/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Boy investors really like sub count huh?

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Sub count is a very easy to understand metric for them, even if it's not the most useful one for understanding present success or earning potential.

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>>43245341
>hah numberfags

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>>43245454
Yeah it's just big number = good. They have no idea what metrics actually matter. It also makes it easy to compare to other big channels.

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The big number good
t. Investor

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>>43245341
They don't give half a shit about product quality. All they care about is their imaginary monopoly money.

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>>43245341
why are they putting kobo over africa?

[Anonymous No.]

Graduate everyone under 1 mil subs

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>>43245541
nips very isolationist, pureasu andastando

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>>43245341
Kizuna Ai is Hololive?

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>>43245541
She’s blessing the rain down in Africa.

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>>43245341
I didn't know Marine had jumped to #2.

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>>43245599
I guess that's just an overall vtuber ranking?

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>>43245341
>top en Holo: blue
>top id Holo: blue
>top jp Holo: red
Why?

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>>43245651
because red is in glorious nippon's flag anon

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>>43245341
The (only?) good news for us is that any investor with half a brain will tell them to debut en3 as quickly as possible

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>>43245341
>pekora is the life course of hololive and the biggest talent overall!

>investors Looking intently at Gura and Marine, even the shit eater kobo

Nousagikeks…

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>>43245651
idk why they place marine instead of pekora there

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>>43245831
higher sub, see the ranking

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As long as the investors are looking at my oshi I’m fine with this, hopefully I see more Gura and se Chou promoted and less HoloX bias.

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>>43245855
wait, marine overtook pekora? what the hell happened?

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>>43245915
maribako happened

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>>43245915
Coomer bait always wins, peko is sex but doesn’t flaunt it like marine

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>>43245341
>>43245454
Sub count gives a good idea of potential reach and the public's awareness of the brand. Having and metric that includes Gura, Marine, and Kobo also shows Hololive's dominance in every market they're in. Plus any metric where you're #1 in the industry by over a million (and make up 9 of the top 10 to boot) is going to be something you brag about.

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>>43246013
But why is Kobo in Africa tho?

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I suspect that the chart will look like Anycolor's; an initial takeoff followed by a sustained collapse. The correct play then is to buy into Cover's IPO, sell on the first rise, then short it down to the bottom. This is financial advice.

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>>43245915
Marine released a quality song that went viral. She passed Mori as well to become #2 most subbed Holo.

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>>43245973
Gura is not sex, tho

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>>43246075
Does anyone truly know or care where Indonesia is? Africa seems about right.

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>>43245541
She will fit in with Africans people in no time

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Why is Fillian, ZilverK, JaidenAnimations and others in here?
Why is Cover lying about the numbers?

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>>43245486
“They have no idea what metrics actually matter”

>Loser on /vt/
>arguing what’s more important than what the investors themselves decide. Subs and vods have always been a major metric on YouTube for growth.

Bigger sub count = more growth like a snowball effect and that brings in more money because that’s what attracts brands and collaborations

Pewdiepie has over 100M yet still averages like 10k+ on a live yet is still raking in millions, he’s been the face of YouTube for years (atleast until Mr. Beast) and that’s all investors care about

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>>43246173
the fuck you on about

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>>43246173
Because it's a list of vtubers

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>>43246190
Faggot, Holos no longer dominate the most subbed Vtuber lists.
Heck, if we even include Twitch, 0 Holos are in the top 10

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>>43246013
>>43245454
Fpbp

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>>43246204
They are Vtubers faggot
Just because it makes your shitty company look bad doesn't mean you should screw around with the data and deliberately LIE to your potential investors

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>>43246225
>Why is Fillian, ZilverK, JaidenAnimations and others IN here?
they're not there

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>>43245341
Gura is expected to continually gain many new subs (she gained as much as others while not streaming), Of course, Kobo is the top sub-earner of ID, and Marine recently overtook Calli in subs.

Seems based on the present sub earner than total subs. Can't read JP.

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Big fish

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>>43246085
Anon nijistock was basically a scam the retarded chinks fell for it and bought the overvalued stock cover is different they are in for the long run both company are simply incomparable

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>>43245341
>Mori on her way to being passed by pekora after already getting mogged by marine

Where did it all go wrong for her? After gura abandoned her the growth just stopped entirely…

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>>43245915
Sex always sell.

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>>43246173
For fillian this this documents was created before she reached higher subs it says the date there and the others aren't vtubers

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>>43245341
Why they put kobo's picture in africa?

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>>43246263
Okay you made me look them up so I guess you win, but 2 of those are literally just not vtubers. 1 is some faggot dicking around in vrchat and the other is "We have Egoraptor at home". Filian seems like a proper vtuber and if I had to speculate why she wasn't included on the list I'd guess that only vtubers with some corporate affiliation (maybe even Japanese corporate affiliation) count for the purposes of that list. I can't read runes so I don't know what the list criteria is.

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>>43246563
Maybe this >>43246552

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>>43246539
Connor was right about her huh.

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>>43246560
She's blessing the rains down there

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>>43245541
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hob_1SbfwHU

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>>43245341
Plot twist : They put Kizuna Ai there just to not have Mori in top 3 rumao

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>>43246602
Seems possible. This is the first I'm hearing of her so I'd believe it if you told me she just started blowing up after the list had been made.

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>>43246149
As an Indo myself I actually like it that no one cares about my country.
Let my country develop without anyone disturbing so when we are ready we will already shook the world like China did late 2000s.
Else we will end up like current India, fragile as fuck and the whole western world is bullying them.

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>>43246742
Also Jaiden Animations only became a vtuber like last year's december, all of her sub is before she became a vtuber, nyanners-style

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>>43246659
the official vtuber of boko haram

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>>43246173
Same reason why Xqc and Amouranth arent there even though they were tagged as vtubers

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>>43246426
(me)
I meant growth. Selection is based on present sub growth of each branch. From that snapshot, Gura is already 4.27 from 4.25 and I expect her to get back to 50k+ per month, as well as Kobo.

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>>43246666
it clearly says source is the userlocal page on jan. 11th

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>>43246846
katakana isn't clear for EOP anon

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>>43245341
NijiJP management are huge numberfags too, they literally had a fake award they made up for themselves in gold calling themselves the world's biggest vtuber agency on their front page up until Holo passed their chuuba stats overall, where the little "we're #1!!" aware mysteriously vanished lmao.

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>>43245599
>Kizuna Ai is Hololive?
Table is listing all the vtubers. Just that Hololive fills most of the top. Be awhile before another surpasses Kizuna Ai. Is she ever going to return?

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>>43246939
kek, really? when was that gone?
I want to check the archives

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>>43246846
>>43246872
>>43246993
Where's Salome then? Huh, faggots

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>>43246774
this shithole still has a million years gap to catch up with india, let alone china

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>>43247042
Got me. They missed one. Since her growth has essentially stopped, it's irrelevant. Again, the selection of the three is on the current growth of each branch.

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>>43247042
retard-chama...

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>>43245341
where's Ziaon?

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>>43247042
Yeah, about that...

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This proved Gura was forced to come back and stream before this announcement.

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>>43247266
She'll be listed later if she joins Hololive. A place were she would actually be wanted.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, will they be forced to axe the boys later?

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>>43247343
Married.
No thanks

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>>43247340
Gura was never going to miss HoloFes. Nice try.
But was nice to give the title Ambassador upon her return. And Gura advertised on all the trains....maybe.

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>>43247369
>implying no other hologirls are married

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>>43247369
hate to tell you, some in Holo have boyfriends and none are virgins.

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>>43247360
depends on if they plan to let yagoo play with his boys in the corner

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>>43247444
>>43247445
Knew that. Why add more?

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>>43245341
I expect the girl's income will be reduced because of market manipulation. Investors only want profit

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>>43247343
damn! ziaon going to miss BBC in africa

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>>43247360
Holostars are bigger than like half of Niji they'll be fine, none of them cost anything to maintain on their own. They might lose management headcount behind the scenes but they don't do much anyway.

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Just saying, if content drastically changes because of new investors, they will crash like Nijisanji. Read this, big corpos.

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>>43247467
She's actually entertaining.

Let's say China wants to make amends to be allowed to buy some shares, B2 is opened up, and Genshin perms are restored. Be a perfect place for her. Wishful thinking. Zaion did no wrong.

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>>43247521
>Holostars are bigger than like half of Niji
Did the voice in your head tell you this?

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>>43247360
I hope so

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>>43247516
reflection? why the obsession with BBC? Must be you, because everyone knows Zaion prefers the cute smol ones.

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Some chinks will find a way to buy the majority of the shares, and ultimately ruin the company out of spite.
Going public is the beginning of the end. It's been fun you guys.

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>>43245915
https://www.tiktok.com/discover/I-m-Your-Treasure-Box
Marine managed to go viral. AGAIN. At the time they were neck and neck, but she pulled this shit and took the lead.

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>>43247742
Just hope it's slowed, by then Gura will have graduated, as well as myself from watching vtubers. But the growth would be tremendous before the downfall.

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>>43247742
Clearly we just need to buy the shares first

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>>43247565
I know /vt/ tries to prop up Zaion because she's spouting based talking points, but is she really suitable for holo though?
Knowing holo's fanbase she'd probably get stoned the moment the fanbase got news of her being married, especially since she just joined.
For the other ones rumored to already be married, most of them has been in the company for several years already so maybe it's tolerated more.
Also thinking that China is going to fix their relationship with Cover in the near future is yeah, wishful thinking.

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>>43246173
>twitch
lol

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>>43247902
China values money. Coco has already graduated. They won already. Many thought Hololive would return after that but didn't happen...why the grudge. Which can be easily amended.

As for Zaion. Respect is earned, not demanded. Put her in a corp that treats the members more equally. She will follow. No cliques to make her the odd man out, and her humor won't be despised by the SJWs there. She'll fit right in, say under the wing of Gura. With Zaion calling her Gura Senpai.

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>>43246173
Literally who????

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>>43247960
Youtube bots cost less than this

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>>43245541
>>43246075
Because it's raining down in africa

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>>43245341
>puts Kobo on top of Africa
what the FUCK did they mean by this

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>>43248275
it's not that Cover doesn't want to go there, here look >>43249219
As long as that stands, any China perms is basically gone.
You basically need to change their governments opinion first for that.

I won't say anything more about Zaion, it's not like I watch her in the first place except from what I've heard from /vt/.
If she got accepted then yeah sure, good for her.

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>>43248275
You're full of shit basically

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>>43247002
if i had to guess, around 2021

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>>43247467
Married hags are the best that's why. She's divorced though

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>>43245341
>>43245454
Investors are professional gamblers. Something that has a potential to make more money is more interesting to them than something that already makes money. Making safe bets gives minimal return, they want to see something that has a large possibility of making money but isn't living up to it's perceived potential. The gap between the two is what makes investing money worthwhile.
High median viewcount relative to their subs means nothing to them because those are core audience already spending money according to their possibilities.
Investors don't care about them, they're already where they're supposed to be, they want to see their investment return by having an existing entity expeand in scope and therefore multiply their money.
They're interested in how to make casual audiences like subscribers who only sometimes watch, people who know what the entity in question is but don't engage with it and people who might learn because of related interests. Getting them to start giving money or to use that sub count to expose potential money spenders is the goal. Subs are the best way to expose someone to something.

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>>43245341
they sure do

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>>43247360
I doubt it. Management was happy with Tempus Gen 1's numbers. Now that 3 view shoto in Gen 2...

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>>43245341
**Sub count & Ad impressions

It's been years and numberfags still don't know how numbers work

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>>43249532
NTA, but CCP doesn't GAF about Cover or Hololive. For them, the matter was settled after Cover's initial statement (the one translated by B2).
Only B2 dislikes Cover (Tencent has no problem giving Holo perms, for example).
Thus, non B2 organizations can always approach Cover if they wish to. Still, with that said, I hope not, and I don't think Cover want to go back there either.

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>>43245599
daisenpai of daisenpai

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>>43245341
this is the bigs baby all the matters is growth, being able to say gura has amassed 4.2 milion in under 3 years will make Paul Li's 3 inch chopstick cock really hard, saying we have a 3rd world mut in indonesia that we invested 10k usd into being one of the fastest growing vtubers in history will make them hard, This board has shit on numberfags for years, lol in the end they win, they get to bark out their oshis sub growth and viewer/sub ratio after 24/48 hours and it will actually matter lmao.

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>>43245341
I can't believe nousakeks convinced the board that subs don;t mean anything becuase they are butthurt over gura

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What /#/ can never cope with is that as an advertiser, it is more valuable to have 4.25 million people get a glance at your product once than to have 75 thousand people actively seeing it. Same with VOD views, it doesn't matter how many people watch live, as long as more people get eyes on what you're selling.

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>all this B-BUT SUBCOUNT DOES NOT MATTER cope
kek Gura is the most popular AND profitable vtuber no matter how much you try to deny reality

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>>43246184
Oh god, too much truth for the coping Nousakeks ITT lmao

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>>43245831
It's imple: hag buff

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>>43246135
>ToT UOH!!!!
To many she is the epitome of sex.

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>>43253938
>(Tencent has no problem giving Holo perms, for example).
Holos have since played games from Tencent and no one batted an eye. I remember Kaela playing something that showed a collection of games at the title screen and the cover image for that rhythm game appeared for a second.

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>>43245915
how was the coma?

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>>43246173
same reason why pewdiepie isnt there
they arent vtubers

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>>43247516
BBC is British retard. Even the name implies it
(British Broadcasting Corporation)
and Zaion lives in America afaik

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>>43245341
>2 lolis
and then there's marine

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>>43245486
this has to be the dumbest post in /vt/ history.

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>>43251040
t. wallstreet bets poster
gonna show me your portfolio bud?

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>>43245541
What are you trying to imply anonchama?

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>>43247287
Lmao imagine it is off by 1

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>>43247287
why did salome's sub growth slow so much? i thought she was a phenomenon.

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>>43245915
Because Marine has no weaknesses. She releases original music accompanied with high quality MVs and hosts excellent 3D lives, she's always entertaining in collabs, can hold people's attention just talking by herself etc. Pekora is a creative/funny game streamer but she loses to Marine in every other avenue.

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>>43246617
Always was

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>>43246173
convert channels hold no value or cookie would be the biggest vtuber channel in the world, even pewdiepie streamed with the model couple of times wanna count it?

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>>43245915
Treasure Box happened. It went viral and was translated and clipped in like 10+ different languages (specifically the coomer parts).
In the end, sex sells and coomer bait will always win.

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https://discord.gg/Y7EmRD2uYU
3

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>>43270272
Cookie turned into brown Lamy and has kept on doing nothing but vtuber content for over a year now though, without ever dropping the model or fleshtubing again. At this point her not counting is massive /#/ cope.

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>>43271068
nah, fuck converts. her channel wasn't built on vtubing.