/cure/ - Holocure: Save The Fans

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A thread for the Vampire survivors inspired Holo fan game

Link to download the game:
https://kay-yu.itch.io/holocure

HoloCure Twitter:
https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame

Leader boards are currently down because too many people are playing the game. Will be fixed in a later update. You can still play and brag about your score here though so we don't clutter up other threads

Previous thread:
>>43329069

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Dead overhyped game

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https://www.youtube.com/k-lGnoxkyL8
Soon

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https://www.youtube.com/live/k-lGnoxkyL8
Soon

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>>43465596
Don't you have a shitty megaman knockoff to go shill?

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>>43465819
*unpopular shitty megaman knockoff

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>>43465699
Koyori GO HARD!

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>>43465945
Oh she makes me hard alright

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>>43465347
So you guys really gave up on the reentry thing huh?

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>Playing Irys
>Farming coins
>Get Super Super Chatto time
>Attack well over 600%

I know you cant plan around it but god damn was that ever a fun run

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>>43466656
Unless you get the greed stamp it doesn't count

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>>43466832
Well yeah I was planning on just farming but then I got tSSCT and suddenly my attack skyrocketed which technically was counterproductive but god damn damn did it tweak my autistic urge to watch numbers raise obscenely

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>>43465819
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/search/image/1JlAPNCKHpFPEseuO54ZDg/
It looped back into being sad at this point

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Koyori is about to fight nodoka

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>>43467142
What is his end game?

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Is koyori going to make it?

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SHE DID IT

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>>43467916
She did!

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What's the N-Chan kill count for Hololive now

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>still have 1 hp
>dies anyway
WTF AQUA

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkHMMS4UeU
Towa soon

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>>43468630
I think there is a bug going around with damage adjusting items right now, I died despite having 5 hit points left while having both plushie and bandaid

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>>43468692
Only seen it as skill/item still triggering healing after a game over.

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>>43468654
Towa cute!

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>>43426983
>That makes me curious about the Full Meal. Was it just there to boost Eldritch?
DESU it was there to be my only source of healing, initially. Then I got an enchanted Spider Cooking & EN Curse around the 5-10 min stretch and figured I might as well. It legit saved me around the 11min mark.

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I'm pretty much done with the game outside of gachikoi cheevos. I need a new dose quick.

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>>43466656
is irys the best coin farmer in this game?

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>>43472420
1000%

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>>43472420
With the current greed stamp meta, yep

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>>43465347
Alright noobs, now that kc cup is out of the way, I will now try your game.
>No more resource site in OP
Fuck this disadvantage. Give me all the collab combos

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>>43473328
https://holocure.fandom.com/wiki/Collab

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>>43473581
Yeah we should just put this in the op consideirng none of you lazy bums updated to rentry

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Hey there cutie, wanna have some fun with oneesan?

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>>43475159
Keep this up and hes gonna have that as an ability for his character

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>>43475159
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAp_AI582Ys
lol

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Ina can run through Yagoos a lot better than I expected. I was not built for this at all, I could have lasted a lot longer (plus I doubled back a few times).

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Bonus belated bOkayu thought for the anon from 2 threads back (presuming they're a regular): >>43263564 >>43265495
Try manoeuvring around mobs so that you're always aiming UPwards. Her main weapon's projectiles can hit multiple times and their gravity mechanic's unique to her (and now Aqua too), so you end up feeling like a bombardier shelling No Man's Land with tasty rice-based death.

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>>43475159
I HAVE BEEN CATFISHED

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>>43475652
My general reccomended build
Halui-More mods more EXP/Stamps/Anvils
Milk-Everyone benefits from AOE/Pick-up
Limiter-Near full screen pick-ups keep from constantly having to readjust constantly as new enemies die just outside reach. Use it to "Shrink" the playing field to manageable size

Those go on everyone generally then

Level up item-Either Glasses Smith Gear or Credit Card. All to effedctively provide more bang for Halus buck. Kaelas gear is the best of these but has high rarity

Offensive item-GWS Pill Energy Drink Mask Soda or GoriPaw to make you kill things better. A general build could fill the last two slot with Energy Drink and GWS for enough Haste/Crit for almost anyone if you arent worried about defense

Extra slot-If you dont have two offensive items you either need a support item like Horns for Choco/Mel/Sora or Bandage/Body Pillow depending on your kits ability to handle hits

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>>43468352
Yes

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Oga is experiencing his inner jew

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I've returned, as promised. 1 hour survival challenge still up!
>Previous:
00:35:13
>Current
00:37:28
>Goal:
1:00:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAlGQJJ5Eg

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I have maxed upgrades yet I struggled to clear S1H with Mel. Could only clear by ignoring her skills completely and go full collab.
Mel's bats and cooking are fine early game but barely does anything beyond minute 13.

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he's rolling in it

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So what's the overall tier list of chars looking like now?

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Ina is so bad, I'm extremely confused. I can't figure out what it is she's supposed to be good at. She doesn't deal damage, so the enemies just pile up. Which sounds absurd, since all of her skills sound designed for taking on piles of enemies.

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>>43468630
Aqua's 44.5 hp causes some oddities with death at times. I thought they fixed the one with injection asacoco but I guess not.

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>>43478818
Are you playing with Halu5 or Marketing? Because with max upgrades S1H is relatively easy with any character. Unless you are turtling too much.
>>43480423
Control. Knockback + Stun Stickers + Snow Flower Sake.

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>>43480423
Post build, I wouldn't call Ina strong but she can hold her own.

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>>43478070
>>43479813

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>>43480423
>>43480540
Ina also does particularly well once you get some area of effect/rapid hitting collabs (like Snow Flower Sake actually, but Flattening Board is great for her too due to being flat) because 4th Wah gives a guaranteed 2x damage every 4th hit, meaning she is functionally doing 1.25x damage overall. It's like having a level 2 gorilla paw build in.
Big groups also are wide open for insta-kills with Ancient One.
I think Ina is actually especially good with the Milk since it lets even more enemies be hit at once and even increases the size of the KO radius for Ancient One.

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>>43480707
>Playing with membership
You didn't beat the game
>Playing with halu
You didn't beat the game

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>>43480824
Yeah knight milk is extremely good for her I fucked up and had to pick the bandage on >>43480707, but it's something I try to never miss. Frozen Wine is also almost required as well because it pairs amazing with stun on her tentacles.

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>>43480824
Milk was always on my mind when trying to build her, but never try it because I rolled water bottle first or other thing that leave me without slots. But you are right, anything that helps procs 4th Wah is good.

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>>43480788
Lel

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>>43480881
Greynames need to stop talking.

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>>43480540
>>43480707
>>43480824
I struggle to even build a single collab and I don't even notice AO half the time. It can spawn on top of nothing, on top of bosses, on top of enemies I'm already killing. Maybe 25% of the time, it spawns on top of a pack of six or eight fans, and converts two of them. That's cool, it one-shot a couple fans, but now they're in the mosh pit pushing enemy fans towards me and I can't grab them unless I kill them first. In other words, it didn't do anything, since the attacks killing those guys would've killed them, too, anyway.

It just feels like she doesn't do damage and she's slow. I think the idea is to build her fast and tanky, but that doesn't sound viable anymore since the game has now become about dodging projectiles and surviving inside "unkillable" blockades.

You ult, and it pushes enemies back for a couple seconds, and then it's over. It doesn't kill and they just walk right back. And there's probably so many of them that knockback does actually nothing, since you can't knock them through other fans or something, so they all just sit there waiting for you to stop spinning. And the most retarded thing is this is completely contradictory to her Void skill. She has a close proximity skill, so why would she want to knock enemies away?

If I try to rush a collab, I die 8 minutes in at the self-destructing Sucorn. If I build for items, either tanky or damage, I can maybe get to Nodoka, but then she rapes me.

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>>43480881
>Playing with IRyS
You didn't earn the coins.

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>>43480540
I have Marketing 5 but I had to drop Halu to clear. I do kite around Merumeru cooking but dps is an issue when I build defensively (Uber Sheep, Horns, Pillow)
Which is weird, since I could stomp through crowds while I was playing chammers.

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>>43481622
Ao-chan's great but only shows real power later when there's tons of enemies, they help pick up XP though. What I usually prioritize is her first collab and the tentacle, then work on the others. You want to give her some healing, Choco horns work well thanks to AO chan's instakill and plushie later on will help you survive. Aside from that I always pick Halu5, and try to always pick knight milk, energy drink for haste, and something to buff damage, but tend to focus on maxing collabs before maxing items.
For the stamps pick stuff that debuffs/stuns, and lifestamp if you're having trobule surviving. Explosion is also good since the area of the tentacles is huge and the blasts can proc the status effects as well.

Honestly that's it pretty much. I'd like to try playing her with the fandom/grank bonuses turned off but I don't think it should be impossible even without them.

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>>43482039
These OkaKoro fuckers just took five specials from me, thanks to Super Idol Dress, and they're still alive.

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>>43481811
What I used to do before the update (and I have no reason to believe isn't effective anymore) was trying to fish for Halu as the first item. Then i tryed to upgrade the weapon alternating with halu and maybe a skill thay i think was a damage upgrade. With Halu @5 and Weapon @7, focus on build the collab (sually broken dreams but i think in this patch snow flower sake is equally good), focus in one skill that suits me, and one item that help me to do damage (or if you found the blacksmith gear grab it). Usually at the minute 6 i finished the collab and could wipe the crowd of GuyRyS and from them it starts to snowballing in your favour.

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>>43482114
Have you tried killing the healer first? That wave spawn with 2 of them. Also what are you even trying to make with Spider Cooking and Buttplug? And you severely lack dps item, what even is the feather for?
Sorry if it hurts you but seems like you are the one who needs to git gud instead of Ina.

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>>43482114
That part is very annoying because of the healers and the bosses sometimes appear from both sides with one healer each.

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>>43482114
>Two weapons that don't collab together
>Feather
>Only +35% attack

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>>43482114
>>43482374
Also not the same person, but at minute 7 you should strive for gaining your first collab.

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>>43465347
>Leader boards are currently down because too many people are playing the game. Will be fixed in a later update.
Dyrbi?

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Yeah I'm enjoying the IRyS feature

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>>43482578
Not worth it unless there's something you really want urgently, playing the game with Halu gives so much coin I've got every update bought and have almost a million in the bank with almost every character rolled to oshi rank.

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>>43482374
>>43482426
>>43482432
>Have you tried killing the healer first?
Of course. They died during the first spin.
>Also what are you even trying to make with Spider Cooking and Buttplug?
I can't control what items appear, so I picked the best ones I could. I got plug right at the start, so I thought I'd build Dragonfire, but I never saw fanbeam. One roll I got garbage, but I knew I'd want spider cooking eventually, so I grabbed it. That's all.
>And you severely lack dps item
You said build collab first, but you also recommended milk and horns, so I grabbed them. I've tried building Ina with damage items before and it didn't feel that much better.
>what even is the feather for?
It's only a matter of time before I die, I'm not sure I can do it without it. I'm not Kiara or Irys.
>Sorry if it hurts you but seems like you are the one who needs to git gud instead of Ina.
I beat S2H as every other EN and Fubuki first or second try.

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>>43482865
>I can't control what items appear, so I picked the best ones I could
Rerolls and Elimination...

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>>43482930
Yeah I have five of each, it doesn't do that much.

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>>43483007
You have to be extremely unlucky to not land one good collab while leveling the tentacle/your first weapon and picking whichever rare items you need though.

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So, has Mumei done the speed run under 4 minutes yet?

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>>43478818 (me)
Feels like there's less enemies in S2H, most likely because moomer wiped them all. I'll try again with Mel (or any melee character) and see

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>>43483122
I don't know what to tell you, I guess I'm unlucky. Level 1, I saw Asacoco and took it. I got to 24 and got like six boxes, plus five rerolls, no I did not see fanbeam. I did see bomb, but I thought Dragonfire would be better than Breathe-In.

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>>43482657
I just wanted to clear the shop before getting started with building up the fandoms, 2 GrindRyS runs did it.

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>>43483675
My gameplan is I always priotirize Halu, so priority wise it's

Halu
Energy Drink / Knight Milk
1st collab pieces
Tentacle
Other collab pieces if they have bonuses
Other items

Things don't always work perfect, but by the time I level the tentacle or halu or the 1st collab item, I'll absolutely have found the second item and a good number of the other things I need.

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>>43484083
I'm pretty sure Halu will just make my problem worse.

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>>43484741
Maybe, but then the rest of the list stands. If you choose smart you'll rarely need rerolls, though it's a good idea to start eliminating items if you're going for something harder to find

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>>43482578
I'm poor as fuck, what's the best IRyS build for farming le coins?

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>>43483647
I should've switched back to aqukin stamp.

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>>43484931
Greed stamp, Superchatto, nothing else matters.
Don't grind too much you'll have too much money and nothing to spend it on.

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Marketing 5 doesn't feel enough, 10 levels when

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>>43483675
Go with only 1 weapon route and never go back. The only RNG that matters is when aqua's panties will drop.

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Niceu

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>>43484992
Might as well just achievement hunt. You'll get more than enough coins that way and avoid the monotony of playing the same character over and over again.

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So this was pretty fun. What exact time does TaranChama spawn in? Cuz it'd imploded by 20:10.

I'm starting to think that Injection AsaCoco might be viable for Yagoo endurance. Anyone experienced with it able to give any insight?

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>>43486110
fukinnnnnnn forgor the cap ofc

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>>43485214
According to this discussion, though, her weapon sucks and you have to rush collabs.

Just first tried it as Mio, by the way. I'm not claiming to be good at the game, I'm just wondering if people think Ina is the worst, because she seems that way to me so far.

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>>43482114
>>43482865
>>43483675

You have bad stats have bought nothing from the shop and are playing on the extra hard difficulty released AFTER everyone had months to knock out two whole shops worth of increasing upgrades. Its a matter of low stats probably compounded by a skill issue where you blame bad luck on poor decision making. Now I know that probably sounds harsh but you are making compounding mistakes and dont seem to recognize any of them

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>>43484741
Halu eventually makes the game easier because of all the XP you get from killing the extra enemies. I usually rush the first three ranks and then wait a while before I finish it up.

Also, work towards collabs instead of building two random weapons all the way up. I have a hard time believing you got that far without seeing Lava Bucket, CEO Tears, EN Curse, Holobomb, or Fan Beam. You don't have to be super picky about getting the exact weapons you want in stage mode as long as you finish your first collab reasonably fast.

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>>43487028
Shop upgrades aren't the issue, he has more than the recommended minimum. Item selection is the problem. No one else has mentioned it yet, but the feather is a wasted level up that just lets you die a second time after dying because you didn't take a weapon or useful defensive item. You can't even die on purpose to remove it from your bar like the tiramisu in VS.

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I got a new PB.

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I really love Mel's kit. Just bite everything forever.

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>>43487028
You sound very arrogant for someone who buys their wins.

I have plenty of coins. I turned G Rank off and only buy as many upgrades as I feel I need to beat the latest, hardest stage. I've determined that five of each upgrade is enough. It's enough for Gura, Amelia, Irys, Kiara, Calli, Fubuki, Baelz, Sana, Kronii, Fauna, Mumei and Mio. I suspect it will also be enough for all the others.

Except Ina. Every single one of them have "low stats," so how did I win with them and not Ina? There's two possibilities: either Ina sucks or the way I play is incompatible with Ina. I'm willing to accept either, but buying more upgrades won't answer anything.

What I think is going on here is that I've run into the problem of Ina being one of the worst characters, which is something you specifically (and maybe everyone else in the thread) can't see because you've buffed your characters so much that even the weakest one trivializes the hardest challenge. Meanwhile, I'm at the threshold, where my buffs are just enough to elevate everyone but the worst character.

You might be right that I suck at the game, but you haven't answered why this only applies to Ina. Apparently, you can make compounding mistakes and poor decision making and still win as every character EXCEPT Ina - but Ina isn't bad or anything, you just have to have a very high IQ to play her. :^)

>>43487089
>Halu eventually makes the game easier because of all the XP you get from killing the extra enemies
Bold of you to assume I can kill anything with Ina.
>work towards collabs
You're right, I just did a run as her where I built Broken Dreams relatively quickly and it shredded through enemies. I don't really get why. Nodoka still killed me, though. I guess I have to be very, very specific about what I build on this character (who is not bad, by the way).

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>>43488227
>Nodoka still killed me, though
Having either Bone Bros or Dragonfire trivializes Nodoka and A-chan.

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>>43488227
Not that guy but your point would have more weight if I hadn't seen you with a fucking level 7 Asacoco and a level 6 Haachama Cooking 7 minutes in.

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>>43488227
>>43488746
Also to be fair, I don't think anyone really contests Ina is one of the weakest characters right now, but she can definitely win.

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>only just realized that you don't need to do all three things to get fan and oshi
well fuck that makes things faster

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>>43488227
>buying upgrades other than disabling G Rank
You didn't beat the game.

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>>43480788
>Next update has Irys wearing this outfit
>It costs 1000 tears

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>>43488587
I had Dragonfire and Eldritch and something else, but it wasn't enough.

>>43488746
I took what I thought were my best options. I could've grabbed items I didn't want. Or stats.

>>43488831
>I don't think anyone really contests Ina is one of the weakest characters right now
But that was my only argument from the very beginning.
>but she can definitely win.
Anyone can win if you give them full upgrades. The question was how she compares to the others.

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>>43488227
There you go, Okakoro corpse in the shape of their boxes. Took me only 16 fucking seconds to obliterate them and I'm doing it by your rule. +50% Atk from Membership so base 30%, I even refunded fandom because I thought you also didn't have it, guess I was wrong. +20% Haste and +50% Spd from Energy Drink, so base 20% Haste and 30% Spd, Energy Drink was my first item. Also 5 rerolls and 5 eliminates, eliminate all used up by now.
I have no problem saying that Ina is definitely in a weird spot right now since she just got tweaked, but your original statement of her being so bad definitely ain't it, you just kinda suck at itemizing.

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>>43490205
>I took what I thought were my best options.
Your best options were two weapons that don't collab and individually max them?

>Anyone can win if you give them full upgrades. The question was how she compares to the others.
Weak or not let us know how she behaves when you actually build her properly in a run.

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Anyone had a spontaneous BBT moment recently?
>try Kiara on Injection
>gonna build around her Special
>plan changes when Bat Stamp drops early
>already on-course for Dragon Fire & Bone Bros. tho
>sword can't fkn reach the enemies in time to proc the healing
>SUDDENLY: BAE STAMP

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>>43490282
>>43490303
I have no idea how you're level 31 6 minutes in when I was level 24 7 minutes in and apparently had fewer upgrades than you.

But I'm not saying I'm not bad, I'm saying this is a problem I only have on Ina, so I don't know how you can say Ina isn't bad. If it were just a me thing, then I'd be having this same problem on every character. I'm not, it's literally only her. I'll admit I stumbled a bit on Baelz and Sana, but on some of them I did it first try.
>Your best options were two weapons that don't collab and individually max them?
I don't control what I get from boxes and yeah, I figured I wanted them both eventually anyway. On every other character, I can play for the future. I don't need a collab in 6 minutes or something.

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>>43491707
That's why offensive items > defensive items, you kill more which results in you getting more exp and you getting more levels, which snowball you into getting more item rolls. Also did you properly stand near top or bottom before the bosses spawn so you can drill them optimally with her special? Even with the knockback nerf there's still some milliseconds where they will be out of the circle, which leads to dps loss.

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New high score with Wawa!

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Ina's tentacles should grab XP for her, maybe Takos too.

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>>43492203
Takos might be too overpowered, but tentacles should.

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Hey guys, who should I use for getting the couch potato achievement?

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>>43492139
>That's why offensive items > defensive items, you kill more which results in you getting more exp and you getting more levels, which snowball you into getting more item rolls.
Sure but if I don't take items like Milk or Plushie in the first 20 levels, there's a good chance I'll just never see them again. I've played for a certain build before and got to level 60 without seeing the item I wanted even once.
>Also did you properly stand near top or bottom before the bosses spawn so you can drill them optimally with her special? Even with the knockback nerf there's still some milliseconds where they will be out of the circle, which leads to dps loss.
I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't read patch notes or meta stuff.

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>>43492706
Milk is difficult to find so it's worth prioritizing but plushie's very common and it's not really necessary until much later in the run.

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>>43492682
Ame or Mumei because Bubba and Friend can pick exp without you move and they have good moves.
Fauna's awakened weapon can fire many leaves at once and her special lets you heal and be invincible for a while.
Sana's special lets her become giant and the exp on the ground will collected at the end of the special.

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>>43492682
Sana's really easy and it'll get you the 5 levels at once cheevo at the same time, just wait on your special until the first boss is about to kill you and pop it.

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>>43492682
I got it on Amelia and I've seen it done on Sana. There are some others who could probably do it, though.

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I finally tried out the new Ina to see how underpowered she really is. I disagree that she's bad, but I at least understand why people say that now. She's really weak early on. Her tentacle has really pitiful single target damage that only ends up doing good dps when it's awakened and Forbidden Wah is multiplying the damage against large hordes. She technically has built in healing from takodachis, but you can't always chase them down in an emergency and it's possible to die a few feet away from your FATASS. Stage 2 also fucks her because it's much harder to herd the takos into a FATASS without accidentally touching him or taking excessive damage. In my first run I got Shackles early and she felt really OP with all the extra damage from Facemask and Injection. I think that she would actually be really good in endless because once she starts stacking haste and crit the damage from Wah should increase exponentially. I don't really have time to test that theory today though. Overall I'd rate her as meh; she's at least two tiers away from elite, but she's also not a dumpster fire like Shion and Matsuri.

>>43492203
Why? Her book already does that.

>>43492682
Ame.

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>>43493102
>>43493041
>>43492935
Quick question though, if you switch aim does it break the couch potato achievement? Asking since I'm using controller so I might need to change to keyboard/mouse plus enable mouse tracking.
I also saw somekne using Shuba on Hard Mode stage 2.

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>>43492706
>if I don't take items like Milk or Plushie in the first 20 levels, there's a good chance I'll just never see them again
Guess it's just a difference in playstyle between us then. I've never once considered picking ANY defensive items whenever I'm playing stage mode, and even Endless stage if I'm not planning to do YAGOO endurance run. Plushie, Horn, Pillow, those items are the one that I eliminate first whenever I see them appear in my rolls, along with Uber Sheep.
>I have no idea what you're talking about.
Her special deals knockback. Boss will get knockbacked out of the special range eventually. Even though they will always try to walk back towards you it's still a dps loss since the spinning tentacles got some high rpm. If you corner boss at the top or bottom edge of the map then they're guaranteed to eat full hits of your spinning tentacles.

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>>43492706
>>43492773
Milk should not be a high priority item on anyone except Sana. I kind of agree that you take your items while you have the chance, but in stage mode it's a good idea to rush your first collab and be flexible with one or two item slots.

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>>43493376
You're allowed to aim, just not move.

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>>43493597
Milk feels very necessary for Ina, it increases her AO-chan's area, and increases benefits of 4th wah by a great deal.

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I really wish there was a "Randomize stage" option

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>>43493667
>it increases her AO-chan's area
I wasn't aware of that. You're probably right to prioritize it then.

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>did couch potato on the first try with Mumei
You just get milk and Sana's limiter and every exp piece in the screen comes flying to you. Thank you Friend.

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you know, I thought maxing marketing would make stages harder, but aside of like 3 minutes of projectile spam per run it's actually a lot easier
I thought bigger hordes would be more problematic than they are, but they just feed me more XP to snowball

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>>43493659
Got it, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

I've started to notice in the past day or two that the longer the game is open, the worse its performance is.
Is this specific to my potato PC or has anyone else noticed this?

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>>43494771
I've never noticed this issue despite sometimes leaving the game open for hours because the window disappears when inactive.

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>>43493290
I still feel weak even at 20 minutes, but maybe I just suck at dodging projectiles. I am an old man.

Comparatively, I intentionally tried killing myself as Kiara and couldn't.

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>>43495427
Probably shouldn't be taking Energy Drink if projectiles are your biggest problem. Is that the part where invincible microphones box you in? For patterns like that one where the bullets are all fired directly at you the best dodge is to take small, perpendicular steps. Take a big, fast step if you need to create a gap to run through because you're running out of space.

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>>43492682
Sora is so easy to get couch potato with you can do it on stage 1, 2, or 3, with single weapon and halu 5 even.

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>>43495869
I know, I was already hurt and wanted to use my special on them. It's hard to lifesteal enemies when the only enemies on screen are armored ones. And by that point, there was too much shit on the screen and I couldn't really see the bullets anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

I see on the wiki that items have different likelihood (weight) to show up, but what about weapons and skills?

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>>43496148
I think some are definitely rarer than others. Skills are guaranteed either way.

[Anonymous No.]

So stacking Haste on Sana might be worth trying for a laff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43497708
>limiter on Sana
>No Knight milk
Wha?

[Anonymous No.]

>Elite Cooking with +40% hitrate

[Anonymous No.]

>>43497889
Is hitrate the speed of the damage ticks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43497937
Yup
slapped 2 anvil upgrades on it and it's like watching ice cubes on summer pavement

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>>43497887
Ran out of Rerolls and Eliminates waiting for it. Had to go with the goggles by default.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit, I finally did it. If Matsuri and Shion are worse than this, I'm going to kill myself.

[Anonymous No.]

That anon who was suggesting Eldritch a couple nights ago seems to be on to something. This run broke my previous record by about 30 seconds and if I hadn't panicked and blown my special a bit too early I might have hit 40 minutes. I also had some pretty bad luck with enhancements at the end. Stickers were Stun, Usaken, Shiraken.

>>43496148
Plug, Glowstick, Ball, and Fanbeam all feel pretty common. X-Potato and EN Curse always seem to take forever to pop up.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there ever any reason to go above 100% crit? Like super crits or crit resist or something?

[Anonymous No.]

If I wanna do the couch potato with Amelia, what, if any, defensive items should I take?

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>>43500146
Breastplate and Horns,

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>>43500195
thanks

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>>43499685
I still don't understand why you're so married to Energy Drink and Feather.

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>>43500347
Energy Drink is great on Ina, more AO-chan procs and faster tentcle debuffs help a ton. I wouldn't use Feather though.

[Anonymous No.]

I find myself never using the potato collabs
Am I being smallbrained for just dismissing them? They all seem pretty finnicky other than Rap Dog

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>>43500642
I really don't think the haste is good enough to justify sacrificing 2 levels worth of HP unless you're a dodge character. Also Feather rank 3 is right there on your bar between Horns and Membership.

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>>43500887
Rap Dog is probably the best collab in the game for stage and endless. The other two suck, which is a shame since the ideas behind them are so fun.

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>>43500956
I'm not that guy, I'm just saying. Haste is useful on Ina, I can't think of a lot of things I'd rather have instead of Energy Drink on her bar.

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>>43501021
I tried Mikorone on Choco but the charmed enemies don't even spread the fire trail. Would've been fun at least if that worked.

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>>43500347
I didn't see Gorilla or Milk until super late, and by then I wanted Plushie because I thought it'd go well with Horns. Also, others here used Energy Drink and I think it's pretty good.

But my biggest defense for both is that I'm going to die to Nodoka's bullets. I'm not sure how you guys deal with her, but I can't get within my weapon's reach of her without eating bullets, and there's almost no staff on the screen to lifesteal. So I can kinda' dance with her once and then, if I don't run away to lifesteal HP, it's a huge risk to stay near her.

Do you guys stay close to her and just dodge everything? Or do you run when she does the cross pattern attack?

I will say, my Ina runs became a lot of better when I made one change: I intentionally kept mini-bosses within Void range. I hadn't prioritized it before because I was afraid of getting point-blank shot in the face, but in my last few runs I sucked it up and stayed right next to them the whole time, and they usually melted. I can't do that against Nodoka, though.

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>>43502015
For nodoka with Ina, unless I have dragon breath I just move away when she does the bullet hell, then move close as soon as she aims her laser. Enough time to dodge, hit for a while, then move away when the bullet hell restarts. Takes a bit but I manage.

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>>43502188
I have another question: are you using a controller, mouse and keyboard, or just keyboard? Because I just use keyboard.

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>>43502259
Controller, why would you do that to yourself? Mouse support's nice too.

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>>43502015
Gorilla is another one I would never use unless I was doing a Shackles run. How I fight Nodoka somewhat depends on my character, but my default strategy is to keep about a screen's width of distance during the swirls and the criss crossing bullets and wear her down with Bone Bros or Dragonfire. Unless my character has built in dodge I take 1-2 damage reduction items and build up some HP with items or stat upgrades so that I don't get burst down if I fuck up a dodge.

>>43502259
Controller.

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>>43499788
Oh I'm that anon, and happy to help. Here's one of my run with her previously, probably would've get better time if I swapped Horns with Breastplate, Pillow, or Band-aid. Not sure on the interaction between Band-aid and Full Heal though, or whether the heal from Band-aid persists even after you healed to full since I never picked it up.

>>43502015
Congrats on finally beating it. Here's a tip for Nodoka, for the first version danmaku run away from her until you can barely see her arms and the danmaku will be easy enough to avoid around that spot. Second version danmaku is a joke so you probably can figure it out yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

Shop finally maxed. need myth and gen 1+2 to gachi

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>>43502615
Gorilla is what I'd pick for my final item if membership didn't exist. It's just a huge upgrade for a negligible price, at least for players who have unlocked most shop upgrades.

[Anonymous No.]

Any Holo streams today?

[Anonymous No.]

Matsuri is such utter dogshit it actually makes me mad

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>>43504784
Yeah, she's also pretty bad in this game too.

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>>43504981
Lol

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>>43502259
NTA, but I use a controller. 360 degrees of movement + 360 degrees of aiming. It just feels right.

As opposed to keyboard & mouse. Sure, the mouse gives you 360 degrees of aiming. But your character can only walk in 8 directions because there's only 4 keys. Up, Down, Left, Right, and the 4 diagonal directions in between them. 8 directions is just not as precise as the 360 degrees an analog stick can give you.

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>>43501021
I'm Die is funny though.

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>>43499685
I would probably drop Feather, Plushie and Horns for Dakimura, Face Mask/Sake/Milk and BlackSmith Gear/Anvil/Halu.

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>>43501021
>Rap Dog is probably the best collab in the game for stage and endless
Anyone know if Rap Dog debuff stacks with the Flower Stamp debuff or they override between themselves.

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>>43465347
Fuckin' Bae lel

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[Anonymous No.]

Eldritch Horror's description states it may life steal if a fan is defeated "in the whirlpool". Would that also count if a different weapon killed it while it's within Eldritch's range? I only ask because it would be nice if instant kill abilities like Calli's or Ina's AO counted.

>>43500078
I'm wondering if negative crit rates are any worse then 0%.

>>43501021
>the ideas behind them are so fun
I really like the poison/burn damage stuff from this update. Kay must have gotten the idea from when he modified the plushie since it's essentially the same thing.

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>>43511624
Why is her hand so small?

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>>43512548
To make your cock feel massive

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>>43488227
Went and did the challenge with these upgrades, no G-Rank or Fandom, it was pretty fun
Lack of levels really does hurt towards the end and I had to pick bandage in the last minute to fill out some items but overall it's very doable.
With these stats choco horns are almost indispensable for Ina, they're a great source of healing. Pekora's stamp and the stun stamp work incredible together, they freeze huge crowds of enemies, and frozen wine helps with this as well. My biggest problem was DPS, I didn't get the gorilla hand until halfway through Nodoka, and only got the last collab at the start of her fight as well.

[Anonymous No.]

Which holo gets the biggest power spike once you hit Gachikoi with her? Is it Mel?

[Anonymous No.]

Went and did the challenge with these upgrades, no G-Rank or Fandom, it was pretty fun
Lack of levels really does hurt towards the end and I had to pick bandage in the last minute to fill out some items but overall it's very doable.
With these stats choco horns are almost indispensable for Ina, they're a great source of healing. Pekora's stamp and the stun stamp work incredible together, they freeze huge crowds of enemies, and frozen wine helps with this as well. My biggest problem was DPS, I didn't get the gorilla hand until halfway through Nodoka, and only got the last collab at the start of her fight as well.

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>>43512548
all the nutrients went into her boobs

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>>43512135
>it may life steal
Anyone computing the %chance

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>>43518582
The healing rate isn't actually too bad in the later game but the amount is inconsistent and the damage is mediocre, I wish it held enemies up like Gura's vortexes or something.

[Anonymous No.]

Bae is the absolute worst dogshit character in this fucking game and I hate fucking using her Jesus fucking Christ

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>>43520819
Skill issue

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>>43520819
Joke's on you she's my favorite. Those 4x crits are some of the most satisfying things in the game

[Anonymous No.]

The feather is a wasted slot. The slot is too important. Same as plushie now. It used to be an iframe item but now the amount of damage you suffer from not taking headphones instead requires a lot of healing to recover from. With headphones you can rush through a bunch of mobs late game. The same thing with plushie would leave you dead

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>>43520819
I initially did a build focusing on maxxing her crit rate but it didn't work out for me at all. I thought using sake and avoiding hits made sense since her down-under skill stuns opponents. I switched over to a build which spams her special, which meant using piki piki and getting hit on purpose. Complete 180 in tactics, and it worked well enough.

If you do what I did, make sure you get weapons that can get rapidly thrown out by her special. That means avoid BL and spider cooking, try lava buckets, psycho axes, bombs, and cutting boards. The Micomet and flattening board collabs are great with Bae. And you GOTTA get the idol dress. I don't know if any Bae experts would disagree with me though.

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>>43522951
Nice that counter playstyles work too

[Anonymous No.]

Subaru fucking sucks. You'd think her weapon would hit hard given than it's tiny, a single shot, and goes in a straight line but it fucking doesn't. I had milk and couldn't tell if it got bigger. And it even loses power over distance, why? Her skills might as well not exist because if you're at a point where they are being activated you're about to be overwhelmed anyway. Hate to see a character released in this state.

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>>43525126
>Subaru fucking sucks
Subaru is overpowered as hell, just get the plushie along with a healing item, like bandaid or horns, and you're functionally immortal. Don't even need to avoid enemies anymore, can just sit in them. Her respawn+invulnerability means that she'll just continuously respawn and heal up for further hits faster than enemies can kill her.

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>>43525126
She isn't a dps character, she's an immortal one. Think of something like Sora.

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>>43522828
You can use the feather if you're playing an "never EVER take a hit" build. Say you're playing a character that specializes in dodging (Gura, Fubuki, Shion?) and you give her injection asacoco, headphones, and energy drink or piggy bank. In the event that you DO get hit, you've got another chance. Chicken feather's secondary effect to just kill everything kinda synergies with Shion's special too.

[Anonymous No.]

How Bandaid and Plushie interact with each other? Are they make you straight up invincible if you have enough time to regen?

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>>43527173
Bandage has a healing cap of 10% of your max HP every tick so as long as the total damage you took doesn't outweigh that you won't die as long as you don't take anymore damage.

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>>43527062
If you're doing that, you might as well go Hardcore Mode and also take body pillow, since body pillow doesn't take injection damage on Hardcore

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>>43490052
I am ready

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>>43490052
I don't care about the coins, it's the time I'd have to spend pulling gachas.

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>>43502780
Horns feels pretty mandatory to me, but I'm kind of bearish on Glasses after my last run. I had a higher level and way more HP, but you still went 1:30 longer. I also assume haste softcaps itself out of being useful beyond a certain point because of the all the minimum attack delays (I was at around 110% or 120%). I'm going slot headphones into my build and keep aiming for 40:00. Which stickers were you running?

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>>43522828
It should go away if you die desu, unless you upgrade it. So it'll give you a few revives and then frees it's slot up for whatever you want later on.

[Anonymous No.]

Any streams today?

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>>43531749
I'm afraid that might be it for holocure until the next update

[Anonymous No.]

Next update should be faster r-right?

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>>43533234
Mel, Matsuri & Haachama haven't played as themselves?
I'd include Ayame but AFAIK she's never played it on-stream to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

any predictions on what the future characters' kits will be?
>noel and kanata as 'bruisers' (high attack, low crit)
>lamy, marine, and polka with debuff based kit
>botan and towa with crit based kit
>watame with heal based kit
>luna having something similar to miko
>flare with projectile spam kit

[Anonymous No.]

please PLEASE i beg they add a like x2 time mode or something because playing each character for 2+ hours to get gachikoi is starting to get annoying, i just rush a fucking afk build and watch youtube now

[Anonymous No.]

my migochi is a size queen

[Anonymous No.]

So what is the best strat for the time stage?
What affects the spawn rate? Because I kill everything on my screen but the enemies just don't spawn fast enough.

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora live for some time now
https://youtu.be/x1P85CaE1Mc

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>>43533759
Since you're clearly basing it on existing items I gotta ask, why:
>lamy [&] marine with debuff based kit
>towa with crit based kit
>luna having something similar to miko
since their associated references are crit based, coin based, range based & ??? respectively?
I also wanna be a pedantic hair-splitting fuck and point out that Noel's Breastplate seems to more specifically imply a tank (though that's kind of at direct odds with Milk's effect so maybe you're seeing a compromise between both).

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>>43533569
Mel asked on Twitter if people have been having fun with the game and playing as her a week ago so she is aware of the update.

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>>43533759
noel's kit is basically done already what with her having two items in the game already, that shit writes itself
marine will be slow and fragile (rather than slow and durable or fast and fragile which are both common) but huge aoe and likely a knockback passive, possibly picking up alcohol that leads into a charm
polka will likely be similar to bae but likely with an annoying manual aspect like matsuri. guessing her weapon might be random either each swing or in waves like sana's buff.
watame i agree on food, but i think she'll have duality like haachama, likely a sweet and sour mix where she has durable form as "sweet" and a faster dodge form as "sour" to play up how she did nothing wrong.
botan could have a rapid fire main that stops and builds up while she stands still, then releases when she moves similar to aki, it'd release a narrow skillshot line. probably a bomb laying passive skill. guessing a skill that buffs her crit or something the lower her health

desu it's the ID girls that i'm more interested in because i don't watch any of them and can't guess their kits based on what i have seen of them.
olli prob has something like ayame going but with a thick self heal, maybe a revive special like kiara
kaela's kit might encourage anvils or augment non-main weapons, like she hits with her ammo to build metal and then it poops out an anvil or something.
kobo would just be gura again from what i know of her but that sucks and i know kay doesn't want them to be too similar, like i said i don't watch them so i dunno how they'd make that fresh.

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>>43537095
Focus on getting CEO Tears and fan beam for collab, eliminate primary weapon and other stuff you won't pick on each level up, pick face mask once it shows up and other multiplier items (Paw, Hat, Membership, etc). As far as characters go, I personally use Mumei and Aqua, but i think any character can work with that build. Also, since last update, enemies spawn right off screen and not on edge of the map, so after getting collab staying in the middle is the best

[Anonymous No.]

two questions:
1, how do i do 1/2/3/1h to clean up gachikois without killing yourself? i don't need money so halu/piggy/supa isn't really necessary or a challenge
2, what are the best 5fan+5halu 2h girls? after i finished 2h on everyone (mostly without halu) i ran out of things to do. which is reasonable, it had a good run. but i'd like to do some early halu pickup runs to give the game a bit of a tail, it's not out of my system yet

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>>43538415
Halu's main advantage isn't even the coin, but the boost in exp gain as long as you don't level it up past 3.
If you feel like your early game is weak then try to pick Halu early-on

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>>43538494
you either misunderstood me or didn't finish reading. halu is just objectively more difficult at 5, which is why i'm using it as a challenge to give the game more content. i don't need money, everything is bought.

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>>43538415
there's no way around it, getting gachikoi on everyone is very time consuming and gets very repetitive
I fell asleep a couple times and lost runs to that
the big thing is having enough variety to keep your interest
I used the different stages to try different builds; I never did the same build on the same character
picking halu means more exp and the ability to finish a build to see just how certain skills and weapons interact
for me, doing one character at a time produced much more tangible progress than doing singular stages across characters; I'd sit down and finish that character all at once before moving on to the next

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>>43539086
good psychological trick, thanks, i'll try that
finally gonna watch that hbo chernobyl miniseries to it, pray for me the chair stays unkicked unlike that guy in the first scene

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>>43538226
That's what I did & with Watson's early flat 60% damage boost you can kill everything on the screen.
But sometimes the enemies just won't spawn & I got 7-8 minutes, sometimes the enemies spawned really fast & I got under 5 minutes. I don't know it seems random.

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>>43538415
Experiment. I've been using the opportunity to try Injection Type AsaCoco & Facemask on every character to see how they cope with it. Noticed that Sana's planets double when her Horoscope thing triggered Haste during such a trial so I'm gonna trying reaching 100% Haste on her next time too.

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>>43533759
>Pekora
Carrot bazooka, a skill that procs on 'explosions' like Mel's does 'life-steal' (likely called "War Criminal"), something based on her laugh, pure hopium prediction: a FUCKING MONKEY orbiter
>Noel
Mace obviously, close-quarters combat ala Matsuri, expects to get hit a lot so maybe something that converts DEF buffs into attack or healing, I'm thinking Dehya from Gensh but not as shit
>Marine
Cutlass or flintlock-turned-cannon or both, gets stronger based on your HoloCoin intake, I feel like her being a masochistic mesugaki'll be applied... oh shit how about a CORRECTION mechanic??? Receives a buff when damaged by enemies marked by her "teasing"
>Flare
Fire magic I guess, maybe a Skill that procs off of or applies burning effects like MiKorone's, a Skill based on her being an ikemen harem chad all the other girls fall for.
>Rushia
Necromancy, Death metal scream (possibly with an ASMR alt-effect?), Yandere skill, special synergy with the Board obviously.

>Coco
Honestly too many possible routes. I'm just interested in whether she'll gel with Injection. I expect her to be fucking broken at any rate.
>Kanata
Either her halo or more-likely her fists, something based on her getting shitty RNG but being emboldened & empowered by it (see her Blue Axolotl & Sans arcs)
>Watame
Oh geez can you imagine if she throws watermelons that become WATAmelons at Lv7? Almost assuredly a food-based Okayu-esque kit (with exclusive potato chips & soda sprites), something about her being a low-key armit-licking degenerate
>Luna
I like the "sends LuKnights to attack for her" idea from a few threads back, alternatively IDK throws candy unless that's a Skill instead, VERY low HP that hinges on simply not being hit ala Azki, Baby Language 2.0
>Towa
Looooooooooooooong range. Likely an Apex weapon. Tsundere Tenshi talent. IDK if her raspy-ass voice will get a Skill out of politeness but her banger singing voice might.

>Polka
Utter fucking madness. Like Coco I plead the 5th. Albeit cuz I expect it to be some zany off-the-wall braintwister that reminds you of what it feels like to press X as Bae.
>Botan
Gun-toting FPS DPS. Possibly a scoped aiming mode like Snake's Brawl Ult, or something thar rewards/improves accuracy. Unflappable gap-moe Skill, likely named after her propensity for giggling.
>Lamy
Ice magic I guess (shit I only just noticed she was designed to compliment Flare huh?), Crit reliant, maybe crit hits proc a freeze/stop status? Shit actually yeah stops enemies from reaching you and negating Sake. I'm getting Genshin vibes again. Bar Snack Skill to go with Sake. Possibly a drunken stupor form?
>Nene
is my Oshi so I'mma leave it well alone and trust the professional instead of setting any expectations. I'll say a HUSBAND mechanic is essential tho. Be it like Mumei, or Ina, or Choco, or whatever.
>Aloe
I give her a 50%< chance of being added since Azki's kit is all basically original instead of founded on memes & moments. She was a DJ right? AoE soundwave weapon, rhythmic Skills, something Succ-u-bussy, you don't even need to reference the yab.

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>>43540294
I just hope the Dev completely avoid assigning ANYTHING related to Bow on Flare, it's possibly the only thing that will turn her off from the game.

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>>43540870
kay is a thin-skinned goosestepper so he'll do whatever doesn't get him criticized. he only adds things to the game a talent's expense if he knows people will laugh with the talent rather than at her.

[Anonymous No.]

Why the fuck are people telling pegor to get speed ups

[Anonymous No.]

>>43541436
To survive longer during the yagoo phase

[Anonymous No.]

So when the inevitable update releases, how many Holomembers do you think will avoid playing green hair?

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>>43533759
This is more a wishlist than trying to make accurate predictions but there's probably some overlap too.
>Noel
- A playstyle that completely promotes going unga bunga. Increased damage reduction based on number of enemies around you. Deal more damage based on difference between max hp and current hp. Built in hp recovery in one form or another.
>Lamy
- I'm expecting her to be based entirely around "alcohol lol" memes so I'd just be happy for her to get a kit that includes other stuff as well. Primary weapon will probably be an ice shot of some kind, referencing holo alt, but I'm hoping she swings a big ice sword since she likes using greatswords in games like MH. One skill is all but guaranteed to be Daifuku and her second skill will be Liver Face for alcohol related stuff. Hoping her third skill will be either a reference to ASMR or how chuuni she can be at times.
>Botan
- Expecting most if not her whole kit to be based around fps lion so I hope we can get some of her silliness in as well. At the least, having a shopping cart and poi somewhere in her kit is a must.
> Koyori
- Must include a skill that inflicts dot damage or a stacking def debuff to nearby targets that increases the longer they stay within range.
> Chloe
- Gains coins easily but burns through them to power up attacks/skills.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43533234
Ina wants to play it but don't know if she'll actually go for it since her current stream schedule's pretty inconsistent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43533759
>>43540294
>Laplus
Uses her horns? Her chains? Her birb? There's something unique to be done there with the whole shitty supervillain shtick but IDK... does KGS specify negative ITEM effects? Maybe something that turns debuffs INTO buffs at the cost of something else - hapless at first glance, TERRIFYING when built.
>Lui
Again too many ideas. Stuff to work off of: hawk eyes, OL experience, English proficiency, mama energy, the grouchy lil frogmouth fuck, HIPS, secret yabqueen
>Koyori
Throws beakers, in my mind you gotta make it feel like proper mad SCIENCE and go full RNG; different colored beakers with different effects (more dmg, applies debuffs, life-steal etc), maybe a chemistry Skill that lets you combine certain beaker types & lead the RNG to specific ends, also something pervy
>Chloe
Chomps like Mel ("Baku" instead of "Kapu"), puts on the mask and goes kill-'em-all Cleaner-mode for her Special, stinky mechanic (debuff cloud? gains DPS when not healing?), I remember she has at least one M kink so something bullyable, MAYBE a Skill about her bizarre vocal range
>Iroha
A nerf gun the fuck do you think? I'm thinking a DPS somewhere between Ayame & Calli in game-feel. She's still hugely, comically Seiso right? Like, to the point of obliviousness? Something using that, Lll tanookee feller, NO references to ninjitsu OBVIOUSLY

>Moona
I'm drawing a fucking blank and'd genuinely like to know other people's ideas. I know that she's constantly deadpan and AFAIK her gimmick's being the Idolest of idols so something glamorous & haughty & Azki/Kronii-esque I guess.
>Risu
Nuts. Nut projectiles. Nut food drops. Nut powerups. Nonstop Nut November Special. IDK how to adequately represent the sheer debased GREMLIN energy. Speed scaler? Does she dash around stealing enemies nuts & leaving them stunned in emasculated pain? 3rd or 4th candidate for an unexpectedly-gap-singing-voice Skill.
>Iofi
Paint, either brushes or tubes, possible artsy-fartsy colormixing gimmick ala the Koyori pitch, Polyglot Skill, DUMP TRUCKIN Skill (alternatively, she gets Board's AND Ball's bonuses), I wanna say EroFi's a must but FFS I've lost count of how many "is also unseiso" Skills that makes

>Ollie
...Goddammit just do a Charge Rifle, alternatively that sword through her skull, there's potential fun to be had with a self-dismemberment mechanic, possible self-resurrection too like Subaru & Kiara, awwww shit maybe an INVERTED Health bar since she's undead? e.g. she soaks up damage but healing's 10x as likely and HARMS her! Maybe even tie it to Olivia, shit man then there's also her hyperactivity and Apex addiction and chess ability and utter unashamed one-of-us simpery and the WEIRD creativity that comes up with frog toy ASMR & popcat endurance so again there're numerous routes
>Reine
Feather Flechette ala Mumei but culminating in more of a close-range broad-sweep fan like a peakcock, something like the last Botan idea albeit with a kusogaki/babby slant, FAN FICTION Skill (Disclaimer: Spicy)
>Anya
Ironically the one I've thought about the fucking most for the past week. Maybe cuz she's literally a fuckin' knife, would she even need to aim a big weapon graphic when she can just pulsate an overlay? In any case; prime opportunity for a kit that damages enemies that touch you, Skills based on how she's literally fearless and actually Japanese

>Kobo
Water magic? Umbrella shields? Rain dance? CEO's Tears synergy? For such a standout talent with so many notable traits & moments I'm weirdly stumped. Maybe cuz Shion beat her to the Kusogaki concept. Eh just reuse the her/Gura's dodge thing I guess. And maybe an FBI OPEN UP Skill since she keeps changing her fkn age
>Zeta
My brain snaps to assassin blades though I guess James Bond spy gadgets'd work too, I'm thinking something overall Fauna-like that seems sweet & innocent & pacifist but is actually ATK-scaling under the surface, she just strikes me as a lil yandere like that y'know, also something about cats
>Kaela
Hammer, base the main kit around using anvils in a unique way obviously (stats get a perma-buff for every anvil used?), Skills referencing her silent laugh & insane photoallergic grindset, maybe something about the entire family she's schizo'd up

[Anonymous No.]

>>43540870
As in her hair bow or an elf's archery bow? NGL I know virtually nothing about Flare. "Is a pyromaniac" was my introductory summary of her and I've only picked up on the lezz-stacy trait since.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43530637
I was using Shiraken, Usaken and Flower IIRC. The explosions also proc your main weapon effects so once you have 100% Crit it's pretty consistent to get healed by the needle and its explosions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43530323
Well get on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>43533759
Since ID is coming next and my autism cannot be contained I'll post my fanfiction. I like the IDs so I'm actually really excited for the update
Also I play like 95% of the time with solo weapons so my thinking might be skewed towards that.

> Risu:
Playstyle: Marksman with a nut projectile. Nut has piercing and knockback. Passives will be focused around evade, movement speed, and keeping range.
Special: Prisun - Creates an impenetrable jail around her for 8 seconds. Knocks away all enemies from area. Attacks from risu that cross that field gain a significant damage bonus. Mid recharge
Make her synergize with Idol Costume, Towa Hat, Headphones, and her own Piggy Bank item. Four fairly unpopular items that need more love.

> Moona:
Playstyle: Sorta kinda reverse Sana. She's pulling you in, like Gravity. AoE suction with a strong pointblank explosion similar to Matsuris God but smaller and more powerful and applies a stun at the end.
Passives will naturally be focused on damage reduction and healing, also better damage the closer the target is.
Since moona is a fat fuck who likes burgers she'll have a passive that gives her a shield for each external food item she consumes based on amount healed. Hopefully this gives Full Meal and Ubersheep more value.
Special: High Tide - her basic attack on steroids. 3 sec invincibility, screenwide pull and pointblank nuke. Slightly Fast Recharge

>Iofi:
Playstyle: Debuff based character with a basic attack that changes on pickups
Primary Weapon: Paintbrush - melee weapon that hits in an arc.
Passive: Painter. In one of her passives it may cause different cans of paint to drop. Grabbing paint causes different enchantments to the weapon based on the color.
Pink - strong poison DoT that spreads to nearby enemies ending in an explosion.
Green - gives iofi a HP leech effect.
Blue - 1 second stun + knockback with each swing.
Special: Full Color - 8 second steroid. Iofi gains haste, and all 3 colors will be activated for the duration. Slow recharge

>Ollie:
Playstyle: Living Dead tank with limited melee range.
Passives: Zomily - chance to convert kills to zombie minions (Think offensive takodachis / bats) that deal damage.
Living Dead - Does not die when reaching 0 HP. Once at 0 HP she needs to get back to full HP before x seconds have passed or she just completely dies.
Special: Dead may not die - Cannot be activated normally. Can only be activated at 0 HP. Steroid with +ATK HASTE and SPEED. Also with an inbuilt Nurse horn effect with kills giving her health back.
Attacks have a chance to auto-kill non boss enemies instantly turning them into zombies.
Recharge n/a. Usable as soon as HP reaches 0. has a x second cooldown in between activations so that it isn't TOO cheesy.

>Reine:
Playstyle: Wind Based Enhancement / Magic Warrior that can shift between two stances.
Special: Enter / Exit Wind - shifts Reine in between Enter Wind (quick melee brawler with 3x damage crits) and Exit Wind (keep away mage with knockback / lifesteal). Fast recharge.
Passives: Joinda - stat ups based on number of enemies on screen. GWS - Increased Evade in brawler mode, and lifesteal in mage mode. Enhances effect of GWS by removing the special condition and adding +20% crit damage up.

cont.

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>>43545473 (me)
>Anya
Playstyle: Boss Killer Assassin with a narrow melee range. Excels in Single Target DPS (lol I know but bear with me). Has access to 4x crits. Not much in the way of active AOE DPS but has some passives that help
Passive: Parry Dagger - whenever enemy enters within x px of Anya she has a chance of auto-attacking the enemy.
Stuffs - when taking lethal damage. Negate the damage and instantly travel to x px opposite to the direction faced with 1 second immunity. 10 sec recast time (misplays with this passive will be hilarious)
Special: Marked for Death - AOE damage + screenwide slow for 10 seconds. All enemies take 1.5x damage from all sources. Slightly Fast Recharge.
Obvious glass cannon. Stack her with dmg/crit items.

>Kobo
Playstyle: Trickster Avoid Tank, low dps but very hard to kill. Kit revolves around her debuff.
Primary Weapon: Blessing - shotgun style water attack that inflicts a "wet" debuff on enemies. Which slows them and decreases their accuracy.
Passive: Stormcaller - %chance in calling down lightning from the heavens within around 600px range of Kobo scales with haste. Auto-crit (Gorilla Paw hello) and higher chance on triggering on "wet" enemies.
Pendecc - basically indonesian version of gura's short. And another that increases haste and crit dmg.
Special: Raincaller - Healing Rain that gives Kobo a massive shield equivalent to 3x of her max health. leaves puddles of water on the ground. Enemies who walk into the puddles will get the "wet" debuff. Slightly Fast recharge.

>Kaela:
Playstyle: Snowballing / Farming character like Roboco, but based around blacksmithing and money instead of exp. Greed Stamp + Supachatto might be mainstays even in non farm runs.
Passive: Blacksmiths Blessing - +30% flat increase in refine chance, each refine adds +10% attack, down from +20% normally, refine costs are now -30%. Millionaire Grinder - Gain double gold from all sources, bonus stats based on current held gold.
Item Hoarder - has chance to not use up item (applies to anvils, holobox, food), and slightly better chances for super items in Holoboxes
Primary Weapon: Auto-Turret - On Clicking. Kaela Plants down a stationary turret that shoots bullets automatically. May relocate turret with a 1 sec cooldown.
Awakening: Turret has different effects based on upgrade value with a new special effect appearing every 7th level.
Awakening 0 - Turret now also shoots AoE bombs, Awakening +7 - Bombs come out faster and inflict a stun, Awakening +14 - kaela may now place 2 turrets etc.. etc...Cap at 35.
Special: Good as Gold - 8 seconds of strong regen. Gets + xxx flat gold. For 8 seconds all enemies have a higher chance of dropping gold. Mid Recharge

>Zeta:
Playstyle: "Pon" RNG character. High risk, high reward.
Primary Weapon: Agent's Pistol (think ame). Awakening changes it from bullet to beam type.
Passives: Agent Pon - every 15 seconds may trigger one of two buffs. "Agent" - +xx% on stats +evasion% chance. "Pon" -xx% on all stats +exp gain. As you level up the passive the % chance of landing on the "Agent" buff goes higher.
Smokebomb - every x seconds - throws a smokebomb at her feet dealing AOE dps and increasing evasion. Another passive focuses on stats.
Special: Special Agent Zeta: + Haste, crit and speed for 10 seconds. Constantly throws down smokebombs for this duration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43533759
>Kanata has a grab and fling mechanic
>Watame plays similarly to Roboco but with food. Grab food in a chain which will then fuel the Night Fever skill
>Luna builds towers that spawns luknights
>Lamy likes using Sana so they'll have a similar stationary playstyle
>Botan's primary weapon will be a grenade rather than a gun

[Anonymous No.]

playing this game just now beat stage 2 hard with Calli, when i was failing with Irys.
not bragging by ANY stretch but i'm gonna say this now comfort picks are always an option.

[Anonymous No.]

>open the thread to complain about Ina
>half of the thread is already about how bad Ina is
I see.
Well, the biggest sin isn't that she's terrible, but that she's plainly unfun to play

[Anonymous No.]

>>43533759
Imagine this anon is Kay asking us for ideas for ID abilities and quirks

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>>43543968
HOMOBEGGERS SPEED ROUND that nobody asked for
>Miyabi
Flower-shaped explosion/shield/AoE around him, low HP & Speed since he's a basedlet, summons his freakish cryptid drawing to attack for him, designed for Couch Potato
>Aruran
tosses twirling pizzas with weight like Aqua/Okayu, high HP but low speed, zoomer form's either a Haato-ish gimmick or an alt-skin (or Special but I'd prefer a shitpost: https://youtu.be/Vwaq1gqLRUI )
>Rikka
He can canonicallly TURN himself IN to a MOTORBIKE just do anything FFS he's Inspector fucking Gadget
>the short annoying one
swings a guitar, has the kusogaki dodge gimmick (especially synergetic since he always wears headphones), IIRC he avoids girls like the plague so use that
>Kira
I only know the pat-pat meme (easily a healing skill) but he left amicably and's still on Cover's website so he'd be included.
>the one with a katana
I'd skip him but love Mysterious Murasame Castle so honorable mention. Actually hold up that was basically the first Survivor-like, fuck now I genuinely want him on principle.

>Roberu
Throws bottles, applies drunk debuff, cocktail-mixing & I AM WINNING SON Skills
>Temma
Sword, "Knightly Chivalry" & "Dark Knight" skills, something with that lil shoulder-ferret
>Astel
He's a short degenerate FPS alien there's already ton of precedent for ideas pick whatever. He did some aylmao magic in an anime skit, there's his Special

>Shien
Twin pistols, Mafia Boss & Reverb Mic Skills
>Oga
Tanky DPS with no-end of material to draw from for inspiration, basically Rikka but with demon magic
>Kaoru
AFAIK he was hella popular for his short stint so maybe it'd happen, chucks beyblades, spawns cosmetic products, tastefully-named No Homo Skill

>the Zhongli one
He's a transforming raccoon demon again do whatever
>Uyuu
Releases doves? Primarily about stealing shit, speed-based, parkour Skill
>Rio
Ghost orbs, can phase through enemies, floating mechanic, maybe takes Ollie's undead idea
>Gamma
Shit ok just thinking about what he could do with giant comic panels and SFX balloons has me excited to play as him in like 7 years

>Altare
It's taken this long but I can't actually bring myself to care
>Magni
Arms like an unholy concoction of Ina & Korone, Copium & not-a-furry Skills, Magging Time Special
>Vesper
Throws books? find a magic book at Lv7? Fuck I've seen too many boompire clips to pick Skills; there's /out/ stories, tea review, the plastic ball, his boar spear, pantie hoarding...
>Axel
He's a gladiator make up something cool looking and DPSy, just make sure to point out he's a fuckin' idiot

>Bettel
See Polka, but with a big dose of self-harm
>Flayon
Get in the fucking robot Shinji
>Hakka
is an anime ghosthunter with spears, writes itself
>himbo Markiplier
is a brick shithouse with a bow, not only writes itself but "ranged tank" seems like a novel niche

[Anonymous No.]

>>43546893
I like Ina the most so she's the one I play the most.
You can keep your top tier picks that play the game on their own.

[Anonymous No.]

Who would be the WORST character for couch potato?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43547406
I'm not getting the pun help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43547437
Kiara, Azki, Fubuki or anyone else with a keep-moving skill.
Probably Fubuki the most. Speed kit bruh

[Anonymous No.]

>>43545473
>>43545506
Post it on reddit so Dev could see it

[Anonymous No.]

>>43547506
Using Foobs for couch potato sounds like a crime

[Anonymous No.]

>>43547406
>atrocious main weapon
>special only useful in early game and basically suicide against those danmaku spamming enemies Kay Yu keep introducing for some reason
>AO is still a useless gimmick that ends up cluttering the screen and waste a previous skill slot
I'd call you masochistic, but then I remember you're a tako so it's already obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43547437
Any character with a main weapon dead zone will get obliterated early game if one (1) enemy gets through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43547760
>Weapon with enormous area coverage that can be used to stun waves of enemies completely every swing
>Instakill circle that continues to rack up on-kill procs even in the middle of a yagoo swarm 38 minutes in.

Sure the special is a bit lackluster, but it'll carry you through the early levels and that's all it needs to do. I do think she needs buffs and I'm obviously biased, but she's a lot of fun for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43545473
>>43545506
Those're pretty based. I especially like Iofi, Ollie & Gen3.
Is Reine's wind mage thing based on something specific? I thought she was simply an ojousama. Also QRD on Anya's "stuffs" sil vous plait, Googling just gave me a Minecraft stream's title.
...Shit we both forgot Ayunda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43547567
Alright then, I'm using Kurokami.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43531749
>>43533234
Remilia from Phase Connect is streaming it Thursday.

>>43533759
Pekora's main weapon will be some kind of bomb. Either Ollie or Rushia will have an ability that raises defeated enemies to fight for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43547973
Reine is a magical peahen princess from another world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43548104
>Pekora's main weapon will be some kind of bomb
Or even better

[Anonymous No.]

>>43548094
I'll gut you

[Anonymous No.]

>>43546421
>Botan's primary weapon will be a grenade rather than a gun
Ah of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43548149
Lorewise Reine is a magic peafoal princess who specializes in wind magic.
In reality and in games Reine hates magic and likes to just go straight unga bunga, and likes punching everything.
The magic warrior thing was me trying to merge those two

[Anonymous No.]

>>43548202
I'll couch potato you

[Anonymous No.]

>>43548289 (me)
Sorry meant for>>43547973

[Anonymous No.]

>>43538128
Try Rickchama's Abridged series on Youtube. He's a big ID fan.

[Anonymous No.]

Sana Stage 2 Hard beat
I'm really glad I beat it with Super Limiter

[Anonymous No.]

>>43547969
Considering this game is one giant dps check, this is basically a waste considering you're missing on raw firepower. Other characters have those kind of tools too but can actually hit hard.
My main issue with Ina is that she used to make sense, but the constant nerfs turned her into an empty eggshell. Meanwhile most of the characters are broken as fuck anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43541826
If there's not a Cover mandate to specifically avoid playing as her then it's a crapshoot. Even for those who we have a good indication were especially close to her (Marine comes to mind), we don't know them personally enough to discern how they'd weigh the professional risks of doing so in that situation.
If Fubuki wanted to I figure she would even if there wewre a Cover mandate lel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43548601
She never had good dps though, she just had much better sustain because Takos (and choco horns) healed her significantly faster and now they are almost unnoticeable, and don't even scale to your hp. She does better damage now thanks to 4th wah if you focus on area/multihit weapons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43548289
Neat.
And Anya's Stuffs? That just a word she likes using a lot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43548589
>no Milk
Soul.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43548589
Those are some really terrible item and collab choices.
Did you just use your special’s invulnerability to sit on Nodoka?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43547363
>summons his freakish cryptid drawing to attack for him
It would be cool if one of his draws appears as a mid boss in the next updates. It would give hope to Aruran and Oga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43549530
Yeah, once.
I just followed her around mostly, and tanked every bullet in existence because I suck at bullet hells. The reason I got those items is for survival, not damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43549882
Nodoka's pattern are garbage, so that's the way to do it. Trying to avoid the danmaku is just begging to take full speed blue bullets in the face.
I have no idea why you would introduce danmaku attacks if you're going to force players to tank them or just stay out of range. The laser is cool though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43549882
Credit Card 2? Membership 2? Wall Collab? Headphones 1?
How many anvils did you end up getting? If you hadn't gone for the wall collab you probably could've gotten a better set of items, or increased the items you had to a higher level. With her knockback main weapon, broken dreams and even frozen sea, Wall seems like a waste of levels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43550965
Like 2-4 regular anvils

[Anonymous No.]

>>43551068
Seems like those card levels were a waste of investment. Or did you get them from a holozon box?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43552984
I got two cards early after my first collab, and then they just stopped showing up

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/SqxTPL7XxII?t=78
MICOMET GATTAI

[Anonymous No.]

>>43550274
> Trying to avoid the danmaku is just begging to take full speed blue bullets in the face
But that the point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43553260
I think that unless you are also using blacksmith’s gear and/or halu/marketing, card isn’t worth the level investment or the box/level up pool pollution. And even if you are using those other items, I don’t think it is worth it to waste yet another slot on the card too unless it is a super card.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43540294
>>43541902
>>43543968
>>43545473
>>43545506
>>43547363
yikes brother

[Anonymous No.]

>>43554715
Why contain it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43553690
Cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43553907
Speaking from personal experience Card fails to pay for itself in stage and most of the extra anvils get wasted if you pair it with Blacksmith due to diminishing success rate. Blacksmith + Halu is the best anvil combo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43555402
Yes, that is my thought as well.
Blacksmith gets the full anvil increase benefit immediately and is only 3 levels total, which will also increase your collab power too if you want more than just levels.
Halu gives you over a dozen more levels but also gives you more than double the amount of anvils and stamps from all the extra enemies being defeated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43556308
Blacksmith also makes your enhancements 50% better. Card saves you some coins, but that's a non-issue thanks to Greed Sticker. People say that Ubersheep is the worst item, but I think it's actually card.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43475206
The *ONLY* acceptable way holostars be referenced in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43546421
What if Botan's primary is a grenade but one of her passive is literally just auto targeting gun shots and each level she gains a different shot based on a gun archetype. So level 1 pistol shot, level 2 pistol shot+piercing sniper shot, level 3 pistol shot+piercing sniper shot+rapid fire AK.

Actually now that I think about making Botan a projectile +1 character like Aqua could work.

[Anonymous No.]

If Homos are added to the game I will anti Kay Yu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43557961
HE's already confirmed they're planned.
Better get started.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43557961
This was confirmed last year coma anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43558912
>>43559468
Fuck that faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>hard mode
>you literally have to upgrade to the max just to get to like 10 minutes
I HATE HARD MODE

[Anonymous No.]

yay, finally broke 42 min with choco single weapon. had 10 lvl ups without hp gain at the end, sadge. With 800+ I think you can make it over the 42 min hurdle to 44 maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43561224
I also want to petition for crit stat up to turn into crit dmg stat up when you get to 100 % so sad to have 2-3 useless stats when you get past like 34 min.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43561085
Skill issue

[Anonymous No.]

>>43547363
Vesper's gotta have some kind of bike passive, he's obsessed with that shit. Honestly the dude has so much lore and it's only been six months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43561085
Unironically skill issue.

[Anonymous No.]

my holocure launcher isn't updating, what's wrong

[Anonymous No.]

Does Halu increase Boss hp?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43563507
I'm pretty sure it does yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>43561932
That was what I meant by /out/ stories yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43543968
>>43543968
I thought of a good set for Ollie.

Basic is a simple sword melle attack.

Skill 1, Step on me: Gains stacking speed/dmg buff when not on full HP that slowly decreases if healed to full (like a reverse Kronii perfection)
Skill 2, Zombie Idol: If you die you stay alive for a limited time and gain vamp but health quickly drains unless you hit full. (like Sion's passive from LOL but you can live if you do enough dmg)
Skill 3, ALL CAPS: bonus dmg for very close range.
Special: Kureiji mode: big dmg/haste/crit buff but brings you down to 1HP.

High risk melle playstyle, encourages alternate builds to the norm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43541902
>>43540294
I think Botan explicitly asked for her attack to be grenades and the dev has honored any request the girls had so far

>>43547363
Fun ult idea that might fit Oga, Hold down the button stops all attacks while an aura builds like Aki's thigh thing then blast it all out at one like a concentrated Bae ult. Might destroy computers though.

[Anonymous No.]

it feels like there's only going to be so many people added until there's massive overlap in terms of passives

[Anonymous No.]

>>43565188
That's good to hear. Even having a gun in a different form between two characters already feels like oversaturation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43565188
Yeah the poi thing's a no-brainer.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does the launcher fail to update

[Anonymous No.]

>>43565285
I mean there already kinda is and Kay Yu admitted it was going to happen. What matters is for each character's kit to at least make them feel different from each other even if they fundamentally do something similar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43551416
Its bound to happen when eventually there will be 50+ playables and everyone has 1 starting weapon and 3 passives
for starting weapon at least there are still many different things kay can do for later holos

[Anonymous No.]

>>43547363
Is it sad that the only names I recognize are Altare, Magni, Vesper, and Axel.
Everyone else might as well be a literal who 2view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43566382
I did the same thing like 20 minutes ago and almost doxxed someone in their own general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43566452
t. EOP

[Anonymous No.]

>>43566452
They have their own weekly HoloGra short on the HoloStars Channel. Barely a year old. It's where like 3/4s of those ideas are from.

[Anonymous No.]

WHY CAN'T ANYONE FIX THIS LAUNCHER

[Anonymous No.]

>>43565798
>>43567139
Alright. I'll bite.
Can you post a screenshot of it failing to update?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43567235
the same one everyone else is having

[Anonymous No.]

>>43565285
Choco and Mel are already more or less the same character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43565285
This update was obviously testing the waters for more gimmicky stuff being added to the holos' kits so we can probably expect more of that in the future to make each character unique enough from one another.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43567368
Oh FUCK no. I love playing both and they're worlds different. Mel doesn't even have any crit in her kit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43547437
>>43547567
>>43548094
>>43548202
>>43548331
I told you I would do it

[Anonymous No.]

>>43567610
Words can't explain how much I hate you right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>43567610
HOW

[Anonymous No.]

>>43567368
They have heal vs damage gimmick but their ultimate playstyle is different. Choco has Crit Heal=Damage, her main weapon is a Marth tipper of all things, and she's a mind control character. Mel actually has an enemy aggro lure and she's a homing projectile character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43568500
Mel bites to life drain, which sets off her bats. Choco's needles have a drain proc that sometimes activates her Nurse damage. Choco charms enemies, Mel distracts them with cooking. Ultimately you're going to build and play both almost identically as drain tanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43567610
Doesn't seem like she would be that bad, just wasteful. She has a built in 100% dodge skill and a skill that also causes large damage when dodging.
Can see the obvious set up from your kit too, using the Chestplate to both reduce damage but also make it so the dodges do even more damage and headphones to enable further dodging. Her tail attack is also good for a couchpotato as it hits all around and can even summon up extra hits.
The feather is a bit of a surprise though, did you actually use it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43569040
Mel is better for tanking as she has a closer range attack, Choco can tank but it is wasteful as you are missing out on a huge 50% damage multiplier if you don't maintain proper spacing. Choco's heals are mostly just an excuse to deal damage, she's closer to someone like Sora than she is to Mel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43568363
>>43569595
both feather and nurse horns were useless, and you're right, she dodges fucking everything, a boss would stand over me and it would take like 5 seconds to start taking damage.
The most useful thing was actually cutting board, the knockback is amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43569040
Do Choco's converted enemies even distract like Mel cooking?

[Anonymous No.]

THE CHALLENGE CONTINUES!
>Previous time:
37:28
>Current time:
38:55
Goal:
01:00:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0idEzacpYe8

[Anonymous No.]

>>43568318
Words cannot describe how much I want to fuck this bitch.