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>streams daily for long hours
>its active on tweeter
>keeps her fans updated
>cares about her fans, she even remembers some of their names
>released 5 original songs
>released 12 covers
>Can dance and can sing
>Actually cares about Hololive and her senpais
>Always tries to innovate with different formulas
>Always the one that arrange collabs
>Knows Japanese, can communicate with Senpais
>Has to carry 90% of the conversation by herself while the Gura isn't even sober enough to know where the fuck she is during the offcollab in Japan
>The HoloJP favorite
>Still get mogged by the once a month stream of the lazy shark

She should be at the top, what is she doing wrong?

>> No.43517004

>>43516957
Kiara if this is you then the problem is how you approach interpersonal relationships and your voice, both of which are under you're control

>> No.43517006

>>43516957
Easy answer, she's not very good

>> No.43517059

>>43516957
she’s loud and people find her voice annoying, simple as.

>> No.43517154

>>43516957
literally just her voice.

>> No.43517190

>annoying voice
>very abrasive personality
>me me me me me, see her latest tweets
>was jealous of Gura, admitted it on stream over 2 years ago
>still hasn't gotten rid of that jealousy
>not humble when she should be

>> No.43517216

>>43517004
Unfortunately true, I would like her even more if it wasn't for her voice

>> No.43517227

>>43516957
she's not attractive enough for pedos

>> No.43517235

>>43516957
Chicken voice was her first and most tragic mistake.
That, along with her trying way too hard, ruined her chances.

>> No.43517265

>>43516957
genetics

>> No.43517272

>>43517154
It's more than the voice for me. It's also her abrasive personality, bragging, and making everything about her

>> No.43517286

Hard work vs. natural talent or maybe even just dumb luck

>> No.43517310

>>43517190
>>me me me me me, see her latest tweets
I sincerely dislike Kiara. Like, very SINCERELY cannot watch her. But the "me me me" complaints are a direct result of her doing her job when the rest of EN doesn't give a shit. I'm speaking specifically in 2022 and 2023, but her problem is NOT me-me-me-me. Her problem is letting her insecurities dominate her stream.

>> No.43517349

>>43516957
She's a whore who wants to fuck every holomem. She needs a dick correction.

>> No.43517389

>>43517004
>>43517059
>>43517154
>>43517190
>annoying voice
Can you link a clip or timestamp of the most recent example you remember? I used to think she had an annoying voice but either I got used to it or she got better. I can't tell which and whenever people say she sounds annoying I wonder if they are just saying out of date opinions and haven't listened to her since 2021.

>> No.43517395

>>43517310
I don't dislike her but I don't really watch her, and yeah her insecurities are a turn off. I'm sure some lonely fucks are turned on by insecure girls, but not for me

>> No.43517436

Ugly voice

>> No.43517483

>>43516957
She is german, and not even a real german but the bootleg version an *ustrian. She never stood a chance.

>> No.43517518

>>43517190
Jealous of gura, its true?

>> No.43517607

>>43517518
Yeah, but not in a ''I hate her grr'' way though

>> No.43517716

>>43516957
gura could learn a thing or two

>> No.43517778

>>43516957
>is one of the top moneymakers in EN
I'm sorry, what's the problem?

>>43517190
>annoying voice
Her voice only repels homosexuals
>very abrasive personality
Very cute wifeable personality
>me me me me me
This has always been egg headcanon
>was jealous of Gura, admitted it on stream over 2 years ago
If you're going to dig up material from 2 years ago then you might as well just admit you've got fucking nothing
>still hasn't gotten rid of that jealousy
Except she did.
>not humble when she should be
Actually she's humble when she shouldn't be

>> No.43517844

>>43517389
I like Kiara hypothetically and do NOT think she's all me me me. I think she's good at her job. But even in DO YOU her voice is too put on and too nasally and fake. I've heard her RM, I know what she can do. The chicken voice is an act and it's not worth it.

>> No.43517934

>>43517190
Admiration is not jealousy you socially retarded loser.

>> No.43518111

it's amazing how they are perfect opposites
from their characters color, to the animal they're associated with, their element, body type, personalities, popularity, work rate

>> No.43518262

i just don’t like her design, otherwise i like her

>> No.43518291

KFPiss asturf thread

>> No.43518392

Shit voice, simple as.

Shark has cute voice that's easy on the ears.

>> No.43518406

>>43518291
They'll say that those "orange woman good" threads are all falseflags, but it really is just them going out and Jehova's Witness-ing.
It's strange to me how infested this whole board is with KFP under the surface, but stranger still is how they've all got that weird hyper-defensive hivemind nonsense going on where they label everyone who gives out a shred of criticism the same playground insult, like it's all they really have.

>> No.43518521

>>43516957
who

>> No.43518546

>>43516957
voice and constant yuribaiting are just egregiously annoying

>> No.43518670

>>43516957
Maybe if she threw her "I'm blunt deal with it" personality quirk to the curb she'd actually be uhhh likeable

>> No.43518851

>>43516957
now amount of tryharding can replace a personality.
that, and a horrible grating voice. she sounds like the woman you've been unhappily married to for 20 years

>> No.43518900

>>43518406
>It's strange to me how infested this whole board is with KFP under the surface
/vt/ respects Kiara. Eggs failed.

>>43518546
>yuribaiting
It's not bait. She legitimately wants to make out with girls. Remember when Gura was being a little shit and Kiara asked her if she wanted a direct kiss? If she said yes she would've gotten a mouth full of phoenix tongue.

>> No.43518965

>>43517004
>you're
grammatical mistake, your argument is rendered invalid

>> No.43519210
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>>43517389
I avoid Kiara at all cost except for collabs, last offcollab she sat infront of the mic and couldn't stop screaming, the other girls voice were so quiet so I had my volume up, her screetches almost got me deaf

>> No.43519294

>>43516957
>hard filtered most fans from the beginning
>annoying voice
>very selfish
>blabs personal stuff about her coworkers so they never want to open up to her
>doesn't play games that appeal to a wide audience
>constantly tries to leech fans from other streamers
She's not a good person and most people can see it. She always plays the victim. She doesn't do much to support anyone unless she's gaining from it. All she has is KFP and they aren't throwing money at her like they used to. Most the other girls all have multiple fanbases watching them. It's why Fauna can get a ccv of over 10k driving a truck or playing Minecraft and Kiara can't pull those kinds of views without it being a collab. You can't even use Kiara's stream times as an excuse because she's not doing any better in Japan. She's also not doing herself any favors by trying to leech off Nijisanji but that disappointment is just starting to unfold.

>> No.43519412

>>43516957
another KFP thread falseflagging as antis to play the victim

>> No.43519413

>>43519210
Understandable. I don't watch collabs anymore.

>> No.43519560

>>43519210
I like kiara but this collab she was loud

>> No.43519566

>>43519210
>Kiara sits near the mic because she understands how mics work
>other girls either too lazy and/or inept to sit near the mic or speak louder
>Kiara gets blamed for being competent
Classic egg logic

>> No.43519580

>>43518900
>It's not bait.
okay then the constant WHORING is egregiously annoying

>> No.43519608

>t. A bunch of eggschizo with the worst taste
Take your meds

>> No.43519759

>>43519294
>very selfish
>She's not a good person a
Give me 5 examples of Kiara being "very selfish" and 5 examples of her being "not a good person". Now here's the hard part. You aren't allowed to make anything up.

>> No.43519808

>>43519566
>She understands how mics work
>Constantly screaming into it

>> No.43519893

>>43519210
kek, what an active girl

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>annoying voice is cited as the #1 reason for kiara's difficulties
>ame is more popular
>her voice is more annoying than kiara's

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>Always relevant pasta

okay lets work backwards. and im not gonna just refer to times she LITERALLY talks about numbers, but times where she shows that she thinks she is most deserving of "the spotlight"

rather than celebrate hinotori reaching 3 mil, she randomly posts it at 2.9mil to try and pump it up to 3. https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1440029878976270340?s=20 sure this alone is very minor but it comes with a history.

just before that she was griping and complaining about umisea, barely a single word congratulating them but like 5 minutes about how holobirds should get the same treatment, meanwhile more than half of hololive doesn't get this treatment. again not recognizing that others who worked harder and longer don't get support either, but somehow thinking she deserves it, when we all know the reason why umisea is a thing is because Cover wants to market as much stuff as they can with gura and aqua is another very popular talent for marketability (look at how many cross promotions she gets) marine and ina mostly fall in to the theme but also round out the sound and both are good conversationalists so they keep communication good. mostly it's about the marketability of two of the most popular talents. not about it being "international" or anything like that. rather than recognize the gap in marketability. rather than be excited for her friends gura, ina, and marine. instead all she has to say about it is she wants what they got.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0xxtf0hgek [Embed]

1 year anniversary stream, besides constantly bursting out over gura's song: there's an often overlooked moment when they go on the stage to do SSS at the end. everyone else lines up to the sides, because they know ame is the "center" she always has been since before debut. meanwhile kiara bee-lines straight for the center mic, you don't hear ame say it, but you hear kiara's response when shes asked to move off to another spot. setting aside that ame has been classified as the center, and she put in all the work and money to set up the collab: she is holding the camera and CLEARLY needs to stand in the middle to get the good angle.
https://youtu.be/bZghtnL3y3k?t=4630 [Embed]

she whined about the managers making council "more powerful" as if anyone freaking cares, goes on a minute long rant about it, when it's clear none of the others REALLY care. kinda bashing her kouhai's characters before they even get started.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXBo3H9JFHg [Embed]

When she dropped sparks she was obviously trying to prove something to cover or her manager, I can't find a clip of it, and I don't remember what stream it was, but she made a big deal of how "please stream it a lot, it's important". idk if she wanted to do a live or what, but its obvious she wanted some kinda deal or something and needed to prove she had enough "pull". whatever it was she was really stressing that she needed a lot of views/plays on this one. again not seeming to be focused on making good content, or relying on natural growth, but instead basically begging fans to pump up her numbers. after months of "stream heart challenger".

before that it was knocking Ina for getting 1 mil first, before that it was complaining about how stuff was getting lower views after she moved back to austria, before that it was getting broken up about finally passing ina, before that it was being upset about "being the last to 500k" (meanwhile towa and aki were like sub 300k)

again, she's getting BETTER but she still has problems she needs to address before i'm gonna consider her "over it"

>> No.43520089

>>43520052
This was for you btw
>>43519759

>> No.43520117

>>43519989
lolnope

>> No.43520131

>>43520052
Oh look a whole fucking wall of text for me to ignore.

>> No.43520136

>>43516957
She should rape reine live

>> No.43520204
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43520204

Work smart
Not hard

Kiara is a shitter with an awful voice

>> No.43520216

>>43516957
maybe if she collabed with Tempus

>> No.43520263

>>43520131
>ask for examples with proof
>got examples with proof
>Im not readint all that
typical kfp

>> No.43520334

>>43520117
kiara's at least fully commits to what she's doing with her voice, ame constantly talks in this "indoor fake yelling" tone that activates some nerve that just makes the listener want to go out and punch a donkey in the nuts or something. I'm pretty sure kiara is mainly debuffed by the fact that nobody wants to watch 7 hours of someone playing JRPGs and talking about idols or whatever she does

>> No.43520343

>>43519210
What is wrong with your eardrums that a couple of excited reactions makes you go deaf?
Do you get tinnitus when a train goes passed you at a station or a shitbox car backfires?

>> No.43520419

>>43516957
It's almost as if she's boring and annoying with the worst cucks as her fanbase.

>> No.43520433

>>43516957
Oh boy another holo vs holo slide thread!

>> No.43520435

>>43520263
>my first post in the thread
I didnt ask for anything from you. Learn how to see new IPs newfag.

>> No.43520486

>>43520435
Seethe more delusional kfp

>> No.43520489

>>43519989
fair enough. personality and creativity are the difference here.

>> No.43520547

>>43520136
who wouldn't

>> No.43520599

>>43520435
so you've come to a thread that doesn't interest you just to tell us how much it doesn't interest you? fascinatinig

>> No.43520619

>>43517844
She's talked about it before. To her, the voice is the character she gave Kiara and it plays into getting into the headspace. She refuses to change because it's a comfort and ease of getting into the role, also she thinks everyone will drop her who like her for her current self.
Part of me wants to believe that she loves the fans that stuck with her through everything, and might be afraid some of them wouldn't like her more normal voice, so instead of taking the chance of losing them and reverting, she just keeps plugging away. It's both a fuck you to the people who choose to be filtered and a thank you to the ones who stuck around.

>> No.43520655

>>43520619
>spoiler
Sweet mother of kek

>> No.43520684

is this a raid?
or
samefaggin

>> No.43520760

>>43520334
Not to mention that her timezone was shit from the start and continued to be shit for the majority of targeted viewers in NA. No one can make it to a live stream of hers because it's in the middle of the fucking workday and that means she didn't build up any kind of loyalty with most of the EN sphere. It's why her VoD's do decently well compared to her ccv. When you look at other EN Holos, Kiara's % VoD vs CCV is way better.

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43520772

Hey anons lets stop this, we need to love each other and make myth great again

>> No.43520787

>>43516957
Personality and Voice are Kiara's worst enemies, Kaela is right here proving that working hard can make you more popular

>> No.43520799

>>43520684
>people gives valid criticism
>is this a raid or samefagging?
KFP literally thinks there is only 1 anti and only 1, there is no way people actually dislikes Kiara

>> No.43520853

>>43520052
>sure this alone is very minor
Wow your evidence is truly damning
>holobirds should get the same treatment
Valid point. Cover was grouping girls with a similar theme. Umisea and whatever than unit with Calli and Rushia was called. It made no sense to overlook holobirds when it was right there.
>Cover wants to market as much stuff as they can with gura and aqua
Well Cover didn't do a good job of it because they barely did anything with Umisea kek
>meanwhile kiara bee-lines straight for the center mic, you don't hear ame say it, but you hear kiara's response when shes asked to move off to another spot
Kiara was asked to move and she did? The fucking audacity of this woman
>she whined about the managers making council "more powerful"
You have to be a complete retard if you think that's the point she was making
>she made a big deal of how "please stream it a lot, it's important"
A singer asking people to listen to her music? Goddamn, she just keeps getting worse. I can't believe I didn't see the warning signs sooner.
>before that it was knocking Ina for getting 1 mil first
She didn't knock Ina for getting 1 million first. She was paranoid it meant her career was over and she calmed down when she realized it wasn't.

Your pasta is gay and never relevant.

>> No.43520919

Voice and timezone.

>> No.43520936

>>43520799
KFP are about as delusional as your English is spotty, which is to say, quite a bit.

>> No.43521108

>>43520599
Yes, I came here to tell you, doing the same shit for almost 3 years every day is uninteresting. Thought you should know.

>> No.43521167

Her inferiority complex is really off-putting to me. She’s so talented but she is always putting herself down.

>> No.43521194

>>43521108
it's okay when kiara does it

>> No.43521220

After 2 two years . KFP still think Kiara is the most popular member in Myth

>> No.43521246

>>43521167
That's a cop-out flaw that only garbage movies these days use and she has way worse qualities than that.

>> No.43521305

>>43516957
When you have a annoying voice and personality, streaming more and having more content only has the opposite desired effect. If she just stop streaming and making content then people would hate her less.

>> No.43521383

>>43521220
After two years, eggs are still trying to turn /vt/ against Kiara despite getting blown the fuck out and laughed off the board on countless occasions.

>> No.43521389

>>43519759
Made the Myth off collab all about her 3D

Complained council didn't invite her to their off collab

Left Kronii hanging on a sponsored stream

Basically copyright infringes on KFC

Already has 50 tweets with the word "me" since Jan 1, 2023.

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>>43516957
Not comfy enough

>> No.43521454

>>43516957
>She should be at the top
She's at the top of her life, all the things you listed wouldnt be possible if she was miserable being in the spot she is right now.

>> No.43521673

I'm still waiting the day Kiara become "Cover golden girl " ............

>> No.43521827

>>43521389
Only the KFC one is a stretch, I'd say. That's basically a harmless pun.

>> No.43521881

>>43517389
Chicken voice is a dated catalog meme that was maybe true in 2020.

Kiara’s high-pitched, heavy German accent is on the other hand very real, as is her ESL predilection to patch up missing vocabulary with cursing like a sailor. I don’t know that it would matter, though. Like would Kiara turbo incline if she woke up tomorrow with a pitch-perfect New England private school accent? I don’t think so. Voice is important but content is king, and Kiara’s content is heavily Japanese in nature despite being in English, so it makes sense that filters her audience somewhat since it blocks out younger watchers, a good chunk of Americans, and a good chunk of SEA.

>> No.43521969

>>43521389
>Made the Myth off collab all about her 3D
Stop right there, Anon. I said you aren't allowed to make shit up.
>Complained council didn't invite her to their off collab
There was a fuckup and Council thought Kiara knew about the off collab when she actually didn't know. She had every right to complain when she thought she was being purposefully excluded.
>Left Kronii hanging on a sponsored stream
Based
>Basically copyright infringes on KFC
Oh shit you're right
>Already has 50 tweets with the word "me" since Jan 1, 2023.
Okay now you've convinced me. She's a monster. Throw her in fucking prison.

>> No.43522041

>>43520853
Holy ESL!

>> No.43522071

>>43520619
>spoiler
kek, the copium of the kuckfp

>> No.43522123

>>43521167
that's pity baiting, she always talks down about her and talks with this fake crying voice so everyone just shower her with compliments
its so fakes but KFP eat it up

>> No.43522198

>>43522041
>ur native English is ESL huehuehue
Hello, ESL friend

>> No.43522450

One note personality and boring choice of games to play. Not sure why streaming long for a game that isn't interesting is praise worthy now. I don't see people praising DSP for doing the same thing.

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>>43521389
>Already has 50 tweets with the word "me" since Jan 1, 2023
I was going to call this one out but I just counted them.

>> No.43522645

>>43521881
I've heard her speak on her RM a few times like the birthdays. I legitimately believe her voice just became like that.
All the talk of non chicken voice is from 4 or more years ago. It's very likely age and her playing the character for the first year just caused it to be permanent.

>> No.43522923

Even if all of the listed criticism of her was wrong, there's still one massive glaring issue:

KFP. I've never seen a more vile and annoying fan group in the entirety of Hololive. You are a reflection of all of her worst traits and living them out, shitting on other Holomem because "But Wawa deserves it" while simultaneously sheltering her from any growth as human being because "Muh Wawa is perfect". You're just as bad as Troons.

>> No.43522946

>>43522923
Basically this.

>> No.43522997

>>43522923
>being this jealous that KFP's oshi is perfect and yours isn't
Sad

>> No.43523100

>>43522923
>one massive glaring issue:
>KFP
but wawa deserves it.

>> No.43523110

>>43519210
I don't even know if I agree, but that image really got me.

>> No.43523118

>>43522041
I accept your concession

>> No.43523141

>>43522923
All fanbases are like this. You just have an obsession with KFP.

>> No.43523255

>>43522923
You just described chumbuds lmao

>> No.43523264

>>43523141
NTA but even acknowledging that some other fanbases have issues somewhat similar to those, KFP have it the worst.

>> No.43523307

>>43522923
>Even if all of the listed criticism of her was wrong, there's still one massive glaring issue:
>KFP.
stopped reading there kek. You can't expect people to take you seriously

>> No.43523352

>>43523264
Not really, all fanbases suck up to their oshi and to them their oshis can do no wrong. So I don't know where are you getting this idea.

>> No.43523366

>>43522923
>Seething over a fanbase
How can you niggas let yourselves become this pathetic? You're basically seething at people supporting their oshis

>> No.43523413

>>43523264
>KFP have it the worst
Hello newfriend!

>> No.43523421

>>43523366
Catalog tourists will never understand because they don't even like vtubers. They are literally here only for drama.

>> No.43523462

>>43523413
>been around since Sep. 2020
Hello yourself.

>> No.43523524

>>43522923
So you're just seething because kfp support Kiara? No wonder you're so assblasted when they are one of the most fanatic fanbase in this board

>> No.43523593

>>43523462
Sure thing newfag

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>>43516957
Ironic that she started off trying to shit on Luna, and now she's the one calling herself "Kiwawa" and calling others "Wosemi" and "Eliwa"when Luna never talks like that in the first place, clipwatcher.

>> No.43523725

>>43523462
>been around since Sep.2020
HOLY MOTHER OF NEWFAGOTRY LEMAO

>> No.43523832

>>43516957
>Has to carry 90% of the conversation by herself while the Gura isn't even sober enough to know where the fuck she is during the offcollab in Japan

What? Is this a rrat or was Gura actually shitfaced?

>> No.43523843

>>43523662
2/10 shitpost. It lacks some reality

>> No.43523850

Kiara hasn't talked about streaming metrics in a long time now and is probably concerned more with Holofest and the 3D performances so I don't even know what this thread is trying to achieve.

>> No.43523863

>>43523662
Pure schizo shit, even holding a grudge over your fabricated fantasies for over a year. This is why antis aren't taken seriously.

>> No.43523890

>>43516957
>She should be at the top, what is she doing wrong?
Born with an awful voice.

>> No.43523897

>>43523832
Not really. She was being her usual self. The lazy queen of EN

>> No.43523913

>>43516957
And she didn't even get in for the streamer awards.

>> No.43523932

>>43523662
>January 31, 2021
>The clip is just Kiara surprised at Luna's song choice, and calling it cute
This is mental illness

>> No.43523954

>>43523890
You and every single anon saying awful voice post vocaroo right now lmao

>> No.43523981

>>43523662
Behold, the kind of person that hates Kiara. The chicken has it too easy nowadays

>> No.43524052

I don't hate Kiara but I'm always nervous whenever my oshi does anything with her

>> No.43524070

>>43524052
Why so? Goes for both parts of your sentence, mind you.

>> No.43524117

>>43516957
Memes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hardwork
This is what westeners prefer and this is why Jp holos will always be superior to any of the EN whores.

>> No.43524127

>>43524052
It's not like Kiara can make your oshi preganante.

>> No.43524145

>>43523954
https://vocaroo.com/1iQJR8oMTHfm

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>>43516957
>She should be at the top, what is she doing wrong?
She had 4 more talented people ahead of her. Kiara's biggest accomplishment was being the last Myth to a million. That's how she'll always be remembered.

>> No.43524297

>>43524150
>recycling shitposts from 2021
what yab are you trying to deflect this time, nijishitter?

>> No.43524298

>>43524145
kek

>> No.43524301

>>43524150
honestly, I'd respect her more if she was picrel. instead, she's whining bitterly about having what indies only dream to ever achieve

>> No.43524336

>>43517004
this

>> No.43524355

>>43524301
>she's whining
show me a clip of this from the past year

>> No.43524391

>>43516957
i actually like her voice i find the annoying nasally/squeaky tone of it adorkable and i love her more for it

>> No.43524534

>>43524070
Unless you're one of her Oshi's it just doesn't seem like she cares about the other girls boundaries in terms of collab content, so you get her being very forceful with trying to get the girls to say or do things when really she should have moved from the bit 5minutes ago.

>> No.43524537

>>43524355
>from the past year
got me, I haven't watch her ever since

>> No.43524569

>>43524537
Good job invalidating your opinion then

>> No.43524622

>>43524537
exactly. she hasn't talked about stream numbers in forever, so this entire thread is pointless recycling of shitposts >>43523850

>> No.43524634

>>43524150
Actually she'll be remembered as the only member of Myth who still worked hard at her job when the others started coasting, burned out, or gave up

>> No.43524638

>>43524534
This only happens with the autists in EN. The off collabs with Id and Jp were great because they can into banter and are actual streamers

>> No.43524708

>>43524569
>people can change
yeah okay

>> No.43524721

>>43524534
How much of a wallflower is your oshi?

>> No.43524735

>>43524569
Why should anyone feel obligated to repeatedly consume something they don't like?

>> No.43524749

>>43524634
>it's another "only my beloved WAWA works HARD at all and the other BITCHES are just LAZY :D" episode

>> No.43524765

>>43524735
Why talk about something you know shit about?

>> No.43524772

>>43524638
Like I said Kiara seems to actually try and play safer with the JP girls, at least after the peko incident, and ID is its own thing.

>> No.43524808

I like Kiara, sure she obsesses about the numbers too much, but everyone has flaws, and that's pretty tame.

>> No.43524814

>>43524638
Why does KFP have such contempt for the EN girls?

>> No.43524817

>>43524772
>try and play safer with the JP girls
You haven't watched a single Jp offcollab kek

>> No.43524871

>>43524817
All I meant was Kiara actually makes an attempt to read the room.

>> No.43524879

>>43524765
>consume the content
>don't like it
>stop consuming the content
>suddenly not allowed to say I don't like it because I stopped consuming it

>> No.43524885

>>43524814
Is that anon wrong?

>> No.43524905

>>43516957
Not everyone is into the sassy girly girl types, she has a lot of "yass queen slay" energy. Which is to say she has a dominant, blunt personality that's still very feminine and not everyone jives with that. I love her for it though. She's like a weeb stacy.

I don't think the voice is quite as much of a debuff as people say.

>> No.43524961

>>43524871
Nah she just feels comfortable with actual entertainers like the Jp holos

>> No.43525025

>>43524879
Fine but if you stopped consuming the content then you have no say on what happens to it later.

>> No.43525096

>>43517310
You are retarded. You don't brag about routine shit like being on time for a meeting. She only did that to make the others look bad. See what I mean? That's the shit i don't like and only Kiara does it

>> No.43525101

>>43524885
It's quite a subjective opinion he has, sure.

>> No.43525166

>>43524879
That's why that retard is getting called out. He talks about something he stopped interacting with a long time ago. If you want to throw your opinion on something then be it a thing you're knowledgeable about.

>> No.43525212

>>43525096
Maybe the other should startd being on time KEK

>> No.43525237

>>43524961
It seems like you're trying to start a fanbase war.

>> No.43525259

>>43524749
That's every episode. Because it's true. Ina streams sporadically. Gura has virtually given up streaming. Ame's typically lazy and low effort except for when she's putting together one of her projects. Mori works hard on her music career but in terms of streams she seems to be coasting at this point. Kiara's easily the hardest worker in the entire EN branch when it comes to actually producing content.

>> No.43525300

>>43517778
Kfp are fucking retarded. She got rid of the jealousy ? LOL NO SHE FUCKING HASNT. Very cute personality? Lol No, she's a bitch. Me Me Me Me Me. You can't even refute that lol. Kiara is never fucking humble. You are a lying kfp retarded. Probably European

>> No.43525343

>>43525096
>You don't brag about routine shit like being on time for a meeting
You do when everyone else is late for the meeting.
>She only did that to make the others look bad
She did it in an attempt to make the others get their shit together and start showing up on time.

>> No.43525353

>>43525259
This is why I preferred council.

>> No.43525356

>>43525237
I'm just stating the obvious. Everyone who saw the offcollabs can spot the vast difference.

>> No.43525373

Anon, if Kiara talked like this I'd watch her. But no, fucking KFP would probably beg her to not change at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSuTWSJIP1U

>> No.43525377

>>43525259
Fucking lmao

>> No.43525406

>>43525300
Okay but come back to reality now

>> No.43525411

>>43517934
Nope. She admitted to be jealous and still hasn't let go of it? Admiration? LOL. Kiara is too stuck up for that. Kfp are so fucking delusional. This is why Kiara will continue to he a nobody

>> No.43525432

>>43525259
And you wonder why people think you're annoying

>> No.43525433

>>43525356
>Everyone who saw the offcollab
I can't believe Mori was one of the better parts of that off Collab.
Honestly wish Gura and Kiara stayed at home.

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>>43525433
>Mori was one of the better parts of that off Collab

>> No.43525523

>>43525300
>LOL NO SHE FUCKING HASNT.
Yes she has. Show me an instance of her being jealous of Gura. You can't.
>No, she's a bitch
Factually incorrect
>Me Me Me Me Me
She was never "me me me me"
>You can't even refute that
I did.
>Kiara is never fucking humble.
She's cripplingly humble and KFP is constantly fighting an uphill battle to make Kiara realize she's good at things.
>You are a lying kfp retarded.
You're an egg. Opinion laughed at and discarded.

>> No.43525531

>>43520343
As he said, the other girls were barely even audible so he had to turn the sound way up. Kiara screaming, already loud, was magnified significantly because of this.

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>>43525411
>This is why Kiara will continue to he a nobody

>> No.43525542

>>43525483
It's depressing to admit, I know.
I really wish I got to hear more from Ina, but even her introduction was interrupted by the Wawa.

>> No.43525577

>>43525259
>Kiara's easily the hardest worker in the entire EN branch when it comes to actually producing content.

What content? The stuff no one wants to watch? She's basically finger painting with poop every day and trying to show it off. I'll take the occasional Ina stream with real art.

>> No.43525620

>>43525432
I know. Some people can't handle the truth.

>> No.43525654

>>43525577
Stop letting your delusions take over you. You're going to get laughed in every thread

>> No.43525723

>>43525542
Poor Ina she's incapable of speaking louder

>> No.43525741
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43525741

All these chumps thinking they "gotcha" by demanding I reference anything recent don't realize that you only get one chance to make a first impression, and Kiara fucked that up long go. Why would anyone check in just see if she's "better now"? We've got better oshis to support.

>> No.43525755

>>43525620
The truth being that you overplay the amount of effort your beloved chicken puts in.

>> No.43525782

ok what did vshitshow do today to warrant this thread

>> No.43525797

>>43525755
Doesn't change the fact she's the most hardworking EN after Mori

>> No.43525812

>>43525577
>What content? The stuff no one wants to watch?
>I'll take the occasional Ina stream with real art.
Funny you'd mention Ina because Kiara averages more VOD views.

>> No.43525823
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43525823

Her fake voice is really nasal. It has gotten better recently but even in her chitchat stream from January 20 you can still clearly listen to it. It's a shame she will never go back to the voice she used in her first 4 streams (her roommate voice) because that was a lovely talking and singing voice. I'm confident her music would've done better naturally without the chicken voice.
During /JP/ times there was a list of catbox files with her roommate's singing and anons had so many nice comments about it (Finding You being her absolute best singing. There was a short lived meme about Kiara "unleashing her power" by using her real voice, at least for singing, but that never happened)
Seeing those expectations evaporate by the chicken voice is just so sad. I'm not a hater and I actively watch her but her streams and music could be so easily much more appealing by a change that she refuses to do. I wish she was /here/ to read this shit but even then she's just too stubborn for no good reason.

>> No.43525868

>>43525755
Explain how Ina, Ame, Mori, and Gura put more effort in to streaming. You can't. Because they don't.

>> No.43525913

>>43525531
Well maybe the other girls should have been closer to the mic instead of blaming Kiara

>> No.43525917

>>43525868
I'd leave Mori out of that because at least she realeases tons of music

>> No.43525950

>>43525823 (Me)
>There was a short lived meme about Kiara "unleashing her power
it was "taking the limiters off" not unleashing her power my brain malfunctioned

>> No.43526023

>>43525723
I was honestly surprised Kiara was more obnoxious than Mori this time.

>> No.43526052

>>43517272
>When a VTuber that is not Kiara talks about herself on her own stream
This is perfectly fine
>When Kiara talks about herself on her own stream
WOW LOOK AT THIS MEMEME BITCH, REEEEEEEEE

>> No.43526080

>>43516957
Her voice is annoying and she says dumb unappealing shit(her giving marine shit for watching and being knowledgeable on CN cartoons for example, or just exclaiming self-evident shit with her shrill voice like in marioparty collab with IDs); she's only watchable when she speaks japanese because then I can't understand whether she makes a full of herself or not. She just doesn't have a vocation for streaming; doesn't matter how hardworking she is, there's just no fixing that.

>> No.43526083

>>43525917
Streaming, Anon. Streaming. I know Mori pours so much effort into her music that she's basically slowly killing herself but she doesn't put all that much effort in to cranking out streams.

>> No.43526089

>>43526052
>Kiara talks in first person
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I HATE ORANGE WOMAN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.43526110

>>43525096
Wow maybe the other girls should be on time

>> No.43526131

>>43526080
>She just doesn't have a vocation for streamin
Okay nice bait

>> No.43526146

>>43516957
loud and refuses to give screen time to others, its about her and only her and what she wants.

>> No.43526176

>>43525782
Get nominated in multiple streamer awards with no holos or nijis at all.

Even that cheating bitch Froot got nominated for something.

>> No.43526182

>>43526083
NTA but yes, I'm sure playing a JRPG for hours on end must take SO much effort, especially in comparison to writing your own music nigh-constantly, or arranging and planning full-branch projects because Cover won't do it for you...
Really, streaming's only PART of the job, so basing your entire idea of "effort" around it is nonsensical when there's so much else going on behind the scenes.

>> No.43526186

>>43525812
But MUH CCV

>> No.43526245

>>43525741
This.
It wasn't like she messed up the 1st few weeks and got better. She completely shit it up for the 1st year during the full group collabs.

>> No.43526256

>>43526146
>Delusional seething

>> No.43526307

>>43526080
>giving marine shit for watching and being knowledgeable on CN cartoons
I still understand what her problem was, did it not fit into her idealised view of what her JP senpais should like?

>> No.43526368

>>43516957
Annoying voice, obnoxious personality, doesn't let the others get a word in, self obsessed, yuri baiter. Just look at RUST.

She deleted RUST in a fit of rage because everyone was busy and nobody would drop what they were doing. She hated not being the center of attention, had a literal panic attack, and never played the game again.

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>>43526080
>her giving marine shit for watching and being knowledgeable on CN cartoons
>reddit mandchildren still seething because orange woman made fun of stupid cartoons made for kids
This will never not be funny

>> No.43526402

>>43525741
>Ignores that Ame, Gura and Ina have not improved at all in MYTH group collabs, because they are still seething at Orange woman
This is why EN viewers will never get kino MYTH group collabs

>> No.43526485

>>43526402
>Managing to make an offcollab with 2023 Kiara shit
Only the trinity of lazy whores can do this roru

>> No.43526508

>>43516957
Being orange

>> No.43526545

>>43525823
>I'm confident her music would've done better naturally without the chicken voice.
The ultimate problem with the idiotic chicken voice arguments that happen on /vt/ is the fact that Kiara's music way more successful than literally every single EN except for Mori and Gura, and even recently she does better than Mori. Her music also does better than most of JP as well, specifically when it comes to consistently getting her originals over 1mil, something only the heavy hitters can do.
It's a self-perpetuated delusion only found on /vt/ with no basis in reality outside of this schizo-chamber.

>> No.43526562

>>43526369
Mate, you're literally watching stupid whores puppeteer colorful cartoon women for your entertainment; where the fuck did you even find this high of a horse to ride on? Her reaction was just that of an obnoxious weeb and the sentiment that you share is quite childish and causes other to get second hand embarassment if expressed out loud.

>>43526131
You may not like it but this is the truth. She would've never taken off if not for hololive. She's just not that entertaining. In fact she's fucking annoying.

>> No.43526600

>>43526562
Ogey manchild.

>> No.43526673

>>43526307
>I still understand what her problem was
It's called banter SEAmonkey.

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>>43526562
>Waaaaa waaaaaaaahhhhhh she insulted my kino cartoons!!!!!
Grow up

>> No.43526676

>>43526545
Basically >>43517844 sums up my thoughts, sparks and do u and hinotori have decent views but they are not songs that stand out for her singing, they are just catchy tunes. Kiara can do better than that, that's the point

>> No.43526688

>>43526562
>Seething

>> No.43526694

>>43526182
>y-yeah well streamers do more than just stream
>they do stuff behind the scenes too
>so it's not like the fact Kiara streams more than Ina, Ame, Mori, Gura, Fauna, Bae, Mumei, Kronii, and IRyS is impressive or anything...
Kek. I accept your surrender.

>> No.43526713

>>43523832
She did a members stream before that on like 3 hours of sleep, she wasn't shit faced

>> No.43526772

>>43526368
>Kiara drops Rust because it's a boring piece of shit
>later the rest of Hololive drops Rust because it's a boring piece of shit
She was just ahead of the curve

>> No.43526774

>>43526694
>pulling out the "Imma type out what you said but re-fit it to my narrative and make it all stuttery" shit because you have no more arguments
No, I accept yours.

>> No.43526786

>>43526673
>It's called banter
Don't kid yourself mate. Kiara has proven she's incapable of banter in at least 2 languages.

>> No.43526798

>>43526676
>Kiara can do better than that
What is your metric for better? DO U was already the best performing (none-group) orisong released within the past 6 months, there's objective proof that her singing is popular, which automatically disputes the assertion her singing isn't liked because of her voice.

>> No.43526824

>>43526786
The ID and Jp offcollab prove you wrong

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I swear to fuck if you retards bully my chicken wife into changing her voice I will make it this entire board's problem

>> No.43526855

>>43526786
>Kiara has proven she's incapable of banter in at least 2 languages.
Kiara's literally the best at banter in EN, she loves a bit of back and fourth whenever she's collabing, not my problem you've never actually watched her and don't know what you're talking about.

>> No.43526858

>>43523832
yes, it was actually confirmed by Kiara, she said that Gura was a "a little tipsy" and not "all there" as a reason for why se was so quiet

>> No.43526871

>>43526824
>Jp offcollab
Roro rumao

>> No.43526878

>>43526832
She'll only change it when her throat is fucked beyond repair

>> No.43526901

>>43526674
>>43526688
I don't care about her opinion on cartoons I just posses enough of what her fanbase apparently has none of - social intelligence to see that she was making a complete fool out of herself. I'm not a huge fan of cringe content I'm sorry.

>> No.43526913

>>43526871
>No argument
You make it too easy

>> No.43526929

>>43526855
And it's not my problem that you delude yourself to a false reality.

>> No.43526958

>>43526929
Yeah you should stop doing that. The vods are out there for everyone to see

>> No.43526988

>>43520760
If Kiara is so hard working why doesn't she set an alarm clock and stream during better hours?

>> No.43526994

>>43516957
Thick german accent

>> No.43527006

>>43526855
She might be attempting to banter as much as she wants, doesn't change the fact she's fucking terrible at it and the result is always akward silence. Stupid chicken just can't read the room.

>> No.43527027

>>43526988
How does being hardworking and streaming at better hours correlate schizochama?

>> No.43527034

>>43517844
Yep, look at this cover version of DO U. Instantly 1000x more listenable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e2HvQHa3AM

>> No.43527058

I admire her for playing games she actually enjoys. It's a different experience watching someone who's genuinely having fun versus someone who just spends their whole time reacting or mining chat for quips

>> No.43527070

>>43527006
Sorry but we've seen all the offcollabs she's been part of. She can into banter with people that can actually entertain lmao

>> No.43527073

>>43526562
>Mate, you're literally watching stupid whores puppeteer colorful cartoon women for your entertainment
Yeah, but Hololive is for adults.
>where the fuck did you even find this high of a horse to ride on?
I found it when I stopped watching cartoons aimed at the 5 to 9 year old demographic.
>Her reaction was just that of an obnoxious weeb
Her reaction was based as fuck. Grown men and women who still watch Spongebob and Dexter's Laboratory are deeply mentally ill.

>> No.43527132

>>43526832
I want to bully her into graduation

>> No.43527187

>>43527132
You'll have better luck bullying yourself out of life kek

>> No.43527196

>>43526913
What there to argue?
It's a full force Kiara in the room with the JP's.
At least the ID girls have some experience with that type of thing since they have Ollie in their branch, which is probably why it went smoother.

>> No.43527197

>>43527006
Not even remotely true, watch any JP collab, any ID collab, any Takotori collab, any of the old Sametori collabs or recent Ametori or Takamori collabs (After Ame stopped being a wallflower and Calli stopped being a retard)
She literally dishes out and takes banter constantly, who in EN are you even trying to compare her to? She brings natural Eurobanter (which goes extremely well with JP banter) to a bunch of socially autistic Americans, she's by far the best at it and good at getting them out of their shells, the delusion that she's somehow bad at collabing is devoid of objective reality.

>> No.43527205

>>43527132
Congratulations on entering your third year of humiliating failure

>> No.43527208

>>43527132
thats a very hard task, soldier, she already bought JP armor.

>> No.43527209

>>43527073
I'm confused - why the fuck would you break my post up just to say nothing at all 3 times in a row?

>> No.43527247

>>43527196
>It's a full force Kiara in the room with the JP's
Come back when you actually watch the streams

>> No.43527251

>>43526901
>I have more social intelligence than KFP
>Seethes at Orange woman on a Korean Basket weaving forum, thereby being cringe
RUMAO the absolute lack of self-awareness from you Kiaraschizos

>> No.43527282

Can we have one KFP argument that doesn't have them shitting on Kiara's branch mates?
And you guys wonder why she feels alienated

>> No.43527289

>>43527073
Eh, appreciating old cartoons is fine, Tartakovsky's works stand out to this day. The problem arises when someone becomes a manchild with rose tinted glasses the moment a cartoon they grew up with is mentioned, ignoring all the trash that didn't become popular at the same time.

>> No.43527292

>>43527197
Post an example and I will explain to you how you are wrong.
>JP collab
As I said - since I don't understand Japanese it's the only language in which she's bearable to watch.

>> No.43527299

>>43527209
>no rebuttal
I accept your defeat.

>> No.43527319

>>43527251
I don't seethe at all. The guy asked why Kiara is not as popular as he wants her to be and I weighted in.

>> No.43527339

>>43527247
>Actually delusion
How about you come back when you pull your head out of your ass.

>> No.43527338

>>43527292
Lol look at this loser who doesn’t know Japanese.

>> No.43527360

>>43523850
>she hasn't talking about # in a long time
>1 weeks ago seething about numbers on her songs
well I guess 1 week its a long time for kfp

>> No.43527361

>Dumb design with two hats, a sword and shield she never uses, and fried chicken vs iconic god tier loli design

It's actually not fair how buffed Gura is by that shit

>> No.43527373

>>43527292
>I don't understand Japanese
You're fighting a losing battle then

>> No.43527398

>>43527299
Here's your rebuttal
>Yeah, but Hololive is for adults.
Hololive is for little babies, you baby
>I found it when I stopped watching cartoons aimed at the 5 to 9 year old demographic.
And started to watch cartoons for japanese teenagers and forging relationships with cartoon women?
Her reaction is literally cringe and anybody who watches anime and vtubers is mentally ill.

>> No.43527409

>>43527339
Go watch the streams. I'll wait

>> No.43527418

>>43527282
>Can we have one KFP argument that doesn't have them shitting on Kiara's branch mates?
I'm not judging the quality of Ame, Mori, Gura, and Ina streams. I'm just saying Kiara works a lot harder at churning out streams. Because that's just the objective truth.

>> No.43527447

>>43526798
Nigger Kiara is streaming in 4 hours I don't have time to deal with you all night
There's no way to know how much better her songs would do numbers wise if she sang better, which is something her RM shows she can do. Do u is way catchier than the shit universal was making Mori (her only real rival in EN) put out so Do u is a well deserved popular song, it just could be better if she didn't use the chicken voice.
Just give me back the singing Kiara from her first Karaokes goddamnit, or at least her October 2020 singing/talking which was a good balance of the cute energetic character she insists on playing, fucks sake. I'm sad we don't have the best Kiara in this timeline

>> No.43527449

>>43527373
>>43527338
Will you post any example of her successful banter session? There are so many of those afterall.

>> No.43527471

>>43527449
Any jp and id offcollab. Easy

>> No.43527482

>>43527409
I have, and it seems like we both came out of it with a very different opinion.

>> No.43527489

>>43527471
Just post them. What are you so afraid of?

>> No.43527499

>>43527449
Bro idc about Kiara rn. It’s just pathetic you don’t know Japanese if you watch Hololive.

>> No.43527507

>>43527489
Are you too retarded to click on vods or what?

>> No.43527530

>>43527471
Post them.

>> No.43527554

Is this board normally this bad during these hours or what?

>> No.43527562

>>43527530
Go to youtube and click on the vods. Not a hard task to do even for retards like you lmao

>> No.43527592

>>43527398
>he seethes about the vtuber and anime audience
>on the vtuber board
>on a site that was created to discuss anime
Jesus Christ, get your shit together, man. What are you doing with your life?

>> No.43527605

>>43527398
>Hololive is for little babies, you baby
Hololive's got swearing, tits, and rampant lesbianism. Confirmed not for babies.
>And started to watch cartoons for japanese teenagers
I've ascended far beyond Japanese cartoons and attained the enlightened state of having a parasocial relationship with my imaginary wife
>mentally ill
No, this is super-sanity

>> No.43527612

>>43527499
Do you even know where you are, retard? Not even 1% of gaijin viewers speak japanese.

>> No.43527619

>>43525237
that's what this whole thread is about, this is what KFP do
they pretend to shit on Kiara to play victim and then attack every other fanbase, even OP is attacking Gura from the get go

>> No.43527632

>>43527612
That’s their problem not mine.

>> No.43527634

>>43527562
>He's scared of posting his oshi shirting the bed

>> No.43527636

>>43527612
Skill issue

>> No.43527640

>>43521881
Pretty much >>43522645, unfortunately. I don't know how she didn't realize it herself when she played back her own voice.

>> No.43527646

>>43527592
>No rebuttal
I accept your concession

>> No.43527671

>>43527634
>He can't click on vods that aren't even 1 month old
RORU
RUMAO

>> No.43527692

>>43527530
Literally just watch any Takotori stream you spastic retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3do4ZMMhtQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKpDivJY1GA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHpPnFfYxt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31TFFX_pkNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiq41caO1PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I1lK0yep0Y
There's your stream links dipshit, What next, you want fucking timestamps? You can watch all of them in their entirety as punishment for being an annoying thread-reading schizo.

>> No.43527694

>>43516957
For me, I respect her for her work and drive, but everytime I've tried watching her play a game I like, she's in the middle of a 20 minute zatsudan tangent and not playing the game, which I'm not invested in Kiara herself enough to stick around for.

>> No.43527696

>>43527632
How the fuck does it make it pathetic then? I'm so confused about your logic. You can watch hololive and not know japanese this is a given. Most of gaijins who watch hololive do not speak japanese. Watching hololive doesn't inherently make you speak japanese. What makes it pathetic, retard?

>> No.43527703

>>43517934
>>43517518
there is a vid from like 2 years ago where she talks about the other girls in myth and she straight up says she was jealous as fuck of Gura at first and it would drive her crazy how hard the shark would mog her, but she is trying to be better about it

>> No.43527724

>>43527696
Skill issue. I watched Hololive streams and I learned Japanese just from that.

>> No.43527732

>>43527692
>Spoonfeeding the retard
Not based

>> No.43527740

>>43527692
Timestamps. I ain't watchin Kiara are you kidding?

>> No.43527790

>>43527740
You are conceding then

>> No.43527798

>>43527740
Just watch the streams, it's not that hard.

>> No.43527822

>>43527640
She has feedback on how she sounds and she has seen her own VODs a few tkmes. She also said she doesn't like the way she used to sounds (which is either a softer chicken voice or her pre Hololive RM voice) so what she did to herself is intentional, and I don't understand it.

>> No.43527823

>>43527724
Even assuming you're not lying through your teeth how does not being able to acquire language just through osmosis make it pathetic? This is something most people like 99.9% of them can't do.

>> No.43527830

>>43516957
Working hard is a meme. Success it's like 80% luck. Being at the right place at the right time, having the proper connections, born with the qualities and charisma to succeed. It's mostly all luck.

>> No.43527857

>>43527790
You're conceding if you're not posting stamps.

>>43527798
When it comes to Kiara - it is.

>> No.43527861

>>43527619
>t. OP
But seriously you are doing the thing that you are accusing KFP of doing

>> No.43527879

>>43527692
>Takatori
Already watched those streams, honestly would've been better if it was an Ina solo stream.

>> No.43527933

>>43516957
I swear I've seen this exact thread on this board every day for the past year, it's always the same, and always somehow reaches bump limit despite nothing changing
Why the fuck is this copy paste thread still getting replies

>> No.43527945

>>43522923
>more vile and annoying fan group in the entirety of Hololive
naw teakeks are worse

>> No.43527962

Does KFP normally talk shit and then claim it was a flaseflag?

>> No.43527976

>>43527857
>Is so biased against Kiara he won't even watch a stream
>Still thinks he would be able to give a good faith evaluation of her banter
You've already made up your mind regardless of any evidence presented to you.

>> No.43528009

>>43527962
>Does (pick any fanbase) normally talk shit and then claim it was a flaseflag?
I don't know anon you tell me. We're in /vt/ after all

>> No.43528042

>>43527933
check the time
hint: it's afternoon SEA hours

>> No.43528045

>>43522923
You just described Chumbuds

>> No.43528067

>>43528009
Good point, I guess it's just always KFP or "KFP" involved.

>> No.43528069

>>43527976
Just fucking post a timestamp: is that really that difficult to do?

>> No.43528083

>>43527857
>Provides proof
>Refuses to watch it
You're conceding

>> No.43528109

>>43528069
Just fucking watch the streams is that really that difficult to do?

>> No.43528116

nobody likes yuros, why is this a surprise

>> No.43528134

>>43527605
>swearing, tits, and rampant lesbianism
That's a child's idea of what adult content looks like, you petulant moron.
>state of having a parasocial relationship with my imaginary wife
Having imaginary friends is something children do though
>No, this is super-sanity
You missed 'in' after hyphen

>> No.43528138

>>43516957
Gura mogs everyone. What are you talking about?

>> No.43528162

>>43528069
>Muh timestamp
WTF is that going to accomplish, when you are not going to watch anyway, since you already made up your mind on seething at Orange Woman

>> No.43528172

>>43527447
pff whatever egg, take your meds

>> No.43528188

>>43528083
>There's no loheness monster
>It's here in the lake just search all of it and if you refuse then you concede
Yeah, no. Post the coordinates of its underwater cave.

>> No.43528207

>bitching about people not watching kiara clips in a thread bitching about people not watching kiara

>> No.43528212

>>43528116
Go to bed Burgerchama

>> No.43528223

>>43528162
I'll watch it I promise. I am even ready to concede that the broken clock is right twice a day if it's not terribly awkward and even remotely funny.

>> No.43528261

Kiara would have been better if she was with the stars.

>> No.43528288

>>43528188
>I am a retard
Wow we would never have guessed

>> No.43528312

>>43528288
Concession accepted.

>> No.43528320

>>43528261
I know she's a flaming homo but she has no dick

>> No.43528362

>>43528223
>I will concede, if my subjective opinion allows it
So still zero reason to post it

>> No.43528373

>>43528320
>she has no dick
I don't believe you.

>> No.43528377

>>43520052
I pretty much agree with this. I respect the grind, but she makes it too obvious to the point of seeming overbearing.

>> No.43528411

>>43528362
What the fuck were you expecting? Are you bumptious enough to think your evaluation has any objectivity to it?

>> No.43528502

>>43516957
People just didn't vibe with her, her voice is annoying, her taste in games is mid, and she has a spine to talk about her feelings. and while the last one is actually a based trait in my book, a lot of people just hate to be told to think about that cuz they just wanna see anime girls being silly, not be her therapist, and... yeah, they have a point.

>> No.43528503

>>43528223
The reason why asking for specific timestamps for something like this is annoying is because that's not how watching streams actually work, especially when trying to demonstrate something like chemistry between two people, you have to actually watch the stream to the full context and understand for why it's good, but since you are incapable of accepting that myopically begging for timestamps to streams you won't watch is a pointless endeavour, I'm going to do something that you should never do; spoonfeeding a retard.
Here's your coveted timestamp, even though the actual thing you should do is just watch any of those streams in their entirety, like any self-respecting stream watcher would do.
https://youtu.be/31TFFX_pkNA?t=9148

>> No.43528506

>>43528411
My opinion as a streamwatcher>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You opinion as a threadreader retard

>> No.43528569

>>43527692
>KFP thing this is banter
>Kiara makes comments that gets other uncomfortable
holy mother of cringe

>> No.43528572

>>43528506
The only stream I needed to watch was her debut.

>> No.43528590

>>43528411
Nope, which is why I am not posting a timestamp at a seething Kiaraschizo like you, but you keep on insisting that you are totally going to be fair when your seething is going to cloud your judgement no matter what, so there is zero reason to provide you with timestamps that you are just goinh to anti post with, now get out of my sight pathetic loser

>> No.43528597

>>43528506
Yeah, just like shiteaters think that their opinion is better than those of who judge them.

Are you retarded? I even agreed to take a little bite of the most exquisite pile of dung you dine on every day. Just fucking give it to me.

>> No.43528602

>>43528569
Looks like I was right, you already made up your mind.
>makes comments that gets other uncomfortable
Ina is literally laughing her ass off, how is she uncomfortable?

>> No.43528613

>>43528572
Then you have no say on anything Kiara related, therefore you opinion is worthless

>> No.43528648

>>43528569
Autist can't into social interactions, news at 11

>> No.43528664

>>43528590
I'm not seething. I don't even care about Kiara. I said my piece and you flew off the handles; I merely keep the temperature because I find it somewhat funny and I need to keep my 4chan cred.

>> No.43528690

>>43528572
>Only stream I need to watch is the debut
Wow thanks for once again proving that you are a retard

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>>43528597
I watch streams. I'll always have the higher ground

>> No.43528729

>>43528572
This is some wild shitposting, but I do wonder how many people actually think like this. It's weird how vtubers have an extreme reliance on having a favorable first impression while more traditional streamers don't remember shit from the time they started streaming and no one brings it up either.

>> No.43528760

>>43528664
>I am not seething
>Does not want to watch a single stream provided to him, because it has Kiara in it
RUMAO, who are you trying to fool Kiaraschizo?

>> No.43528794

>>43528590
just accept your defeat, you really just can't provide timestamp for that anon because you know there is no good content to timestamp

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43528808

>>43528664
>I'm not seething

>> No.43528839

>>43528794
There's literally a timestamp in the thread, are you illiterate?

>> No.43528851

>>43528503
wow that was cringe as fuck!

>> No.43528864

https://voca.ro/1bkPrLnEtHA2

>> No.43528917

>>43528851
>No explanation
Nice argument seething schizo

>> No.43528943

>>43528839
Im not going to watch that now, you took too long to give it, now I don't want it, I accept your defeat

>> No.43528958

>>43528760
I don't watch Kiara because I don't like her voice and because from what little snippetsI've seen of her she can't read the room and it's embarassing. Usually people clip the cream de la cream of stream's content and if this is what Kiara has to offer than I'm not interested. Since the conversation at hand is apropos of her ability to banter - I'm willing to see the best examples you can provide, but I'm not willing to sit though the whole stream.

>> No.43528985

>>43528943
Kill yourself

>> No.43528995

>>43528808
I now that sometimes it's difficult not to project your emotions onto others, but if you try really hard I'm sure you'll succeed.

>> No.43529174

>>43528958
Wow am I supposed to be impressed by you being a clipfag?
>I'm willing to see the best examples you can provide, but I'm not willing to sit though the whole stream.
So this is not you >>43528943, why are you not caling him out?

Here is the thing I am not willing to spoonfeed a seething Kiaraschizo that is a clipfag

>> No.43529277

>>43516957
Some of the most talented and hard working JP Holo's are the lowest in sub count before they all started breaking 1million subs.

>> No.43529291

>>43529174
Then I accept your concession.

>why are you not caling him out?
Why should I? I only reply to those who reply to me in this thread; it's not my fucking job to take on any more morons than those whom I'm already dealing with.

>> No.43529416

>>43517389
>I used to think she had an annoying voice but either I got used
and 90% of the people that gave her a chance didn't

>> No.43529490

People judge your character in 10 minutes or less, and they are unlikely to give you a second chance.

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>>43528808
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/filename/1669072880582829.png/
Yikes. This is your average Kiara defender who goes schizo in catalog threads and calls everyone an anti?

>> No.43529946

>>43520052
>promoting your own music is bad
>upsetti that she didn't suck gura and ina's dick for umisea, and that she had an interesting themeing idea herself
>1 year anniversary where she sang along to gura's song even though she was supposed to be muted, everyone but gura supposedly was is such a huge issue you have to lie about what really happened
>made a passing joke at the chuuni writing for Council, something council has also poked fun of time and time again
>getting mad that she again is promoting her music
>making shit up about her hating Ina

Eggs are fucking weird with all the shit that they make up.

As a normal person with semi normal friends (as normal as you can while still watching vtubers and streamers) it came down to a few things as to why they didn't stick around.
Her timezones
Her long streams
The voice

I've suggested it to her that she stream less and break up streams to service more timezones (like stream at 7am her time once in a while) and then another stream at maybe 5pm for the usuals but she really hasn't done it despite saying she'd consider it.

There's no helping the chicken voice at this point. She can slowly phase it out but I doubt she'd like that.

>> No.43530090 [DELETED] 

>>43529944
Based
Council is a blight (except for Fauna)

>> No.43530174

>>43530090
I don't care about Council but if he's free to shit on them then I'm free to shit all over Kiara since he can dish it but can't take it and starts crying

>> No.43530484

>>43529946
I don't believe I'll ever understand KFPs' strange fascination with rewriting events solely so their beloved Wawa isn't portrayed even the least bit unfavorably.

>> No.43530607

>>43530484
You're literally making shit up in your post though, retard.
If I was only 99% sure you were being bad faith I'd honestly get timestamps but you faggots are so predictable and spout the same garbage every time.

The funny thing is I even listed actual criticisms from people who aren't mentally ill weirdos and agreed with them to some extent but that's not good enough. You have to paint her as some insane weirdo who actually hates everyone and deliberately does awful things to annoy you specifically.

>> No.43530655

>>43530607
I didn't make that post, retard.

>> No.43530706

>>43530655
Who fucking cares, you're defending it like it's the absolute truth so there's no difference in attributing that pile of garbage to you. You're a delusional whiny retard who feels like an anime chicken has a vendetta against you and everything you love.

>> No.43530810

>364 replies
>105 posters
kek, the orange woman still has it.

>> No.43530915

>>43530706
Sure, sure I am, and I'm certain you and your brethren's belief that anyone who so much as remotely dislikes the chicken is part of the same tiny pool of bad actors who are solely devoted to doing so has nothing to do with what you think.

>> No.43531008

>>43530915
>I am not insane, it's just a small pool of bad actors
Then why are you getting upset at someone calling out blatant lies?

>> No.43531427

>>43530915
>Gets pissed at someone calling out blatant lies, but still points at valid reasons to not watch Kiara
Geez maybe stop being a fucking schizo and learn to take even the mildest bit of criticism instead of crying about muh KFP

>> No.43531446

>>43531008
I'm saying that from what I've seen, you and your kin can't accept any form of criticism that comes your oshi's way (at least not the ones you don't have a pre-rehearsed rebuttal for) and play it off as being from a nonexistent little cabal of eggs who spend their every waking moment filled with seethe for the orange woman, because surely someone of sound mind couldn't possibly dislike Wawa.
Anyway, I don't believe that anywhere in that pasted pasta there is implication towards any kind of deep-seated hate for her genmates/branchmates, most of it all just boils down to the chicken's usual ME ME ME routine.

>> No.43531497

>>43531446
>MEMEME
Ogey Egguardo

>> No.43531554

>>43531497
Is the name-calling really all you have? You legitimately couldn't think of anything more clever?

>> No.43531653

>>43531554
>Please give me something more clever
Nope you delusional schizos do not deserve it, until you give something clever first

>> No.43531714

>>43531653
Okay, so what I'm getting here is
>I have no more arguments and am just going to reply "egg egg egg egg egg!" to whatever you say, regardless of its contents, and hope it works
right?

>> No.43531731

>>43530607
>>43530706
chill did, why are you all worked up like that? take a deep breath

>> No.43532050

>>43531714
>can't even defend the posts he claims is the truth and has to deflect to "muh you think everyone iz egg"
>claims others have no argument
Curious

>> No.43532246

>>43532050
Yes, yes, very good, I notice you still haven't offered an argument regardless.

>> No.43532324

>>43531446
Jesus christ just admit you hate being called out you whiny bitch. I already showed critcs of normal people in my first post but again it's not enough, I have to concede to blatantly false shit otherwise I'm a big mean chicken bullying the poor mentally ill faggots

>> No.43532379

>>43532246
>more deflection
I accept your concession.

>> No.43532424

>>43532379
Still not hearing any legitimate argument here...

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