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Orange woman has made it.

>from the most disliked
to
>queen of holoEn
>queen of holoJP
>everybody wants to be in her harem
>even destoyed the holo/niji divide

>> No.43896310

kiwawa supremacy

>> No.43896370
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GOTT ERHALTE
GOTT BESCHUTZE

>> No.43896383

Kanata is a natural submissive to an Orange woman. Wawa went through a lot of shit in order to replace Kaichou. Kaichou was the bridge, and now Kiara is it.

>> No.43896407

>>43896121
Nah

>> No.43896489

>>43896383
Tenchou to Kaichou
KFP is now just a cover for her less ethical business

>> No.43896598

>>43896121
>Orange woman has made it
But she has yet to destroy the hololive/holostars divide
She hasn't made it far enough

>> No.43896719

>>43896598
not her goal. and that's okay.
what you're talking about is pink woman/clock woman/rat woman's goal.

>> No.43897735

>>43896121
Did she speaked in Japanese in her hologra debut?

>> No.43898133

>>43896121
Dont be delusional

>> No.43898461

>>43896121
Not really, or at all, true but I would rather say I love her than be associated to eggschizos.

>> No.43898505

>>43897735
Maybe you should learn to speaked English before posting

>> No.43898549

>>43896489
Same as it ever was.

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>>43896121

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>>43896121

>> No.43900168 [DELETED] 

>>43896121
She has the lowest numbers in her gen, the queen of HoloEN is gura by far KFNIGGER (you) and your oshi are pathetic

>> No.43900287

>>43896121
>destoyed the holo/niji divide
That's terrible.

>> No.43900310

>>43900168
if we're going by the metric of
>
>
>
then mcdonalds is clearly the best restaurant ever on earth

>> No.43900328

>>43900168
Can't speak Japanese
can't even stream

>> No.43900399

>>43899700
>most dedicated fanbase too
sasuga

>> No.43900414

>>43896121
cool, I hope those vtubers watch her because I'm not

>> No.43900440

>>43896121
also
>will have most superchatted 3D

>> No.43900500

>>43896121
Orange woman good.

>> No.43900600

>>43900168
At least she gets numbers unlike Gura, who doesn't stream

>> No.43900729

>>43900168
>She has the lowest numbers in her gen
Not anymore, outdatechama

>> No.43901306

>>43900440
I will never understand the superchat cope kfpiss and cuckbeats are obsessed with. Obviously it has nothing to do with popularity and when it comes to income it's mogged by merch sales and sponsorships/collabs. And of course there's the fact it's the one source of income where the girls get the small cut compared to what YouTube and Cover take from it.
>but muh loyalty
Low superchat numbers for the other ENs unironically feel like a better sign of loyalty considering how many of them have gone out of their way to discourage superchat donations and encourage buying merch instead.

>> No.43901378

>>43899700
SHITna doesn't deserve those numbers.
A vtuber who ghosts her fans for 3 months doesn't deserve fans

>> No.43901439

>>43899700
>mogged by ID1's 3D showcases
Guess EN really is dead.

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But why hasn’t that Japanese comedian referred to her while he raves over Gura?
It’s mistreating of her by Japanese society or even betrayal. She’s the best speaker of Japanese but they didn’t nominate her as the Tokyo ambassador. Fear the retribution of the phoenix!

>> No.43901500

>>43901378
she was busy with roommate work. holo is a sidegig and you don't even have to search far to find that.
ina keeps her fans at a safe distance and that's why she's successful. nobody is expecting more.

>> No.43901525

>>43901306
Okay. Kiara discourages gifting memberships until the end of a superchat reading. You also act like Mori and Kiara don't do sponsorships/collabs and don't sell merch, when they do. SC's are just a plus. Mori and Kiara have the highest VOD views monthly so it doesn't even matter.

>> No.43901551

>>43901439
EN had Amelia's house arc, Holo ID didn't. These relays simply weren't as welcomed as normal reveals are because there's nothing to reveal anymore.

>> No.43901671

>>43899700
the superchat readings will never end and the tagents are going to be full of tagents

>> No.43901696

>>43896121
roru. romaou, even.

>> No.43901749

>>43896121
I'm going to kill her if she seduces my oshi. I will not be made a cuckold.

>> No.43901826

>>43901525
Obviously they still sell merch retard the point is you fags always shitpost about Kiara and Mori mogging Gura superchats. The reality is Gura mogs them hard with her top selling merch and huge sponsorships. If superchat with YouTube/Cover cut and generic gacha collabs are your idea of a win you can keep it.

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>>43901749
>you oshi
Who?
It’s obvious that some of Kobo’s streams were aired out of mama Kiwawa’s bed while Wawa was groping the daughter’s tiny thighs.

>> No.43902349

>>43901826
>brings gura when no one mentioned it
>comparing gura to any vtuber
This is how you spot an idiot
Gura is so much an anomaly it can't be compared even with the biggest JP vtubers like Pekora,Miko and Marine

>> No.43902665

>>43901976
Flare. If that chicken slut comes anywhere near my brown half-elf goddess I'll shove a spit out her ass and roast her over a fire.

>> No.43902782

Kiara isn't even the Kiara of her gen anymore

>> No.43902785

>>43902349
>hahahaha Gura mogged Mori/Kiara superchats too strong
>noooooooooo you can't compare Gura to them stop it AIEEEEEEEEE
Why are shitkenfags and kekbeats like this?

>> No.43903009

>>43902785
no one said that though, the only one talking about Gura is you

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>>43902665
>flare
So what do you think about Noel? Their intimacy has been mentioned again and again. And it seems Noel is a serious gay while Kiara’s Yuri moves are basically bait.

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>>43896121
This is what happens when you're naturally stubborn, suffered from shit jobs throughout your life, then somehow nail your dream job but stay pushed down to the bottom so you have to claw your way up.
She's a hard worker and doesn't give up. Even if someone doesn't get along with her, they'll respect that more over time.

>> No.43903698

>>43903009
I'll point it out for you since you're a colossal fucking retard.
>OP claiming Kiara is Queen of EN
>>43900399
Same thing here and of course
>>43900600
This fag. This doesn't actually matter because I don't need an excuse to shit on kfpniggers and deadbraps like you but I'll give one anyway since you seem to care so much about why I brought up Gura "out of nowhere"

>> No.43903887

>>43903698
>>>number bigger = betterer

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>> No.43904403

>>43903887
Yes unironically. Gura is the only EN who has the charisma needed to be a successful Holo simple as. Tens of thousands of people despite months of no streams. Infinitely more loved by JP, the largest vtuber fanbase, compared to every other EN even karrichan kakkoii. The other ENs simply don't have that kind of charisma and pull the numbers can't lie.

>> No.43904668

Chumbuds thinking numbers makes the queen are sorely mistaken. Numbers are nice but they aren't some determinate factor.
Every JP and ID member goes out of their way to praise Wawa and why? because she reaches out to them. She is actively talking with these people behind the scenes.
The best they can muster for Gura is "cute"
Everyone likes a team player and Kiara is very much that. Like the autism rabbit, Gura soloing is not leadership, even if she draws in 3-4 times the numbers a stream.
Leadership makes the queen. That was once Ame's role, but in recent months the queen is Kiara now and no amount of seething is going to change that.

>> No.43904850

>>43896121
>even destoyed the holo/niji divide
That was the blue homo.
>but kiara said-
She says a lot of untruthful shit, not maliciously (probablyl) but she says a lot of shit that ends up being half truths or outright wrong and basically throughs others under the bus like what she's done to mori or the Axel band end night collab.

>> No.43904901

>>43896489
>now

>> No.43904975

>>43899700
Ina's showcase was so boring. Tacucks have literally no standards.

>> No.43904997

>>43904668
>Leadership makes the queen. That was once Ame's role, but in recent months the queen is Kiara now and no amount of seething is going to change that.
I don't see Kiara putting weeks worth worth of work into arranging the big full-gen projects every anniversary season and loads of UNITY stuff in general because Cover won't.

>> No.43905132

didn't like her because of her political SJW stuff. but she been able to hold that back on stream, actually like Hololive, pursue real friendship over work-friend relationship, even reach out to Niji. only one to visit all 3 branch JP, ID, EN in person. try hard as fuck as vtuber, think up unconventional streams, set up collabs with all three branch, understand idol culture because her history. She earn my respect for her dedication if nothing else.

>> No.43905181

>>43896121
Orange Woman has made it from

>Worst Hololive member
to
>Second worst Hololive member after Chloe

>> No.43905233

>>43904997
Ame was queen for exactly that reason. They had no way into the Japan and were completely dependent on Ame. Japan is now open and so the priority of leadership now is who is the best bridge between EN and Japan. That's Kiara. Ame never wanted to be in charge. She's said it herself, it was incidental and crossed over into what she was interested in - 3D tech. Kiara likely was the one who had to wrangle the EN tards while Ame did the tech.

>> No.43905281

>>43901551
I fully agree. Kiara and Mori literally had concerts with their 3Ds already because Cover couldn't bother to give them actual debuts in a timely fashion.

>> No.43905301

>>43904668
>some of the JP members who interacted with her: creeped out
>Reine: creeped out
>HoloEN: creeped out

yass kween wawa slayyyyyy

>> No.43905324

>>43905301
ok, egg

>> No.43905390

>>43905324
>nobody likes wawa outside of the retarded KFP
>haha let's call any form of wawa criticism 'egg' that'll teach em

>> No.43905425

>>43905390
Be nice, it's all they have.

>> No.43905493

>>43904668
You can't be a leader unless you're successful. Gura is a leader because she shows how to succeed as a holo. It's other ENs who aren't following her approach that end up having issues. The one that primarily does is Fauna, and she's the second most successful EN (maybe contested with Ina).
And you're crazy if you think several JPs don't like Gura the most. We already have Okayu confirmed, and Pekora only invited one EN to her anniversary live who was Gura. There are several others who like her, but obviously can't get that close because of the language barrier, they can still admire and respect her though. And JP is a lot about respect, if you have talent/skills and respect their culture/environment they'll respect you.

>> No.43905533

>>43905233
So she's "the leader" right now because...she lived in Japan for a loooong time pursuing the idol thing and is pretty much fluent? Seems like an arbitrary reason to me.
Mind you, there have been a good few EN-JP off-collabs in the last couple months with this Japan arc that Kiara's had no hand in arranging, too.

>> No.43905568

>>43900310
McDonald's is great. have you ever had the McChicken sandwich? did you ever ask for extra sauce packets? did they ever call you 3 for free?

>> No.43905584

>>43904850
eigo jouzo

>> No.43905629

>>43905533
KFP are the ultimate schizo rrats

They believe everything is geared towards keeping kween wawa down and that she is the bestest VTuber ever in the history of V and Tubing and never does any wrong

>> No.43905720

what makes gura great, aside from her noombers and staying power? Is she really that charismatic? I dont actually know, im trying to educate myself

>> No.43905817

>>43905629
Don't lump yourself in with me, dude, you seem like an unironic egg, even to me.

>> No.43906110

>>43905629
...that being said, I'm not going to say that there isn't any merit to what you're saying, just that you're exaggerating it a tad.

>> No.43906151

>>43902665
HA HA HA HA HA HA

>> No.43906210

>>43896598
You're supposed to post this on Reddit.

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>>43905629
bro, Kiara is good.

that's all

>> No.43906891

As much as I dislike her personality and annoying voice, I have to admit that she DID make it.

>> No.43907001

>>43905301
No need to lie anon the vods are out there for everybody to see. Keep coping though it's really funny

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>>43905493
>Gura is a leader
The leader of lazy whores

>> No.43907079

>>43905493
>gura is a leader
>had a two week meltdown over not getting listened to in amongus
kek

>> No.43907182

>>43905493
Second most successful EN is a meme. Without Minecraft, Elden Ring, and big return buffs Fauna and Ina are mid 7k at best. Extremely meh compared to number 1 EN and even worse compared to JPs. EN is an embarrassment after the recline.

>> No.43907201

>>43905233
> the best bridge between EN and Japan. That's Kiara
Not even close

>> No.43907257

>>43907182
Why'd you mention fauna? Ame gets better numbers than her

>> No.43907369

>>43907038
stop using Lui to shitpost, anti-kun
>>43907079
you completely ignored the post, so it's obvious you don't care about arguing a point

>> No.43907372 [DELETED] 

>>43896121
you austistic cucks can only dream that your whore would even come close to even be one fraction as popular as gura kfpnigger go neck yourself you fucking faggot

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>>43905493
>Gura is a leader
OMOSHIROI PEKO

>> No.43907804

>>43907414
She is in the same vein that the JP senpai are leaders to Gura
The only difference is that Gura actually followed her senpai, but some ENs had other plans, not her fault, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink
Why do you think Pekora invited her to her live, because she can tell that Gura respects Hololive, she wouldn't invite someone she doesn't fully respect

>> No.43907821

Voice debuff

>> No.43907879

>>43907372
>falseflagging as a chumbud this hard
Holy shit anon calm down

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>>43907804
Please don't compare your lazy EN whore with actual relevant Jp holos, they're leagues apart. Thank you

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>>43907804
Okay I think I'm starting to understand why people hate chumbuds so much

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>>43907804
>The only difference is that Gura actually followed her senpai
Her senpais streams and care about their community. How are those streams going on for you ATMbud?

>> No.43908645

>>43908260
>>43908302
>>43908339
Dumbfucks, I basically only watch holoJP. Gura has simply earned my respect and appreciation, like she has with many holoJPs. Eat shit.

>> No.43909023

>>43908645
>only watch holoJP
>Respects the lazy whore of EN
Sure thing cuckbud
>like she has with many holoJPs
RUMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.43909080

>>43907201
Ok, the only alternative has been Bae. Ina could but that would be too much work.

>> No.43909105

>>43909023
Keep seething while I watch Gura sing and dance with Marine, Okayu, Shion, and Pekora

>> No.43909182

>>43909080
Bae can but she would shove homos down your throat

>> No.43909300

>>43908645
>Gura has simply earned my respect and appreciation
HOLY LOW STANDARDS

>> No.43909423

>>43909300
for EN streamers I don't expect that much, that's a given, but even then I barely watch them

>> No.43909533

>>43908645
>not a chumbud
>>43909105
>immediate chumbud reply
You dropped that act like a hot potato

>> No.43909549

For a bunch of people who constantly shit on JP and talk about how badly "mogged" they got by EN, you sure care a lot about their opinion.

>> No.43909571

>>43903160
are you like stuck in 2020 or something?

>> No.43909671

>>43909423
Anon you could've go with just low HoloEN standard but you choosed to go with Gura levels of low standard. Nice larp cuckbud but nobody believes you

>> No.43909719

>>43909533
I never said one way or another, but I respect all that follow the way of Holo

>> No.43909805

>>43909671
So Pekora has a low standard for picking Gura to perform with her? And the same with the other JPs? You have no objective facts to stand by. All you can point at is 'stream hours' because you have nothing else.

>> No.43909830

>>43909080
Bae, Mori, Ina
>Ina could but that would be too much work.
Kiara is literally the only person to complain about being used to bridge the gap.

>> No.43909922

>>43900168
Go back to your damage control nostream cuck

>> No.43909952

>>43902665
I strongly suggest you don't check flare's holotalk then.

>> No.43909987

>>43896121
Gura has finally been dethroned

>> No.43910028

>>43909805
All JPs have low standards. Why do you think they're all below EN?

>> No.43910112

>>43909987
She did that to herself and god do I thank her for that because now chumcucks are the laughingstock of the board

>> No.43910221

>>43910028
nice joke, wake me up when any of them get 42k ccv for a regular stream like pekora did yesterday

>> No.43910254

>>43910221
Are we now pretending that japs don't have shit taste?

>> No.43910302

>>43909805
Pekora has high standards for numbers. Gura could be a literal whore and Pekora would still invite her for the numbers.

>> No.43910319

>>43905493
gura is many things but leader she's not.
to be a leader you need to have leadership. you know, lead people. gura ghosts people asking for collabs out of sheer social anxiety. she is physically incapable of leadership.

>> No.43910328

>>43910254
it doesn't matter if you disagree with their taste dumbass, this is hololive and its success was built with their tastes and vision, maybe you should fuck off to twitch

>> No.43910404

>>43910302
Okay are you gonna use that argument for the other JP lives she was invited to? And everything else?

>> No.43910433

>>43896121
I know it's not her fault but I'll forever be bitter about being cucked out of a Kamen Rider holo

>> No.43910596

>>43910404
The other members you listed all have low standards.
okayu -> just look at her last live
shion -> barely streams like gura
marine -> collabs with everyone even Kiara

>> No.43910749

>>43910319
Above all, the leader needs one crucial thing, and that is vision. Gura has this, but really it's just the same vision that her senpai have for hololive.
Without it, you can't create a future, or worse, you could destroy it.

>>43910596
Why should I listen to what a loser on the internet thinks about taste over the most successful vtubers in the industry?

>> No.43911481

>>43910749
>Above all, the leader needs one crucial thing, and that is vision. Gura has this, but really it's just the same vision that her senpai have for hololive.
and that vision is to never stream again?
>Why should I listen to what a loser on the internet thinks about taste over the most successful vtubers in the industry?
I dont know. Why are you even asking me things, if you plan on dismissing everything I say anyways? Your response shows you cant actually rebut anything I said.

>> No.43911646

>>43910404
Marine only invited Gura for the numbers. She would have never got 160k CCV and 1M vod views without Gura.

>> No.43911754

>>43910749
the most successful vtubers in the industry
Who?
I like Gura but JPs are not most successful lol

>> No.43911780

>>43896121

>still is the least subbed
>that would be Gura
>lmao she's not Japanese even if she can speak it
>lmao no
>no she didn't
Falseflag or delusional KFP?

>> No.43911861

>>43911780
My money's on falseflag. KFP have their own split to praise Kiara in, aren't as pushy with their praise as the anons in here have been, and wouldn't go out into the catalog just to start shit like this. It's all to stir the shitpot, I says.

>> No.43911934

>>43911861
They wouldn't go into the catalog to do this but they absolutely will go into the catalog to call anyone they don't like an egg.

>> No.43911998

>>43910749
lmao vision is dime a dozen. ideas are dime a dozen.
all failures had a vision at one point.
vision is nothing without action.

>> No.43912029

>>43911934
Well, yes, that *is* true.

>> No.43912453

>>43911861
>My money's on falseflag
Well after more than 2 years of falseflag Kiara threads one might be inclined to believe this thread is indeed one of them.

>> No.43913059 [DELETED] 

>>43909830
First, Bae is the only one proactive to do that. I would love to see her and Kiara in that capacity more often, and Bae has been taking steps that way. Second, Kiara is not the same insecure new debut from 2023. She's not afraid to be called up because she's not under the oppressive numberfagging thumb of Jchad's management.

>> No.43913114

>>43909830
First, Bae is the only one proactive to do that. I would love to see her and Kiara in that capacity more often, and Bae has been taking steps that way. Second, Kiara is not the same insecure new debut from 2020. She's not afraid to be called up because she's not under the oppressive numberfagging thumb of Jchad's management.

>> No.43913340

>>43907257
pfff, not anymore

>> No.43913598

>>43909182
No shes doesnt, if you actually watch her she barely talks about holostars at all, she more supportive of them in twitter than anything else.

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>>43898549

>> No.43913819

>>43896383
I feel kind of bad for Kanata having basically no friends in hololive. Now the only person she's close to is someone who doesn't even live in Japan.

>> No.43914440

>>43911481
>muh streams
opinion disregarded for being only being able to parrot one thing with no interest in understanding anything further
>>43911646
someday when your balls drop you'll stop thinking being edgy and cynical is cool
>>43911754
>hololive isn't successful in vtubing
delusional or retarded, your choice
>>43911998
NPC opinion you probably heard somewhere on the internet, besides your opinion is invalidated by the fact that they're also extremely successful

>> No.43914669

>>43914440
Hololive is successful but it isn't because of JP. They'd be nothing without EN.

>> No.43914932

>>43914440
>NPC opinion you probably heard somewhere on the internet, besides your opinion is invalidated by the fact that they're also extremely successful
but personal success and leadership are not correlated

>> No.43915686

>>43914669
I'd say the reverse is more true. The JPs have serious talent and star power, they are undeniable entertainers in their own right.
>>43914932
Success means you're doing something right, why do you think people want to learn from the masters. Gura was wise to look to her senpai and wish to follow in their steps.

>> No.43917221

>>43913819
You do realize Kanata and Marine are really close right? Like they talk about each other constantly.

Also I'm pretty sure Kanata is quite friendly with a lot of members like Flare, Koyori, Haachama, Luna, Kiara, Chloe (? a lot of collabs lately), Iroha, Lamy, Aqua, Ayame, and probably more I'm forgetting.

The "Kanata has no friends" misconception probably comes from that stream where she told people not to call in.

>> No.43917631

>>43917221
She's also very close with Noel and pretty close with Okayu, Korone, Mio, Polka and Azki even, just off the top of my head.
And "really close" is still underselling it for Marine, they both keep saying that the other one is their closest friend, Marine says she always talks to Kanata first about anything, Kanata only feels comfortable talking to Marine about actual stuff she's struggling with and so on.

>> No.43917825

>>43896121
Kiara deserves another rape

>> No.43917824

>>43905493
Anon I like gura but she is so far removed from leader that I wouldn't be surprised if she just graduates this year just so she can take a year off and be the first hololive girl to come back after graduation

>> No.43918866

>>43917221
>>43917631
She's still closest to Kiara.

>> No.43919000

>>43918866
nah Kanata is defintely closest with Marine. Kanata and Kiara met not that long ago while Marine and Kanata have been really close friends for a while.

>> No.43919079

>>43896121
KFP is the most delusional fanbase on the board.

>> No.43919103

>>43915686
>The JPs have serious talent and star power, they are undeniable entertainers in their own right.
If you asked anyone about how they got to know about hololive the answer will always be through EN talents. That JP "star power" would be completely unkown without EN.

>> No.43919175

>>43919000
Kanata only met Coco not that long ago too and they were nearly married.

>> No.43919237

>>43896121
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING stands in the way of the Tenchou, the Chicken of Orange. Through sheer will she trascends obstacles while "Hahahahaha" and "Kikikerikii"ing her way through.

Simon, Kamina and the Spiral folks could take some notes from her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT6LFOIofRE

>> No.43919567

>>43919103
But people keep saying they got introduced through fbk scatman, migo gta, matsuri bandaid, were those all lies? And for the JP fans, do you seriously they got in through EN clips and not the countless ones of their talents?

>> No.43919693

>>43899700
>Mori viewership declining
>the "high SC revenue" cope doesn't work anymore
You love to see it.

>> No.43920586

>>43919567
Japanese people watch EN more than JP yes. Mori was the big icebreaker for the JP audience and now it's Kiara.

>> No.43920655

>>43919567
and korone's doom, dont forget that

>> No.43920828

>>43920586
Then why we dont have gura reaching 50-60k in lets say minecraft streams? yeah let alone mori and kiara' desu i think more jps like ina or mumei.

>> No.43921134

>>43920828
They watch VODs

>> No.43921680

>>43899700
>half the viewers of Ina
>twice the donations
>orange chicken lady has the most dedicated userbase
After years of being shit on, it's nice to see pay-off in the numbers. Gura will probably mog everyone, though. Chums are insane. Not to shit on Ina, but I suspect she got those ccvs by way of being first.

>> No.43922222

>>43921134
and how do you know how many of them watch vods and compare that with the ratio on the other 40 jp girls?

>> No.43922494

>>43921680
bacause she do red superchats and make tangets with them, with ina you have to say its your birthday or trhowing at least an orange superchat so she will read it outloud, because she do reads them all in her mind, like the joke red superchat she just irgonerd.

>> No.43922749

>>43922494
You're as ESL as ESL comes but I managed to decipher a good point out of your post.
It's also because for whatever reason, like with furries, despite their relatively wee tiny numbers compared to the rest, a lot of KFPs seem to have fat wallets for some reason or another.

>> No.43922807

>>43896121
Turns out all it takes is to be the only one in your brach to actually stream and not openly shit on your fans.

>> No.43922910

>>43896121
She was only disliked here, though.

>> No.43923383

>>43922222
Gura merch sells more than any JP holos IN JAPAN. Take whatever number you see on a top JP stream and double it. That's how many people like Gura in Japan.

>> No.43923389

>>43922807
Falseflagger falseflagger

>> No.43923413

>>43920586
>inside the mind of an ENshart

>> No.43924603

>>43923383
>Gura merch sells more than any JP holos IN JAPAN
proof?

>> No.43924606

>>43922910
>was
Not anymore. I'm pretty sure Mori has had that honor for quite a while now.

I wasn't here yesterday. Was there any backlash on Mori for not bringing on any Hololmems(barring genmates) in her 3d?

>> No.43924613

>>43921680
>superchats
Kfpiss cope. That's the only number that somehow manages to be less important than subscribers. At least subscribers looks good for braindead investors and businesses who just see big number instead of dead subs. Superchats doesn't do shit and isn't even a strong source of holo income.

>> No.43924916

>>43924603
here >>43921685

>> No.43925114

>>43924613
>money = bad ???
Yeah, okay, pal. Superchats are one of the three ways Cover makes money. 1. SCs/membership 2. Crossovers with the talent (Taco Bell x Gura, Miko/Luna x Asphalt 9) 3. Merch sales. I highly doubt Cover is going to share their records any time soon, so supas are the best metric we have for which girl is a breadwinner. Subscriber count is all but useless. Is this not common knowledge?

>inb4 kfp cope

>> No.43925532

>>43924916
how's that proof?

>> No.43925538

>>43925114
MORI CALLIOPE holoMeet T-Shirt - S 28 $40.00 $1,120.00
MORI CALLIOPE holoMeet T-Shirt - M 116 $40.00 $4,640.00
MORI CALLIOPE holoMeet T-Shirt - L 171 $40.00 $6,840.00
MORI CALLIOPE holoMeet T-Shirt - XL 140 $40.00 $5,600.00
MORI CALLIOPE holoMeet T-Shirt - XXL 85 $40.00 $3,400.00
MORI CALLIOPE holoMeet T-Shirt - 3XL 51 $42.00 $2,142.00
$23,742.00
TAKANASHI KIARA holoMeet T-Shirt - S 31 $40.00 $1,240.00
TAKANASHI KIARA holoMeet T-Shirt - M 69 $40.00 $2,760.00
TAKANASHI KIARA holoMeet T-Shirt - L 84 $40.00 $3,360.00
TAKANASHI KIARA holoMeet T-Shirt - XL 61 $40.00 $2,440.00
TAKANASHI KIARA holoMeet T-Shirt - XXL 23 $40.00 $920.00
TAKANASHI KIARA holoMeet T-Shirt - 3XL 22 $42.00 $924.00
$11,644.00
NINOMAE INA'NIS holoMeet T-Shirt - S 54 $40.00 $2,160.00
NINOMAE INA'NIS holoMeet T-Shirt - M 162 $40.00 $6,480.00
NINOMAE INA'NIS holoMeet T-Shirt - L 236 $40.00 $9,440.00
NINOMAE INA'NIS holoMeet T-Shirt - XL 167 $40.00 $6,680.00
NINOMAE INA'NIS holoMeet T-Shirt - XXL 82 $40.00 $3,280.00
NINOMAE INA'NIS holoMeet T-Shirt - 3XL 61 $42.00 $2,562.00
$30,602.00
GAWR GURA holoMeet T-Shirt - S 39 $40.00 $1,560.00
GAWR GURA holoMeet T-Shirt - M 129 $40.00 $5,160.00
GAWR GURA holoMeet T-Shirt - L 151 $40.00 $6,040.00
GAWR GURA holoMeet T-Shirt - XL 128 $40.00 $5,120.00
GAWR GURA holoMeet T-Shirt - XXL 71 $40.00 $2,840.00
GAWR GURA holoMeet T-Shirt - 3XL 43 $42.00 $1,806.00
$22,526.00
WATSON AMELIA holoMeet T-Shirt - S 33 $40.00 $1,320.00
WATSON AMELIA holoMeet T-Shirt - M 77 $40.00 $3,080.00
WATSON AMELIA holoMeet T-Shirt - L 107 $40.00 $4,280.00
WATSON AMELIA holoMeet T-Shirt - XL 77 $40.00 $3,080.00
WATSON AMELIA holoMeet T-Shirt - XXL 39 $40.00 $1,560.00
WATSON AMELIA holoMeet T-Shirt - 3XL 21 $42.00 $882.00
$14,202.00

GAWR GURA OTAKU LAMP (HOLOLIVE PRODUCTION) 319 $35.00 $11,165.00
NINOMAE INA'NIS OTAKU LAMP (HOLOLIVE PRODUCTION) 216 $35.00 $7,560.00
WATSON AMELIA OTAKU LAMP (HOLOLIVE PRODUCTION) 178 $35.00 $6,230.00
MORI CALLIOPE OTAKU LAMP (HOLOLIVE PRODUCTION) 134 $35.00 $4,690.00
TAKANASHI KIARA OTAKU LAMP (HOLOLIVE PRODUCTION) 71 $35.00 $2,485.00

>> No.43925608

>>43925532
How is it not?

>> No.43927194

>>43899700
Teamate tears are going to be flowing when Ame has the lowest view. Collabs with males have consequences.

>> No.43927323

>>43925608
where's the proof of her outselling everyone in holos?

>> No.43927496

>>43925114
Here
>>43925538
Even if you ignore the fact merch and collaborations make a lot more money in comparison superchats are just a bad way of supporting your oshi. Because of the double YouTube/Cover cut most of the money you just donated just went into a business instead of the girl you are trying to support. For merch that isn't the case instead the girls are actually getting the bigger cut. So on top of merch making a shit ton more money the girls are making even more money thanks to YouTube not taking a chunk.

>> No.43927590

>>43927496
I agree with you. Superchats give a bit of status though. I'm sure most if not all the girls feel good about big superchat numbers.

>> No.43927628

>>43915686
goddamn you're incredibly retarded.
none of that is "leadership". it's literally the opposite. she is FOLLOWING the leadership of JP.

>> No.43927754

>>43925538
where'd you get those numbers anyways? I didn't know they released merch sales figures.

>> No.43928082

>>43927590
>I'm sure most if not all the girls feel good about big superchat numbers
Unironically the opposite, at least for Gura/Ina/Ame. They have all went out of their way to lower superchat donations and increase merch sales in the past.

>> No.43928200

>>43921680
You might be surprised to find this out but superchats don't improve your cam score on youtube.

>> No.43928210

>>43927496
>thanks to YouTube not taking a chunk.
I've been thinking for a while, I would love if Cover were to make their own streaming site for its talents. I know the cost/maintenance would be ridiculously expensive and they would lose untold numbers of normies during the migration, but it would be so much better. They wouldn't have to worry about Youtube's fickle attitude/algorithm (Kiara getting deleted) and they would be able to cut out the middle-man. I know it would never happen, but I would definitely prefer it.

>> No.43928271

>>43927754

>>36787423
>>41164388

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>>43899700
>twice the viewers
>half the money
"Ina gets botted" narrative makes more sense every day. Her sub growth also has weird spikes while others don't.

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43928602

>>43925538
>cuckbeats and takofags are morbidly obese

>> No.43928780

>>43911934
egg

>> No.43928800

>>43925538
Oh no...anyway we already knew Kiwawa is the least popular Myth member.

>> No.43928811

>>43925538
Wait what Ame is 3rd???? I did not know this im a chumbud

>> No.43928940

>>43928811
Bro in what headspace did you grow yo not know that.

But 6 to 10 thousand is a lot less than I was expecting

>> No.43929045

>>43919103
stop projecting your own experience newfag

>> No.43929214

>>43928312
>barely engages with fans
>never interacts with them on an individual level
>never does gfe or encourage goslings
gee, I wonder why she has less paypigs than Kiara...

>> No.43929424

>>43928312
>2nd biggest Myth has 2nd biggest 3d showcase
>straight up just tells her fans to not donate superchats, gets low superchat numbers
>runt of Myth has the runt 3d showcase
I don't know seems pretty normal to me. If anything the numbers across the board are just extremely disappointing for everyone in these showcases so far.

>> No.43929497

>>43924613
Superchats are an indicator of how much money the audience is willing to pay the streamer. This can be extrapolated to merch and other shit

>> No.43929526

>>43928312
she doesn't read, much less pay attention to, superchats. the average retard that pays for superchats won't send Ina money because they don't get the satisfaction of having their name said out loud 3 hours into a superchat reading stream.

>> No.43929579

>>43929497
Not true. See >>43925538

>> No.43929594

>>43929214
>>43929424
>>43929526
>The avarage takofag is too enlightened to superchat
>Now watch as we pay for a stupid billboard and piss her off because she doesn't want it
ogey

>> No.43929610

>>43929497
I've spent over $2k on merch and have not sent a single superchat

>> No.43930022

>>43927323
You don't see other holos in the top of the rankings now do you?

>> No.43930026

>>43929579
Am I supposed to believe some random numbers some guy typed out in a 4chan post?

>>43929610
Good for you

>> No.43930106

>literally Reine'a cocksleeve
>I do mean literally. Reine is such an alpha bitch, her clit is larger than your dick
>gets along with the other IDs because Reine will not tolerate her harem girls fighting each other
>still the chicken voice
>still the worst numbers in all of EN
>her only hope is to be like Anya, underperforming streamer kept afloat by sucking Reine'a dickclit
>was ghosted by everyone during the Rust arc
>Japs are just too polite to reject her face to face
>an embarrassment every time she appears on the main Holo channel
The only thing she made was Reine's bed during their vacation.

>> No.43930161

>>43929594
I don't even watch Ina faggot. I actually think she's one of the worst in EN, including the Council flops, but at the end of the day she's #2 in CCV and the showcases so far are reflecting that.

>> No.43930260

>>43927194
>thread is about kiara
>talking about ame
holy rent free

>> No.43930330

>>43930106
vt has the best shizos. I like this one.

>> No.43930340
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43930340

>>43930106
>Worst numbers in EN
RORU
RUMAO

>> No.43930365

>>43930022
so she got to 6th place at that time once and that's it?

>> No.43931586

>>43930365
Gura is currently first place

>> No.43931632
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43931632

>>43899700

>> No.43932000
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43932000

>>43924613
>New Deadbeetus cope
Mad that the Bloated Brapper Queen of Deadsubs can’t use Superchats as a metric anymore?
She’ll always have the highest BMI.

>> No.43932077

OP is clearly a falseflag, how does this have 200 posts

>> No.43932262

>>43932000
I wonder what cope they'll use in six months because all her metrics are crashing significantly faster than the other ENs. Superchats was their last refuge a few months ago. My guess is that they'll cope about how good February was for the next year. But it doesn't even count because Gura collab, a coomer outfit reveal and her 3D showcase significantly boosted her average nbumbers. And the outfit reveal lost to some ID outfit reveals.

>> No.43932392

>>43932000
What? Mori has runt numbers now and has the second highest superchat numbers, which are useless anyways, so she's just a runt like the shitken.

>> No.43932474

>>43932392
I don't know how anyone calls Mori or Kiara a runt when they are first and second in monthly views.

>> No.43932538

>>43932474
Only because they stream 10x as much
Look at the average views on their VODs

>> No.43932570

>>43927628
That's how it works, the student becomes the master.

>> No.43932603

>>43932077
Every kiara catalog thread is like this, actually it goes for 300+ sometimes

>> No.43932664

>>43932538
Yea but from a company's point of view shouldn't total views and superchats/memberships be your priority ?

>> No.43932687

>>43904403
Gura has the personality of a retarded lap dog
Her popularity is nothing more than "haha shark gurl"
There is nothing special about her
Shes been the most popular from second one through nothing but looks because thousands of toddlers on Ipads liked her videos

>> No.43932692

>>43932538
So their doing their job.

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>>43932077
>>43932603
This was the first ever non-meido post on /vt/.

>> No.43932781

>>43932687
big "why am I still getting 2 views" energy from this one

>> No.43932899

>>43932664
From Cover's point of view 95% of what they care about is sub count. Look at every single time they advertised themselves or released reports for investors etc.

For your sake though total views is kinda meaningless. If someone streams 10 times with 5 views each then it would be more total views than someone who streams once with 40 views. Yet you'd obviously say the latter is the more popular streamer.
VOD views after 24 hours are probably your best bet to numberfag with if you want to do that as they'll make sure you don't have a JP bias, since ccv is heavily skewed for them due to 99% of their fans all living in the same single time zone, whereas ENs have fans all over the world and many people can't watch live.

>> No.43932969

>>43932781
nigga she had like half a million subs before her first stream
shes fucking vtuber spongebob

>> No.43932970

Why do you retards care about the numbers? Stop obsessing over whether other people enjoy their content and talk about what things you think are enjoyable or not.

>> No.43933062

505k for hologra after 22 hours but only 275k for her 3D showcase after over 2 days? A lot of views on her 3D showcase tweet and anime but it doesn't seem like they watched the actual 3D showcase. That seems really odd.

>> No.43933147

>>43933062
Why would you compare hologra to anything else, that doesn't even make sense - it's completely its own thing

>> No.43933263

>>43932969
but I hate spongebob and hologra

>> No.43933362

>>43933263
Congrats you are the vtuber equivalent of a brony

>> No.43933370

>>43902665
You know how much Flare's interested in Kiara's Teutonic heritage, right? She had the whole German lesson with Kiara and loves to sing a German song.

>> No.43933661

>>43933362
I'm glad I don't get the schizo reasoning behind this analogy

>> No.43934359

>>43896598
look at this cuck kek

>> No.43937358

>>43896310
Next Stop
world domination

>> No.43939796

>>43933370
>the black elf is a white supremacist
We should cancel her. We cannot allow racism to thrieve in Hololive.
Kiara and Flare must publically apologise and have sex with black trans women before we can even consider to maybe forgive them for their transgressions.

>> No.43939977

>>43928271
Where did that anon get it from? I can also make up some random excel file. Wait... is it that easy to make up shit on this board?

>> No.43941670

I don't like this runt

>> No.43942214

>>43896121
The lesson is: never give a shit about /vt/ opinions.

>> No.43942382

>>43939977
They just track stocks when the merch drops and compares them with the value at time of posting.

>> No.43943751

At this point it's difficult to tell what's a falseflag and what's legitimately KFP getting a bit big for their britches.

>> No.43945981

>>43896121
>Orange woman has made it.
congrats

>> No.43946643

>>43896121
t. KFP Employee#69 Apostle of the Round Table Manager

>> No.43948628

>>43899700
Kiara's 3d was so bizarre. Nene and Subaru's dancing were too good. That was not them.

>> No.43948857

>>43904403
Gura is no idol. Kiara has a far better understanding of idol culture. Gura just appeals to normies, pedos, and children.

>> No.43949106

>>43905493
The JP girls just want some of her numbers. The only thing they respect is the money she makes. Pekora's anniversary was so corporate and calculated, of course Gura was going to be there.

>> No.43949433

>>43948628
Why do you think an actual idol wouldn't be able to dance?

>> No.43949453

>>43948857
>>43949106
Translation:
>I LITERALLY CANNOT STOP SEETHING ABOUT A GOOMBA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA KIWAWA QUEEN OF EN EVERYBODY MUST KNEEEEEEEL
Neither of the anons you replied to, nor am I anywhere close to being a chumbawumba, but good grief.

>> No.43949475

>>43948628
THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NENE AND SUBARU ARE GREAT DANCERS

>> No.43949663

>>43949475
Eh. Go watch again.

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