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https://twitter.com/hololivepro_en/status/1624649502526144513
come home Zaion

>> No.42881811

>>42881699
zaion's problem was that she couldn't work with management and lied to them and niji management is notoriously lenient, I don't know why you think she'd fare better in an even stricter corpo

>> No.42882091
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42882091

>>42881811
pretty much

If she wants to try another place she'd be more suited to Phase Connect where that yab content would fly better.

>> No.42882202

>>42881811
Niji management is lenient?

>> No.42882245

Can't wait for her to come back so the begging can end.

Wait, actually nevermind, the begging probably wont stop.

>> No.42882383

>>42881699
This is unironically Cover throwing a life jacket to anyone in Nijisanji

>> No.42882795

>>42881811
The issue is that she has no one to vent about twittards and jews with in nijiEN, in Holo she can do that with Mori, Ame and others.

>> No.42883057
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42883057

>>42882091

>> No.42883164

>>42883057
You say that but you just know it would go so much better.

No retarded permissions shit too and they don't care about emulation.

>> No.42883418

>>42882202
>multiple nijien members played house party, an actual porn game

>> No.42883445

>>42881699
I honestly believe Zaion would behave better in Hololive...not that she did anything that Holo would suspend her for. Instead of being shunned by cliques, she'll have senpai to look up to. I'm serious.

>> No.42883572

>>42881811
I think Holobros are just that desperate, at this point

>> No.42883626

>>42883572
they just know good talent when they see it.

>> No.42883670

>>42882795
I agree. Especially not having their own members shit on her.

>> No.42883741
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42883741

>>42883445
It would have been worse under hololive. The outrage would have been far worse.

Niji has so many ENs it's hard to keep track. Whilst hololive still only has two gens plus the homostars (and IRyS although she is basically 2nd gen at this point).

She was in trouble no matter what jap corpo she was in. This is why people are saying she would be better off in a non-JP small corpo instead, where she could be off the rails.

>> No.42883744

>>42883626
Well yeah, anything would be pretty good compared to what they gotta put up with between Myth and Council. Even a Genshin streamer is preferable.
I don't blame them at all.

>> No.42883750

>>42883670
If there's one thing you gotta give HoloEN, it's that talents either genuinely get along at least on a professional level, or they're hiding tensions really really well.

>> No.42883911

>>42883572
Unlike Njisisters Holofags at least accept when Cover fucks up, they know management dropped the ball by not hiring the Xsoleil girls.

>> No.42884085

>>42883741
I disagree. Hololive understands to not take Twitter too seriously. Much of what's being said about her is twisted to their narrative. From saying she said the girl deserved rape, to not being allowed to talk about mods in FF game (which most all FF streamers have been doing after the recent bans).

>> No.42884148

>>42884085
Hololive JP understands to not take twitter seriously, HoloEN is another story, just look at fucking tempus

>> No.42884170

>>42883626
I think it’s that she’s currently /vt/‘s golden girl and they want to be the ones who can tout her around like, “yeah, holofags got her!” despite knowing zero about her.

>> No.42884286

>>42883911
I guess they fucked up a lot since I always see Holofags begging for Nijisisters' girls since the first gen
Again, I don't blame the desperation, especially when looking at what they've got instead.

>> No.42884315
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42884315

You're all aware Zaion is a Genshin addict, right? She streams it weekly.
She can't play Genshin in Hololive. That alone means she'd never join.

>> No.42884362

>>42883164
She was bigger as an indie than most of PC. It's still a mystery why she joined NijiEN in the first place

>> No.42884467

>>42884148
Tempus is doing better. Soon Yagoo himself will join in their meetings.

>> No.42884589

>>42884170
I checked her PL streams. A true Genshin fanatic that got sponsors from them. Must been rough to be forced to start over again. She lusts for her favorite young male character and Twitter turns it into shotacon. Based, she goes along with it. But all in all, it's just a toon.

>> No.42884832

>>42884315
rrats say Hololive will get Genshin perms April/May. BB is cleaning up anti-holo, and may even stream HoloFes4.

>> No.42884901

>>42884832
Narratives are just narratives. Tell me when it actually happens.
Would be funny to see Hololive jump balls deep into the Chinese market again after so much moral positing was centered around their lack thereof, though.

>> No.42885055

>>42884362
She goes from 3view to steady 4view, guaranteed 3D debut, guaranteed merch income, help (even if minor) with stuff like music covers, worldwide platform as opposed to being a slave of the Twitch algo.

On paper it's a fantastic deal. The rabid SJW clique, actively hostile management that blatantly pays favorites, and JP oversight so disdainfully absent it bombs even giant live concerts are the sort of nasty surprises you'd find after signing on.

I honestly feel bad for her, and for all the other livers whose goal is clearly just to entertain. They're caught up in this negative tailspin that simultaneously could have been avoided multiple times but that they specifically as individuals didn't have the power to stop. I don't know, at this point I think Zaion should just cut her losses and go back to being an indie. You can't trust management to hold to the positive sides of the deal, anyways, not after they sicced Twitter on you and gleefully allowed a coworker to anti you in public.

>> No.42885082

>>42884901
I agree, believe it when I see it. Especially that Hololive is doing the HoloEN cafe collab with Taiwan. But if Hololive does go public, China will be ready.

>> No.42885115

>yugo graduated
>12 members on vacation after millie's thing
>elira pendragon on vacation after the unfriending
>petra penguin in tokyo doing "stuff
>zaion suspended
>kyo hiding in his basement
>reimu (whereabouts unknown)
>vox fleeing the country because chinese women are hunting him down
>20/32 members not streaming
Nijinigs literally imploding on themselves.

>> No.42885161

>>42885055
>I honestly feel bad for her, and for all the other livers whose goal is clearly just to entertain. They're caught up in this negative tailspin that simultaneously could have been avoided multiple times but that they specifically as individuals didn't have the power to stop. I don't know, at this point I think Zaion should just cut her losses and go back to being an indie. You can't trust management to hold to the positive sides of the deal, anyways, not after they sicced Twitter on you and gleefully allowed a coworker to anti you in public.
>THEY'RE TRAPPED IN THE BELLY OF THE BEAST AND THE BEAST IS BLEEDING TO DEATH
Based

>> No.42885276

>>42881699
No company want her if she quit from niji now, indie is the only way.

>> No.42885302

>She should go back to being an indie

That's literally bending the knee to all of her antis on twitter. They would throw a fucking celebration if that happened.

>> No.42885380

>>42885276
Holo has taken girls from other corps before.

>> No.42885386

It would be a massive fucking mistake if people like Pomu, Selen, and Rosemi didn't take this opportunity. Like seriously, a massive mistake.
NijiEN is going down the tubes. And they would be 10x more successful in Hololive.

>> No.42885467

>>42883057
nta but he's right. Zaion belongs in PC. She would do just as good as her old self over there, maybe even better

>> No.42885538

>>42881699
>more males
When will they learn?

>> No.42885600

>>42885467
The people who say this don't watch her.

>> No.42885775

>>42885386
>>42885380
You fuckers better actually watch and support them if they transfer.

>> No.42885800

>>42885538
>If we keep accelerating, surely people will start watching the holomales! Trust me!
>t. brainrotted staff who spend too much time on twitter

>> No.42885815

>>42883750
Seriously, Corps like NijiEN and VShoujo need to put out infighting quickly, instead of flaming them. Common sense?

>> No.42885857

>>42885775
Unlike twittards, Holofans do watch streams.

>> No.42885917

>>42885538
They're learning rn, with NijiEN imploding, the momentum cover been seeking to rule the ENmale market could be up anytime soon

>> No.42885938

>>42885917
Fuck it, I'm sending my app in tonight

>> No.42885962

>>42885917
And then they get another Kyo and EN literally dies.

>> No.42885992

>>42885538
Said it before, they are trying acceleration with the males. Plan 2, after plan 1 failed. Holo doesn't half-ass things and will see it succeed.

>> No.42885999

>>42885386
I'd take any of those 3 before Zaion. Pomu first but any of those 3 work.

>> No.42886170

>>42885055
>>42884085
You people are complete retards. If she couldn't be even in Nijien which is much less strict than holo, why the fuck do you think shes going to respect the rules in there? dont be insane
> actively hostile management that blatantly pays favorites
Are you in the first half of 2022? There's barely any favoritism in NijiEN since the second half o 2022, with other waves getting more merch and collabs.

>> No.42886252

>>42885386
I'm literally praying for all of them to get accepted. I hope Cover is generous with this hiring phase because there are a lot of quality girls from defunct shitty companies YAGOO can save.

>> No.42886256

>>42885115
It's like they wanted to create the biggest and most dysfunctional group ever.

>> No.42886348

>>42885082
>Xi jinping will personally spend billions just to get back at hololive for saying the t-word.

>> No.42886350

>>42885386
Rosemi... meh. But that would be an insane power boost for HoloEN. NijiEN would never recover.

>> No.42886361

>>42886170
One word: Respect.
After experiencing the treatment from NijiEN and it's members, she lost respect.
Now if say, an ambassador gremlin took her under her wing, Zaion would follow her sempai. Humour is not that different and learn how to be immune to twitter.

>> No.42886472

>>42885386
>he thinks nijifans wouldn't harass them into graduation if they deserted their camp for the other

>> No.42886531

>>42882202
Yeah to a point that the Niji Talent made a separate discord than using their official one.

>> No.42886600

>>42886472
It's 2023. Hololive fans are much more organized and upper management have taken a stand against harassment. Nijichink sisters can try but they won't get much done.

>> No.42888905

>>42881699
Pako is waiting

>> No.42888990

>>42881699
The implosion of NijiEN
>Yugo graduated
Yugo was hired for her huge PL numbers, but wanted to debut in the more popular male wave using a male model. She was really dumb, lazy, and worst of all couldn't even speak english. Yugo was frustrated with her manager and leaked discord messages of her getting grilled for her terrible numbers. Later she was graduated for being insolent to management. The first graduation in NijiEN.
>the cuckening
Kyo and Enna decided to hold a 1 on 1 offcollab in her bedroom. They held hands on stream, flipped off her fans, and laughed about them being cucks. Enna accumulated significant antis.
>AR Live cancelled
They had an AR Live concert planned, where everyone would be getting 3D models. Likely it was originally for Luxiem-only, they took nearly a month off filming it in Japan. But the other members felt that it should go in debut-order rather than preferring the most popular wave, so they probably demanded that everyone get 3D. This was too much to ask so the concert was cancelled 10 days after being announced. They all scheduled breaks to film for the concert, and when it was cancelled they took their breaks anyway as a form of protest. Because of this, right now NijiEN has almost nobody streaming.
>Secret GC stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg2XZDyi7Vs
Millie invited about 9-12 other NijiEN members to banter in an anonymous discord that was being filmed for stream. "Slumsaint" (almost certainly Enna) called out 4chan, and the entire stream became about mocking 4channers sounding incredibly asshurt the whole time. Later Millie said that people took the stream off the rails because they didn't read the rules. She took a break and hasn't streamed for 2 weeks now, she appears to be suspended.
>zaion suspended
The flagship talent of NijiEN's new XSoleil wave, she kept making yab moments on stream like joking about rape, endorsing piracy and not listening to management. She was suspended indefinitely and there's a huge uproar about it right now. Twitter is calling for her to be cancelled, while /pol/ is calling her based.
>Kyo runs away
He agreed with the anti-zaion haters and has been getting flamed for it, so now he's having ""internet issues"" and can't stream.
>Elira parasocial incident
It's a more minor drama, but NijiEN has been dealing with the issue of "parasocial fans" ever since the Kyo/Enna cucking. Enna repeatedly states that fans should not be parasocial with the streamer, a ridiculous concept. Elira copied her talking points and it caused a big outrage with her fans. This whole discussion about "parasocial fans" is weighing down NijiEN a lot.
>Vox doxxed
He is now suspending his streaming indefinitely and fleeing for his life from angry fans. Who knows when he'll return if he even does.
>Holo auditions
The only light at the end of the tunnel for NijiEN is that maybe some of them can transfer to Hololive. Unfortunately Anycolor has brutal non-compete contracts that might prevent them from doing this.

>> No.42889173

>>42886472
nijifans have proven these past few months that all theyre good for is shitting their own bed
even their own livers hate them
so I'm not worried

>> No.42889299

>>42881699
Her favourite game is Genshin. She is never joining Hololive.
The best ones to poach would be Selen and Pomu.

>> No.42889350

>>42883057
Obese brown bitch is nothing without her handful of brown fetish orbiters.

>> No.42889500

>>42882202
compared to hololive, they certainly are

>> No.42889558

>>42881699
Isnt like every HoloEN either not streaming, sick and/or trans/lgbtqt+? Also they kind of hate each other.

Zaion should join HoloJP.

>> No.42892003

>>42888990
theres probably more

>> No.42893665

>>42885055
>actively hostile management that blatantly pays favorites
So just like how HoloEN management is playing favorites for Tempus? Cool

>> No.42893967

>>42883626
>they just know good talent when they see it.
You shitheads flip-flop between criticizing EN members to crying that they should join holo. You motherfucker can't be more fucking transparent outside of getting hormone therapy!

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>>42882091
>>42883164
>>42885467
>>42885386
>>42886252
You don't watch her and you only care about your preferred company. Fuck off.

>> No.42895954

>>42885302
It’s not like she can just go back to being the real zaion in Niji. Any jokes she makes will just get picked to death again and she’ll actually be terminated . Antis won the second she got suspended

>> No.42896073

>>42883445
Hololive has much stricter management and content standards. She would objectively do worse there.

>> No.42896190

>>42881699
They wrote an article about it
https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2023/02/12/nijisanji-en-virtual-youtuber-zaion-lanza-suspended-over-offensive-jokes/

>> No.42896414

>can't be funny or interesting without being edgy
She's simply prone to failure

>> No.42896534

>>42896414
Say the same for every lewd/loli-baiting vtuber out there. Beyond that as someone who actually watched her she was more unfiltered but never needed to rely on it. I think her high energy was the main sell point for me , and genuinely was passionate about what she played

>> No.42896610

>>42893967
>holofags all a monolithic entity

>> No.42897862

>>42896534
Yeah she wasn't that edgy at all except for the shotas in the basement jokes but that's more silly than anything

>> No.42898793

>>42896610
With the way you retards act, yes it may be possible.

>> No.42900473

>>42881699
Stricter management aside, holo doesnt have any chink game permission. She wont join if she cant play genshit

>> No.42901544

>>42898793
i am membered to one of the nijis, moronic tribalfag

but even i can recognize when a corpo is being absolutely retarded and imploding

>> No.42903662

>>42881699
i don't want a genshin shitter in holo

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