All is forgiven

[Anonymous No.]

How magnanimous...

[Anonymous No.]

Tell that to the japs. Her numbers will probably be some of the lowest in holoJP again a week from now.

[Anonymous No.]

There's certainly some resentment going by this estimate.

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>>44016061
That extension never really worked properly

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>>44016061
>extension dislikes
I can't believe some retards still use that

[Anonymous No.]

>>44016494
I can't believe someone is not using it. Why?

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>>44015867
>Don't ask forgiveness to the fans you screwed over, instead make it about you and how virtuous you are.
What a cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

That big crowd was mostly there to see if she was graduating honestly. Nips had already forsaken her hard, odds are that just going away is not going to undo any of the shit they dislike about her; she needs to dogeza plain and simple to even have a chance.

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>>44016563
Because even the dev said they're not accurate. Imagine using a dislike extension that's not even accurate.
Like I said, I can't believe some retards still use that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44016991
Dislikes are never inaccurate. They only said that it affects the aglo in a way which was not intended. What ever that means.

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>>44016806
>she needs to dogeza plain and simple to even have a chance.
She won't, she showed that with the bitchy attitude she came back with during the collab and now with this garbage solo stream.
Also shows the break never had to do with mental illness with her, it was all ego on her part.

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>>44015867
I still don't get the hate.

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>>44015867
What? Is this still about the DBD stream? Are people still mad about that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44017970
You don't get it SHE DIDN'T STREAM ON CHRISTMAS!! THAT MEANS SHE HAD SEEEEX WITH A MAN!!!

From what I've seen that's about all that's happened that's not needing doxxnigger shit

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>>44018042
And Valentines. Chicken is cold, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44018042
Oh gotcha, I thought people were still mad about her hitting the survivor after hooking them

[Anonymous No.]

>>44018118
Oh nyooo she's not my virtual girlfriend/slave! How will I cope
Touch some grass

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>>44016991
>even the dev said they're not accurate
That is the dev explaining how the extension works because obviously you can't see the actual dislikes recorded by Youtube.
You should tell anyone jerking off to "hours watched" that they're stupid because they also don't have the actual hours watched statistic.

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>>44017970
It’s because Laplus shows Mori and Sana levels of caring about her roommate more than Hololive. Except for all their faults, Mori actually does stuff for Hololive and Sana’s other job actually requires hard work. Laplus doesn’t even have that, she’s just a zoomer who can’t comprehend that people don’t like you if you’re clearly phoning it in.

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>>44015867
Well done OP! Now you just need your parents forgiveness for being a waste of space and disappointment and you will be able to make something of your life!

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>>44015867
>listen to manichan
>lay low for a while
>don't have menhera episode
>comeback like nothing happened
it really is that simple

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>>44018759
A shame that she'll repeat this routine every few months because she isn't going to change

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>>44015893
who knows, antis might watch her to farm shitpost material

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>>44018316
There were quite a few Japanese Holos that did more streams and events of the rms last year than Laplus though. All she did was a handful of Valo streams; some singing practice streams for songs she'd then use on her Lap utawakus and was involved with her friends in a small time.pop group that barely put out anything.

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>>44018906
>s-she'll do it again!
Is that all you have left?

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>>44018212
she specifically fucking said she'll stream on christmas last year ("warm up your chickens" in reference to pekora dropping the ball the year before). she didn't. then again she didn't stream much at all the past few months so it was just one day out of many.

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>>44019721
Time will tell

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As someone who doesn't know shit, what actually is the problem people have with her? Real life related stuff or just that she never streams? What about the other holos that never stream?

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>>44018212
Sister, go back to Nijisanji! You are not welcome here!

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>>44020973
>Real life related stuff or just that she never streams?
It looks like both. Other holo's that never stream aren't so open about irl stuff on other accounts.

[Anonymous No.]

?
So, is she saying my love to Okayu also sin?
If it's sin, I'm always prepared to stand in the court of love.
Bring it on, you cheeky brat! How dare you say you "forgive" our love? I know we'll win in the end.

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>>44020973
I'd say 80% RM and 20% disrespecting Hololive norms. Before it was taken down, Laplus had one of the most active and frequently updated pages on a 'certain site' because she had no opsec whatsoever.

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>>44019636
and how much did those holos contribute to hololive?
now compare it to la+.
there's your answer.
doing roommate stuff while you barely stream as la+ in the first place, really tickled some people's pickle.

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>>44020973
She set herself out to be someone she wasn't and then shit on those that believed her

[Anonymous No.]

She isn't a virgin so I don't forgive her.

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>>44016061
Just dramaniggers being mad that she isn't quitting

[Anonymous No.]

The superior horned cunny

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>>44018225
>they also don't have the actual hours watched statistic.
Anon, you can calculate hours watched from the CCV across the stream which it's public information. Of course, it's a different story if you're including VOD views, but hours watched usually refers to live viewers.

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>>44027027
>you can calculate hours watched
No you can't. You can only get a rough estimate, much like the dislikes extension.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44016494
>>44016257
The dislikes are just as ambiguous as CCV. All of YT's records are tampered and bullshit.
>inb4 muh cull, muh ccvid

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly I liked it
It felt really in-character

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>>44027200
>You can only get a rough estimate
You can get a very precise estimate. Learn to math. Unless you mean that the numbers displayed as CCV are themselves unreliable, which is true, but they're what count for the "official" hours watched count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44027691
>>44027417
>>44027417
Nigger those aren't youtubes its a fucking browser extension
Dislikes are gone, kaput, you cannot see the real data unless you own the video

[Anonymous No.]

>>44027730
use all the power you can muster from your room temperature IQ and read the first post you quoted before replying on a knee reflex

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>>44027691
>You can get a very precise estimate.
No you can't.
>they're what count for the "official" hours watched count.
No they're not, retard. Youtube knows the exact hours watched and those are the official hours watched for all the actually relevant parties.
What are these "official" hours watched you talk about? The shit charts compiled by some retards who think streaming 10 hours to 1000 people is equal to streaming 1 hour to 10000?

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>>44028037
that's literally what hours watched are

[Anonymous No.]

>>44018225
Kanata has literally talked about trying out the dislike viewers and how wildly inaccurate is, by orders of magnitude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44028121
It's not. Youtube has the actual hours watched based on their own ability to track how long every individual user played a given video.

>>44028132
>Kanata has literally talked about trying out the dislike viewers and how wildly inaccurate is, by orders of magnitude.
Why are you so hyperbolic? Kanata just said it's not the correct number while thinking the extension was supposed to show the exact dislike count until she was corrected. Her example was a very small number that's well within the margin of error. She said she gets 30 dislikes and the extension showed 60~70 while she gets 8k likes on average.
You're orders of magnitude retarded.

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>>44019050
Hope antis understand that she'll have even bigger menhera episodes if her numbers are low

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>>44015867
If chinks can forgive haachama, surely you can find it in your heart to forgive lapuchama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44028822
So the fact that it shows more than 200% the actual amount of dislikes somehow means it's accurate?

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>>44028037
>The shit charts compiled by some retards who think streaming 10 hours to 1000 people is equal to streaming 1 hour to 10000?
While they are not exactly the same thing, it does equate to an equal number of hours watched, and being able to consistently stream AND get people to consistently show up for said streams is an accomplishment in itself. While it might be easy to say "[x vtuber with higher CCV] could easily get 10x those hours viewed if she streamed more", that's not necessarily true, it may be that quality would drop with more frequent streaming, maybe people would just get bored, etc. And finally it's worth noting that ad revenue is going to accrue based on the hours watched metric, not by CCV.
Neither CCV or hours watched is the whole story, nor is one metric perfect and the other worthless, rather they express different types of information that aren't directly comparable.

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>>44015867
I rly wonder how her views will be 1w from now, cuz she sure havent learnt her lesson thats obvious enough

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>>44030078
>While it might be easy to say "[x vtuber with higher CCV] could easily get 10x those hours viewed if she streamed more", that's not necessarily true
What the fuck do you mean? It is absolutely true.
For it to not be true you would have to believe that if someone like Marine streamed as much as Kaela there is a realistic chance she will only have 3k viewers some day if she keeps doing it.
>ad revenue is going to accrue based on the hours watched metric, not by CCV
Yeah, the ACTUAL hours watched from Youtube and not your made up stat. Archive views matter and nobody watches your noview 24 hour streamer's archives.

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>>44022549
Where do you fags get this shit? Even the doxsite doesn't say this at all

[Anonymous No.]

The two schizos have been hard at work for well over a year attacking Laplus but to this day I am still not sure what it is that they are saying she is guilty of. Their replies change with every post.

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>>44030711
most aren't virgin, you don't need a doxsite for that, just by not being schizo.

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>>44030606
>For it to not be true you would have to believe that if someone like Marine streamed as much as Kaela there is a realistic chance she will only have 3k viewers some day if she keeps doing it.
If Marine streamed every day she would not fall that low, but that doesn't mean she would automatically maintain 30k CCV or whatever she's at now. Most likely it would be somewhere in the middle.

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>>44031027
Just because you call every post explaining the whole shit "schizo rrats" doesn't mean it hasn't been explained.

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>>44031141
you're not explaining anything if the story changes with every explanation
it's being a little retard who tangles up his yoyo everytime he throws it

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>>44031117
You said it's Ynot necessarily true" but it seems like it was very true in the end.

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>>44031117
Prob something along how Koyori's numbers are but a bit higher would be my guess

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>>44031141
NTA but I just find it funny that you don't post actual receipts
Are you just afraid of being banned?

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>>44031177
I have never changed any part of the explanation and I've posted it a dozen times in the past but you will insist that I have to score some kind of imaginary win.

>>44031233
What fucking receipts?
>Are you just afraid of being banned?
So you report every post you don't like in hopes of getting them banned. Well I already knew that.

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>>44031297
he's asking for proof besides the gossip of a bunch of retarded NEETs who live in the comments section of Chinese TMZ
your word is as good as mine in that I can also claim lap did nothing wrong, i'd also probably be seen as more clinically sane too

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>>44031297
That was my first post in the thread, though
As long as it doesn't break board rules, you won't get banned even if you get reported a 1000 times
So are the receipts against board rules or not?

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>>44031192
There's no contradiction there, you just don't understand what I'm saying. That is: you cannot take an infrequent streamer's CCV and say it would automatically persist at the same level even if they streamed nonstop. It really depends on the person, what their talents and skillset are, their motivation, their audience profile, etc.

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>>44031117
>>44031224
You’re fucking retarded… Marine will never be a sub15k if streams everyday.

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>>44031348
>he's asking for proof besides the gossip of a bunch of retarded NEETs who live in the comments section of Chinese TMZ
Why post anything when you will call anything gossip? Are you asking for an extensive list of links so that you who cares so much about Laplus but hasn't seen a single stream can finally see what she has said and done on stream?

>>44031371
>That was my first post in the thread, though
Never claimed otherwise.
>As long as it doesn't break board rules, you won't get banned even if you get reported a 1000 times
So you do report every post and hope they get banned.
>So are the receipts against board rules or not?
What are "receipts"?

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>>44031606
Receipts means actual proof or evidence
If you're claiming something, the receipt is the actual piece of evidence that is used to back up the claim

[Anonymous No.]

Kek not even gonna give this fucking LARPing online warrior a (you)
Go back and pretend you fit in with the rest of the retards in the slums of Jap internet, see if they welcome you with open arms. You're wasting your time on 4chan

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>>44031537
>you cannot take an infrequent streamer's CCV and say it would automatically persist at the same level even if they streamed nonstop
When did I say that? I only said that your irrelevant 24/7 hour streamer is not on the same level as someone that simply streams less hours despite her "hours watched".

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>>44031680
What counts as actual proof or evidence to you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44031559
I never said that... you are special in the head anon

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>>44016563
It doesn't work and dislikes don't actually do anything.

[Anonymous No.]

look at this little baby dancing circles because he doesn't wanna serve his little 3 day timeout if he posted the retards doxx shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>44031809
Screenshots or actual audio recordings from the source

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>>44032154
So linking streams doesn't count?

>>44031870
I really like how you've already convinced yourself that the only way to show that laplus is shit is to post "doxxxxxx shit" and how you're just itching to report anyone posting about her.

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>>44032262
because the reason why people are anti-ing is literally doxxshit
thats what this boils down to you petulant little bug, information that does not directly correlate to a single thing that has transpired on her channel

[Anonymous No.]

>>44032333
You really know nothing about Laplus. Why defend her to this extent if you never even watched her?

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>>44032370
This is always your last ditch cope defence whenever you are getting your anus opened in an argument. Makes you very easy to spot.

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>>44032483
Ironic, look yourself in the mirror and ask same question nigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>44032504
What question am I asking, sis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44032504
Oops clicked the wrong post, youre not a faggot, he is >>44032370

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>>44032483
It's a fucking bizarre thing to post too. Why would a dedicated anti have any ground or reason to comment on someone else watching or not watching her.
But yes, it makes him stand out like a sore penis whenever he resorts to it. Just means that you're winning.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this a veiled doxx thread again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44032647
Probably though the only "doxx" it has that is any way contentious is her chatting to another streamer on discord

[Anonymous No.]

>>44032647
Every time I make a thread on laplus it turns out this way, maybe I should stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44032483
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>44032629
Are you actually unironically admitting that you have not watched her? There's nothing bizarre about me saying it because I USED TO watch her and that's why I know what she did that made me and others dislike her. You keep asking for proof of all these things that would you would know if you just watched her.

[Anonymous No.]

>"y-you don't even w-watch her!!"
The final screams of the frustrated nijinig

[Anonymous No.]

>>44032915
Why do you admit to not watching her this easily?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44032812
So you don't even watch her. Cheers for confirming what we've known for over a year, antibro

[Anonymous No.]

>>44032629
It's usual tactic when it's losing is to start posting incredibly retarded shit and hope to suck you into some retarded argument that goes in circles. Most folks are wise to it now

[Anonymous No.]

>>44032969
I watched her but not any longer. Why do I still need to watch her? You don't watch her currently and you did not watch her before so I don't understand why you're this obsessed with defending her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033065
So you don't watch her. Good to know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033113
Why would I watch her? I've seen enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033065
It's okay, sis. She forgives you for being a sperg. Your parents arny as forgiving as her I bet.

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>>44032969
tbf it's not like holding a grudge is uncommon if someone betrays expectations they themselves set
plenty of people hate exes for their entire life and I don't mean long term relationships either, I still despise the girl I went out with in middle school for 3 weeks and shit on her all the time when talking to friends and that's fairly common

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033173
There's no reason to dislike Laplus though because she never did anything wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033173
This guys just an autistic nigger who wants people to believe him dude trust me bro shes literally hitler, you're giving him far too much credit, nothing about him is genuine

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033173
It started it's sperg out around this time last year so I doubt it's the case. This particular fag is on record for wanting to recreate an Aloe situation with every new Hologen so I imagine any deflection to being some kind of "ex-fan" is simply to detract away from his anti-holo intentions.

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>>44033220
she absolutely set expectations that she then broke
that's not even up for debate anon come the fuck on

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033268
What expectations did she break?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033268
Kek no she didnt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033268
Nice cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033262
You really need to return to /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033262
This. Fairly certain last year around this time it was crying about her playing some offline Valo matches with her Holo Valo account.
Dude has just need desperately "yab" hunting for months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033319
>>44033323
...the unicorn and gachikoi pandering near debut...is this a gaslighting attempt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033420
She never pandered to gachikoi

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033369
But when I tell you that you are weird, obsessed faggot on /jp/ you scream that I should go back to /vt/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033420
You never watched Laplus either, you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033420
She is one of the most consistently least gachikoi pandering Holos in the main branch though. Literally the whole of her gen pander way harder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033262
>>44033405
Do you just make this shit up as you go? You didn't give a single fuck about Laplus and probably even hololive this time last year.
Also stop replying to yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033440
>>44033459
Anons please, I just came here but both know that's bs. She literally talked about gachikoi on stream and how she understands them and feels the same way towards those she is gachi for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033440
>>44033459
You gaslighting faggots. I remember watching her during debut week or near enough to it where she literally begged people to leave gachikoi kokuhaku in the comments. Learn Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033544
>>44033557
That was a fucking joke, EOP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033517
Anon please, you cried about her playing a few games with Yue and Tenchang consistently for months

[Anonymous No.]

>>44029268
nigga it’s a difference of like 30, that means laplus got 2470 dislikes instead of 2500

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033544
>>44033557
>ESLs who watch clips dont have a sense of humor to detect a joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033557
>Gaslighting
Kek we've broken it into using twittercope language now

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033557
She was being self depreciating for laughs though, anon. You'd know this if you actually spoke Japanese rather than getting everything from machine translations from iketog

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033582
Show me that happening in February, retard. You just keep exposing yourself as a newfaggot who LARPs as an oldfag. Nobody knew about the Valorant matches until April, and you didn't know about them until June when you saw your first Laplus catalog thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033173
>I still despise the girl I went out with in middle school for 3 weeks and shit on her all the time when talking to friends and that's fairly common
lmao it's literally not. it's fine to have some lingering resentment but if you're rant about her every time you're out with friends, you've got emotional problems

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033682
Ahaha so you DO know all about it, despite trying to appear ignorent earlier! Walked right into that one, you silly little fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033634
>>44033676
Why did you reply to the same post twice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033571
No it isn't. You and I both know that she tried to make her gachikoi fans and the "no male collabs" crowd happy for a while. Maybe she shouldn't have because she ended up loving Towa so much that she just wished she could be Towa. She still kept on hiding it and only playing with them off stream, but at some point it didn't work anymore and everyone knew about it.
If she had been upfront about it from the getgo and immediately played some apex or valo with stars or other guys those kind of people would have never gotten angry to begin with, this is on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033571
>>44033610
>it was a joke
>all of her comments about gachikoi and unicorns were jokes
Ah so this is how you rationalize it
It's funny how nobody was claiming it was a joke when she said it. Even the non-unicorns were meming at her or going "え...w" and shit like that
I watch comments during streams you fucking idiots, again, learn Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033682
>Exposes himself because he can't help but correct the timings of his original spergout
Fucking incredible, autist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033723
>lmao it's literally not. it's fine to have some lingering resentment but if you're rant about her every time you're out with friends, you've got emotional problems
>implying emotional problems aren't common
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033747
>>44033810
Why do you always reply multiple times to the same post? Nobody thinks you're two different people.

[Anonymous No.]

>still feigning outrage over her "pandering" to something in the month after her debut
Wow, guess I should be being a massive anti over Lui not doing her daily shorts anymore too

[Anonymous No.]

>>44021347
>he doesnt know

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033878
>"You don't watch her!!!” cope
>Desperate samefag callouts cope
You are giving us the full tour of your shitposting repertoire it seems

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033901
That would be fine, yes. It is fine to have resentment over someone breaking expectations they themselves set. I personally don't, but I'm not going to pretend as if I don't understand the emotion itself like some sort of autist.

[Anonymous No.]

I'll never understand antis.
Why not devote this schizo energy to making your own oshi happy rather than doing this same song and dance daily on 4chan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033901
>do something in the beginning
>build up a fan base based on that
>change your mind and say fuck it and upset them
>"wow why are people angry?"
If anything she should be glad that so many people among her original fans are willing to welcome her back

Kronii made the same mistake. A full year of zero male collabs and zero signs that she would do those and then bam. Yeah no wonder you'll have some pissed people.
Gotta respect Bae in that regard, everyone knew what they would get with her right away. She never betrayed any expectations and thus there's no drama.

[Anonymous No.]

So, after all of this we've narrowed the schizo down to two things:

1. Some incredibly autistic "ex.fan" who is obsessively hateful over some autistically perceived slight
2. Some incredibly obsessed Hololive anti who has decided that Laplus was the target of his shitposting from when Gen 6 debuted.

He seems really desperate for us to believe it's the former so I am fairly convinced it's the latter. I imagine he'll swap targets to someone in Gen 7 when they debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034017
Something you need to know is that scorned ex fans make the biggest antis, it's always like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>44015867
She isn't as bad as antis claim, but she also isn't as innocent as she want to think, life is rarely so black and white.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034028
>Build a fanbase
She built a fanbase around her singing and chill zatsudans with banter though. You don't "build a fanbase" of something you've literally spoken about once

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034127
I do, and I say this as someone who has actually menhera'd "@" my oshi on Twitter when she pissed me off.
If it's a clear betrayal, you should just fuck off. Only stick around if you genuinely feel like they actually care for their fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034127
They do but in this dude's case it's literally a crusade against Hololive and Laplus shitposting is his chosen weapon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034017
Honestly I don't think most antis even have oshis
Either they're vtuber antis(so their oshi is Jun) or they're hanten and thus probably have a hard time trusting another vtuber enough to make them their oshi
They'd need to find an oshi worth trusting in the first place and that usually requires looking for one, it's probably a self-defeating cycle

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034017
some people are just rotten

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033957
But you are samefagging. It just so happens that this >>44033582 was posted exactly a minute before you decide to pretend to be two different people that suddenly think Laplus never pandered to gachikoi >>44033634 >>44033676
You also replied to yourself here >>44033262 because when I replied to you, it took you exactly one minute after >>44033405 to post >>44033443

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034179
A sizable portion of those fans still went with her because she wasn't going down the Towa/Matsuri route. She was funny, bratty, had witty comebacks. But they didn't want her to go play or hang out with guys and eceleb twitch fuckboys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034233
>Only one (you) amongst this pile of autism
You're losing your touch. Come on schizo, how can I take joy knowing I live in your head all day if you can't even pick me out of a thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034179
>You don't "build a fanbase" of something you've literally spoken about once
What are you even referring to with this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034274
It's a good thing that she didn't do those things then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034330
Those are all your posts and you pretending otherwise doesn't change that fact. You probably should reuse your avatars from /jp/ if you want to pretend to be someone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034348
Well obviously it's the "gachikoi pandering" comment that you spammed earlier

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034407
>Avatars
I am now absolutely sure that you are losing your sanity. Again though, it would have pleased me greatly had you actually managed to pick me out. I'm just as disappointed as you are here, nutter.

[Anonymous No.]

Mind you with her multiple things just came together. It's not just that she's clearly fine with men and even plays with them. It's also how little she did for her fans in Hololive and how quickly she tried to be active in other places.
When you combine these it just becomes a shitty cocktail. Barely appears for her own fans, puts effort into other places, hangs out on eceleb discords, hides playing with guys all day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034457
She talked about gachikoi several times and had gachikoi oriented ASMR streams. How is that something she only spoke about once?

[Anonymous No.]

Damn, some people are getting really defensive regarding the selfish bitch.

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>>44034233
I have a 4chan pass though, sis. About half of those are (me)

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>>44034517
Yes, avatars.
>>/jp/?task=search2&search_filename=1630055652292.jpg

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>>44034568
You can't just claim you have it and not show it.

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>>44034402
??????????
Why are you gaslighting this hard, the shit she did is well fucking known anon.
And don't go with the retarded >muh iketog shit either, my Japanese is probably better than yours

[Anonymous No.]

>>44015867
I love Lacunny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034529
>Laplus
>ASMR
So, three streams from over a year ago? Absolute kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034581
>>44034635
>>44034647
>Screams about samefagging
>Samefags
And so the cycle continues. At least the JP thread has been nice with you trapped here

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034802
What happened to the gachikoi thing being something that only happened once? Seems like you once again got outed as a newfag who never watched or followed Laplus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034647
If your Japanese was any better than mine you'd be aware that Lap larping as a dirty otaku for laughs was probably something done in jest than it was some super serious comment

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034851
Where did I samefag? You keep using that word but you don't seem to understand what it means. I have not replied to myself several times nor have I replied to a single post multiple times to look like multiple people like you have.

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>>44034861
Not sure who you are replying to here since I specifically mentioned 3 ASMR streams?

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>>44034893
You're a fucking idiot for pretending to be more socially aware of her intentions than her actual JP comments. Unless you also claim to be more socially aware than most nips.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034893
If Lap didn't care at all about the gachi audience, why did she try so hard to hide playing with stars off stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034924
Samefagged in those three posts I linked. That's why they were linked. Come on, Simple-Dan, keep up

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034984
Where did she "hide it" other than any other Holo keeping what they do on their room mates or in real life as hidden as they possibly can?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034851
I know Lapschizo is an autist, but not every single post is your boogeyman

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>>44035099
I'm talking about her playing with them as Laplus together with Kobo

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034964
>You don't "build a fanbase" of something you've literally spoken about once

>>44035029
Where's the samefag, retard? Oh my god you really don't know what that word means. Why do you keep trying to fit in this desperately?
You're even claiming that a post made less than a minute after mine is also mine.
I sure mindbroke you with that dead accurate samefag callout post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035132
Hidden? It was freely talked about by Kobo and Lap?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035183
Laplus said she played with Kobo and "person from holo EN".

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035178
Why are you trying to link 3 ASMR streams to one comment made in jest about "understanding gachikoi"?

And surely if she was pandering to anything then she'd continue to do said "pandering " activities?

[Anonymous No.]

Laplus schizo is the biggest sperg on this board and wait until you find out it's the same autist still ragging on Rushia a year later.

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>>44035099
>every Holo hides their activities offline
Absolute garbage since this is known to backfire every time. See: za hando, mi-chan, pekora hiding her moving out a year ago, etc
You can pretend that people don't care all you want but that doesn't make you correct, it makes you a flat earther

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>>44034196
The thing is, at least with me, that I believe she loves her fans, I cannot even fathom her being willingly malicious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44025764
licky licky yummy tummy

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035222
Which is true

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035183
No it wasn't. Kobo said it because she's a kid who doesn't think.
Lap hid the fact that it was a man and we both know why.
You're done here.

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>>44035258
>one comment
She made several comments though you fucking retard. She spoke about unicorns and gachikoi several times, in a positive light.
>in jest
Learn Japanese. Japanese commenters at the time disagree with you. They get the benefit of the doubt more than (You).

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>>44034526
>Barely appears for her own fans
This is the only part I don't get
If she's streaming on her RM, then she literally is streaming for her fans. Her actual core fanbase will watch both Holo and RM streams
Now, you can make the argument that the casual, Holo only fans are getting screwed over, which I think is fine to say, but to say that she's screwing over all of her fans is just wrong.
The biggest fans will watch the RM too

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>>44035363
It was literally freely spoken about by both of them though you hilarious autists. You can't pretend that it's something supposedly secret when was common knowledge from the minute it occured.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035394
>Only ever spergs out about a single comment
>Now she is suddenly supposed to have made "several"
Damn, you sure are flexible in changing your narative

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035394
The Japanese comments at the time we're "stop being a dirty otaku wwww" though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035258
>Why are you trying to link 3 ASMR streams to one comment made in jest about "understanding gachikoi"?
I merely brought them up because you said it was someone she just talked about once and did nothing else gachikoi related since.
>And surely if she was pandering to anything then she'd continue to do said "pandering " activities?
You mean ASMR? Because her mic broke. This is another one of those things that you would have known if you really did follow her, but you don't watch her, so you didn't know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035504
This is the first time I've talked about Laplus in months. I watched her around debut and have a good enough memory to know gaslighting when I see it. If you wanna defend your oshi at least don't lie about it. She pandered to gachikoi and unicorns hard early on. So did Koyo. Koyo kept doing it, Laplus did an about face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035314
It's a deliberate attempt to obscure the identity of the holostar being a holostar. If she had played with a girl she would just name them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035394
>Japanese commenters at the time disagree with you.
They were dunking on obsessed otaku as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035410
The schizos blow the amount of time she streamed on her RM last year completely out of proportion to be fair. Pretty much a handful of Valo streams with her old friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035546
Yes you fucking mongoloid, if they actually thought she was meming about unicorns they'd be posting the fucking emoji like they do whenever a vtuber memes about unicorns

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035609
Anon, I'm not sure who this "I've only just commented today!" post is for since the only people invested in this shitposting know that this isn't the case

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035609
>This is the first time I've talked about Laplus in months
kek nice try

>She pandered to gachikoi and unicorns hard early on
Outright lie, she explicitly said she does not want gachikoi. The fact you retards still keep trying to extrapolate out because she said she's a gachi for Towa she wants gachis herself is baffling

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>>44035450
>It was literally freely spoken about by both
No, it was not. At no point did Laplus acknowledge that she played that with men. She hid the fact that men were there.
Prove me wrong and I'll send you a hundred bucks right now, but we have both seen the moment so we both know you cannot do so.

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Aside from the herpes thing this drama is so fucking boring kek. There is some valid complaints about her but it's not worth making it the topic of your day.

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>>44035619
>If she did [Insert hypothetical]
What an empty shitpost this is. Kobo explained the situation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44033771
>>44033775
Do you smart individuals not understand sarcasm?

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>>44035410
So you're saying she was indeed trying to grift early on and funnel her fan base over to other places almost immediately after becoming Laplus?
What a way to appreciate the golden ticket. Wait a few weeks, say fuck you Yagoo and try to ship your fans to another shore.

[Anonymous No.]

キモオタク Is a comedy routine. Very basic Tsukkomi/boke comedy with chat. She did it in her pl too.

Though she is close to one for her idolmaster wife.

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>>44035761
Kobo didn't explain shit. Laplus knew who she was playing with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035668
No they were bantering with her as well. Lap's chat has always been one that has a back and forth with her. You'd know this if you ever actually watched her rather than just sniff the nyfco farts

[Anonymous No.]

shes simply unfunny and cringy. her cheeky jokes still fucking suck especially in group collabs. the rest doesnt even matter. her comeback wont change anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035643
The problem is the valo offstream. She asked for people to watch only her, and there she heavily pandered to gachikoi (and for real), yet she ended up hiding her interactions with men form them.

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>>44035706
>Outright lie, she explicitly said she does not want gachikoi
You lying absolute fucking faggot she said she wanted gachikoi early on. The only time she actively joked about it was when she did that poll thing.
Link it here if you're so confident
You're 100% full of shit because I saw those RM tweets on my feed a few months back and she was back at it with the gachikoi pandering then too, and nobody left actually seperates Lap and her roommate anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035797
Kobo explained the situation that led to it. Everything beyond that is your schizo headcanon

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035750
I anti all non-unicorn friendly vtubers because I'm trying to save the world and that's how it's done

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>>44035931
Kobo accidentally exposed her would be the correct interpretation. Not maliciously, she's just a kid. They talk without thinking.
Laplus didn't want anyone to know that she played with a man even months after becoming Laplus. Because she still didn't want to lose the fans who would mind such a thing.

But continue to cope all you want.

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>>44035931
Laplus not saying which other person she played with is "schizo headcanon"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035845
Literally nobody gives the slightest fuck with people playing online games with friends. She's played it with men and women

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034348
I think Kiara did the same thing too with all the short mentions about wearing every holomem's hat's

[Anonymous No.]

These complaints are insane and reeks of doxsisters personality because you are not supposed to follow her roommate and stalk her offline activities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035706
>she said she's a gachi for Towa
You're going to have to source this one, master streamwatcher.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035706
Bros did you not follow her twitter, she ran deep with the parasocial shit, she was constantly replying to fans and spamming twit casts

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036024
>Not maliciously, she's just a kid
She is barely younger than la+, that same sort of defense would apply to both for their stupid actions.

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>>44035845
She has never serious pandered to gachikoi though. If she was then she'd be pandering like all the other pandering Holos do. And even then, plenty of them like Mel, Choco and Korori have multiple documented appearances with males off stream IRL and nobody gives the slightest fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035861
>I haven't talked about Laplus for months bro
>Also I stalk her roommate and get unreasonably angry if my rrats get disproven
lmao fucking spic retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036040
>Literally nobody gives the slightest fuck with people playing online games with friends
Excrpt almost nobody cared about what Rushia did regarding Hololive and the shit people actually cared about was exactly that

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036028
She said she played with an EN. You needing more than that is a you problem. Literally everyone was aware of the situation as kobo talked about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035706
>she explicitly said she does not want gachikoi
When? Stream and timestamp?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036128
You're extremely stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036040
And that is true to an extent, at least, the problematic part is actively hiding these interactions while asking to be loved and acting all clingy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036119
I'm not defending anyone by saying that, I'm just saying Kobo didn't mean to make anyone hate Laplus.
Laplus very consciously hid the fact that it was males she played with too, she put thought into it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44015867
https://youtu.be/HzKmtm2MI64

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036089
>You're not supposed to be actually gachikoi when you're a gachikoi
kys, you know nothing of idol culture, and vtubing culture is idol culture

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036200
>Literally everyone was aware of the situation as kobo talked about it
Yeah, literally every Japanese person watches holo ID speaking indonesian.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm surprised that some anons seem actually angry at this. Comes off as manufactured drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036157
Ah so it all comes back to Rushia. It all makes sense. You only started going after Lap after Rushia's yab afterall. You being a Holo hating fandead makes a whole bunch of sense.

And comparing Lap to Rushia in content, personality or the situation is laughable. Rushia was literally selling wedding rings and telling her gachis that she loved them on a daily basis. And even that would have been forgiven had she not shat the bed and ran to korekore

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036089
>Doxsisters are behind the Laplus and Rushia anti threads
Yeah sounds about right

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>>44035410
>The biggest fans will watch the RM too
Ummmmm bro only doxsisters care about RMs. Those are not fans they are antis. Laplus basically gives content to her antis but not her true holo fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036285
Not all of us have such low expectations for women that we just assume that none of them are chaste

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036217
She doesn't act lovey dovey or clingy though. She's mostly calling her chat gross or her chat calls her gross

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036350
I have no idea what connection your reply could have with my post.

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>>44036217
>problematic part is actively hiding these interactions while asking to be loved and acting all clingy.
No that's not really problematic at all. Seperation between private and personal life is expected, it's your fault for doxing. Stop being an obsessed creepy retard and you'll be fine buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036230
>Put effort into hiding something that was literally out in the open from the second it occured
You will never convince anyone of this absolute insanity, m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036316
So where are the posts talking about Laplus playing Valorant with guys in February of last year, bro? You said they exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035845
This reads like a sister trying to pretend to be a unicorn and failing badly.

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>>44036316
>Fandead
I anti that whore every day in her cuck thread retard, you can go check for yourself. And nobody cared about the korekore shit, she's hated because she was a lying whore just like lappy

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036266
Kobo has a fairly big Japanese following and Holos turning up and interacting with other Holos is always something very visible. Lap had even chatted to her fans about wanting to play with Kobo ahead of yime

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036472
>Rushia schizo is Laplus schizo
how can one brown man be so unhinged

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>>44036394
>Seperation between private and personal life is expected
If said separation is expected why did she so adamantly deny having a bf multiple times? She shouldn't have cared about stuff like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036426
Yeah, to bait you out so you would abandon your feigned ignorence of them and autistic need to correct the date. Something that you did with extreme predictability.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036541
Probably because it wasn't true?

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>>44019721
I'm not him but I'm not willing to invest the time in seeing if a chick is insane and will repeatedly tank her career, a career which could have made her a millionaire in a country where making 25k USD is normal in tokyo for people 18-35. It's just not worth it for me, personally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036361
Follow the reply chain, please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036394
>Seperation between private and personal life is expected
no it isn't

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036541
Probably annoying having people spread false information about you I suppose

[Anonymous No.]

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>>44036472
Rushia ACTUALLY didn't do anything wrong. She occasionally played apex with him off stream, that's it. I hope for your sake that you're not clueless enough to still think they were together.
She was very active as Rushia and gave her fans everything they wanted, something you cannot say about Laplus.
She even ruined her own career over a stupid decision by trying to prove antis wrong so much that she contacted korefag

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036598
But schizoposting for thousands of hours on a gossip board about her is worth your time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036548
>hurr durr I was pretending to be retarded!!
When did I feign ignorance? Link the post.
You also just exposed yourself again as not having been around in February because nobody was anti for Laplus in February like you're claiming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036589
>>44036630
But it's her personal life, it's separate, why should it matter?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44035789
Why would anyone care about hurting Yagoo's poor feelings? I don't work for the company. I don't give a shit about the company, I care more about the talent (although I don't watch La+). I hate you corpofags so much.
My view of Hololive/RM is that
>anyone putting all of their eggs in one basket sets themselves up badly for their future
You should at least be somewhat active on your RM
>Cover holds a disporportionate amount of power in the relationship
Cover owns her IP. All of the Holos should have some sort of RM activity in case they want to leave. It also lets them work around Cover's retarded collab bans
Someone like Choco-sensei does it well. She's even used her RM to collab with Kson, and we know that Cover would never let her do that on her Holo account.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036615
Sorry sister but we just don't really care about the talents playing videogames with men in their spare time.

t. Unicorn

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036285
I think people acting like she did nothing wrong at all riles people that think she did do some bad things, resulting in both sides going further in the defense of their sides.
I’ve seen this before and even been on both sides of it with other things I suppose. Personally, I do think la+ made some mistakes and did some things she should not have done but I don’t think she is the devil. Her reaction to backlash by taking her ball and going home for so long, leaving her genmates out to dry, probably annoys me more than her actual laziness, selfishness and lies that got things started.
To me it seems like a good thing overall that she is back, but I suppose only time will tell.

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>>44036472
What type of posts do you make in their thread?

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>>44036652
She went to eat out with him, anon. She was asking about his past relationships. She said she wanted a loving relationship.
>She even ruined her own career over a stupid decision by trying to prove antis wrong so much that she contacted korefag
She contacted him months before any of that though. Why did she do that? For fun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036667
You're a massive faggot but I doubt you'd appreciate having it blasted all over facebook where your spic friends can see it, right anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036523
You've only just realised this?
It's been like this for months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036672
There's no need for them to already divert their attention while being a holo, especially not as a holo that barely does anything to begin with like Laplus. If she was someone who streamed a ton like Miko, Watame, Koyori etc. then you wouldn't really notice but it's really bad when someone who already does next to nothing goes down that route.

Even if they have no second leg to stand on, they can always just make a new identity the moment they graduate or get fired and all the fans who like them will follow anyway. It doesn't need to be set up beforehand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036740
I don't think she's the devil either, but then you have posts of retards like this >>44036703 pretending to be her fan that really make my blood boil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036844
>they can always just make a new identity the moment they graduate or get fired and all the fans who like them will follow anyway.
This doesn't happen. The casual fans disappear once they realise there's no box and only the core remains.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036217
>the problematic part is actively hiding these interactions
Can't really call the hiding a problem when they're not Laplus interactions. She's required to hide them. The problem is she's doing them at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036794
But Facebook would still be related to my personal life anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036790
Why does all of your information about Rushia sound like you've read it secondhand from translations?
She was pretty obviously not looking to date him. As someone pointed out in a previous bait thread, her choice of wording did not indicate a desire to pursue a relationship with him.

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>>44035410
Sounds like Mori when you put it like that.
>True deadbeats
Not a good look or comparison to open yourself up to there.

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>>44036904
The casual fans would disappear anyway, you only bring your actual core fans with you when you stop being a holo.
No longer being a holo means you lose access to the environment, which is more important than people think. The idol concerts, the collabs, the merch, the events and all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036652
both are man-tainted whores and I will anti them both until they rope, which will be easy because all whores are made of glass

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036924
Not true, look at Mel for example, she interacts with men just fine. Or look at Koyori she doesn't hide stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037021
I don't believe you. If you were that serious you'd feel the same way towards a lot of other holos and vtubers.

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>>44036963
I read it all directly from korekore's stream. If these "secondhand translations" are wrong then why don't you give the real translation?
>She was pretty obviously not looking to date him.
>her choice of wording did not indicate a desire to pursue a relationship with him.
She was lamenting not being able to find 恋愛 to korekore and blamed her menhera for it, which is what made her relationship with mafumafu more difficult as he would not go to eat with her anymore.

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>>44037007
Yes, I agree
I'm not advocating for them to quit. I'm simply saying that they should still prepare a RM account with some amount of activity regardless.
Putting all of your eggs in one basket is the perfect way to end up making a mess of things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036652
Rushia did several things wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037079
Oh so you mean she should do it openly on her RM while not mentioning it on holo? That makes more sense. She did style her RM as only playing with girls...

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037088
>implying I didn't anti Shion until it was disproven
>implying I didn't write the ayame is a whore pasts
>implying I didn't antipost festival until she was squashed underfoot
>implying I didn't spam cold chicken
you know nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037105
Only in the sense that she fucked her own career up while trying to prove that she really isn't his gf. If anything that shows just how important her fans were to her. Leading her to such a stupid decision.

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>>44037089
恋愛 is the phrase you use when talking about romance in general. It doesn't refer to an attempt to get into a "specific" relationship.
If you don't even understand that, you clearly don't understand the Japanese language. This is a sentiment she's talked about before.
And we know she's menhera. She's talked constantly about how her menhera is awful. But you've driven yourself into believing that the cuckold interpretation is the only one that is valid, presumably because you're a drama addicted whore.
There's a reason her actual fans laugh when you try to timeloop this shit in their generals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037174
Exactly, she simply hides any sort of male interaction, which is just worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037204 (Me)
It's also especially glaring that Kore2 refused to show their entire conversation history. The moment he started picking and choosing what was shown, you should have realised that he was playing you for a fool. But a fool you be.

[Anonymous No.]

Worth noting while I'm defending Rushia I don't actually watch her anymore. when she joined vshojo I just couldn't deal with that and I will forever hate kson for tricking her into doing that. Absolute hellhole and the worst place she could be. Fuck Twitch, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44036472
Are you the faggot who goes into their thread daily, sometimes multiple times a day, just to post
>LMAO, she's not your wife. She only wants your money. Take meds
You're a really sad anti

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037089
>not go to eat with her anymore
read the actual text. She said he wouldn't meet with her anymore, as in IRL meeting period.
And it was not said in the kind of tone you'd talk about an active love interest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034028
Laplus really is the JP Kronii and its hilarious about how both kinda came out around the same time too

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037328
How is Unou these days?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037347
Yes and I will keep mindbreaking you cucks just like I mindbreak lapcucks in the catalog

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037079
Koyori has social life?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037204
She was using it in regards to mafumafu though.

>>44037270
>It's also especially glaring that Kore2 refused to show their entire conversation history.
Why does that matter? She's the one opening the conversation talking about her situation with mafumafu and how she couldn't get the romance she wanted.
>he was playing you for a fool
He literally said they're not dating. You only insist he's "playing" anything is because you desperately want a reality where Rushia did not love mafumafu.
You can't simultaneously whine about bad translations and how I don't undetrstand Japanese but then also claim that korekore intentionally showed messages that make it look like she's in love with mafu if the "real translation" makes it obvious that she's not.
Your argument doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037410
Stable as always.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037425
Kinda

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037422
Why would you even admit to making those types of cringeworthy posts daily?
We mostly just laugh at you and call you a bot because you come across like an actual machine rather than a living, breathing human being.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037460
>She was using it in regards to mafumafu though.
No, she wasn't. It was quite literally a seperate clause. Go re-read it. You don't say "someday..." when talking about a specific person. She was talking about her love life as a general thing in the actually yabai sentence.

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>>44037460
NTA but you know Korekore is a dramafag don't you? He live for drama, not show up all conversation is a classic way to control the narrative

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037460
Lol, I didn't make an argument about translation.
My argument is that Kore2 didn't even bother showing all of his messages to her.
And the 恋愛 thing isn't even a matter of translations. It's about the definition of a single term, which you'd know if you actually understood Japanese.

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>>44037190
Interacting with Mafu on her work discord profile and not having a separate station set up for work in the first place was something wrong. Not termination worthy but stupid on her part, she was to blame for her own troubles there. The fact she was so heavily gfe and built it up as not having contact with men also meant that when she fucked up she has more to lose from it than most, even within the idol and female streamer culture of Japan.
Her going to KoreKore was a mistake too, both in what she provided to him (leading to her termination) but also going to him at all. It wasn’t the first time she had done it so the established pattern of interaction with a gossipy dramatuber made things worse for her as that interaction was one of the things alluded to in the termination notice, not just the leak of internal company communications.

[Anonymous No.]

It's worth mentioning that even mfmf said kore2 was wrong about her pursuing him and that he was often the one inviting her instead of the other way around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037478
The idea that you refuse to watch Mikeneko, yet still post in shitty bait threads about her, is extremely odd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037681
Sorry, by post, I mean post to defend her
If you were anti posting, I'd actually understand. But you're not

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037681
I came here to explain why Laplus deserves some of the flak she's gotten, the discussion leading to Rushia was just coincidence.

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>laplus thread
>ends up discussing Rushia
this isn't even the first time this has happened, fucking why?

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>>44037079
>Mel for example, she interacts with men just fine.
Actually I think Mel would probably like to have had less interaction with certain males.

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>>44037739
>>44037754
>coincidence
Same people who anti La+ anti Rushia/Mikeneko
Literally the same. It's never a concidence. They share a few autistic schizos on here

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>>44037778
kek

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>>44037358
>read the actual text. She said he wouldn't meet with her anymore, as in IRL meeting period.
>ご飯とかもう行けない
She specifically mentions going out to eat but yes it also includes anything else. It's a recall back to the time they did go out to eat.

>>44037542
Yes she was. It was the same message where she was reporting to korekore about her status with mafumafu.

>>44037591
Now what would the additional conversation contain? Her talking about her precious fandead in codename?

>>44037623
>Lol, I didn't make an argument about translation.
Yeah you did. You said I must have read a bad secondhand translation and that I just don't understand any Japanese at all.
The 恋愛 thing makes perfect sense the way it's there. You just insist it's nonsense and must be related to some completely different conversation because you can't accept that it's about mafumafu. Why even argue about it's definition if you're also going to say it's not about mafu?

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>>44037785
I don't anti Rushia, I just defended her up there. I just don't want to watch her anymore, not while she's in the gutter as Nazuna. If she went back to Mike only I'd return.

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>>44037848
>Yes she was. It was the same message where she was reporting to korekore about her status with mafumafu
Please understand the purpose of a linebreak

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Snake
Traitor
Basic Bitch
Backstabber
Sloth

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>>44037859
I wasn't calling you an anti
I was saying that the thread didn't switch to Rushia by coincidence
The main La+ anti here is also a Rushia anti. He'll take any chance to shit on her.

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Wow the cuckifami mass report force never disappoints. Nothing offtopic has been posted but they manage it every single time.

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holy shit that's the longest string of consecutive text ive ever seen on an imageboard

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>>44037328
>will forever hate kson for tricking her into doing that.
I think kson had the best intentions in it and didn’t mean to trick Rushia any more than she was tricked herself. Rushia really needs structure, management and a support network but given her termination it was unlikely she could get that with a big Japanese company as they wouldn’t want her. Unfortunately you can’t get that from twitch streaming on vshojo either but I don’t think kson was any more aware of how that would play out than Rushia was.

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>>44037961
>Please note that discussion should pertain to a VTuber's streams and content, and should not pertain to their real lives, relationships, or appearances ("IRL").
Choke on a cock

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>>44037918
I made some posts against Laplus, but I am not an anti. Also don't care about Rushia at all, she was fun to watch and that's it for me.

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>>44037899
Let's hear your interpretation of the message then. What does the linebreak signify? She's just randomly wishing for romance after saying all that about mafumafu? Why does she sign it off with ご報告でした?

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>>44038004
Yeah I don't know about that. I do think that kson genuinely tried to help her, but she was definitely not upfront with her about what vshojo would be like.
We're talking about kson, the woman that soon after streamed on chaturbate, collabed with fucking nuxtaku, appeared on trash taste and the woman that became trashier than she ever was.
I highly doubt she told Rushia about what the fuck vshojo really is. About Vei and her public bf, Nyanners and her public bf, about the guy with the tts, the other whores and so on.

I refuse to believe that Rushia would have ever said yes if she had been fully aware of everything.

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>>44038023
You don't actually care about enforcing this rule though. You just report posts you don't like while leaving the posts you agree with alone even if they all mention the exact same things.

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>>44038183
Oh I forgot to mention that kson has since tried to get her to join male collabs more than once

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>>44038192
This is literally your headcanon, and you're only saying it to justify posting stuff that is off topic.
You're an actual disgrace of a human being.

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>>44038040
>I made some posts against Laplus, but I am not an anti.
Yeah you are.

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How the fuck did a Laplus bait thread end up with fandead wandering in and somehow getting themselves baited into another argument about mafu2?

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>>44038239
Why didn't you mass report the post that first started talking about mafumafu? You got triggered by the 恋愛 thing getting brought up again and that's when you started reporting.

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>>44038259
Agreeing that Laplus fucked up and caused much of the flak she's getting herself through her actions doesn't make you an anti though

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>>44038304
They do it all on their own. I don't even know why they're so invested in Laplus when they're supposed to only like one vtuber.

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>>44038075
>She's just randomly wishing for romance after saying all that about mafumafu?
>randomly
The whole point is that by not knowing the previous convo, we have no way to know you idiot. If Kore2 made the conversation poking her asking if she had a romantic interest in him, she'd be too autistic to fucking deny it outright to him. Probably why he had his initial misinterpretation about them being in a relationship.
But yes, it was quite clearly her wishing for a lovelife in general.
> ご報告でした?
read the first line of the message you N99.

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>>44038373
>invested in Laplus
Actually I just search "Rushia" on warosu every hour or so, I have no idea why I end up in Laplus b threads occasionally

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>>44038259
Just because I think she's in the wrong, at least partially, it doesn't mean I am an anti.

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>>44038373
It's because La+ has the same antis here as Rushia
So if you want to actually refute people shitting on Rushia, you just stay in La+ bait threads until one of the antis randomly shits on Rushia.

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>>44035937
Is Gura streaming this week?

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>>44038454
Sasuga
Out of curiosity, why are you so committed to defending her on this? I think it's a good thing, just to be clear, but I'm curious as to your reasons for doing it

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>>44038377
>If Kore2 made the conversation poking her asking if she had a romantic interest in him
We know she went to korekore to ask about mafumafu's past, and to ask him to delete her part from the stream where she talked about Mahoto. That's why she's even talking about mafumafu in the message in the first place.
>Probably why he had his initial misinterpretation about them being in a relationship.
His first thought when he was getting spam about the discord message was that he couldn't believe it because according to Rushia their relationship wasn't doing good. His "misinterpretation" was him accepting what the spammers were saying and to hype up his coming stream because he had all the background information.

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The amount of mental gymnastics and outright ignoring of information her antis have to do is astonishing.

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>>44038978
What information has been ignored?

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>>44037328
>>44038183
>larpfag trying to raise shit between kson and nazuna again.
stay mad
stay gay

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>>44038918
>We know she went to korekore to ask about mafumafu's past, and to ask him to delete her part from the stream where she talked about Mahoto.
Correct
>That's why she's even talking about mafumafu in the message in the first place.
Assumption
>His first thought when he was getting spam about the discord message was that he couldn't believe it because according to Rushia their relationship wasn't doing good. His "misinterpretation" was him accepting what the spammers were saying and to hype up his coming stream because he had all the background information.
He went all in on the "oh are people REALLY angry about idols in relationships come on now" bit almost immediately, don't lie

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>>44038903
I am schizophrenic

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>>44037848
Why don't you just post the entire transcript exactly how it was instead of picking and choosing single lines out of context?
Is it because it would undermine your "argument"?

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>>44039190
>Assumption
How is that an assumption? Why wouldn't she continue to talk about mafumafu when she went to him for that reason in the first place?
>He went all in on the "oh are people REALLY angry about idols in relationships come on now" bit almost immediately, don't lie
I didn't lie anywhere. I said his first thought was that he didn't believe it. He said it on his stream, retard.
People are capable of thinking differently to what they are saying, and that's what he did. All the information he had beforehand was that Rushia and mafu are not terribly close since January despite Rushia's attempts and suddenly there are people are claiming they're dating a month later.

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>>44039647
If you got something to point out from the full transcript then do it yourself you lazy fuck. Why do you faggots always expect others to do everything for you?

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>>44039691
>. I said his first thought was that he didn't believe it. He said it on his stream, retard.
No, he didn't.
The part where he said that he didn't believe it was his second stream, not the one where people first brought it up
His response in the first stream was basically
>oh, has this come out, oh I see
Basically, hyping it up so that his stream covering the issue would get a shit ton of views. People were pointing to his initial reactions as evidence that they WERE dating.
>despite Rushia's attempts
Kek

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>>44039801
Oh, so you're admitting to being disingenous? Why would anyone believe you're telling the truth then, faggot?

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>>44039859
>The part where he said that he didn't believe it was his second stream, not the one where people first brought it up
Yes. Why the fuck would he say it on his first stream where he has to hype up the alleged romantic relationship? That would just spoil his show.
>Kek
Why does she want to go meet up with mafumafu and feel bad about the state of her relationship with him? Why was she going to korekore for advice and had him hide the Mahoto stuff?

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>>44039691
>How is that an assumption? Why wouldn't she continue to talk about mafumafu when she went to him for that reason in the first place?
The assumption is that the the love life comment was about mafumafu and not a comment in general
It's comical how he never demonstrated the messages of her asking about his relationship history either so that we couldn't read the tone at all and could only go off of his interpretation.
>he didn't believe it
IIRC that was one off-hand comment before he went all in. You're acting as if he made some sort of hard stance of opposition towards it when he was clearly readily pandering to the narrative almost immediately

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>44031027
This is that same retard that always tries to argue her hate all comes from made up /vt/ rrats, that the japs don't have anything against her unless the fell for 4chans lies

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Just a reminder Kore2 is one of those people who believe that you should stop supporting any female streamers with boyfriends
Keep that in mind when you realise how willing he was to let people entertain the idea of Rushia cheating on her fans before he finally did that second stream to disprove the rumours

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>>44040011
>Yes. Why the fuck would he say it on his first stream where he has to hype up the alleged romantic relationship? That would just spoil his show.
So you ADMIT he was disingenuous from the start?
>feel bad
She feels bad about everything
She thought her fans would hate her for not telling them she bought a hamster
She wants to be liked by everyone and clearly mfmf didn't like her
>mahoto
That is literally a completely different topic????
>advice
Questions that korekore never ever even provided receipts for

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>>44039897
No? I'm saying I'm not doing any work for you.

>>44040058
>It's comical how he never demonstrated the messages of her asking about his relationship history either so that we couldn't read the tone at all and could only go off of his interpretation.
He never demonstrated her asking for the Mahoto stuff to be deleted either, but it was deleted sometime in 2021. Are we now supposed to believe that she never actually asked him to do that and he did it himself to build up this grand narrative that he would use later to slander her?
>IIRC that was one off-hand comment before he went all in.
It was something he only revealed in the first big stream where he clarified that they're not actually dating.
>You're acting as if he made some sort of hard stance of opposition towards it
When did I do that? I said it's what he thought, which he did because that's what's realistic based on the information he had. He never said it out loud until later. You seem desperate to fight every little thing I say.

>>44040223
>So you ADMIT he was disingenuous from the start?
Did I claim say otherwise? Why is me ADMITTING!!!! this such a big gotcha? What am I admitting? It's fucking obvious he was going with whatever the chat believed. Why the fuck wouldn't he?
>She wants to be liked by everyone and clearly mfmf didn't like her
Why be in a situation where being liked or disliked by mafumafu is a thing?
>That is literally a completely different topic????
It's related to the mafumafu thing since she wasked korekore to hide it so mafumafu wouldn't see it.
>Questions that korekore never ever even provided receipts for
Her updating him about how she and mafu are getting along isn't proof enough?

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>>44040615
>Her updating him about how she and mafu are getting along isn't proof enough?
No, because that's not a receipt relevant to what that anon was talking about
>He never demonstrated her asking for the Mahoto stuff to be deleted either, but it was deleted sometime in 2021. Are we now supposed to believe that she never actually asked him to do that and he did it himself to build up this grand narrative that he would use later to slander her?
If he didn't provide a receipt for her asking for it to be deleted, it means we don't know the actual reason for the deletion, yes? For all you know, the actual reason was that she didn't want fans to see the video and that would be an equally valid interpretation because WE DON'T HAVE RECEIPTS

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>>44040615
>He never demonstrated her asking for the Mahoto stuff to be deleted either, but it was deleted sometime in 2021. Are we now supposed to believe that she never actually asked him to do that and he did it himself to build up this grand narrative that he would use later to slander her?
Considering he was proven to deliberately misinterpret the information she sent him, it's his interpretation of the messages that are in question, not their existence
>Why be in a situation where being liked or disliked by mafumafu is a thing?
What does this question even mean?
Am I denying that she associated with him at all? Clearly not.
>she asked him to hide it so mafumafu wouldn't see it
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Holy shit are you retarded?
>her updating him
Mind actually looking at that conversation as a whole? Does it LOOK like she instigated that entire convo for the sake of that update, when the entire rest of the convo was explicitly about something entirely different? Or does it look like a way to ease into a conversation?

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>>44040788
>MUH RECEIPYS
Yeah she suddenly after two years wanted to hide the Mahoto video from her fans and went to talk to korekore to do it, but korekore used his mind reading abilites and got her to talk about hololive and mafumafu.

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>>44040615
Wait, do you seriously not know that Mafumafu and Mahoto know each other?

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>>44040919
>Yeah she suddenly after two years wanted to hide the Mahoto video from her fan
Same logic back at you because her dinner with mafu was in 2020 you dip

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>she asked kore to delete the mahoto bit for the sake of mafumafu
>mafumafu was literally friends with mahoto and mahoto is known to shittalk his exes
man this is a trip

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>>44040880
>he was proven to deliberately misinterpret the information she sent him
What did he misinterpret?
>What does this question even mean?
Why was she talking to mafu at all? She shouldn't have. She was supposed to be afraid of men, not have a dozen male friends.
>Holy shit are you retarded?
Yeah I'm actually retarded. Why did she ask for the that part to be hidden? You're a fucking moron.
>Mind actually looking at that conversation as a whole?
What the fuck is there to look at? It's all about how she is doing with mafumafu.

>>44040973
I do. Why does that matter?

>>44041003
How does that change anything?

>>44041116
Then why did she get it deleted in 2021?

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>>44041288
>Why does that matter?
Why bother getting a video talking about Mahoto deleted for Mafu when he can literally just ask either Kore2 or Mahoto about it, considering he knows both?
>Then why did she get it deleted in 2021?
We never saw her request, so we literally don't know. We only have Kore's word and his word is bum

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>>44041288
>Why was she talking to mafu at all? She shouldn't have. She was supposed to be afraid of men, not have a dozen male friends.
You're right, she absolutely fucked up here. That's a completely seperate issue however.
>What did he misinterpret?
You even admitted him hyping it up in his first stream for the sake of the show despite knowing it was incorrect to.
>what is there to look at
how the next lines are all about her workplace
>why delete it in 2021
maybe because she was fucking reminded of it?
she also tried to wipe her mikeneko twitter history around roughly the same time(using an obvious scam of a deletion tool that then took over her account and started spamming ads for the fake deletion tool, she then relocked her account)

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>>44041528
>Why bother getting a video talking about Mahoto deleted for Mafu
Yeah, why bother? It was deleted nonetheless around the time she got back in contact with kore, who she was talking to because of mafu.
If she wasn't talking to him because of mafu, then why was she talking to him? The other alternative was that she was always seeking to spread information about hololive/Cover, which would be objectively worse, but in the weird reality where you believe she's your wife you'd probably much rather believe that one, unless you also hate thinking that she dislikes hololive.

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There are actual schizo autistic retards in this thread holy shit

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>>44041703
>You even admitted him hyping it up in his first stream for the sake of the show despite knowing it was incorrect to.
Yes. How is this ADMITTING!!!!11!! anything though? It's just the facts. Do you think I'm some kind of korekore defence representative? I'm simply telling you what he did, said and thought. Some are according to himself and some are my interpretations.
It wasn't a genuine misinterpretation though because he didn't believe it. It was intentional misrepresentation on his part.
>how the next lines are all about her workplace
She said nothing about her work in the first conversation in January. It was all about mafumafu and how she fucked it up due to being menhera.
>she also tried to wipe her mikeneko twitter history around roughly the same time
She also messaged Aki around the same time asking for relationship advice. The guy is nuts but the timing of him suddenly posting about getting messages of that nature from her can't be ignored.

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>>44042118
And what's the source of her messaging Aki? Aki himself and no one else?
That fucking deranged schizo?

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>>44042118
>citing Aki
oh boy

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>>44042298
>>44042420
Why did he suddenly just remember her existence mid November and make up a bunch of fake messages? Was it just pure coincidence and he's only ever lying and never had any connectiong to her at all?

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>>44041748
>If she wasn't talking to him because of mafu, then why was she talking to him? The other alternative was that she was always seeking to spread information about hololive/Cover, which would be objectively worse,
>discussing workplace drama with somebody you're retarded enough to still trust because he acts nice is intentionally spreading information
spreading usually implies an actual spread and not a single person being informed who then does nothing to spread it himself

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>>44042490
>is a schizo a schizo?
are you for real

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>>44042490
Aki is a known liar who claimed she once gave him one of her shoes as a romantic present
I wouldn't have even bothered responding to you if you just admitted to being an Akifag from the start

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>>44042525
Why pretend that korekore is a regular single person and not someone that will spread your info to millions of people?

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God he's literally going for all of the rrats now
A cornered cat will strike back

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>>44042490
Are you the same retard who believes nearly everything on her Zense?

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>>44042623
Why pretend that Mikeneko is smart enough to think through her decisions to that degree?

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>>44042574
>>44042592
If he's such a dedicated Rushia anti why didn't he post anything her before that time?

>>44042762
I have no idea what's on there, but I guess you're one of those people who think she had nothing to do with otoriza since that's probably there and doesn't make her look good.

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>>44042844
Holy fucking strawmsn you unironic arse burglar

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>>44042805
Are you seriously suggesting that she's so massively brain damaged that she doesn't understand how a dramatuber can disseminate information even though she has had several interactions with the guy for that very reason?

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>>44042905
What strawman? You didn't even make any argument beyond calling him a schizo liar. You're going to need a really good reason for him to post that shit in November that's not just "he schizo".
I don't even believe any of the random shit he claimed in February because he was clearly motivated to just dogpile bullshit at that point in time.

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>>44042945
>Are you seriously suggesting that she's so massively brain damaged that she doesn't understand how a dramatuber can disseminate information even though she has had several interactions with the guy for that very reason?
She once raised the FPS cap of Minecraft from 60 to 120 when people complained about stream framerate issues
Yes

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>>44043798
Talking to people is the same as technical knowledge
Yes