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43160030 No.43160030 [Reply] [Original]

Source?

>> No.43160108

I fucked up and bought a 4080 instead of a 4090. I'm gonna rope

>> No.43160178

Do you have a source on that?

Source?

A source. I need a source.

Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.

No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.

You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.

Do you have a degree in that field?

A college degree? In that field?

Then your arguments are invalid.

No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.

Correlation does not equal causation.

CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.

You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.

Nope, still haven't.

I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.

>> No.43160240

They didn't say that
What some HAVE said is it's "Not worth the it"

>> No.43160302

>>43160240
>some
who
what about the rest?
also
>source?

>> No.43161296

>>43160108
is that what one of them said?

>> No.43161607

>>43160302
Gura in member stream directly answered that she wouldn't play "the wizard game" because it wasn't worth the troubles that it would bring. She'd prefer playing other games she enjoyed more and wasn't much of a HP fan growing up. She does have some knowledge of the series since it was bombarded on media and mentioned that she tried out some sorting hat thing and was surprised at the result Ravenclaw

>> No.43161708

>>43161607
That's fine, for some reason I doubt she would have played it either way.
What about other girls?

>> No.43163111

>>43160030
>>43161708
There literally isn't a source.
If someone said that, they were making it up

>> No.43163438

>>43160030
Game looks like shit, it's like Dark Souls with all the dodge rolls I see going on.

>> No.43163480

>>43163438
Didn't ask

>> No.43163601

They told me in bed, sorry.

>> No.43163671

>>43160030
Sister, this drama is almost a week old no one cares anymore

>> No.43163681

>>43163480
Shut the fuck up, people like you are literally causing death of women

>> No.43163771

>>43163681
source?

>> No.43163817

>>43160030
It's fun to play, but not really a good stream game.

>> No.43163977

>>43163681
I won't pay for this shite BUT being told that I would LITERALLY be paying for the wholesale slaughter of trannies does make it tempting.

>> No.43164099

>>43160030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEYHNZ-SlKk

>> No.43164135

>>43160108
I don't see why this is a problem

>> No.43164204

>>43163817
Oh you're holo? Show tits. Unless you're Mori, then it's cool bro don't worry about it.
Also can you say that it's not a good stream game on stream so that your fans don't look schizo for defending you?
>>43164099
Yes thank you but I don't need Gura or Fauna talking about it since I seen already. People were saying that all of the girls don't want to play it

>> No.43164214

>>43164135
Poor sod is only going to get 500fps on CSGO as opposed to 600. Better to end it all now.

>> No.43164416

>>43163111
The Gura one isn't made up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEYHNZ-SlKk
https://files.catbox.moe/i9tw01.mp4

>> No.43164475

>>43160030
>Moona basically does 8-10 hr streams and has to be stopped by other indogs
ogey

>> No.43164523

>>43164416
Yes I know.
The title of that clip is gay.
Also if the girls aren't going to stream it they need proper excuses if someone brings it up to them. Them saying it's from fear of backlash is just embarassing to us.

>> No.43164641

>>43164475
Yes I know, compared to HoloEN Moona and her fans are based.
It's the only segments of the game i've seen in English so far.

>> No.43164723

>>43164523
It’s an understandable reason, but giving into to a heckler’s veto is a bad precedent for hololive. Also altare’s BS didn’t help.

>> No.43164826

Who the fuck cares now? The game solds millions, the trannies lost. If they're not playing the game by now they never had interest in the game or the Harry Potter franchise to begin with. And it's not even a big deal if they play it or not anyways. Unless owning the troons means that much for you.

>> No.43164931

>>43164826
I only care about being right.
It matters to me for one specific reason. I have watched a lot of streams of it in Japanese. I don't know what I was watching, I don't speak Japanese.

>> No.43167884

>>43164723
This. The people who don't care about Hogwarts and think fighting this is just /pol/ culture war stuff to own the troons or whatever are missing the point. You never placate activists. Now that they know they have power, they'll be back every time there's a Twitter controversy.

>> No.43175669

It's a pretty generic game. It's not worth the drama it creates

>> No.43175863

>>43160030
Despite what holo dickriders trying to say, the real reason is the management. >generic >not worth it is just a cope.

>> No.43176036

>>43175669
It is 100% worth it. The only way it wouldn't be worth it is if you like trannies.

>> No.43176958

>>43164826
Not playing it at this point is making a political statement and showing that they, like Altare, approve of the harassment campaign and support "the cause"

>> No.43177015

>>43175863
She would have just said if it was, that's what they've all said before when the reason they haven't played games has been because they're not allowed. She probably genuinely would rather just play something else, and also probably does actually support trans people because she's an American zoomer with dyed blue hair. Even if she doesn't think playing the game is bad, she knows she probably doesn't want to be THAT person.

>> No.43177074

>>43176958
>approve of the harassment campaign and support "the cause"
How is this absolutism any different than people who say that if you play the game you're transphobic? If it was any other game and they'd decided to not play it for any reason, you wouldn't give a shit.

>> No.43177629

>>43175669
It's as simple as not giving a shit.
The real issue here is she made it clear that the troons have power over her, even though they are an insignificant crowd.

>> No.43177902

JPs love this game and the franchise. Don't care about brainrotten EN opinion, but hey, at least Baelz is playing.

>> No.43177992

I think it should be pointed out that this game is really fucking intense on your CPU and GPU. All of Myth besides Mori are on laptops I think while in Japan. Their laptops will not be able to handle streaming and Hogwarts Legacy at the same time.
My specs are not bad (not the worst but better than most people) and I cannot play this game over medium quality, and if I try to have chrome open at the same time chrome would regularly freeze.
Maybe Kiara will play it once she gets back to copy Pekora.

>> No.43178070

I'm gonna keep it real i've never seen any holomyth say ANYTHING about HP
retarded threat

>> No.43178149

>>43160108
lol
lmao

>> No.43178157

>>43160030
Source that they do?

>> No.43178208

>>43178157
they're all braindead women with normalfag tastes in media

>> No.43180856

>>43178070
Kiara has mentioned it, Ina has mentioned not only seeing the films but her parents buying her all the books, Gura doesn't strike me as a big fan or anything but she cared enough to get sorted using the online tool and was bragging about her patronus.

EN management have 100% told them to avoid it both playing the game and talking about it, Gura dodged her entire chat spamming it in her return stream and only mentioned it in members to awkwardly say it wasn't "worth it" to play even when she got back from Japan.

>> No.43184887

>>43160030
>Source?
none

>> No.43184930
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>listening to you fans when they say they'd like you to play something else is.. le bad!
Go watch VShojo

>> No.43185927

>>43184930
>that second post
civil war can't come fast enough. Troons are gonna be hunted like the jews, you can bet on that.

>> No.43186058

>>43184930
>even though trans people will never be able to have nostalgia
what did he mean by this?

>> No.43186310

>>43186058
>trans people can't live long enough to have nostalgia
>we need to stop people from killing the trans!
>the number 1 cause of trans death is themselves
>we have to save them, anons *cocks gun*

>> No.43187361

>>43180856
I thought Gura was cool, chumbuds?

>> No.43187529

>>43184930
Are you trying to say trannies are fans of hololive?

>> No.43187542

>>43184930
I hope Silver plays it again.
And this bitch has people paying thousands for her every month on patreon, she should care about those people not some faggots on twitter who don't watch her.

>> No.43187667

I'm just not going to watch any holomem that doesn't put fans first.
HoloEN is fooling themselves if they think they're irreplaceable.
I'm not going to pay for Holofes4 either, let the trannies buy a ticket

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>>43187667
In before "you're a poorfag that wouldn't pay for tickets anyway"

>> No.43187880

>>43187667
>>43187757
holy based

>> No.43188031

>>43187667
>>43187757
Actual holochad in the flesh

>> No.43188436

This shit is making me want to drop HoloEN. I don’t want to support a bunch of whores that approve of trannies harassing ppl over a game.

>> No.43188515

>>43188436
Yeah and "management said so" is just a copout excuse.
Management role is to support.

>> No.43188575

>>43178070
Gura did in members stream, links here >>43164416

>> No.43188765

>>43187667
>>43187757
I won't either, it ends up on torrent sites like 4hours later so it's literally only Cover that loses

>> No.43189015

>>43187667
>>43187757
>>43188765
Kek well done Cover, play stupid games win stupid prizes

>> No.43189069

>>43164416
>>43188575
Gura's response is the most appropriate. No one should care about whatever the current drama is, the IP should have been dead a decade ago.

>> No.43189211

>>43163681
this is a bad thing how?

>> No.43189220

>>43189069
Who cares about IP, it's triple AAA game that they have permissions for.

>> No.43189377

>>43189220
It's in managements best interest to keep holoEN streams mid and avoid anything that can draw tourists since it makes Tempiss look worse.

>> No.43189537

>>43188436
none of the girls voiced approval of "the cause". Gura basically didn't think it was worth it because of harassment. That said, the one 'holopro' cover streamer that took a position did offer his support.

>> No.43189755

>>43189537
Not playing the game because of imaginary harassment is approval.

>> No.43189778

>>43161607
>because it wasn't worth the troubles that it would bring
What problem? Mute the chat? permaban troons? I don't see any problem

>> No.43189993

>>43189755
>Not playing the game because of imaginary harassment is approval.
There is real harassment going on by a fringe group that should be ignored. But if you're modus operandi is to avoid confrontation, like Gura, you would decide even that isn't worth it.

>> No.43190041

>>43189778
Just have to realise that HoloEN doesn't care about the fans.
The viewer is just to prop them up so they look viable for sponsorships and other shit that gives them money for just existing.
>>43189993
Is nonsense, the fans go through more harassment from other fanbases on a daily basis.

>> No.43190257

>>43190041
>Is nonsense, the fans go through more harassment from other fanbases on a daily basis.
where the fuck do you people even come from

>> No.43190298

>>43190257
Thats funny coming from you

>> No.43190332

>>43190298
What?

>> No.43190369

>Hogwarts Legacy is reportedly the biggest game launch outside of FIFA and Call of Duty since Red Dead Redemption 2. Its opening week across Europe overshadows Elden Ring.

lol nice boycott - streamers that don't jump on just hurt themselves, tho thats okay - I just feel bad for those that are actually fans of the ip

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>>43180856
>>43164723
>>43167884
>Gura doesn't strike me as a big fan or anything but she cared enough to get sorted using the online tool and was bragging about her patronus
But Gura did not know what a patronus was before taking the test and mentionned never watching the movies nor reading the books. You're intentionally misrepresenting her for drama because you're a cocksucking anti, not a fan.

>> No.43190414

>>43190332
Lightbulb.
Anyway it's self evident, the amount of harassment that streamers got is like 6 IPs worth, sometimes more like 2 or 3.
That's barely EU hours level of antis

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>>43190414
So you're literally saying you want the girls to waste their time playing a game they have no interest in just so you can circlejerk with your 2-3 friends?

>> No.43190518

>>43190494
didn't say any of that

>> No.43190567

>>43190494
>they have no interest
>>43160030

>> No.43190601

>>43190518
Then why are you so fucking upset about the girls not playing the wizard game to begin with? You'd be one of those retards bitching about how everyone is playing wizard games but because you're too busy sucking Sargon dick and have your brain permamently damaged by culture war bullshit you can't even completely fucking fathom the fact that maybe maybe the reason why someone isn't playing the fucking wizard game is because they don't fucking give a shit about it, you fucking retard.

>> No.43190645

>>43190601
where the fuck do you people even come from?

>> No.43190742

>>43190645
unironically /pol/

>> No.43190762

>>43190567
>>43190399

>> No.43190789

>>43190762
>the sperg that spammed 50 images in the last thread every single minute

>> No.43190813

>>43190567
>Not a single one of them has talked favorably about harry potter in 2.5 years of streaming

>> No.43190836

>>43190789
wtf source?

>> No.43190846

>>43190813
No that doesn't count because clearly Omegatranny was oppressing them from talking about Harry Potter from the start.

>> No.43190850

>>43190789
The last thread? You're making MULTIPLE THREADS about this shit? Holy fuck man.

>> No.43190875

>you have to play it to own the trannies
>you can't play it to own the chuds
We are..

>> No.43190888

>>43190836
>>43190850
https://boards.4channel.org/vt/thread/43141259#top
he spammed it so it would hit bump limit, he went full schizo

>> No.43190897

>>43186058
Trans people want to act like life before transitioning never happened. They're like born-again Christians.

>> No.43190906

>>43190875
>playing a tranny game to own the trannies

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>>43190906

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>>43190888
Kek, wonder what kind of underwear that person wears

>> No.43190980

>>43190945
Yeah and I didn't make the last thread, I just made this one because he spammed it when I tried to get a source for the claims levvied against girls I watch

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>>43190936

>> No.43191060

>>43191020
>transgender character
HOLY KEK NO WONDER THEY DONT PLAY IT

>> No.43191065

>>43190906
fun fact - only english version has the tranny dialogue and voices...

>> No.43191106

>>43190980
>lie about what the girls have said
>flood threads with images
>"What makes you think im not a fan of Hololive"
kek

>> No.43191110

>>43164135
Less price/performance at the same size

>> No.43191149

>>43160030
The game looks like it plays like shit desu, JPs are just huge harry potter fans

>> No.43191187

>>43191149
Not what I asked.
Source on the girls having no interest in Harry Potter?

>> No.43191293

>>43191187
NTA but Fauna has never really mentioned being interested in Harry Potter outside memes, and she doesn't really stream FOTM games that much to begin with.

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>> No.43191320

>>43191293
Yes I know about Fauna, I ask for evidence for other girls because I actually watch streams

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>> No.43191518

>>43191320
I don't have sources but I have vague memories of pretty much all of Myth talking positively about HP

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>> No.43191620

>>43191320
>>43191518
>i don't watch the girls but please spoonfeed me drama material
Too bad. None of them have talked favorably about the series in their entire career.

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>> No.43191647

>>43191620
Source?

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>> No.43191718

>>43167884
I hear what you're saying, but overall the campaign to cancel this game has blown up in their faces pretty spectacularly. All they've really done is give it free publicity, there's no way it would have set all-time twitch stream records without their "help".

>> No.43191734

>>43191647
>source of them not saying something
The source is you being unable to povide source >>43191518

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>> No.43191783

>>43191734
You said they've never spoken favourably. That's different from saying they've never spoken about it.
If they've never spoken about it, then OP is asking for a source because he was repeatedly lied to.

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>> No.43191859

>>43191783
>can't prove they ever talked about it at all
>tries to false flag as a fan

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>>43191859
Thats what sisters do, they argue and try to pretend their fans.
I don't buy it, I have been /here/ too long

>> No.43191942

>>43191647
>>43191783
The only girl who mentioned Harry Potter was Gura in a membership's stream >>43164099 >>43164416
If you want more information than that, the try searching YouTube or Google.

>> No.43191968

>>43191783
>prove they never said it
oooook let's just skip to the part where you make a new thread withan AI generated voice clip of them talking about your series so you can better harass them for not giving a shit about the game

>> No.43191990

>>43191968
Not what was asked. The anon tried to claim they never spoke favourably about it. Source?

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>> No.43192092

>>43191912
Why do you keep desperately trying to prove that you're a fan with reused easily fakeabke screenshots while asking for material to anti and harass the girls with?

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>> No.43192100

>>43191990
They intentionally choose their words like that to try and mislead people

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>UHHH SOURCE???
>SOUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRCE?????
>*provides source*
>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT

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>> No.43192172

>>43192112
>*provides source*
doko?

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>>43192100
>>43191990
>source that they never said something
>please take me seriously

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>> No.43192229

>>43192187
You said they've never spoken favourably. That's different from saying they've never spoken about it.
If they've never spoken about it, then OP is asking for a source because he was repeatedly lied to.

>> No.43192238

>>43192172
youtube.com/@gawrgura
youtube.com/@takanshikiara
youtube.com/@watsonamelia

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>> No.43192283

>>43192229
>OP is asking for souce that they never said something, please take him ( me ) serioulsy
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.43192288

These trannies aren't even good at larping as fans, at least sisters are threadreaders kek

>> No.43192322

Wtf is this tranny narrative that they have to be super fans in order to play the game? It’s a solid action rpg that would bring them numbers but they are all ignoring it. So they either support “the cause” themselves or enough ppl at holopro do making em to ignore it.

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>> No.43192363

>>43192322
>It’s a solid action rpg
>>43191020

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>> No.43192397

>>43192322
Aye they're obviously not fans and don't even know the community as shown>>43192363

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>> No.43192497

>>43190789
>>43190888
kek I thought you were exaggerating, bizarre behaviour

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>> No.43192586

Playing it is not a good idea business-wise as an EN vtuber, unless you cater to /pol/ types already.
Moralfags can post on imageboards all day, but money talks.

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>> No.43192650

>>43192497
In this situation it works for my advantage(OP)
>>43192586
Good thing that it means I wont be paying for Holofes and that trannies only ever SC to write a giant message about themselves and their personal lives

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>NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHH PLAY MY TRANNY GAAAAAAAAAME IT HAS WIZORDS AND REPETITIVE COMBAT

>> No.43192707

>>43192679
>he says as we just finished the pokemon arc

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>> No.43192766

>>43192707
>implying they watch streams

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>>43192650
>Retarded hololive anti and harasser won't be paying for holofes
Who the FUCK asked?

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>> No.43192946

>>43160030
>>43190888
Read both threads and OPs concern is valid. People are lying about what the girls have said and he is simply asking for evidence

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>> No.43193012

>>43192946
>>43192283

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>>43192885
https://files.catbox.moe/ao0ino.jpg
Ogey tempiss enjoyer

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>>43161607
I'm loving the controversy and self destruction going on online over HWL, but I don't really give much of a shit about the game either. It's always looked painfully average to me, like any other ubishit openworld game, and even if there was no controversy I'd really rather Gura play something like Hi-Fi Rush if she's gotta play a new game.

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>NOOOO LET ME ANTI THE GIRLS AND LAUNCH A HOLOFES BOYCUT

>> No.43193106

>>43193012
>>43192946

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>> No.43193160

>>43193048
Holy based

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>> No.43193209

>>43192885
>anti and harasser
Source?

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>>43193209
>>43192650

>> No.43193258

>>43193218
So neither harassment or insulting the girls?

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>> No.43193325

>>43193258
Trannies just say things and hope they stick, they don't have any arguments as shown in the thread

>> No.43193346

this game is a hatewatcher magnet. Everyone who avoids it is blessed with a few days/weeks of slightly fewer hatewatchers in their own chat since those people are off being militant elsewhere.

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>>43193258
>>43187667

>> No.43193417

>>43193346
I disagree, they would only bring 20 CCV at most. It would bring 5k+ tourists though

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>>43187667
>hololive is replaceable, please come watch nijisanji with me
no

>> No.43193469

>>43193407
>neither harassment or insulting the girls.
You're just reiterating that some won't be paying for Holofes4.

>> No.43193496

>>43192650
>Good thing that it means I wont be paying for Holofes and that trannies only ever SC to write a giant message about themselves and their personal lives
That's fair on your part, and statistically it was almost inevitable that some people would (partially) cease doing business with Cover no matter what they did. You're right insofar that trannies are a tiny minority even in burgerland and often not too well-off - it's cis people who align with them that outshine the people who hate them economically, politically and culturally in the First World.

>> No.43193511

>>43193095
It's a solid game if you were looking for something to fill the "magic adventure" niche but idk if it would be a good fit for Gura

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>> No.43193556

>>43193511
pretty much. Hi-Fi would be better given she's already known for rhythm games, and played through the DMC games.

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>> No.43193595

They need to play something. I don't know how much more Holocure I can handle

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If Hogwarts Legacy was 1/100 the game that hi-fi rush is, Gura would be making plans to play it on stream.

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>> No.43193670

>>43191620
https://www.youtube.com/live/F83AOHeRtIA?feature=share&t=5800
Started reading the first book by herself, parents ended up buying the rest of them for her

>> No.43193677

>>43193616
Yeah maybe but gura could get 30k if she played

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>> No.43193733

>>43193670
Weird, that guy was trying to say he was a real fan

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>> No.43193748

>>43193670
Ina is in Japan and does not have a PC to play the game on right now. Also has a showcase this weekend

>> No.43193783

>>43193748
Who asked?
>None of them have talked favorably about the series in their entire career.

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>>43193677
>My tranny game will definitely still be a buff in April
???

>> No.43193809

>>43160108
let me guess, you need "more"

>> No.43193821

>>43193784
>God of War 2 wouldn't be a buff if holos played it
???

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>>43193783

>> No.43193848

>>43160030
redpill me on Ayame, does she really despise gajins or is it just a meme?

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>>43193821
God of War 2 is good game

>> No.43193906

>>43193865
I disagree, tripe ARPG fare

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>>43193906
Yeah, I know, not enough tranny characters for you, boycottholofeschama

>> No.43193992

>>43193976
Cope

>> No.43194001

>>43160030
>N-noooooo you have to consoom and play this random fag game to prove you join my le ebin and based redpilled culture war cause reeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!1
Get your fucking politics out of my fucking hobby retard. Gura and the rest of them who don't play this dogshit game are based for not wanting to involve themselves in this retarded console war 'controversy' bullshit. The shork is right, it really isn't worth it, not only because it would invite harassment from twitter freaks for weeks on end but also because it would equally invite braindead /pol/fags shitting up the fanbase afterwards.

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>> No.43194051

>>43194001
It's just a game retard, none of what you have said has happened to any other streamer that has played it.

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>>43194051
>Please watch my other streamers
No.

>> No.43194200

>>43194051
Pretty much, streamers seem to only have to spend 30 seconds muting and the controversy is suddenly over

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>> No.43198805

>>43160030
it sucks

>> No.43198845

>>43198805
Didn't ask

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