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434786 No.434786 [Reply] [Original]

when will she use her actual voice?

>> No.434805 [DELETED] 

>>434786
>S

>> No.434811 [DELETED] 

>she

>> No.434821

I personally don't expect her to ever do it. She's made it this far with this many fans, and they've been able to stomach it. She will retire with the TTS.

>> No.434841 [DELETED] 

>>434786
>she

>> No.434863 [DELETED] 

Can you really get doxxed with just your voice or is she being paranoid?

>> No.434884 [DELETED] 

>>434863
Paranoid as fuck unless you do voice work professionally or publicly. There's really no excuse for this. Several v-tubers (including Gura) have stated this is not an issue.

>> No.434916 [DELETED] 

>>434863
Unless you're marine or pekora, no.

>> No.435092
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435092

>>434786
When theres no reason to no longer give a fuck or once a gives no fuck Babiniku joins VShojo

>> No.435108

What if TTS tech gets a lot better?

>> No.435157

>>435108
You mean voice changers, tts will always suck because of the latency from typing it in (or speech detection input)

>> No.435275 [DELETED] 

>>434884
It's almost like Zen's real voice is something other than what (s)he claims.

>> No.435309

I just don't get it. do some people actually consume streams with their eyeballs and not alt tab? also she recently downgraded to a 2d model so eyeball users get even less now. i think her end game is to replace herself with a chatbot for infinite content.

>> No.435341 [DELETED] 

>>434786
When the estrogen finally works.

>> No.435342

>>434786
[Sad News]

>> No.435364

>>435157
>>435108
Look into 'Voice Cloning'

>> No.435411

>>435364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTd_R4WUhJA

>> No.435534

>>435092
UOOOOOOOOOH THAT DESIGN ALWAYS GETS ME

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435737

>she
>her

>> No.435838

>>435092
>Fap to her doujin
>Imagine male moaning coming out with each thrust
My cock throbs yet my heart trembles.

>> No.438665

Reddit TTS video watchers get their own vtuber

>> No.439762 [DELETED] 

>>434786
>zentreya

more like

tranz yee

>> No.439821 [DELETED] 

Xhe should use 15.ai

>> No.442683 [DELETED] 

>>434863
it's a man baby

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443493

>>434811
>>434841
>>435737
Yes

>> No.443539 [DELETED] 

>>443493
Yes anon, and Nyanners is a cat irl too

>> No.443613 [DELETED] 

>>443539
Nyanners is a female and so is Zen.

>> No.443666 [DELETED] 

>>443493
>>443613
>all this COPE

>> No.443788
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443788

What is the fucking appeal of a text-to-speech vtuber? I can't stomach how blatantly artificial it is.

>> No.443886 [DELETED] 

>>443666
>No proof
>b-but she's a man, trust me bro

>> No.443967 [DELETED] 

>>443886
On the internet, everyone is a man until proven otherwise.

>> No.445398

>>434786
Maybe she'd do a voice reveal by releasing a song some day.
https://youtu.be/flJjowiMPJQ

>> No.447314

>>443788
A lot of her appeal is from the chat TTS, not her own.

>> No.447650 [DELETED] 

>>443886
The cope on zenfags is embarrassing

>> No.448121 [DELETED] 

>>434863
>she
the answer is neither

>> No.448246

I assume shes a man, but at the same time I could totally understand if they were a woman whos just shy of her voice
I had the idea of using a voice mod if I was going to try to Vtube, but the character was gonna be a Android so I can mask my voice

>> No.448324

>>448246
this is wildly ridiculous. all women have passably attractive voices by default including hideous whales. it is the one thing none of them are really self conscious about. Also lots of men use android mods to mask their voices in places like VRchat. It's not new and everyone will still know you are a man. if you're ok with that its fine though and you should give it a try.

>> No.448362

>>448324
Its not about if their voice is attractive or not, some people are just so disgusted from the sound of their own voice
Also never said I was gonna be a lady android

>> No.448441

>>434786
Do the slightest amount of research and you will know the answer is never.

>> No.448503

>The only decent Vshojo
>uses TTS instead of his/her own voice
Speaks a lot by itself.

>> No.448645 [DELETED] 

>>434786
>she
>her

>> No.449998

>>448503
>Japan
>actual corporation backing talents who are good entertainers
>US
>one guy makes a little team for collabs
>every single member is lewd/meme/cringe
I really hate those "omg Japan is perfect" idiots, but it's pretty obvious who has the superior streamers.

>> No.450089 [DELETED] 

>>434786
>she
Hopefully soon because Dr. Girlfriend vtubers are based.

>> No.450326

>>449998
Twitch vtubers are just recycling a repertory of sex jokes to oblivion while chat replies with POGGERS!!

>> No.450732 [DELETED] 

>>434786
when ever he finds a voice changer that actually works

>> No.450851 [DELETED] 

>>450732
Voice cloning.
Babiniku future within 5 years, lads.

>> No.450880

>>449998
>a little team
>VShojo
well baited

>> No.451150

but what if it turns that with out the tts acting as filter for their commentary it turns out Zentreya is just as inane and annoying as the other eng vtubers

>> No.451297

Vshojo goes over the top with the lewd shit that sometimes so much that they become unwatchable,especially on big collabs or when Veibae is there, but the way some weaboos here talk about Vshojo is like they're getting gangbanged on streams.

Few of them are even decent streamers, like Nyanners and Mouse, it's just that they could really use a manager to control the crazy.

>> No.451351 [DELETED] 

Fuck you Jannies for singling out my reply. Ima say it again

>she
>she
>she

>> No.451465 [DELETED] 

>>451351
why are you obsessed with their genitals, my dude? that's kinda weird.

>> No.451498

>>448324
>it is the one thing none of them are really self conscious about.
you have never spoken to a woman before

>> No.451786 [DELETED] 

>>451465
Don't give a shit senpai.
I don't support posts being deleted just because Jannie is a Trannie that can't deal with shitposting.

>> No.451897

>>451297
>Few of them are even decent streamers, like Nyanners and Mouse
They're exactly the ones that can't stop talking about their vaginas all the time.

>> No.452922 [DELETED] 

>>451351
Rent free.

>> No.453057 [DELETED] 

>>452922
Don't even mind Zen. They're steams are comfy often. But I don't understand how people get triggered by others even alluding to the fact they could have XY chromosomes

>> No.453233 [DELETED] 

>>451786
Has less to do with how much you shitpost and more to do with intentionally bringing up their personal lives, which is rule #2 for this board. Occam's Razor.
Not saying that the rule is necessarily good, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is enforced.

>> No.453313 [DELETED] 

>>443493
Zentreya might be female
that doesn't mean that the person playing her is one.

>> No.453360 [DELETED] 

>>451465
No girls on the internet is one of the oldest shticks on this entire site and people have been posting >she for like 15 years since the days of people having e-girlfriends in WoW. Deleting every post that does the same for a TTS vtuber is dumb as shit. It's not against any rule and whichever janny is doing it is a fag.
>>453233
>rule #2 for this board
It's not a doxx or discussion of personal life because it's not real, it's a dumb and completely harmless meme that everyone is male until proven otherwise. But this post will probably be deleted anyway because no fun allowed.

>> No.453433

>>451897
Froot is likable enough, Zen's slow ass typing means their bullshit is kept to a minimum Mouse's whole bubble boy disease thing somehow makes what ever she says seem like adorable, innocent wish fulfillment by a sick little girl that cant leave her house instead of just the usual annoying horny ethot chatter. Silver is just boring. Nyanners is tolerable only in short chunks. Melody was more likable before she decided to talk like a 12 year old with a 70 pt IQ. And I kind of hope the newest one stays banned from twitch because Jesus fucking Christ she was unbearable

>> No.453517

>>453433
>Zen's slow ass typing
This is what kills the appeal for me, feels like all commentary is delayed by 10 seconds past whatever is actually relevant.

>> No.453559 [DELETED] 

>>453233
I would agree if it wasn't for the fact that it's a rule that isn't really applied consistently or even appropriately. Plenty of other replies in this and other threads talking about similar subjects or points of contention that are glossed over.
Even then I don't agree with it. Unless your literally doxxing someone, then all conversation should be free game.

>>453360
This

>> No.453658

>>453433
Mouse gets a free pass due to her condition.

>> No.453680

>>453658
Meant for
>>451897

>> No.453708 [DELETED] 

>actual roomate pictures stay up for hours
>any mentions of Shartemis or Zentranny being a man get immediately nuked
FOR FREE

>> No.453894

>>453658
You don't even know if her condition is real.

>> No.453980

>>453894
True, but I'm willing to believe it due to how much she hams it up when people press on the subject. So either she's a talented liar, or sincere as they come and just wants to have a good time with the little she has left.

>> No.454077

>>453894

She started before Vtubing was profitable, she is well informed about CVID if you've seen her early streams (also, a really random sickness to fake), and she is not smart enough to keep lying for 3 damn years. She often cancels her streams because of her condition = less money. And consequences if people found out she faked it are not worth it.

>> No.454507 [DELETED] 

>>434786
Isn't "she" a dude

>> No.454585 [DELETED] 

>>454507
Oh you've done it now...
>NUKE INCOMING

>> No.454937

>>453433

Hime was OK as what she was doing before vtubing. I couldn't think of a worse person to listen to more than 15 minutes unscripted.

>> No.456098

>>454937
but booba

>> No.456208

>>453980
>>454077
I'm sorry to break it up to you but women are professional fakers. They lie a lot about every thing. I'm not even trying to sound like the cheated husband, but that's how it is like. I'm not saying she's lying, but she can do that without much problem. And when women start with a lie they go down with it to the bitter end until she's exposed and the throw a giant tantrum to make the person that exposed her the new Hitler on the block. Habitual psychology does not apply to women when they want to lie or cheat, so give up on that.

>> No.456396

>>454937
Yeah, no fucking idea why she decided to go with that insufferable monstrosity, instead of just getting some animation rig and start doing her standard "play terrible vn's while pretending to die inside" act using it.

>> No.456408

>>456208
I don't disagree with you since I've dealt with a fair share of two-faced lie till you die slags. Dispite that, I would need more evidence than "she's a woman making money so she must be lying".

>> No.456497

>>456408
I don't know if Mouse is lying either. But my gut feeling tells me she is a cheating cunt. This might be just me superimposing bad past experiences on her though.

>> No.456570

She would be alright if she didn't decide to break her apoliticality to sperg out over politics on twitter.

>> No.456612 [DELETED] 

>>434786

They were big in the VRchat streaming community a few years ago, can confirm its a man.

>> No.456624

>>453433
>Zen's slow ass typing
She uses speech to text -> text to speech. How does anybody believe otherwise? I could understand if you thought it was a duo where one person typed and the other did things with the model but just one person playing a game and typing / talking at the same time? C'mon man. It is even more obvious now with the Live2D model because you can see the lips move as she speaks into the mic before the TTS kicks in.

Zen may type things when not on camera like over discord or whatever but on camera it is very obvious she's not typing shit.

>>453894
Why doubt it? Not everybody is a lying asshole and her YOLO mindset seems to fit someone who has come face to face with mortality more than any of us have.

>>456208
>I'm not even trying to sound like the cheated husband,

And you failed miserably. If you want to be cynical that's fine. Ironmouse has stated that people like you who doubt her are what she prefers because she wants people to treat her normally, not as a sick and pathetic dying girl from Puerto Rico.

>> No.456664

>>456570
She did that once and deleted the tweet because she knew it was a bad idea. Everybody gets one mulligan. She then shut down any discussion of it on her next day stream. She knows politics needs to stay out of her career and had a moment of weakness.

>>456612
>can confirm its a man.

I'll wait patiently for your evidence.

>> No.456843

>>450326
as opposed to doing the same old tired YABE joke and chat spamming 草 ? your weebness is showing
besides, vtubers like Matsuri, Marine, Mea etc. do the same yet they get a pass because they are le beautiful japanese women

>> No.456961

>>456497
Saying this for your sake but it might be worth letting your guard down over situations like this, if only this one time.
Here's a girl with a seemingly heartfelt, convincing, and pretty inconvenient situation. There's plenty of other lies she could of come up with that would be far more convenient for her to use & abuse the situation. But hey, you have a gut feeling, so who am I to say.

>> No.457042

>>453433
Snuffy is great.

>> No.457069

The fact that half the replies here aren't even about Zen (without even counting the masses the Mods deleted) kinda says a lot about her content

>> No.457120

>>456624
>Ironmouse has stated that people like you who doubt her are what she prefers because she wants people to treat her normally, not as a sick and pathetic dying girl from Puerto Rico.
Yeah but if she wants to be treated normally, why did she reveal her health issues in the first place? See? This is where I throw some red flags.

>>456961
I don't really mind it, just speaking my mind because I see people from time to time affirming Mouse is sick and I giver a pass etc., when nobody even knows if she's for real or just a psycho chick making stories up. And I'm telling, psycho chicks DO create absurd stories and tell them with a straight face. Just a friendly advice for people that go too emotional on that stuff.

>> No.457443

>>457069
It says a lot more about the /jp/ posters who use any thread about western vtubers to shit on all of them

>> No.457655

>>457069
It was a troll thread to begin with, why are you surprised?

>> No.457699

>>457655
So it's actually zero discussion then.
Good to know

>> No.457729

>>457069
This also happens with Artemis and Nyanners, two other v-tubers that aren't very popular here. It's almost like their threads mostly exist to shitsling.

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>>457729
>It's almost like their threads mostly exist to shitsling
No, it's just faggots like these who were exodused from /jp/ and now feel bad for sharing a board with western chuubas so they try to shit up these threads.

>> No.457821

"she"

>> No.457852

>>457729
Kinda a shame because I was interested to see if there's any discussion or anything juicy, but between the shitposting, anons talking about other vtubers, and faggot mods, theres not a lot of hope for dragon mummy thread

>> No.457859

>>457819
There are plenty of other Western v-tuber threads that don't descend into the same degeneracy as the three mentioned. /wvt/ isn't even this bad. I don't deny JOPs play a role, though.

>> No.457862

>>434786
Probably never. Zen did a voice reveal once but becuase of shit that happened in it they probably aren't going to again.

>> No.457877

>>457852
It really is a shame but unless the fans (if they exist here) start working harder at keeping the thread alive and on-topic, there's no hope.

>> No.458094

>>457120
>Yeah but if she wants to be treated normally, why did she reveal her health issues in the first place? See? This is where I throw some red flags.

Because she wanted to. Because she doesn't treat her followers like faceless minions but as people she can open up her personal feelings to. Because sometimes you just want to talk about it especially when you're living it and need to vent your frustrations with being a disabled immunodeficient person who can't go outside and can't enjoy life like the rest of us do.

This girl cries when she gets to experience things in VRChat. She does that because she remembers times when she could and knows she can't do it anymore. She has a lot of melancholy built up inside of her but she doesn't like to let it show. Instead she stays positive and still entertains her fans. Maybe there is a bit of untruth to that part of her in that she might be unhappier than she lets on but that's a far better thing than saying she's lying about all of it.

>>457852
She's released two drumming videos in two days! One was to Silvervale's "Home" shown in this thread and here's the other:

https://youtu.be/KyTKEnd7zNU

ARRR me harteys!

There are a lot of people who like Zen and Zen's content. Not a lot of them are here because everybody still thinks this is /jp/ part deux vtuber edition (especially since Vshojo fans aren't immigrating from /aco/) but we do exist.

>> No.458213 [DELETED] 

>>434786
>SHE

>> No.458366

>>458213
seeing SHEposts almost makes you wish for a nuclear Jannie

>> No.458431

>>457120
>I throw some red flags.
you really do, faggot

>> No.458590

>>458094
I've had a chick in my job that told everyone a rape story. She cried about it a lot and everyone treated her like a brave heroine. Years later I met her ex-boyfriend and told him the whole thing. He went berserk. He told me she used to tell sad stories about her family and when he met them they denied everything. Since he understood he was putting dick in crazy he went away and that's probably why she invented the rape story as a lie to cover another lie. Again, I'm not saying Mouse is the same, but be careful with girls and their stories, specially the ones that are too emotional.

>> No.458756

>>458590
Yeah, I heard about this woman that was a serial killer once too, therefore I can just assume that all women are serial killers because I have one example that proves my preconceived bias

>> No.458872

>>458756
You don't need to assume anything, just don't get too emotionally attached to stories you can't even know if they are true or not.

>> No.458893

>>458590
yeah once an anon on 4ch told a story about a girl that was 100% true and something i should believe. now i take everything on 4ch literally and believe they spout nothing but the truth

>> No.459437

>>458893
Granted. You don't believe stories you read on 4chan on the same level that you shouldn't believe stories that comes out of the mouth of women you don't even know personally. There you go.

>> No.459616

>>459437
you thinking women are somehow inherently less trustworthy than men is probably why you’re on here and not in a healthy relationship

>> No.459685

>>458590

>>458590

Father of my friend is telling everyone how his wife is a hag that's using him for money and turned his kids against him with lies. He was living in his wives apartment, was cheating her with anything that wanted to open her legs to him, and was regularly beating his wife, my friend and his little sister.

He was often bragging to his then 7 year old son and 5 year old daughter about his sexual endeavors. Also, always called them worthless and incompetent and that the only thing they could do is work for him in his bakery.

The younger sister was in such a bad shape that she almost killed herself once and spent some time in mental institution. She's a dropped out of school and was a borderline hikki until recently. Friend is also very asocial, but at least he is more stable and a main bread bringer in his household since he was 18.

After they divorced, the POS payed alimony as if he has minimum wage although off the books he owns multiple bakeries. Again, I'm not saying you are the same, but be careful with guys and their stories, specially the ones that are too emotional.

Yes, women lie a lot, and you should not trust everything you read or hear online. You can't be sure if I pulled this story out of my ass, but its kinda too specific and convoluted to be a fabrication, don't you think? Same with Ironmouse.

You Redpillers are as bullshit as radical Feminists. They at least might grow out of that shit someday, but most of you just stay retarded.

>> No.459708

>>457862
>becuase of shit that happened in it they probably aren't going to again

You mean their friends calling them out and getting banned because they knew "she" was a guy but had a girl do the voice reveal? I don't care that they lied any more, it was years ago, but I do believe people deserve to know what actually happened

>> No.459772

>>459708
why do people just pretend this shit didnt happen?

>> No.459808

>>459616
Just listen to yourself. You said not trusting 4chan stories is right (which I agree), but you're also inclined to believe stories that comes from some e-girl because she tells it with some emotional tone. Get real dude.

>> No.459907

I still find hilarious how 70% of this thread is about Ironmouse

>> No.459981

>>459808
There's more at stakes for her to lie about something that big than for someone who anonymously posts on fucking 4chan

>> No.460314

>>459981
What is at stake? You don't even know who she is and probably never will. She's a talking anime avatar without identity. There's nothing for her to lose other than close her channel after receiving all those donations. What are you going to do after that? Complain about it here? lol

>> No.460356

>>459708
>>459772

Because it didn't. Let me reinterpret what the previous guy just said: "they were sure Zen was a guy and didn't accept the girl voice" so they got butthurt and got banned for being assholes.

>> No.460625

>>459907
It's almost as if there should just be one vshowhore containment thread for all of them.

>> No.460818

>>459907
Every Zen thread is about something else because the TTS is the single interesting thing about Zen and there’s nothing else to talk about

>> No.460984

>>456208
If so then other people who have spoken to her on cam and talked about it publicly are in on it. All of the identifying collateral she's nuked to protect her identity is fraudulent. Her mods who have been with her for years, when she hasn't actually been making any money until this past year are in on it. The medication breaks and occasional beeping noises from her oxygen machine are carefully crafted fakes. She's encouraged people to donate plasma and give to the Immunodeficiency Foundation, all as personal a money making scheme. For 3 and a half years.

I don't know the incidence rate of CVID but at some point you need to apply Occam's razor.

>> No.461012

https://youtu.be/dmrf3ieiylw

>> No.461047

>>460984
When a girl cheats, all her friends defend her. There you go.

>> No.461060

>>460984
You say all this but that other guy knew a woman who lied so I have to go with him

>> No.461577

>>460356
No, they knew it was a guy because plenty of their CLOSE friends who they used to interact with in private during their VRChat days were confused by it, the only people defending them were fans who didn't know better and orbiters, no one else spoke out for them.

>> No.461910

>>461577
So those close friends, right? The ones who know the truth? They've never said anything about it since and if it outraged them so much why wouldn't they make it their mission in life to expose Zentreya further now that she's gotten more famous?

I've seen one video by some dude who never claims to be a friend of Zen and only uses "deductive reasoning" to try to convince the audience despite the evidence he provides being more full of holes than a sponge.

This is my issue with anybody who brings up Zen: nobody can provide shit for evidence anywhere but they spout out stuff as if it is an absolute. These friends you speak of would be great places to explore but for some reason they're all collectively silent about it.

Look I accept the possibility Zen is a guy IRL, though I don't really give a fuck. I just find it amazing how many people are so sure without any reason to be sure.

>> No.462083

>>461910
There a was collab stream where the whole group was playing some survival game and Silvervale called Zen a "him" a bunch of times. Does this serve as proof?

>> No.462421

>>461910

Because that type of thing is damaging to your reputation. It's the same reason a lot of people don't immediately get "outed". Sometimes they never do. Considering most of their friends were streamers, they're putting their careers at risk even if they're right about it. I can honestly say that if I was in the same position I wouldn't do it either.

>> No.462473

>>461910
Thank you for this post Zen

>> No.462579

>>462083
No because I'm pretty sure you're missing some context.

>>462421
Whose reputation? All of them from back in VRChat days were or have become streamers? All of them are successful enough not to risk themselves on this? We're not talking about everybody here, but the ones who were apparently angry Zen did that. They were angry enough back then to piss and moan about it but not now? I don't buy it.

>>462473
Turn on text to speech for maximum impact.

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