Elira Apologizes

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Do you forgive her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488121
No.

[Anonymous No.]

No

[Anonymous No.]

nope. already unfollowed everywhere. there are just too many vtubers now, and new ones debuting all the time.
literally no excuses for lingering on whores, crazies, cold bitches, etc

[Anonymous No.]

I can't sorry

[Anonymous No.]

Nope, she let the truth slip. No apology can take that back.

[Anonymous No.]

Qrd?

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>>42488237
whore bitches and whines

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lol no, she's already revealed her true colors, this is merely cope from the backlash that is ensuing.
these soulless fucks have no remorse, she's just panicking at the thought that she has damaged her cash cow

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>>42488121
Fuck no. Once a nijiwhore, always a nijiwhore.

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>>42488121
After she Naked Dogeza

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No one replying on this thread has ever been subscribed to Elira.

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>>42488121
Lol why, isn't she hailed as a goddess by elirafag just yesterday praise her like some being better than selen. Seem like karma strike her.

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>she wants to be treated as a person and not an object
>but we are NOT friends
>also i love you guys so much like you are my child or something

nah man, she fucked it up

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>>42488345
ESL-chama... Now we know who's been replying in all these threads...

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>>42488340
Seethe

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>needs a random chatter to point out that if someone sends a creepy SC she should just mute/ban that person instead of having a fucking menhera breakdown and coming up with new rules and ranting about how depressed she is
Wtf is wrong with Nijis? It's like a company of Mori's. Except at least the SC Mori sperged over was a personal insult rather than a fucking 5$ horny SC

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how will she apologize for her incoming Luca offpako lmao

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>>42488237
She ate a burger on stream. Craziest shit I've ever seen ever.

[Anonymous No.]

We truly live in a society

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>>42488440
I liked her NTR doujin

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488416
>coincidentally expired today
Nice inspect element

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>>42488121
No, I'm tired of vtubers behaving like that

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>>42488464
>muh inspect element
Nice cope fagelira

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>>42488460
Which one?

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>>42488492
>fagelira
way to give yourself away

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>>42488535
>no argument
I accept your defeat

[Anonymous No.]

Picture this.
You're making mad bank to sit with your anime avatar and pretending to give a shit about your fans.
You see a supachat with a comment attached that you don't like
Do you -
A. Ignore it, comfortable in the fact that you have a nice cushy easy life, keeping the kayfabe up while your fans are none the wiser and enjoying their ignorance in bliss.
B. Tell them how you really feel and how they're all random nobodies that you see as nothing more than money, not friends, just numbers.

These western thots are fucking pathetic. How do they consistently fuck this shit up?
Just be fucking quiet and maintain the kayfabe, it isn't difficult.

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>>42488121
>Sperg out over one or two problem chatters >Give your whole fanbase the we are not friends know your place talk
>Go on a break
Oof, at least she apologised I guess but really what the fuck was she thinking?

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>>42488570
Neither of those are what happened though. Elira just said that she isn't friends with you on a personal level but she loves her chat as a collective and wants them to stop sending weird messages. She never said any of that shit about seeing anyone as nothing more than money. Shes one of the least money grubbing vtubers out there. In this very stream she was telling people not to send superchats to do trades with her in Pokemon because she wants everyone to have a chance and not have it be determined by money.

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>>42488121
>Thank you again Trash Taste

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We did it Nijibros, catalog bros are invested and it's too late for them to stop caring!
>>42482509

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>>42488492
>fagelira
dumbass you outed yourself

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>>42488797
But all we see here replying are nijibros. We need them to care more.

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>>42488121
She has outed herself as a retard. There is nothing to forgive. I just think less of her as a streamer.

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>>42488535
>>42488937
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

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>>42484567
The Four Horsemen
can someone update the image

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>>42488121
Nah, she already showed us what she thinks of her fans and supporters. We are all as bad as that Alex P. faggot in her eyes. I'm just going to become a holobronie and watch Koyori and no one else.

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>>42488121
In a comment to a comment not even sticky. Also what is damage control.

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>>42488121
A lot of people still think she took it too far acting like her entire audience is just as bad as that one guy, which is going to leave a mark for sure.

Although I mean, hey, do consider that more than a few chuubas facing a similar situation just double down and go double-retard and at least, at least, she isn't doing that. So kudos for her not taking everything to the extreme and going from "ah you're so great my fans you're all my friends" one day to "none of you are my friends you'll never be my friends fuck you if you even imply you know me" the next. Even though she did in fact snap like that for a few minutes it was just that one dude she should have been mad at and she realizes it. But yes mask off etc. Sucks.

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>Stop seeing me as a sex object to coom to!!
>But also, stop seeing me as a friend, you guys are not my friends!!
what she really wants to say is "YOU ARE MY ATMS, SHUT UP AND GIVE ME MONEY"

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>>42488456
That guy was doing the same thing to Reine in her stream earlier. This is why you laugh it off or ignore it.

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>>42489304
This but unironically

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>>42489304
Well
The Holobegging I've seen for her in the catalog sometimes makes sense now, at least

[Anonymous No.]

>Watch Elira's stream
>Constantly talking about pussy, constantly talking about drinking shots off of another girls pussy, constantly talking about what a wild party girl she was
>"Don't sexualize me you fucking creeps"
>Constantly talks about how she 'loves us', acts parasocial towards us
>"We're not friends, we'll never be friends"

The fuck does that leave then?
Not friends, not fap bait, so what? You want my money and that's all? What the fuck else is left lmao?

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Come home, Familira.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0EBjgCHp7U&t=75s

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>>42488688
>In this very stream she was telling people not to send superchats
So she turned them off then, right?

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>>42488121
nothing to forgive, she did nothing wrong

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>>42488237
She asked people to stop sending her sexual SCs and went against people's delusions by telling them the truth, that you are not her friend just because you watch her stream or give her money

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>>42489500
She wasn't telling people not to send superchats in general just not to try use them to buy trades with her. Sending room codes in superchat would make her tons of money if she encouraged it. But instead she picks randomly from grey names and members trying to be as fair as possible and let people participate regardless of if they have money or not.

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>>42489424
>>Constantly talking about pussy, constantly talking about drinking shots off of another girls pussy, constantly talking about what a wild party girl she was
you don't watch her

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>>42489688
You've been saying that to people for 3 threads now you pathetic fuck.
Cope about it.

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>>42489500
this is such a dishonest question and you know it. turning it off would stop ALL supas, not ones just trying to coerce a trade. don’t be that pseudo-intellectual trying to stretch the truth to assume a false narrative just because you have a hate boner for women

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>>42488456
>>42489331
https://youtube.com/shorts/QRI9hRZQ-pY?feature=share

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>>42489567
She got creeped out by a SC far more tame than the shit she spews and went bridge burner.

[Anonymous No.]

>finana tells parasocial fucks to fuck off
>elira tells parasocial fucks to fuck off
You know what that means, right? It's Pomu's turn next.

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>>42489765
Elira didn't tell anyone to fuck off? She asked people to stop sending weird superchats.

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>>42489847
That superchat was tame as fuck. If she can't handle it she shouldn't be a streamer.

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>>42489847
You're not her friend, creep.

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>>42488121
>elira taking a week off the same time as Luca
>Raids Luca's stream something she never does
>suddenly trying to set boundaries with her chat
>Luca winks at his chat and hints that "next week will be fun"
Luca and Elira offcollab incoming

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>>42488121
I've been away, can I get a QRD? Did NijiEN fuck up again with another yab?

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>>42489740
>>42489878
>NO YOU HAVE TO LET ME TALK ABOUT HOW I WANT TO DO SEX TO YOU
keep it in your pants retard

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>>42488121
That’s hardly an apology

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>I love you guys soooo much!
>EWW stop acting like you're my friend, you parasocial dweeb. I don't know you!
kek

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>>42489974
Read the thread bozo; its already been explained a couple times and there's less than 100 posts

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Compared to Kronii's "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" and making the company issue a statement, Finana's "parasocial fucks" or Lia's live cucking and then suicide/pity baiting I'd say the bar is very low but she handled this a lot better than others.

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>>42490008
Keep it in your wallet, you mean.

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>>42489974
Girl wants her fans to stop sending her sexual messages and breaks their delusions
/vt/ of course has a shit fit because hornyposting and rage is all they know

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>>42489974
>random sends horny/creepy 5$ SC
>Elira goes on a menhera rant about how she doesn't want to be seen as a sex object which somehow leads into telling her chat they are not her friends

[Anonymous No.]

Why should I forgive her? She's not my friend. She can dine on feces for all I care.

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>>42490049
sure
not that you ever gave her any money to begin with

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>>42489567
holy based

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>>42488121
Shouldnt have let the mask slip... just another Finana

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>>42490067
You never watched her in the first place

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>>42489424
Lol she also lived with football players
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISRI0ASFk3A

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>>42490190
Not an argument cucklira

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>>42490010
Entitled western woman that want to have their cake and eat it too.
They'll love you until you do something they don't like, then they pull out the "YOU DONT KNOW ME YOU PARASOCIAL FUCK!! YOURE NOTHING TO ME YOU CREEPY INCELS!!".

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>>42489959
Imagine being this much of a shitposter that you spend your time spamming your NTR fanfics about vtubers you don't like on 4chan.

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>>42490201
They 100% ran a train on her multiple times kek

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>>42490332
Imagine missing the point of the entire board.
>>42490388
Hot

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>>42490331
Elira didn't do that though. She explained that her chat isn't friends with her on a personal level while making it clear that she loves them as a collective while asking that people respected her boundaries and didn't send superchats that go too far. She didn't insult anyone at all she was very being and polite about it all, neither was she screaming like your post implies and neither did she specifically target anyone parasocial.

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>>42488237
She discriminated her viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

this kind of drama has happened before and will happen again. On the off chance you're a chuuba reading /vt/ looking to torment yourself with the mad ramblings of schizos who likely don't even watch you, I'll give you the easiest advise for handling shit superchats/donations:

if the superchat is inappropriate to read out (eg. politics bait, mood killer or painfully parasocial) just read out the donators name and thank them.

if the superchat is outright hostile, offensive or creepy just outright skip it.

Resist the temptation to go off on shit superchats; it just gives them the attention they thrive on, skipping or just thanking them without addressing the message completely denies them that satisfaction without dragging down the mood you've built up.

Now stop reading catalogue threads you retard.

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>>42490052
You can literally just ban they guy and keep his money. No need for a menhera rant. She just showed what an unprofessional bitter cunt she is.

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>>42490534
"You as a whole matter to me, but each and every single one of you don't matter"

She was upset at one person but decided to call out everyone else too

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>>42488121
Elira is slipping now too.

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>>42490595
While she could have dealt with it better she doesn't sound bitter at all? If anything she sounded sad that reluctant about feeling she needed to say it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42489304
Then whtas with the whole bestie schtick

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>>42490388
Almost certainly.
Actually the only Niji girl I know who even claims to be a virgin is Enna, who is also a notorious liar.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is it always the Nijis that sperg out like this?

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>>42489567
Oh no no goslingfaggots, look away

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>>42490744
Kronii and Mori are nijis?

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>>42490643
She didn't say you don't matter to her at all as individuals though did she. She said you're not her friend. She doesn't know you. Even if she's interacted with you online she still doesn't actually know you besides an avatar on a screen and a few words of text. That's not a friend no matter how you look at it.

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>>42490586
It's really that easy

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>>42490819
Kronii is a misplaced Niji, not sure about where Mori belongs in the grand scheme.

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>This is all a lie, you little parasocial fuck. I'm not your parent, just a stranger who wants your mom's money.

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>>42490819
Mori basically is one in spirit (or more accurately a vWhorejo)
Kronii is a backstabbing whore but to be fair she never outright shat on her fans

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>>42490643
Are you personally friends with 3000 faceless people that you only know as lines of text on a screen?

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>>42490049
Oh no, what is she going to do without your 50 ARS...

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>>42490743
she technically is
anytime she gets a guy he would rather cum on her feet than anywhere else

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>ironic /vt/ schizos flood a vtuber's chat and supas with filth
>vtuber tries to address the problem
>/vt/ schizos fly into a seething rage and try to escalate the """yab"""
Nothing to forgive, she's not the problem here.

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>>42491043
OP's image shows Elira recognizing she took the worst out of at least 100 other options.
This is a yab, her words.

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>>42488121
who?

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She did literally nothing wrong.

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>>42490388
Did you even listen to the video? She was scared of how buff they were and she just wanted to play mobile games..

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>>42491113
This will literally be forgotten in a week, it's nothing

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>>42490944
Then who becouse there is no way its only mori who backstab her fans

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>>42491113
>realizing it could have been dealt with better = muh yab
false equivalence

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>>42491113
She seems to have handled it just fine. Her words. The real problem is le heckin ebin ironic schizos like you, and the inhuman subculture you cultivate on this shithole of a containment board. It's an injustice against the world that no one ever managed to bully you to suicide. Please kys asap.

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>>42489304
Just the truth.

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>>42490948
Yes

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>>42491269
Just enjoying the rollercoaster, man, I mean no harm. She already bounced back just fine.

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>>42491185
DYRBI??
Come on man..

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>>42491303
Besides the last part to be honest. Elira is one of the least money making focused vtubers I have ever followed. She's always turning down opportunities to squeeze more money out of her fanbase and do the morally respectable thing instead.

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>>42491269
Don't be so rude. I only just arrived to post the santa claus thing earlier.
I did know her fanbase was like this, wtf...

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>>42491043
Weren't the people who caused this a paypig she doesn't want to ban and a 6 month member? Where are you getting /vt/ schizos flooding her chat from?

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>>42491411
>Where are you getting /vt/ schizos flooding her chat from?
the same place all the people sperging about it are getting the shit they're saying

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>>42489468
>>42489735
>>42490201
Does anyone have the actual superchat/actual reaction clip instead of random Elira ones or Holo ones?

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>>42488456
What was the context to this SC? Valentine's day approaching or something?

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>>42490643
That's awfully incriminating as to her genuine feelings on the matter, provided she said it in the first place.

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>>42490948
Up to a certain level, yes. I don't know about you but I've always had trouble making friends IRL because of how I act, even now as an adult too. In the internet, I have the comfort of not needing to feel anxious since I can always drop the convo and I don't have to see the person face to face.

If an anon in any non-shitposting general had problems like "I feel like dropping my oshi" "Are there similar streamers like x" "I want to KMS" I'd reply genuinely, because I care enough just enough, even if they're just strangers.

Now amplify that feeling by a 100 with VChubas. These people give me genuine happiness when I see them Sing, talk, interact with chat. Watching streamers is inherently parasocial, and I know that. So telling someone you're not my friend even if just a little. I already KNOW we're not and can't be friends.

I just want my keyfabe of cute girl doing cute things while interacting with her fans. I don't think that was too much to ask. I didn't want to be called out like that.

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>>42491584
Nah bruh, I was just drunkposting and accidentally killed my favorite chuubas career lmao

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>>42488121
This is literally nothing burger, unlike Millie.
But NijiEN just got one less viewers.

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>>42491677
Of course its the seaposter shitting on the pagpag eater

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>>42491666
this isn't killing anything but my brain cells having to see how retarded this shithole board is

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>>42488121
better, but woman moment in the first place.

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>>42488121
No. She may have posted a by the numbers "apology", but the mask already fell off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42490860
She's a woman she can't help it.

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>>42491734
Finana's rant against the parasocial fucks dropped her from Elira-tier views to the bottom of NijiEN

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>>42490939
Santa why.....

[Anonymous No.]

People keep getting surprised by things that are obvious. All of her friends are people like Enna and Millie and she only pretends to be seiso, then people are shocked by this.

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>>42491774
And this is significantly less of an issue than that was

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>>42490939
kek

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>>42488418
Anything bad in hololive goes nowhere because so many of them are wallflowers who go on long breaks. Nijien streams a lot and they all amplify each other's menhera.

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>>42491807
It's the exact same issue. Hell, it's probably worse. At least Finana didn't directly call out and berate, and distance herself from her own fans on stream. Finana's yab was a tweet about Vox's fans.

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>>42489974
>small superchat incident
>bait thread emerges
>/NijiEN/ defense force (probably including the livers themselves) flood the thread making it hit bump limit

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>>42491666
Based

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>>42491411
>/vt/ ex-holofans who flocked to Lazulight in the early days
>bait thread regulars under the impression that Elira is "the good one" out of NijiEN
>spergs who actually think it's cool to act like a schizo because they learned it at the ironic schizo central of EN vtubing
These retards don't just appear out of nowhere, it's very much a /here/ problem. They behave just as you'd expect an ironic /vt/ schizo to behave in public. Shit behavior and containment breaking is enabled here. You just gotta look at the seething spergout in the catalog right now, and how the locals think this is acceptable, even admirable, conduct.

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>>42488570
>These western thots are fucking pathetic. How do they consistently fuck this shit up?
It's unironically a cultural difference. In japan you can't talk shit even if you'd like to. Hierarchy and public face are a matter of life and death. Many japanese of course find this stifling, but go along with it. In the West you are taught that even if you work 1 hour a week typing 1 line of code and make 250k for no reason you should still be ungrateful because the mindset is to be a fucking dick and demand more, which only really makes sense if you're a wagie making no money for hard work.

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>>42491774
I wish numberniggers actually made charts to keep track of avg CCV for things like this

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>>42491970
Go back

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>>42491879
Elira didn't insult or berate anyone, didn't swear at them, or anything like that
she told them in a calm manner that she's not comfortable with sexual comments and doesn't want to be seen as an object, and told us that while we are not as individuals her friends she still cares about us as a group
as opposed to "L + Ratio parasocial fucks"

[Anonymous No.]

This is the most Elira talk I've seen on here. Why watch the lesser dragon sister?

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>>42490146
Basically yeah. Not sure how it takes you guys this long to realize how fake she is.

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kaela would read that same comment,
then say "Get some help" and move on.
or she would say "thank you for the super chat" and not acknowledge the message.
i think these vtubers have been streaming for far too long to not know how to handle messages like these.
these same motherfuckers that play that shit Needy Overdose whatever the fuck, acting like a groomer mod removing comments and somehow they can't replicate that.

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>>42488121
that sounds much more like a non-apology to me

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>>42491975
There was no significant effect on Finana's CCV at all from that incident. That was in May on this chat.

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>>42491621
>I just want my keyfabe of cute girl doing cute things while interacting with her fans. I don't think that was too much to ask. I didn't want to be called out like that.
The fact people have a problem with this statement just shows why EN was a mistake. It never should have been accessible to disgusting twitchfags who think a streamer should just be a fucking asshole like asmongold and still somehow get paid. And the fact that anon chooses to not be a doormat and says "fuck that" and gets hate shows we are literally being bombarded by the lowest caste of people in society who are mostly upset because we don't deal with vtubers like Bao the Whale who hate their chat and demand free money and shit like that, we just drop them.

[Anonymous No.]

catalogsisters are you feasting

[Anonymous No.]

>>42492108
If anything it seems like xsoleil killed Finana.

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>>42488121
What is it with Nijis and their frail egos?
One person says something dumb and somehow they pop off on the collective when they did nothing wrong.
Actual idiots. Sick of hearing half assed apologies when Nijis are doing stupid shit which they shouldn't do in the first place.

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>>42489567
based, but she will soon have to go to a normal job

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>>42491970
You really have /vt/ living as rent free in your head as niji does themselves lately huh. All that shit you are saying about the catalog is not relevant to what I was saying, which is that it was her own members and a long time paypig who has been a problem for a while that set her off and not random /vt/ greynames like you implied in your post.

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>>42488121
What happened I forgor

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>>42491774
The valoguard drama and gacha spam is what killed her, the parasocial fucks comment is and always will be some stupid shit taken out of context

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>>42491975
the trick is this faggot isn't really a numberfag, if he did track the numbers he'd see the vast majority of these incidents don't do shit to harm their average viewers. People have been pointing this out for years.

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>>42490894
Mori belongs to Vshoujo considering how close they got ties to some of her besties.

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>>42492410
she's going to see absolutely no difference in viewership from this

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>>42492427
None of that dramatically reduced her viewership though
>>42492108
It's only this last month she's really been struggling compared to how she was pre any dramas.

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>>42492445
Well "coincidentally" or not, her viewership did drop, just like Ollie's and Kronii's did. But it would be nice to nbe able to see the trend and how fast it happened.

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>>42492422
You ignored the implications in my post. It's relevant in that said members and long-time paypigs are our local /vt/ schizos, picking up their behaviours from here and not exporting them outside the board.

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>>42492482
i guess, but there will be a significant difference in sc

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>>42492422
You ignored the implications in my post. It's relevant in that said members and long-time paypigs are our local /vt/ schizos, picking up their behaviours from here and exporting them outside the board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488121
No. Not even meming. Her behavior was disgusting and honestly typical of people who think everything should be handed to them on a silver plate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42492031
You mean why watch Selen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42492571
>please stop giving me money to treat me like a sex object
>expecting silver platter handouts

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>>42491734
Then why are you here, people are here to have fun by shitting on other peoples chuubas then get on with their day.
>>42492488
>None of that dramatically reduced her viewership though
??? She literally Quartered her SCs and killed off her biggest paypigs the very month the valoguard blew up. If you were actually a fan of her you'd know that.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have a timestamp?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488237
Mask off moment.

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>>42492566
I think blaming /vt/ for brainwashing every coomer who sends a horny superchat or every paypig that gets too possessive is frankly ridiculous but okay. There are plenty of types like that who are 100% homegrown in a chuubas own community.

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>>42492674
because I'm at work and have nothing better to do

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>>42492674
I didn't say anything about superchat.

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>>42492689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=25815&v=fsgIrvGgtGM

I can't look at her the same now

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>>42492707
>There are plenty of types like that who are 100% homegrown in a chuubas own community
Granted, but I doubt one like that would've blown up the catalog over a vtuber practically no one here even knows. I wouldn't be surprised if the infamous Alex P himself was behind some of these threads.

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It's this old topic all over again. The girls know that a lot of the vt appeal is based on the sexualization of their character, the parasocial fans and a lot of loneliness. There are a lot of type of audience out there, of course the worst one are schizos and mentally deranged people who send certain types of superchats, but this one doesn't seem so offensive in my opinion. I think that by breaking this suspension of disbelief, she is crushing part of the illusion which is behind this line of work, of course fans are not friends with the streamer, but I'm pretty sure tha vast majority of people who watch this streamers are lonely fucks with no social life, so you can understand where is the problem. You are undermining the very foundation that started this business and in doing so you pass as the bad guy. Of course you can't let people do what they want, but in this situations imo the best thing to do is always ignore or ban them as she said. Making a fuss out of it is not the answer because you are crushing people's (false) hopes and dreams, just like in wrestiling you need to always stay in character. Also you have tools to deal with this like timeouts, ban hammer or you could just ignore, also moderators do exist. Ultimately I think this is a bit of a fall from grace by Elira, it was a bit unprofessional. I guess this is what happens when you spend too much time with Enna and her suspended friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488456
This was it? If i were on her shoes i would responded "dont beg for drawings, go and actually commission an artist for it"

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488237
A paypig keeps superchatting her sexual comments so instead of banning her Atm from chat she told chat they're all fucking chuds and need to pony up more cash. Millie and Elira then spent the last few hours on /vt/ calling everyone who disagrees an incel and they need to get female friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42442822
>>42442822
Kek. Well this didn't go so well, did it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42492806
Been there since day 1 and I can. Nothing at all that she said there shocked me. It was out of character for her to let something like that get to her. But I guess I'm just not delusional enough to think I'm personally friends with a streamer when I'm one of 3k+ people regularly showing up to watch her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42492806
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93mIZoFFa04
>it's okay for me to be a simp. But not you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42492108
>There was no significant effect on Finana's CCV at all from that incident. That was in May on this chat.
I am not paying attention to whatever you lads are talking about so I don't know if the following chart
>pic related, 60 days average and median
will advance your point or refute it. Here it is, nonetheless.

Finana had a massive summer (for her modest proportions) but ended up reclining to her career low point in the end of January 2023.
She seems to have bounced back with these eventful few weeks but it was a short term boost and she's seems to be going right back to the 1k line.

Notice that the 60 days average "smooths" out any outliers, so whatever you guys are talking about might have had a localized effect, but the chart doesn't seem to show any permanent one.
Holos and Nijis rarely suffer long term consequences for minor drama.
The one thing that determine their numbers in any period of time is
>their choice of content

Pretty much
>stream popular stuff
>people will show up and watch
alternatively
>stream shit nobody cares about
>only the most rabid members of your audience will show up because they're there for your company and to show loyalty and support, and not for your content
It's not rocket science

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe if Finana did more ASMR a brother wouldn't have to try to bust a nut in Elira's superchats

[Anonymous No.]

Elira and her Kliq will find some way to blame vt for her behaviour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493016
your chart is just showing pretty much the same thing, just looks more fancy

[Anonymous No.]

>>42492806
Thanks for the timestamp, just renewed my membership. Confirmed least groomable chuuba

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493138
Having a continuous measurement instead of taking one sample every end of month gives a better picture.
It's the same of course, considering it comes from the same dataset and the only difference is the interval and number of samples

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493188
Didn't ask

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493131
How does Elira "I don't want to be objectified" Pendora copes with being in the same corp as Vox and Finana

Hell, she was even in the lesbian offpako stream just a moment ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>42492861
Venting about things like that in this way actually does the opposite of what you said and reinforces the parasocialism. After all, only friends will tell people their real feelings about things, right?

The real approach to this is to be firm and professional, and set boundaries. Exposing emotion with respect to the topic is a fuck up, and not because it's leaving you vulnerable to trolling, but because it's playing even more into parasocial behaviors

[Anonymous No.]

>>42492806
>kitties are so cute
>you guys are creepy stop sexualizing me even though I've talked about my tittie sweat before
It's a shame, she went off the rails at some point.

[Anonymous No.]

This place is so fucking desperate for scandals lol. Nobody outside of here will remember this happened by Thursday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493354
a person talking about themselves is not an invitation for you to start making awkward and creepy sex comments

[Anonymous No.]

>>42492923
This is the 10th time you've posted this across 4 threads and your damage control isn't any less obvious.
>one guy fucks up
>don't bonk him because he's a paying customer, so shit on everyone else instead

[Anonymous No.]

Dumb bitch letting the mask slip off

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493392
Yeah, cause bootlickers are too stupid to notice when their Oshi is being a cunt to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493394
>>42493392
You literally post the same shit over and over, are you just fishing for (You)s or do you not realize it's obvious it's a small group making the same "Y-YOU FUKKIN INCELS MAKE ME SICK" bullshit posts over and over again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493188
Hey, me too anon!
Isn't elira great?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493566
>>42493462
Stale and boring. This is your fifth circle.

[Anonymous No.]

Welp, you saw a glimpse of the real Elira. Should not be a surprise considering her bandwagon of bitches are led by Millie and Enna.

[Anonymous No.]

A chuuba apologizing like this is the worst thing she can do according to this board because she's recognizing she fucked up, bringing more attention to the issue and schizos will smell blood
She should own it up since she literally said she doesn't try think of chat as friends and never will, anything else is not her true feelings

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if there was ever any streamer that "declined" because of negative comments towards unicorns? Seems like most of the time /vt/ becomes mad for a bit and after a few days it dies down with little to no impact.

[Anonymous No.]

why bother, I'm sure she'll be involved in the next big "own the haters" event and embarrass everyone who still supports her

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493799
Mori and Kronii 100% did
Ame surprisingly still maintains around the same viewership but doesn't grow anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>42491185

[Anonymous No.]

>>42492153
Damn right I am

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493566
I'm not part of your small group, but I've come to agree with them that this is not a place inhabited by good people. It's become a bit of a self-esteem boost, because I can go to virtually any thread in the catalog and be happy I'll never be as bad as the posters there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42492153
After Millie's feast last week this is kind of a paltry
meal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493799
Kronii, easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493799
mori, kroni, kobo

[Anonymous No.]

>>42490743
Honestly not sure on Enna. She's such a massive piece of shit I kinda believe that nobody would want to touch her even just for a one night stand

[Anonymous No.]

>>42494005
I am sure not even a dog would wanna hit that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493596
Your ARS will be welcome

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493783
This, apologizing for this kind of stuff just feels fake
Own it up

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493462
That's the first time I've posted that in any thread.

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>>42492861
It must be a bit jarring to realize that most of your income (superchats/merch sales/concert or meet and greet tickets) comes from a handful of particularly vulnerable mentally ill people like Alex P. Maybe she wants to be more of an entertainer and act less exploitative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42494203
Oh its easy, she just needs to turn superchat off then

[Anonymous No.]

>>42492878
>an incel and they need to get female friends.
If they had female friends they wouldn't be throwing money at whores.
I have female friends and I rather spend money on activities and parties with them, than giving even a cent to an anime woman.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42494400
lol actual cuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>42494400
>I have female friends and I rather spend money on activities and parties with them
anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42494400
>I have female friends
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>42494446
If you party with sluts you might get to fuck sluts it's that easy bro.

>>42494110
Sure little buddy, sure.

>>42493687
>it's my fault if you choose to repost reposts of reposts
You're here forever, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488121
>Nijisanji
When will you nijifags learn that you are fooling yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493949
Sounds more like the posters live in your head rent free, millie. Regardless no one here is posting unhinged rrats, all of this is merely the truth and you can fucking deal with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493949
What's worse is exploiting mentally vulnerable and lonely people into giving you money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42491185
Anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488121
Only if she keeps playing jrpgs, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488121
There was nothing to apologize for, dramatrannies are just doing their thing

[Anonymous No.]

Why do Vtubers keep breaking their character? All they have to do is shut up and play a character for a group of lonely people for money. After they're done streaming they can do whatever the fuck they want. Is that really so hard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42495022
Well she apologized so that means she knows she Fucked up

[Anonymous No.]

>>42495065
Maybe not all vtubers want to act as surrogate girlsfriends for genetic deadends? Ever thought of that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42495065
ironically this breaks down the barrier between their real self and the vtuber persona

[Anonymous No.]

>>42494746
Every monetized vtuber ever. Also,
>moralizing on /vt/ of all places

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488121
the anguish over this makes me genuinely think some of you aren’t joking and are actually suffering from severe mental illness

[Anonymous No.]

>>42495126
Those are failed streamers who want the same benefits from being a vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42495126
Let the moderators handle those types of comments. There's zero need to go on big rants about those sort of things on your stream which people watch for escapism. Sure you can make comments about it, but you're an entertainer there to play a character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42495292
Yes? Where the fuck do you think you are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42495337
Rants are the only reason i like to watch twitch streams.
It's funny watching some loser streamer lose their shit and go full on meltdown about BACKSEATING when people were talking about the game and not backseating.

[Anonymous No.]

This board must have the highest amount of Twitter/Reddit users on the site.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42495400
so you’re just openly admitting to being a retard maybe I really should go back

[Anonymous No.]

>+20 IPs suddenly bump this shit thread up
How was your work day, SEAs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42495662
Yes redditor, go the fuck back

[Anonymous No.]

>>42495677
>Caring about IPs
>In an anonymous image board
Absolutely fucking cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>42495710
But I want to laugh at the funny ironic schizos and their deranged takes.
Maybe I'll even make a youtube compilation video about the worst/best ones and pull a good bit of dosh off it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42494446
>>42494505
>>42494538
You guys are right. I must abandon all the whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42495292
>fameliras
>not severely mentally ill parasocial schizos
RORU

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone explain why "parasocial" is an insult to me? Isn't the very concept of influencers like vloggers or youtubers dependent on parasocial relationships?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42496204
1) She's not your friend
2) She's not your girlfriend or wife either
3) She doesn't even know you exists

Get it through your thick skull, incel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42496204
it is not, but twitter think it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>42496259
All of those things are what make it parasocial tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>42496259
I disagree with all of your points.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42495749
>caring about anons caring about IPs
Holy cringe sperg

[Anonymous No.]

>>42490948
I’m friends with you anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42490948
I'm only up to 200 right now but I hope I make even more friends!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42496259
1: But we could be friends. What is wrong befriending someone?? Since when is wanting to be friends with people and getting along a bad thing?

2: True.

3: Chat and SCs exist, ergo, she knows we exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42496259
Go back to Twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>42495658
this board is specifically newfag central.
any anon that tells me "4ch lawless, I can say whatever I want without consequence kek lmao" outs themselves as a newfag
most boards have always had standards and rules, consistently backed and enforced by the regulars themselves.
if it weren't for the worthless, lazy fucking jannies, we'd be in a better spot comparatively to other otaku culture boards, but we're on the level of /v/ (another newfag central).

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488121
She's merciful just like me freal freal. But seriously, she should've just banned the fag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42496079
nah bro you keep paying for "social activities" where they fuck other guys. I'm sure they think of you as a really good friend. jk they cant believe they found an idiot like you

[Anonymous No.]

>>42497567
>Thinking I am spending money, paying for others
Roru
Rumao

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493987
Wtf did Kobo say to her unicorns?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42497971
some time after debut she started spamming valorant with jpstars, unicorns got a bit angry so she told them that such behaviour wouldn't be accepted, and she is now a 4k streamer

[Anonymous No.]

You hate to see it as necessary live streamer's attitude and fanbase collapsed

[Anonymous No.]

>>42497891
>I have female friends and I rather spend money on activities and parties with them, than giving even a cent to an anime woman.
Mmmmm

[Anonymous No.]

>>42496978
You aren't friends with females, unless you're gay, and only then its a maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42494400
>I have female friends and I rather spend money
>>42497891
>Thinking I am spending money, paying for others

lol I actually feel bad for you now, you must be in a bad way if you're coping this hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>42489730
>non agurment
Elira, go back

[Anonymous No.]

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PICTURE
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[Anonymous No.]

>>42491269
Elira watcher are subhumans asshole, so surprised

[Anonymous No.]

>>42499424
The 4th slot is already filled

[Anonymous No.]

>>42499938
Who

[Anonymous No.]

>>42499962
Lia

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488121
I just woke so Idk what happened but NEVER APOLOGIZE

[Anonymous No.]

>>42500000
Irrelevant 2views don't get to join the cool girls' club

[Anonymous No.]

>>42492806
oh, so it’s a nothingburger

[Anonymous No.]

>>42489567
sounds based

[Anonymous No.]

She thinks it's okay to lecture the group as a whole because she views them as a collective. We're not, permaban the bad apples and stop lecturing the rest of us who did nothing wrong. Sick of this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42500521
Chat is a collective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42500136
Finana is right there though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42490743
Millie, Enna, Scarle, Finana and Reimu all claim to be virgins

[Anonymous No.]

>>42500521
You are collectively not her boyfriend nor her friend

[Anonymous No.]

>>42502193
I am objectively both

[Anonymous No.]

Her backtracking on the truth makes me respect her less, so no time for me to cancel my membership and unsub. I grew respect she drew lines.

[Anonymous No.]

I know chat is full of annoying faggots, I've been in these chats for years. If I think the chuuba sees their entire chat as the worst of these idiots then I'm out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42501754
>reimu
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>42501754
>Millie
No.
>Enna
Yes.
>Scarle
FUCK no
>Finana
Yes.
>Reimu
She literally offkai'd with Ike and Vox in Europe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493799
Any controversy is good controversy if they continue streaming. Look at Enna, her numbers are quite good considering how she was doing a year ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42501754
For the record, Nina claimed that EVERYONE in Ethyria was a virgin. Take that how you will

[Anonymous No.]

>>42502734
Corporate anime models will never have sex. Voice actors who signed contracts to play as anime livestreamers have had all the sex ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42494005
>>42494047
Are you gay or something? Men would fuck anything as long as it's not fat.

[Anonymous No.]

Lmao what a washed up cunt. Used to watch her when nothing else was on but I'll be moving on now

[Anonymous No.]

>>42501754
>Scarle
Literally the only one i actually think is telling the truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42501754
How embarrassing..

[Anonymous No.]

>>42503274
This is because she's good at her job farming gachi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42503291
Compared to Enna and her obvious lies anyone would look like an actual virgin kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488121
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>42491580
>>42486965
its over blown if you actually watch it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42505066
Looks like she is being rightfully called out to react like this over one fucking comment. Very fragile ego, mask is off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493865
>>42493987
Mori has never addressed unicorns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42500000
Who?
Nevermind, I don't care

[Anonymous No.]

>>42493799
Never. Mori and Kronii declined at the same rete everyone else was declining thanks to membership gifting / merch culture.
Unicorns here will always argue that they are oh so important to a popular's chuba views and income.
But data shows that any 4view and above is getting more income from regular non-deranged fans and merch sales than anything these retards can ever amount to affect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42507636
I mean, all one has to notice is who gets the more projects out... is really not that hard
Unicorns don't exist at least on this side of the world. Irrelevant niggers that call themselves that or use that on others are just twitter tourist or shitposters.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, Elira might be a two faced bitch after all but I still really want to have sex with her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42501754
why do vtubers claim to hate parasocial people. but then say stuff like this? who do they think they're attracting by saying their a virgin?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488121
Why would she need forgiveness from people she "doesn't know?" KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>42503383
I'm sure you'll tell us how you know she's not. Would it be the voices in your head?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42500000
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42491185
well if that lets you life your life...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42491269
So this is what Elira preaches to you guys in her streams...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42492422
rejoice anon, you're probably talking to a niji liver themselves
probably Elira herself considering the seething

[Anonymous No.]

>>42496259
>1) She's not your friend
>2) She's not your girlfriend or wife either
>3) She doesn't even know you exists
great, then she shouldn't really have a problem with me objectifying her!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488121
Even her answer feels like a total bitch move

[Anonymous No.]

>>42508923
one of the easiest question here: for money and success. A lot of them know that the majority of the money in this sector come from that particular slice of audience which can't distinguish fake relationship from real ones, so the tactic is simple.

Just act like you endorse those kind of behaviors at first, so you gain a fanbase, sc and overall reputation. Almost everyone here is okay with the cute anime girl vibe and a lot of people has also mental problems and need to sexualize fictional characters, so you just go with the flow at first and make cash.

Then when you are in a stable position after, say one year from your debut you start to set bundaries and restrictions trying to educate your audience on how you want them to behave, Sure, you can lose few of them because you are changing, but you're already accomplished and unless you really fuck up you're get what you want. A perfect example of this is actually Enna, if you watched her at first you knew how she approached her chat, right now she openly admitted that she was faking it, but it's too late to have an actual backlash because her fanbase is well roundend. The only exception with her is that she gave up her facade pretty soon, so she still gets hate from people and desu she also likes to tease her fans a lot just like the whole Kyo situation.

I'm sorry guys but that's how it is, if you think that these vt are here to indulge in your fantasies of you two being friends or even worse engaged, you're on the wrong path. Ultimately this is work for them and a very good one with high paycheck and in the end all the benefits of working from home. The best we can hope for is that they stay in character for as long as possible before the next drama comes out, just like Kronii, Ame, Millie Enna.

It's hard to find streamers who have actually found balance in all I've said above, there are examples like Pomu who actually managed to create an healthy fanbase around her, Fauna who managed to not dispel that cute anime girl illusion by not participating in any major drama or also Kiara who had one of the best redemption arc in the sector. I'm actually curious about Gura if she ever comes back

[Anonymous No.]

>>42507988
>Unicorns don't exist at least on this side of the world.
5ch shitposts about my oshi's general /here/. They acknowledge that it's a unicorn general
Her Asian fans, and her, both seem to acknowledge that it's the overseas fans who hate male collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>42488456
>Two different women reacts in differemt ways
No fucking shit, retard