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A thread for the Vampire survivors inspired Holo fan game

Link to download the game:
https://kay-yu.itch.io/holocure

HoloCure Twitter:
https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame

Leader boards are currently down because too many people are playing the game. Will be fixed in a later update. You can still play and brag about your score here though so we don't clutter up other threads

Assortment of information(e.g. unlocks etc.)
https://rentry.org/vehan

Previous thread:
>>42833409

Upcoming Streams:
>Mumei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBdPbm9pqQA&ab

>> No.42856751
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>:3

>> No.42856762
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Big numbers good, but holy shit does she struggle late. Having only weapon really wastes a large chunk of Susie's kit, and bosses are a pain

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Tried to get the 10k damage achievement with Suisei with this setup but I only got around 4k.
I don't know if there's a way to improve it except getting more attack stats from level up but I don't think it's possible to get 10k with Suisei.

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>>42856751
Am I the only one who thinks Magic Garlic should be Mandragora-sensei instead? Shion doesn't like the garlic thing, it was always a forced meme to pair her with Aqua's onion and I don't think even redditors still bring it up, do they? And Mandragora-sensei running around, picking up EXP and buffing Shion, makes way more sense than an inanimate herb doing it.

>> No.42857546

>>42857194
DO Shiokko even have a fan representation? I don't recall one, which is probably why Mandragora is used as an enemy, and can't be used in place of the garlic

>> No.42857706
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>Got 4/5 in 4 rolls
>Proceed to go 22 dry
At least it's over.

>> No.42857729

>>42857546
Huh? This is her fan representation >>42856751

>> No.42858082

>>42857546
Yes, right here >>42856751
Mandragora-sensei isn't in the game, as far as I know. Is there something I don't know?

>> No.42858118

>>42857729
I'm an idiot, just getting names mixed up. Nevermind

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>Pause playing Stage 2 Hard with Ina because I need money to buy the more spawns upgrade
>Decide to try irys

This is honestly absurd. She shreds everything with her base weapon as is, and she's also got the ridiculous healing. I haven't even taken the damage skill.

>> No.42858224

>>42857706
>Over
Get that gacha rank 21 anon.

>> No.42858324

>>42858146
I think IRyS and Amelia had stronger weapons to compensate for limited aiming so when the limitation was removed with no nerf they just became overpowered.

>> No.42858371

>>42858224
Yeah yeah... I'll get to the autism grind later. I haven't been binge playing.

>> No.42858478

>>42857194
Garlic works as a double reference to Shion and to the Garlic in the original Vampire Slayers I think.

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42858516

What counts as lifesteal?
>Mel main attack and skill
>Lifesteal sticker
>Eldritch Horror collab (EN Curse + Spider Cooking)

Also the cute new character illustrations for the game make me act up for some reason...

>> No.42858599

>>42858516
The life-steal sticker counts too of course.
I think that is the only one you didn't list.

>> No.42859393

So what's the tier list for the girls for this patch?

>> No.42859752

>>42859393
Matsuri is pretty bad. Her weapon's knockback is annoying on bosses when you smack them out of range or into a mob of enemies. I also have no idea what her special does either.

>> No.42859801

>>42858599
I listed it right there...

>> No.42859993

>>42859393
IRyS is SSS-tier for gold farming.

>> No.42860177

>>42858516
Choco horns count too.
>Eldritch Horror collab (EN Curse + Spider Cooking)
Neat. I haven't unlocked EN curse yet.

>> No.42860236

Got to level 3 normal for the first time

Was using Suisei, I wasn't sure how I was suppose to get close to the eldritch horror

>> No.42860376

>>42860236
got to minute 20 of level 3 normal*

>> No.42860383

>>42860236
It has really long windows of opportunity when it's not casting danmaku in your direction.

>> No.42860483

>>42859393
Aki is an absolute beast
Aqua is also extremely solid
Subaru, Mel and Choco can be immortal
Haachama requires some brain to use but she's good
Ayame has a very good kit but it ruined by the main weapon's terrible scaling
Matsuri is kinda bad
Don't know how to feel about Shion, I personally think she's Matsuri tier but some anons believe she's quite strong

>> No.42860695

>>42860383
that might have been it, I wasn't very patient and just kept eating shit trying to get close

>> No.42861138

>>42860483
Shion is definitely weird. She works well focusing on her main attack for damage or spreading debuffs, but the rest of her kit is super underwhelming to the point of almost being ignorable, if not for the irritation of stepping on a portal accidently.

>> No.42861523

The Devil Hat is actually really powerful once you get it going, especially if combined with other items like the Face Mask. 1.6x damage multiplier is incredible.
I'm finding it works really well with Snow Elf Sake, which in addition to freezing and knocking back can hit out to the corners of the screen.

>> No.42861699

Thoughts on the solo stamp? I just got my first Nodoka clear with Mumei, BL Fujo, Elite Cooking and the level 3 solo stamp (+120% damage).

>> No.42862137

Solo stamp doesn't work if you limit weapon slots at the shop, right? Since it doesn't count as "empty".

>> No.42862271

>>42862137
It does work, the shop prevents weapons form appearing in levelup/boxes it doesn't remove your slots.

>> No.42862344

>>42862137
It does work.
>>42861699
Very powerful, nigh on necessary for some characters and overkill on others. It is a pain going solo weapon build and waiting (hoping) for it to appear though.

>> No.42862528

>>42861699
playing with maxed weapon limit and forcing solo stamp is more fun than forcing elite cooking flattening board

>> No.42862691

>>42862528
>Elite cooking
I prefer MiComet unless I have an on-hit effect I want to force lots of rolls for.

>> No.42863013

>Good Roboco run
>see +1 extra projectile sticker and think I will be spamming out double blasts
>no change
It doesn't play nice with every projectile it seems

>> No.42863255

>>42863013
Only multi-projectiles. One the item screen, multi-projectile weapons have 3 small dots in the top right corner. Roboco's changes from multi-weapon to blast-weapon when it awakens unfortunately.

>> No.42863294

>>42863013
It only works on weapons the game considers to be multiple projectile already.

>> No.42863309

>>42861699
The best stamp in the game if you buy weapon restriction... except if you are going for a max hits Greed Stamp build in which case you want more hits that do less damage.

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>>42861523
>>42849829
And that's stage 2 normal done too, felt like a cakewalk after stage 2 hard but I think that hat played a big part in it. I'm going to need to try it out again in the future, but her +1 projectile for Snow Elf Sake might have been part of it as it ensured all 4 cardinal directions are hit. Would need an enchantment on it to do the same otherwise.
Only need to finish Stage 1 with Aqua now to finish her Gachikoi and move on to someone else. Probably Shion next.

>> No.42865339

how do you unlock stage 2 hard?

>> No.42865677

I've done all the hard challenges, now I just need to beat Nodoka

>> No.42865773

Poor BL Book
>Already was overshadowed by MiComet for Psycho Ax collab
>Now Frozen Sea is obsolete for Snow Flower Sake

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Ahaha what the fuck? Ame is really good for this mode.

>> No.42866671

The Haachama Cooking + EN Curse collab seems like a worse version of MiComet

>> No.42866714
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>>42865773
It had its time, Frozen Sea was great Snow Flower Sake came along. Snow Flower Sake will probably get nerfed soon.
For now it has Aki Rosenthal who still likes the speed debuff for Muki hits, though it is strange to think of Aki turning down Alcohol.

>> No.42866830

>>42866671
It has the heal going for it but it doesn't seem to do enough damage to actually get the kills needed for the heal to work.
A shame, since EN Curse is great fun to use while building to a collab.

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>already too used to playing 1 and 2 hard so much to the point the real challenge is staying awake doing stage 1 and 2 normal to oshi holos i want
kay please...change the oshi requirement..

>> No.42868170

>>42862271
>>42862344
https://files.catbox.moe/yrwejl.mp4
Am I just retarded or is my game bugged?

>> No.42868272

>>42867959
Refund some of your upgrades and/or turn on hardcore mode then

>> No.42868298

>>42867959
>oshi requirement
I was thinking about this, I would have a few character specific challenges for each girl like for Mori one challenge might to have her workaholic buff active for a certain total time or to do a certain amount of damage in one hit with her scythe

>> No.42868594

>>42863665
And there's stage 1 with Aqua, another Gachikoi down. It was boring as hell, not even 1 weaponing spiced it up much.
>>42867959
Eh, it could be worse. I'm just disappointed it didn't track which characters from the previous updated that had finished stage 1 and 2. It tracked my Stage 2 hard completions though, unfortunately.

>> No.42868638

>>42863665
>Kusogaki shackle
Of course it was a cake walk, you nullified the difficulty increase from halu

>> No.42868690

>>42865339
beat stage 1 hard

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>>42868594
Oops, forgot my image, as if it matters.

>> No.42868937

>>42868638
I doubt it made much of a difference once Devil Hat + Facemask were online. In theory it helped with the downside of those two as well, but nothing got close enough for their negatives to do anything.

>> No.42869185

>>42868594
How many gachikois have you finished?

I still only done 4 myself.

>> No.42869235

Anyone have a list of the new collabs?

>> No.42869334

>>42865677
The easy way was to do it with only one weapon

>> No.42869552

>>42869235
all collabs here >>42836102

>> No.42869676

MOOMCURE
https://youtu.be/nBdPbm9pqQA
https://youtu.be/nBdPbm9pqQA
https://youtu.be/nBdPbm9pqQA

>> No.42869958

Best talent that could tank and stand/not move?

>> No.42870009

Kusogaki shacle shouldn't remove Halu's difficulty. Please fix this Kay, I want to try Asacoco + Kusogaki with actual Halu difficulty

>> No.42870240

game just crashed for Mumei live on stream, don't think I've seen that before

>> No.42870254

>>42858224
>21
doesn't it stop at 20?

>> No.42870301

>>42870254
You need rank 21 for max fandom level.

>> No.42870309

>>42870254
you start at 1

>> No.42870485

>>42870009
>Kusogaki shacle shouldn't remove Halu's difficulty
Yes they should, and they do.
>I want to try Asacoco + Kusogaki with actual Halu difficulty
Do it without the Kusogaki if you care about difficulty, you Kusogaki.

>> No.42870509

How do you even start gold farming? All the guides I see are like "HAVE EVERYTHING FULLY UPGRADED IN THE SHOP AND HAVE YOUR GIRLS AT HIGH G RANK". Like bro, that's what I'm hoping to do by trying to farm gold.

>> No.42870599

>>42870509
Irys + Greed stamp

>> No.42870612

>>42870509
Gacha for Irys -> buy stamp system (500 coins) -> get greed stamp during stage 1- > make money

>> No.42870685

What stages do you want to see in future updates?

I wanna see some Minecraft areas like Phoenixton and the Sports Fest/Summer Festival

>> No.42870742

>>42870599
>>42870612
I mean I know I'm supposed to get Halu, and probably getting the piggy bank too, but what other weapons/collabs and items/secondaries should I be trying to focus on besides that?

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42870758

Anyone want to make an updated image of this?

>> No.42870776

>>42870685
Atlantis.
It is more likely to be in the game than Gura is to finish it.

>> No.42870794

I love playing Mel what does that say of my personality.

>> No.42870818

stage 3 was very disappointing
it was way too easy compared to stage 2

>> No.42870847

>>42870742
You don't. Just use your weapon and don't upgrade your damage stat

>> No.42870852

>>42870758
Already done.
>>42869552

>> No.42870872

>>42870485
>Do it without the Kusogaki
I would if there's a single healing item strong enough to completely negate Asacoco's health restriction

>> No.42870901

>>42870852
ty

>> No.42870912

>>42869958
In theory, Korone. Granted if you are asking about the couch potato achievement anyone can do it. But Korone can get up to 68.5% damage reduction with membership/daki/breastplate, and 79% when retribution procs. Add to that her built in food drops and increase to all healing effects from Chocokorone, and she's a absolute juggernaut.

>> No.42870946

>>42870818
>it was way too easy compared to stage 2
Maybe because you're fully upgraded now???

>> No.42870972

>>42869958
Subaru, she has a revive skill

>> No.42871113

>>42870946
i was playing like how aqua was playing with no stat upgrades except for stamps and like the one time upgrades that add gameplay value. I spent like 10 hours trying to clear stage 2 and then stage 3 I one shotted it.

>> No.42871143

>>42870509
>get Irys
>get greed sticker
>profit
>Verification not required.

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>>42870742
You don't need any other weapon, Irys main wep beats everything by default. Superchat, piggy bank, halu, plush, and one or two other defensives are enough to easily farm a run. Focus on speed/crit on levels for stats

>> No.42871198

did some skill/special got changed?
I don't remember korone special being like that

>> No.42871232

>>42871113
You probably have just gotten better.

>> No.42871271

>>42871198
Some skills changed, but Korone's special did not.

>> No.42871371

>>42871232
nah i went straight for it
I also had 2 supers in order to beat stage 2 so inb4 it doesn't count but yeah the biggest difference is that the early game was really rough for stage 2 and the 13 minute mark was actually hard with shit on screen. The only hard thing in stage 3 was the shiokkos running super fast at you.

>> No.42871377

>>42870509
Character with multihit / rapid fire attack, greed & explosion stamps, superchatto and finally halu for more enemies to hit. Obviously it helps if you have the gold yield upgrades.

>> No.42871397

>>42870847
>>42871186
Alright, thanks

>> No.42871398

>>42868170
ok so im not the only autist who noticed it doesnt work

>> No.42871615

>>42870946
Not that anon but I think it's the fact you can aim with the mouse instead of keyboard or controller. I didn't buy any upgrade other than special before the new update, and I beat stage 3 with Ame without upgrades who became much better now that she can aim at any direction. I only bought the stamps and fandom for stage 2 hard though.

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>>42868170
Your game is most likely bugged.
It works for me.

>> No.42871699

>>42870818
After a bunch of hololive vtubers irl were raped by Stage 2's difficulty, Kay Yu said that future stages won't get any harder than that.

He was shocked that most hololive vtubers sucked at playing his game and could barely get past Stage 1. Let alone beat Stage 2.
But I guess I could understand it tho. Imagine working so hard to make a game that your oshi will play, but she sucks so much and won't get to see the levels you spent months creating.

>> No.42871737

Is there any other way to speed up the game? I want hem to add a 10 or 15 minute version in exchange of speeding up the anmations.

>> No.42871791

speaking of no stat upgrades, can you do hard mode with no stat upgrades? I feel the mobs are too fast and tanky

>> No.42871827
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42871827

Knight's Milk + Size Up Stamp looks so good on Kiara.

>> No.42871978

After forgetting to take off the "one weapon only" lock before switching to Shion for on a Hard stage, I retract my previous statements about her. She rather could use some buffs.

>> No.42872007
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42872007

Seems Aqua is overthrowing Ame for time attack

>> No.42872073

>>42871699
>After a bunch of hololive vtubers irl were raped by Stage 2's difficulty, Kay Yu said that future stages won't get any harder than that.
At least there are Hard versions, I guess - only holomems who actually play the game would bother with them anyway.
>But I guess I could understand it tho. Imagine working so hard to make a game that your oshi will play, but she sucks so much and won't get to see the levels you spent months creating.
Reminds me of "don't meet your heroes" saying

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>>42872007

>> No.42872180

>>42872093
Looks like using Aqua to +projectile on broken dreams is pretty potent.

>> No.42872209

>>42872093
>>42872007
i thought everonye said aqua was not that great
do we just not know how to play her or is it just aqua being good in this mode or aquacrew being sweaty gamers

>> No.42872241

>>42871699
>Imagine working so hard to make a game that your oshi will play, but she sucks so much and won't get to see the levels you spent months creating.
Except Pekora has had no problem beating levels, and neither really did Polka the one time she had played it thus far (though she hasn't done stage 2 yet)

>> No.42872264

>>42872209
>do we just not know how to play her or is it just aqua being good in this mode or aquacrew being sweaty gamers
yes

>> No.42872454

>>42872209
Aqua is fine, her main issue is spacing to make use of both her sololive and gamermaid buffs. But I guess to slow start of time attack makes that easy, and the +projectile on Broken Dreams seems incredibly strong

>> No.42872670
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>>42870685
minecraft sport festival, not sure how to make this stage since there are multiple contests there
pekora's latest 3D stage with a gimmick where you need to kill certain mobs so they don't become superbuffed nousagis
luna's cake themed room with this cow as the boss

>> No.42872873

Did any holo beat hard 2 yet?

>> No.42873080

Mumei about to beat stage 3 first try

>> No.42873128

>>42872873
I think Koyo is planning to do it later today
Haven't seen latest Ela stream, wouldn't be surprised if she did

>> No.42873144

>>42871827
The stun stamp is really good too from what I tried, same with the explosion one. The multi-hit on a big, wide arc is really nice.

>> No.42873162

>>42873080
You know by now that doing any map without Halu 5 doesn't count.

>> No.42873213

>>42873080
Based Moom

>> No.42873242

>>42873080
should be easy for her. she beat everything in the previous update first try as well iirc

>> No.42873255 [DELETED] 

my preferred stamps are Attack up, Size up, and Haste up

>> No.42873277

>>42873144
Polka stamp works well too because of multi-hit, even if Kiara doesn't need the slow from it.

>> No.42873750

>>42873255
>Haste up
I've never seen it

>> No.42873807

>>42873255
>Haste up is Boros
I can't believe I'm saying this but I love that little guy now.

>> No.42873874

>>42867959
It might get changed in later updates because completing more than 5 maps for each character to get oshi is too much of a grind.

>> No.42874017

>>42873874
Can you call them your oshi if you can't beat 5 stage with her?

>> No.42874111

>>42866671
Its got huge AOE and fast damage while life stealing. The damage is middle of the road but better than Elite Cooking. The real issue ive had is thaty igt completly changes both weapons and I cant take it with Aqua until the end

Another thing im looking at is MiKorone. It seems bad because of the lack of consistant coverage but the damage ticks seem strong an occsionally enemies catch on fire and keep taking damage. Dunno if that will count as a stats effect for Muki-Rpse or not though

>> No.42874135

>>42860483
>Haachama requires some brain to use but she's good

dude, you're sleeping on haachima. . she's a queen of the no move 1 weapon run. easily will do those over and over again. very strong, SSS tier.

>> No.42874164

Just how many stamps are Mumei getting in this time mode?!

>> No.42874175

in a 30 minute endless game when should you reset assuming you dont have the greed stamp?

>> No.42874275

>>42873242
>>42873080
Her character is OP, so it isn't really a surprise.

>> No.42874612

>Akirose at first draw
This shit is rigged I swear

>> No.42874691

why is she like this?

>> No.42874800

>>42874175
The gains from greed when you finally get it outweigh the time you spend getting to a point without it and resetting, so I would say reset early.

>> No.42874902

Ranking of this update
S tier: Rosenthal
A+ tier: Oozora, Minato
A tier: Yozora, Yuzuki, Murasaki
B tier: Nakiri, Natsuiro, Akai

>> No.42875301

>>42874902
why did you write their names like that? do you like the game but not the vtubers?

>> No.42875457

>>42875301
True fans will have no trouble with that. It's a way to filter tourists

>> No.42875592

>>42872007
While Aqua certainly seems to be the best at time mode atm, I noticed they placed her at the bottom of the screen. Just did a run with Haachama, no super items, no OP stamps and shaved 1,5 minutes of my previous record just by standing at the bottom.

>> No.42875659

>>42865773
>>42866714
I still like the axe BL book more than frozen sea, I Don't know if it's just imagination but it feels like a real good blender.

>> No.42875809

>>42874902
How is Aki better than Mel who never dies?

>> No.42875810
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Getting through stage 2 hard was a real pain, Ina needs buffs or some kind of rework that helps her synergize with her skills better.

>> No.42875905

>>42874902
About right but Haachama is better than Masuri Ayame and Shion. Shion isnt bad but she has a lot of problems that stand out as you play more

>>42875659
It is. Fujo doesnt even nenefit from haste and the dead area sucks while locking you out of Micomet

>>42875809
Mel is solid but Aki scales insane and can one shot anything give enougn time to charge

>> No.42875988

>>42875809
Mel require preparation, Aki win without trying

>> No.42876023

>>42875457
anon im not trying to shit on you for gatekeeping
thats based

but really?
dude its a fucking google search away

>> No.42876088

>>42875905
>can one shot anything give enougn time to charge
What maps are you playing?
The most difficult parts are when high-health enemies keep spawning. Even if you clear the screen once, if it takes more than 10 seconds to charge it's no real reprieve.

>> No.42876112

>>42875659
Frozen Sea's damage output is even worse than BL Fujoshi's, yeah, which is why it's compensated with debuff. Issue is, now that stamps are a thing you can easily attach a ton of similar debuff to your base weapon instead. Only Aki really wants to run Frozen Sea now (especially since you want to use Lamy Water for Snow Flower Sake)..

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How fat this fucker can get?

>> No.42876212

>>42874902
Considering Haato can easily make it to Yagoo on S2H with Halu5 and tank the Yagoos for several minutes, this must mean the rest are nearing broken.

>> No.42876285

>>42876212
Yeah probably just a rando's opinion.

>> No.42876309

>>42876023
threadreaders are the laziest creatures in /vt/

>> No.42876533

>>42876088
Not really an issue. Its basically a second ult for Aki and her kit is otherwise based around dropping staus effects for Mukirose. That and an excellent basic weapon that starts good and ends up still great as you level. Shes up there with Miko imo

>> No.42876628

>>42876309
fair enough

>> No.42876721

>>42876533
Do u think she's as good as game breakers like irys & rbc?

>> No.42876747

>>42876533
Her weapon is great as you level? Yeah now I know you're a real rando.

>> No.42876878

>>42876285
Lots of dumb fucks drop uneducated opinions all the time. You ever seen how many jackwagons tell every streamer to get Fujo just because "hurdur funnah sexname"?

>>42876721
I think shes in the next tier of great with Miko Gura Cali. Irys I would place in there too even with the upgrade and how good she is for coin farming"

>>42876747
Suck a dick and slit your lard filled wrists cocksucker

>> No.42877085

>>42876878
Yeah just stop larping. Aki's main weapon is forgettable compared to other characters. Show us how far you survive in 2H.

>> No.42877275

Holy fuck this stage 2 hard is impossible with a melee character, those healers are tanky as fuck and there's no way to kill them before the entire stage is surronding them and being healed.

>> No.42877337

>>42877275
Funny because I had the easiest time with Mel. Try her.
Instakill all the healers and you never die even if you jump into the horde. Just give her plushie and dragon fire.

>> No.42877474

>>42877085
NTA but Mumei is killing it as aki without even playing her kit right, literally what the fuck are you talking about

>> No.42877610

>>42877085
I told you fucking kill yourelf you dumb son of a bitch. Im not gonna fucking play contrarian asshole with some retard from /v still so mind broken over Mass Effects 3 that he acts like a crackhead for no reason.Idiot

>> No.42877646

>>42877337
...well yeah I guess just deleting them is a good option.

>> No.42877743

>>42874135
>she's a queen of the no move 1 weapon run
I didn't think about that at all, good to know, I will try that.

>> No.42877883

>>42877474
That's only 1H and it still takes her forever to kill stuff on screen. Try playing Irys with 50+ crit and main weapon with 2 AoE collabs to +5 (with Kaela item). I almost couldn't believe how fast I was at killing mobs.

>> No.42878132

I think absolute wall needs a revamped. Make is so that it's octagonal and push enemies outwards, shinra tensei style and implement gravity mechanic on the enemies where bosses are more heavy where it lessens knockback or long stuns while small weak mobs gets affected the most

>> No.42878214

>>42877610
You can't even play easymode Haachama so take your own advice.

>> No.42878870

>>42869676
Mumei really hates taking her Civilization skill for some reason...

>> No.42878949

There are quite a lot of holo that can do the no move challenge now. You think you've found the best one but there is an even better one. It is probably easier to find the worst one for it

>> No.42879339

>>42878949
Probably those who need to move to get stuff.

>> No.42879405

I wish there was a way to check your weapon enchantments mid-game at any time.

>> No.42879497

I want to do an all aoe build with Sana, getting all the largest weapon aoes from the game. What are the 4 biggest aoe collabs? I only know of two
>Micomet
>Lava/Spider cooking or EN curse/spider cookign

>> No.42879509

>>42878870
She has a hard time understanding the value of character skills in general, she only starting taking most of Aki's skills more than halfway into stage 1 hard mode. She puts her entire focus on speedrunning maxing her primary weapon and collabs

>> No.42879622

>>42879509
Some skills are lackluster and can be put off, History 2 and 3 are like that.
But yeah, I notice that with other people too from streams I've seen. A shame, Civ is particularly great.

>> No.42879847

Haven't gotten the chance to try everyone yet, who are the big winners and losers of this patch? Anyone get seriously nerfed?
I've tried Haato, Mel, Matsuri and Choco so far. Choco feels best to me of the group, Haato and Matsuri felt kind of weak.

>>42878949
>>42879339
It has to be Kiara, right? Unless dancer was dramatically reworked.

>> No.42880649

>>42879847
Azki might be rough too.

>> No.42880937

>>42878214
Aki is good your still fat and stupid

>> No.42880951

>>42879847
>>42880649
Yes it could be any of them but it's up to you
Kiara
>Close range weapon
>Trailblazer and Dancer are useless if you stay still
>Phoenix Shield helps
>Her special is good to survive, only takes a minute to recharge without idol costume
>AZKi
>Her musical note can go to good distance and pierces enemies, good
>Encore is each 7 seconds and at level 3 you can do good damage with it
>Her other skills are useless if you stay still
>Her special takes a minute and 20 seconds without idol costume

>> No.42880957

>>42875810
>Ina needs buffs or some kind of rework that helps her synergize with her skills better.
Nigga what? Her skills already have fantastic synergy, and even after all this time she's one of the best and easiest to use characters in the game. In fact, they even buffed her primary this patch if I'm not mistaken (which before was one of her weakest attributes)
She inherently gets CC and healing, which are the two biggest things a character needs to really be good in this game.
No idea if her new skill is better than the one it replaced, have to play with her some more.

If there's an older character that needs to be fixed, it's probably Fauna. Kit has very poor synergy, she has zero inherent CC in said kit, and more recent healing based characters almost entirely outclass her.

>> No.42881197

>>42879509
A lot of Holos are gonna have problems like that. Not all of them are gamer types that instantly look at skills and put the puzzle of how they combine together well

>> No.42881289

>>42873162
>You know by now that doing any map without Halu 5 doesn't count.

not that guy, but i beat stage 3 with halu5 on everyone who's run it. mummie, robocco, gura, haachima, well those are all i've tried thus far.

>> No.42881330

>>42879509
>>42881197
tbf all you really need to make Mumei work is Friend and her Awakened base weapon. Probably the easiest character to play outside of maybe Mori, just make sure you invest in one weapon at a time to get the most out of Friend.

>> No.42881381

>>42880957
>they even buffed her primary this patch if I'm not mistaken
They did, it is a burst of 3 tentacles on the blastback at level 7, just just one in a random direction.

>> No.42881458

Any strat to get the most damage in one hit challenge?

>> No.42881595

>>42879847
>who are the big winners
irys wins the most, able to aim her weapon finally and becomes the best farmer in the game thanks to stamps
ame also able to aim hers too after update but the for the rest, powerlevel seems to be more or less the same for older holos if you don't judge them based on solo stamp usage

>> No.42881620

>>42881381
There you go. Frankly it's absurd to me that anyone would claim Ina isn't good. Sometimes I'll just dive into hoards for a second because Ina can just sort of get away with it thanks to Tako heals.
Honestly the only thing in this patch that hurt her is Yagoo doll's massive nerf, since that was actually a pretty important part of her kit (granted, it was an important part of every character's kit).

>>42881458
Haven't tried it yet but I'd assume Bae with her super crits might be a good contender.

>> No.42881702

I don't like the fact that it's kind of counterintuitive to roll for gacha ranks for the new characters right now knowing they will get a new outfit in their gacha pool in the next update.

>> No.42881709

>>42881458
If you're going for a record there's this bug >>42833554
If you want to do it normally I'd presume Aki Belly Dance or maybe Kronii ult?

>> No.42881741

>>42881595
>ame also able to aim hers too after update
Wait that's actually really fucking strong. Ame already had really good damage output before, if that hasn't change she probably has some of the highest dps in the game now but without her old restrictions.
I'll have to check out IRyS too I guess.

>> No.42881759

>>42881458
Use Aki and build up her stacks for around 10 minutes and it should be enough to get it.

>> No.42881984

>>42880957
>Spoiler
It's a guaranteed damage boost whenever a weapon hits 4 enemies or one enemy 4 times so it's pretty nice IMO.

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>>42879497
micomet, snow flower sake, I'm die thank you forever, and eldritch horror...

best part is you can get all 4 without overlapping base items. you need lava bucket, axe, wamy water, glowstick, holobomb, ex-potato, EN Curse, and spider cooking.

>> No.42882219

>>42881984
Maybe. At the very least it gives her a more clear direction than the old skill did, making it clear that she favors wide or lingering attacks to trigger Fourth Wah.

>> No.42882266
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42882266

Who's the weakest character right now? I feel like it's probably Fauna.

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Ahh, that ended up being some good ass coin farming, despite me just trying to get a stage clear for the new item. Turns out Irys goes really well with the greed skull stamp.

>> No.42882655
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42882655

FAT FUCK

>> No.42882670
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42882670

Protip if you see SSRB, run the fuck away

>> No.42882683

>>42882655
What triggers the fat fuck to spawn, anyway?

>> No.42882828

>>42882683
The AO skill was changed so the harmless takos stack into each other. I kept this one alive and let them build up.

>> No.42882863

>>42882670
just like... kill him lmao

>> No.42883051

>>42882863
I couldn't kill those, but it's probably because I had 5 star marketing.

>> No.42883121

So how do you want ID to be implemented? Personal hopes include
>Built in revive for Ollie
>Buffs/general kit focused around Anvils for Kaela
>Nut spam Risu
>kit focused on Holocoins for Reine

>> No.42883212

Which are the hardest characters to beat Stage 2 Hard with?
I'm trying to get everyone to gachikoi tier, so I figured I'd start with difficult ones first. Just to get those out of the way.

>> No.42883276
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42883276

Someone mentioned that their game crashed when trying to upgrade a weapon they eliminated in a past thread. I did it myself and got the same result. However, upgrading eliminated items doesn't crash the game. I hope they fix this issue in the next update

>> No.42883335

>>42881620
You guys made me go back and play Ina and it was great fun. I also didnt expect the stun sticker to work off the tentacle mass attack but it totally does and I was stunning things at the bottom of the screen during the stage 2 horde

>> No.42883404

>>42882655(me)
The board wipe at 20 minutes kills the harmless tako too, can't nuke the boss like Aki. RIP

>> No.42883424

>>42874902
Isn't Aqua the worst character on this update?

>> No.42883432

>>42882148
alright thanks

>> No.42883512

>>42883424
No

>> No.42883525
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42883525

irys is so stupid

>> No.42883715

>>42883121
>>Ollie
>nuclear throne chicken
>has to collect her scattered body parts to revive
>weapons get randomly split among her body parts and fire at random directions
>you control her head and roll it around

>> No.42883747

>>42883424
explain this then
>>42872007

>> No.42883885

>>42883424
She's clearly one of the best.

>> No.42883946

ina's skills don't feel as synergistic as they used to, i'm not sure what she's supposed to do anymore. the takodachi skill is just straight up weird, since on one hand you want to grab a bunch of small ones for the heals but to get damage out of it you need to stack them

>> No.42884055

I take back everything I said about Shion being okay, holy shit is she bad.

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>>42883512
>>42883747
>>42883885
I was pretty much convinced that she's garbo after trying everyone, I'm glad that's not the case

>> No.42884109

>>42880957
>She inherently gets CC and healing
Healing that isn't even worth mentioning because it will not keep you alive, and to access it you often have to dive into groups of enemies. Same deal with the pops when you touch the takos, there's simply not enough to help when you'd actually need it.
Her new skill isn't bad, but even with it her damage output isn't anywhere close to what the decently strong characters can do. Her tentacles, though much improved, are still quite slow, I guess they'd best be use to spread status effects because they do get a lof of coverage when maxed. Still not even close to one of the stronger primary weapons in the game.

She has no real strengths anymore after they made the takos no longer proc on-defeat effects.

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>>42882266
i think shion is the worst holo maybe its because i was so hyped about her, fauna i'd say still decent
really bad starting weapon, becomes okay with shiraken stamp but best just slap flower stamp on it for debuff slave
warp skill thats quite useless in VS game, you don't even get anything doing said warp and it might kills you instead
damage block+atk buff in one skill but both parts are bad because of long downtime, atk buff isn't that impressive numberwise and unlike atk buffs for other holos hers doesn't have perma uptime
ult stops being good the moment it stops oneshotting whole screen
all she has going for is the garlic skill and even then its meh compared to other summon skills like bubba and ankimo

>> No.42884131

>>42884076
>G.Rank 100
JESAS

>> No.42884179
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42884179

Did they Buff/change Korone. I feel like her single target damage just melts bosses. Im having a way easier time than when she dropped. I wish Fubuki got a rework she still sucks.

>> No.42884307

>>42884179
Korone got an indirect buff via the weapon stamp and enchantment system, which is enough to make a big difference on a rapid attacking, haste character like her.

>> No.42884347

>>42884076
>>42884131
>G Rank not 445

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42884380

speaking of enchantments, are they worth using an anvil charge on or should you only rely on the ones that come with the weapon in the gachaboxes?

>> No.42884403

>>42884109
You're not going to get Inalock back anymore.

>> No.42884461

>>42884179
>>42884307
Oh, and Fubuki doesn't suck, she's ultra powerful and didn't need a buff. You just need to be good at manually dodging and kiting so you can friendzone+konkon hordes.

>> No.42884503

>>42884109
>and to access it you often have to dive into groups of enemies.
Anon what the fuck are you even talking about. Tako conversion works the same way it always has, and since takos travel toward you it's usually not a big deal collecting them. It's literally free healing on top of the best form of cc in the game (instant kill).
>her damage output isn't anywhere close to what the decently strong characters can do.
That's never been the point of her character. She's a balanced sustain character. Also, low damage is a lot easier to patch up with drops than bad cc or bad sustain.
>She has no real strengths anymore after they made the takos no longer proc on-defeat effects.
You're complaining that she isn't broken anymore. Like fuck anon a character doesn't need to break the game in half to be really good.

>> No.42884539

>>42884380
I think so, because they carry over to the Collab where it can make a big difference.
Of course you might get one that doesn't do anything on the collab. That's RNG for ya.

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42884543

I'm playing as Roboco right now and somehow my main weapon is shooting the MAX blast forward but also lower level shots backward in a spread. I don't have the Stamp that makes you shoot backward, but even if I did it would be the large MAX shot.

>> No.42884611

>>42884543
>I'm playing as Roboco right now and somehow my main weapon is shooting the MAX blast forward but also lower level shots backward in a spread. I don't have the Stamp that makes you shoot backward, but even if I did it would be the large MAX shot.
No, that's the BoneBros collab you have. It shoots the big scythes forward but also the little bullets behind you for some rear defense.

>> No.42884636

>>42884503
>You're complaining that she isn't broken anymore.
No, I'm complaining her sustain sucks. You're right she's never been about damage, which is why 4th wah feels schizo as hell. If Tentacult had been replaced by something that improved that sustain, then it would actually feel like she has synergy.

>> No.42884658

I saw the Aqua tweet. Outside time stage how good is she and how do people use her? I struggled with using her on 2 hard when Mel cleared it immediately.

>> No.42884684

If I've already upgraded my weapons past max level and then pick up Kaela's item, do the buffs apply retroactively?

>> No.42884750

>>42884636
>No, I'm complaining her sustain sucks
I don't know what else to say but get good.
>which is why 4th wah feels schizo as hell.
It's just a more focused version of her prior damage buffing skill. Instead of giving flat damage boosts for having a lot of enemies near her (which was always a little strange since she's not really built for kiting), she gets a skill that compliments her large piercing default weapon.

>> No.42884793

>>42884684
I always wait until Kaela is level 3 before upgrading collabs / maxed weapons. It's the most meta thing in my toolkit right now. Any weapon gains almost double the DPS.

>> No.42884872

>>42884793
That doesn't answer my question at all. Do the buffs apply retroactively or not?

>> No.42884900

>>42884872
Nope.

>> No.42884954

>>42884122
Warp skill is annoying. Not only is it useless, but with the way it spawns randomly, often times I'm suddenly teleported when I don't want to be.
Floating onion skill is also bad because it's so slow and you gotta stay near it. Otherwise, it'll get lost offscreen if you walk far away enough.
Lastly is her special. It's not completely bad, but the 3 second delay is long and the game doesn't let you do any damage during that time.

>> No.42885024

>>42884750
>which was always a little strange since she's not really built for kiting
She isn't built for anything anymore. She's got the lowest heal out of any healing character I can think of since it got double nerfed when inalock was patched out (no defeat effect procs, no % healing), and her damage buff isn't remarkable either. It's ok for wide area weapons, but most characters with damage buffs get better results.

>> No.42885042

Does Kay Yu hate Shion or something?

>> No.42885043

>>42884658
She's very easy to use, I cleared hard 2 on my first try with her, just pick every multi bullet weapon you can (especially broken dreams) and 1 (if golden) or 2 def items, congratulations, you just won the game.
As for stamps Shiraken and Usaken are very strong with her.

>> No.42885073

>>42884122
I think I might hold off on trying to Gachikoi her until she inevitably get buffed.
A bad main weapon and mostly bad skills makes for a bad time.

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Genuinely surprised even though I heard Aki's really strong, accidentally forgot I limited weapons and beat Stage 2's Hard mode on my 2nd try, feels good.

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>>42885042
Probably not, sometimes these things just happen I guess. Kirara and Calliope were a bit rough at release too, I'm sure he'll buff Shion.
I thought the portals were cute until playing Stage 2 hard and one appeared right under my feet and teleported me to my doom.

>> No.42885228

>>42885134
Wow, no healing item?

>> No.42885298

>>42885228
It's not that impressive since he relied on a Super item to win.

>> No.42885305

>>42885228
>he gets hit

>> No.42885310

>>42885228
Yeah, that's why I tried to spec as hard as I could into other defense items when I realized I was limited weapons and like 8 minutes in. Feeling a bit full of myself right now but I know in the next few days I'll probably find someone who beat it with a gimped setup to humble me.

>> No.42885500

>>42884954
Warp depends player skill. you could use it to escape scripted ambushes or get out of a sticky surround, for instance if you want to get past a horde in 2H. It backfires when you forget about it, but repositioning is a genuinely new strategy.
Onion's main use is killing early waves, later collecting EXP like Ame's dog and other minions. This can become important when you're pinned down and need someone to get the EXP.
The special's invulnerability is great for escaping but your lack of DPS means more enemies can spawn.
The worst culprit is Cheeky Brat, dodging every 15 seconds. This is garbage compared to Gura's constant dodge which I'm sure it was meant to be based on. If this dodge could be fixed to be like Gura then she would have more sustain as well as 2 escape tools.

Main weapon of Shion is still garbo though. The extra homing bolts should at least be piercing and constantly flying around like Mel's summoned bats.

>> No.42885526

>>42885228
I'm pretty sure the super headphones heal you.

>> No.42885569

>>42885526
Oh right, it does. Fair enough!

>> No.42885587

If you use IRyS you didn't beat the game.

>> No.42885592
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Sasuga Mumei the slaughterer.

>> No.42885610

>>42885310
Aki is pretty great, she has Muki and stamps to improve her damage and bellydance gives her a second, mega special.

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>when you get the Super Sake

>> No.42885662

>>42884658
You pick GWS and broken dreams and that's it. It clears the whole screen. Other items you might want are limiter, soda, and the sake weapon.

>> No.42885679

>>42885500
I thought Warp was pretty good when I was using it to escape ambushes, but it teleported me into more trouble than it teleported me out of it.

>> No.42885693

>abusing IRyS
>abusing Mumei
>abusing Single weapon only with solo stamp
You did not S2H, you did not beat the game

>> No.42885712

>>42885662
What's Aqua's interaction with broken dreams again? I don't remember broken dreams being too amazing.

>> No.42885716

>>42885500
I think the mechanics of EN Curse should've been how her weapon works.

>> No.42885750

>>42885712
Her +1 projectile works with the constant, screen wide rain.

>> No.42885778

>>42885712
Not the same guy but you get more projectiles also broken reams has always been solid it just wasent doing Flatening board damage

>> No.42885885

Super Item have had their droprates severely nerfed, I guess stickers are the replacements. I've seen like 2 Super Items and I've been playing nonstop since the update.

>> No.42885971

>>42885750
I looked on the wiki and saw that the rain projectile count is 6. So it goes to 7? Is that really such a big boost?

>> No.42886033

>>42885885
Supers should be limited to 1 per run or just be removed completely when characters like irys exist

>> No.42886061

>>42885971
Yes because onyan has a crit damage passive and the rain hits everyone fast so they all die at the same time

>> No.42886198

>>42886033
That's stupid, it is the opposite. If you have a character like IRyS, letting players get lucky with a few supers every few runs is no big deal.

>> No.42886371

Coyote is live

>> No.42886384

>>42886033
The game is being made by a fan of Hololive for the Holo girls to play onstream. Of course it's gonna be easy as fuck, there are a few gamers but most are retards, and if the game isn't braindead easy, they won't play it or have a good time streaming it. IRyS the game character is braindead easy and IRyS the streamer is braindead and begging Kay Yu to keep her as the ATM.

>> No.42886554

New hotfix released.
Is there a place where you can check what is the content of those hotfix?

>> No.42886611

>>42885024
Anon she's the same character that she's always been. The only thing that changed is that her healing resources are no longer bugged in a way that wouldn't be relevant anymore regardless because the item they were abused with no longer functions as it used to.
>She's got the lowest heal out of any healing character
Because healing isn't her primary thing you dumb fucking sack of shit. It's just part of her sustain. Like fuck she has an ability that instantly clears enemies and you're sitting here bitching that it doesn't heal her as much as dedicated self healers.
Fucking hell anon, the worst part is that when you bitch about characters that are easily in the upper half of the roster in regards to character strength, actual shitters are being ignored. Fauna's kit is a fucking catastrophe and she's never getting the rework she needs.

>> No.42886621

>>42885610
Yeah without that I would've been fucked desu, was able to do a few thousand damage chunks when I could stop among the swarms of enemies for a split second

>> No.42886690

>>42886554
There's a changelog, that's about it
>Build 2/11/2023
>-Many bug fixes
>-Mouse is locked to the game window if mouse mode locking is on.

>-MUMEI
>-Slightly changed the behavior of target seeking for Awakened weapon.

>-SUBARU-
>-Adjusted the effect of Oozora Police.

>> No.42886934

I never see people bring up Okayu which is weird because I feel like she's easily one of the best characters in the game.

>> No.42886941

>>42885298
Imagine being this bitter

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>>42885043
Darn. you're not wrong. Miko boss and A-chan died right when they spawned.
What's actually killing them? Broken dream or the mop? They don't even have any anvils.

>> No.42887025

>>42886934
because her kit just not fun to play, kay did dirty to fattocatto with that design. Literally just fat cat that eat a lot

>> No.42887050

So now that doll sucks I guess headphones+bandaid is the new standard for characters with no defensive abilities?

>> No.42887124

>still no reference to Koyori after three updates
Koyoyo..

>> No.42887146

>>42887025
>because her kit just not fun to play
I can understand finding it uninspired, or being annoyed that it's one note, but being able to just run into enemies to defeat them is pretty fun. It's very unique in how it plays.

>> No.42887194

>>42886611
Thats probably the same fatty saying Akis weapons were bad. Stupid people are usually the loudest and most convinc ed they are the samrtest guys in the room

>>42886934
Okayu is just alright. Theres nothing really wrong with her having fairly regular healing and an underrated instant-kill off a crit. Shes just not super-dominate.

>> No.42887204

>>42887146
>being able to just run into enemies to defeat them is pretty fun. It's very unique in how it plays.
Fubuki and Matsuri is the same, it not unique

>> No.42887206
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is shion that good to use? feels like i get murdered on the second stage with her, but the first stage is fine.

>> No.42887236

>>42886611
>Because healing isn't her primary thing you dumb fucking sack of shit.
My nigger Korone isn't a healer either and her healing vastly outclasses Ina's. Her healing resources are not merely bugged, they're fucking useless, because each heal gives her ONE HP. It's so low that doubling it would be a fucking waste of an item slot. Her tako CC circle is the one good thing she's got, but she isn't built around it, none of her skills improve it., she just gets a damage buff which she also isn't built around, and a microscopic debuff to enemies that get all the way between her legs. Upper roster my ass. I'm sure there's weaker characters, but she isn't strong and she's got no synergy.

>> No.42887244

>>42887206
Read the thread anon.

>> No.42887275

>>42887244
anon i didn't read i just hopped in

>> No.42887304

>>42887236
Absolutely baffling post.

>> No.42887393

>>42887204
>>42887236
Lemme guess same guy?

>>42887206
Shion has issues. Portals sometimes work against you particularly while repositioning her basic isnt that grand and her Ult halts all her attacks which can be death in late game hordes and her dodge may not save her. I think these sneak up on you as weaknesses during gameplay because everything seemed fine on paper and probably felt that way to designers too

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>>42887393
call me seanig all you like but you are retard

>> No.42887449

>>42887393
>>42887304
>Lemme guess same guy?
Wrong, but feel free to actually give an argument sometime that isn't "Fauna's worse off".

>> No.42887462

>>42887009
It's broken dreams, it is somehow just plain broken for Aqua.

>> No.42887471

>>42887426
>>42887449

I didnt insult anyone for no reason fatty. Fuck you

>> No.42887518

>>42887471
When did I insult you, you baby?

>> No.42887575

>>42887471
how can you see my post and think I am this retard>>42887236

>> No.42887663

>>42870742
Irys + Greed + Super Chat is the secret formula. Adding Haste Stamp, Piggy Bank or Halu is more coins assuming Halu doesn't get you killed, but neither is that big a deal compared to what Greed generates.

>> No.42887685

>>42887663
Halu is a big deal because more enemies will give you more greed procs.

>> No.42887690

I need to try harder in beating Stage 2 Hard.
We still haven't reached Vampire Survivors-tier yet in terms of "you create an absolute kill zone that nothing can penetrate and you can get a sandwich while the game is running"

>> No.42887700

>>42887663
Halu's helpful because it increases the chances you'll get the stamps earlier, too, aside from more procs in general.

>> No.42887747

>>42887690
I'm rather glad its difficult and hope it stays that way but we may eventually reach there since broken shit already exist

>> No.42887765

>>42887747
The thing is we don't have Amount increase yet which is the big one in VS

>> No.42887808

>>42887690
the game already easy af but you want more?

>> No.42887920

>>42887690
Find an archived copy of release version and play Ina lock.

>> No.42887939

>>42887808
Yeah but you need a very specific setup to accomplish that in VS because it can handle way more shit on-screen at once due to the smaller sprites. It becomes easy but the amount of shit you have to do to make it easy is pretty crazy.

>> No.42888131

Wake me up when koyo unlock stage 2 hard

>> No.42888517
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42888517

See these profits? It's the power of Doog with greedy stamp, haste and without Chatto. With Chatto I think I would go higher. If you want to make money you will need many projectiles and piercing projectiles
>IRyS
>Ame
>Mumei
>Roboco
>Korone
They are the best in my theory because either their weapons hit multiple times or have piercing. Go for it and call dibs on Halu as soon as possible, if you can handle the heat called Stage 2 Hard go for it and pray for everything to align, Roboco and Korone are more of Skill Solution so learn to play with them. This was Stage 2 Normal so you can have an idea on how much money you can make.

>> No.42888585

>>42887124
is there any notable meme about her yet?

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>>42888517
I got this with Irys on endless mode stage 1. Probably could do better, but had Halu, chatto and greed.

>> No.42888606

FUCK I WAS AT THE SMOL AME FIGHT ON THE NOT MOVING CHALLENGE AND I DIED. HAD REVIVES AND EVERYTHING.

>> No.42888817

>>42887009
Broken Dreams is just that good with Aqua because it synergizes with everything her kit has. Combine it with Bibi Hat, probably the item that only works well with her and her inherent 1.3x multiplier to Crit Damage and nothing could even stand appearing on your screen.

>> No.42888987

>>42870509
Endless mode IRyS, I use stage 1 hard
Get greed stamp, solo weapon only max out attack rate but minimize extra damage, halu is great for that purpose and try to get piggy bank too
400k in 30 minutes ezy

>> No.42889027

I just got the 10K damage achivement with Korone and I have no fucking idea how I did it. I was just screwing around and suddenly it clicked on

>> No.42889062

>>42888517
Heard some anon said that the coins multiplier for Stage 2 Hard isn't working though, so for now it's probably the best to just farm at Stage 1 Hard.

>> No.42889088

>>42884179
Did Yubi stacks fall from 30 to 0 on previous patch? If true, that's a big buff because it falls 10 every time you run out of time.

>> No.42889134

>>42888589
>not even 150k base coins

>> No.42889209

>>42889134
Enough for what I wanted, either way.

>> No.42889212

>>42889027
I got it Ayame while testing out her gameplay, was pretty funny.

>> No.42889497

>>42889212
Has me thinking the burst damage of Snowflower is all counted at once in a single shot and maybe with Rapdog going around it just got enough things at one time to edge over. Its the only thing I can think of since Im playing Korone and wasent really building damage

Snowflower Rapdog Ringfit EN Curse Book
Halu Limiter Glasses Milk GWS Breastplate

>> No.42889509

Koyori is surprisingly pleasant to watch

>> No.42889684
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How far have you guys gone on upgrades? I could go for more had I didn't try to upgrade every weapons up to the same levels. Kaela's item + credit card is OP early to late game without relying on exp. I could +7 all my weapons, and +12 on just one weapon (more if i knew what enchanting was)

>> No.42889755

marine holocure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAZSZNq0ePA

>> No.42889768
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make money by walking

>> No.42889797

make way for the best holocure player in hololive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAZSZNq0ePA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAZSZNq0ePA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAZSZNq0ePA

>> No.42889846

>>42888585
Not much to be honest but her mayonnaise could definitely be an item or stamp

>> No.42889859

>>42889768
>138 gold in 7 seconds
>20 gold in 1 second
>1200 gold in 1 minute
>36000 in 30 minutes
You could earn 3x that with irys

>> No.42889941

all the new character I tried so far are pretty good, and even better than most of the myth line up.
maybe only matsuri feels a little weak and subaru if they nerfed her invincibility

>> No.42889956

>>42889859
>36000
Equip with some homing weapons, plus superchatto time + greed stamp on talent with homing weapon and speed then you could earn more than that theoretically

>> No.42890021

>>42889859
This was without Halu

>> No.42890033

>>42889797
did she cheat? lmao
not that i think it's bad, i actually thing it's cute lol

>> No.42890047

Has Koyori reacted to Laplus's shackles yet?

>> No.42890113

>>42889846
that's not remarkable enough though. if there's ever a koyo reference that's gonna get added, it's going to be her potions

>> No.42890139

>>42889768
>>42889859
Not to mention that picking up Greed on a random character and playing normally will usually bring in around that much.

>> No.42890183

>>42872093
How do I get enemies to spawn so fast?
It doesn't seem to matter how fast I kill, the enemies just won't spawn fast enough to get anywhere near 4:XX numbers.

>> No.42890240

>>42889846
other than /mayo/ I don't even know why she's associated with mayonaise

>> No.42890317

>>42890240
it's just her favorite thing. you can't just add any holomem's favorite shit and call it a reference

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>>42889859
it was fun while it lasted

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>>42890240
Not only is it in her intro song, but she told us on debut.

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Man, Aki solo weapon H2 was pretty fun!
Nodoka even managed to withstand my load, probably because I had to blow it on A-chan and Miko but still
Also man, my stamp selection was fucking garbage

>> No.42890826

how the fuck do I clear office (hard). After 10 minute everything is so hard to kill, and the mob so fast I'm always running away and can't collect exp

>> No.42890855

>have like 10 anvil drops in a single run
>decide to take Kaela's bandana
>literally zero anvils dropped

>> No.42891109

>>42890826
resort to cheating like most of the people here with single weap/solo stamp

>> No.42891233

>>42891109
i've cleared it with collabs but i already had max upgrades so idk if that made it easier

>> No.42891261

>>42890826
Ame with shiraken stamp and lots of projectile weapon did it for me.

>> No.42891315

are stamp over powered?

>> No.42891336

>>42891315
yes, especially doot doot

>> No.42891481

>>42890033
She did? How?

>> No.42891706

marine just got 3 supa items. lucklet bros...

>> No.42891752

>>42891109
>resort to cheating
Using game mechanics is cheating now? Not to mention, aside from maybe Mumei, no one clears easier with 1 weapon than with collabs

>> No.42891815

Guys I'm shit. Need help with playing Calli.

>> No.42891934

>>42891706
Kay Yu rigged it for her

>> No.42891937

>get axe and bucket with 15% size bonus both.
>get super milk
>Micomet covers the entire screen

> Put the controller down and go do something else despite being in a halu 5 run.

>> No.42892043

How does enchant work? Do they randomly give 2 enchantments or you need to roll for 2 enchants? Mine is usually one. I thought upgrades give the weapons more enchantment slots.

>> No.42892046

Someone make the next thread

>> No.42892084

>>42856449
Marin freaked out at the idea of mixing wamy water with yagoo tear

>> No.42892123

>>42892043
>Every weapon got 1 slot
>You can either get it enchanted from the start or re/enchant it at anvil
>Collabs get enchants of both base weapons
That's it

>> No.42892211

>>42892123
What about when a weapon has 2 enchant slots? How does that happen?

>> No.42892267

Wait, you can gacha the same outfit more than once?
Why
>>42892211
A collab made from 2 enchanted weapons inherits both enchantments, and rerolling will change both of them.

>> No.42892277

>>42892211
Please re-read the third line

>> No.42892313

I enchanted a weapon but didn't get the achievement

>> No.42892508

>>42892277
Well I dont understand the third line at first seeing how some of my collabs only had one enchants, but I assume that if you combine both weapons that has an enchant into a collab weapon, you'll be getting 2 enchants like this guy said. I see I see

>> No.42892653

Why isn't Marine using her super? Is she retarded?

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>>42884347
bicth

>> No.42892963

>>42889797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTDTnJVoDWI

>> No.42893007

>>42892313
enhancing not enchanting

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>>42892938

>> No.42893198

Marine lost to Hachaama with 4 collabs...

>> No.42893213
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>>42893007
Maybe he was playing minecraft

>> No.42893279

>>42893198
Cause she had zero survivability besides Nurse Horns

>> No.42893306

Any bakers?

>> No.42893404

J*U
did koyo beat stage 2 hard?

>> No.42893420

>>42893279
Who needs survivability when you can dodge? Isn't she a Touhou player?

>> No.42893694

>>42890741
I would call her Udon

>> No.42893736

Who are the most broken characters? Who are the weakest?

>> No.42893781

>>42870912
>if you are asking about the couch potato achievement anyone can do it.
I just did couch potato (with Sana) and this seems wildly incorrect. You can't get stamps, you can't get collabs, you need a way to collect XP or you'll fall behind, and you need a way to not die to the 19 minute rush. Sana can do it because her special gives her invul so you can stack all the defensive items and chain it with piman and it collects XP as well. If you can get it with other characters I'd be impressed but the combination of restrictions make it seem outright impossible for most characters even with full upgrades.

>> No.42893998

>Don't pay attention and just pick whatever good enchanted weapon drops
>End up with no directed damage collabs
>24:00 into Stage 2 (Hard)
>Get flooded by enemies

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