Hunter myth General

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1st or 0th session when?

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>>4291330
v5 is doing pretty well, and personally I haven't played v20 since it released since I vastly prefer the rules.
Obviously there's still a lot of people running 20th but that's to be expected I know someone that still runs second edition rules

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>>4299525
Chargen was pretty much session 0.
If I remember the timeline correctly Session 1 is going to be in July and June will have 1 character introduction stream or video per week.
Might only start in 2 weeks given Mori's sudden extended break

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>>4299525
1 on 1 sessions during June then session 1 is in July. The one on 1 sessions won't be streamed but each girl is going to get a character profile video

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>>4299491
Ah yes the long awaited /vt/ /tg/ unity

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>>4299781
>Might only start in 2 weeks
Unbearable.

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>>4299996
I could swear they said that the individual sessions would be either edited videos or streams depending on the workload of the holo.

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>>4300552
Oh I must've missed that second part, I thought they would all be edited videos. It would make sense since a lot of the session will be going over how to play the system and that'll be the same with each girl

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Which one has the guts to GM a homebrew setting? Thinking way too far ahead, but learning systems and creating stuff is fun.

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>>4301086
Ina will probably do a homebrew CoC game at some point

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>>4301086
Literally all nWoD cities and the vast majority of WoD cities are homebrewed.
If you mean a completely homebrewed system none of them and it'd be a retarded idea to begin with.

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>Critical Role declining in viewership
>The Adventure Zone killed off almost all its fans' goodwill after the recent disastrous campaign
>LA by Night still on hiatus
>every other actual play is literally-who tier
It's over Hunterbros, we won...

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>>4299491
It always feels like something is lacking on those arts since Calli doesn't have a PC.

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>>4299525
next 4 weeks are character indtroductions (I think it will be like a tutorial, maybe?), 1 per week and in july we will have the first real session

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>>4300609
>It would make sense since a lot of the session will be going over how to play the system and that'll be the same with each girl
Maybe each session will teach different things?

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>>4301930
It's one on one sessions

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>>4302243
Which other girls can watch and ask Calli if they won't understand anything.

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I can already envision the amount of backseating that chat will do when they start for real. The worst part will be people constantly recommending other games they should play instead

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>>4302451
Chat in a fullmember collab is way too fast for backseating.

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>>4302451
>implying chat has any idea of how to play

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>>4302637
true. The amount of people that will have gone to whitewolf wikia or 1d4chan to find out lore on Hunter the Vigil will be a constant source of pain.

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>Everyone was doomposting about the TTRPG collab before it started, assuming it'd be a disaster
>Now everyone is positive about it, non-stop discussion ever since the character creation stream
What went so right

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>>4302637
Calli was pretty good in explaining things.

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>>4302637
I've never seen that stop a chat before.

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>>4302788
The shitposters found something else to doompost about leaving only the actual fans who'd obviously be positive.

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>>4302637
Chat almost never knows how to play any of the games they are backseating.

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These clueless fanartists are in for a rude awakening once they realize that Hunter takes place in modern day and isn't just generic D&D fantasy.

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>>4302788
Calli was prepared and Watoto happened

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>>4303700
That and the fact that they're all literally human, so no Ina looking like a squidling.

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>>4303733
And Ina is going to be drawing official designs with Yuul looking nothing like herself

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>>4303700
I wonder if girls themselves know it except maybe Ina.

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>>4303700
>implying watoto doesn't dress in homemade fantasy clothes to avoid the tracking chips the government puts in consumer clothes

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>>4303882
If you think about it, you can justify absolutely anything this way.

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>>4301709
>The only good Rollplay series ended five years ago.
It hurts.

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>>4303931
That's the magic of Watoto, baby

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What are the chances these sessions will bring in people who will watch the TTRPG and the TTRPG only?

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>>4304044
Seems like there's already a few of those people, looking at /tg/. Also TTRPG stream series are pretty popular right now in general.

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>>4304044
100%. With an audience this size, there will be at least one person who does that.

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>>4304044
Probably a few considering this is an extremly niche game, some people are bound to watch basically anything they can get of it.
But Hunter is probably the least popular NWoD game, which is the second least popular version of the WoD (only if you count 5e which somehow manages to be even less popular).
The potential audience for it is 'tiny'.

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>>4304044
Any at all but not that many. Either the game or the girls themselves will filter casual TTRPG fans, but there's probably a few people looking for a game that'll latch on.

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>>4304044
Well, me. I'm not really interested in Vtubers (not into streamers in general), but I like to see RPG games, specially something that is not D&D.

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>>4300100
>long awaited
https://youtu.be/5vy2kIKmDJU
https://youtu.be/a1W8m_up-2Y
https://youtu.be/I7ff3OIkWPI
https://youtu.be/j83sSAQKkKA
https://youtu.be/Z02Ig6qJYBs
https://youtu.be/n0BZYuQkabg
https://youtu.be/664rKOf8XoE
https://youtu.be/Az-weslGJK4

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>>4304044
Looking at all those people here crying about a recent decline of TTRPG streams I'd say it's pretty high.

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>>4304219
Unfortunately the vast majority of us can't speak Japanese

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>>4304327
If Moona can learn Japanese then you can too.

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>>4304353
I wish I was Moona

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>>4304353
Moona doesn't even know Indonesian

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>>4304112
>only if you count 5e which somehow manages to be even less popular
Anon I'm sorry, but what the fuck are you talking about? The literal only way you can come to this conclusion is if your sole source of feedback is /tg/

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>>4302685

The lore is "you are a plain ass human, go out and kill all the other more interesting creatures in our setting".

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>>4304219
Man, Fubuki sure does love her tabletops, huh.

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>>4303700
This. I'm feeling a mix of autistic rage, superiority and disgust for every single artist that I see drawing the group.

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>>4304732
I'm pretty happy since most Kiara art is at least decent and the only commong mistake is giving her an older rifle, which doesn't detract much

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>>4304353
Anon, you need to be really fluent to understand what's going on in those streams.

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>>4304732
A lot of people don't understand the idea of modern fantasy somehow, despite twilight, vampire diaries, dresden, and a bunch of other modern books/shows/movies

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>>4304794
There's really not much you can go wrong when the description is "Falconer with an Owl and Gun(s)"
Though pretty much all fanart being "Holo cosplaying as their character" is somewhat boring but to be expected without "official" designs

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>>4302788
Doomposting is a constant on the universe that will always happen, same as numberfagging and tribalists. Some far away place in another galaxy a jellyfish being made of pure energy is calling other jellyfish faggots and telling them to evaporate themselves because why should they exist.

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>>4304353
Hololive will have closed down and all the talents graduated long before then.

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>>4304513
>The literal only way you can come to this conclusion
is if you see the sales numbers and how often games are actually played.

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>>4304112
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>>4304940
V5 is kind of like D&D 4e in that plenty of new players like it but it makes old players seethe.

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>>4304940
>Sales numbers
Where would you get those?
Because the only publically accessible numbers I know of are kickstarter backers where v5 is doing pretty well for it's supplements
>how often games are actually played.
That is highly dependend on your sample population, are you using roll20 or anything else?

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>>4304841
People proably heard "hunter" and immediately thought of Bloodborne. There's also my personal rrat - modern fantasy is a popular staple of the young adult demographic, so many people find it off-putting.

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>>4299996
July? They really need to tighten up the schedule. That's nuts.

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>>4305022
I have literally played since 2nd edition and I like it a lot.
I can see where some people have problems with it but none of the deficits outweigh the positives for me

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>>4305068
They need four 1 on 1 sessions before that to make character intros.

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No, dummies, the fanartists defaulted to drawing fantasy-esque outfits because they immediately associate RPG with D&D, or thought Hunter the Vigil was a bit more over the top like a Hollywood movie (not that you can't play HtV like a sunglasses+trenchcoat sort of game, but you get my point).

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>>4303700
I'm going to enjoy all of their confused reactions that it isn't d&d fantasy.

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>>4305099
Once a week then? Fair enough, I guess. Hopefully that means it's a once a week thing.

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>>4305161
Mori said they'd be playing bimonthly.

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>>4304611
And i love her for that

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>>4303700
But they (hopefully) watched the stream and saw Gura (or whoever) want to take a merit that involves driving. That should clue them in that this is a modern-day setting, though they discussed if the drive skill also applies to flying and metioned flying under one´s own power, which only mages (different rulebook and part of the universe) should be able to do.
The artists could also say any fantasy-looking art is Alternative art.

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Of all the TTRPG games you have personally been in, how many would be yab and not allowed to be played on-stream by Cover?
Scion, Only War, and Eclipse Phase for me since religion x2 for the first two and politics for the latter. Only the d&d 5e oneshot makes me not completely locked out.

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>>4305068
Mori is taking a week off (recently extended by 3 days) then they have once a week 1 on 1 sessions. Then it's twice a month for 5 sessions to finish "Season 1"

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>>4305233
>which only mages (different rulebook and part of the universe) should be able to do.
Laughs in Lucifuge

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>>4305247
Wraith with the charnel houses of Europe supplement.
Delta green cause it model character psychology and the downwards spiral. Jokingly called “the wife beater simulator”.
Also Myfarog.

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>>4305247
In the case of Scion couldn´t you restrict your group to playing greco-roman, Norse, and possibly Shinto mythology, and you´d be fine?
Handle the mythlogy sort of like in Stargate and you shouldn´t offend normal people.

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>>4304841
Which is surprising. Specially when you have a popular show that was basically Hunter airing for multiple years (I'm talking about Supernatural)

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>>4299491
>>4300100
Kiara is going to be a gunslinger with two revolvers stop giving her rifles.

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It's the character creation stage. It's not the actual session yet. It's like getting a proposal for your proposal. I'm not going to be optimistic nor be pessimistic. I have said before that Amelia and Gura might bomb this. Amelia looks like she might bomb it but in a very funny memorable way. Gura is hopeless. Not unless she studies in that whole month I have no high hopes for her. Kiara changed my mind because she was able to manage herself during the whole collab. I never had any doubts she would do bad in character creation though. Her actions and decisions in the actual sessions might. Ina is Ina. Calli is already showing some signs that she might bend too much if given enough push from the members. I hope she doesn't. I hope she actually does maintain the schedule but I am not hopeful for that.

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>>4305497
>Revolvers
My girl better be using Mausers or Steyr-Hahns, but I agree on the rifles.

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>>4305106
After a few campaigns most hunters are literally superhuman in abilities and are routinely carrying around exotic weapons gear and maybe a curse or two. If you kill some vampires or take down a cult that worships 100% real demons wearing a silly hat and cape is okay by me. At worst chalk it up to the characters indulging in some chunni tendencies

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>>4305442
It really depends on how Cover would even view such a game. 2e does expand origins to things not directly sourced from god groins.

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>>4305594
Nah I thought she meant her brother was like a hunter in the literal sense. No reason she can’t have some pistols and keep a rifle and or shotgun around for when it’s needed. I mean most serious gun owners end up with a few of each and they aren’t fighting ghouls on a regular basis

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>>4304892
>"Holo cosplaying as their character"
I like this. Even if character design is different, there should be things hinting at an original one, it's just cool.

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>>4305498
>Gura is hopeless.
I guarantee that by the end of summer gura will have dropped out and been replaced by coco or ollie.

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>>4301709
Arcadum still has somehow survived.

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I feel bad for Fubuki. Mori is doing something special and she can't join.

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>>4299491
>gura is tall
I know this is them roleplaying but this feels so cursed.

>>4301791
does feel almost like it's out of balance, doesn't it?

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>>4305916
That sounds... fucking great, actually?

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Reminder that Paradox literally had to intervene and send Cover a notice in order for the collab to go through, they 100% have eyes on this board and are looking into any threads related on to it in order to salvage their disastrous handling of WoD. There is a huge probability that any V5 apologist you see is a shill.

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>>4306078
It was probably t2 members spamming their twitter when Mori said it might be cancelled.

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>>4306078
>everyone who doesn't agree with me is a shill
Jesus Christ anon, you know that people can have different opinions, right?

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>>4306078

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Has there been fanart of Ina as a female asian driver, running over pedestrians yet?

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I feel like Gura’s character should just be an incredible chunni but otherwise normal teen girl who gets away with everything because she is incredibly cute and is somewhat delusional. She can then actually get skills and Powers along the way. Plays to her strengths

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>>4306273
Wait till it happens in the campaign impatient Anon.

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>>4303772
>Ina is going to be drawing official designs
oh shit really? thats awesome, when did she say that?

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>>4306078
Cool, another literal crazy person on this board.

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>>4306883
A few different streams. She most recently mentioned it near the beginning of her yakisoba stream

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>>4299491
Why are they all forced to play humans? Fucking Mori

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>>4306078
Paradox if you're watching this, PLEASE add more content to your Stellaris DLCs, Nemesis was a disgrace.

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>>4307100
World of Darkness is a secret world of vampires/werewolves setting, there's no halflings or anything like that.

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>>4306078
They were in the chat so it's pretty obvious. This thing is the most watched TTRPG campaign on youtube if people like this it could be the best advert since Bloodlines.

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>>4307100
Go mail some shadowrun books to cover if you want them to try something else.

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>>4307100
UOOOOOOH, NOPAN GOBLIN

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>>4307194
There are actually. They are Changelings. Humans kidnapped by Fae to their world who managed to escape and return.

It's guaranteed one or two will appear in the campaign. Girls love changelings.

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>>4307100
It´s an urban fantasy game about humans organizing to fight vampires and other supernatural dangers and becoming more supernatural themselves in the process, it´ s not D&D.

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>>4307100
>Fucking Mori
I wish

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>>4307100
nonpointed ears are the best

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>>4307100
Do people really not know WoD? VtM Bloodlines is one of the most praised RPG games ever made.

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>>4307499
They are pretty good.

Anyways, I wonder if this will start a bigger Vtuber trend. With different groups playing different games.

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>>4307513
Usually people don't make that connection. It's like the Persona-Shin Megami Tensei thing.

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>>4299491
where is the goblin?

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>>4307674
I mean, there's literally hunters in the game

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>>4307771
It's World of Darkness Hunters, humans only.

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>>4307339
>it´ s not D&D.
Which begs the question: Why not pick D&D?

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How can this happen when we know for a fact that Calli graduated?

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>>4307806
I watched the character creation stream and Watoto or whatever it was called was introduced as a goblin.

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>>4307823
Because it's a crappy system with super generic overdone medieval fantasy setting? DnD is McDonalds of TTRPG.

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>>4307823
Because DnD is shit

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>>4307823
Hunter is easier to pick up and Calli is familiar with it already.

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>>4304937
Kek

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>>4307833
Simply get another GM?

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>>4307851
Goblin like not literal goblin.

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>>4307851
*goblin-like

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>>4307873
>Calli
Who?

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>>4307957
GM.

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Was Gura kinda forced into this? Almost feels like she did not like the idea but agreed to participate because it would be awkward for her to be the only one to be left out.
Also notice how Kiara and Calli pointed out at the end that it would be totally fine for some members to leave and be replaced, because the "game is not for everybody".
Gura probably agreed to a couple of streams, then will die and get out of there. That is my prediction at least.

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>>4308073
Gura seemed to be the second most interested in it after Kiara.
Also Kiara only mentioned adding players potentially which I'm pretty sure is going to be VSinger

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>>4308072
Anonchama...

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>>4308175
Huh? Gura came without a character prepared. She only had a vague notion of "somebody in the shadows" which sounded like she made it up on the spot. There is not even a name for her characters. Then there were a couple of instances where Gura clearly stopped paying attention and had to ask what they were just talking about. And if we ignore these questions, then she did not say anything at all.

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>>4308073
Depends on how successful she will be able to roleplay her character, I feel it's her main point of interest.

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>>4307100
Please, shoot yourself in the head

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>>4308072
Gay Mori?

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>>4308175
Eh... I disagree, in terms of interest I would rank the girls this way:
Kiara = Ina >>> Gura > Ame
The first two paid good attention to Mori's explanation and builded solid characters with organized sheets, Gura was half asleep and Ame was just in her usual collab mode going with the flow

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>>4304044
This is lrobably the smartest collab so far.

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>>4304219
Fubuki playing with EN for a drop in session would be interesting and they can lean on the language barrier by having her be a character straight off the plane from Japan.

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>>4308280
>She only had a vague notion
So like literally everyone except Kiara.

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>>4308280
You've never played a tabletop campaign before, have you anon? This is the default for a new player.

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>>4307100
I'll be honest, this is exactly what I thought in my mind for Ame's character as she was describing it. Ashamed it's not a thing.

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>>4308280
Coming up with a name is the hardest shit, always one of the last things I do when preparing a character. Also her character wasn't any less "complex" than Ame.

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>>4308397
>fubuki literally shows up as a Japanese fox spirit that only talks in riddles.
Shed be down for that and it'd be kino.

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>>4308307
That's not the Mori I know...

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>>4308073
Gura seemed lost at first but was getting into it later. Cali even agreed to bend rules a bit and give her magical merits.

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>>4308637
Yeah, our Mori is a straight boy.

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I am a fa/tg/uy who knows nothing about vtubers. What should I expect from each of the players and the GM?

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>>4307100
>Gura sized Ame
Ina fears this.

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>>4305614
What non-chuuni would go around killing vampires and shit for no good reason? If they are just going around trying not to die, sure, maybe a loss of a loved one.

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>>4308714
Expect amateur hour. I'd honestly be surprised if it held any real entertainment value for people who are ACTUALLY into TTRPG's. But I don't really into them myself so seeing them done second hand seems entertaining enough for me.

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>>4308714
Expect Calli to be doing constant tard wrangling. She's the only one who has actually played WoD. Kiara has only ever played old DnD with her family, so she's the only one with any actual conception of how to play a roll playing game. Gura and Ame are going to constantly doing dumb shit like you would if you were playing a video game with save states. Ina will be super quiet and you'll hardly know she is there until she actually does something that moves the plot along while everyone else is fucking about and doing nothing.

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>>4308714
There is a thread in /tg/ faggot.
Expect two of them to stumble, one of them to be THAT GUY, one of them to never say or do anything, and the GM to be flexible with the rules.
Overall, peak cringekino.

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>>4308627
>Gura: Hmm... t-tall dark lady, banjo I g-guess?
>Ame: Conspiracy theorist fuck that wants to fuck with the establishment and works with mushrooms
Yes. Same "complexity".

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>>4308881
I don't see a significant difference, neither have a personality, motives, or backstory established. There's tons of work to be done on all the characters.

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D&D would be a bad choice for the HoloEN girls because there's a ton of baseline knowledge that most nerds know through osmosis that they just don't have, but that their characters would. What's a kobold? How does magic work? What's a fireball?

For Hunter they are really just normal albeit oddball humans who find themselves in conflict with the supernatural. The world is just the modern world, so they all are familiar with how it works, it's culture, what's available, etc. In a D&D campaign they have to ask, is there a guy we can buy swords from? Is there someone who can cast spells for us? In Hunter they know they can roll up to a southern Walmart and walk out with a arsenal of guns and several thousands rounds of ammo, and most questions can plausibly be answered with a cellphone and google. It let's them focus on the roleplay and story creation side without overwhelming them with setting/system specific mechanics. Their characters really shouldn't know a lot about magic, or mummies, or whatever, so they can learn organically with their characters.

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>>4308998
One is a solid concept that you can imagine in game despite the lack of backstory or personality, the other one is just random ideas mashed together that you can't imagine in play

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>>4309025
I don't know why, but mori's description made me imagine some slavic shithole.

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>>4309025
D&D is also a rules heavy game larping as a rules lite game and none of them would actually read what their abilities do or how spellcasting works. It also has fuckall rules for when you're not fighting things, which isn't what they want to focus on in the game.

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>>4309129
The fuck are you talking about? You can't imagine a sneaky, rogue-type seducer in WoD? You're dumb anon.

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>>4309025
>D&D would be a bad choice for the HoloEN girls

It's kinda hilarious how people pretend that DnD is a newbie friendly game when in reality it's a goddamn mess with hundreds of spells and dozens of talents where one bad move could fuck your character for many sessions.

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>>4309133
Most of America is a shithole. Especially in WoD where you have literal monsters eating people in the shadows.

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>>4309454
I don't disagree, but for some reason it wasn't the first thing that came to mind at the time.

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>>4309419
DnD is newbie friendly, fuckers just need to read and understand what to add on a roll and what a 2d10, 4d6 and etc, mean. It's newbie friendly, not braindead friendly.

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>>4306078
Who cares, the pr/marketing side of paradox is unironically the most competent branch of the company at the moment, what with the TTS collab a few months back and now saving Mori's campaign.
It's not their fault the rest of paradox has no idea what they are doing.

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>>4309585
No it's not. I played DnD games with newbies. You need to literally handhold them with tables and shit because they can't remember half of what their characters can do at fucking lv4.

And it's generally not a very good system. It does magic pretty well but core mechanics are shit. At low levels random crit can kill you and at higher levels it's a goddamn video game.

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>>4309419
>>4309585
Mechanics aside my biggest problem with D&D is setting. Either you use a premade, in which case your players literally have to do homework to understand basic questions like, is this city a major trade hub? Do races get along here? Or you go homebrew with is a metric fuckton of work and still often feels kind of empty.

On the other hand if you set things in not-Chicago or not-Tokyo you can immediately inject things like yeah there's an ethnic minority enclave over there, that part of town has a ton of crime and empty warehouses. There's a railroad nearby, there's a city college nearby with a chem lab, there's 4 hospitals in this city and all of them have corpses in the morgue at any given time, etc. The players can know this all without the GM telling them or doing specific research, even if they are only vaguely familiar with the city in question. And if someone doesn't know that city,... maybe that's the oddball European immigrant who talks to birds, so her ignorance/curiosity can be worked in to the story.

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>>4309553
WoD was written in the 90s, so you gotta imagine shitty crime filled 90s US cities except the crime is done by monsters and not just minorities

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>>4307823
Becuase DnD works only as something of a braindead detour and not main game.

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>>4310163
90s America was fucking utopic compared to 2020s America or even 2010s America, anon.

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>>4310252
You're a fucking zoomer if you think that anon. I'm talking about the cities and we had the Rodney King riots and you'd get mugged or shot if you took a wrong turn. Things have gotten way better, or else you won't hear about gentrification all the damn time.

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>>4309768
There is a reason why modern fantasy like WoD is popular among girls. You don't need to be a turbo nerd to get anything.

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>>4310252
Ha ha nope. Internet retards really twisted your view.

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How many fantasy Japan systems are out there? L5R is not the only one right? Fantasy Japan would really fit a lot of JP Holos.

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>>4310252
>zoomers are this retarded.
By every metric things are better. You just hear about every tragedy no matter how minor because of the internet and 24/7 news cycle.

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>>4310607
Most japanese rpg systems are heavily videogame-ified.

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>>4310643
It has less to do with zoomers being retards and more to do with idiots pushing this entire "west is falling apart" crap on the internet. You are supposed to believe that past was better and we are all going towards doom.

Anyways, WoD is darker than reality and it's not just the monsters. Back when it was made it was something like Robocop style near future + supernatural.

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>>4310163
The monsters are still minorities, last game I played we had to bust a group of wight supremacists.

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>>4310946
Yeah i couldn't come up with a better joke. Sorry

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>>4299491
I am unironically hyped for this. Can't wait, wish that they would start already instead of in a month

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>>4310860
A lot of 80s and early 90s stuff extrapolated that the growing crime rates would just keep getting worse, hence Robocop, Escape from LA, etc.

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>>4311088
That's why Cyberpunk was born as a genre.

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>>4311088
Were they wrong?

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>>4310860
>You are supposed to believe that past was better and we are all going towards doom.
this is true though

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>>4311048
>instead of in a month
Same, but
>they have other shit to do
>they need to flesh out their characters more
>they need to come up with rough drafts for their characters
>Ina needs to draw them
>Mori needs to brush up on the rules
>Mori needs to come back from her break
>they'll be doing it every 2 weeks, which is not too infrequent. Mori is aware that doing it once every 3 weeks or once a month will kill the momentum immediately

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>>4311196
Did we build a wall around LA turning into a lawless wasteland? Did we rebuild Detroit into a shining metropolis?

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>>4311231
Yeah they were wrong about the cool shit but the crime getting worse seems about right.
There's less organized crime but the low tier gangbangers are mightier than ever.

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>>4301326
ina is into corruption of champions?

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>>4311203
No, it's not, you fucking doomer. I'm pretty cynical myself, but even I don't spout bs like that. The world already ended in 2012. Doom is here, we've been living it for the past decade.

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>>4311299
B- Based?!

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>>4311307
it can always get worse

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>>4311279
Retard, see >>4310561

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>>4311279
>low tier gangbangers are mightier than ever
Anon, you couldn't wear red or blue on the bus in LA in the 80s/90s

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>>4311212
Yeah, but seeing how long it took from the announcement to the first stream, I had expected they would have had everything prepared already.

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>>4311299
She is a tentacle monster after all

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>>4311417
I'm just glad it happening at all.

[Anonymous No.]

Was pretty neutral on deadbrap but it's pretty based she picked a non-D&D game. Is Ina going to do CoC?

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>>4311368
Convenient how you get a chart that only shows the peak in the 90s and leaves out the 60s.

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>>4311502
I fail to see how this proves the "gangbangers are mightier than ever"

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>>4311368
if i had to pick JUST one chart that sums it all up it would probably be this one, but us suicide rate 1981-2016 is pretty good too

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>>4311578
Fair enough. Gangbangers are mightier than they were decades ago and things are worse than they used to be.
Things are still shite.

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>>4311502
World of Darkness didn't come out in the 60s so I don't see how that's relevant to this discussion.

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>>4311485
DnD's popularity is very overrated. A lot of idiots who only ever play DnD play it but among actual TTRPG nerds many other systems are very popular.

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>>4311703
I don't have any numbers but I'm willing to bet DnD is as big as all the other TTRPGs combined

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>>4308634
>"Tiara, translate" is the equivalent of "Weebs, translate"

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>>4310607
How fantasy we talking?

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knock it off jannus, discussion branching out into new topics is how human conversation works

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>>4311761
You'd be correct.

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>>4311703
CoC is very popular in Japan, but in the US it's still D&D. Getting a d&d group irl isn't super hard, but any non-D&D or PF game is harder. I've only been able to set up 2 CoC games and 1 Monster and Other Childish things campaigns, vs several D&D.

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>>4311761
>>4311828
Yes but like 80% of those DnD players are complete normies who only know DnD.

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>>4311911
Ah I just realized that's what you were saying in the original post. Yeah I can't deny that. All the other TTRPGs would kill for the normalfag market though.

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>>4310163
>so you gotta imagine shitty crime filled 90s US cities
I mean, east slavic countries on 90% consist of "peak Detroit" level cities, so i can understand why anon's first thought was about "slavic shitholes"

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>>4312109
That's fair, especially with a bunch of European folklore inspired monsters running around.

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>>4312109
Anon even Belarus is not as bad as Detroit.

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>>4312237
It was more dangerous in Chicago than it was in Iraq during the Iraq war, for Americans at least.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if she's gonna die with platforms.

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>>4307823

Despite all the "HURDUR DND SUX" comments the truth is Hasbro owns the rights to it and they extremely pissy about anyone touching their property even if they scaled D&D to like 6 people after 4th E didnt bring in the WOW/Fortnite crowd they wanted

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>>4312544
I know an insider working high up in large store chain and DnD people are extremely petty assholes.

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>>4312285
only in specific neighborhoods.
it's not like the entire city is a hellscape, you just need to stay away from the ghetto.

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>>4308073
I think she was just sleepy

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>>4312285
Lol

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>>4312572
>>4312544
Hasbro is a shitty company, in no small part because of things like monopoly and toys just no longer being a thing. A company like Hololive would probably have to actually get permission to do it. Choasim, the call of cthulhu owners are pretty easy to work with and whoever owns WoD seems pretty good too (Mori said she got permission to stream it). Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Wotc would hate Gura because muh pedos.

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>>4312627

and anywhere near a train the ghetto trash gets off at. Which is like half the city and they disappear on one of the train lines once they are done clocking you from behind while the cops cower afraid of being called racist again

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>>4312285
It's basically only in certain cities and only a couple blocks in those cities. Your chance of being a victim of random crime in any street in America is same as it is the safer European countries. It's just that a few blocks of most major cities are Baghdad.

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>>4312237
That's a bold statement. When it comes to crime, sure, maybe. Autocratic states always have very low crime rates and very clean streets, it is known.
But when it comes to living conditions, income, recreation... oh boy. Especially rural territories. Smaller cities and villages are a parallel world, a nightmare dimension.
People living there would sacrifice half of their lifetime if they had a chance to live the rest of it in Detroit.
t. Belarusian

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With all this talk about shitty inner cities, what city do you think Mori will set their campaign in, or will it be entirely made up?

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>>4313161
Probably a not-LA or some other generic metropolis.

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>>4313092

Its the polar opposite in the USA. The big cities are horrific but smaller cities rural areas and other places far from there are damn near paradise

>>4313161

The WOD doesnt really do made up places and has always focused on real places with a "Slightly shitter on the surface far worse under it" filter

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>>4312686
Ame was literally half dead. She really needs to fix her sleeping habits.

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>>4313161
Possibly Philadelphia, since that's the "default" setting for Hunter 1e. Possibly >>4313289. Or possibly a fictional city so she doesn't have to stick to any real aspects of a city.

>>4313352
>The WOD doesnt really do made up places
In terms of published content you're correct, but I have seen multiple people run WoD games in fictional locales.

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>>4313161
I expect either Tokyo, or random semi-rural city in Murica

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>19 deleted
what happened?

[Anonymous No.]

Post good art.

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>>4313686
Semi-rural city? The fuck does that even mean?

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>>4314017
America has a lot of smaller cities and because of cars being mandatory in everywhere but NYC or LA, you have suburbs of medium sized cities that are rural.

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>>4308723
>141 cm instead of 150 cm
Ina fears a nine centimeters difference?

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>>4314120
>cars being mandatory in everywhere but NYC or LA
>LA
>cars not being mandatory
Never been there, huh?

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>>4314152
Nah, I haven't. I'd rather go to Washington or Oregon if I'm going to the east coast. I thought every walked or ubered?

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>>4314339

Thats the west coast Goorah

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>>4314339
>I'd rather go to Washington or Oregon if I'm going to the east coast.
anon your geography reps

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>>4314148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbyHzwHDLHo

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Anyone else find their characters really cringy?

Why do they all have shitty meme names?
Does Gura even know what Hunter is supposed to be about?
Why did Kiara dump dex despite being a firearms specialist?

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>>4315729
None of them have played the setting before

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>>4307823
>Why go to a local burger joint when there's McDonalds
There's more than enough D&D streams out there already

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>>4309025
I wish they played DnD just to see fanart of Gura as a kobold

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>>4315729
I'm pretty sure Calli is the only one with experience with these. Don't think it's meant to be a super srs high level run either.

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>>4315729
Mori probably didn't want to risk looking like pic related on stream and has helped them to better realize their character ideas since. Or they're just going to be a bunch of retarded potato PCs and fail at everything.

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>>4315729
Dex doesn't affect draw speed? Sorry i'm not
a tabletop player.

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>>4309025
Pretty much this, there's even still a chance for misunderstandings to happen in a game like this. See picture.

Let's all hope they know what a gazebo is.

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>>4316992
Most systems, including nWoD, have a tendency to overload Dexterity. If I remember correctly it's used for shooting gun rolls as well

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>>4313941
I wanna fuck yuul

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>>4317615
Hnnnnggg tired scientist gf

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>>4315729
Dex 2 is low but Str 3 allows her to use heavier weapons like heavy pistols so it's not a bad idea. And she has a lot of points in firearms to compensate.

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>>4319139
Funny how she put points in firearms while Ame didn't.

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>>4305247
FATAL

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>>4309025
Walmart actually stopped selling most or all handgun and small caliber rifle ammo. Not sure about the guns themselves as my local stores never carried them.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you think about any chuubas willing to try it out?

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>>4319718
I bet she plans to be mad wrestler on mushrooms

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What do you think about the weekly lore/background videos that we're going to get in preparation for the campaign?

It can't help but think it's going to be something that has too much time and effort put into it. Calli and each of the players could easily hash it out in private over the course of a few days, spend about 20 minutes recording a video with each of them, and be done within a week.
I'm not seeing why this has to wait more than one month until the game gets started. There's three new players that could be very excited to play at the moment, but I can see their interest waning as time passes and they don't think about it for a month. It just doesn't make sense to me for not striking while the iron's hot.

[Anonymous No.]

>Made a track for Hunter
>Got a like, retweet, and two likes on soundcloud
:)
It was the first time I ever released something. One like was enough to make my day. I say this because the dude who retweeted was obviously from here. Thanks.

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>>4309419
If you made an suboptimal build/selection of spells in any TTRPG then you can easily just ask the GM to respec or change it around. A good GM wouldn't want their players to be forced to play a build they grown to not like and aren't having fun with. In DnD5e I've let my players completely respec their levels and got my GM to allow me to completely respec my levels. Though I am autismo enough to keep the general vibe of the character together, no martials are going to turn into mages and vise versa.

Talents are also just a variant rule anyways, if you're really anal you can just not use said variant rule. As for the massive amount of spells most of them are irrelevant to you and all classes only have certain chunks they are allowed to get their spells from. It's not braindead easy but definitely very easy for a TTRPG

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I can't fucking wait to see what Ame does with this. She's perfect for it.

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>>4313941

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>>4299491
is there any other youtuber group that has run hunter property before? wanted to get a better idea of the setting before I continue my fanart

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>>4329263
Won't books give a better idea?

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>>4329263
Go to /wodg/ on /tg/ and do your book reps.

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I wonder why hunters are not used to cooperate with werewolves. Together they could annihilate at least vampires for good.

[Anonymous No.]

Maid or Golden Sky Stories would be good I feel, but might be a bit too rules light for it to be engaging for viewers?

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>>4329887
Most hunters don't know werewolves exists, and the ones who do might not know that werewolves and vampires are different species who don't get along, and even if they do know that most of them who survived that long are usually in the "shoot first ask questions later" mindset because the ones who don't end up dying horribly

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>>4329345
>>4329435
i mean I understand the lore and system but there is always a difference between the understanding of the rulebook and watching it in action.
But il guess il lurk more over there and see what I can learn

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>>4326373
Nice dude, i too understand the warm feeling of external validation. Keep up the good work!

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>>4330030
Sad.

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>>4326507
Making suboptimal choices in a WoD game is part of the fun, you're playing a character, not a machine made for dungeon grinding

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>>4301709
>Critical Role declining in viewership

I dunno - hardly looks like declining, if the stats are anything to go by:
https://twitchtracker.com/criticalrole/statistics

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>>4335179
sure, experienced players can play characters with sub optimal stats and still have a blast but the issue is when a newbie ”mid maxes” stats without understanding how those stats work

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So how long until Gura's character gets a katana?

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>>4335814
Mori will help them.

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>>4329263
There are some videos in the onyx path channel of people playtesting second edition but I cannot say about their quality. Every wod game that isnt VtM is pretty hard to find online.

In terms of setting there isn't much to talk about. We know they'll be playing at Cell level, that's where the party are a bunch of literally-whos that decide to hunt monsters together.

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>>4301709
Crit Role fans are cancer, they just hate everything

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>>4335814
It's min maxing not mid maxing lmao. Have you never seen it written down?

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>>4301709
>>The Adventure Zone killed off almost all its fans' goodwill after the recent disastrous campaign
Explain, that sounds like good drama.

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>>4329887
>Together they could annihilate at least vampires for good.
Lore wise is there a reason they would prefer one over the other? Don't the two forces sort of keep each other in check?

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>>4335832
Calling sometime in the first session, around the first 30 minutes if she’s motivated enough.

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>>4338770
For werewolves civilization is bad, but humans themselves are not. Vampires, on the other hand, are pure manifestation of their archenemy, Wyrm. For humans both of them are monsters, but werewolves at least do not build all of their existence on parasitizing on humans. I think they could reach an agreement.

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>>4329887
No they wouldn't. Vampires control way too much. And Wolves mostly care about woods.

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>>4339843
Hard to believe a truce like that would last. The moment last vampire is dealt with humanity would turn on the wolves

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>>4330030
Then there is the fact that there is a not insignificant chunk of werewolves that want to keep humans around but cull their numbers from time-to-time.

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>>4339843
There is no way an alliance like that would last. The moment the vampires are wiped out or kept in check the humans would turn on Werewolves, and this isn't even talking about how a not insignificant chunk of them would like nothing better than to reduce humanity back to the stone age where they can be kept as little more than cattle meant to serve their lupine masters.
Also if you're talking about oWoD there's the delirium to worry about, that's it's own can of worms.

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>>4326373
I've never made music but I'd like to try making something for this, any pointers for a good free workstation and instrument plugins, Anon?

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>>4341850
>>4343681

You wouldnt "Wipe out" Vampires. You would be labeled crazy conspiracy theorists and the SAWT team would team would firebomb your homes freeze your bank accounts and lock up any survivors in insane asylums. The Vampires would then wonder how half of this happened while the Tremere try to take credit for shit the Technocracy did for them

Of course thats OWOD I dunno how it rolls out in nWOD

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>>4339843
>Wyrm
I googled wod wyrm and it led me to a whole fucking rabbithole. I thought wod is just about vampires and werevolves, but this shit is about everything, and everything has like at least 10 interwoven layers. I should've known.

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>>4349613

The oWOD lore was convulted as fuck because every single faction of the game (Vamprie Werewolves Mage Changlings and Wraiths) was originally meant to be played alone without buying all the other game books with crossovers as optional. Because of that apparently the entire world is control by vampires until its not and controlled by the agents of the Wyrm until its not and its controlled by the Technocracy etc. and then you get into 30 other smaller book releases added more lore

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>>4348947
Anon, it's not the 90s anymore.
London and Vienna have fallen.

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>>4349918
>>4349613
None of the splats are entirely canon to each other. With the exception of Samuel Haight, the ultimate badass. See pic related
Stop trying to shoehorn them all into 1 setting, it doesn't work

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>>4350019

It CAN it takes a delicate touch and knowing when reading a splatbook that its meant to be biased from the POV of those players. The real problem is finding people that can play it straight without just using it for a Dudes of Legends game

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>>4350118
The problem is that the books are mutually contradictionary. That really isn't a problem since they were not meant to form a single setting.
It's just something that you have to keep in mind in online discussions

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>>4350019
I was under the impression the splat books were all unreliable narration and the truth was a mix of all of them lorewise.

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>>4349613
Welcome.

>>4349959
Even with this, they are still strong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4350252
Yes however the second Inquisition scared the higher ups enough to not even think about using higher up government offices as tools.
Now local level they probably still have a lot of influence but when it comes to federal stuff it gets too risky.

[Anonymous No.]

Sam Haight is the proof that WoD writers knew their audience. They made these games about characters trying to handle their supernatural turmoil, a world that fears and hates them, the fact that they're surrounded with forces way beyond them, but still got room to have this hokey-ass capecomic motherfucker played up to the eleven.

I wonder if there are logs of a chronicle where the players fight him, they're probably peak cheese.

[Anonymous No.]

For when drawing fanart what era is their campaign meant to be in? Modern times? early 20th century? Fantasy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4351553
Modern

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you guys talking about oWoD lore when the game is taking place in nWoD where none of it is canon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4351618
If nWoD really doesn't have its own lore then Mori will most likely use or take bits from the old one, won't she?

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>>4351413
The first appearance of Samuel Haight is actually pretty damn good and about the misstreatment of kinfolk by the Garou.
At the end he turned into a carricature though, he funnily enough ended up literally soulforged into an ashtray in Stygia for WtO

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339843
>Wyrm
>In NWoD
Book reps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4351618
Cuz oWoD lore is actually interesting if a bit goofy at times while nWoD lore sucks?

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>>4351618
because there's a reason oWoD is getting resurrected
Now I'd love to talk about Hunter the Vigil lore and how certain conspiracies/compacts could influence the campaign but I don't think enough people that know their stuff are around for that.

I mean if they don't completely drop the ball then Gura makes for a textbook lucifuge down the line.

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>>4352305

The mechanics for nWOD are actually pretty solid but it lacks the charisma of the oWOD warts and all

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think Mori is going to drop a big lore name (like an existing Compact acting at the location she chooses), at least on the first few sessions. I feel that she'll keep it all laser-focused on the girls and might even let a few random NPCs show up to fill their Cell, though I can tell she'll drop the revelation that there are bigger fish, monsters and/or hunters, after the party comes out of their first big fight.

I 100% want the revelation to be some hammy shonen bullshit, where the season villain(s) just show up to taunt them. Hit them with lines like "Nice of you getting rid of my minion, I never liked them" and "I'll keep an eye on you, humans!" and it'll be good, trust me. The chat will eat that shit up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4338457
From my limited understanding that I've gotten from reading some massively derailed /tg/ threads, the dm handwaved a shitty ending to his already mediocre campaign

[Anonymous No.]

I like this designs, one of the few pieces of good art that understand that they NOT are in middle ages or the 1920s, not sure where people even got that idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4360237
Vampires and werewolves are often associated with fantasy which is more visually similar to older times than modern ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>random teammate is amazed that Astel is playing from JP to NA

[Anonymous No.]

>>4360237
incredibly cute yuul. i also totally want gura to be a chuuni that rushes right into danger until her first near-death encounter and has some self reflection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4301086
NWoD is literally only homebrew. It severed itself from OWoD's metaplot, leaving NWoD introducing all of their fucking splats with shit like
"THIS MIGHT BE A THING, OR IT MIGHT NOT, AND IF IT IS MAYBE THIS IS WHY IT HAPPENED, OR THIS REASON, AND HERE'S ANOTHER COUPLE OF REASONS OF WHY THIS MIGHT THIS AND THIS AND THAT, BUT REALLY I DON'T KNOW, WHY DON'T YOU TELL MEEEEE WHY IT DIDN'T OR DIDN'T, OR HELL, DON'T TELL ANYTHING! MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE A REASON, REASONS ARE FOR YOU TO DECIDE! OR NOT, WHO NEEDS DECISIONS?! THAT'S FOR YOU TO DECIDE, OR IS IT, HAHAHAHA! BUT IF YOU DO HAVE THEM, MAYBE YOU MAKE THIS KIND OF DECISION, OR MAYBE THE ORIGINS OF THIS DECISION WERE THAT DECISION, AND THIS ONE MAYBE BUT ALSO MAYBE NOT DECISION..."

[Anonymous No.]

>>4352305
>>4352703
It's honestly kind of a mixed bag. The old world meta plot was absolute cancer. The new world games like Changeling the Lost and Promethean the Created are fantastic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4344669
I'm a big fan of Reaper. It's free and easy to use. If you do plan to actually produce music, a license is only 60 bux. It has a pretty good amount of plugins right out the box. As far as virtual instruments go, you get out what you put in. There are some good free VIs out there, but most of them can't compare to paid ones. For example, I managed to get a free $100 piano VI. There were like 20 different variation of the same piano recorded from multiple different angles, distances, tuning, and even environment (studio vs stage). I'm just a beginner though so take what I say with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4338457
I actually listened to that season. Basically when you get down to it, not a single action made from the party ever mattered at any point. You could literally yoink them out of the story entirely and things would've ended the same. I'll try to summarize it without going into too much detail.

>Big bads are manifestations of chaos and order who try to perpetuate cycles. An age of chaos which leads to an age of order and vice versa for eternity.
>It's Chaos' turn and he's gonna get a demon to invade the world and cause mass slaughter so that a hero can rise up and create order at some point.
>Trying to avoid war, the party instead decides to destroy the economical order that is strangulating society. This would theoretically cause enough chaos and destruction of their society that they could avoid war and rebuild an age of order after the chaos
>They actually manage to do this.
>Immediately right after they do this, the demon invasion happens anyways. It's also worth noting that they convinced the big bad demon earlier to work with them because he's being set up to get fragged by a hero.
>Get thrown into dimension zone by Order god
>Chaos god turns over a new leaf and kills Order for them
>Yay everything is back to normal
That's the heavily condensed version. I mean the guy's a newbie DM. Things like that will happen. But yeah, it's not really worth listening to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4362373
>The old world meta plot was absolute cancer.
I hate you and everything you stand for

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't Ame said that Watato looks something like Wario? I guess she saw all those Danny Devito tweets.

[Anonymous No.]

Mori was making NPCs in a T2 stream right? She 100% made a vampire and changeling didn't she?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4362223
I really have no idea why people liked oWoD metaplot so much. It was mediocre as fuck. nWoD is a sandbox system that allows you to do everything you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4363885
nWoD is full of SJW bullshit
I refuse to elaborate

[Anonymous No.]

>all the art of Watoto makes him look attractive
He's a stinky hunchbacked GOBLIN

[Anonymous No.]

>>4363277
>Muh Antediluvians
>Muh Wyrm
>Muh Caine
>Muh Technocracy space laser

[Anonymous No.]

>>4364054
As he should be....

[Anonymous No.]

>>4363967
>nWoD is full of SJW bullshit
>He hasn't read vampire the masquerade 5th edition.
ONONONONO

[Anonymous No.]

>>4364234
Nice work on the coloring anon. Glad my suggestion was of use!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4363967
So did oWoD retard. They both have literally everything. From SJW hippies with pink hair to Nazi vampires.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4364337
Damn. I got my shit mixed up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4363845
higher tier deadbeats are incredibly resistant to leaking content so we'll just have to wait and see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4363885
oWoD lended itself very well to other media and as you know the vast majority are secondaries who played VtM:B and not the TTRPG itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4364756
All VtM sessions I played ignored the meta plot anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4364191
>Muh Antediluvians
Yes muh Antediluvians, they are the best shit ever and I can think of no less than 50 reasons why their lore is fucking amazing as individuals and another 50 why their subtle presence makes the game a million times more interesting too
>Muh Wyrm
Werewolf was weak shit cosmologically but Werewolf was always the odd one out
>Muh Caine
Yes muh Caine you fucker
I'm sorry, do you prefer your fucking non-sensical shadow owl bullshit Strix? Or nothing at all except imaaaaaginatioooon
Me I'll go to each and every oWoD VTM table and know that Caine is in the background and probably won't show his ass but he's there all the same, and all the shit that trickles down from him will be present in or influence events in some respect.
>Muh Technocracy space laser
Okay well you've got me there White Wolf never should've killed off Ravnos because of a bunch of faggots were worried about racial stereotyping, especially when they weren't committed to killing off the clan both in canon and officially.

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>>4364234
Looking at fanart like this makes me confused what exactly are those people expecting.

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>>4365003
Feudal times, they want. Dissapointment awaits.

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>>4363885
Because playing with the metaplot is the funnest shit ever.
I played a Dark Ages ruleset game of V20 for 2 damn years set in the renaissance and the times it involved the metaplot were scant but were some of the funnest, most engaging moments of the game.
I got to be blood bound to a Tremere player as a Salubri in session 1, and then had to grapple with the semantics of where I would go and how I would deal with the coterie given our choice to join either the Sabbat or the Camarilla, and then because it was set in Italy, we had to deal with the Giovanni presence as well, who were of course hunting some renegade Cappadocians hiding out, but surprise, Baali infection, prepare for demons and shit. And all the other incredibly fun interactions between clans and sects and their domains and abilities and yada yada yada that I could relate to and get excited for when I forsaw mentions of. Getting blood bound by a player is bad, for example, but the minute I knew I was going to get blood bound by a Tremere as a Salubri and the entire table realized how badly I'd fucked up, that's the kinda shit the metaplot enables, real engagement because of foreknowledge of the tropes involved.
Also, bastardized Christian lore is badass.

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>>4363845
Did she? Has she done/planned to do anymore TTplanning streams? I might just become a member so I can see them.
>>4362823
I'll give Reaper a go and look for free VIs, thanks for the recommendation, its a starting point for me.

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>>4364054
This
What part of globin like don't they understand? Hell, during the Mario Party stream Ame actually picked Wario because she envisioned him to looked something like that.

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>>4364970
Yeah it really doesn't come into play much as a role player. I loved to read about it though

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>>4363845
I really hope that Calli is only illustrating the NPCs and Ina instead does their own characters, she is a much better artist.

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>>4364975
While I don't completely agree, I respect your passion.
I do have a soft spot for a lot of the old world even when its retarded.

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>>4365303
>I do have a soft spot for a lot of the old world even when its retarded.
Tzimisce was created because an all powerful vampire puked his fucking guts out in the middle of the streets of the first city of man and then commanded some random dude to fucking eat it, and then when that random dude was fine with it he got turned into a vampire because fuck it let's see what happens
And that's okay

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>>4365391
Its the little things.

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>>4365541
why doesn't god just forgive caine already

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>>4365650
He sent literally three angels on three separate occasions who told Caine "hey man if you apologize, everything will be cool, alright? Just say sorry for killing your brother" and Caine just pouted and walked away every time until he was more cursed than Fubuki's recent furry binge

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>>4365650
Because YHVH has all the time in eternity to see the punishment of Caine seeing his "children" killing each other for petty shit, just like he did to his own brother because of jealousy. Very biblical of him.

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>>4307860
>Because it's a crappy system with super generic overdone medieval fantasy setting? DnD is McDonalds of TTRPG.
bro do you really think the only thing you can do with dnd is a shitty critical role 5e fantasy ripoff?

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>>4299491
So why aren't they just playing dungeons and dragons anyway?
I appreciate that they went with a less generic game but they're forcing everyone to be humans and a lack of race variance really hurts the roleplaying aspect so you may as well just play a game more people are familiar with at that point.

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>>4365003
people (and ame) heard the word conspiracy and think it literally means like conspiracy theories like flat earth and vaccines

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>>4364564
It was a good suggestion, thanks anon.

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>>4367206
Trying to run different seting in DnD instead of using a proper system for said seting is even more cringe
t. all those "how do you run/play (thing) in dnd" reddit posts

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>>4367422
Mori played Hunter back in the day, is a system she is confortable with.

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>>4367422
Mori already has experience with nWoD, and the idea of having to learn/relearn a game she's not 100% confident with is a recipe for annoyance during actual play, even if she wings everything up. Nothing stops a newbie GM from learning along with the players, which is in fact how many people start playing these games, but when there's an audience involved it's much better with her handling the situation more confidently. Besides, regular people these days are equally familiar with the concept of modern day humans fighting back against monsters (from stuff like Supernatural, Buffy, Evil Dead) than elves and orcs, if not more since we don't need to spend time with Fantasy World exposition. Keeping it simple is a much better choice for the GM, players and audience. And besides, humans can be just as varied for roleplaying, and are easier to relate to!

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>>4363845
You were right on one count.

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>>4368891
Watoto on the left?

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>>4369240
They're NPCs so that's probably a Sketchy Merchant.

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>>4364661

I was around back then. I played that shit. The books were left leaning with messages about environmentalism and the evils of cooperate America. Chicago by Night had vampire hippies with 10 Humanity that worked with the Weather Underground (Because mail bombs on random postal workers is virtuous) and 0 humanity ROBBER BARONS. You still never have them tell you to only play characters with politics the writers agreed with and no Gay Black Muslim Antifa vampires trying to stop 9/11 and actually causing a IRL international incident

>>4365303

OWOD is so over the top and insane thats part of the appeal. Its a heavily developed universe with tons of crap to pull from. It technically had too much shit and was retarded but it also gave you a lot shit to pull from and its often easier to modify an already developed idea to fit your game than think up something completely from scratch

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>>4350184
You can actually fold them all together into one cohesive setting if you use the Mage concensus as a basis and then extrapolate it such that anything that defies consensus is backed by another divine power that rivals humanity in scope. Vampires exist because of Yahweh's influence, Werecreatures are backed by Luna, changelings and fey can only exist by leeching divine essence from humans, ie glamour, and Demons themselves are divine powers and by extention so is the underworld and the ghosts. It takes abit of wrangling and selectively ignoring certain bits but it can work.

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>>4351618
because the old world lore is actually interesting to talk about because it has an actual story with fixed key characters and events who you can discuss with while the new world lore is really just a bunch of setting notes that can't really be discussed without going into fanfiction territory?

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