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So, do we forgive her?

>> No.44014323

>>44014305
I don't forgive anyone who didn't ask forgiveness first.

>> No.44014332

>we

>> No.44014336

>>44014305
not until she does naked dogeza

>> No.44014373

>>44014305
Deja que Dios perdóne. Déjame a mí castigarla.

>> No.44014399

>>44014305
no

>> No.44014480

>>44014305
That huge crowd that showed up was probably half there wondering if she was gonna graduate or not. I wouldn't mistake it for enthusiasm so much as rubbernecking. Lappy has a long fucking way to go to regain peoples' trust, like streaming 5-10 hours a day every day for a year straight kind of way to go.

>> No.44014559

>>44014305
I still can't

>> No.44014584

>>44014323
fpbp

>> No.44014720

Did she properly apologize and say she'll now focus on Hololive and not ghosting her fans with minimal effort?

>> No.44014740

>>44014720
What do you think?

>> No.44014778

>>44014720
>30 minutes stream
How about no?

>> No.44014838
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44014838

>>44014305
>>44014323
>>44014336
>>44014399
>>44014480
>>44014559
>>44014584
>>44014720
>>44014778
>I forgive (You) seanigger-tachi

>> No.44014844

>>44014305
You are the worst poster on this board

>> No.44014934

>>44014838
I didn't send any kind of threat to her nor I have spread any kind of rumor.

>> No.44015090

>>44014305
>45k
Who cares if the incels forgive her or not. It's just a very loud minority.

>> No.44015201

Ill keeping sending her death threat bcz internet said its cool

>> No.44015295

>>44014480
It's EOPs tuning in because she's back dude. She's in a situation like towa's after her yab where EOPs are keeping her afloat. The only streams of hers that were doing good before her hiatus were karaoke's because EOPs tune into those. She had some of the lowest numbers in JP on gameplay streams. JP fans are done with her.

>> No.44015332

>>44014305
We do for she is a loli.

>> No.44015349

>>44015090
Nigga, people always have huge numbers on their first stream after a hiatus. Bet you two weeks from now she's back to 4K or lower like right before her hiatus. She had some of the lowest numbers in holoJP.

>> No.44015446

She is cute. Why not ? :V

>> No.44015464

Maybe this time she can make a new Utaite group..

>> No.44015535

>>44015349
Nijiseethe

>> No.44015630

the fuck she do?

>> No.44015639

she hasn't done anything wrong

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44015696

>>44015295
>The only streams of hers that were doing good before her hiatus were karaoke's
is 7k good for karaoke?

>> No.44015726

literally who??

>> No.44015819

>>44014838
Telling the truth will never be a slander

>> No.44015856

>>44014305
nah

>> No.44015874

>>44015819
Japan doesn't care if its true or not, if you make a statement with the intent of maliciously harming someone's reputation then it is illegal.

>> No.44016020

I dont even know what's to forgive, never watched her streams i just jerk off to her art.

>> No.44016187

>>44015696
Depends on context. Good for her? Yes. Good for holojp? No.

>> No.44016230

>>44016187
That's not even good for her

>> No.44016529

>>44015874
Thankfully this isn't japan so we can freely talk the truth about someone and have an opinion on them.
>>44014838
The sense of entitlement is actually insane. Instead of trying to calm the waters down, focusing on her fans, say "I'm sorry" to them (because her fans deserve it) she just focuses on people shitting on her. The least she could've done is reflect on why people came to hate her so much, but asking for a zoomer to do introspection is asking for too much I guess.
Even if her antis went overboard on her with alleged treats her behavior was what brought them to her. For her own sake she should think a little bit about it because in the end this mostly affects her.

>> No.44016775

>>44015874
How can they tell the intent of someone who's making a truthful statement?

>> No.44016820

>>44014305
>/vt/ never forgives
>/vt/ never forgets

>> No.44016855

>>44016820
Is/vt/ an elephant?

>> No.44016867

>>44014373
Pablo, por favor. Compórtate.

>> No.44016880

What's the drama here? I'm not a vtuber person.

>> No.44016907

>>44016880
Why are you even here, then?

>> No.44016944

>>44016775
nta but he's right on that. In japan you can easily sue someone if they say something about you you don't like. It's kinda recent and it's really fucked up.

>> No.44016948

>>44016907
Because I saw a picture of an anime girl with huge horns on the front page.

>> No.44016957

>>44014305
Brah I saw something most people will not believe. But in fc2jav there's a chick who looks exactly like laplus rm getting railed

>> No.44017009

>>44016529
She genuinely doesn't seem to understand that she's been in the wrong or that some stuff she has done was wrong. At the same time she doesn't seem to be a bad person and this is what baffles me the most.

>> No.44017040

>>44016944
I know, but it is extremely dumb.

>> No.44017070

>>44017009
remember when her ip address got doxed so people rushed to 2ch or a 2ch adjacent site to see what they could dig up on her and they actually found posts and it was just her defending genmates and talking up hololive

>> No.44017198 [SPOILER] 

so glad she's back.

>> No.44017259

>>44015630
>>44015639
She hasn’t done anything “wrong”, no. She just fucks off to do things outside of her Hololive account whenever she has the chance, making people not want to emotionally commit to watching her content.
Clearly not giving a shit isn’t a crime, but it won’t get you very many fans.

>> No.44017277

>>44017009
>she doesn't seem to be a bad person
If
>ghosting her genmates on their first full gen live by cancelling at last moment
>trying to funnel her holo viewers to her rm
>openning the most expensive fantia out of all holo rm by far (while submitting barely any content both as her rm and as laplus)
>telling her fans she wasn't gonna collab with males and then going on a male rampage that not even towa has ever gone
>trying to farm gachikoi while on their backs she's constantly trying to get closer with male e-celebs
>still not asking for forgiveness or even implying she's gonna change her ways and try to live up to her fans' expectation.
is not something you deem as bad, then fine. Personally I do think she's a bad person.

>> No.44017297

>>44017070
She was just defending herself and her rm activity if I recall correctly. Anyway that doesn't matter, there is a lot of stuff that makes me believe that she's, or at least was, an good person. That's why I can't really believe that she has never thought about how her fans would feel. And even during her break it seems she didn't even try to see things from a different prospective.

>> No.44017344

>>44017277
she didn't "ghost" anyone. she had to take a break because antis were harassing her. compare that to the shark who got "sick" and vanished for 3 months.

>> No.44017430

>>44017344
She was playing valorant either before or after the live (can't remember) and she was tweeting normally before the live. Even if Cover suspended her because she's a walking bomb that doesn't change the fact she doesn't care about hololive and that's exactly what made her fall.

>> No.44017458

>>44016820
Its ok /vt/ is never relevant

>> No.44017512

>>44017430
Before and after. Before it was with a guy

>> No.44017567

>>44017512
Oh, thank you. I thought it was only one way. It was actually back to back then.
>with a guy
At this point that's a given. Why would she play it if it wasn't for that?

>> No.44017589

>>44014323
based

>> No.44017656

its always funny people mention towa and gachikoi like she doesnt have thousands and her merch doesnt sell out instantly

>> No.44017658

Glad i don't give a shit about roommate and their offline activities. Cover doesn't either. Don't like her, don't watch her simple as.

>> No.44017753

of course holocucks forgive her

>> No.44017802

>>44014305
No here watched her or even knew what went wrong with her. How could you even begin to think about forgiving her?

>> No.44017848

>>44014305
I can't forgive her as there is no sin to forgive.

>> No.44017996

>>44017070
>defending genmates
She was only defending herself and her lack of content during the break she took to move (during which she instead played valo with streamers). She also namedropped her roommate and doxxed her own age.

>> No.44018174

>>44017996
I am fairly sure she replied to comments mentioning her roommate, it's not like she namedropped it out of nowere

>> No.44018309

>>44018174
It wasn't a direct reply to anyone but a post acknowledging ongoing discussion about her roommate. She said the name and said something about her age.

>> No.44018485

>>44018309
Same difference, the point is that she didn't bring up the roommate out of nowhere. It was already a topic of discussion.

>> No.44020038

>>44017277
Heimin hands wrote this post. Why do you feel the need to drag down other girls to make your oshi look better?

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>>44015295
>EOPs are keeping her alive
PUH-LEAZE, English chat was at a mere 8%. An uptick, yes, but hardly anything to write home about. Call me when its above 30% consistently and then I'll grant validity of there being an EOP savior effort for Laplus

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44020556

>>44014305
>"So, do we forgive her?"
>not even a fan
>didn't get betrayed cause didn't care to begin with
>just a nobody hopping on the blame, when in reality isn't even mad
>probably even slandered her on social media and will get out for free cause Laplus won't waste her time with nobodies, despite having the rights to

>> No.44020666

>>44020556
based summary

>> No.44020777

>>44020556
Glad you aren't talking about me, I still feel betrayed to this very day and it's awful.

>> No.44021141

>>44017009
So she has no empathy but convinces others she's normal? Sounds like some form of sociopathy or narcissism.

>> No.44021343 [DELETED] 

>>44015295
>JP fans are done with her.
Is this true or are you just mistaking chinks and seaniggers for actual japanese?

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>>44014305
This bitch gave me herpes, so no, I don't forgive her.

>> No.44021427

>>44014305
>everything hort

>> No.44021461

>>44014305
SHE LITERALLY DID NOTHING SHE SHOULD BE FORGIVEN FOR! SUCK A DICK!

>> No.44021529

>I claim a png
>png does something I dont like
holocucks amiright

>> No.44021530

>>44021461
She did join the wrong corpo. I heard Vshojo are still hiring used goods.

>> No.44021537

>>44016957
With horns and everything?

>> No.44021554

>>44021141
Which makes even less sense because she seems to be quite emotive and empathetic

>> No.44021574

>>44021530
You need to join Holo first before you can join vshojo.

>> No.44021627

>>44021574
You need to join your mum first, before you can join Holo

>> No.44021631

>>44021574
It's funny because it's true.

>> No.44021655

>>44014838
i kneel
Laplus the Merciful

>> No.44021809

>>44021554
>makes even less sense
no it makes sense if you understand what narcissists and sociopaths do to fit in society and their peer groups. They don't have actual empathy i.e. the ability to relate to another's pain, and instead can mask it with what's called cognitive empathy which means they understand the other side's perspective without understanding their pain. An example is how police just shoot family pets on sight and high five each other for it and then later say they're sorry about it. It's not real empathy, just cognitive empathy to get out of trouble. My explanation isn't 100% but you get the idea. If La+ has this then Holo is in for a bumpy ride.

>> No.44022077

>>44021809
forgive to be forgiven. you could learn a lot from Laplus anon

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44022297

But in the first place, should we start with forgiving Kiara and Calli?
We have done a lot of wrong things to those EN girls.

>> No.44024549

>>44021809
If she's such a psycho why don't you just stop watching her/stop talking about her. Hololive can handle itself just fine.

>> No.44024720

>>44014305
...For what?

>> No.44024824

>>44014305
rumao, how arrogant do you have to be to consider forgiving someone who doesn't even know you exist? You're nothing, OP. Your life will never amount to anything. The only useful you can do is neck yourself so you won't have to use up another's oxygen.

>> No.44024896

>>44024824
vt in a nutshell desu

>> No.44025035

>lgbt bitch
No

>> No.44025082

>>44014305
Yeah, we love her here, right pedo bros?

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44025280

>>44014305
if she takes care of her hololive side more often, then I will. I believe in laplus.

>> No.44025403

>>44025082
four million /s

>> No.44025412

>>44024720
for being harassed by antis

>> No.44025633

>>44014305
As a lolicon I should be all over Laplus, but honestly I stopped giving a fuck about her early on.
She is cute, has a fun personality and all, but damn she acts like a spoiled bitch who doesnt really care about Hololive in general. Constantly doing shit she shouldnt be, and I think she just stopped streaming for months even before she got herpes? I am surprised she even still in Hololive.

>> No.44025738

I don't forgive her for skipping out on the HoloX anniversary.

>> No.44025808

>>44014934
Then you are not forgiven

>> No.44025909

>>44022297
There is nothing to forgive, only lots to apologize for.

>> No.44026031

>>44025082
Meh, shork does the "you're nothing and you will forgive me cuz I'm cute" thing better.

>> No.44026043

>>44020314
plot twist, english speakers didn't chat very much because laplus can't speak english so it's a fucking waste of time

>> No.44026116

>>44025909
ok cuckbeat, your oshi is a fat pig btw, her latest 3d showcase proved it, i don't even have to rely on doxx shit anymore to tell you she's a pig

>> No.44029489

>>44014323
Fpbp

>> No.44031767

>>44014305
This bitch should just double down and go the Towa route. It pays off in the long run.

>> No.44031936

>>44017259
>emotionally commit
you people are freaks. I don't watch this chick and have no idea what she's done but I know you weirdos unironically think whatever minor offense she's done to piss you off is gonna have you seething for months.

>> No.44031968

>>44014323
That's not how that works

>> No.44032936

>>44031936
She had a ratio of 1 hour of hololive streaming for every 4 hour of her roommate account streaming with males

>> No.44033122

>>44031968
How’s that? Once she apologizes and starts trying harder then maybe she’ll be forgiven

>> No.44034192

>>44031936
its about having respect for the industry you are in you dumb fuck, she was streaming literally 3-4 times on her RM account compared to Holo not to mention every holo stream was low effort 1 hour trash, its really not that crazy

>> No.44035440

>>44034192
This is just bullshit, her roommate streams have almost always been less frequent than her holo stuff.

>> No.44035978

>>44035440
I honestly had no problem with them outside of the time she spent the day saying she's really sick but then did a singing stream and hours of valorant.

>> No.44036403

>>44035978
Reverse the order, also Valorant was with her friends. And her voice was getting better. The following day she had a karaoke as Laplus, so that was mostly for practice.

>> No.44036571

>>44036403
She was supposed to be extremely sick. You're voice just doesn't magically get better while being in the state she claimed to be in.
Never had a problem with valorant with friends but doing it for hours when she claimed to be sick is another matter.

>> No.44036696

>>44036571
Just by the end of the Twitcast you could already tell she was doing a lot better.

>> No.44036851

>>44036696
She was so much better she then had another stream where she proclaimed that she's very sick.

>> No.44037171

>>44036851
And she wasn't actually doing that badly.

>> No.44039272

In her case, she deserved 80% of what she got. She says she was mentally depressed, but honestly, if you can't stand that level of criticism, you're not cut out to be a streamer.
There may have been some slander, but considering that about half of it was legitimate criticism of her actions, it could be said that she brought it on herself.

>> No.44040320

>>44035440
you dumb nigger look at the fucking streams she was streaming 4 hours on rm for every 1 on hololive you absolute ape its not about the number of streams you stupid fuck its about the time streamed, you LA+ defenders get more retarded by the day

>> No.44040540

>>44040320
Again that's not true.

>> No.44040590

>>44040320
Also funny that you call me a defender of hers, because I have also have been called an anti.

>> No.44043856

>>44040540
lol if you choose to live in delusion and defend this trash tier human being thats on you, but the numbers dont lie, shes just a piece of shit its really that simple, go pay 50k yen for her trash tier asmr you little bitch

>> No.44044295

>>44043856
She's trash simple as
I hope she has more menhera meltdowns
and gets fired.

>> No.44046007

Ok, can we get a complete thing on what she did wrong exactly? With as many sources as possible.
Not implying she did nothing wrong the question isn't taking a stance I only want to have a clear picture of what's what so the back and forth can have any sense.
The only thing I've seen sourced is her 5ch posts defending herself and her IP doxx, what exactly is wrong with that?
From what I can find, her RM account only has ~1h max streams archived, where are you guys getting that 1h/4h thing from,? I've seen it before, multiple times. Am I just on the wrong streaming site?
Lack of investment in hololive I'd argue is more suggestive, imo she did collabs, participated in events like the sports festival and probably more I'm forgetting, so I don't truly think she had a true lack of investment (but that's personal). However, if the "more investment on RM" thing does turn out to be actually true (so far I've only seen "it's true!!" "no it isn't!!!" type posts) that is something bad.
The only thing that could be bad from stuff with backing would be her ditching the anniversary, which was really bad. However, if my slight grasp of Japanese is to be trusted, I understood that at one point she came to a studio to do something, her voice simply wouldn't come out. If that is true (regardless of if that was for the anniversary or not) then it would be forgivable.
Seems to me like she just really needed to log off for a while. (which I believe she addressed in the comeback stream)

>> No.44046539

now that i know that our bullying was effective, i want to bully the shit out of her even more.

>> No.44051065

>>44014305
nah

>> No.44054907

>>44040320
Lol you are not entitled to a person's streaming decision you dumb fuck. As long as they meet whatever contract they have with Cover, that's what matters to them. If you're paying for a membership and you feel you're not getting your money's worth, you have the option to discontinue. If you are "much hort" because you got emotionally attached and you think her streaming activities is a betrayal of your trust, that's on you, you unhinged mentalcase.

>> No.44054967

>>44014305
>we
I don't. You can do whatever you want.

>> No.44054994

>>44046007
Here's a list of some of the things she did that you can all see from Laplus accounts with no "roommate" stuff and it's not even all of it >>43193584
>The only thing I've seen sourced is her 5ch posts defending herself and her IP doxx, what exactly is wrong with that?
She participated in roommate discussions and named herself. This is relevant because there are people who say she never linked herself to her roommate. Yes, it was on 5ch and she was anonymous, but she herself still did it in a Laplus thread.
She also did it during her one week break that she took for moving. She promised she would post video content during that time and then only posted one video. She defended this by saying she never said it was going to be multiple videos and that she's always working really hard. It was also during this moving break when she would take a day off for "packing", but instead spent it playing Valorant with streamers.
>From what I can find, her RM account only has ~1h max streams archived, where are you guys getting that 1h/4h thing from,? I've seen it before, multiple times. Am I just on the wrong streaming site?
Why are you assuming every stream stays up forever? She streamed on Twitch, Youtube and Twitcasting and all of the archives for those are gone.
>at one point she came to a studio to do something, her voice simply wouldn't come out.
Where are you getting this from?
>If that is true (regardless of if that was for the anniversary or not) then it would be forgivable.
Why would that thing happening on another day other than the anniversary make it forgivable for her to then ditch the aniversary on a later date?

>> No.44057594

boi am i glad none of you people will ever reproduce

>> No.44058647

>>44057594
Yeah, with me

>> No.44060673

>>44054994
Thanks for the info, though I personally don't believe most of the things listed warrant that kind of hate.
I honestly wouldn't care if my favourite vtuber had her boyfriend come on the mic, I'm here for the content, I've always hated the idol culture part of vtubing but I understand it's part of why a lot of people like vtubers. I won't pretend I would be completely stoic in that scenario but I'd probably move on the same day it'd happen.
>Said she feels hurt when she sees her "oshi" with males and understand if her fans want the same from her.
Understanding why her fans would not want that doesn't necessarily mean she would not do it. Unless there's specific proof of her saying she would never, I think this is more of a mixed issue. It seems to be your typical "I would bang this idol but she better not have sex with aa man!!!" mentality to me. But fine, I understand why it's considered wrong.

However, I personally feel there's nothing wrong with these:
>Said she doesn't want brain dead fans who will just congratulate her even if she's in the middle of apologizing for a fuck up and asked them to properly scold her when she's wrong.
If you do a fuck up, like a legit objective fuck up, having idiots go "it wasn't bad at all!!! I love you!!!" is pretty annoying and there's nothing wrong with wanting people to be critical of you (as in will not ALWAYS praise you, not "being negative towards you").
>Wanted to play Rust as Laplus on streamer server when she wasn't allowed to.
So...? Is there more to this or? Looking it up, it was during the "knock" stream where she quickly closed the stream. I'm seeing posts about there being a notification from her manager telling her to quit now because she wasn't allowed on the server (which would explain the sudden shutoff) but again, no screenshots or anything. So I'm just assuming. However
>>Also claiming that her "YouTube crashed".
Seems to be in contradiction with the tweet apologizing for the whole thing (https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1535865005530578945).). No screenshot of it but even then, this could have also just been a "in-the-moment panic" excuse. "He says she says" shit again though. To me, she already apologized so let's move on.
>mentally ill roomate business
Again, where are they getting this from? Any links, screenshots, clips, anything? What points towards the roomate being mentally ill? What proves she was kicked out rather than moved out herself? I'll admit I only occasionally browse /vt/, so is there some like an unspoken rule about not posting this kind of stuff?
>knocking business
Again this might just be personal, but she gave an explanation for it, if we're assuming it's true, then nothing wrong was done. The sudden quitting could have been related to that notification business but again, no proof so this is just an assumption. If it's false, what can be done? Apologizing would make the antis double down because "if she apologizes it means it's true" mentality, and gachikois are going to get pissed off for the same reason. And holocorp might not want that to happen.

For the whole RM during the move break, I do agree this was wrong of her. I personally don't care about the "I never said multiple videos" part but the playing during the packing thing can be seen as wrong. Do we know how long she played for? It could have been a short session while taking a break but hey I'm an apologist and again have nothing to back it up.
>Where are you getting this from?
Not 100% sure if this is the beginning of the story, but go foward from here. The specific sentence is at 7:13
https://youtu.be/2EKMBdASOXY?t=422
>Why would that thing happening on another day other than the anniversary make it forgivable for her to then ditch the anniversary on a later date?
Because if she was literally too mentally stress to perform, she would not be able to perform for the anniversary. Or at the very least, it would ruin the mood. Her break happened very close to the anniversary, so it is safe to assume the incidents were pretty close, at least close enough where her stress would have a clear impact on the stream.

>> No.44060903

>>44014305
Na she's a waste of a holo slot, she'd be a lot happier in vspo (if she was good enough) or niji as well

>> No.44061521

>>44060673
>I've always hated the idol culture part of vtubing
Then stop posting in hololive threads.

>> No.44061950

>>44061521
I rarely do, I did say I rarely browse /vt/. I'm just am now because something's happening and I care about it.

>> No.44063726

>>44060673
>Understanding why her fans would not want that doesn't necessarily mean she would not do it.
Well she said she wouldn't do it and then did it. The only argument left to defend on her this is that she didn't do it on stream.
>there's nothing wrong with wanting people to be critical of you
Who ever implied there's anything wrong with that? That point is there for what's to follow and how she just threw it out completely.
>where are they getting this from?
From her stream. If you didn't see the stream where she brought her just-moved-in roommate on then you shouldn't even be talking about any of this.
>What points towards the roomate being mentally ill?
Her own twitter account.
>What proves she was kicked out rather than moved out herself?
Her bitterness and cryptic shit talking after she stopped being referred to by Laplus.
>she gave an explanation for it
She didn't. The explanation was complete nonsense.
>The sudden quitting could have been related to that notification business
What notification business?
>If it's false, what can be done?
If what is false? There was a knocking sound, she hastily ended her stream after it and then suddenly had a roommate next stream to deliver a nonsensical explanation for it.
>Apologizing would make the antis double down because "if she apologizes it means it's true" mentality,
So now the previous part about not wanting unconditionally affirmative fans is also out the door for you as well. Why say that if apologizing for anything is always wrong?
>And holocorp might not want that to happen.
Dude jus stop talking already and go back to your ENtuber threads. Cover doesn't give a shit. There is no forced gachikoi pandering policy.
>Because if she was literally too mentally stress to perform, she would not be able to perform for the anniversary
She said she was going to be on the stream on the morning of the day of that stream so there was clearly no obstacles on on that day or any precesing days that would be stopping her from appearing. Her absence was announced 30 minutes before the stream and they don't just show up the the studio and go live. They record some bits, go over the script and then start the stream. She was clearly just not informing anyone that she's not coming.
It must also be a total coincidence she happened to be playing valorant all night before that stream.

>> No.44065723

>>44063726
>Well she said she wouldn't do it and then did it.
The linked post did not say that.
>Who ever implied there's anything wrong with that?
You did by linking it as a list of thing she did wrong.
>That point is there for what's to follow and how she just threw it out completely.
Except she did not, when did she throw out the fact she didn't want fans to just be blindly praising her? Even now, she's only targetting the death threats and more hardcore antis, not being critical.
>If you didn't see the stream where she brought her just-moved-in roommate on then you shouldn't even be talking about any of this.
Where did they get the fact that this "mentally ill" girl was brought in only for an excuse and kicked out? Any LINKS to tweets referring to that fact, any pictures of tweets, any clips, ANYTHING?
>Her bitterness and cryptic shit talking after she stopped being referred to by Laplus.
This doesn't constitute as proof of being kicked out, could have moved out on her own because of they didn't get along. Until you show me anything about this, it's just speculation.
>She didn't. The explanation was complete nonsense.
Let's agree to disagree on the logic behind the explanation, but she has given one regardless. I have yet to even hear what the knock sounded like.
>What notification business?
Explained in my post, please read it again.
>If what is false?
If the notification business isn't real, please read the sentence for the first time.
>So now the previous part about not wanting unconditionally affirmative fans is also out the door for you as well
Because from what she has said about it, there was nothing wrong about the situation. Therefore there is no need to be critical because it was not a fuck up according to the information she gave. (and read the whole post before making your reply to this)
>go back to your ENtuber threads
*ad hominem picture*
>There is no forced gachikoi pandering policy.
That is not what I meant, I meant they want to avoid a vtuber getting harrassed again. I mentioned gachikois because if she apologized for this, they would join the harrassement. Remember the joint statement? Cover definitely is taking a stance against that and might want to prevent it from happening in the first place by giving them an apology that would make them think they are right?
>Her absence was announced 30 minutes before the stream
And they probably did not announce she wouldn't be there as soon as they got the message. Who knows when they were first notified she wouldn't be there. Could have been hours before.
>they don't just show up the the studio and go live. They record some bits, go over the script and then start the stream.
Except she had already recorded the concert part of the stream, which I assume are the first things done in advance considering they must be the most time consuming (and the fact it's the only part where she shows up.) The incident could have happened for recording other bits of that stream.
>It must also be a total coincidence she happened to be playing valorant all night before that stream.
Her comeback stream did talk about playing Valorant as a cope so it's not like she denies it, it could have been that (and I do agree I'm reaching really hard with this point, but even so).

>> No.44065822

>>44015874
I'm not Japanese so I can say the truth as much as I want outside of this shithole including on 5ch with a VPN and there's nothing she can fucking do about it.

>> No.44065897
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44065897

>>44016529
>The sense of entitlement is actually insane. Instead of trying to calm the waters down, focusing on her fans, say "I'm sorry" to them (because her fans deserve it) she just focuses on people shitting on her.
It's called Mori Calliope syndrome.

>> No.44065928

>>44014305
I'll have my lawyer get back to you

>> No.44067571

Realising these threads are being kept running by one, maybe two schizos is what made me stop actually believing anything I read about La+ on here
Was that your intention?

>> No.44067594

>>44065723
Look I'm not going to waste my time to dig up shit that everyone who actually followed this shit already knows when you're just here to shit on the evil idol cumture incels.

>> No.44067817

>>44067594
So as someone who actually follows this, you have not saved a single picture, can't remember a date or keyword to search your browsing history for, a twitter profile to link, or anything else to show for anything?
I see...

>> No.44067843

>>44067571
Why do you need to believe anything? If you gave a shit about any of this you would already know what's true and what's not.

>> No.44068074

>>44067843
If you didn't care about people believing you or not, you wouldn't make/post in these threads daily

>> No.44068154

>>44067594
Post receipts or fuck off

>> No.44068233 [DELETED] 

>>44067817
Her roommate that she had cover for her is ayase_uni_ on twitter.
That's all you'll get because I am not going to spend an hour checking the dates and digging for things you could find yourself if you actually cared about finding out what happened.

>>44068154
>Post receipts or fuck off
You're just here to argue and don't care about the truth.

>> No.44068395

>>44068233
>You're just here to argue and don't care about the truth.
How can you actually say that when youre so hesitant to post any of your "truths"
You're a fucking maroon

>> No.44068553

>>44068395
You don't even know what happened on streams that are still on her own channel. You are not worth proving anything to when you don't actually care.

>> No.44068665

>>44068553
Neither does 99.9% of this board, yet you still post in these threads daily
Makes you think, eh?

>> No.44069051

>>44014305

Moments like these are proof image boards are the most powerful social media.

>> No.44069737

Did the retard get himself banned

>> No.44069921

>>44069737
Which one?

>> No.44070014

>>44069921
The usual schizo

>> No.44070061

>"POST LE RECEIPTS!!!!"
>spams report on any post with any potential proof that he begged so hard for
So that was your goal all along
Note to the retarded janitor, Ayase was her literal roommate living with her and she's a vtuber.

>> No.44070219

>>44070061
Actually someone else joined in, seeing what happened to your post I'm not going to say much other than I found exactly what I was looking for, receipts.

>> No.44070336

>>44070061
Why would you admit to ban evading?

>> No.44070459

>>44070336
How am I ban evading when it's just a retarded janitor that deleted my post?

>> No.44070793

>>44070459
Because they usually ban people when they delete posts? Retard

>> No.44071068

>>44070793
Janitors can't ban you fucking brain dead newfag.

>> No.44071251

>>44071068
Isn't the reason that you're so terrified of actually posting receipts that ban evading is a lot of work?

>> No.44072083

>>44071251
The reason you beg for "receipts" is so that you can spam report anything you don't like.

>> No.44072443

Why are cuckfami in a Laplus thread again?

>> No.44072450

>>44072083
Only because you're talking about off topic stuff
Evidently the Jannie's agree with me
The only reason you're entertaining this argument is that your hobby is arguing on 4chan. Kek

>> No.44072761

>>44072443
There's not a single mention of that VTuber in this thread. What the fuck are you on about?

>> No.44072765

>>44072450
You are begging for people to talk about this supposed off-topic stuff.

>> No.44072901

>>44072765
They're free to ban me if I break a rule or just delete my posts. Isn't that fair?
Seems like you're the only person actually breaking rules though

>> No.44072975

>>44072761
That's exactly why I'm asking. This bait for bannable posts is what you faggots always do. I don't get why you're doing it in a Laplus thread.

>> No.44073065

>>44072975
Well I don't watch that VTuber, so take your bogeyman elsewhere

>> No.44073137

>>44072901

>> No.44073251

>>44072901
You're the one begging and baiting for this allegedly rule breaking content.

>> No.44073468

>>44073251
It's not alleged if you actually got your post deleted
Besides if you apparently didn't get banned, why are you seething for over half an hour afterwards

>> No.44074132

>>44073468
Whims of a retarded janitor don't make something rule breaking or not. I didn't post anything rule breaking.
You beg for others to break rules because you have no arguments.

>> No.44074263

>>44014305
No it should have been Koyori and Iroha to get half and half of all the shit Cover gave to Laplus.

>> No.44076578

>>44054994
anyone bothered by Laplus's "roommate" stuff should be equally bothered by Noel, if not more, and yet you rarely ever see that.

>> No.44076726

>>44054994
>>44040320
I know you retards probably don't understand professionalism, but she might hold her Hololive streams to a higher standard than her roommate streams.

>> No.44076942

>>44076726
>she might hold her Hololive streams to a higher standard
lol no

>> No.44076980

>>44014323
fibby pibby

>> No.44079113

>>44076726
now I want to find out what a low effort stream is like

>> No.44079179

>>44076578
Noel streams both as Noel and as her rm, actually dedicates a lot of time to both, doesn’t lie to her fans, actually loves hololive and bonded with a lot of holomems to the point she’s one of the members who shows up the most as a guest in lives despite her singing not being good, she even let other holomems use her ASMR set up at her home, she’s not using hololive to meet e-celebs and she hasn’t any rule as of now (streaming lewd ASMR is not something bad for the japanese). Also Noel and the rm’s content is so different it doesn’t really collide.
Having said that, why should anyone be “ equally bothered by Noel”.

>> No.44079216

>>44079113
The jump king’s stream is a pretty good example I would say.

>> No.44079228 [DELETED] 

>>44076578
Why should people be bothered with Noel? Noel doesn't have a boyfriend, she has never used her Hololive fame to hang out with the filthy male streamers either.
>b...but she fucked a dildo!
So what? So fucking what? Have you never masturbated once in your life?

>> No.44079234

you don't know enough japanese to justify having a reason to dislike her in the first place, similar to the ayame hate threads it's just N99s at best larping

>> No.44079464

>>44017070
Everyone can tell what posts are made by which IPs on 2ch?

>> No.44079510

>>44079464
No, she was found out because she leaked her IP on stream and people search for it on 5ch.

>> No.44079792

>>44079510
Huh, I thought it was anon, unless some jannies outed it.

>> No.44080955

>>44017458
old cope

>> No.44083223 [DELETED] 

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>> No.44083325

>>44020314
Hey, don't bring aki into this!

>> No.44083675

>>44079179
Jp did feel bothered by Noel and she had a hard time at first. She managed to get over it with consistency and generally being entertaining. If La+ want to follow suite, she has to work on consistency by streaming more and streaming with a regular schedule.
Also, I agree with the separation of content argument. (last I checked) Noel stopped activity on her RM's 2nd/lets play channel and all game related content is done on Noel ch. La+ yab was precisely because she does the exact same thing on both La+ and RM accounts.

>> No.44083764

>>44014305
Actual hololive fans never hated on her. Just antis, shitposters and tribalfags.

>> No.44084097

>>44014305
of course, shes my daughter after all

>> No.44084237

>>44014305
literally did nothing wrong

>> No.44084380

>>44083764
Is that why she went from 10k CCV to 5k?

>> No.44084649

>>44084380
1. Not everyone who stops watching hates on her. Her gimmick got stale and her content worse.
2. Former viewers now hating on her are antis, which I included in my post.

>> No.44084776

>>44084380
Are you actually trying to reason with it?

>> No.44086837

>>44079179
>doesn't lie to her fans
neither does Laplus.

>>44079179
>>44079228
no, it's because the argument you always see in these threads is "tried to channel people to her roommate", which, by the same standard, Noel has also done.

>> No.44087185

>>44014305
Who?

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