality at some point; Rushia owata. There are higher odds of you actually marrying her irl than Rushia coming back.

If you actually loved your wife then you would support her instead of trying to force her to be what you want her to be and stay permanently locked in 2020. Certified schizo mentality.

>> No.44500649

There will never be a stronger ship than reddit spacing and shit opinions

>> No.44500757

>>44500649
deflection

>> No.44500916

I never gonna understand why Mikeneko have the most insane antis, it's over almost 2 years and still throwing shit about her, at first I thought that's was Nijisanji fans attacking her (only to damage image of Hololive) but she doesn't associated with them anymore so its useless to still do shitposting about her, so I thought maybe its only people who want to do shit posting and bait post about drama but in that case you have pikame or that girl who visited 4chan (the rabbit one) sooo isn't make any sense!

>Also
Sorry for my bad english

>> No.44501088

>>44500916
She responds every time. I wish she would stop trying to sue antis.

>> No.44501145

>>44500518
Do you understand Japanese? Do you watch twitcasts? Do you have fanbox? Can you google translate tweets?
>of trying to force her
She wants to be Rushia. She says this constantly. Why is she not? Because she is having mental trauma and issues. Supporting her is being for her there to be what she wants to be, not yes-manning her manic episodes and think you're owning le incels

>> No.44501580

>>44501088
I talk about EOP antis not jp
> I wish she would stop trying to sue antis.
Me too or at less not make it public

>> No.44502019

>>44501580
Antis on /vt/ are from a discord, they cycle targets and never watched rushia.

>> No.44502125

Don't let this thread distract you from the fact that the Dinasour is still missing

>> No.44502238

>>44496857
>>44497358
No.
Not really.
That's not what I'm talking about, Retards.
People grow from their experience.
She overcome a lot.
I want to see more of her growth as a person.
When you've been in the dark for so long, you can become the light.
Just like the title of this thread "Lumina".

>> No.44502306

>>44501145
And again, that's never going to happen. Sycophants need to stop feeding that idea and mentality.

>> No.44502368

>>44502019
So they are underage?

>> No.44502619

Ah my wife is ever so dreamy~~

>> No.44502676

New thread soon

>> No.44503315

>>44502368
Underaged, sub-60 IQ, SEA, schizos, and autistic. They are also all literally Hitler.

>> No.44504003

All true fans believe Rushia will return to us one day.

>> No.44508714

>>44502306
You do nothing but feed her causes of misery. Fuck off.

>> No.44508822

>>44502238
>growth
she hasn't grown, she's done the opposite.

>> No.44509834

>>44508822
You can't see it? not my problem then.

>> No.44511881

>>44508822
She is a victim

>> No.44513009

>>44509834
>can't see it
none of her changes would be considered growth.
she grew in hololive.
she regressed back to her NND self over the last year.
if you actually wanted growth, you'd try and make her remember who she really is.

>> No.44513669

>>44513009
Retard

>> No.44514231

>>44513669
At least when she was Rushia, she wasn't scared of loving us romantically.
At least when she was Rushia, she was able to believe that she can be with her fans for the rest of her life most of the time, instead of eventually leaving and causing several of the people she promised to love to end their own lives.
At least when she was Rushia, she learned how to not be selfish and how to stay focused on making the people who love her happy.
When she was Rushia she grew. All of those things take maturity. Losing them means that she has lost maturity.

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