Why can't retards like Enna understand what parasocial means?

[Anonymous No.]

Seriously, these whores are ruining even other communities completely unrelated to them with their retardation, I saw a comment in a fucking GFE vtuber chat of all things saying something like "I love you but only platonically not parasocially so don't worry haha"
This shit pisses me off so fucking much, we need more girls like Fallen "Every streamer is parasocial" Shadow

[Anonymous No.]

Someone should explain to her every streamer fan is parasocial

[Anonymous No.]

nijien really is the normie side of vtubing

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328354
I want to piss on Ennas mosquito bite tits.

[Anonymous No.]

Loving your oshi platonically is based, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

To them it's just a buzzword like "incel"

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328354
>not wanting parasocial audience
>become a vtuber
WHAT

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328354
Why do you want parasocials in fucking nijiEN of all places, are you retarded or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328893
Define platonically right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328893
i agree. but it's still parasocial

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328893
Why you whiteknight her you parasocial fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328966
She's too ugly to make it as camwhore and not entertaining or hard working enough to make videos or hide behind png

[Anonymous No.]

>>44329280
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>44329040
He doesn't want that, the fact is all streaming is automatically parasocial 100% of the time already

[Anonymous No.]

It's the new "no homo". If you say it, you're clear, even if your actions are proof of the contrary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44329280
exactly, which is why i dont understand why ppl are so obsessed with her bullshit, shes literally a gutter rat who cares what she does, on top of that shes genuinely just a terrible human being

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>>44328354
Normies are literally incapable of consistent thought. Their brains work only in terms of ingroup/outgroup, and if the ingroup says something blatantly false, they convince themselves of its validity because agreeing with popular people is more important than being rational. They criticise vtuber fans for parasociality, then turn around and tweet about how disappointed they are in JK Rowling, or how much they admire some musician, without ever taking a second to realise the contradiction.

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>>44329770
>>44330555
Correct takes, the rest of the thread is redundant.

[Anonymous No.]

she's correct though. If you're offended then you're exactly the people she wants to filter out

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>>44330874
nah shes just tsundere

[Anonymous No.]

>>44330874
shut up, enna. you're not filtering anyone, these people weren't watching you to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328354
PARASOCIAL FUCKS

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328893
Define platonic.

[Anonymous No.]

You cannot be parasocial if the streamer acknowledges your existence.
The whole point of parasocial is you form a relationship with someone oblivious to your existence.
You can technically be parasocial with a streamer if the streamer doesn't know you exist, but the moment they say your name, that goes out of the window.

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>>44328354
God, NijiEN was a mistake. I wish it didn't have one of two talents I actually want to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44331825
One or two*

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>>44328893
What a cuck

[Anonymous No.]

Public figures being retarded about their fame, wanting the privileges of benefitting from the support of broken people without the responsability of dealing with them, has always been a thing.
The only difference is that now streamers found a shiny new buzzword to describe the underlying phenomena which makes their lack of self-awareness glaringly evident whereas it was easier for (You) to ignore how bird brained they are before it.

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>>44331758
>of or relating to the connection or imagined connection between a regular person and a fictional character, celebrity, or other public figure
You can literally be in love with a celebrity, meet her at a meet and greet, have her sign your merch or whatever, and still be parasocial even though she technically acknowledged you.

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>>44331758
That's not how the word has ever applied and it would make no sense. By that standard, nobody would even be able to know if they are in a parsocial relationship because the other person may have said their name once.

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>>44331758
Even if we pretended that's what parasocial meant, the problem in the case of vtubers is THEY are all parasocial. By default. Their fans definitely have some wiggle room, but they do not. So them calling out others for doing what they do is always going to be hypocritical.

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>>44328354
This board doesn't understand it either so I don't see the problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>44331405
>by the way buy my Valentine's Day ring and watch my girlfriend roleplay streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>44331758
Reading some faggots chat name means nothing, nor will they remember even one out of a thousand they do read. They do not know you exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328354
Being a fan of somebody by default means you are parasocial
Its a normal ass thing but these retards think it means you are a stalker or some shit

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>>44332455
I don't agree with that anon but that's not really true at all. Do you even watch chuubas or only clips?

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>>44332455
My oshi remembers my name

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>>44328354
I genuinely think they don't know the actual word usage for some of their vocabulary. Lets start

>Cuck(old):
>-Normal layman's definition: a partner in a relationship who approves of, and is aroused by, their significant other having (usually) sexual relations with another person
>Enna/Kyo definition: People who are watching enna or kyo collab with the other but having an issue with some of, or the whole setup

>Parasocial
>Normal layman's definition: the act of a "one way" relationship from a more popular person, usually a celebrity, and an obsessive person, usually a fan. This is usually shown via over the top needs to know the more successful person's day-to-day activities or interests outside the parameters (movies, interviews, shows, etc)
Enna/Kyo definition: People who enjoy watching them stream and like chatting, with occasional backseating

>Platonically
>Normal layman's definition: devoid of emotion, arousal, or extended interest. Nearest synonym would be "business interest"
>Enna/Kyo definition: an adjective used at the end of a statement or descriptor ("I want to sniff your ass taint, platonically")

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328354
>I don't want you to be parasocial with me
>repeats in every stream "hey guys, did you know that i'm still virgin"
what the fuck is wrong with her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44332210
>>44332255
>>44332381
>>44332455
Knowing you exist goes against being parasocial, that's a fact.

[Anonymous No.]

You have to understand that V-Tubing by NATURE is a parasocial medium whether you like it or not, Whether the person encourages it or not.

Suisei for example, Won't even wear a swimsuit outfit on stream, Explicitly tells her fans she's not trying to make people fall in love with her, Refuses to do ASMR (apart from the one with Kanata which was just whispering) or Voice packs but what was her response? If you end up falling in love with her then it can't be helped but remember it's not her aim.

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>>44328354
>I saw a comment in a fucking GFE vtuber chat of all things saying something like "I love you but only platonically not parasocially so don't worry haha"
Wait until you see people posting about how they're fine with GFE vtubers collabing with "anyone they want", or pulling the "not wife, friend" bullshit when the vtuber herself is saying
>I am your wife, your only wife
Imagine being "@" and insulted by some Twitch faggot because you have the balls to post about how you don't want her to do male collabs
I hate normalfags with a burning passion you cannot understand

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>>44333486
>Wait until you see people posting about how they're fine with GFE vtubers collabing with "anyone they want"
I’ve seen this happen already as well

[Anonymous No.]

>ugh I hate parasocial creeps
>get the hint you weeb loser fucks
>heyyy :3~ it'-s valentine's, won't you come on a date with me? I released a new member romantic ASMR and a voice scenario of you dating me, make sure to buy it okay thank you I love you *chu*

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>>44328354
Parasocial is the new incel

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>>44328354
it's the new buzzword. it was incel or creep or nice guy, now it's parasocial. The original meaning doesn't matter it's been diluted so much

[Anonymous No.]

Ludwig and his zoomer following warped the meaning of the word parasocial. Now people are afraid to genuinely enjoy streamers and their content and can only pretend to do so ironically

[Anonymous No.]

>>44336681
The funny thing is, Ludwig knows the real definition. He's made that clear a few times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44333309
No it doesn't, knowing you as a person goes against being parasocial. I can't believe you are actually this retarded. In your definition all the most crazy people that are the reason for the stigma of "parasocial" are actually the ones who aren't parasocial at all because the person they harass knows they exist. In your definition stalkers and whales aren't parasocial but greynames who post in a chat of some random streamer are.

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>>44328354
What is the point of these posts? Most people who watch niji dont browse /vt/.
Are you trying to convice people to not stop watching niji? Then you actually need to use empathy and not tell them how stupid they are. You just convice all the niji fans to hate you back.

Have you people never learned basic communication in school/from your parents?

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>>44336681
that's zoomers and younger millennials in general, the term ironic weeb exists for a reason. no surprise it reached streamers as well.
I do think the pendulum on this is already swinging back, to be fair. capeshit is declining, people are making fun of that new square-enix game with marvel writing, nobody can stand that crap anymore. people want to enjoy a world that takes itself seriously, people are tired of the same low effort jokes dismissing every moment because the writers are terminally online and are afraid of being mocked on twitter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328354
She is chinese, please andasdand

[Anonymous No.]

If you care a single bit about a streamer you’re already parasocial. If you see your oshi streaming and you feel happy your already a parasocial creep, you don’t even know them

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>>44328354
I feel your pain, anon, but it's a lost cause. Armchair psychology/sociology have ruined more important concepts than this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328354
Anyone watching a streamer for hours is parasocial. You don't have to be in love.

[Anonymous No.]

>her dad hates her
>her roommate hates her
>her boyfriends hate her
>her viewers hate her
And yes she is retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328354
>Why can't a vtuber act like a person with a bit of intellect
Truly a mystery

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328354
Based shondo

[Anonymous No.]

>>44343097
she just talked about it by the way

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>>44330555
Or y'know, they could just be going along with it for social acceptability. You do realize people only go along with other people's opinions in a social environment, right? You're acting as if the general public can't formulate an independent thought. I mean frankly, it sounds more like you're just mad over people finding someone's obsession over someone behind a screen to be weird (which it is). Don't act as if hurting yourself or others over someone you don't know is completely okay.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder the entire reason Enna started pushing the "platonically" meme is because she wanted to flirt with males on stream without feeling guilty about NTRing her fans. She is literally pushing this meme so she can continue to cuck her fans with male offcollabs and male flirting on stream.

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>>44331758
Bruh, is that how you think relationship is made? You call someone by name and that's it?

You can make friends with real people even without knowing their name, what matter is the bond that was made

[Anonymous No.]

>>44344679
>it's weird to fall in love with someone

[Anonymous No.]

>>44344792
Vtubing is her dating ap of voice.

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>>44344792
She can't be so ugly that she has to flirt with the ugly fucks at NijiEN, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44344792
DID YOU GUYS KNOW I'M A VIRGIN? I'M A VIRGIN BTW!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328354
women should live in fear

[Anonymous No.]

>>44345005
Obsession≠Love
Not to mention vtubers could be ugly as hell behind those avatars, and most of them are larping
You're obsessing over a character, wake up!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44346011
Women cannot have morals.

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>>44328354
You have to have some sick findom/cuckold fetish if you're being parasocial to Enna at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44347438
I mean, sure, but so what. If someone is literally perfect to them in their eyes there's not really anything anyone can do about it. That's just how they see them based on their ideals and preferences. It's more a matter of them not being crazy schizos about it since it's the same as people who become obsessively controlling and refuse to accept rejection or disappointment in real relationships. It's more about those traits than anything else.

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>>44328354
>why can't a retard understand this very simple thing
Gee anon, I dunno. Might have something to do with her being a retard.

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>>44350404
Fair point

[Anonymous No.]

>>44344792
how do you cuck someone when you're not in a relationship with them

why is everyone on this board obsessed with cuckoldry

[Anonymous No.]

>>44329040
https://youtu.be/-8qy-19Z34I?t=156

[Anonymous No.]

>>44341173
And her mom is dying bc she doesn’t want to take care of her kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>44329219
Why you no learn english?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44353249
it's a mental illness

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>>44344792
Makes sense, is what all vtubers do when they are a little afraid of losing some gachi paypigs they turn flirting with other males into a meme, or "if you accept me doing this thing on stream you are a fucking Chad dude j-just trust me"

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>>44344792
I think it's a mix of - she's afraid of creeps that fall in love with her so she has to keep them on a leash and also she's too fucking jaded to receive and reciprocate affection due to past trauma.

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>>44344679
>they could just be going along with it for social acceptability
NPC behavior. Think for yourself, brainlet and others will respect you for it. Fuck the rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328354
Funny, in that screenshot are two of her most parasocial long-tone viewers. That kumasama faggot is a genuine around 40 groomer creep, who talks with himself. Voitan is an obnoxious asshole creep who likes to ironically insult Enna.

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>>44358133
she deserves people like this lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328354
Because she is an npc twittards, duh

[Anonymous No.]

>>44358133
They're called aloucreeps for a reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328354
What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44341173
So the only reason she's tolerated within Niji is because she's a good fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44376475
Yes, I can confirm she’s a beast in bed

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>>44328354
Idiots don't have the brain capacity to understand or even look at the definition of the word, I swear. In their heads parasocial is romantic in connotation apparently and fail to see the irony of it while still shilling these vtubers.

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>>44331758
So it's impossible to Enna to leave the parasocial relationship, since she hates her fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

This lady is the unironically the best vtuber singer I've ever heard and I only found out because of 4chan. She's seriously even better than Marine, Gura, and the vsingers Suisei and Irys. I don't understand why Enna doesn't capitalize on this amazing skill of hers.

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>>44377723
Because she only wants to suck Kyo's small dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>44377761
>His semen is so toxic it melts her vocal cords

[Anonymous No.]

>>44329103
Look up the definition of it

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>>44377723
Because she's a massive cunt.

>>44376906
They don't want to understand the word it's just another "word" for incel/virgin/non-sexhaver that these fags throw around to muck up every conversation.

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>>44377723
speaking 100% honestly I think she's better than IRyS but not better than Suisei, and I think she did apply for the EN vsinger spot, but I'm honestly glad she didn't make it because I find her legitimately insufferable, disagreeable and obnoxious. call me crazy but I bet they settled for IRyS who's not quite as good (but still really good) because she's way more pleasant as an individual.
also the hell does Marine have to do here? she's never been in the conversation for best singer.

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>>44329040
the funny part is that Niji EN is more parasocial than Holo EN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44328354
It's malicious. They say parasocial because they think it sounds scary. What they're actually referring to is "any expectations that inconvenience me." Anything is fine as long as it benefits them, but they will throw a tantrum if it would negatively impact them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44332452
kek

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>>44328354
Nearly all media entertainment is parasocial. Bands, sitcoms, standup, youtubers, podcasts, telenovelas. People naturally like people they interact with, even fictional people. Streamers and YouTubers in particular look straight into the camera, which to our monkey brain feels like looking directly into the eyes of another person.

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>>44328354
True

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone in holoen EVER said the word parasocial on stream? I have a feeling they haven't and definitely not in a tut-tut know your place kind of way that these nijiwhores like to do. It must either be on their NG topics list or their talent is that much less retarded than to lecture people about the very phenomenon that butters their bread on a daily basis.

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>>44328354
>we need more girls like Fallen "Every streamer is parasocial" Shadow

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>>44328354

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>>44385056
I believe everyone in Hololive gets advice on how to interact with fans, including obsessive ones. The simple truth is that telling your fans to just not be parasocial *isn't* the adult thing to do, it's shirking your responsibility. Without the social aspect there is *no* reason to watch any of these streamers in the first place, and you've got to take the good with the bad.

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>>44385056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72TlFjRI5c0

[Anonymous No.]

>>44382841
exactly
if you care about a person you've never met, it's parasocial
if you feel happy your favourite artist/youtuber/musician is doing well, it's parasocial
being a fan of anything and anyone is parasociality

these days it's used as a shitty translation of gachikoi, and retards like Enna keep repeating the word cause they think it makes them sound smart