[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers


View post   

File: 746 KB, 1080x1080, 0rrxlkxuy3581.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43803751 No.43803751 [Reply] [Original]

I miss her old outfit so much. Why bros...why did she have to change. It was literally perfect. From unique to literally the most generic "idol girl" outfit you can imagine. Even Lack was upset.

>> No.43803809

Original had Chinese theming and after the big bug-out Flare became so disgusted by chinks that she couldn't bear to ever wear that outfit ever again. Which is a shame because the exposed leg may have been the single sexiest thing in all of Hololive besides Mio.

>> No.43804150
File: 168 KB, 788x1113, 1667600429241.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43804150

I miss Nene's old one too.

>> No.43804162

>>43803751
>Even Lack was upset.
When was this?

>> No.43804241
File: 3.74 MB, 2332x1500, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43804241

>>43803751
I know I'm basic as fuck, but I like picrel the most of hers. Especially with the hair with the loose twintails at the back.

>> No.43804247
File: 120 KB, 246x246, 1676628699718677.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43804247

>>43804150
this
all the chinese outfits had to be de-chinkafied

>> No.43804405
File: 231 KB, 1110x898, match 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43804405

>>43803751
those outfit will never return

>> No.43804433

>>43803751
She wants to be cute not cool

>> No.43804728

>>43804433
A loli model will fix that right up

>> No.43804790

>>43804405
wait shions outfit got canned too????

>> No.43804812

>>43804241
Same. That to me is the perfect version of Flare.

>> No.43804825

>>43804433
>She wants to be cute not cool
She even said she doesn't want a bow and arrow weapon in HoloCure. It isn't rejecting China like retards believe, she rejects the whole ranger warrior archetype she was given.
Makes sense when you consider only she and Noel really fit with an rpg party aesthetic whatsoever. It isn't unified within her gen at all.

>> No.43804836

>>43804162
It wasn't. Lack was happy to redo it for her, as he talked about to Tamaki.

>> No.43804838

>>43803751
She insists on trying to be "cute" no matter how little the word fits her.

>> No.43804876

>>43804728
She also doesn't want to be a loli, she just wants to molest lolis

>> No.43804924
File: 187 KB, 2048x958, 1659139831538.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43804924

>>43804825
Kronii with never wear her default outfit again unless it's mandated by management.

>> No.43805235

>>43804924
Who else never wears their default outfit anymore?

>> No.43805273

>>43804924
I don't see the connection, Kronii hates her tits and that's all. Flare had deeper issues with the way her character was portrayed as being from the start which made her uncomfortable being someone she wasn't on stream.

>> No.43805313

>>43805273
That's basically the same with Kronii, unless you're thinking extra hoops are required.

>> No.43805370

>>43804924
I'm still waiting for the hair fix, wada

>> No.43805393
File: 1.58 MB, 1000x1414, 5c74529cebcfdc9e1de0fe364c14436d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43805393

>>43804150
It's sad because this outfit could be re used for some occasions, i wish Nene would do it

>> No.43805408

>>43805313
>That's basically the same with Kronii
Why can't introverted autists like Kronii have big tits though? Did she think she was supposed to be a sex goddess?
Kronii is part of a Council yes but that is waaaayyyy more broadly defined than being a bow and arrow wielding dark elf warrior straight out of a hentai.

>> No.43805414

>>43804876
>She also doesn't want to be a loli
Citation needed

>> No.43805483

>>43805408
Except Kronii is a concept that controls time, she's a lot more shoehorned than Flare if you're talking about background.

>> No.43805768

>>43805393
come back nene-chan..

>> No.43805893

>>43805483
>Except Kronii is a concept that controls time, she's a lot more shoehorned than Flare if you're talking about background.
She seems to like the whole egotistical "I'm perfect" character she plays though.

>> No.43805993

>>43804825
That’s so lame man
Her base design is so nice and being cute with a sexy design just makes you even cuter
For the people who liked Sana a lot of them weren’t attracted to her because her personality was just so wholesome despite the body

>> No.43806081

>>43805235
>Anyer..
Even after the 2.0 update

>> No.43806145

>>43803751
She hates Chinks because they are attacking her friends.

>> No.43806179

>>43806081
she doesn't want to be bonked for showing too much ero on stream

>> No.43806285

>>43806081
was there a pic of it?

>> No.43806567

>>43803751
This was genuinely the biggest hololive downgrade. Sure, there have been some shitty outfits here and there but those weren't straight up replacements for a pure sex outfit.

>> No.43806618

>>43803751
Cuz she hated her old outfit and asked for a change for a long time?

>> No.43806642

>>43804790
How can it be canned if she doesn't even stream anymore.

>> No.43806999

>>43803809
she hated it long before that though, she exclusively used her Pride of North Korea after getting it until she got her casual one

>> No.43807272

>>43805993
Sadly, she doesn't care. It effects everything she does too, she insists on trying to be cute when she sings resulting in two garbage original songs at this point, when her covers where she actually leans into the strength of her voice are both good and completely mog the cutesy shit she tries. It's sad, but it is what it is.

>> No.43807368

>japans obsession with being overly cute ruining another vtoobah
many such cases

>> No.43807377

>>43807272
She has good original songs in one of her lives from last year but they're not released yet for some reason.

>> No.43807390

>>43807377
Link?

>> No.43807529

>>43807390
https://youtu.be/twAfWd7qSWQ?t=2918

>> No.43807581

>>43805414
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8YTJ82w8G44
>I love loli, but only if I don't become one

>> No.43807619

>>43807272
and her best performances are from her karaoke streams. I love Flare but like you said, she aims to be something completely different when it comes to singing. It is what it is

>> No.43807646

>>43807619
>I love Flare
I do too, she's great. If I didn't I wouldn't give a shit about the singing debuff.

>> No.43807785

>>43805893
I like it, it's funny if you also take into account how autistic she is

>> No.43807862

>>43804825
they should give her a whip

>> No.43808017

>>43804150
>>43805393
I fell into the hole months after the switch, quickly Oshi'd Nenechi, yet somehow just can't imagine OG wife being MY brazen erogaki boke wife. She feels like a totally different person in 90% of the clips I've seen. Not nearly as fun. To paraphrase Polka: "Ah yes, back when Nene was seiso".
I think the experience helped her come out of her shell a lot and relax into a more genuine on-screen persona. Representing Chinese culture & the endless legion of rabid schizos that encompasses probably made her feel especially scrutinized & scared of acting un-idol-like.
IDK maybe it's all just subconscious image-association from that but I look at the old outfit and reflexively think "bland".

>> No.43808122

>>43804825
Bratty elf needs orc correction ##

>> No.43808193

>>43804825
Only one who didn't fit in the theme that well was Pekora who was only a bunny girl as far I can tell.
Everyone else was a well established adventurer class.

>> No.43808775

>>43807619
With kaibutsu cover like this one that quickly got lot of attention back when she released it, I really wonder why she insists on doing the high pitched singing for her original songs
https://youtu.be/u5r8B1fDB8g

>> No.43809137
File: 21 KB, 463x453, 1600819796752.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43809137

>>43804825
>She even said she doesn't want a bow and arrow weapon in HoloCure
Then, what kind of weapon she want?
Seriously, why this half-elf despised her heritage so much?

>> No.43809196

>>43803751
At least she found her other sock

>> No.43809247
File: 3 KB, 473x211, 30ixph0.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43809247

>>43809137
My immediate thought was pyromancy in the first place but someone in another thread implied she doesn't like that either.

>> No.43809388
File: 31 KB, 400x400, 1600913137245.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43809388

>>43809247
This fucking elf, i swear...
We need to correct her...

>> No.43809396

>>43804825
>It isn't unified within her gen at all.
3rd gen is Hololive Fantasy, not Hololive Hero party. It's one of the rare gen with a unifying theme. And she never said shit about holocure either.

>> No.43809433

>>43805235
Subaru?

>> No.43809491

>>43809388
TBPF that was my limpwristed attempt to find out if there's anything to it or if I just misunderstood. Cuz I'm hard pressed to believe she's actually THAT snitty.

>> No.43809650

I appreciate Flare because I know that unless she's in her "idol" outfit in 3D there's going to be some major titty bounce.

>> No.43809649

>>43808193
Pekora's design as a bunny girl is supposed to be a reference to the gadabout class from DQ3.

>> No.43809810

Flare's fucking weird because she's arguably the most womanly member in Hololive who gives off a mature vibe, but she wants to be seen as a cutesy uguu cutie who sings songs in a high pitched voice. She's really cool with her natural personality, but constantly tries not to be. I get that she's Japanese and it's be cute or die, but holy shit.

>> No.43809924
File: 87 KB, 212x259, 1642035362908.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43809924

>>43809810
It's gap moe, anon.
Just like when a tomboy try to act girly.

>> No.43810359

>>43809810
Without going too far into roomate shit, Flare is a stereotypical tall(for a japanese woman), cool beauty. In a romcom she'd be the cool girls that wear pants in her casual clothes and has girls crushing on her. I'm guessing she's taking the vtuber thing as a chance to be someone else.

>> No.43810404
File: 2.65 MB, 560x840, kaneko lumi cyberlive [sound=files.catbox.moe%2Fo5wbk4.ogg].webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43810404

i feel that pain
lumi went from unique and cute to just a vei clone

>> No.43810480
File: 123 KB, 250x340, e.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43810480

this is the new one...

>> No.43810546
File: 700 KB, 850x1204, 1B4EF9B9-434C-40B7-95D5-5C597B0D1656.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43810546

>paizuri hole
>garter belt
>TWO SOCKS
I guess I’m on the minority but I much prefer the 2.0, it’s so much more sex to me. Even feels like the legs got buffed also no forced asymmetrical design. But it really is such a shame that flare refuses to accept her cool side. She could be at atleast a Towa level of popularity if she embraced it

>> No.43811320

>>43808775
>I really wonder why she insists on doing the high pitched singing for her original songs
Probably roommate stuff

>> No.43812162
File: 1.16 MB, 1923x2167, wand gun.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43812162

>>43807581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrJqSEPITQs
Give her a decorated bo staff that shoots sparkly magical projectiles and call it a day.

>> No.43812478

>>43805235
Haachama

>> No.43812500

>>43807272
man her cover of kaibutsu was nuts, i wish she sang like that more.

>> No.43812593
File: 19 KB, 370x347, 1400306907110.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43812593

>>43812162
>Bows are a harmful elf stereotype
>Being good at wind Magic is not an elf stereotype though

>> No.43812652

>>43809924
Subaru unironically acts really girly though.

>> No.43812666

>>43812593
>wants a gun
>Marine uses guns

>> No.43813001

>>43807862
Combine Fire Magic + Melee Weapon. I'm not saying give her a Zeke style Heat Weapon but let her embrace the thermal melee path

>>43812162
Conclusion: Mage Rifle

>> No.43813786
File: 390 KB, 920x1792, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43813786

>>43804825
Giver her a spear

>> No.43813994

>>43804825
She literally had a bow in that anime teaser though.

>> No.43814072

>>43804405
God I fucking miss that Shion outfit so much.
Certainly better than that fucking travesty she got recently.

>> No.43814431

>>43810480
Damn, I'm so sorry. And I thought that she was good

>> No.43814476
File: 453 KB, 1350x3454, minicraft.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43814476

Iroha is just playing for the most streams Minecraft, and its getting annoying, is she running out of ideas?

>> No.43814814

>>43814476
Nothing wrong with that, anon. It's clear that her viewers enjoy it.

>> No.43815799

>>43804405
>>43814072
I've never seen that Shion's outfit. What happened to it?

>> No.43815824

>>43815799
made people cum too much

>> No.43817254

>>43809491
I'll bite. I watch all of Flare's long talk+SC vods and don't need translations.
For a couple of months now she has pushed the idea that she CAN use magic. The reason she isn't blasting spells all over the place is because she needs her spellbook, which is back in her hometown. She thinks her fire themed name fits someone focused on studying fire spells.
As for non-magic weapons: She welcomes literally everything except bows. She has no issue with bows themselves, it's the people who endlessly nags her to switch to bows while playing games that turns her off from using them. It started out with her not using them because they're often very difficult weapons to use. But over 3 years of drive-by "Hey ELF, use the bow instead!!" comments, backseating how she should be enjoying the game, has made bows an unappealing choice.

I wouldn't say Flare is "snitty", the problem is that EOP information about her is so scarce(or ancient), people fill in the blanks themselves and feel betrayed when it turns out they guessed wrong. Flare talks to her fans a lot, not even a percent of it is properly translated. Sometimes a sentence uttered on stream gets translated and dropped on this board, but eventually it degrades like a JPEG getting compressed over and over and you get stuff like "hates her ears" which is based on the fact that she can put on headphones in one of her outfits. Her actual opinion on the ears is just: It's neat how my ears can interact with my long hair in a variety of ways, it looks nice in fanart.

Flare is chill and doesn't really spend energy hating much of anything. If she has a dislike, she talks to her fans about it so both parties can have a better time hanging out.

>> No.43817778

>>43814476
She was a redstone autist before joining Hololive, she’s been waiting for the new shared server for a while now. HoloX even delayed building their group house because of it.

>> No.43817855
File: 101 KB, 826x707, Fubuki flare knights.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43817855

>>43804825
>She even said she doesn't want a bow and arrow weapon in HoloCure.
Flare doesn't want a bow and arrow weapon in ANYTHING, she was talking about this as recently as 2 weeks ago. She says she can't interact with anything fan created that has her with a bow unless she mentions the bow issue because she doesn't want to be seen as silently accepting the bow using elf image. She even says she is scared to use them in video games she plays because then people will associate her with the bow, she hates it that much. Here is a clip from her serious discussion of it 2 weeks ago
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiNL0WLz_MM
>>43813994
And in her official figurine, but in the above clip she brings those both up and says they weren't her decision and aren't what she wanted, saying it isn't part of her own model sheet or character design. She appears to especially blame the anime teaser for cementing the "Bow Harassment" in the minds of people.
>>43809137
>Then, what kind of weapon she want?
Guns. About a year ago she was less serious about her bow hatred, laughing about it, but explaining she would much rather be associated with guns.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrJqSEPITQs
There is a fan video game in the style of Megaman about Flare and Shiraken coming out tomorrow. Originally in the demo she used a bow but they changed it later so she uses two guns now instead. Makes sense, since it is a fan game and they want to make her happy.
>>43809247
Well in the serious talk she had about it a few weeks ago she did bring up fire magic as an alternative to bows but it seems to be in desperation to replace the bow image with anything else, because a year ago she was saying the opposite and saying that she is just named Flare but doesn't have anything to do with fire magic and can't use it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0I8WLgf4IQ

>> No.43817971

>>43803751
she didnt like it because it was too masculine, she was tired of being the butch in her relationship with noel

>> No.43817979

>>43809810
>>43810359
The irony was that if she was more accepting of being cool, she would probably get called cute more often. You see that with Kaela, who is a pretty cool character but has enough really cute gap moe moments that she gets associated with being very cute too despite her protests (protests that only make her seem more cute).

>> No.43818051
File: 1005 KB, 500x700, shocking truth.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43818051

>>43813001
>Conclusion: Mage Rifle

>> No.43818144

>>43818051
Chaika? Chaika.

>> No.43818154

>>43806999
Flare always hated the Chinese.

>> No.43818336

>>43818154
She did the most bilibili streams in her gen though.

>> No.43818385

That's not Flare 1.0 though. That's like Flare 1.7. 1.0 had the soulless fucking eyes and lizard symmetry.

>> No.43818481

>>43818385
Yeah 1.0 didn't even have pupils

>> No.43818637

>>43818385
The only change to the base illustration was the added pupils. It was her L2D that was really bad.

>> No.43818696
File: 1.02 MB, 4096x2384, Flare original.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43818696

>>43818385
>>43818481
>>43818637
>1.0 had the soulless fucking eyes and lizard symmetry.
Around (half) Coffee Elves, watch yourselves.

>> No.43818762
File: 172 KB, 1233x1200, EBXcxmrU8AAfzEz.jpg:orig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43818762

>>43818696
https://twitter.com/lalalalack/status/1159075561752285185
The face did not change. The same "lizard symmetry" is still there.

>> No.43818905
File: 3.26 MB, 640x640, Anya mask.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43818905

>>43818762
>>43818481
>No pupils
>Fucked up rigging
It keeps happening.

>> No.43819015
File: 791 KB, 1040x1446, __shiranui_flare_hololive_drawn_by_jun_tsugumi__822a35393e0fd80c1e9a38d3d62d2bca.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43819015

>>43803751
Paizuri window.
Your argument is invalid.

>> No.43819050

>>43803751
Salamander face is bad tho
>>43804241
This should've been the 2.0


Smile & Go was good but the rest are dogshit.

>> No.43819132

>>43808775
The same reason Towa INSISTS on using that awful talking voice.

>> No.43819234

>>43819015
The old one has one too. The leather around it just makes it less obvious.

>> No.43819349

>>43803751
Flare is incredibly autistic about her image for some reason. If something doesn't fit her own ideal for her character she goes to great lengths to cut it out. It's the same reason why she refuses to acknowledge or interact with the others in Lack family despite them trying to organize group projects multiple times.

>> No.43819402

>>43817855
So what exactly is peoples' issue with elves using guns, anyway? Simple guns absolutely belong in medieval fantasy settings, since they were around in the real world since the 1200s. Why would a medieval fantasy elf not be allowed to use a gun?

>> No.43819534

>>43818905
That's pretty much Anya's mama style.

>> No.43819560
File: 52 KB, 343x444, hell subaru.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43819560

>>43819132
I mean, Luna still stays strong on her baby mumbling act even after all these years. Someone sticking to their character can be admirable.
Then there are others like Subaru and Suisei that have drifted away from their original character voices over the years, although that was more to protect their voices and throats from damage and strain. It is funny when Subaru references her original voice at times like during the minecraft stream she did with the gamers where she was talking about some events from 4 years ago and put on her old subaru voice when referencing it.
But even Subaru dropped the voice when it came to singing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-mgXYbfyf8
She even dropped the remnants of the "duck voice" for ASMR a while back despite her (in)famous original attempts at doing it with the duck voice, claiming she can use her "phone voice" to talk softly.

>> No.43819610

>>43804825
>>43809396
>noel
Tank
>Flare
Rouge
>Michael Neko
Necromancer/mage
>Marine
Bard
>Pekora
Onahole

They make a perfect team.

>> No.43819625

>>43819560
towa sticks to it cause she gets harassed for her voice either way, might as well have it be her fake voice than her normal voice that she gets shit for

>> No.43819644
File: 15 KB, 286x290, anya defensive oppai.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43819644

>>43819534
Yeah, but she had her rigging give her giant tits that she hated (despite the potential popularity it could have given her) and that mistake was corrected on future models rigged for her... but the face and bangsline is so fucked up on the new rigging that it makes it look like she is wearing a mask of her own face if she moves. Look at that gif again.

>> No.43819688

>>43819560
the high-pitched voices Towa and Flare use aren't part of their character, they adopted them because they both have complexes about their real voices.

>> No.43819693

>>43819625
towa...

>> No.43819733

>>43819693
if youre making a choice between being called sewer voice constantly or bba, its easy to see why bba is easier on the mental

>> No.43819775
File: 109 KB, 542x493, mzdx51.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43819775

>>43819644

>> No.43819811

>>43819644
Don't care about the rigging, I'm talking solely about pupils.

>> No.43819880

>>43818905
>Has to hold her glasses up because she has no nose

>> No.43819988
File: 346 KB, 2048x1252, anya design shit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43819988

>>43819811
I wasn't saying her (almost) lack of pupils was a mistake, I'm just saying that the two characters that were designed with odd, understated pupils also had big gripes with their rigging too.
However, Anya's pupils are more obvious on her original design sheet.

>> No.43820952

>>43803751
>why did she have to change
she's a prude

>> No.43821112
File: 190 KB, 1052x944, 1674775667123.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43821112

>>43803751
you don't even watch flare, and she looks a lot better with the 2.0.

>> No.43822835

>>43817855
>>43812162
>>43813001
all I'm gathering is that she wants a flamethrower

>> No.43823044

>>43819349
Personally I hope she sticks to her stance about not participating in lack family collabs save for that joint congratulations letter to lack about his marriage. Why should complete strangers pretend to be a family for the audience anyway, just because they share the same artist? Feels insane. What is this culture...

>> No.43823845

>>43817254
>>43817855
Thank you elfriend(s?) For these. Like the former post said, EOPs (like me) don't hear enough about her besides DMC jokes and her rejecting stuff about her character. I always found that odd considering she's part of gen 3. Speaking of DMC, is her favorite actually 2 or is that just anons being funny?

>> No.43823896

>>43805483
And? That's got nothing to do with with the appearance.

>> No.43824039
File: 167 KB, 1200x652, origin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43824039

>>43822835
Conclusion M202 Flash. Because incendiary rockets!

>> No.43824295

>>43817855
>She says she can't interact with anything fan created that has her with a bow unless she mentions the bow issue because she doesn't want to be seen as silently accepting the bow using elf image.
Kek, this makes it sound like she's afraid of it as a racial stereotype

>> No.43824629

>>43823044
even if they aren't directly coworkers (well, maybe with Aruran she is) they're still in a form of acquaintance and it's more a form of polite recognition and it's not really that different to how people within Hololive treat each other. why do you sound offended by it?

>> No.43825980

>>43803751
Flare didn't want to be coomer bait and somehow convinced management to modify her default 3D outfit even before she got her redesign. While hololive is a job and is about getting viewers they still have to deal with random strangers leaving messages in their chat every day they stream. If they don't like what they have to use for their job they will gradually burn out.

>> No.43826162

>>43803751
Chinks, they destroy everything

>> No.43826495

>>43817855
is it autism?

>> No.43827200
File: 84 KB, 426x382, around elves.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43827200

>>43824295
>racial stereotype
Also remember, she IS NOT a Dark Elf!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYjaozQWHlc
Commit it to memory!

>> No.43827353

>>43818144
Flare on the front page!

>> No.43828697

>>43824629
You're right that does read bit angry, my bad. It's that Aruran has expressed disappointment about lack family not being complete few times. The impression that holostars fans have of flare has shifted to her being a cold bitch. All because aruran can't seem to resist going "yes it would be nice if there was all of us, but oh well" I was elfriend first way before I got into stars so obviously I want flare to be happy more than anything, I don't want her to be pressured into doing something she doesn't want to do.
Annoyance is amplified because my other oshi also gets shit for not associating with his "brothers". I don't think playing family is bad, just the expectance of everyone playing alone with this idea is what grinds my gears.

>> No.43831093

>>43828697
>Aruran
I don't think Aruran has any authority to talk about people changing outfits considering his absolute fucking downgrade

>> No.43831387

>>43819402
>Cute elf with flintlocks
>spice it up with elemental flame for firework effect
I could see that

>> No.43831760 [SPOILER] 

>>43831387
If she were to use a flintlock what would Marine use?

>> No.43832976

>>43824629
No, I don't agree in the slightest. The obligation to pay attention to brothers and sisters would just end up in people exploiting famous chuubas mamas and papas to get into cliques. Being part of the same agency is completely different since it's very limited and you have to pass a selection to get in.

>> No.43833941
File: 384 KB, 498x643, very rare cool towa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43833941

>>43819132
>>43819625
It is tragic that Towa has such a complex over her voice because holy shit is her real voice sexy.

>> No.43834562

>>43824295
I mean, that's kind of the point. Elves are pretty well established in fantasy lore, and it's easy for someone with an elf model to get pigeon-holed into that. Everything that Flare has issue with, from the Bow, to being identified as the wrong race of elf, to her original outfit, is all aimed at trying to make sure no one comes into her stream with some preconceived notion of who she is/how she will act, only to be disappointed to find out she is not that person. She just wants to be herself, have people watch her who like her for who she is, and that's fine

>> No.43834734

>>43808775
https://youtu.be/lUoBNjIWiAc
Kaibatsu isn't even her most popular cover, Mental Chainsaw came out like a month later, has more views, and uses her higher-pitched voice

>> No.43835703

>>43819644
Anya is just dumb. All these are actually pretty interesting and unique characteristics that could be worked on but she decided to just be normal.

>> No.43835817

>>43835703
>All these are actually pretty interesting and unique characteristics that could be worked on
Not the face mask thing, it is uncanny and disturbing once you start noticing it.

>> No.43836467

>>43835817
>android-like sentient artefact disguises itself as a human in an attempt to mingle among human society but is imperfect in some ways(the face) and exaggerated in others(her boobs).
That sounds pretty interesting to me, gap moe even. Roboco but better

>> No.43836471

>>43809137
If you were to add flare to a holocure. The best solution would be to offer both choices.

Cool style : archery
Cute style : pseudo-magical girl with a magic wand-gun

It would still be a projectile character but with aesthetic change.

>> No.43836824

>>43804150
nene seriously went through the biggest downgrade, this design was peak sex and fit her perfectly

>> No.43837226

Flare is just a dumb bitch who debuffs herself like all of EN

>> No.43837344

>>43804150
>no boob window
You can admit to having bad taste

>> No.43838212

>>43817855
id say this is way too autistic but I watch porka streams...

>> No.43838584

>>43817855
Gunslinger elves are hella based.

>> No.43838848

>>43809137
>half-elf
There's your answer

>> No.43838984

>>43837344
more clothes = more erotic
less clothes = less erotic
I speak only facts

>> No.43839126

>>43837226
It's pretty embarrassing how she's the only member of Holo Fantasy who STILL doesn't have a million subscribers after all this time.

>> No.43839239
File: 143 KB, 960x1440, images (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43839239

I was about to make an edit of Flare on the cover of we need to talk about Kevin, and then accidentally brought up the japanese name of the movie.
This is too good to be true.

>> No.43840019

>>43839126
>muh subscraibas
She still sticks in the top for superchats, merch, etc, and she's a consistent 5 view, so why should she care about subs? Besides, she'll be the next one to round out her gen with all 1mil subs, still before gens 0,1, and 2 manage it.

>> No.43842219

>>43836471
Make her a stance character who starts taking penalties if she stays in one stance for two long

>> No.43842691

>>43842219
That's what Haato/Haachama is, but with buffs to incentivize the switching, which is a better design choice than debuffing for ignoring the mechanic. Thematically though, for Flare it wouldn't make much sense.

>> No.43842851

>>43840019
>she'll be the next one to round out her gen with all 1mil subs
By that point Noel will probably be close to making it so Flare is the only member of her gen without 2 million subs.

>> No.43846541

>>43803751
Flarepits

>> No.43846767

>>43803751
who wears only one stocking

>> No.43846803

>>43804150
I miss her vocal tick the most.

>> No.43847440
File: 461 KB, 779x1104, 1647309725136.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43847440

The 2.0 is superior in every way except for the string panties, which got nerfed anyways. The 2.0 is both more reserved and also sexier. Her ass got fucking huge and the paizuri hole is better.

>> No.43847528

>>43817254
Cheers. To clarify I was saying that I got that chill impression from her too so figured I must've misunderstood & that she's not actually anti-pyromancy too (at least not to the extent she clearly is anti-bow).
>>43817855
>because a year ago she was saying the opposite and saying that she is just named Flare
Is it possible there's some missing context here? Cuz I dunno why a regular would even call her a "fire elf" out of nowhere unless she'd recently burned something down again.

>> No.43847600

>>43803751
She used to look like ET but her outfit was better. They should definitely have extra legacy outfits whenever there's a redesign.

>> No.43847644
File: 7 KB, 299x168, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43847644

>>43819132
>>43833941
Wait what.
The rasp is FAKE?

>> No.43847992

>>43803751
I don't like the single stocking. Also, this >>43803809. Remember that Nene's outfit got changed too but still can't contain her full power.

>> No.43848243 [DELETED] 

>korean stream for gacha game
>mention ayame
...bae

>> No.43848260

is this runt anywhere close to 1m?

>> No.43849889

>>43847992
I'm not a huge fan of the single stocking, but the mismatched shoes are a bigger offender to me.

>> No.43850053

>>43804150
This was trash, unironically massive upgrade, the new look has more charm, soul, sex appeal and cuteness and actually suits her.
>>43803751
OG outfit was pretty good but the new face is massively better. But the new one is cute too. A shame the OG design is basically lost in history, would have been nice if she had both.
But I can understand why Cover is fucking done with China.

>> No.43850560

>>43817855
Why is she so autistic and retarded?
Bows are basically fantasy guns and they're forever deeply connected to elves.
It's not even a creepy or cringe stereotype, it's completely harmless and innocent.
You make it sound like she has genuine hatred for the mere thought of people seeing her next to one and I don't get it.
Honestly based anime music video, Yagoo should just make more shit with her and bows until she just gives up and accepts them.

>> No.43850880

>>43838984
Based and agreed.
There's nothing sexier than a fully clothed woman.

>> No.43853709

>>43817855
>wants to be cute, not cool
>also wants to be associated with guns
What does it mean?

>> No.43854271

>>43850560
Flare wants complete control of her image. It means she gets autistic when she feels like a certain thing is being imposed on her character without her agreement. It's not a very likable trait imo

>> No.43854605

>>43854271
I can understand that level of control over important thins like a new skin or a music video but it sounds like she takes it way too far on minor stuff.
But hey I'm just a pathetic thread watcher EOP so I don't know shit, maybe she's not actually this bad.
I can understand having preferences, everyone should be free to speak their mind.
"I prefer guns over bows" is a perfectly fair thing to say if she would rather have fanart with guns.
But if she's actually bothered by having fanart with a bow I think that's where it stops being a reasonable preference and becomes autistic obsession and yeah that shit is actually a pain in the ass.

>> No.43855197

>>43853709
Eh logically, a cute girl that is good with a gun would exude a nice amount of gap moe I reckon.

>> No.43855261

>>43838984
Actually true

>> No.43855764

>>43804247
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with the chinks, even non-hololive vtubers had to erase anything related to China even canning actual Chinese vtubers altogether.

>> No.43857794

>>43847644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yoWZjYWMl8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHZcXcdD9ZE
both showcase towa's more natural voice, first being more jwu, 2nd being much closer to her actual, her voice has been slowly dropping to her natural voice over the years, open up an old towa vod with it and one now and you can tell clearly

>> No.43858609

>>43857794
https://youtu.be/Z_W2wh9g3JY
This one shows off her voice along with her complex about it.

>> No.43858787
File: 748 KB, 2048x1098, 1677385581602.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43858787

>>43803751
I'm just glad that Lack's latest daughter appreciates her design, and thoroughly enjoys being a sexy bodyguard onee-san.

>> No.43859836

>>43857794
Fucking nihonjin, I swear to god...

>> No.43861139

>>43855197
So give her a P90 with her color scheme? Since P90s a pretty cute/cool gun without getting too tacticool.

>> No.43861629

>>43819610
>Pekora
>Onahole
sounds good

>> No.43861753

>>43850560
Sometimes her autism even spills over into trying to determine the identities of other Holos, like her recent refusal to acknowledge Gura as a loli despite the fact she very obviously is one

>> No.43861917

>>43857794
>>43858609
It's not her natural voice, she's a smoker. Female smokers have fucked up vocal chords.

>> No.43861956

>>43804405
>>43804247
>>43804150
>>43803809
There never was a better argument for a war with China than the fact that subjugating them would allow Hololive to bring back these outfits

>> No.43861974

>>43858787
Lack is such a great designer.

>> No.43862049
File: 536 KB, 1045x2048, Flare Coco together.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43862049

>>43803809
>Flare became so disgusted by chinks
Flare is so cool.

>> No.43862111

>>43861753
I saw that, it feels reasonable.
She was basically taking a hyper purist approach for lolis.
Loli isn't just a girl who is short and looks young, she also needs to feel like she is young, she needs to speak act and even sing like if she was young.
I think this point of view is way too extreme and narrows the concept of loli to such a degree there are basically almost no loli vtubers, but I can at least understand her mindset and I guess it does show she is consistently this autistic.
Yeah no wonder she performs so badly tho.

>> No.43862136
File: 2.53 MB, 518x474, nene rocking hard.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43862136

>>43808017
Nenechi is a very cute simpleton, so I rather liked the cuteness of her original design.

>> No.43862454

>>43861753
I never considered Gura a loli either. Just a short girl with a flat chest

>> No.43862741

>>43861753
>she very obviously is one
Not really? Just because she's flat and short doesn't mean she's a loli.

>> No.43864910

>>43823845
She ranks DMC2 as the worst in the series. This info is actually available translated, as it was back when all her videos got full EN timestamps (That guys life got busy, so stopped eventually, nowadays the timestamps are in JP)

The order is 5>4>3>1>2
https://www.youtube.com/live/oF5BIvPHSeI?feature=share&t=7081

She plays DMC2 to show she is a true fan of the entire series, and Dante is in it which according to her is more than ample reason to play the game. The whole stream is her trying to find something that will convince chat that the game is "not the worst thing ever", its a big gag where she hypes up stupid mechanics, while laughing along with the chat at how bad it is.

>> No.43865270

>>43858787
That's not even his latest daughter

>> No.43866455

>>43831093
Anonchama, your reading comprehension..........

>> No.43867319

>>43804825
Flare dark skin fire elf
Lamy pale white ice elf

I see what Cover was going for. but if FLare is going to reject it. That frees up the dark-skin fire elf that shoots arrows spot for a future Holo. Maybe JP7? EN4? ID4? Id love to see how they would do it a second time around

>> No.43867713

>>43839239
Holy fuck! This title can't be real.

>> No.43867758

>>43867319
Flare is a half elf.
She is not a fire elf, she said so herself.

>> No.43867856

She could afford to take a page out of Subaru's book and just let her fans have their fun.

>> No.43867990

>>43850053
For Nene, I preferred the new costume + old head. The smaller, and somewhat triangular new head always looks odd to me when placed beside the bigger, rounder old head.

>> No.43870095

>>43807272
So she's like Suisei but even less suited to it?

>> No.43870301

>>43862741
>>43862454
Loli is a body type.

>> No.43870563

>>43805408
>>43823896
NTA but Kronii's problem was that she wanted to be androgynous. She tried to only use her Kimono once she got it by trying to make Boros take the place of her breaths. Though after the Drama back in september/October she did a 180 and just started showing her breasts again. Think management told her she cant keep wearing her New years outfit everyday of the year.

>> No.43870874

>>43870301
Flare wants her lolis to be more childish than Gura to be what she considers a proper loli.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxUC47tJoLw

>> No.43871077

>>43870563
We all know about Kronii's gender brain problems.
I personally love reverse traps or semi-androgenous girls, but it is disgusting to see Kronii being so resentful of being blessed with such a powerful model and artist that propel her in her job.

>> No.43871343

>>43870563
>Think management told her she cant keep wearing her New years outfit everyday of the year.
That's definitely not the case since Flare did exactly that for an entire year.

>> No.43872331
File: 31 KB, 217x232, 1677402305686.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
43872331

>>43862049
mha hart, mah sole...

>>
Name
E-mail
Subject
Comment
Action