/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Is it really so much to ask for to have a hyper feminine EN vtuber? One that isn't a dick and is just super cute and girly? One that leans into unicorn stuff?

Is that really too much to ask? It seems so easy by comparison.

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>>42432284
You're in luck. No really Fauna is girly-girl to a factor like 5x above the usual EN levels. There's a reason she made the cut for Holo.

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>>42432284
Open wide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BKZFHro7iE

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>>42432339
Sorry i can't watch Fauna knowing the secret knowledge

[Anonymous No.]

No. because real women are flawed beings.

In few years when they improve on AI you will have your own personal vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>One that leans into unicorn stuff?
Anon what the fuck

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>>42432284
Tbf, it seems too much to ask for to have a hyper feminine woman at all these days.

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>>42432339
>There's a reason she made the cut for Holo.

I think it's more in spite of her girly-girl nature, knowing omega. Omega must just hit her desk knowing Fauna caters to unicorns so much.

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>>42432416
Impossible without being phony af

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>>42432416
all of these threads are just anons looking for grooming targets

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>>42432284
You have to go to Niji or Indies for that.

Nina and Shylily (if either are your thing) are pretty womanly/girly respectively, for instance.

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>>42432392
is this doxshit? kys

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>>42432339
Yet Council is the worst of all of hololive

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>>42432604
If Council is the worst gen then what the fuck is the best gen rumao

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>>42432578
>niji
hahhahahahahahhahaahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhaahahahahaahhahahaha
nice joke

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>>42432284
Kiara?

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>>42432810
Sure, if being girly means being annoying AF and swearing every other sentence

[Anonymous No.]

>>42432810
???

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>>42432850
i swear every time i watch her plays a story game she always talk about unrelated off-topic shit and it's really annoying

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>>42432850
>>42432874
Fauna and Kiara are unironically the most girly girls in holoEN. Watch streams.

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>>42433015
>Kiara
>Watch streams
How about no?

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>>42432339
Vouch, Fauners is incredibly girly and feminine

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>>42433160
>asks for girly girl recommendation
>gets girly girl recommendation
>whines about it
You do not deserve the girly girls. You cannot handle the girly girls.
May I suggest you watching a tomboy or gay porn?

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>>42433305
I am fine with Fauna, I don't need backup suggestions that are worse

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>>42432994
yeah, that's what actual girls are like.

Really, OP is just asking for an oxymoron: "Give me a hyper feminine vtuber" and then "but no, not like THAT feminine how actual females behave", like yeah sure if you actually mean just "feminine" in an unrealistic/contradictory hyper-specific way that panders to you it's no surprise you haven't had much luck finding it out there. Stop saying you want "girly girls" but then also get put off when they don't pay as much attention to your super important bideogayms and rather tangent about their stupid makeup shit and netflix shows, because that's what "girly girls" actually do. Just admit you're actually rather just asking for (what you think is) "GFE" or whatever, not just "girly girls" in general

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>>42433305
Tomboys are the dream, my man. If Mumei more tomboy than girly to folks here, then she's my kind of tomboy

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>>42433201
God I wish she'd suck on my straw like that

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>>42433759
That's not girly, sex is not girly

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>>42433305
That's not op, I am. I'm ok with Fauna but like... she doesn't quite scratch that itch. I think it's because she's too much into the mommy role. Feels more like MommyExperience.

I'm meaning more like Roboco, Sora, etc.

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>>42432339
>>42433201
Dying of boredom is not my priority right now.

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara is basically a girly girl and a bitch, but that's just reality.

[Anonymous No.]

Asking for "girly girls" seems slightly gay to me.

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>>42432284
Ever spent time talking to an actual woman? Why would you want that on a stream? No, the mysoginistic vision of femininity is where it's at for maybe decent entertainment. I swear, one hour of actual feminine woman content will be enough to kill half of your braincells. But you fuckers will probably dismiss this anyways

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>>42435184
I want Ronda Rousey to peg me

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>>42432284
Botan might not be feminine but she’s immune to the collab beggars

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>>42433160
Kiara is as femenine as a cock and balls, she is just a below average woman doing a copycat of an idol

[Anonymous No.]

go watch some make up reviews faggot

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>>42432339
First post, irrefutable post

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>>42435672
Thank fuck you're not a complete moron here and see through it

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>>42435465
The entirety of /hlgg/ were bantsing right through Kiara's "girltalk" collab yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

Do I have the streamer for you!

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>>42432284
OP, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but all western women are whores. There's no getting around it.

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>>42435599
It wouldn't be the barely wiggles kind either, I bet she just goes all out and hammers you raw.

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>>42432599
PL, and it's very common and public knowledge.
We're just not allowed to talk about it here.I'll probably get banned within half an hour just for bringing it up.

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>>42432339
Nothing about her is genuine. Lilypichu tier.

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>>42436252
So are the eastern, southern and northern ones

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>>42432284
Take the JP pill

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>>42436436
>watching vtuber larping as anime girl
>want it to be fleshtuber twitchfag
What is this retardation.

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>>42432284
Gura is everything you described, OP. When she gets back you will see everyone kneeling once more to the Queen of /vt/

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>>42436361
i still dont get this logic, arent vtuber like an anime character, if you find out your anime waifu is voiced by a hag/not attractive woman, you're not gonna like her anymore ?

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>>42436535
QFT

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>>42432339
Fauna is the best

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>>42432284
apex dating tournament

[Anonymous No.]

No, I have had it with catalogueniggers

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>>42432578
anon, ladylike not bitches and whores

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>>42433594
My female friends are girlboss types and I cant remember the last time they swore in casual conversation

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>>42433594
>tangent about their stupid makeup shit and netflix shows
>he watches normalfags

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>>42432388
This
>>42436709
Don't try to get it, it's the logic of friendless people trying to own "incels". They just need someone more miserable than them to survive.

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>>42436885
Anon I doubt you've met a lady since your mother.

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>>42436709
Because the character that VA is voicing is already written and they have a script. Vtubers are streamers with an anime avatar, as much as they might play a character they don't have a script provided by someone else so who they are as a person leaks through even if they try their hardest to be a different person then who they are. Kayfebe works great for staged events, but for something like live streaming it never really works which is why pretty much everyone drops it at some point.

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>>42432416
bait threads what's new

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>>42436850
>get in my overmoderated silo, NOW
Your threads are for events, and are horrendous circle-jerks at any other time

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>>42432388
....aaaaand I'm out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42437477
>Weakest of weak baits

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>>42437641
I'm not listening to a chuuba talk about birth control whatever the fucking purpose is, if you wanna do it go ahead

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>>42437686
Then you can cross out Fauna and Mumei as well I guess.
Everyone in holo probably take the pill. It doesn’t matter if they talk about it or not.

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>>42437748
Yes, exactly. The only VTubers that can be trusted are AI VTubers. If I'm watching fleshtubers, I'm not doing that for GFE/parasocial, but for entertainment reasons.

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>>42437477
Tons of women take birth control so they don't get periods and stuff.

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>>42432284
Yes anon, they average 10 CCV on twitch and youtube. Go look for them. Your presence will likely be appreciated infinitely more in their chat than in any corpo's chat.

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>>42438162
I'm sure there's no adverse affect to forcibly stopping a bodily occurence.

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>>42437748
He said he doesn't want to hear them talk about it, not he doesn't want them to take it.

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>>42432284
how the fuck is it easy?
Most vtubers break kayfabe to some extent because they're being asked to stream improv multiple hours every day/two days and it's very difficult to maintain a character for extended periods like that without also becoming redundantly boring.

It's fine if you want a fantasy like that but you need to accept that it's a fantasy and there isn't already an obvious niche tuber for that itch for a very good reason. More over, any vtuber that could do it, like say Fallenshadow or Pippa, have already been exposed as having BFs (which in literally any other industry is pretty reasonable), crushing your dream.

Like good luck but realise what you're searching for is absurdly fragile and you're only hurting yourself by indulging and normalising an unrealistic fantasy for yourself.

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>>42438433
But Mumei and Fauna did talk about it

[Anonymous No.]

Just watch Fauna

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>>42438488
Yes, and it was gross as well

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>>42432339
Fpbp, she even takes meds to drop her testosterone to absolute Zero

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>>42432392
You really can't seperate Fauna from her roomate? And does that knowledge really make you like her roomate any less? She is still as kind, caring and genuine to chat regardless of what she does wth her personal life

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>>42438681
>You really can't seperate Fauna from her roomate?
This, it's just like people complaining about a few Tempus collabs. Don't watch those, and move on until the next good stream comes along.

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>>42438162
Less about preventing the period and more about controlling it. Some women get abnormally uncomfortable or severe symptoms and hormonal BC alleviates some of those symptoms.

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>>42436436
????????? What did Lilly pichu do wrong?

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>>42438446
>women being feminine is an unrealistic fantasy
Come on, dude, are wome that weak?
Men can go to a Monastary and live and die their for their adult lives.

>The basic idea of monasticism in all its varieties is seclusion or withdrawal from the world or society.
>A voice then told him to renounce all material things, to which Galgano replied that it would be as hard as splitting a rock. To prove his point, Galgano drew his sword and plunged it into the rocky ground. To his surprise, the rock yielded like butter and the blade went through. Galgano got the message, and took up permanent residence on that hill as a humble hermit. He never left the hill, living in poverty, accompanied by wild animals and occasionally visited by villagers and monks.

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>>42438446
based af take

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>>42438863
I ain't listening to that shit either way.
Maybe this is peak girly these days, I dunno https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC6PKJ9Q-sg

[Anonymous No.]

>>42436361
Doxshit is cancer and you shuold kill yourself for looking at it.

>We're just not allowed to talk about it here
Did you ever think about WHY that's a rule?
Because it's not wanted, you faggot.

I'll be you're a SEAfag, you faggots love and live for gossip.

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>>42436709
Voice actors play a character, vtubers play an ideal version of themselves
Voice actors appear in a show/movie/game, vtubers interact with their audience often daily, often for many hours
Voice actors read their script and leave, vtubers talk about their lives and personal things
I hate gfe and even I understand the very obvious difference between the two, so I assume you're pretending to be retarded out of malice to "own" these lonely faggots

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>>42439002
How is it based?
Based means true despite public opposition; that is a very publically accepted opinion, it's pretty safe to say without reprisal.

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>>42438965
>monkfag is back

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>>42439143
Based now means simply something I agree with, even on 4chan. Try to keep up with the collective autism old man.

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>>42438965
yeah but the feminity he seeks isn't real feminity, but rather a candied form. Very feminine vtubers already exist, again Pippa or Kiara are good examples of an actual femine woman but they're also real women, which means they have the social and emotional baggage too

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>>42438387
Some women get fucked up from them with weight gain, emotions, acne, etc. I know some girls that didn't bother with them because of the side effects and they said the periods are better. Other girls don't get hit with side effects as much. It's like any medicine

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>>42438446
If Luna can act as a baby for 3 years without breaking character then surely there's a woman somewhere capable of sounding desirable to chat without lusting for cocks herself. Or just hire an asexual ffs

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>>42432284
Its not easy because men love feminine women. The chances any feminine vtuber has a bf is 99.9% Only the unlikeable (irl) ones are single

[Anonymous No.]

>>42439181
Yes.

'Promising them liberty, whereas they themselves are the slaves of corruption. For by whom a man is overcome, of the same also he is the slave'.
- 2 Peter 2:19

[Anonymous No.]

>>42432284
The key is to watch femcels

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>>42439181
>>42438965
>>42439360
What the fuck is this? Why is the catholic church performing psyops on /vt/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42439355
EN3 being all-asexual is the only way /vt/ won't riot

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>>42439467
They're desperate for followers these days. After the whole diddling kids thing tons of people left the church

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>>42439392
The most insufferable kind of women? No, thanks.

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>>42439267
OP doesn't realize that the Nadeshiko trope doesn't exist in a non-traditional, individualistic society found in the Anglosphere.

[Anonymous No.]

So here's the problem.
Really feminine girls are really sensitive to the types of people around them.
They are nice and appeals to CGDCT lovers, but they also attract genuinely creepy guys who say "Girls shouldn't swear, keep smiling" and "You are MY girl"
As a CGDCT lover, I don't want any cute girls to be harassed by men who see women like literal objects. Unlike in anime, real feminine girls can be extremely bothered by guys like that, and you have to take that into consideration. I assume real CGDCT fans would like the best thing for cute girls, and they're not just closet pedophiles who don't care about girls' feelings.

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>>42438446
>men
>can face the absolute horrors of war and, yet, march towards it

>women
>can't even act like a woman
Wew.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42439517
Hiring openly LGBTQYXWZ+/×=÷ is somehow supposed to satisfy /vt/

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>>42438965
No one on this board would do such a thing, certainly not you.
It's hypocritical of you to judge someone else in comparison to a third party thrice your manliness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42439267
And monastic life isn't real life but a candied form, yet men do it.
It's called effort and perseverance.

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>>42439756
Look at the triangle.>>42439360
Which one are you doing?
It's mere contradiction.

Now, try again.

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>>42439564
>OP doesn't realize that the Nadeshiko trope doesn't exist in a non-traditional, individualistic society found in the Anglosphere.
Only watch EN chuubas who are Japanese then

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>>42432392
>muh secret knowledge
Holy faggot

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>>42439760
I thought monks don't have internet. How are you able to post here?

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>>42439319
>wanting someone to cater to your needs rather than taking the initiative
1. Take voice coach lessons
2. Get a CTA surgery on your vocal cords
3. Take a trans medical cocktail
4. Cut off your dick and balls with a pair of rusty scissors
"Be the change you want to see in the world"

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>>42439756
Actually, reading it again
>>42439360, you're doing Ad Hominem.

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>>42439865
Look at the triangle >>42439360
Which are you doing?

It's: Ad Hominem.

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>>42439687
Asexual is the absence of sexuality moron, just like atheism is not a religion but the absence of it. If some chalk that up to LGBTQYXWZ+/×=÷ it's their fault they're retarded

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>>42438910
nothing, she was /ourgirl/ and got away with it and successfully retired from pandering to us in a healthy manner, unlike nyiggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>42439921
Sorry bro, ad hominem is all you deserve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42439973
Yawn.

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>>42436636
>anon mentions she's like a twitch whore
>SO YOU WANT THAT???
What IS this retardation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42439973
>believes in untersmensche
Really activates my almonds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42439687
Chuuba not being asexual just implies that she'll get railed eventually (if not already), and definitely not by you. Asexual chuuba is the way to go. (See: Neuro-sama)

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>>42438965
>Men can go to a Monastary
Yeah, but then they turn into fags and/or rape young boys
That's not cool dude

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>>42439823
Until you clearly define what you consider to be "feminine," there's no argument to be had.

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>>42440193
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ambiguity
>You used a double meaning or ambiguity of language to mislead or misrepresent the truth

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>>42439143
normalfags overabused that term to the point that it lost any meaning. The same goes for every other meme that went mainstream. Sadly that's the state of the world. Any subculture will get destroyed by normals, sooner or later.

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>>42439655
Men also returned shellshocked from war and were so emotionally and materially alienated from their familial connections, their children feared them. Not a great pitch for long form emotional sacrifice.

>>42439760
christendom is in generational decline in the west, clearly men DON'T do it. Never mind that even those opting for the monastic life break their oaths, so these two groups fit poorly into a black/white dichotomy you seem to be grasping at.

Besides, monks also exist in a completely different environment, it's easier to embody a certain idea when you're literally chosing to make that a facet of your permanent life style, rather than a performative motion made purely for - at best - monetary gain. Monks are more likely to be living out their preferred lifestyle, so yes, I suppose that would make it rather a lot easier to uphold.

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>>42432284
I'm sorry pygmalion but you'll never be satisfied

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>>42432392
This

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>>42440299
What is considered feminine has changed over the course of history and I'm sorry but I cannot read your mind, so here's your last reply and bump so that others in the catalog can witness your foolishness.

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>>42440408
>Men also returned shellshocked from war
And?
They still did it and still do it.

It's called sacrifice.
Women seem to really not like self-sacrifice, now that you made me think about it.

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>>42438965
And women can be nuns, not sure what point you thought you were making

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>>42440491
>What is considered feminine has changed over the course of history and I'm sorry but I cannot read your mind
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

>this fallacy is also known as the appeal to hypocrisy. It is commonly employed as an effective red herring because it takes the heat off someone having to defend their argument, and instead shifts the focus back on to the person making the criticism.

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>>42440408
>christendom is in generational decline in the west
Only took one thousand years.

>clearly men DON'T do it
Of course, even back then not all men did it, but some men CAN do it.
So, then, surely some women can be feminine.

>living out their preferred lifestyle
Nobody 'prefers' to live in poverty, per se, it's a choice for enlightenment.

[Anonymous No.]

I love it when a bait thread turns into big brain time

[Anonymous No.]

OP, what you ask for is unattainable.

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>>42432284
Come to the dork side...

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>>42440693
You still haven't defined what feminine means.

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>>42439828
>Japanese but fluent in English
>Literal RL idol (has also worked as a miko and a freelance translator)
>Knows flower arranging and how to fight with a spear, enjoys exotic teas
>Actually named Nadeshiko
>Notoriously ungroomable, just ghosts anyone who gets weird
>Says she does want a boyfriend, but if she gets one she'll retire from VTubing

[Anonymous No.]

what does unicorn even mean

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>>42440503
>Women seem to really not like self-sacrifice
>childbirth

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>>42440558
I've never seen a female hermit, show me some a la Galgano Guidotti.

>Galgano got the message, and took up permanent residence on that hill as a humble hermit. He never left the hill, living in poverty, accompanied by wild animals and occasionally visited by villagers and monks.

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>>42440914
It's a form of mental illness

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>>42440774
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

>this fallacy is also known as the appeal to hypocrisy. It is commonly employed as an effective red herring because it takes the heat off someone having to defend their argument, and instead shifts the focus back on to the person making the criticism.

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>>42440914
means not a cuck

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>>42432392
my man that secret knowledge applies to every single one of them. young, wealthy, succsessfull, famous, come ooooon, don't let the girl shaped whole in your heart do the thinking

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>>42441014
How do you want people to debate the subject if we do not have a common definition for the object of the debate?

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>>42439655
have you ever marched towards the horrors of war, or do you sit behind a computer all day like a faggot?

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>>42440959
I'd take that over getting run through the stomache with a spear or getting my limbs blown off by a cannon; want to swap?

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>>42441218
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
>You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument

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>>42432392
I can understand and respect that.

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>>42440970
There are all kinds of orders where the sisters live reclusive prayer lives. I thought this would be practically self-evident even, do I really need to get you examples of nuns who live alone? Is that really so hard for you to believe?

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>>42440914
Its a hookup term for a girl who agrees to be the third.

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>>42440503
Do you have any numbers about how many men went to war because of a sense of self-sacrifice and how many went because they were forced?

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>>42441140
You do not want to deate the subject, hence you bringing up the definition of the word now even though before you were already arguing about the topic.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/special-pleading
>Moving the goalposts is an informal fallacy in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded. That is, after an attempt has been made to score a goal, the goalposts are moved to exclude the attempt.[14] The problem with changing the rules of the game is that the meaning of the result is changed, too.[15]

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>>42439360
This pyramid is great, but you’re not using it.
The central point of your posts is relying on quotes that you assume are true when they’re not backed up by anything. Your entire argument falls flat because of that.

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>>42441231
Not sure what the comparison is, absolutely horrific shit happened (happens) to women in war too. Most battles ended in routs, too. People don't want to fight. I guess I just don't get the point you're making, it's not a competition.

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>>42441394
>do I really need to get you examples of nuns who live alone
Yes.

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>>42441659
Yeah: 1,000,000 in the USA alone, considering it's voluntary.

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>>42441800
>when they’re not backed up by anything

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/personal-incredulity
>Because you found something difficult to understand, or are unaware of how it works, you made out like it's probably not true

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>>42441931
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy

You cannot just quote random stuff and assume it as true. This has nothing to do with difficulty of comprehension. This is simply not a proof.
Accusing everyone of using fallacy will not make your argument more true. It’s still unproven and illogical.

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>>42441804
Answer the question: do you want to swap?

>People don't want to fight
Women don't. Men do, it's in our nature (we've been fighting since we've existed). Why do you think the word 'coward' is a pejorative towards men? and the word 'courageous' a compliment?

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>>42442081
It's true per se.
Read the words, it's literally right there.

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>>42442108
>Men do
Maybe idiots do. Men want to defend their home and family, sure, but that's a basic instinct all creatures possess and to shirk that duty is cowardly, but fighting because you like it? Yes, that doesn't lead to a particularly long or worthwhile life unless you're Alexander the Great. I think you should look at the reason people signed up to fight in the roman legions or equivalent, it's not for love of fighting for the most part.
Also what do you mean, swap? Do I want to die in childbirth or get stabbed with a spear? I'll do neither, I think.

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>>42442155
This is an appeal of Authority btw
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority

[Anonymous No.]

>>42441845
https://www.hermitary.com/articles/mothers.html
https://www.hermitary.com/articles/women_europe.html

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>>42442210
>Yes, that doesn't lead to a particularly long or worthwhile life unless you're Alexander the Great
Or Julius Caesar or Napoleon Boneaparte or Tokugawa Ieyasu or Scipio Africanus or Darius III or Constantine the Great or Friedrich the Great or Otto von Bismarck or Charlemange et cetera.

>Do I want to die in childbirth or get stabbed with a spear? I'll do neither, I think.
Pick, millions of men have been stabbed with a spear against their will, by not picking, you are proving what I said earlier, that women cannot tolerate self-sacrifice as much as men can.

>I think you should look at the reason people signed up to fight in the roman legions
Angustam amice pauperiem pati
robustus acri militia puer
condiscat et Parthos ferocis
vexet eques metuendus hasta
vitamque sub divo et trepidis agat
in rebus. Illum ex moenibus hosticis
matrona bellantis tyranni
prospiciens et adulta virgo
suspiret, eheu, ne rudis agminum
sponsus lacessat regius asperum
tactu leonem, quem cruenta
per medias rapit ira caedes.
Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori:
mors et fugacem persequitur virum
nec parcit inbellis iuventae
poplitibus timidove tergo.
- Quintus Horatius Flaccus

[Anonymous No.]

>>42432810
Calli is the one that care about makeup and Manipuris and spa days all that crap

[Anonymous No.]

>>42438162
>wow I get a bit uncomfortable for a couple days once a month
>better take pills to completely wreck my hormones levels for years instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>42442239
No it's not. I'm not saying it's true because God said it's true, I LITERALLY just said it's true PER SE.

I am overcome by gravity, ergo I am a slave to gravity.
I am overcome by nicotine, ergo I am a slave to nicotine.
You really couldn't figure that out, yet claimed the premise itself to be false:

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/personal-incredulity
>Because you found something difficult to understand, or are unaware of how it works, you made out like it's probably not true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42439392
There is no such thing as a femcel.
There's two kinds of women who call themselves "femcels"
>No one can reach my impossibly high standards while I am 400lbs and smell like rotting flesh
>I fuck anything that moves yet I still can't find a man that will tolerate me for more than 15 minutes, why am I so alone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42442447
https://www.hermitary.com/articles/women_europe.html
>But nuns were forbidden a life in reclusion or complete or significant solitude
>The mix of religious with social and cultural thinking on the part of ecclesiastical authorities points to a specific conception of women as the traditional "weaker" sex for whom contemplation in solitude was not possible and even dangerous to their "weaker" minds

>Galgano got the message, and took up permanent residence on that hill as a humble hermit. He never left the hill, living in poverty, accompanied by wild animals and occasionally visited by villagers and monks

[Anonymous No.]

>>42432578
Anon this isn’t bait, you’re just throwing a fishing pole into the water.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443044
Did you read them both, retard?
>Yet these women numbered in the thousands -- indeed, I would venture to say in the tens of thousands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42442880
>No one can reach my impossibly high standards while I am 400lbs and smell like rotting flesh
Reminds me of that plebbit post, from a woman, saying she freaking CRIED that she kept getting interest from Indian men and she hated it so much. She, despite describing herself as ugly and fat, CRIED that she kept getting offers from Indian men, since she did not want them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443145
Damn even 500lbs chicks don't want us

[Anonymous No.]

>>42439530
Nobody who you can consider as being “in” the church is ignorant enough to base a decision like that on a news story. That’s not how religion works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42439828
Is this Nade-chama fanart AI or the real deal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443145
The femcel subreddit got shut down or privated or something because every single member was getting DMs of men wanting to date them

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443247
Yeah but your not gonna get new followers with news stories like that. Plenty of people leave catholicism because of other reasons too. It's an old ass religion and a lot of people don't wanna deal with that while leading their modern lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42442527
I’ll be real with you chief, all those heroic deeds happened before some 300lbs lardass with failing kidneys could blast you with a missile strike while sitting on the other side of the planet. War has changed, treating warfighting as an artform or an aspirational career is a good way to end up splattered on the ground somewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443453
Femcel's aren't involuntary. They are voluntary and most of them just hate men and have ridiculously high standards. They exist though that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42441279
If a person makes a generalizing statement that they themselves do not conform with surely it is a not a fallacy to point out? There is nothing wrong with making a relevant refutation just because it relates to the individual making the original claim. Also:
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy
go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443117
>https://www.hermitary.com/articles/mothers.html
>This fear of women is vividly expressed in the extraordinary story of the third-century recluse, Martinian, who thought he had escaped the dreaded female sex by settling on a rock in the middle of the sea. Through the wiles of the devil who wished to tempt him, a woman called Photina managed to survive a shipwreck who was very reluctantly saved from drowning by the recluse.
>He was, however, so appalled by the thought of sharing his rock with a woman, that he immediately threw himself into the sea.
Based Martinian.

Going back to the topic: the whole article reads a little too much like a women's empowerment piece.
Saying men don't want to read about women, being the reason why women recluses aren't so well know, is mere speculation, unless there's actual proof of them doing it. Catholics very much venerate (or whatever they call it) Mary, exempli gratia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443475
Hey that lard ass in his chair ain't getting splatted. He's the guy you wanna be.
Guerrilla warfare still happens and can be effective in certain situations. The Taliban took Afghanistan with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443597
>The Taliban took Afghanistan with it.
They took Afgahnistan because Democracies don't win wars.

>but muh world wars
Yeah, during actual, declared wars, Democracy stops (id est: there's no more voting for a leader). FDR ran his third term because of the war, despite the law saying you can only do two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443692
the law declared term limits in the USA was instigated AFTER FDR ran 4 terms

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443542
>surely it is a not a fallacy to point out?
No.

>the sky is blue
>but you're a human so you can't say that! you're nowhere near the level of the sky!
Right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42442551
>>42438387
Why are Republicans so hell bent on controlling everything women do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443753
I'm not even American
Women are adult children and incapable of making choices with long term consequences, equal rights has demonstratably reduced the general happiness in every country in which it is practiced

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443753
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
>You misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443753
If you let women act freely you get nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42434773
You already are if decided to come here, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443692
The US isnt a democracy. It's a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. They've lost to more democratic people's movements like the Vietcong and the DPRK.
The Germans lost their war and they were a dictatorship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443834
With that education, you are an honorary American

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443949
COMMIES LOVE DEMOCRACY, FIRST-HAND PROOF RIGHT HERE.

DO NOT FORGET IT, MEN.
DEMOCRACY IS THE ENEMY OF CIVILISATION.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443731
but you see anon I can see the sky, and I know for a fact you have not seen frontline warfare

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443753
It all comes down to monogamy being created to ensure men could give their offspring their goods. Before this maternal lineage was always followed because it's 100% accurate. Men want to control women so they continue this tradition and ensure their material goods and passed to their sons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444000
Not him but:

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
>You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443835
>Exposing their end game is a fallacy
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444024
Are you a fascist or a monarchist? Genuinely curious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444000
At least Americans have the debates over whether or not it's moral to kill children so that women can continue a degenerate lifestyle, in my country it's so common and accepted that you're considered insane if you question it

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444099
>Exposing their end game

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/composition-division
>You assumed that one part of something has to be applied to all, or other, parts of it; or that the whole must apply to its parts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444135
And because of that your country has less crime. Here in the US all these unwanted babies lead to high crime. If you look at the decline in violent crime in the US it directly correlates with abortion being legalized nation wide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444250
My country is burning to the ground as we speak, it has little to do with how many children you have and more to do with how dark those children are

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444250
Just don't have sex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444038
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/special-pleading
>You moved the goalposts or made up an exception when your claim was shown to be false.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42436436
seething issues

[Anonymous No.]

>>42441096
>JP fans
>okay with male collabs, not okay with bfs
>EN fans
>okay with bfs, not okay with male collabs
Why is it like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444232
So you admit I'm right, good to know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42443096
I love Nina Kosaka, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444250
They don't care about the stats, they only care about their feelings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444284
Listen most people have sex. Next to wanting food and shelter it's the next thing people seek. Just telling people to not have sex doesn't work. Look at how abstinence only sex ed leads to more teen pregnancy. I know me and you aren't getting laid but after jacking off I can clear my head and look at this logically, I suggest you do the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444332
what part of my claim is false, and where have I moved the goalpost?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444448
>I am always right because I'm a leftist and the left is always right
>because Marx is better than God
Okay.
Words are getting is nowhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444477
is a peace built quite literally on mountains of dead children a peace worth having?
>>42444486
The true solution is to remove the people creating the unwanted children, but apparently murder is only acceptable when you're killing the unborn

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444437
JP fans are not okay with male collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444523
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
>You misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444503
>what part of my claim is false
see:
>surely it is a not a fallacy to point out?

>and where have I moved the goalpost?
see:
>but you see anon I can see the sky
Irrelevant to the topic per se.
Your original claim is false and I provided an example of why. Then you changed the goalpost by changing how right and wrong can be percieved, which is not the discussion per se.
The disussion, per se, is your logic (which is wrong).

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444523
I mean at least Marx is real. I also have yet to see anyone disprove the labor theory of value.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444591

>>42439973
'Sorry bro, ad hominem is all you deserve.'

[Anonymous No.]

>Why can't women be feminine
>pseudointellectual posts fallacy fallacies for 200 posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444554
Yes
How does that make you any better? You're killing people now too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444639
Marx's ideals depend 100% on technology and cannot exist without it.
Advanced technology.

It's a very weak idealogy if it can literally only survive with the presence of advance technology, whereas more grounded systems can exist with much less (monarchy literally existed with sticks and stones).

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444486
>Just telling people to not have sex doesn't work
Then force them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444523
>just another religious evangelist who should get off the Internet and go back to Church
>>42444554
So you want more crime built on mountains of dead women? That is what your solution will do. Look at the facts. Less abortion = More crime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444756
It's hard to call them "people", a child is innocent, a 40 year old abuser, is not. Killing a child does not absolve you of your sins, it only deepens them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444842
>So you want more crime built on mountains of dead women?
Dead darkies, some women, some male, mostly male since the ratio of men to women in my country is skewed about 65% in immigrants.
Japan is homogenous and safe, why shouldnt we be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444842
>Look at the facts
More executions = less crime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444771
Yeah Marx even said this. Feudalism was a necessary system at it's time, when it became ineffective capitalism took over. Capitalism will eventually become ineffective and socialism will take over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444971
>When your system relies entirely on "future technology"
Damn I can't wait for zero energy solutions that cater to my every need, that'll probably arrive the day after we reach oil independence and a week before global peace

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444817
How? Like with laws banning sex? Those aren't effective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444917
Japan allows abortion, and you called it safe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444690
I accept your concession

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445086
Japan is 98% Japanese, that is the main cause of their country being safe.
They are also famous for not having sex in general. I would be interested to see rates of abortion in Japan vs USA or any other western country combined with demographics over time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42437322
i dunno dude, its hard for me to believe mumei acts like that in real life. I mean it would be VERY noticeable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445036
Hey it'll happen not anytime soon. I think in the west we probably have the productive bases to make the switch over within our lifetime. China's goal is to be fully socialist by 2050, they're still backwards as fuck in large parts of the country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445053
Execution.
Adultary was an executable offence.

'Their father, Jean de Ravalet, petitioned King Henri IV at the Louvre for a pardon. Henri was sympathetic but Lefèvre was adamant that the sentence be carried out. Henri ultimately rejected Jean de Ravalet's pleas for clemency because, as a married woman, Marguerite's crime of adultery and her pregnancy were crimes against God'.

>b-but you can't just execute people like that
Sure I can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42432339
Fauna is great!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445156
>I think in the west we probably have the productive bases to make the switch over within our lifetime.
Socialism, built on the backs of tens of millions of men working in heavy industry so that women can live in luxury and criminals can be paid to rape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444917
I assume the "darkies" are poor immigrants? Yeah poor immigrants commit crime and can't afford kids and probably should get abortions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445086
Japan also doesn't have many immigrants.
Either one of us could be correct.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/false-cause
>You presumed that a real or perceived relationship between things means that one is the cause of the other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42444941
Looks like you deserve execution first and foremost, keyboard warrior.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445156
>I think in the west we probably have the productive bases to make the switch over within our lifetime
No fucking way, we have not the technology for it yet.
For, until I get my AI anime girl sex robots, my 'needs' will not have been met! and, as Marx says, 'EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEED'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445244
Damn we should just give these poor criminals lots of money and free housing so they won't commit crimes then shouldn't we?
That worked really well in the UK, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, the USA, Canada, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Austria, Denmark, Australia and New Zealand didn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42432284
Fauna might be it, although I suspect that's not what you actually want.

Lumi might be up your alley, as her general behavior screams, bellows, ROARS "girly". But she's based, and some people think that makes her manly. Go figure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445226

[Anonymous No.]

>>42438801
no, roommate shit doesn't come up on streams at all, you can put it out of mind. male collabs though? they'll come up on perfectly normal streams. It becomes acceptable to refer to homo shit whatever they are doing, the audience will bring it up if the vtuber doesn't, it basically ruins the atmosphere because you aren't allowed to put it out of mind. So you either have to accept it or leave, you can't just ignore it, it will keep coming up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445291

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445308
For each according to his ability, for each according to his need
>You will be worked till you collapse, and be given only the bare minimum you need to survive

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445244
>Yeah poor immigrants commit crime and can't afford kids and probably should get abortions.
Or just don't let them into the country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445308
Marx said that we are no where near "for each according to his need" and won't be anywhere near there for probably hundreds of years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445419
But who will run the mobile phone repair shops and kebab houses?

[Anonymous No.]

IRyS seems pretty girly to me? I mean she feels like the legit girlfriend experience and not the idealized version of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445419
Yeah that's what Japan does, it works and is easier for an island nation like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445474
Then why doesn't it work for the USA, Canada, UK or Australia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445422
Yeah, that's what I just said.
>make the switch over within our lifetime
Yeah, my lifetime is not a hundred more years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445373
This image is rich coming from the fuckers who constantly spam the Amerimutt meme on every board

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445318
Now that's a straw man, a loaded question, and probably a bunch of others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445514
It would if we tried, not like the country will collapse (proof is literally Japan).
They just don't want to because ''they'' want cheap labour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445373
Oh you're that fascist guy kek. Nice to see you again. Too bad you won't say that shit in front of my gun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445564
>List countries where immigrants are given enormous amounts of free stuff at the direct expense of the native population
>yeah but they're still poor and violent because uuuuhhhh fallacy fallacy

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445574
Sounds like we need to remove "them" and a lot of things would get a lot better

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445516
Well there's stages in socialism. Being fully socialist just means the workers own and control the means of production. Not that there's enough production to give people everything they ever need or want for free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445575
>Too bad you won't say that shit in front of my gun.
Classic communist Maoist, 'Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun' type.

you a big man!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445649
Them being capitalists? Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445575
You wouldn't pull the trigger if someone was raping your wife in front of you coward

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445649
Meh Japanese are the most cucked men on earth. Ethnostate my ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42433160
>>42432850
Anon what you're looking for is not a "feminine girl". What you're looking for is an "autistic girl".

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445711
I wouldn't use the term "capitalist", though I feel like those using it to describe themselves are much more socialist than you or I
The average capitalist is being given so many tax breaks and rebates they might as well just be on unemployment benefit at a higher rate

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445649
God's truth; a lot of people need to be removing desu.
'Them' and Commies.
And since Commies don't believe in God, we aren't committing any sort of moral wrong, since there's no moral basis (in the cosmic sense).

[Anonymous No.]

Testosterone levels are at record lows all over the world. Women aren't feminine now because (You) are a pussified omega male sitting alone in your room watching cartoon girls instead of lifting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445697
>>42445728
Keep seething boys

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445791
We offer them one thing, to ask for forgiveness before we send them to Him for judgement.
They won't, but we should allow them to ask.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445810
Seriously need to drop this U MAD shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445805
>Testosterone levels are at record lows all over the world
Literally because people stopped smoking, no joke.
Smoking raises testostrerone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445765
Well they own capital. That makes them capitalists. But yeah they get tons of help from Uncle Sam, and they dont work that is true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445840
But I like being able to breathe and run more than 30 feet without hacking up an organ

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445791
Isn't not murdering people in the 10 commandments?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445827
You're a better man than me; I would execute them a la Rome to Spartacus:
>The Romans judged that the slaves had forfeited their right to live. In 71 BC, 6,000 slaves were crucified along the 200-kilometer (120 mi) Via Appia from Rome to Capua.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445697
I mean political power does grow out of a barrel of a gun. I don't think anyone can deny that

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445934
Christfags pick and choose what rules count depending on what's convenient for them at the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>42440959
They got rid of that ASAP once they got an ounce of independence

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445934
Are you a Christian?

In any case:
'For because sentence is not speedily pronounced against the evil, the children of men commit evils without any fear'.
- Ecclesiastes 8:11

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445990
You might even say: 'might makes right'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42446093
I was for most of my life. I just lost faith.
Even still I'm pretty sure Jesus wouldn't be on board with killing a bunch of random members of his dad's chosen people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42446196
I mean I don't think what the mighty declare is "right" and what's "right" is a huge philosophical discussion. But those in power do control things that's a fact, and to get power you usually have to use violence that's true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42446228
>random
Commies literally want to ban Christians from existing, I'm sure Jesus will be okay with Christians killing commies for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445373
This is technically a /jp/ containment board so replacing that with "suck my cock bro" would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42432284


>Is it really so much to ask for to have a hyper feminine EN vtuber?

Yes. Women in countries under atlantic empire domination are so fallen they don't even have a good concept of what femininity would even be, let alone ability to participate in such an ideal.

[Anonymous No.]

If she's really feminine and cute she probably has a bf or husband and isn't into vtubing anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>42432850
If you hate swearing enough to the point that you find it to be an unattractive quality, you're a giant, quivering pussy. Kiara saying "fuck" in such a blunt and clear manner is a beautiful reminder that she is in fact not a robot. In fact, her swearing is an attractive quality by itself. Holy shit, people who want smiles, bubbles, sunshine and cinnamon and literally nothing else have to be the most boring individuals on this board.

God, I bet you fucking like Minecraft streams too, you dumb bitch. Go do your pushups. Do them, right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42446296
Yes, that's kind of what that saying has always meant.
Those who win assert their will, those who die can do nothing.

'The victor will always be the judge, the vanquished the accused'.
- Hermann Goering

[Anonymous No.]

>>42446383
Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d'honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion.

Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.

The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.

Criticism has plucked the imaginary flowers on the chain not in order that man shall continue to bear that chain without fantasy or consolation, but so that he shall throw off the chain and pluck the living flower. The criticism of religion disillusions man, so that he will think, act, and fashion his reality like a man who has discarded his illusions and regained his senses, so that he will move around himself as his own true Sun". . .

[Anonymous No.]

>>42445934
Murder is wrongful killing.
Lots of people that rightfully need killing - in minecraft, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42446737
Oh I was always under the impression that it was the mighty one is morally right. I haven't heard the phrase since highschool. But if that's the case then yeah it's true and anybody that says otherwise is mistaken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42432284
>Hyper feminine
>Super cute and girly
>Leans into unicorn stuff
But anon Cute and girly feminine girls dont want to do lame unicorn shit only grifters want to do that

[Anonymous No.]

>>42446799
I'm a communist and the world would be better off without most of those people. I'm pretty sure 2 of them work for the CIA

[Anonymous No.]

>>42446935
yeah, like any girl who is girly and wants to play home maker fr is gonna also wanna get a guy in order to live out that fantasy, so it's self defeating to wilfully make yourself a spinster and milk paypigs, especially when you can take literally any other job (for probably better wages).

also fr, what the fuck is up with all the pseudos in this thread? waaah, religous bs means girls should be chaste because I'm a monk incel. like stfu nerd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42448014
So riddle me this femoid; if that's true, then why can nips do it when you can't?
>verification not required

[Anonymous No.]

Come back home, wayward chumbuds. Your salvation is nigh

[Anonymous No.]

>>42448723
A mixture of different cultural priorities and value ordering + social inertia normalise a residual acceptance of idol culture within the entertainment industry and for aspirational entertainers looking to get a big break, it's a necessary evil to accept.

What a lot of whining on this board misses is that such culture has become increasingly out of step with younger generations and is increasingly subject to challenge. It's worth noting that the people who want to import those concepts are western incels, not the EN vtubers themselves because such rigid social restrictions are obstructive to creative content.

Japan is also hamstrung by its collectivist social frame work that means those who wish to throw off idol culture have no recourse within society, you literally just have to wait for the boomers to age out.

If they didn't feel obliged (organisationally) to appeal to unicorns, most of them really wouldn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42449517

>It's worth noting that the people who want to import those concepts are western incels
demand
>not the EN vtubers themselves because such rigid social restrictions are obstructive to creative content.
supply failing to meet demand

Pretty simple economics.
Can't have your cake and eat it too roastie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42432284
lots of them exist but no one watches them, because they are boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42450194
you're the one trying to have your cake and eat it retard
The English vtuber scene is two/three years old and there isn't any mainstream example that caters to OPs taste, if it's simple economics, then where's the market response?

Right, there is none because the bulk of demand is from people with more normal social values and as observed earlier, anyone catering to a hyper specific niche also has the option of earning as much/more money in any other industry whilst retaining the benefits of a normal western social life.

If you're gonna shit out economics 101, at least account for the labour market at work here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42450920
>didn't watch EN from release
That's too bad, but the bullshit you're talking about was invented by Omegay pre-Council debut, who Myth all ridiculed originally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42450920
>The English vtuber scene is two/three years old and there isn't any mainstream example that caters to OPs taste, if it's simple economics, then where's the market response?

Which is the whole point of this thread; market failure due to more fundamental dysfunction/collapse of social technology.
Topical example: you here right now, trying to rationalize why the cattle should be happy with eating (your) shit instead of expecting anything better.
Disneyblob makes money because nothing else is permitted or even possible, not because that's what people 'really' want.
There's a reason why 2.5d anime girls from some random island in the pacific blew up in the west in the first place; it was giving people things they were not already getting from existing formats. Take a moment to think about what that might be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42451362
>I'm not an incel, it's the internet's fault

bro, literally every twitter retard has a 2d Live model, that barrier to entry really is that low but I still don't see your menhara unicorn grooming experience. Maybe you really are the problem rather than the market

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>>42444000
He's kinda' right, though. Studies show 21-year old women have the same decision making ability as 13-year old boys. Women are sensation seeking and men lose this when they hit puberty. Also, women's right is associated globally and throughout history with a decline in civilization. It goes both ways, though. Women are given the right to be treated like men because civilization is already declining, and this just accelerates it because they make bad decisions and (surprise) aren't biologically designed to be treated like men.

>>42444250
>And because of that your country has less crime
I'm all for abortion, but you know exactly why America has a high crime rate, and pinning it on abortion is just your way of trying to sweep the actual problem under the rug.
>If you look at the decline in violent crime in the US it directly correlates with abortion being legalized nation wide
That's not true. Crime went up and down early in the 20th century and abortion wasn't even talked about back then. Know what unironically does follow American's crime pattern? Immigration.

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>>42450920
Women who live in countries that can understand english can't appeal to men because they literally have no idea how to do it even if they wanted too. There are exceptions, but generally speaking it only happens by accident; because there is no conceptual tradition, ideal, or roadmap that exists in popular discourse for them to look at and take cues from; there are no examples in popular anglo media of female characters appealing to men, and the kicker is generally speaking the implied message is just the opposite - that they *shouldn't* want too and that is it just fine, great even, to be vituperative instead.

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>>42432284
LMAO unicorns. Just LMAO.
Suffer.

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>>42451641


Sorry you're too stupid and lost the plot of the conversation. Come back when you're tall enough for this ride.

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>>42452205
>wah no, I'm not coping and regurgitating shit NeoCon Econ theory, you're just retarded

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>>42452727
Says the twitter user out here trying to say the average twitter user knows their head from their asses lol.

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>>42438910
>>42439946
kek, does /vt/ like lilypichu? just as I think this place can't get any worse

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>>42432339
Wrong. Fauna has mentioned the homo's on stream and follows them on Twitter

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>>42432810
lol no. Kiara has mentioned the homo's on stream, promoted them on stream, follows them on Twitter and promoted them on Twitter.

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Your choice should be Gura. She hasn't even acknowledged homo EN's existence and plays into the GFE thing. All these other whores talk about men or have talked to them on stream. No one comes close to Gura's unicorn level. Right below her is Irys

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>>42432284
>hyper feminine
>leans into unicorn stuff
women are hyper feminine because they asks to be getting dicked
the one who leans into unicorn stuff are in for loser's money

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>>42432451
>her

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>>42454579
Gura's not very girlie.
There's also something else I want to post, but I don't want to be banned.

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>>42432404
I can't fucking wait

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>>42432731
Hope

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>>42434773
But you said you were looking for a girly girl

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>>42449517
>such rigid social restrictions are obstructive to creative content
no roastie they're restrictive to western content creators and the kind of life they want to pursue, not to creative content as a whole.

>Japan is also hamstrung by its collectivist social frame work
Japan is one of the most capable nations in the planet and that's partly because of its social framework, you have no idea of what you're talking about

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>>42432284
If such a person still existed in the western you would not be watching JP style media.

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>>42458070
bro, that heirarchical ordering and inability to innovate business practises has resulted in some of the lowest productivity growth in the OECD, as well as some of the lowest overall productivity in the OECD.

Just shut the fuck up and quit while you're ahead

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>>42432284
>One that leans into unicorn stuff?
https://www.youtube.com/@SoumaKiyora

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>>42458337
>nation X ranks low in this one economic metric that I pick, that means its social framework needs to be dismantled
thanks for further proving my point

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>>42432339
The reason was that she was a 4view hitting 2k occasionally and also had a channel with over 100k subscribers pre-isekai.

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>>42439314
It fugs with your brain man

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>>42459944
Thinking hormone treatment has no downside is insane