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>>43381910
>allowed
dyrbi

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>63k
GRIM

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

[Anonymous No.]

This is the official "laugh at EN numbers" thread
>I-It'll beat ID for sure!!!
Sub-Iofi numbers for all future 3Ds except Gura

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>>43381927
>Well. I was hoping for HoloX 3D debut numbers
are you high?

[Anonymous No.]

this 3d shit was overrated

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So the takeaway is that JP viewers will tune in for event streams and NA viewers won't. It's as simple as that, even for holos whose fan base isn't primarily JP, isn't it?

I bet if Ina had streamed at the usual 3D live time holoJPs use she would have actually had more viewers than she did now. She would have traded away some of her usual viewers for grey JP tourists, but still. Not saying she should have done that because in the end it's something for her fans, but purely numbers wise JP prime time just always wins because Japanese people will simply show up.

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violet doko

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>>43381993
He is the runt of all of tempiss and he took his chance to try and leech

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INDOGODS STATUS?

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>risu with ougaman got higher numbers then ina
takos.....

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>>43381071
>>43381085
that's capitalism baby

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ENkeks. Apologize to us IndoCHADS.

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>63k peak, 42k like
what the fuck with the ratio????

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>>43381910
They are all allowed in her chat because of the Collab song she did with Axel, doesn't mean they will ever Collab though

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>>43382071
Dunking on nijikeks

[Anonymous No.]

I guessed 65k for Ina, got 63k
other guesses are
>45k Kiara
>55k Watson
>80k Gura
I cant really guess Mori i feel like shes a wild card but ill give her the beneift of the doubt for
>60k min

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>>43381959
Recent clip numbers
>>43249447
>>43249495
>>43249538
>>43249582
>>43249632

[Anonymous No.]

So did Myth 3D just lose to HoloX 3D? Like by a fuck ton?

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>>43381959
Kiara will bring in Marine and Pekora. Easy 70k

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Damn, Triangle's fans really shell out those gifted memberships

[Anonymous No.]

Should've done it in JP primetime. What the fuck. Nijiniggers will shit up the thread now.

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As much as I understand why they have it in EN primetime, all 3D debuts should be done in JP primetime. EN Viewers just don't fucking watch shit live.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine waking up at 4AM for this

[Anonymous No.]

these numbers would be fine if they were the lowest in myth
jesas...

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>>43369421

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I think that one anon was right, the CCV was just being updated slowly so it was reflecting the Star Driver increase during the merch section.

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>>43381939
Or Reddit.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Gura's 3D Showcase is on a Thursday

[Anonymous No.]

Remember when before the cull gura's outfit could get 190K peak viewers? good times
fuck youtube chinks, trannies, roasties whoever is responsible for these shenanigans.

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>>43382071
Enjoying the showcase so far my friend.
Hoping the best for all of the EN girls.

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>>43382071
ID3 will get 3D debut instead of showcase. Indochads shall rise

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>3d "debut" not the debut
>hologra "debut" not the hologra debut (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ3--0NvUa8/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrpz5U6eO78))
Myth...

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I think nijisisters are seething because they can only get a 3D once in their lifetimes while holos could do it maybe thrice a year now

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nijinogs tying ropes on their necks

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homo couldn't help himself

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>>43382154
HoloX 3D is the highest 3D anon. Everyone lost to that

[Anonymous No.]

Okay numberbros, give us your updated predictions for the rest of Myth 3D.

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>>43382154
Debut versus Showcase.

[Anonymous No.]

Let the falseflagging begin. Everyone can go take a look how close most were couple of hours before stream. Quite many

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>>43382205
sir guras outfit was after the cull

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382058
>>43381887

im guessing duringthe full myth showcase, they will be sing individually

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382274
GRIM

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382274
Kiara 30k
Ame 50k
Mori 50k
Gura 65k

[Anonymous No.]

* FINAL 24HRS VOD TALLY FOR 02/17/2023 *
(View growth after 1 hour at end of each line)
>358,337 Kenmochi Toya (ANYCOLOR) (163.5%)
>327,299 Usada Pekora (COVER) (45.9%)
>281,446 NeruMero (Indie) (274.6%)
>225,545 Kazama Iroha (COVER) (54.1%)
>221,468 Aizawa Ema (Brave Group) (31.1%)
>209,954 Aki Rosenthal (COVER) (768.9%)
>174,546 Komori Met (774 inc) (48.3%)
>171,939 Tokino Sora (COVER) (592.5%)
>160,001 Yukihana Lamy (COVER) (255.9%)

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* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>82,391: Marine (Hololive)
>30,999: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>30,598: Koyori (Hololive)
>30,188: Gura (Hololive)
>25,421: Salome (Nijisanji)
>25,354: Chloe (Hololive)
>24,514: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,389: Miko (Hololive)
>21,666: Kanata (Hololive)
>19,412: Towa (Hololive)
>14,312: Iroha (Hololive)
>14,025: Botan (Hololive)
>13,612: Hololive (Hololive)
>13,198: Subaru (Hololive)
>12,839: Lize (Nijisanji)
>12,811: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,682: Karuta (Nijisanji)
>10,554: Furen (Nijisanji)
>10,511: Nui (Nijisanji)
>10,447: Luna (Hololive)

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is wrong with YouTubes view reporting? 31kviews 62k live viewers???

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382198
The rrat that Ina used to be Hololive's Reddit mod before debuting grows in power

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>>43382071
Laughing at the resounding failure of NijiEN.

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>>43382251
Hope he gets berated and has to up his tranny pill dosage to cope. Enjoy your permanent 3view failure status you piece of trash.

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>>43382274
>Kiara 40k
>Mori 70k
>Gura 80k
>Ame 40k
>3D Myth 30k

[Anonymous No.]

I would like to change my predictions
>Ina 60k
>Kiara 50k maybe even 40k
>Mori 70k
>Gura 90k
>Ame around 60k

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>>43382071
Feeling good brother. Can't beat the Indons. Nope. Not the Indons.

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>>43382251
Honestly I don't wanna put an efffort to shit on this guy but wtf

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why the fuck didn't cover do the streams during jp prime time? the EN audience don't watch streams.
Moona's gonna mog the shark for sure

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>>43382057
The takeaway is that there aren't that many EOPs to tourist boost something.
And no shit JP primetime would boost it, look what it did to ID, it gave them numbers they will never reach on their own because the circumstance requires a hard shutdown of JP primetime.

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the fuck is a ramen stopper

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>>43382251
Shot his shot, but I don't get the point, not like she was going to notice him in that chat

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>>43381919
Don't worry when sony finally buy cover stocks, homo will get the boot

[Anonymous No.]

Myth gets culled so much that it isn't even funny anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>sing unravel
>dont unravel
Numbers deserved

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>>43382205
Outfit was after the 2020 cull. Yes, gura got 190k while under that cull.
What we have today is some sort of verification issue that's lingering from late 2021 CCVID, and some sort of actual recline

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>>43382274
numbers? 2 of them will not get gold and 1 of them will get silver

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>IRyS 2.0 reveal: 90k
>Ina’s 3D debut: 60k
GET FUCKED TAKOSHITTERS. You guys were talking so much shit about IRyS’s music but this is karma. I can’t wait for IRyS to mog the rest of the myth whores. That’s what they get for collabing with Tempiss.

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>>43381926
Your own fault anon.
>>43382057
I don't understand why this is news to people, we've seen this behavior over and over again. EOP behavior has more or less normalized now. But yeah, as you said no sense in doing it in JP-time, chasing numbers for the sake of numbers, particularly since that'll just be recycling the JOP fans and alienating the EOPs who do watch events. I'll go out on a limb here though and say that it's possible the VOD might see higher-than-expected growth though.

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>EN #2 (#1 without Gura)
>First ever HoloEN's hyped and long awaited 3D Showcase
>Asked JPs to join
>Saturday night (NA) & Sunday morning (SEA)
>Sang + gacha fanservice
>Still struggled to beat Elira by less than 10k, and couldn't beat Moona
This is concerning for future non-Gura 3D showcases, HoloENbros...

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>>43382392
you guys need help if you think this is actually a smart idea

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The more important question is if Ina's 63k is slippable.

[Anonymous No.]

Koyori is such a good kouhai she's taking the time to shill her EN senpai 3d again.

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I hope Ina gets a refund for those dance lessons because holy fuck

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>sub ID numbers
EN bros...

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>>43382345
Anon, don't broadcast your newfaggotry this hard.

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>>43382071
Thought people will shitpost with Moona, turns out to be Risu instead

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>>43382339
>FEBRUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Marine (Hololive) - 48,323 - Drawing stream
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 36,371 - Pebot Minecraft
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 102,840* - 5th anniversary stream
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 34,140 - The Karaoke
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,516 - Minecraft
6) Marine (Hololive) - 41,228 - The Karaoke
7) Mito (Nijisanji) - 72,930 - Tsukino Mito vs Kenmochi Toya
8) Himawari (Nijisanji) - 57,917 - Honhima king collab
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 28,944 - Hogwarts Legacy
10) Miko (Hololive) - 39,954 - HoloCure new update
11) Gaku (Nijisanji) - 45,052 - Pachinko tournament
12) Mio (Hololive) - 55,820 - SMOK One-Block Minecraft
13) Subaru (Hololive) - 93,949 - Oozora Police 2023
14) Choco (Hololive) - 71,876 - 3D birthday live
15) Toya (Nijisanji) - 38,879 - Hogwarts Legacy
16) Lamy (Hololive) - 54,575 - New outfit reveal
17) Toya (Nijisanji) - 73,934* - Announcement stream
18) Marine (Hololive) - 82,391 - PekoMari mocopi totsumachi

>PER COMPANY
12x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
3x: Marine
2x: Toya
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nijisanji, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
35x: Hololive
13x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
18x: Pekora
4x: Marine
3x: Toya
2x: Kuzuha, Nijisanji, Subaru, Towa
1x: Choco, Gaku, Himawari, Hololive, Koyori, Lamy, Miko, Mio, Mito, Nerumero, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Suisei, Watame, Yashiro

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https://youtu.be/k2qu_5rwF00
https://youtu.be/k2qu_5rwF00
https://youtu.be/k2qu_5rwF00

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i know that everyone made fun of my daughters number for her one year anniversary when compared to her 3d debut
but are myth seriously not gonna beat her?

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https://vrabi.net/video/r8DrUubFFCQ
Choco live
>CCV: 71k
>10 guests
>Had Miko, Subaru, Marine and Pekora
>6995 unique chatters
https://vrabi.net/video/9Cc16ZBW0GY
Ina 3D
>63k peak
>3 guests for a total of like 3 minutes
>13,453 unique chatters

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I wish Kiara and Ame good luck

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>>43382179
They're trying to expand the market overseas, not win a gold race. If they keep everything local, it'll just grow in nipland and not expand anything.

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>>43382147
Wouldn't 80k for Gura be unironically TOO good? I mean, out of all these women, she has 2 (two) 3d lives on her channel. coming just 12k short of her birthday live in a far worse timeslot wouldn't even be a recline.

I'd dare say Ina was on the higher end of possible Myth 3d, even Gura might just be a 60-70k .

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>>43382441
This. Why did she even try. It's a disservice.

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>>43382398
He just likes Star Driver anon, there's nothing more to it

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>>43382274
Kiara 35k
Ame 45k
Mori 55k
Gura 75k

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>>43382325
Wait what about Gura? Did you forget her?

[Anonymous No.]

Will Council 3D debut happen or will it be at holofes, followed by a 3D showcase in 2024?

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>>43382274
Kiara - 40k
Ame - 45k
Mori- 42k
Gura - 70k

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382490
Well, it couldn't have been any lower than this?

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>>43382274
Kiara 45k
Mori 59k
Gura 78k
Amelia 60k
Myth 72k

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>>43382494
All it would take is Pekora doing some kind of meme stream

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despite in NA hours, the chat is still dominated by JOPs

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382441
skill issue

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>>43382395
Expalin Irys 2.0 anon. It was in en primetime and got 90k.

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Ina singing was a debuff

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Give it to me straight. Based on what we just saw can Kiara break 50k next week?

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>>43382392
Because holo en is for western audiences?

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>>43382071
Laughing. Turns out ENfags is just talk. Can't wait to read all the delicious copes.

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>>43382564
Hope there's nothing more to his brain stem after he doesn't get his meds for a week.

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't normies watch streams?

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>>43382147
yea, I can see 80k for Gura and 50k for Kiara, everyone else inbetween...
Nothing bad but nothing good to boast about, just forget Myths first 1.5 year and these numbers will look fine

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>>43381352
>>43381387
>>43381388
>>43381393
Ina puts the most thought on her goods, and actively DESIGNS them in form and function, they tend to bne the most interesting, not the most popular, but the ones you can talk about the most

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>>43382593
Nobody outside this shitstain thread cares about CCV, get some help

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>>43382274
Reminder that ina got 60k due to the haachama shilling buff
If it weren't for her it would've been sub 60k (God forbid)

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one has to wonder how nijishits have the gall to shitpost today

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>>43382564
Fuck off, Flopgon, tweet about it if you want to leech, but don't go into the chat.

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>>43382535
Its way harder to type with one hand while watching Choco's live, obviously.

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>9 PM saturday
>holo v holo already
Come back tomorroe

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>>43382519
Should've used Kobo's channel

[Anonymous No.]

It's kinda weird how everybody else is having fun and being happy you all are in here focusing on nothing but digits. Do you all have nothing going on in your lives?

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>>43382585
>followed by a 3D showcase in 2024?
This one

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sub 70k for that is kinda bad. It's a saturday night too.

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the quality and numbers of this blows the fuck out of nijien and other western chuubas

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>>43382398
When you post in high volume chat like that the point isn’t getting noticed by the streamer, but by the audience

[Anonymous No.]

All I know is, between the daki and whatever the 3D showcase merch will be, the numbers for my wallet are looking GRIM indeed...

[Anonymous No.]

>the spic homo stream in membership throughout the 3D showcase
Is that even allowed?

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>>43382274
my hope was for everyone to beat elira
i feel pretty GRIM

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>>43382574
That's Japan time, so 2 days ago.

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>>43382653
Why are you in this thread?

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>>43382607
>Liver Face
The fuck does that even mean?

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>>43382441
i'm surprised she chose such a hard song but didn't deliver, what's the point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382535
EN attracts more grey names and shitposters

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>>43382251
>the mecha homo
>male to female
> part of the FF clique
anon, just rape the shota. your oshi would want that.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it time to start writing my thesis on the fall of holoen?

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>>43382392
>Moona's gonna mog the shark for sure
A bit impossible when Gura already beat Moona, nijinigger.
You already tried this shit when she had her birthday 3d live. Then you went to cope about "o-only 3k better than Moona". You can't reheat this bait.

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>>43382392
abandon a $35m market. anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>Burgers get shown Ad
>numbers go up
literally mind broken by super bowl ads.
well, can't say im disappointed. (im not)
it was a good showcase, im gonna guess kiara, gura and mori might just sing.
im only curious about what ame is going to do.
like, Ina is a great artist, Kiara can dance and sing (sing poorly desu), mori can crip walk and rap
and gura can sing and dance
what the fuck can Ame, Amelia Watson can show.

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>>43382274
>all of these people doubting the LITERAL goddess of vtubing gawr gura and saying she'll get sub 100k

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>>43382251
Reminder that Ina hasn't mentioned Tempoop ever and hasn't mentioned Holostars since the 10 second cover shilling on her return stream
This nigga LEECHING

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>>43382494
>pekora doing HP
we're safe

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382593
because lives are for fans??? why would she stream it to hours she don't usually stream in

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382655
They're just pretending to by IRyStocrats or ID fans or whatever else works to do Holo v Holo that particular minute, anon, not like they'll ever be able to post under their own colors again

[Anonymous No.]

abysmal superchat numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382653
go back

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>>43382370
>>43382371
>Kiara 40k
LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

Its basically confirmed now

NA primetime is a huge DEBUFF.

Just switch everything to JP primetime

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>>43382039
Gura is Thursday, she will be the lowest

[Anonymous No.]

*YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN TALLY*

>2/18 DAILY TALLY
30,174: Gura (Hololive)
9,418: Amelia (Hololive)
7,985: Millie (Nijisanji)
6,307: Uki (Nijisanji)
6,145: Ike (Nijisanji)


>EN GOLDS FOR FEBRUARY 2023
1) Baelz (Hololive) - 11,133 - Kinoko vs Takenoko
2) Baelz (Hololive) - 17,434 - Ministry Host Club
3) Amelia (Hololive) - 7,974 - Fallout New Vegas
4) Ina (Hololive) - 8,350 - Acessories Reveal
5) Baelz (Hololive) - 10,184 - Sausage Legend (w/ Subaru)
6) Mori (Hololive) - 9,020 - CHADcast (w/ Baelz & IRyS)
7) Mori (Hololive) - 31,776 - Outfit Reveal
8) Mumei (Hololive) - 14,044 - Unarchived Karaoke
9) Kronii (Hololive) - 13,735 - Unarchived Karaoke
10) Fauna (Hololive) - 8,880 - Minecraft
11) IRyS (Hololive) - 8,080 - Holocure
12) Gura (Hololive) - 42,601 - Return Stream
13) Amelia (Hololive) - 9,724 - Unarchived Karaoke
14) Mori (Hololive) - 11,194 - Unarchived Karaoke
15) Mori (Hololive) - 31,781 - Myth Offcollab
16) Fauna (Hololive) - 11,754 - Minecraft
17) IRyS (Hololive) - 12,370 - Unarchived Karaoke
18) Gura (Hololive) - 30,174 - Reveal Stream

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
4x: Mori
3x: Baelz
2x: Amelia, Fauna, IRyS, Gura
1x: Ina, Mumei, Kronii

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
24p: Mori
21p: Baelz
17p: IRyS
15p: Fauna
14p: Mumei, Amelia
12p: Ina
10p: Gura
7p: Kronii, Vox
5p: Kiara
4p: Vesper
3p: Uki, Luca, Magni
1p: Mysta, Millie

[Anonymous No.]

lap had the best unravel, shame what happened to her
https://streamable.com/xhefqb

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382585
will probably come out sooner like marine and flares

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382555
I can see Gura getting as low as 70k due to 3D lives sure but I trust in the sharks tourist pull.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382441
Nobody wants to look bad after Kanatan made that song hers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382585
I'm guessing Council will have their idol outfit debuts at Holofes and 3D showcases later in the year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382699
Pretty sure it isn't otherwise the JPs would do just that

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382345
Why are you so new here, just fucking leave newfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382494
It is. Kuzuha apex with hal and hikakin collab can challenge it probably

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382392
Shut the fuck up nigga, its one thing to say "It'd get bigger numbers in JP primetime!", it's another entirely to actually believe or even ask for it to happen, when the entire POINT of EN is to aim for the NA+EN audience. Shit's been fucked due to a lack of ability to DO any big events, so you need to rebuild the utterly collapsed audience from the ground up, and that takes TIME, EFFORT, AND EVENTS nigga.
Running off to JP primetime would be the equivalent of 'throwing in the towel' and abandoning the lucrative NA market.

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>>43382710
Lamy's face is a liver.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382251
as long as this doesn't get homobeggars going I wont shit on the slipup.

[Anonymous No.]

>holoEN cant break new peak ccv records anymore
its over..

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382274
Kiara, Ame = 50k~ but if Kiara doesnt have the boring stuff and just perform althroughout 60k
Mori = 70k if she brings in suisei
Gura = 70-80k, but probably lower coz it's thursday

[Anonymous No.]

>people who claim EN showcase will get better number if they were on JP primetime
Were they right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382710
Nijispy watching ina

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>>43382705
I enjoy the dog race but I don't pretend that the company should be caring about 100% CCV maximilisation. The other anon mentioned it but the point of a foreign branch is to cater to the foreign audience. That means putting big events like this at a time for that audience rather than going "well we might get 30k more CCV if we do it at JP time when all the EOPs are asleep and JOPs are awake"

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382626
Kek, won't even break 40k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382699
What's that gonna be, 100 viewers? Who cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382770
>why would she stream it to hours she don't usually stream in
Why did she then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382615
All those dance and singing lesson for nothing....

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLnW6BU9zVo
>salami announcement
>it's not the "good announcement" kanji
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh bros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382691
HoloEN is dead anon. People need to stop pretending they're still in 2021. HoloEN at the moment is roughly comparible to Gen 4 JP in ability yo draw viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382710
Lamy's "catchphrase" (the one she uses when she's joking), meaning lost in translation

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara will have the lowest numbers because she's shown her model the most alongside Mori, the only new thing that people might tune in is the the ass buff

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382801
she unraveled alright

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382105
>he doesn't know about the ccv and vod cull

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382787
>2023 EN GOLDS

>PER COMPANY
31x: Hololive
16x: Nijisanji
2x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
5x: Mumei, Amelia, Mori
4x: Baelz
3x: Mysta, Ina, IRyS
2x: Vox, Selen, Pomu, Kronii, Fauna, Gura
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana, Millie, Luca, Regis

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
46p: Mumei
38p: Ina
33p: IRyS
32p: Fauna, Amelia
29p: Baelz, Mori
26p: Vox
23p: Mysta
17p: Kronii
14p: Luca
13p: Selen
12p: Kiara
10p: Pomu, Gura
9p: Millie
8p: Ike
7p: Regis
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Finana
4p: Enna, Uki, Vesper
3p: Sonny, Hakka, Magni
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382726
>male to female
anon? he's still male, wtf are you thinking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382699
Different branch who cares?

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.tyoshiki.com/entry/2023/02/18/102226

[Anonymous No.]

HoloEN especially Myth is destroyed. But this 3D showcase will be the beginning of the rebuilding of their brand. I am optimistic they will incline again if they capitalize on this. But then, they tend to waste opportunities by lazing around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382626
Ehhhhh
EHHHHHHHHHH
Doubtful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382585
No way they don't get it this year. Clear up the docket and jazz

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382370
>Ame 40k
LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382626
1/3 of Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382655
>Discussing holos
>b-but nijis!
RENT FREE

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382701
join the club bro
And that's not even taking into account the 10.5k yen cover is asking for the new paid stage shows

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382816
post hand

[Anonymous No.]

Should be easy ina gold unless marine later does some kind of collab buff stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382781
Oh now you are begging for JP tourists?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382908
>Different branch who cares?
Cover.
Which is why the girls had to stop for the homos showcases

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382884
She will have the lowest numbers because she's the least popular member in the branch along with Bae. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382608
Did her throat get coarse from all the smoking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382875
3D SALAMI
きtら

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382699
I don't care if the Stars stream over Hololive events, in fact I'd prefer it if they did.

[Anonymous No.]

>Ina 3D ends
>Delu gets 1k extra ccv
Saviorfags out in full force today

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine if gen5 didn't lose their best singer

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382884
???
Literally Mori, Watson, Ina and Gura have shown their models more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382392
Contrary to what this thread would lead you to believe, holos actually want to stream for their fans.
They would rather stream to half their fans than a third of their fans + a ton of tourists that don't care about them and are only here for the event.
This is why holos love member streams as well, at least some of them. It's not all about numbers, it's about them giving back to those who support them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382747
She's going to have a virtual shooting range is my guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382392
Psyops. Nijisis want Holos to move to JP time because they want it for themselves... Being abandoned by their b2 fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382884
3D KFP, 3D restaurant, Live Do U dance
Kiara can do a decent showcase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382649
Yeah, ok maybe why not, but let's not pretend this one wasn't just for her use first and foremost

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382898
transitioning like kronii, but reversed

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382469
Sister….., get better bait next time, ok?

[Anonymous No.]

There's too much random merch lately. I liked when it was just birthdays and anniversaries

[Anonymous No.]

wait. why is nobody talking about finana new outfit? it happened today also, no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382287
>>43382443
So assuming a 50% cull her outfit was actually close to 400K thats crazy

[Anonymous No.]

Takos are actually trash

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382914
image board?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382519
No Mori, don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382961
>sub 60k
>Sunday Gold
Yeah, good luck with that

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382655
Where are the other 21k from her 3D debut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382996
https://files.catbox.moe/60t5iq.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382810
They did actually

[Anonymous No.]

I believe we can now agree IRyS > Ina

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382710
fucking newfag enshart

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382699
Didnt Fauna have to end her members for Tempiss?

[Anonymous No.]

>time to start using like cope, view cope, chatter # cope, chat speed cope
Like clockwork

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383070
anon that's almost 9 thousand dollars what are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

here comes JP primetime cope begin...

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383061
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383047
Quality of a stream has little to do with the noombers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382585
Between Holofes and HoloENconnect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383070
Takos were trained not to superchat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382647
only way Myth wouldve gotten 100k's is pre-holofes showing or maybe even shortly after holofes even but its been too long now. Amelias outfit back then pulled 74k in December 2021 showing how much pull EN outfits even still had then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382773
Any IRyS fan knows Myth has had way too much spotlight, resources, and promotion devoted to them when accounting for the overall lack of talent. It shouldn't be surprising that there are people who are legitimately happy to see a Gen they view as massively overrated to so massively underperform.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382469
NIJI EN doko?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383070
Doesn't ina train her viewers not to member/supa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382585
maybe they try to do it sometime summer so they can also record 3D lives for their anniversary
too much copium?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383098
We won't know until Irys' 3D debut

[Anonymous No.]

FAT FUCK WAS BRANDED (C) COVER ON HIS FAT ASS

[Anonymous No.]

Holobros… not like this…

[Anonymous No.]

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>Virion Kisei https://twitter.com/virionkisei
>Sellena https://twitter.com/anelles_
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>RoaFen https://twitter.com/FenThePixie
>TsukimiLune https://twitter.com/TsukimiLune
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff
>Issei Kai https://twitter.com/isseikaich

places to end up for these streamers include
>NijiEN Gamers
>HoloEN3
>Phase Invaders/Phase Connect third gen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUfwFZEICs

Other notes
Tsunderia Shuts down https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1618443736622501888
VReverie's 2nd generation of VTubers are now open https://twitter.com/VReverieLive/status/1619154341411315713
Tomopulse disbands https://twitter.com/tomopulse/status/1620192296099794944

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382626
Depends who she brings on? I mean if Pekora and Marine starts retweeting it then they probably will be on but i think so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382884
>Kiara will have the lowest numbers because she's shown her model the most alongside Mori
No she hasn't.
It's Mori>Gura>Kiara=Ame>Ina in terms of showing it in legitimate 3d content that made an attempt.

It's Ame>Mori>Gura>Kiara>Ina in showing it in any 3d enviroment with Ame being a spammer using it in low tier streams as surprises or zatsus. There was an entire drama with Myth grumbling that they can't use their 3d because Kiara was still hogging the "w-we'll debut any month now" ball a year ago and they were getting cockblocked from showing home 3ds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383058
3D debut always has merch, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382938
GET FUCKED NIJIKEK

[Anonymous No.]

Totally organic Holo vs Holo, amirite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382392
I hope you haven't been brainrotted into thinking the CCV counter matters the most of anything in the world. It's nice to get big numbers, anon, but Ina's actual fans watch her in NA times. The ones who buy her shit, member her, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383117
>anon that's almost 9 thousand dollars what are you talking about
Maybe 10 fucking years ago, it's $6k now

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383174
>this is how tako ends after ina sits on him
lucky fat fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382585
didn't mumei talked about returning to japan this year? maybe its for the showcase?

[Anonymous No.]

Was this 3d showcase worth waking up at 4AM and destroy your sleep???

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383157
Ironic coming from a fan of the princess who has the company pay for all her shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine if Senchou manages to yoink the gold today as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382884
That's not the reason she'll get the lowest numbers. kiara will get the lowest 3d numbers because she's the runt of en.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382535
EN is culled twice as hard as JP

[Anonymous No.]

Did Ina's forgetting-her-phone-at-home for 3 months impact her CCV? Maybe regular viewers are willing to forgive her but regular people don't tolerate that and probably moved on

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383117
Try $6500

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383049
both of them aren't yugo anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382884
Kiara has a big ass and can dance. I'm more worried about Amelia, she can't sing, she can't dance, her main thing is "creativity", but not the fact that Cover will realize all her ideas in 3D debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382884
I guess she still has her weapons and her room...

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382655
PARASOCIAL FUCKS

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383225
they've been doing it since the start of stream (if not earlier), it's all so tiresome...

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383174
slave-branded....

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382816
they don't put "time nor effort" into their streams nor plan "events". they don't even stream. it's their own fault their branch is dead

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383070
Anon genuinely stop believing what goes on in JP land is the norm in the world. Those viewers are genuine losers who unironically have no hope in life and spend their entire day working and throwing their life savings at vtubers and anime figures. Please, genuinely seek help if you think they're a great representation of normal people in the world

[Anonymous No.]

What did Luca and Finana get? i wasnt paying attention to here until now.

[Anonymous No.]

top 10 Holo/NijiEN

HoloEN
x1: 2020
x8: 2021
x1: 2022

NijiEN
x10: 2022

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383164
>Doesn't ina train her viewers not to member/supa?
Pretty much. Typical western EN keeps forgetting that vtubing a business

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383203
Well Pekora won't be in it. Kiaras Twitter space made that clear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383233
>>43383273
Boy the yen really fell huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383174
just sand it off

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382655
now see anontachi, THIS is what a dead branch looks like

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383174
>Cover corp tramp stamp
That flat purple fuck, how shameless

[Anonymous No.]

PekoMiko hours right now trying to catch that juicy funnel although Miko is fucking late

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383081
It's an essay about niji and holo about their finance

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382724
>>43382535
Ina's members in chat: 4k
Choco's members in chat: 568
Ina's all numbers overwhelm choco's numbers except CCV.

/#/ should do something again to fight to cull like we did last year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383133
Is that why her ccv boosted during shill time? That they would rather buy merch than supa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383324
Obviously gonna be Subaru.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383260
>Holo beats another holo for a Gold
as a holofag this makes me seeth!! IM SO MAD!!!

[Anonymous No.]

Give me an argument as to why ccv matters more than vod views after let's say 3 days.
Especially for non-JP vtubers whose viewers aren't all in a single time zone, why wouldn't you care much more about the total vod views after everyone out there had the chance to see it no matter where they live compared to ccv, when a lot of your fans are asleep or at work around the globe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383200
>Castella Inomori
July 30th
>Melonbread
July 23rd
>Selkie
October 16th
>Sellena
December 30th
>Usami
September 27th
>>RoaFen
January 6th
>Etherna Celine
July 27th
>>Etherna Helen
July 28th
>Makoto & Akira Misaki
November 6th

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382655
There's no way... a big corpo outfit reveal and it's sub 13k....

[Anonymous No.]

How do (You) feel about the fact that not a single EN will ever reach 100k ccv on a stream again unless it's a graduation stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383311
stop living in the past. the EN branch is dead and it's their own fault for being such lazy whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383310
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383270
>Did Ina's forgetting-her-phone-at-home for 3 months impact her CCV
No, you need to stop letting shitposters in these threads color your idea of what real fans think.
real fans don't spend months crying that Ina implied watching girls play GG Strive makes them asocial
real fans don't cry and shit their pants that their oshi took a break (both Ina and Gura). Ina literally came back to the exact same numbers. Her ceiling was always weak, all of EN except Gura's is and Gura still gets shat on for having weak ceiling to fame ratio

[Anonymous No.]

so you telling me wawa will get more viewers than inner

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383047
>Chicken singing voice
Sub 30k incoming

[Anonymous No.]

if EN3 happened right after Holofes, what # would you expect for debuts ?

[Anonymous No.]

so fat cat for gura, probably marine, who else?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382781
Why? To gain a few k of JP tourists that will watch JPs only when given the option? In exchange for losing an EN audience that your branch was made to target? Good thing the anons in this thread don't run a vtubing corpo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382610
I know you have been shitposting to bait people to shit on Irys, but I will bite
>Started closer to EN Primetime than Ina.
>Well advertised and as hyped as a 3D Showcase
That's about it. Starting closer to EN Primetime likely helped with attracting EN tourists and chumbuds. Just look at Irys's chat overlap: 32.5% of her chatters were chumbuds (or in Gura's stream), yet none of Ina's top chat overlap were in Gura's stream recently - with Gura doing a reveal stream just yesterday. Fairly reasonable to assume that there were fewer chumbuds in Ina's stream than Irys's, probably due to the difference in starting time

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382859
Working hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382607
It can be due to her JP-only stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383411
I can't because it literally doesn't matter even in the moment. It's a meme metric for twitchtards to derive worth out of muh heckin hours watched bro!

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382691
hololive lost the chink audience and chink ccp shills occupy youtube and twitter so go figure the rest. It's not a coincidence that the first cull happened a few weeks after the taiwan yab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383311
I find it hilarious the top numbers for NijiEN is from Iluflops, their worst gen ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383311
Fucking insane how Risotto still has the highest NijiCN CCV record.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383270
>regular viewers
>regular people
Regular people likely don't even know or care. Regular viewers would more, and she came back to basically her usual numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383310
Both garbage
Finana 12.9 outfit reveal
Luca 7.6k return stream
Safe to say the EN market as a whole had reclined.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383411
the live race is just more fun, it really shows how powerful some girls are to make people change their daily schedule to watch the stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383203
>Pekora
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6WxNzNgzxk
Kiara her permanently ruined her chances with Pekora by acting like a sperg. So as of now Marine and Subaru are the only first army she has access to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383435
Hoping for Akutan but she might spill to much spaghetti to be there. Maybe Zion?

[Anonymous No.]

Your predictions
Gotta admit, kind of a miss on this one
Also some of you guys need to stop betting your balls because that's at least 4 pairs you owe by now

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383323
Anon she's an illustrator in demand. She is one of the few holos that DOESN'T and didn't need Hololive to make a good living.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383428
a 3 month break will definitely have some effect

[Anonymous No.]

nijisanji pick the wrong strategy, look at how irys sabotage elira 3Ds. that's how you play the game

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383311
Do you have top 10 Ina's CCV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383435
Well, we know who Gura would want (okayu, marine, shion, aqua) but the question is who was available

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383411
This is the CCV thread, nothing is as important to this thread as that.

If you want to talk about VOD views and shit then Filian mogs everyone out of the fucking water with her VR chat shorts that are worth $1 for every million views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383495
they debuted during niji IPO bot scam

[Anonymous No.]

well, i jist learned what a ramen stopper is.
>it's just a bowl cover to keep ramen warm
it's like pic related but for ramen bowls

[Anonymous No.]

Btw anons, why did the ccvid only affect hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383448
let's face it anon. the EN audience already left last year.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy numberfag incline

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383411
because being a 30k streamer is more of an achievement than having a video of 300k views which even a 50k subs youtube channel can get.....
they are streamers not youtubers, even twitch deletes the vods because it doesn't matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383260
Whats she doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383297
>implying the western viewers aren't exactly the same losers

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382914
Why are you linking the blog of a moron?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382610
I don't have to "expalin" shit you nimrod, I said JP primetime would be better.

Irys had a bigger buff (never before seen redesign vs old and busted for over a year 3d) and reached pretty much the same numbers as Gura's NA primetime 3d live.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIaTI20gkXw
beware this

[Anonymous No.]

why are they all so low still?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383511
Just because her normal streams get comparable numbers doesn't mean that the people who would normally only dip in occasionally are still interested. Her numbers today were very low.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383575
its actually fucking terrible

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383569
why does this exist? just use the lid bro

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

This place had INCLINED

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383567
I thought Filian got rekt by shorts algo changes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383474
nah, JP tourist will came if it's 3D

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383434
100k
>b-but
100k

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383434
100k
Because it will be the first mixed gen in Hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383434

depending in the designs and theme
>no hype
less than 40
>meh
40-50
>hype
50
>really hype
60+

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383588
Cope, Covers financial report disagrees.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383550
>Irys fucked her own number up to drag Elira down
>That's how you play the game

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382274
did ina get 10k everytime?
did ina get 20k a lot?
did any myth get 5 digits everytime?
did Ina just made tweets for 2 months instead disapppearing for 3 months?
did ina got 194k first outfit?
did ina got 115k second outfit?

did Ina is the one who lead vbtubing in the west?
Did ina, Luxiem, indog or any nijinniger is Number 1 subscriber ??

>Gura +100k
>Guest: Marine
>Posible guests: Aqua, Shion, Okayu, Miko and Pekora
Also please stop posting a cut concert with 41 minutes plus anime movie = 48 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383522
I predicted 60k-70k range. I was pretty spot on. Kiara would be 50k, Ame 55k Mori 65k and Gura about 80k. I can see gura getting like 79,999 meme just missing 80k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383435
maybe Chloe, they are forever glued by Umisea after all also Shion is another easy pick

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383354
overslept, that's gonna screw her. Also its hell overlap, she'll be lucky to get 15k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383588
Anon? Cover doesn't even agree with you. They're entertainers, not streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383632
I'm speechless ngl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383575
Take me back to the old days before this thread became seething newfag central...

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383070
I would rather buy merch than supachat tbhdesu

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383431
Who is wawa?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383519
Oh fucking rip......

[Anonymous No.]

>every other place
>EN getting 3D and having fun with guest, happy
>/#/
>I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE LOST TO INDOG, I'M DEPRESSED

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383632
THANKS irystobuds, even kaela gave more tourists...

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383632
what's wrong with irystocrats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383617
Ina broke Neals toys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383632
Kaela is now EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383411
Much easier to refresh boost a vid's views without being noticed if the viewers bother to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383311
>NijiEN peaked with iluna/noctyx debuts
uh....

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382274
i fear the thursday debuff for the shork

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383675
>first mixed gen in Hololive
1 holoJP
1 holoEN
1 holoID
1 starsJP
1 starsEN
1 starsID

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383687
sabotaging 3D debut is more important

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383588
>they are streamers not youtubers, even twitch deletes the vods because it doesn't matter
What the fuck is this logic. Literally "twitch retarded so their retardation should be youtube standard".
They're fucking youtubers. Streaming youtubers or not, views are their bread and butter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382535
>>43383371
Neal doesn't want to count third worlder as views to cheapskate on ads

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383045
exactly

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383435
Suisei.
She's the one Gura had dinner with btw

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383595
Western losers are throwing their money at flesh streamers and onlyfans whores instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383519
Ina should have gotten Marine to come to her 3D, would have gotten a numbers way up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383244
she said in the summer at the earliest

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383627
i guess it's so you can close it more securely?
sometimes you close it normally and some heat leaves because it still has a gap for steam to escape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383607
Nigga please. Ina’s and myth’s 3D are super hyped and shilled by everyone with almost a year of anticipation. IRyS’s 2.0 was only shilled by IRyS and was announced out of nowhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383567
Short views aren't real views. Literally YT does not treat them the same way as VOD views so dunno what this dumb ass argument is about

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383411
It matters here because of horse race, stop coping already

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382699
proofs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383632
>EN
>Kaela

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383771
Welcome to the numbers thread newfag, you can post your cope here

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383520
after what Aqua said today I'm expecting we'll hear from her next update (in 3 months)
>oh, Gura's 3D? I could have appeared
>but I decided not to

[Anonymous No.]

ok, but 17 is still the best number

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383632
IRyStocrats...

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383575
This thread is literally where Holofags, Nijifags, and small corpo fags go to duke it out. Not surprising.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383573
There's a lot of them stayed though. Like, most of them, actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383434
They better debut them soon. They dont control YouTube might as well get them in before the site impose any more rules, nerfs, etc on the algo

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383519
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383428
I'd argue it's the real fans that complain and whine the most. It's the casual fans that don't care about anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383787
>now

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383822
>She's the one Gura had dinner with btw
Source next thread?
I'm just gonna pretend it happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382772
Kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383771
And yet here you are everyday lurking this thread instead of your hugbox. Your mental illness isn't other peoples problem. Numbers discussion is numbers discussion whether it's positive or negative.

[Anonymous No.]

that FGO gacha idea to bring in guests was pretty cool, I wonder if you could've just used generic tokens instead of drawings and gotten some kind of gacha pulling peak

[Anonymous No.]

This doesn't make sense the livestream was really good, the times are fine but the CCV is low.
This means that no matter what EN does the original CCV will never come back because the west has been culled and the culture has been tainted

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383948
Nah, casuals also include the beggars.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383632
So she got no JP tourists?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383070
We just got their financial reports and people are still trying to talk about SCs like they matter.
Anon, Hololive is a merchandising and sponsorship corporation with profitable side hustles in streaming and SCs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383569
Pretty cool, huh?
The Japanese unashamedly make some wacky things

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383519
Aqua likes her because shes a loud whore and Aqua likes loud whores, however Aqua never streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383632
Are Irystocrats and chumbuds the most anti-unity EN fanbases? (their splits reflect this too as much as they want to claim that they are raided frequently)

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383435
Why didn't Marine show up for Ina's?
She dragged her to her 3d live, why not return the favor...

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383907
I missed it, what did she say?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383632
>hoomans
>braats

yea the 2 most unity fanbase and fuck irystocrats i hope your oshi will have a karma

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383260
I mean, she's a pirate, plundering gold is her job. It'd be kinda sad if she was bad at it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383771
you dont take this place seriously anon, its literally the designated shitting thread which is where its fun comes from the type of shitposting that happens here literally cant happen as freely in other threads usually.

[Anonymous No.]

how do we stop /#/

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384015
>>43382607

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383151
Speaking of outfits, anons are talking about Ina having the second strongest EN numbers potential now, but isn't she traditionally second last for the outfits? I know Gura and Mori are typically first but can't remember if Ame usually follows them or Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383983
people got bored and left. You gotta strike while the iron is hot, and its cooled significantly. Japanese businesses just move too slow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383918
EN audience are Koreans and SEA now.

[Anonymous No.]

i blame Australia

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384089
It's too late.

[Anonymous No.]

Mito 20k playing Troon Extermination

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382875
She can easily mog Ina if her subs are not dead.
Maybe her contract is over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384050
Because she's going to be in Gura's? The fuck kind of question is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383771
It's because everyone here is lonely. The more people that show up to "thing" the more friends you have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383771
Anon this is the thread where you vent your shitposting and then scream GO BACK TO YOUR HUGBOX if someone tells you to chill out or stop being such a miserable cunt of a human being. Don't take it seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383975
If she had a lot of guests it would have been hilarious to have a small skit where she tries to pull them all and keeps going crazy the more dupes happen and throwing their models in some sort of glue making machine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383632
You now realize that IRyStocrats are some of the biggest tribalfags and don't watch other Holos based on how much they complain. You now also realize not all the shitposting of her numbers against other Holos are flaseflags

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383632
>IrysTourists

[Anonymous No.]

EN don't watch streams anymore, they just watch clips and buy merch, they are useless for /#/

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383952
I forgot she was Kouncil. Youre right

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384015
Anon
>>43382607

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383983
>the culture has been tainted
You can thank VWhorejo for ruining western vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

>buying 1 piece of merch and SCing the rest of what you were going to spend
>Dont SC and buy the merch x10 with what you were going to spend
So which one is better? SC'ing literally takes 30% out of cover's pocket and gives it to Susan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383569
>>43383627
Isn't it so you can keep the lid shut for the 3 minutes after you put in the boiling water?
I dunno, I haven't eaten instant ramen since college, but I remember using a saucer

[Anonymous No.]

Jwu, what was ina's peak?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383983
The stream was fucking boring and formulaic.
People off doing things that are actually interesting to them in their free time rather than just watching minor permutations of the exact same thing over and over out of some perverse obligation to Anime Girl #24653
Not watching stale content doesn't make you a bad person

[Anonymous No.]

Mito is beating both Peko and Miko in the same game.
Is this her first wizard stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383866
Marine is coming to Gura's, it's guaranteed

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384130
I am neither, and I am their audience. They should pander to me.

[Anonymous No.]

Lets just face it bros. HoloEN is dying. Vtubing in the west has proven to be a fad yet again. Numbers will only get worse. We will never relive our 2020-2021 glory days.

[Anonymous No.]

we can always talk about how friend is the least sexy member of 2 different gens

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Ame and vesta had sex last night

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383822
Yakiniku?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384163
??
Who says she can't be in multiple 3d debuts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383632
what do the bars mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384211
>susan
anon, I don't know how to tell you this but... Apu is in charge now

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384232
Yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384074
brats are only there because bae has streamed a a shit ton and hosted some tourists heavy events on her channel in the past month. you can see that bae's member% is significantly lower than the other ENs, showing that its mostly tourists viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384211
jesas how much is this photo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384051
They hating literally every holo who getting close to IRyS.

[Anonymous No.]

So is this EN management’s fault? I can’t imagine being the CEO of cover, see this, and think there isn’t something wrong. The entire EN staff need to be cleaned out and redone. They need a new strategy. And simply letting HoloEN’s popularity spiral into the drain isn’t a profitable strategy going forward like whatever current EN management intends to do (also, sure as fuck not focusing on the homos like they’re currently doing is working).

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384192
It's because of the type of dry ass shit content they put out for almost 2 years now. Nothing to be excited about whatsoever. Now though they can start bringing fans back from the dead. They just need new genmates for a full revival.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384250
objectively incorrect

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384211
Merch is always the best

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383822
God I hope so. I still have hopes for a Suisei-Gura song after Gura said she was gonna ask her to collab back in the early summer of last year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384244
You realize
1)CCV is nothing
2) HoloJP was perfectly succesful back when they had this level of CCV
Where is this "dying" shit coming from? At this rate, by the time HoloEN reclines into smal corpo tier you'll lose interest in vtubers, it will take literally half a decade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383632
>>43384074
Hoodachis are real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382535
>>43383371
https://vrabi.net/video/eogSzuZ-7gw
IRyS 2.0
>17,345 unique chatters
>3,072 members in chat
I am starting to believe in the 2nd cull now

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384282
30

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383354
Funnel from EN stream? HAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383771
That's what you get for being too cocky. Now bend over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384211
what you really want to ask is: Do I
>Give my oshi money for her attention so she can notice me while coping that i am "supporting" her while im actually using it to geg closer to my oshi
or
>buy her merch and support her genuinely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383632
I still dont understand why people bother posting this shit though, since its just chatter overlap
People can just watching without posting anything in the chat

[Anonymous No.]

Dear nijibros and holobros, i suggest you switch to ur jp counterparts if you are a numberfag. Vtubing is just a fad in the west.

[Anonymous No.]

Was this really the peak of EN vtubing?
What would be the numbers if they did a 3D debut back then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384250
gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383742
a jp fan would've done both

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384365
This, if anything, HoloEN has a path to reach bigger numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384380
idk why people pretend there is no cull at this point.
Is it the only problem EN faces? No
Has their viewership still fallen off compared to 2020/21 otherwise? Yes
Doesn't change the fact they're still being culled at least somewhat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383589
No idea. But if it's something special then gold is very possible

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384202
>look at me im so horny peepee poopoo dick cum piss fart im so quirky uwu
basically all indie 1view and 2view predebut / hiatus EN vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383771
Welcome to the nest of falseflaggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384051
There's only a couple % difference between Kiara (mid-point of the list at 27.6%) and Gura (%25.3) there
IRyStocrats at 20.1% tho...
I'm more surprised at the highest overlap was Bae and Mumei

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384282
30 plushie x 3500 yen
10500 jpy or about $800. Well worth it to be able to take dino gura army photos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384232
no Holos overlapping each other as usual

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384310
See what? That their branch of ten people is as successful as their crown jewel domestic branch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384202
NijiEN’s trajectory conveniently coincides with western vtubing’s downfall. Is it just a coincidence?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384282
I think this dude bought like 30?
And he's a takodachi plus chumbud

[Anonymous No.]

2 streams, not even 24 hours apart, both lasting an hour. One peaked at 82k, the other peaked at 63k. Guess which one had 50% more unique chatters?

https://vrabi.net/video/ym83gIIc7vs
https://vrabi.net/video/9Cc16ZBW0GY

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384441
Man, Cover really fucked that one up with that atrocious rigging. Imaging showing a model full of holes and floating detached parts to 190k people...

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384441
Gura unironically could have gotten 300k if these streams were on that date instead of the outfits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384282
Dino Gura is pretty cheap though. Only like 20 dollars (not including ship)

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384365
No EN3 to reignite the hype, instead Tempiss and Tempoop who filtered and divided girls fanbases.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382585
Won't council have to wait for holoro?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384441
150 for Gura?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384441
a 3D debut that summer probably wouldve been a solid 200k. unsure how/if Cocos death would have affected it though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384211
Buying merch is the better idea. And Ina is unironically a big merch hitter in EN (every public merch run we've seen has her sell pretty fast, almost as fast as Gura).
Of course I don't think "Ramen holder takodachi" is gonna sell gangbusters. EN's obsession with practical merch is a bit stupid. Let me buy some weeb collector's shit, I'm not about to use the plastic tako that took me 50$ to ship for food.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384380
https://vrabi.net/video/vfsuo2Q1dEM
Gura return stream with almost 20k unique chatters
Is one of the most viewed holo streams of the year already with just a 2hr vod excluding events
and yet
>40k ccv
Youtube is fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384484
Bae was literally streaming right before and did a direct raid
for Moom this is the usual streaming hours and she's a declared Tako since long a go, so hoomans obviously gave it a shot
it also seems deadbeats listened to the Twitter push

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384441
quarantine ain't coming back so no

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384534
I'm glad they shit-canned that rigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384269
blue - overall % of chatters
green- overall % of chatters that are members to ina
yellow - overall % of chatters membered to the respective holo
red - overall % of chatters members to both
something like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384271
Susan was still in charge back during that merch run

[Anonymous No.]

why are we doom posting 60k watching Ina

[Anonymous No.]

So WE are going to cope by blaming it on cull again? Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384534
idk it was pretty fucking funny being around here at the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384608
Mumei is literally at the top of everyone's overlaps. She even shows up on some IDs. Her fans are fucking unityniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384661
number go under predictions = doompost

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384588
Cover repeatedly does not emphasize CCV so who really fucking cares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383522
The more than Elira and less than Risu anon narrowed it down best.

[Anonymous No.]

What if there were NijiEN members shitposting in this thread during the showcase?

[Anonymous No.]

when was the last time there was 10 good posts in a row itt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384441
>194k ccv
>55 mins 450k vod views
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384734
when you were asleep

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384310
What exactly do you want them to do? What would have gotten more eyeballs on this stream? Go back in time and overthrow the Japanese government to let the borders open early?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384734
yesterday, when the thread died

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384745
vnuma...good times

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384441
Unironically all of myth could get 100k or more if it was like 1 and a half year ago, but it has just been so long I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384232
yeah with the first stream buff and no cull

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384661
combo of 3 things
>Nijiniggers
>JP watchers laughing at ENs number being low to no ones surprise to anyone paying attention since early 2022
>EN watchers who despair knowing real numbers have been long lost to time

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383588
>They are streamers

[Anonymous No.]

3D debut/showcase numbers so far

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384441
Vox will beat this

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383572
>Only holoEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384548
I wish I had thought to buy a handful, I only got one. Shipping was mad cheap back then too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384783
Cover could've had then in back in Q2 2022.

[Anonymous No.]

I swear this is going to spread to HoloFes at this fucking rate. The shitposters are getting way too comfortable in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383522
>more than 1k
mom i was right

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384709
But predictions were very conservative mostly? At least from those who had anything to say about theirs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384588
It’s the churn

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora 16k

>30 mins in…

Nousagibros are we reclining?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384130
But I'm sitting here in Indiana right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382884
She is the runt of the gen for a reason anon, I dont watch ENs but just saw Ina because she is cute and will watch Gura's for the same reason, will be checking the threads to see if Suisei appears on Mori's if so I will watch that, I dont care about Watson but to this date she still has the whole La Creatividad aura from early days so I might watch if she does something interesting, I dont care about Kiara's singing, dancing or her ass that she might showcase for 1 minute, she is the least tourist friendly EN and that reflects on any event she does and any collab she host

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384380
...or maybe Gura has a global audience and so a large % are vod watchers?
Picrel is more than a year old, but I bet the demographics haven't changed THAT much since then

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384823
but i want to know why tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384557
I mean Tempus isn't really a threat at all. They share at most 3% audience with the girls. The rest of Tempus fans are just brand new or Niji refugees.

[Anonymous No.]

So now that Flayon has set the standard.
Will Axel coom in Ame's chat during her 3D debut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384310
what they need is a fucking shill at youtube who will whitelist them and uncull all holo accounts

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383411
CCV does not matter more than VOD views. The CCV worshipping is a deflection from the Last Samurai that was created due to Gura getting higher VOD views than any JP so they gaslit everybody into believing that VOD views don't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384661
I'm not doomposting 60k watching Ina. I'm doomposting the fact that the hyped very first 3D showcase stream from one of the most popular HoloEN members barely beat similar 3D showcase from a mid-tier NijiEN *female* member by less than 10k.

[Anonymous No.]

If Marine does a granny stream today, will it get gold?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384886
That's one long sentence nigger and I didn't ask. Learn how to use commas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384848
see >>43383522
eyeballing it I'd say predictions were an average of 70-80k

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384790
Been too long and the 3D models have been used already. I mean Gura already had 2 concerts now, one of them being a properly Cover produced one. Pink woman has had way too god damn many events. The 3D showcases are really not going to garner that many views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384860
She is playing that numbers poison kusoge. No surprises there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384686

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384846
What will they even say about Holofes? It's going to be fucking massive, ridiculously huge
the only angle they have is the extra cost for panels this year but that just outs them as not having a decent job.

[Anonymous No.]

>there's a chance for ina lewds
Aw swe–
>there's a bigger chance a niji or HoloJP steals it
nope nope nope nope
im not gonna get my hopes up, it leads to depression

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384941
It's not really the first time we get to see them in 3D

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384941
how shilled Eliras 3D debut was and how far of an outlier it was from the other 2 girls I wouldnt doubt if Eliras 3D is comparable to male 3D debuts when the time comes for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384941
Elira had a 3d debut mate. Ina had a showcase. Ina has been in sooo much 3d shit not even her hologra debut tomorrow is her real hologra debut, she was in 2(two!) other hologras before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383983
The Western Internet scene moves really fast anon, most of that audience isn't sticking around for 2+ years waiting for Cover to get off its ass and make these things happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384484
>I'm more surprised at the highest overlap was Bae and Mumei
Hoomans like to watch others

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384908
opportunity cost is a huge threat
tempus existing at all meant no EN3 in 2022

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384860
people would rather watch mito first time playing it than pekora part 5

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384890 (me)
Meant for >>43384588
Tho still somewhat relevant for IRyS (probably lots of JOPs)

[Anonymous No.]

second cull aside, wouldn't it be normal for Myth's numbers to recline since Kiara is the only Myth that has been consistently streaming in the last 5 months?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384908
How do you calculate 3%? Chatter overlap for Ina's stream is 28% StarsEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385032
but it is the first time we are seeing the background assets and stages and roooms

[Anonymous No.]

>miko 10k
Slipping out of First Army

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384422
I shows how engaged the viewer is to the stream. If they did not chat, it means they are not engaged enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384967
Now do the previous thread that had less falseflaggers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385021
>gura's 3d will finally get gold for sure
>aqua decides to start apex road to master

[Anonymous No.]

Kanata and chloe? Is this a poor attempt to create new pairing? What are they called kanaloe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383522
I said 50-75k, so almost bullseye technically. Though I was starting to doubt my upper limit as we got closer, thought we had a chance of going higher.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384815
So after the first showcase 20k dip out? I won't expect much from the rest but gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382494
Marine has a stream at 7PM, so it depends on what she decides to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385103
these were taken from 4 different threads

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384846
What are you even bitching about? This is downright comfy. Do you have any idea how this thread is during JP hours? They loop EN vs JP for the entirety of it. Hell prepare for them to start doing EN vs ID in overdrive today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385044
What will you say if HoloEN connect gets a full house at Crypto.com Arena?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385034
Elira was shilled during a tournament and was like most of time in King's screen

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384534
>>43384615
there was so much seething

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385072
Why would having a large vod-watching audience be relevant to a discussion about extremely anomalous unique chatter counts DURING events, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385047
Why you suprised, Mumei gets so many chatters who spam WAH, HIC, AA and etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384924
I meant, they are free to. As long as the girls ignore them, personally I don't GAF. I will treat them the same as those thousands greyniggers around (heck, my oshi reads greys' messages too, but she will be ignoring all males so they are actually below grey fags)

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384517
Last samurais will still deny the cull.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383983
>the livestream was really good
LOL she stood in one fucking spot the entire stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385141
Funny I post mine in two and not one of mine is in the list. It seems you are running a scam here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384517
turn off adblock idiot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383983
Loyalty is something the west has abandoned long ago Anon, individualism simply cannot co-exist with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>this place complains about no official 3d debut on their channels for over a year
>said 3d debut happens
>numbers underperformed
>w-well they u-use their 3d all the time so it’s not a big deal
This place is on cope mode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385060
naturally the audience will drop off because of late game spoilers

[Anonymous No.]

Why is the showcase dates so weirdly spaced. Why can't they do it like the other gens

[Anonymous No.]

>people thinking chat overlap percentages actually mean viewership overlap percentages

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384924
It doesn't matter either way but I don't think Axel will. I think all of Tempus1 have developed a complex about looking like leeches from their kinda-embarrassing first few months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384890
This + Gura is really just shit at promoting herself. A MASSIVE chunk of her audience is on YouTube yet she’s never informed her fans Via public community since like debut time.

She fails at even retweeting big events so people don’t have the luxury to plan ahead if they wanted to, etc.

She’s just lazy.

If she Did a karaoke and atleast threw her JP or korean fans a bone she’d do way better considering there’s tons of clip channels exclusive to Gura overseas that gets 100k+ views overnight, they want to hear what she’s saying and watch her but she ignores them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382655
yeah lazulight didn't do as well as they expected

[Anonymous No.]

With the high morale and good streams from HoloEN lately, especially when EN3 might be coming after Fes4, how long do you think the shitposting will last?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383632
Based IRyStocrats. No group of fans love their oshi more unconditionally than IRyStocrats. They are truly the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384069
More or less Akukin MC is deader than dead.
Not going to really bother with it again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385234
link yours and I'll see if I can improve my search method for next time

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382655
oh no no NO NO

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385122
there'll probably no jp tourist for gura, since they're all working during her showcase

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384813
I bet they added that because only twitchfags streamers applied.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384860
We are shadowbanned...

[Anonymous No.]

can we get a numbers photo of the myth 3d showcase like the holox one before

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384557
So long as they don't make the biggest misstep (tempuke before en3) a recovery is still possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43384517
Feel free to ask Ina in 3 days what her processed CCV is

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385310
Studio availability

[Anonymous No.]

Anons tell me holodex and adblockers deny a view?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385310
en management is sabotaging the EN girls
you know why

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385364
i don't know but /vt/ will go speed during holofes

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385060
Mito is hotter than Pekora anyways

[Anonymous No.]

There is a second ccvid we are not aware of. This is my cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383983
western moves fast
remember how much spics were in the dog's streams?
she lose all that due negative dox posting and not pandering to the DOOG meme when it was hot
also western people are retarded, see pic: >>43384202

holos are just themselves, you can literally put old ass content audio over recent stream footage and nobody will notice it

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385078
Realistically Tempus has nothing to do with the girls audience whatsoever. They are there own thing so no one should even care about them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43382655
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385278
So you're saying EN viewers are smarter than JP for not giving money to Youtube? I agree, doesn't change the fact that EN is more popular than JP when it comes to real people, not corpo-filtered ad-watching drones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43383244
She'll probably record lots of things when she returns, but I'm 99% certain that she'll mainly do holoSummer stuff next. The perfect time for her 3D debut would be just before holoSummer kicks off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385363
Lowest Valentines Day Route. Great job IRyStocrats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43385122
Something like a third to half of her viewers are going to be in school or at work for the stream anon. Don't hold you breath for the EN box to magically pump her into 80k territory.

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>>43385381
I am not gonna go archive diving for your shit methods. Just admit your agenda and shut the fuck up.

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>>43384615
>>43384534
>>43385160

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>>43384815
>inner can't even beat risu

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What the fuck is happening in the catalog? weve been at bump limit for like 20 minutes and were on page 10 already

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>>43385405
imagine the shitposts.
this board would be completely unusable

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>>43385430
Dude, even looking at it wrong denies a view

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>>43385168
Mumei literally wahs and hics in her streams so...

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>>43384211
Every girl will tell you to buy the damned merch. Ina especially, since she won't read the SC on stream unless it's one of the following
>Birthday
>Personal milestone like a new job or a graduation
>An absolutely droll pun that she can't help but read

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>>43385430
the one who made holodex said that holodex still counts, and obviously adblock will deny it

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>>43385398
I'm touching grass at the moment, I'll do it later during JP time.

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>>43385491
why did you even reply to me if you had nothing

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>>43385300
>loyalty to a streamer that ghosts her fans for 3 months

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Good morning sirs yes hello
are you liking that ccvid?

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>>43384579
Coco have more effect on EN than JP?

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>>43385055
Tempus looked like it was planned from the beginning. We already know some 2D models sit around for YEARS without any use. EN3 has nothing to do with Tempus. It just feels coincidental considering JP didn't get a new gen either and they can handle it more then EN.

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koreans not included because theyre botted

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>>43385099
First Army status has been saved since youtube needs to fix their shadowbans first. I refuse to believe in any type of recline if holos get more and more popular, vtubing gets more popular, more people tune into streams. This is cull. Recline doesnt even come into consideration here.

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>>43382124
collab song happened before Tempoop debut they shouldn't be allowed unless it's a blanket perm.
Well to be honest we have no idea how formal the ban is in the first place, was it actually enforced by management or sort of informal understanding between holo and homo members.

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>>43385364
It already looks dumb and it's going to look even dumber as the year progresses.
Are these guys still gonna be in here false-flag doomposting when HoloEN is in HoloFes4, getting a new gen, a live concert in LA, featured in a bunch of 3d lives as guests, and who the fuck knows what else the rest of this year?
It's like someone following a lottery winner as they buy new houses and cars and telling them that their shoes are scuffed so they should kill themselves

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>>43384860
fucking Migo and Suba overlapping her so audience is splitting, also Kuroe and Kanata with Maikura collab buff.

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>>43384978
we finally found something worse than DQ
and 3D funnel doko?

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>>43385544
IIRC they tested in a personal stream and confirmed incognito holodex viewer incremented CCV by 1

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>>43385580
To say that your data is fucked and you using it as proof of something is flawed and clearly not done in good faith.

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>>43385631
sapoopling cope

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>>43382585
All of Council is going to be there in the summer (except maybe Bae).

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>>43385177
last samurais go just as hard on the cull issue. stop coping nijinog

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>>43385633
>he thinks JP is culled
retard

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>>43385430
Adblockers do, and tested too I believe. I don't think anyone has tested the Holodex claim yet (Holodex themselves denied that)
Rather than denying a view, though, it's more that you don't contribute your +1 CCV while watching the stream live. The chuuba will still get it in the processed CCV.

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>>43385684
>3D funnel
Going out/going to sleep

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What the hell is happening to EN market

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>>43384534
It's kino because they're just starting... and are an actual real weeb.. all the flaws, imperfection etc are kinos. In the future, people will views deepfake anime girl with hidden political, corpos agenda. that's more atrocious in my eyes.

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>>43385631
Copling...

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>>43385684
Why would Takodachi funnel to Pekora? I can't think of a single reason.

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Put away corpo tribalfaggotry, how do we save western vtubing?

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confession time. I have never listened to violet, daydream, let me stay here, a new start, or any irys songs.

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>>43385678
That didn't matter a yera ago though?
Clearly new shadowban is in place. Youtube chinks saw how holos had an amazing january and decided to act quick~!

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ENkeks...
it's time for us to leave the numbers thread since our numbers are shit...

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>>43384202
damn that last post is ALOT of seethe

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>>43385759
Unironically reclining

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>>43384815
Put EN/ID so we are clear.

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>#2 EN
>60k
C-council predictions?

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>>43385648
I feel like a majority of the shitposts are just NijiEN fans trying to cope with the lack of stuff from NijiEN.
I mean, even during Dec and Jan, NijiEN was still doing non consequential shit while HoloEN had recordings and good stuff coming. Now, with the 3D showcases from Myth, HoloFes and even HoloEN Connect, there is no way NijiEN can compete.

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>>43385631
>Gura
>Mumei
>Fauna
Sounds about right.

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>>43382626
Can she, yes? Will she? I doubt it.

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>>43385805
make vei the face of western vtubing

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>>43382057
The takeaway is that the HoloEN fanbase is a meme, and they only tune in for memeshit.
HoloEN fanbase doesn't give much of a shit about idol stuff is all.

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>>43385818
you're not missing anything

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>>43385759
Nothing "is happening". What happened is it was allowed to recline for a whole year with nothing exciting to keep people engaged. I don't EN would ever have been JP tier even with full Cover support, but it was criminal of them to not debut EN3 8 months after Council. By now we should have had EN4 debuted for months.

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>>43385759
Natural recline. Hololive EN could have kept interest in the market but fumbled the bag with Council and no real follow up talent to match Myth.

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>>43385759
fad 's over
everyone went back to real streamers that actually play video games

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When’s the last time Gura even acknowledged her JP, Taiwan, Korean fans again?

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>>43385837
0, EN vtubing will be dead by 2024

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>>43385631
IRyS lmao

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>>43385805
just let it die already. everything the west touches turns to shit

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>>43385862
wrong one, she's only important in europe

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>>43385731
>thinks
lmao we KNOW JP is culled newfag

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>>43385818
>Violet
It's good, worth listening
>Daydream
Not my fav, skippable
>Let me stay here
I like it, if you like soft "comfy" stuff you'd like it
>A New Start
Fun for a few listens, cool MV
>IRyS songs
I like gravity and 'til the end of me as starters

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https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1627166023186284544
Shukkou!!