/cure/ - Holocure: Save The Fans

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A thread for the Vampire survivors inspired Holo fan game

Link to download the game:
https://kay-yu.itch.io/holocure

HoloCure Twitter:
https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame

Leader boards are currently down because too many people are playing the game. Will be fixed in a later update. You can still play and brag about your score here though so we don't clutter up other threads

Assortment of information(e.g. unlocks etc.)
https://rentry.org/vehan

Previous thread:
>>42919776

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So what's the current collab meta?
Which is better?
Bone Bros or Eldritch Horror?
Absolute Wall or Ring Of Fitness?
How are the new characters? I've found Haachama and Aki to be very powerful.
Is Kusogaki Shackles+Injection Type Asacoco+Membership a new meta?

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It was fun while it lasted bros I guess this will be the last thread.

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>>42959884
I find Dragon fire 100% mandatory against Nodoka if you're not using characters like Mumei or IRyS, my personal favourite collabs are IMDTYF and Broken Dreams

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>>42959884
I still use the flattening board whenever I can, everything else seems weak by comparison

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Help, I can't play the game without weapon limiter at max anymore.

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>>42960985
Good, devs won't need to release new weapons anymore

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how did we die for three hours?

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>>42961144
no holomem streams bc valentines

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I just realized the dev didn't put purple moon on usaken stamp. Dude really hates ID huh.

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>>42959884
People are sleeping on Horror imo. its got a huge AOE lifesteal and the damage ticks are higher than most AOE DOTs. Bone Bros does better damage where you point it and may be better for general use

Wall and Ringfit are mediocre but not terrible. You could do worse as your last collab

Aki Choco and Aqua stand out. Mel Haachama and Shuba with nice niches. Matsuri and Shiona re awkward but I dont think they are much worse than pre-patch Ame

Kusogaki build isnt terrible but its real RNG swingy compared to a conventional build and the stats can be all over the place

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Do we have an updated rank list yet?

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>>42959683
>Assortment of information(e.g. unlocks etc.)
>https://rentry.org/vehan
update this already jesus christ

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If Reine and Kaela aren't OP or at least top tier, my jimmies are gonna be slightly rustled.
They deserve to be considering how much attention they give the game with their grind and time spent on it

They're also the best ID girls

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>>42961970
For money, go solo weapon Irys and pray for an early greed stamp. In time mode, Aqua + broken dreams rush is king. For everything else, play your favourite holo.

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>>42962212
>Reine has halu+ and the enemies turns into women she'd rape

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this game is actually really hard
keep dying

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>>42962580
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
N

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>>42962580
Skill issue

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When you're farming gold, at which point should you reset if you're not getting a halu? 3 mins?

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>>42962623
london what
london is not the game

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>>42962716
with gachikoi buff first few levels

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>>42962716
I just blast through my 10 rerolls and if I dont get it in 9 I reset. Why waste time overthinking it?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkICWqmYQLA

Nun Nun!

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why doesn't this kusoge have a 10 roll option yet? Does Kay Yu even gacha?

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>>42963595
Hes working on like 3 Animes among other stuff prease anderstand..

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>>42963587
Sora is precious and still one of my favorites tgo play in game too

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Why the fuck I can't get halu on Time Mode. I was rerolling and restoring the level for like 15 minutes and halu haven't showed up a single time.

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>>42963587
IIRC she's still the only holomem who cleared some stages in Hardcore mode

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>>42964242
It doesn't exist in time mode...

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>>42960329
Bone Bros can replace dragonfire to an extent if you are using a character that gets a haste bonus, because haste does impact the rate of fire with it unlike dragonfire.

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bae +crit stacking +shackles +most -stat items is a fun as fuck build

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I hope in the future levels keep getting harder as it has been.
But I also hope that characters can level up beyond 21 too or adding anything to make the base characters a bit stronger like the new oshi thing, so future bosses don't turn into damage sponges.

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REINE
https://youtu.be/-4K0lxgvrsc
https://youtu.be/-4K0lxgvrsc
https://youtu.be/-4K0lxgvrsc

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>>42964432
>Immediately going for Broken Dreams on Aki
Good strategy, was it recommended by Chat or did she just realize from game knowledge and reading how Aki works from her skills?

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>>42962901
He's calling you a woman because you suck ass at video games.

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>>42966506
She played a lot offstream

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>>42966296
i remember an anon said kay yu is keeping the difficulty near stage 2 and 3 as it is as to not filter the holos
hardmode stages are for the sweaty tryhards, quite nice of him to think of all his audience

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>>42966785
I can tell from her maxed haste upgrade.

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Reine sounds so hyped and excited, god I love her

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Polka and Kronii stamps are obviously great for the slow and reducing defense, but they become completely useless when you get these effects from collabs like Frozen Sea or Rap Dog, am I correct or can they stack?

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>>42967192
Did she see the teaser in the Gacha?

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>>42967326
I know they stack for more damage with Aki's Muki at least.

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>>42967462
Yeah, she's excited and surprised, unless it's some elaborate prank with the silhouettes

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Played for 2 hours trying to do solo wep achievement before realizing there's the limit weapon upgrade

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Which character do you think has the worst main weapon, both in itself and in its synergy with the rest of her team?

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>>42967326
Assuming the mechanics haven't changed this patch, all defense debuffs stack, but only some speed debuffs do, those are all on a weird case by case basis so can't really tell without very tedious and careful testing or datamining

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>>42966905
Ah, I guess that's alright too if that's true. Despite me clearing Stage 2 Hard in one try I could tell it was getting pretty difficult but still had fun with the challenge. I wouldn't mind if the difficulty stays the same.
At least if people truly wants to get sweaty, they could enable the one hit death option for future stages.

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What are the best collabs for Ina? CC is very useful for her playstyle, so I was thinking of trying Broken Dreams / Frozen Wine / Along with Flat Board or I'm Die, is there a fourth one that does decent CC or knockback? Or maybe I should just go micomet and call it a day.

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>>42967896
INA HAS NO SYNERGY HER SKILLS DON'T SYNERGY WITH EACH OTHER HER WEAPON DOESN'T SYNERGY WITH ENEMIES SHE HAS NO SYNERGY WITH THE GAME I HAVE NO SYNERGY WITH INA BUFF INA INA INA NO SYNERGY INAAAAAAA

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>>42968039
Also, does the slow sticker stack with Broken Dreams?

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>>42967896
I really don't like Matsuri's.
Ayame's isn't super bad, though it has a long cooldown so benefits from the stamp. However it synergizes poorly with her own radius at max level, having a hitrange larger than her bonus area and causing spirit fires that also go outside it.

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>>42968090
It's true, they should buff Ina.

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>>42968039
Flattening board is better than I'm Die, because she gets the flat bonus with it. +50% size and +30% damage for free on an already strong weapon.

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Should make a game called HoloPure: Rape the Fan. Palette swap pc and enemies. Play as a mascot running away from idols chasing you.

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>>42968174
I feel like Flattening board is a must have on any Flat character, I prefer I'm Die on characters with Melee though since most of the time you're in range to stick them

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Is membership cheating?

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We need a level 4 trumpet stamp that actually does damage.

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>>42967896
I'd say Mio, the synergy of her kit with Hatotaurus is just questionable. Hatotaurus deals a bunch of knockback and gives her 30% damage reduction, but you want her to be as close as possible to the enemies so they get the Cheerful Laugh debuff, less enemies near her means she heal less from Mama, and damage reduction doesn't even matter if enemies are getting knockbacked anyway unless you're using it to tank projectiles or to manfight bosses. Omen filling up special gauge whenever it procs and kills also mean you're supposed to spam Hatotaurus somehow.
Heard she got buffed this update though so no idea whether this still hold true, haven't tried her post update yet.

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>>42959683
Happy to see this game has a thread. I've barely watched any vtubers but it's shocking to me how better this is compared to VS. This game is pretty fun with a controller in my opinion.

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>>42968599
It feels like it sometimes, it is ultra powerful.

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>>42968170
Your obviously 3 Takos in a trenchcoat but its a nice attedmpt

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>>42968700
Mio got done dirty by the dev..

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>>42968599
Its basically the opposite of Halu in that it reduces coin gain but makes the game easier.
Game becomes pretty boring with it, so regardless of whether its cheating I don't like it.

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>>42963587
>revives
>3 anvils appear
what is this rng bullshit

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>>42968766
>>42968090
Ayame hands typed these posts.

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What are the best main weapons besides Mumei and Irys'?

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>>42968700
These are the buffs she got
>Added 1 additional Tarot Card to all levels
>Slightly increased power of Hatotaurus
Between the extra tarot card and a few items and stamps it becomes pretty easy to just spam Hatotaurus.
But the rest of her kit is still the same contradictory mess.

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>>42968599
Hardly, it's neither the best damage nor defensive option. Only item I would even consider calling cheating would be shackle, but honestly if it's in the game and not bugged, it's fair game

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If I'm running Halu, would the kusogaki bangle give better results than the gorilla hands? It would be like all enemies had 30% less health and less speed and damage, right?

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>>42968730
Threads are created when the game gets updated and they stay alive for a bit over a week before it loses steam.
Ever since the first version of the game it was way better than VS in my opinion. I think we are in V3 of the game and they keep adding stuff to make it interesting and fun. It's fun to talk about the game and seeing chuubas play it too.

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>>42961456
So much so that it's the next batch of characters and he was in Kaela's stream.

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>>42968897
Yes. Kusogaki removes Halu's enemy buff

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>>42968902
I stopped playing VS completely when it came out. It built on that formula wonderfully and it's got Ina in it so I like it more.

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>>42968897
>>42968931
Kusogaki Band's description got changed to specify that it only reduces debuffs placed on the players themselves, not buffs placed on other enemies.

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>>42968359
Flattening Board and BoneBros are both pretty good and I think I like BB better on the office

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>>42968797
>>42968866
Mio is far from the worst offender in this game, and the fact that PikiPiiman lets her spam Hatotorous on cooldown makes her incredibly easy to play, doubly so if you are doing solo-weapon.

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>>42968966
Did they patch it?

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>>42968966
Damn brat Kay yu…

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There should be enough music tracks for a Jukebox system in the shop by now, or gives an option for rotating music for every stage

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>>42968966
>>42969020
Unless there's a change I'm not aware of, Kusogaki states that it's ITEM NEGATIVES that are negated, so that should be Halu too

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>>42968966
This was also always my experience, never understood why people said it removed enemy health debuff. Here is a picture just to show the updated tool tip of the item

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>>42969161
Lame.

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>>42968897
why would you want the game to be easier

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I just got my hands on the new update recently.

I have been unlocking all of the new stuff and having fun with it but I am curious: what did this new update change from the previous ones? like buffs or nerfs to any specific character or item. I noticed that Irys got stronger now by trying to get the new Soda item.

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>>42969337
You can check the changelog in your launcher directory

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>>42969337
Read the changelog file in the holocure folder, it contains the detailed patch notes of changes.

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>Luna is likely only playable close to or in 2024
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>3 anvis in and no Kaela
Should I even still bother with hers

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>>42969337
Ame also got the ability to fire in all directions like Irys.
Mio got buffs as seen here: >>42968866

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>>42969441
I know that feel friendo

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>>42969479
If you get Kaela after the anvil you can't use them twice anyway so just use them

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>>42969441
didn't this update take a while because kay yu was working on river city girls 2? updates might be faster now

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>>42969337
Irys got a stealth nerf in the update to 0.5
>Nephilim Blast awakened attack time reduced from 70 (1.17 s) to 65 (1.08 s).
>Awakened lower attack time limit increased from 1 (0.02 s) to 35 (0.58 s).
Her beam will be shorter range and have a mandatory dead time between firing regardless of haste now. However, the ability to fire her beam at any angle and apply stamps to it is probably still an overall buff to irys compared to the 0.4 version.

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Is new plushie better than the old one?

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>>42969655
Yes, though it also has anti-synergy with a lot of items now.

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>>42969441
I WANNA PLAY TOO NANORAAAAAAAAA

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>>42969673
Can you die from the delayed damage or do you survive with 1 HP?

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>>42969728
You die of course, you're getting hit for the full damage, just slowly. Gives you time to heal.

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>>42969673
Which ones? Seems like it has synergy with more items than anti-synergy.

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>>42969161
Damn, guess it's not worth using on a build with just energy drink and haly for debuffs then.

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>>42969728
it gives you health debt if you should be dead so you eat a ton of damage you end up taking like 50 damage per tic and then die at 0

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>>42969762
Just Bandage and Breastplate are tested and confirmed to have anti-synergy with it.

Depending on how DoT works it might have great synergy with Piki Piki Piman Time and HORRIBLE Synergy with Sake, but that's untested,
Overtime DoT might also screw you if you revive with Subaru's Skill/Chicken Feather but also untested.

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>>42969602
He's stated that he's on break for the rest of February, then he's quitting a lot of projects to work on personal stuff/HoloCure more.

I'd expect updates to be a bit more frequent after 0.6 comes out.

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>>42969906
>Just Bandage and Breastplate are tested and confirmed to have anti-synergy with it.
Really? Bandage seemed to still heal the original damage amount when I was using it. Chestplate seemed to do full damage back too.

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>>42970079
Are you 100% sure
Bandage seems to heal shit all

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>>42970117
Not him, but I'm using the combo in halu5 right now and seems pretty good, but I'm using Mio so maybe the mama skill have something to do with it

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>>42970117
I’ll need to try it again I guess, bandage seems mediocre overall anyway. Horns synergizes with offensive items and those are important to actually reduce damage taken by killing enemies.

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>>42969441
Don't you mean naaaaaaaaaaaaa~

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After playing with Mio for a bit I have to say she's really great now. The extra card was already nice, but it's stamps that really elevated her, particularly Usaken stamp makes her proc a lot more omens to the point that you don't even need piki piki or idol costume to spam your special

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>>42970282(me)
>>42970117
>>42970415
It doesn't feel so bad really, I was healing around 12 to 19depending of how many enemies I had close to me, so as long as you have some breathing room you should be able to outheal the tics of the plushie
The stamps were the flor, the boros one and the more projectiles one, so no healing from the weapon either

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I don't understant the ''clear all stages'' requirement for gachikoi. Do hard stages count? Do I have to clear them all with the character?

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>>42970968
Yes, all stages, hard included

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>>42970968
Yes.
Yes.

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>>42970968
Yep, beat all stages in stage mode. There's a green check mark on the stage selection screen if you have cleared it already.

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>>42970987
>>42970993
time to grind

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>>42971020
It will be a shame to lose the gachikoi rank every time a new update is released due to the 2 new stages.

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>Early super super chatto time
Man the ATK buff is no joke, even with my slow main weapon I had around 300 ATK by the time I got to yagoo, and was able to sit and tank enemies all the way to the end.

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>this game is really hard
>this game is really easy
Which one is it?

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>>42971745
I think its a shop upgrade thing.

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>>42971745
depends on how smart (You) are

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>>42971602
I just looked it up, that must be insane with the greed stamp abusers. Worth pivoting your whole build plan just for that if you get it early.

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>>42971745
Depends on the character, shop upgrade and stage.

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How the fuck do you get the Couch Potato achievement, RNG?

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>>42971745
Depends on how much time you invested before the update
If you bought all upgrades right away after installing the patch, the new stages are kinda too easy
And gachikoi makes everything too easy

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>>42971819
Easily. You can still move the mouse to aim.

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>>42970968
Yeah, all five stages. Including the two Hard stages.

Once you completed a stage with that character, a green checkmark will show up. This helps you keep track of which stages you already done.

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I'm glad stage 1 is over and I have no reason to visit it, even for Hard mode.
Its a completely open wide field with plenty of room to lose EXP drops forever and plenty of terrain objects to get stuck in and suddenly die, I feel like Stage 2/3 are easier for that reason.

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>>42971819
>play fauna
>basic attack has homing
>grab limiter
>press special if you get close to dying
>profit

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>>42971819
Shop upgrades + fandom bonuses, rest is up to your build but remember that you can't move so no collabs or stamps. Healtank is very ez.

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>>42971819
I like Watson for it.
Bubba hits enemies and grabs xp, you can aim her gun manually now and her for special melts bosses.

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Not a Homobeggar, I'm just curious if Kay Yu has said if he ever plans on adding Homos or not. I don't want them to infect the game.

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>>42972276
I wouldn't mind them but I imagine they're bottom priority regardless so it's unlikely he'll ever get to them even if he wanted to.

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>>42972329
>Implement EN early so they don't have to wait after all JP holos
>Implement ID early so they don't have to wait after all JP holos
>Last people to be introduced are JP HoloX
Pain

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>>42972392
Don't worry anon. There'll be new JP gens before he gets to HoloX.

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>>42972276
At one point he tweeted out Excel development spreadsheets, and there were two pages with HoloStars JP and HoloStars EN. They'll probably get in after JP Gen 6 is done, though.

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Not gonna lie, Soras ultra defensive builds makes for good stream content. She has been so close dying multiple times with only a sliver of purple health left from the plushie but always manage to just heal it up in time

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Ayy she did it! Is she the first to clear Hard 2, or did Kaela get there first?

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SORA DID IT

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>>42972769
>>42972796
Nice

[Anonymous No.]

So this is... the power of daisenpai...

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Sora was the last person I would expect to be playing Holocure so much. Dev must be pretty happy

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>>42972867
She is also the one who actually did Endless Mode a lot (outside of Botan, who kinda dropped the game after initial release until Gen 5 is out) and even cleared Hardcore Mode on Stage 1 (and maybe Stage 2?)
It helps that she REALLY enjoys the playstyle of HoloCure's Sora

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>>42972769
Kaela cleared it yesterday, so she's second. Still impressive

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>>42972769
Kaela did it last night with irys (using the toot stamp).

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>>42973192
>Irys
SHE DIDN'T BEAT THE STAGE

[Anonymous No.]

>Irys
>Mumei
DOESN'T COUNT

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>Halu
DOESN'T COUNT
>no Halu
DOESN'T COUNT

[Anonymous No.]

Sora's going to clear S2 back to back with 5 charas next Holocure stream. If she dies she'll have to start over

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>>42973366
The real hope Soda…

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>>42973366
>5 charas
Gen 0, to be exact

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Reine says size is good.

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>>42973568
Weine likes them big

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>>42973512
she picked up a comment suggesting 5 randoms so we'll see

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>>42973568
She is the 2nd tallest holo.
Turkeys are big birds.

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>>42969625
> I updated before playing around with original 0.5 irys and the greed stamp
I don’t even need money, I just wanted to try it at its fullest.

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>>42959683
is it me or is aqua shit?

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>>42975009
She's good if you build her correctly.

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>>42975009
She might be the best new character added anon

[Anonymous No.]

is the trick to couch potato limiting yourself to the main weapon since you can't collab and hoping to get attack boosts?

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>>42975064
>>42975091
what is correctly? I tried to go for projectile weapons and stacking crit but failed miserably in time mode, too slow for kiting, too low damage and 0 healing

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>>42975009
>https://twitter.com/CaliYaki/status/1624907466030092290
Nah you are, a lot of people got sub5 or sub6 with her.

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>>42965889
Huh? How do people get 4minutes time then?

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>>42975160
I thought the fastest times currently belong to Aqua

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>>42975225
Why would adding more enemies+enemy health improve time to kill all enemies?

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>>42975286
>Why would ading more enemies improve time to kill all enemies
Anon

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>>42975168
Aqua is the only character that I've seen get a sub 4:45 in time attack.

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>>42975225
Enemy spawns speed up as you kill them, seemingly around every 1000 killed. The best method seems to be standing at the very edge of the arena so that you can kill enemies on spawn, and their xp drops will all be placed almost directly on top of you. Aqua is the current queen because her Klutz skill, along with Broken Dreams, wipes enemies instantly and hits screen wide. Getting haste and damage boosts obviously helps

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>>42975168
is bubble even that good on her? or is it used for the slow

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>>42975009
That was my first impression as well. But after I tried others recommendation of using broken dreams and devil hat with her, she just cuts through mobs like butter before they can even get inside her circle.

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>>42975583
interesting, so I should basically ignore the crit multi and go for flat damage instead
been building her wrong

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>>42975533
He Klutz skill causes multi-projectile weapons to gain an extra projectile. Due to Broken Dreams being a combo-item (bubble is single, rain is multi) it appears to be causing the entire wave of rain to fire off twice, making for some crazy damage

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>decide to try out Subaru
>become a baseball and fire-spewing minigun
>you're under arrest, and YOU'RE under arrest, YOU ARE ALL UNDER ARREST
>dying? just say no. it's that easy
This is amazing. I still lost to Nodoka's beam attack though.

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>>42975637
do you ignore leveling her skills and just go for items+collab?

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>>42975637
So it's like having Friend's second attack as a constant buff.

[Anonymous No.]

So has Kay Yu patched Irys yet?
Otherwise I'm going to assume he needs her to be overpowered to even clear level 1.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you build the strongest Ina
Asking for a friend.

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>>42975920
You mean she needs her to be overpowered. She got buffed to outer space after Irys herself complained she was "weak" in the first version.

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>>42976006
Which was bullshit to start with.
Irys should get the hammer the same as Ina and Sora got. Take both kneecaps.

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>>42976006
She wasn't even weak, chat just gaslit her into believing so cause Bae was better and/or they didn't know how to use her properly

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>>42975168
bro how do you get 30 levels in 4 minutes lmao

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>>42975920
There are IRyS post ALL over reddit yet the Dev refuses to nerf her. it's obvious at this point

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>>42975955
First, you start by finding a download of the launch release. Then,

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>>42975920
>So has Kay Yu patched Irys yet?
I mean, does he need to? It's a single player game, who the hell cares? She prints money, but she's hardly the most fun character, and I'm willing to be that, just like in previous patches, she won't be the best for endless runs.

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I guess as far as the Dev's concerned you don't get the nerf hammer unless you're able to survive yagoo.

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>>42976418
Part of the reason she isn't that fun is that she's idiotically overpowered with her obscene damage and constant and powerful heals.

[Anonymous No.]

every other character
>X effect withing Y pixels
Mumei
>on screen

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>>42976422
But that only matters in Endless Mode, and Leaderboards are still not there

[Anonymous No.]

what's the best setup for consistently grinding money?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42976422
Rip Shuba...

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>>42976653
Maybe when leaderboards get added he'll have a direct metric of which characters are really stupid.

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>>42976691
Irys, greed stamp, superchat,.

But honestly, don't grind money THAT hard. There's a shit ton of stuff to unlock and characters to play and you'll get most of the money you could possibly want simply by trying them all out.

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>>42976691
Irys, disable weapons, greed stamp, supachat, halu

[Anonymous No.]

>>42975920
>>42976006
>>42976281
>>42976418
>>42976473
>ALL over reddit the Dev refuses to nerf her. it's obvious at this point
She was already nerfed again in an update to 0.5. Try reading the thread or better yet fuck off to reddit in your case >>42976281
>>42969625
>Nephilim Blast awakened attack time reduced from 70 (1.17 s) to 65 (1.08 s).
>Awakened lower attack time limit increased from 1 (0.02 s) to 35 (0.58 s).
The fact of the matter is she is a "main weapon" Holo and main weapons got a buff this version due to the stamp system, so holos like Irys and Mumei feel it more than others. She also feels a big boost from being able to aim her weapon like Amelia can. However, in a recent update her weapon got a hefty minimum delay meaning you'll always see dead area between beams no matter how high you get her haste.

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>>42976706
Shuba will be nerfed and needs to be nerfed, her optimism respawns make her not very fun to play in my opinion because it is so mindlessly guaranteed. Now that her Police arrests work better it won't be a problem to nerf her optimism a bit, I think. Giving the respawn a cooldown would help with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42976895
But she was overpowered last time with no stamps too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42977045
There are and were stronger holos. Irys is just easy to play because you just need to max her weapon and skills to work well, meaning you cut down on RNG and don't need levels for collabs as much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42976636
It makes sense though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42976970
Yeah, it's way too easy to turn Subaru into an AFK character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42961600
Horror is essentially just a slower rate of fire comet
unless you have stupid haste bonus there's ever only going to be one on-screen at a time, which is what makes it so much of a skip when you could put its component parts into comparatively stronger collabs if you were to have an equivalent haste boost
that said, i'm only going off my playstyle so eh

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of bad, I don't care much for Matsuri. Her skills are alright but man does her weapon stink. That "knocking the boss away from you into the back of the horde" problem other anons mentioned can really be felt.
This was only s1h so I tried to mix it up a little by going for Flattening board early since it is pretty strong and she gets the Flat bonus. Big mistake really, I got the cutting board first but took ages for the bomb to show up (first collab was like 12:00) so between that and her main weapon it struggled to keep up the kills. Look at that pathetic count, that is less than 75% of the normal kills. Since I have the older version I wanted to test the shackles and I do think they previously worked against Halu so I don't think it was just their description that changed.
For Stage 2 Hard I'm certainly shifting to something like Broken Dreams first if the RNG favors me. Broken Dreams, Flattening Board and Dragonfire for Nodoka should do it I think. Perhaps throwing in Snow Flower Sake or Micomet as well if the levels actually allow it.
s2 enemies mostly just come from 2 directions so perhaps that will make it a bit easier, though I won't be able to line up a swarm of enemies to hit with GOD as well since it is only vertical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42975168
there's definitely some minmaxed armory unlocks fuckery going on in that tweet

[Anonymous No.]

>>42977668
Just reset until you get the Face Mask first and then the stuff for Broken Dreams, namely the tears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42976895
The problem with the characters balance doesn't end the weapon. Her base kit have 2 built in defensive items (horns + headphones) which also synergies with the damage output of the character. Add to that with the rework of the doll making the build practically immortal.
Half demon should be nerfed to top out at 60 %, half angel should have its cd increased to 0.5 seconds and Hope should have its max heal top out at 25 % or even 20 % since it's on all hits and not only sub 15 % as with horns.
That would bring her into the realm of still good, but not insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42977762
literally doesn't explain how you can have 10 levels less from the same amount of enemies killed
something fucky is going on

[Anonymous No.]

Friend and her friend

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>>42978668
You forgot about her other friend who's the most hag out of all hags

[Anonymous No.]

>>42978490
This was my time when I figured out the trick yesterday. As that anon said, you have to restart over until you get face mask + tear, immediately go to the top of the stage and hug the upper edge. Don't upgrade anything else until you have broken dreams, then go for limiter, membership and other crit items. On this try, I didn't even have any enchants and only that one anvil appear you see by the end. It was still not worth moving to that anvil as you need to hug the upper edge to instant kill mobs as they spawn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42978724
>most hag
But Botan isn’t in the game yet…

[Anonymous No.]

Is Choco good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42979177
Yes and, even better, she is fun to play.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm having problems with the couch potato and glasses are versatile achievements...help pls

[Anonymous No.]

>>42978950
I assumed Koro-san is still older by like 3-4 years or so
>>42979177
Yes, one of the easiest new characters to pick up right away

[Anonymous No.]

>every character has a speed multiplier greater than 1
I wonder if there will ever be a character with just 1 or less than 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42977868
>headphones
Not exactly. While the proc knocks enemies away and heals, it does not prevent the hit. This is the primary reason she never gets as far as others in endless, Yagoos till smacks her through Hope, and if they hit harder than her heal it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any way to reduce sprite colors or particle effects? The one thing that VS has one this game is readability as the screen very quickly becomes a mess of rainbow effects and colors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42979317
Marine

[Anonymous No.]

>>42979303
Don't worry, I did her first

[Anonymous No.]

>>42979423
That was my thought too. Her dancing and athleticism was memetic as being not so good. Luna might fit too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42979414
There is an option to modify damage opaqueness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42979284
>Potato
Almost any character could do it with shop buffs and good items that buff survivability
Someone like Subaru / Haachama / Sana / IRyS / Sora are braindead mode for this.
>Glasses
Just play Roboco in Endless Mode with glasses item

[Anonymous No.]

>>42976755
>>42976771
thanks lads

[Anonymous No.]

>>42979616
Don’t forget to avoid damage buffs if you can do you get more hits per kill.

[Anonymous No.]

do the extra enemies from halu drop xp like normal essentially providing more xp?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42979598
thanks a lot chuuu

[Anonymous No.]

Im so dogshit at time attack I can never seem to get below sub 8 on anyone including Moomers and Aqua. What are some tips to get good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42980425
Yes, it will get you more levels than glasses provided you can kill the extra enemies quickly.
You also will get more anvils and more stamps from the extra kills, and more opportunity for healing from things like horns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42980525
See
>>42978942

[Anonymous No.]

What am I missing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42980966
ah, it's the pill. I dug into the archive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42976970
I wouldn't mind nerfing her immortality and making her main weapon a bit better. Maybe it's just me but her main weapon feels kinda crap to balance out how invincible she is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42981025
take your meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>42980966
how do you obtain the one marked??

[Anonymous No.]

>>42982273
cutting board + ball

[Anonymous No.]

>>42967896
Subaru's fast ball is probably the worst.

[Anonymous No.]

Give me the best Choco and Mel build

[Anonymous No.]

I can't tell, does +1 Projectile stamp increase the amount of Punches Korone makes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42982589
I used it on irys and couldnt tell if she actually shot more

[Anonymous No.]

>>42981371
You still have collabs do it doesn’t mitigate much unless doing a 1 weapon run, just makes her feel less fun to play.
I do agree though, it doesn’t feel great. However, it was buffed in the same patch that buffed her police skill and I haven’t tried it since then.
>Base damage increased from 120% (10 – 14) to 140% (12 – 16).
>Base hit limit increased from 2 to 3.
>LV 6 hit limit increased from 5 to 8.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42982589
It does, but it's kind of irrelevant. Korone's punches, along with the haste from yubi's is already at, or near enough, the attack delay limit. This means adding more punches, or more haste, will do effectively nothing to her attack pattern.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42982455
Subaru’s actually did have synergy with her skills.
>You wanted to be close for maximum damage
>Sunny Optimism gave faster attacks and survivability if hit while close (too much survivability)
>her duck voice hits areas of enemies around her, doing more damage and stunning up close
>Police deletes enemies that get through to you, now more often and in an area
The weapon just felt bad since it was a small damage line with very limited piercing and no spread. Might be better now with the patch improving it.

[Anonymous No.]

I just installed the game, what's a good way to get money fast?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42983090
Unlock irys and use green stamp + superchatto time item

[Anonymous No.]

>>42983126
Thanks, i just have unlock irys first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42982898
>Korone's punches, along with the haste from yubi's is already at, or near enough, the attack delay limit.
That would make it far more powerful, as the extra projectiles are fired at the same time, not separately. Haste wouldn’t help but throwing 4 punches every “tic” of the attack instead of 2 would be a giant damage increase.
However, that stamp only works on multiple projectile attacks. Attacks considered to have one projectile or are considered to be Melee attacks don’t get any bonus. Korone sends out a bunch of punches but they are sequential and probably melee flagged despite the range they have so that would prevent it from working.
I’m not certain about the attack though, I haven’t tried it myself. The weapon delay reducing stamp might help(though her delay is already so low it might not help) and so would the explosion stamp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42962212
>Kaela
it will be the weakest holo ever released just to taunt her to do a one weapon halu5 challenge

[Anonymous No.]

>>42969625
>Her beam will be shorter range and have a mandatory dead time between firing regardless of haste now
That's fucking bullshit, her being able to create a full beam was fucking cool

[Anonymous No.]

>>42983250
>as the extra projectiles are fired at the same time
I was over simplifying, but you are correct. Adding projectiles would be a net damage increase, but because of how absurdly fast she fires, each punch does a relatively small amount of damage, so adding 2 additional ones doesn't make much of a notable difference, at least from what I've seen so far
>probably melee flagged
The are considered multi-projectile
>The weapon delay reducing stamp might help
It is barely noticeable if it even helps, as the attack delay of Orayo! is already .05 seconds

[Anonymous No.]

>>42983250
They have the multishot tag.

[Anonymous No.]

What was the TANKchama build that anons were using in the past threads?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42983090
cheat engine

[Anonymous No.]

>>42983807
It depend on how many punches she is considered to fire at once per firing. If it is 5, it would still be a 40% damage boost and way more likely to trigger other effect stamps.
Broken dreams is already 6 projectiles and yet aqua’s skill still gives it a big boost, though since punches don’t get absorbed and are just a damage area overlay it might matter less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42983897
that's what those tags mean? well that makes it easier to choose weapons for baqua

[Anonymous No.]

>>42983940
Haato mode.
Max out Red Heart. Get spider cooking, then tears to go for broken dreams.
That is pretty much it, along with some haste and things like it. Adding in the stamp for extra projectiles helps a bunch because then red heart forms a solid wall. Even with the new knockback resistance mechanic they hit fast enough that most enemies can’t get through, and they also reduce enemy defense by 30%.
Even on stage 2 hard with Halu I only needed to dodge projectiles and things like that, as the blender would destroy the normal enemies as they steadily walked into it.
You gotta spend some time as Haachama first before your weapons are fully online, but then it is Haato all the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42983897
Excellent. I haven’t done much with the previous girls since the update as I’ve been trying to gachikoi the new ones first.

[Anonymous No.]

I think I might be retarded. I don't know what makes Subaru so broken

[Anonymous No.]

Lesson learned before anyone tries, the poison dot from Haachama doesnt work with the greed stamp. I thought I was going to roll in coins after I saw all the small constant ticks, but it only applies to the actual weapon hit

[Anonymous No.]

>>42984706
That isn’t surprising but good to have confirmed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42984666
Her skill makes her practically immortal

[Anonymous No.]

>>42984802
so you build her defensively? Or offensively?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42984854
You just need plushy and bandaid, headphones for extra safety. Can get breastplate if you want

[Anonymous No.]

>>42984666
With plushee and some healing like the horns and/or bandaid, she will get hits and health fast enough that the Optimism with continuously revive her no matter what. You can just sit in an enemy horde and not die… though her “buff” to police might actually nerf this, as it will keep deleting the enemies around you before they can hit while your health is still ticking down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42984854
defense, get plushy and bandage. Her optimism skill will revive, bandage and plushy will let her gain points so she can revive again.

[Anonymous No.]

how the fuck do I build for 100% crit?
the most I got is 78% and that's with all crit upgrades from the armory

[Anonymous No.]

>>42984915
>>42984959
>>42984968
sounds interesting. What was her police skill before?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42962001
Do it yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42984915
I think Headphones is a bad idea as it will reduce the hits you’re taking while you are “undead” due to the plush. The chest plate, pillow and stuff like that is likely better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42984998
Lamy's Sake bottle gives like +15 crit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42984998
if you had sake (+20% crit), eat some food with it (+5% crit) you would've done it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42985013
Only deleted 1 target that touched her and only got a rank every 15 seconds. Now it gets 2 charges every 10 seconds and affects enemies in an area.
>Cooldown reduced from 15 to 10 seconds
>Handcuffs gained at a time increased from 1 to 2
>Maximum handcuffs reduced from 6/8/10 to 4/6/8
>Now applies to all enemies in a 65px radius when triggered

[Anonymous No.]

main weapon only is actually the most fun way to play

[Anonymous No.]

>>42985152
oh. So I guess you don't level that anymore? gotta disable granks if you have those maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>42984998
Gachikoi rank will give another +5%.
If you just want 100 for the achievement the. A 1 weapon build means you’ll get lots more crit stat mods from the shop.
But can also just get Sake like the other anon said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42984915
Anyone else tried Full Meal with her? I thought it was pretty nice, doubled heals are really noticeable on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42985226
It depends on the character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42985305
The deletions might trigger horns and give more use for bandaid, so it could actually be better.

[Anonymous No.]

i've got the couch potato achievement with Mumei, it was pretty easy because of friend collecting the xp for me

[Anonymous No.]

I am retarded. I didn't know you can play with mouse instead keyboard to aim. The game is so fucking easy now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42985732
it's a new feature

[Anonymous No.]

How do I build Suisei? I'm running out of my favorite holos to get to gachi, and will have to finally start spamming her until I git gud

[Anonymous No.]

>>42985618
I searched on youtube for this achievement and the dude started the stage with friend without any level up.
How is that possible ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42985846
BL Fujoshi for heals and max critrate, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42985981
Oshi/Gachikoi rank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42984998
Just like, level up a lot and pick the crit option a lot, there's reason one weapon only is the best approach

[Anonymous No.]

>>42986013
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42985846
Suisei thrives on crits, the more crits you land, the more Blockmaster and Stellar Stellar proc. To that end, you want collabs that hit fast, and items that benefit crit. Hope Soda is great to boost your crit damage, and collabs like Elite Cooking, Broken Dreams, Frozen Sea, Dragon Breath, or Bone Bros will provide a lot of procs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42985846
max her weapon fast since lv 7 has permacrit which is needed for her passives
after that its more or less same dps build as others to win, you don't even have to go crit build

[Anonymous No.]

Not sure if anyone else has seen, but it feels like Plushie may have negative interactions with defensive items. Best guess is it may be using pre-mitigation damage to calculate the dot, but I feel way squishier running it with Membership/Breastplate than I do just dropping it

[Anonymous No.]

>>42985846
Tetris blocks from her skill can crit too

[Anonymous No.]

>>42986011
Micomet is better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42969161
It was being interpreted as removing the RED text from items. So halu having red text on making enemies stronger was being interpreted as the thing being removed.

[Anonymous No.]

>Try out the game since it's free and looks fun
>Turns out it got a big update recently
Neat. This is my first attempt at Endless mode. I'm using Mori since my oshi will never be playable

[Anonymous No.]

>>42986835
>since my oshi will never be playable
Don't despair, she will come

[Anonymous No.]

>>42985080
>>42985041
Okay, I got it now
For any anons still wondering
>10% base for Bae
>10% from Armory upgrades 20%
>30% from RatNG 50%
>25% from GWS Pill 75%
>20% from max Sake buff + 5% from healing with Sake 100%

[Anonymous No.]

is it me or does the reroll function sucks absolute dogdick? I swear to fuck I get the same options every single goddamn time

[Anonymous No.]

>>42986986
It really does.
Also kinda related: Do any of you exclude weapons as well as items when you want to get specific collabs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42986938
She won't. She's currently dying again.
I would like to see Reine and Lui become playable in the future, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42987044
I tend to exclude the bounce ball almost every time because I don't really like any of its collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>42987057
>Reine
She's coming in the next update, so there's that

[Anonymous No.]

So I know we're entering the realms of being overpowered already, but I have a feeling that starting the run with your main weapon upgraded is coming in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42986986
>>42987044
The RNG is stacked to favor offering things you already have to level up. So if you grab a bunch of weapons and items at start you’ll mostly just see those every level up until you max them out.
This can be annoying but is way better than the alternative where you can’t level the stuff you have because of how much crap is in the pool.
Eliminations can help but if you have weapons, items and skills already you can expect them to still show up when you reroll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42987287
Rerolls should be on a different "pool" though. It's frustrating rerolling and getting the same fucking shit. Have it that rerolls temporarily changes what pops up so you get something new. 9x out of 10 people aren't rerolling because they want what they already have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42987175
I could see it, but you actually get more levels from your skills being maxed than you would from just your weapon.
Gachikoi is cool but any new stages that get released will kick you back down to oshi status until you beat those too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42986527
But micomet doesn't heal you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42987344
Finish what you have first. Don’t grab more than 2 weapons until you finish maxing and collabing them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42987057
>Pochi dying again
..no...pochi sensei...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42987376
Any axe related weapon can proc suicopath.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42987376
Unless something has changed does with Suisei, it is still considered an Axe weapon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42987376
I think it still counts as "axe" because Psycho Axe is still a part of that collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>42987450
>>42987476

You're right yeah guess I must have read wrong. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42986527
isn't lava bucket better used for elite cooking tho?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42985846
Rush Flattening Board and Hope Soda. Her main weapon is fun to use, but collabs kill everything before they touch her.

[Anonymous No.]

How do i build Mel? She feels lackluster

[Anonymous No.]

>>42987584
Haachama cooking's better used for broken dreams.

[Anonymous No.]

>can set keyboard keys through menu
>but they still don't work in either menus or the game itself
I just don't get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>42987719
Depends on the person. Elite Cooking is still preferred for characters you want to spam procs on. Bae's down-under for instance, and I'd argue Suisei's blockmaster

[Anonymous No.]

Mori's special is pretty fun to use. All of the red numbers popping up is exhilarating.

[Anonymous No.]

matsuri feels a little weak compared to the other new characters. Also shion portal feels like a waste of a skill

[Anonymous No.]

>>42987688
I didn’t do it myself but I think she might actually benefit from Uber sheep for the extra food you’re getting without needing to eat your own Mel Mel cooking, though you still can. All the food will give her tons of life drain to trigger her bat attacks.
You’ll still want horns as well for even more life drain. Plushee could be useful too since she will have lots of healing, but you’ll want damage boosts to actually make the bats strong enough to threaten enemies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42987688
Her passives and base weapon work with each other by themselves
Just stack any big dick collab (Flattening / Frozen Sake / Broken Dreams / MiComet) and big stat stick items (no need for healing ones though). For stamps it's fine to go with range / debuff ones / haste / knockback

[Anonymous No.]

what does Haachama's special actually do? how am i suppose to use it effectively?

https://youtu.be/eLokk3Oy1JA

[Anonymous No.]

>>42988418
I agree.
Matsuri has some okay skills but her weapon awakened is counter productive unless you spin to win, which is a chore. Her special is awkward too.
And yes, Shion’s portals will hurt you more than the teleport will help. She needs some kind of invulnerability while teleporting, with a cooldown, for them to even function well. Gaki just doesn’t cut it because the biggest issue with the portals is when you are teleported when you don’t want to by it spawning under you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42988632
Her special switches between Haato and Haachama forms, which impacts her weapon and 2 of her skills. It has a really short cooldown and does some knock back and damage when used.
Her coexist skill is functionally her real special, with a charge time that when full lets you get all the bonuses of Haato and Haachama forms for a little while when you next use your special.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42988418
>Matsuri
I'm sure there's some defensive/healstacking build to abuse GOD out there, the damage on that is comparable to some supers. Her super move feels pretty underwhelming even if you hit the timing though.
>Shion
As much as I want to like the kusogaki I've probably struggled more with her than anyone else on Halu5 Hard Stage2 runs so far. Anyone have a playstyle/build that seems to work with her?
She really doesn't seem to have anything outstanding offensively/defensively unless the stars align with the portals somehow, her meter charge seems slow for low payout even if you stand in the garlic, and her 15s CD dodge is depressing compared to Gura's release Plushie or Fubuki's screenclear + 3s invuln.

[Anonymous No.]

For Halu5 runs, do people build it up over time, or do they just rush Halu5 instantly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42987688
Bats are the solution to all your problems
So Eldritch Horror is a really good weapon for her, after that, the usual good weapons work fine
For items, Uber Sheep and Devil horns are good to get more life steal, the other items are whatever you think is important, but avoid the devil hat since your main weapon and source of life steals is really short ranged
I like to run the Kronii stamp for faster attacks and the bat one for more life steal, but that might be overkill

[Anonymous No.]

>>42988928
Acerola Juice makes any weapon attack life steal for a period of hits, not just your bite. Dragonfire is completely counterproductive to biting but you probably still want to grab it for Nodoka.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42988418
Matsuri is kinda fun to play, but yeah she's on the weaker side.
As for Shion's portals though I still don't understand what synergy do they even have with the rest of her kit. Are you supposed to teleport to where the garlic is? Like what even is their purpose?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42988770
Akukin/Shiraken/Usaken stamps. Alternatively you can run without solo-weapons, do a more traditional Snow Sake/Flattening Board collab setup and replace Akukin stamp with Flower or Stun stamps

[Anonymous No.]

>>42988916
It is preferable to rush it, but only if the character can handle the increased difficulty. The sooner you get it to 5, the more XP you will get, but again only if you can actually kill the enemies quickly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42988632
Basically her special is one of her passives while one of her passives is actually her special tied to its own cooldown
A bit of a dick move because that makes items like Idol Costume and Piki Piki Piman utterly useless for her, but that way you can actually abuse items that nerf special bar gain (so far it's just Hope Soda)

[Anonymous No.]

>>42988916
Depends on the character and level.
Stage 1 Hard as plenty of room to kite enemies so many characters, especially ones going for Micomet with the Lava Bucket, can do pretty well going Halu5 for all the extra xp and other bonuses as fast as possible. I imagine it is trickier on Stage 2 Hard, I normally delay it a bit more there until I have my weapons I want to start building a collab as well as a recovery item.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42989119
She's also bad with GWS pill because your special fills so quickly and you might want to stick to a form for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>Want to get all achievements
>This requires me to Gachikoi all characters
>But only really want Gachikoi for my actual oshi
I genuinely wish I wasn't so autistic about this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42989257
It's just a game.

[Anonymous No.]

Who is the strongest character?

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like I'm going to have to turn off upgrades to get anymore enjoyment out of the game

[Anonymous No.]

This might be a dumb question, but does selling a stamp remove it from the game entirely, or is the ui just exaggerating?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42989417
Removes it from the current run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42989347
Personally it feels like Irys solo weapon + solo stamp. Subaru is probably the tankiest character with her revive and some other defense items.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42989375
>playing Mio and Haato without special unlocked
An interesting preference you have.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I aim with mouse?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42989665
Left click to activate it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42989701
and right click activates the special, which has fucked me up when trying to do the no special run

[Anonymous No.]

>>42989347
Depends on what you are trying to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42989257
I had the same problem too but I got over it eventually

[Anonymous No.]

>>42989701
Doesn't work. Guess all controls are just fucked for me for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>42989470
Thanks for the reassurance anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42989077
I think shion is meant to hang out in her garlic and then if she needs to get out of it will have a portal she can hop into since the garlic drifts around. The portals and garlic do extra are damage for you, with the portals pulsing and the garlic basically just bring super spider cooking.
In reality it doesn’t all work together like that.

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>>42989079
Those are fairly universal good main weapon/AoE collab builds for sure, but I assume they just work because they're strong, and not because they have any particular synergy with her 3 skills?

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>>42990557
Snow sake/broken dreams work well because they’ll make enemies spend more time in the AoE of garlic and portals. Flattening Board is good because she is flat so she gets a big bonus to the size and damage.

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>>42989347
>Best DPS with good RNG + collab build
Seems to be Aqua as per the time attack runs.
>Best DPS with main weapon only build
Probably still Ame
>Best afk character/Endless Yagoo facetanker
Subaru does it pretty trivially as others have been saying, especially since Sora got a nerf.
Max %HP Survivability has been buffed a lot this patch with Horn + Plushie changes so there might be others like Gura/Sora can probably still pull it off. Maybe Piman builds on Okayu/Mio/similar characters are viable now? Haven't tired Mel/Choco there.
>Tankiest with bad RNG/itemless
I'd actually argue FBK for being the generally strongest RNG-proof character on skills alone (if all your stamps/collab levels are meh), her defensive tech also being a screenclear + boss melter lets her basically bullshit her way to Hard bosses even with a complete clusterfuck builds and being able to invuln -> special -> invuln chain for 10sec lets her basically skip entire bullet hell segments even where there's no enemies for other tanky girls to lifesteal off of.

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>>42991013
>>Best DPS with main weapon only build
>Probably still Ame
No way in hell is it Ame. It's Mumei, and I'd put IRys aober her too

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Baking up new thread

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>>42991013
Amelia, better dps than mumei and irys? I get she has a better special but at all other times I would think they would have her beat. Perhaps Korone too.

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>>42991379
>>42991379
>>42991379

Its up