/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Why did they even bother?

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Why arent you subscribed chud? Don't you support the cause?

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>>43279970
Why did they even bother?

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They're actually still looking for even more guys, for some reason. The male-specific auditions were promoted a while ago, right after these guys showed up. They're really accelerating with holostarsEN for some reason.

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>>43279970
Because 90k fans is better than having <1k fans as an indie.

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>>43279970
Daily reminder that even Tempus Gen2 is a success for Holostars, despite them having Nijisanji-tier sub numbers

This is Holostars Uproar at a year old

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>>43279970
cause it's like playing lottery. That's the name of the game newfag, find a one-hit wonder like goomba, get carried.

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>>43280025
I usually say it ironically but actually who?

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>>43280224
uyu...

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>>43279970
subs don't matter that much desu, whether you like tempiss or not. Also they debuted only a month ago. Btw fuck "the cause"

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>>43279970
Bear the endeavor

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>>43280267
nijiJP's latest wave. they had 50-70k debuts around a month ago.

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>>43280304
He had a shot at getting some publicity with Kobo and Bettel yesterday but he ghosted the Apex collab, this man is allergic to subs

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>>43279970
Idol en wants to collabs

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>>43280304
Considering HolostarsJP is considered profitable and worth new outfits, hairstyles, 3D models etc at these numbers we can go ahead and assume Tempus is making a pile of money, which is why they're recruiting more of them. I assume their overhead is much less than a Hololive girl.

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>>43279970
I'm kind of surprised the numbers are even that good. These guys are new NijiEN wave levels of anonymous. Never see anything posted about them.

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>The only metric he uses to rate success is subs number

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>>43279970
Every wave needs sacrificial pawns. If you don't blow up on debut then you are just doomed to be a 3view.

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>>43280025
women at nijisanji are just as oppresed as men in hololive

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>>43280612
>I assume their overhead is much less than a Hololive girl
Based on what? It's not like Cover buys their tampons

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>>43280632
cover puts a lot of value in it

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>>43280011
Fuck no i don’t support tempoop

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>watch through my soundposts on shuffle
>one is pic related
>next one is AJ 'Rape! Rape! Rape!'
kek

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>>43280224
Reminder that tempus isn’t competing with holostars JP so comparing them is stupid, they were set up to compete with nijisanji EN, and by that metric, tempiss is a complete flop

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>>43280962
thanks for giving us your secret knowledge, yagoo
now debot en3 and add a hag

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i really want to fuck bettel

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>>43280962
>they were set up to compete with nijisanji EN

I mean, their views, CCV and superchat numbers all shit on NijiEN except for the ones propped up by Chinese money so I'd say they succeeded

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>>43280962
>>43280224
Tempus is literally judged by the same standards as Uproar/Stars JP and therefore there will be a Tempus 3 once Bettel gets to 100k subs.

There will not be a holo en3 unless yagoo changes the rules so that en3 can debut even though no one in en2 has reached 1 million subs yet because they are retarded lazy whores.

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>>43281253
Is there going to be a starsJP 5 then too?

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>>43279970
Bettel is actually kinda underrated desu

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>>43281253
>>43281385
>kronii is still in the lead of Council subs
Fucking grim, it will be a long time to each 1,000,000 at this rate.

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>>43280078
The more the merrier. They'll just separate into cliques with coworkers they can have fun with. It's better than all of them being depressed over being alone.

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>>43280077
Nigga he’s saying why did cover bother, no shit joining holostars and getting shitty views there is better then getting 0 views as an indie

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>>43281462
It was good of him to change his twitter tags when he was informed they were taken by another small time vtuber (who had taken then from someone else herself and changed hers anyway), though he didn’t have much of an option as if he ignored it then it would’ve been terrible publicity.

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>>43280428
Rin is the mori of idol-en, half of the fanbase hates her and she is well aware of this fact, i think their idea is to have one homo collaber to take the brunt of the hate and the rest of the girls can do GFE, idol en has three GFE cunny-tubers now after all

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>>43280078
EN management are bunch of faggots and nijiniggers

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>>43280428
lmao you wish holonigger

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>>43279970
The only problem was they forced them out too soon. I think the Vesper think spooked them and fearing an early graduation (particularly so soon after Sana) HoloEn's corpo branch wanted something to fall back on so they didn't look like incompetent failures

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>>43280078
Stealing market share from the collapsing NijiEN is actually not an inherently flawed strategy. Plus, more stars means more collab partners, and less unicorns throwing shit fits over M/F collabs.

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>>43281741
Dont be mad anon your oshi wants to leech tempus

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>>43279970
To give the original Tempus boys new friends to play with without them having to rely on outside collabs. It worked too, they’ve been having a blast nonstop gaming for the last couple of weeks.

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>not even 100k subs yet
>b-but it doesn't count because they should be compared to the JP homos!
Every single time

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>>43281697
She's just autistic, anon.

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>>43281891
I watch vtubers to have fun, not to masturbate over a number going up.

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>>43280224
>nijisanji tier subs
>when even iluna is above them
ok

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>b-but numbers don't matter!
Every single fucking time.

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>>43281834
they arent stealing market share from anyone when they literally are losing viewers

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>>43279970
feel bad for the niji eX-ID

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>>43281253
Yeah they say that cause the company just was planning on going public and tempus is a complete flop compared to previous EN talents which would scare off investors, so cover is saying “oh we expected them to have shitty viewership so their low views aren’t an issue”… anyone with two braincells to rub together can tell that tempus was meant to compete with luxium and therefore cover likely wanted them to be similarly successful, people who say cover expected them to be 2views are unironically retarded

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>>43281741
how's that "gura killer" working out for you?

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>>43282057
mika doing pretty good ya ya I i know
>inb4 whore leech

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>>43280612
This is not accurate, oga recently said that management was pressuring all of them to get more memberships and superchats. Holostars was likely meant to be a long game situation, where they tolerated low views with the assumption that they would some day blow up and they’d get a return on their investment… and now that cover is going public, holostars needs to prove that they’re worth it because their low viewership is bound to scare off investors

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>>43281891
No retard they literally ARE compared to JP homos because they're managed and part of Holostars, so they have the same targets to hit as Stars JP rather than Holo En, which should have been obvious when they considered 2k CCV average to be a massive success with flayon at 700 viewers and Bettel at 4000 viewers in that range, when Gura came back and got 45,000 viewers.

HoloEN is held to HoloJP standards.

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>>43279970
I had no idea there was a second gen until I heard about the auditions. I feel like they barely promoted these guys at all, meanwhile anons where absolutely buttmad about their debut

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>>43282490
It just looks fucking stupid to have a weird hanger-on group of males in an idol group, segregated entirely from the actual super-popular and profitable branch, soaking up resources that have better uses elsewhere. Like you say, fine as an initial investment with the idea that it should grow, but Stars hasn't grown enough to be worth it.
Most companies would slice off anything that doesn't get traction after an honest, years-long effort. Google does it literally 10s of times a year, for example.

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>>43282061
Damn didn't know KPMG employees are here

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>>43282061
Investors don't fucking know what CCV and viewership mean in terms of fucking youtube videogame players, all the 80yo handsrubbing Japanese executives who are thinking of investing in Cover are being sold it as a tech company because they are Showa era fossils who don't and won't ever comprehend what a vtuber is except that it's what their loser grandson watches when they're not screaming at him to find a wife and carry on the family name while grooming him for a potential managerial position because he went to Tokyo University and should be less of an otaku scum dweeb.

Hearing that holostars surpassed all previous records for holostars in terms of profits is what the investors would care about, which is objectively what has occurred.

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>>43281834
>using brand loyalty to transform tens of thousands of men into cuckolds
Brilliant, but what's the endgame?

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>>43282052
Unlike NijiEN, who are too busy being retards and faggots to even stream.

>>43282676
Does the existence of other men in the world make you thinking about being cuckolded?

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>>43282490
HoloJP boys follow the "no pussy no work" theory, where men will contendedly make a decent salary streaming videogames for a few hundred female fans if there is no higher incentive. Most of them did retarded things to discourage the same redditors who made Fubuki break the algorithm on youtube and become big from watching them.

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>>43282661
>Hearing that holostars surpassed all previous records for holostars in terms of profits is what the investors would care about, which is objectively what has occurred.
You are assuming that big business investors are total retards who won't realize the simple math that every dollar invested in Holostars returns way less than a dollar spent in Hololive. You're literally saying here that these old men won't even understand what a vtuber is, but then you also somehow expect them to understand or accept that Holostars should be graded on a curve compared to Hololive. It's just cope

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>>43282231
Her new outfit is sex. I'm happy (?) for her, even if she is unrecognizable as the Mika of 2021 who was just a chill streamer. But it's still funny she was shocked that the NijiENs were talking about hookups and shit because apparently she's a virgin waiting to be hooked up with an arranged marriage with a wealthy husband.

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>>43281503
I don’t get why. For me kronigger is like the mori of council. If anyone deserves her sub count its Fauna!

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>>43282490
>now that cover is going public
>low viewership is bound to scare off investors
that's not how investors or shareholders work

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>>43282842
They view things in terms of "beat last quarter's profits by X%" not "they not good because fuck males" you are retarded and /vt/ has rotted your brain. The whole point of investment and business is that investors want to see there's a consistent quarter by quarter and annual gain and objectively the Holostars had massive gains in 2022 with Tempus.

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>it's another "anons pretend they are financial analysts" episode again

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>>43282661
You’re actually retarded, that’s the only thing investors would care about, every *smart investor is a numberfag, being a numberfag is the key to smart investing, and youtube isn’t some little website that no one’s ever heard of, people would understand that holostars getting 10% of the viewership and subscribers of their female counter parts is bad and a sign that the product is a commercial failure

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>>43282867
>I don’t get why
Big boobs, really famous artist, meme voice.
However because she is Kronii she self sabotages and ensures she lost all momentum.

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>>43282932
We have multiple Holostars independently starting to complain and whine that they're being asked to get their metrics up all of a sudden (which it turns out was in the month before an IPO announcement) and you're still trying to pretend nobody is going to look at this numbers. OK, anon, whatever you say

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>>43282956
Every fucking thread that even mentions holostars is, not even tempus or tempus2, you say stars in any board and it becomes a bucket full of pseudo money gods of invsting tards, they think that by hating they'll kill them when apathy is the best poison in humanity

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>>43282106
>the only thing Holo has going on for them is a streamer that never streams
Yuko is pretty nice actually, about to release a yab ASMR. How's Gura doing these days? Tummy hort still?

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>>43283173
I'd be happy even if they were 2views, every viewer that helps kill that shitty black company Nijisanji is a win in my book. And maybe some funny dudes along the way. Win-win.

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I hate all male vtubers and wish them the worst in life

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>>43283288
She goes live in about 2 hours with two major announcements! Thanks for asking

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>>43280962
Retard they're judging them based on HolostarsJP whochis why management is being hard on the JP homos asking them to pull in more members like Tempus do.

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>>43283320
>I hate all men and wish them the worst in life
So true sister. We stan boss bitches here.

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>>43283420
male vtubers aren't men, they are all faggots

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https://youtu.be/YKTYbI5wXxw

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>>43282932
Lmao anons thinking that investors aren't familiar with the concept of an underperforming division
holy shit

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>>43283288
Is Yuko the /k/ommamdo slut?

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>>43282932
It’s not that they aren’t good because they’re males, it’s that they aren’t good because their viewership objectively sucks compared to the women of hololive and the mere existence of holostars hurts the reputation of cover which would scare off investors… do you think investors would like the idea of cover focusing on this commercial flop which is damaging their reputation with their highest paying fans?

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>>43282057
No. Nobody should feel bad for them.
They could be doing well if they did their reps and went for a Jap or Anglo audience, but they're too fixated on having Indos even though it hasn't been working out for them for years.
Case in point: Mika and ex-KRs. The former went for NijiEN's audience and the latter went for NijiJP's audience and they're now doing even better than they were before the merger.

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>>43283456
Sing it sister! All men are gaybois and not #realmen enough for me!

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>>43282900
Investors are numberfags idiot, that’s exactly how investors work, for a company like this, bad viewership = bad investment

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>>43283540
what is wrong with homofags, why are they all like this

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>>43283580
>what is wrong with homofags, why are they all like this

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>>43283333
>major announcement(s)
betting my left nut she's just promoting the song. But those digits are looking pretty good, so I might be wrong

>>43283486
Yeh.

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>>43283652
cool wojackpost

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>>43283420
>>43283540
Shut up faggot, we don’t hate men, we are men you stupid bastard, we hate male vtubers because they are ruining the culture of our hobby

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>>43281462
He always was kinda based even back in the days when he played on gta rp servers

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>>43283657
Prepare to lose your nut because one of the two announcements is pretty obviously about a model update, the stream is called [REVEAL] new fish!

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>>43283684
>WE

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>>43283703
>model update
She got one not even a year ago, all of Myth (and possibly EN) is getting new models, I highly doubt this announcement will be anything exclusive to her

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>>43283291
I'll fucking admit it, i liked nijiEN1 and luxiem, they looked like a solid iron block to start fighting toe to toe against holopro, and well that was a fucking lie, it was an empty putrid pice of wood like everything made to ponder the chinx, I only found out after they started putting weight over the block with more and more shit gens, tempiss might be 2 views but at least I sometimes feel like watching their clips, anything nijiEN as a WHOLE produces is just a copy paste of their first year, I agree that if the shit company dies and all of them spread out as indies, the whole vtuber comunity will be better

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>>43280962
>they were set up to compete with nijisanji EN, and by that metric, tempiss is a complete flop
Looks like someone hasn't seen the data in /#/ >>43272487

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>>43283775
Yeah we, me and the other people you are talking to, we does not mean every person on the planet, you really are a stupid bastard huh

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>>43284021
Ok correction, they were meant to compete with *luxium, half of niji EN are 3views which drags down the average

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>>43279970
Luxiem convinced them there is a worthwhile audience and they were dumb enough to buy it

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>>43283775
Hate fags like you and male vtubers.

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>>43279970
probably they mass commissioned avatars when the vox craze started.

or do you think they commission when the price is high ?

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>>43280011
supporting homos wth ofc not

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>>43280428
>bettel
>has never put together ap uzzle
of fucking course he's the one who never has...

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Even HolostarsEN fana didn't want a gen 2, at least this early. The group dynamic is completely fucked now, and it led to all that drama with Vesper. No one likes gen 2, they're all boring streamers with no chemistry with each other or gen 1

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>>43284071
>>43284231
>WUZ

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>>43281834
>Plus, more stars means more collab partners, and less unicorns throwing shit fits over M/F collabs.
That logic doesn't hold up if they hire more Vespers who only do group collabs with girls.

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>>43280428
Rin Penrose...I was so annoyed by those ads before every fucking Hololive stream that I blocked her

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Reminder that merch sales(2nd lightest color) are the greatest source of a chuuba’s generated income, and Holostars merch consistently sells out

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>be a 3view indie
>get into tempus and continue being a 3view but now Cover is taking half your money
Get those auditions in boys it's a great opportunity.

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>>43283557
Investors are retards who are prone to fall for shitty scams that even the most retarded 3rd worlder would smell out right away, ever heard of Nikola?

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>>43281697
Ah i'll keep that in mind that means she's the only one wroth subscribing too

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>>43279970
Someone at management wanted to prove a point. They got proven wrong instead.
Let's hope they get fired and their little experiment is on ice.

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>>43285931
>hire more Vespers who only does group collabs with himself

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>>43279970
and for some reason they're looking to add even more
I hope the new shareholders make them cut the dead weight

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>>43280025
Who?

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>>43290230
nijisanjiJP's latest wave

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>>43289406
>dead weight
holostarsEN are basically low risk low gain investments
cover corp already has shareholders (thats why the taiwan yab became such a big deal), if they dont want to push for more female talents instead of homos its probably because of issues with the already existing female branch (management or talent related)

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>>43280025
>On par with a gen that got culled heavily
>But Nozomi still outearn all of them
roru rumao
Homoniggers are pathetic

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>>43290517
>(thats why the taiwan yab became such a big deal)
It became a big deal because bilibili decided they wanted to do a power grab, it was nothing to do with Cover's corporate structure.

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>>43287552
How much of the merch sales do the hololive/holostars actually see? We know they get money from their birthday merch but has Cover ever given a straight answer on the split for the other merch sales?

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>>43287552
>sells out
>merch is made to order
Absolute fucking retard

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>>43279970
>Why did they even bother?
I've got nothing. This guy often barely qualifies for /lig/ on his own, sometimes he can't even do that.

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>>43294815
Guess since Gura's daki is made to order it can't sell out either.

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>>43283835
Luxiem actually had some promise in the beginning. Vox was primed and ready to just be a cool streamer dude with a bit of femoid fan service and was autistically hyper focused on smash bros and sekiro, but the allure of chink bucks was too much along with the rapid changing landscape of nijien trying to be as lewd and suggestive as possible.

Nowdays the only nijis I can stomach are pomu, selen, and doppio. Tempus I've actually started to watch more than the girls since at the end of the day I can easily fap to 2D anime girls, but I can't as easily replace the bro experience.