How much longer can Hololive last in its current state?

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We've reached a tipping point.
Cover decides to go public as an IPO.
An increasing number of girls are hitting 1M/2m subs. Not to mention the meteoric rise of Gura as she hit 4M.
EOPs dominate the comments section of Hololive VODs.
Live chats are slowly being taken over as nobody cares about blending in and leave no place for the Japanese audience.
r/Hololive is the among the most active subreddits and consistently make it to front page.
Hololive Alternative, Holo earth, will drawn an even greater number of ironic weebs who otherwise don't care about chuubas.
How much longer until will it go until it become cancerous? Things WILL degrade one way or another.

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>>43421561
>Cover decides to go public as an IPO.
>second line of his retarded leddit paragraph
>already wrong

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the absolute state

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a-anytime now nijisisters..

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>>43421561
This thread will be reposted verbatim in 5 years.
Nothing will change. Holo will always remain at the top.

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>>43421561
Vshojo and NijiEN are currently imploding due to infighting.
Yet you choose to focus on cover who is doing better than ever?

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>>43421561
Holotalents make cover what it is,cover recognises that very well as long as the talents don't change for the worse it won't go downhill as for what happens in the future we can only wait and see, who knows if we are witnessing the rise of a world shaking phinominon or something that will disappear into the infinite sea of data

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>>43421561
Yup, it's like saying that YouTube or Google as a whole will be finished any time soon. Monopolies can take a good while to finally implode.

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>>43421561
>Cover decides to go public as an IPO.
I LOVE THE STOCK! DIAMOND HANDS! APES STRONG

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>>43421561

JP is doing great. EN is a zombie.

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>>43421561
But they have more Jap fans than ever?

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>>43421561
Fad is already over. Expect to shrink but not disappear.

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>>43421561
Longer than your parents

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the whole industry is declining, but Hololive at the top at the moment, with focus being alive for long term. will be around this year and the next year at least, no matter the decline.

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nijiflop deflection thread

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>>43421561
Lol

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>>43421760
>>43422072
>>43423999
>>43424091
>can't defend
>can only attack their boogeymen

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Ironic weebs are already out of hololive tbqh

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>>43421561
What the fuck are you talking about, EN fanbase the one that is dwindling, actual EOPs in chats are now much rarer than they used to be. Vtubing is dying in the west or at least declining and never will be at the same level as in Japan.

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>>43424179
>i've been found out!

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>>43424281
EN can give a shit but they’re already out because of priorities or the idea that gura represents loli stuff (which is a big no to some EN fags)

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We had anime fansubbers. Then they became official translators. Then the normalfags came in.

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I Would really Love to see this whole board and participants see blood-red Hell and sunk beyond salvation (may include me too) for this God-damned interest taking off beyond any healthy measure

You don't deserve to be anything but their pincushion and the atm's keeping a roof over their otherwise undeserving socially rejected nasty asses


Here's looking at you Holo-whores, double for their Censorship Cuck-chair watching Moderators

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>>43421561
Is not mainstream until Gura has a sold out concert in Madison Square Garden tht is simultaneously broadcasted on NBC and a bunch off very confused news organizations cover the whole thing.

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>>43424822
meds

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>>43421561
Been watching JP and nothing seems wrong.

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>>43421561
>leave no place for the Japanese audience
HoloJP keeps being the powerhouse of hololive, and their japanese audience keeps growing. Their special events easily reach 90k-100k viewers and the merch/advertsiment is everywhere in Japan. If they keep their way of doing things, at least in 10 years or until japanese stop reproducing

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>>43421561
Not much longer, undies are starting to rise up and Nijisanji owns them already

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There's already the beginning of it showing up.
All the OMG GURA IS A CHILD HOW CAN COVER SEXUALIZE HER? is your first warning sign.
Remember investors and managers can be absolute retards.
Look at how they bended the knee at Nintendo, they let the western localizers get away with everything they wanted, now new games are toned down before release.
Square Enix admitted having a western morality council review their work before releasing it.
Capcom plays along with it, all their RE remakes cover up the girls.
This shit is going to hit Cover at some point too.
PEDO PEDO PEDO won't stop, it will just get louder.
Only a matter of time until new investors and managers say you know fuck it, let's do what the westerners want and we never get another sexy loli.

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Phase Connect and IdolEN will take a chunk out of their english market eventually

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>>43421561
25 years

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>>43421561
>Cover decides to go public as an IPO.
From what someone else said, its not a full out IPO but limited to 25% and final approval for being selected is by Cover
>An increasing number of girls are hitting 1M/2m subs. Not to mention the meteoric rise of Gura as she hit 4M.
The rate of girls hitting such milestones has slowed IMMENSELY in the past year.
>EOPs dominate the comments section of Hololive VODs.
Because JOPs prefer Twitter, always has been.
>Live chats are slowly being taken over as nobody cares about blending in and leave no place for the Japanese audience.
Have you even been keeping track of live chat stats?
https://holochatstats.info/
The # of EOPs in HoloJP has been dropping for 2 years
>r/Hololive is the among the most active subreddits and consistently make it to front page.
It IS still one of the most active, true, but it has been in decline since Coco's graduation.
>Hololive Alternative, Holo earth, will drawn an even greater number of ironic weebs who otherwise don't care about chuubas.
Remains to be seen, HoloALT looks promising but we have been fed brief trailers and little else so far. HoloEarth looks like a pisspoor copy of Genshin Impact.
>How much longer until will it go until it become cancerous? Things WILL degrade one way or another.
Things may degrade but not for the reasons you are spouting.

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>>43431497
>Because JOPs prefer Twitter, always has been.
yep. JOPs never comment, like or subscribe. it's weird.

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>>43421561
JP is healthier than ever and they're opening a massive studio in April. They aren't going anywhere.

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>>43421561
This was like, in the end of 2021, English comments on jp streams have been becoming more sparse by the day. Their international audience either feed themselves from clips, or just don't talk/try to talk in Japanese in the jp streamer nowadays. Sometimes I wonder what the girls think of this, I remember a few ones that were happier if people talk in english in chat.

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>>43431497
// end of thread basically

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>>43431497
>The # of EOPs in HoloJP has been dropping for 2 years
Wonder if it's because the JP audience is growing, or EOPs just lost interest

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>>43432294
Obviously latter, in the first place during the time when EOPs were plaguing JP chats the most, the vtubing scene in the west was pretty non existent. Doesn't help that vtuber audience has been declining as a whole in the west.

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>>43431851
It's really sad to see, hope this doesn't cause HoloJP to disengage with the international audience. I always had the fear they would stop bothering with promoting or selling goods overseas, and I have no interest in HoloEN at all

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>>43432983
As long as forwarders exist getting goods will never be a problem, not like shipping from holoshop is any cheaper nowadays anyway.

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>>43432983
I think you have seen that in Marine to some extent, she reached out more to her 'overseas sexy guys' in 2020 and 2021 but they are largely forgotten now as their presence has dwindled while she received a boost in domestic popularity with her Maribako song going viral on JP tiktok.

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>>43431497
there's no such thing as a 'full out IPO'. it's always a percent of stock. Like Zuck maintains 51% of voting shares. r/holove is some weird alternative universe with bad fan art and losers rushing to post congrats on everything (many time duplicating another thread). Fucking wierdos. If you say anything negative you're an anti from /vt/.

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>>43424179
>oh shit they're not falling for it
>deploy buzzword!

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>>43433348
Yeah I've noticed that most don't even bother these days, clippers channels and views seem to have dropped too

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Man, I hope that new cover HQ has dorms for talents to stay for a couple of days
Would work well for workaholic OLs and overseas talents having to record stuff

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>>43433841
That's their moderator being a retarded homobegger and nijinigger. It's not even the "official" sub anymore since everyone stopped paying attention to reddit since Coco graduated.

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>>43431497
Not to mention both holoALT and Earth have been teased since before rushia got terminated and still have no definitive release date meaning we're probably another year off at least and I don't think I've seen anything about any of the en members being a part of either project, so I don't think they'll have as big of an impact in the west as people may want them to.

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>>43427466
>All the OMG GURA IS A CHILD HOW CAN COVER SEXUALIZE HER? is your first warning sign.
right, because gura's loli model has NEVER been a source of twitter seething ever since her debut.