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GRIM

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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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State of an extremely cluttered EN

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Reminder that these are the new First Army members.

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>>42342987
Aunt Louis is my favorite EN

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NijiEN is in overlap hell right now.
I guess that's the problem with increasing the livestreamers without increasing the audience.

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Intern-kun I want a spider lady in EN3

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>>42343020
woops

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>>42342987
Graduate everyone in this pic

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>>42342699
is a little clickbaiter, Fauna even made sure to say that she watches as a fan and doesn't want people to push for a collab, but the AI will just answer the obvious response that is yes

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I thought sonny was a flop?

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>>42342699
>let fauna collab with an AI with unpredictable behavior
OH WHAT COULD GO WRONG

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>>42342987
Maybe with enough time IRyS can reach the "eh" but not embarrassing 6k mark.

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>>42342987
Enna's numbers look ass outside of Chinksis time

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https://youtu.be/NFMmSOWPj_k
20M 93 days

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>Flayon currently beating Kotoka, aster, ren, and Scarle
Massive success bros

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>scarle 200 viewers
>Xsoliel <500 viewers
>Selen under 2k
>Huge Propnights collab barely scrapes 3.5k

Overlaps are fucking brutal. "Accelerate" lol

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>>42343188
What is MAISONdes?

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Flopsoleil status?

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>>42343280
Is even worse considering shu is on that prop collab

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>>42343280
To be fair to the prop knight collab it has 3 POVs. The numbers are respectable if you account for that, it's way more than the sum of their parts because the only 2 non shitters don't have a pov

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Who would be the designated center of each gen. I'm guessing something like
>Gen 0 Sora
>Gen 1 FBK
>Gen 2 used to be Aqua but I think Subaru has taken her place as center for their Gen
>Gamers Korone
>Gen 3 Pekora
>Gen 4 is tricky since without Coco, no one really stands out or at least has taken the reigns of the Gen. I guess either Kanata or Towa?
>Gen 5 used to have the same issue as Gen 4 but Lamy has really started to take the reigns of the Gen. Botan is still the de facto leader though
>HoloX Laplus during their debut but it's definitely Koyori now
>ID 1 Moona
>ID2 Kobo
>Myth Gura
>Council has the same issue as Gen 4. Gun to my head though? It's probably Fauna.

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>>42343327
Still can't believe they actually said that LOL. God I want one of those private discord leaks again, really need to see how unhinged they are at this point.

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>>42343289
https://jpop.fandom.com/wiki/MAISONdes

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based ABe thread. Reki and Rakka cute.

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>>42343364
Council is bae or irys

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>>42343289
buncha music nerds
that one is a KAF song collab

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https://youtu.be/y6AQZdGyQmU
Homobeggars descending on this clip like locusts to castigate Kanata for adhering to "outdated" and "backwards" idol culture because she doesn't want to do homo collabs

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>>42343364
I feel like for Council the "center" would probably be Bae simply because that's what they've kind of been rolling with up to this point. In reality I don't think they really have one.

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>>42343364
Fauna is literally the opposite of a center. It's probably Mumei given cover separated her from the rest of Council at Holofes

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>>42343388
So... not a Vtuber? Not really important for this thread then.

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>>42343364
It should be the member with the highest number
Gen 0 : Miko
Gen 1 : FBK
Gen 2 : Aqua
Gen 3 : Pekora
Gen 4 : Kanata
Gen 5 : Botan
Gen 6 : Koyori
Gamers : Korone
ID 1 : Moona
ID 2 : Reine
ID 3 : Kobo
EN 1 : Gura
EN 2 : Fauna

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holy fuck and also, the idea of vox and shu not opening streams only for sonny to get 4k is super fucking grim

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>>42343364
it is Fauna and for Gamers it's actually Mio

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>>42343471
>Featuring KAF
>Not important to this thread
This place is full of newfag.

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>>42343423
>less than 10k views
>all the top comments supportive of her

stop trying to force this drama, nijifag

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Oboretaibros?! Your response?

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>>42343471
Treat it as a special category like TFT Suisei.

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>>42343550
another essay on community post incoming?

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>>42343414
Irys is not Council.

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Easy 3.3k for Enna, you fuckers doubted her

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>>42342987
HoloEN incline arc will start after Holofes, doubters better be scared

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>>42343507
>Gamers it's actually Mio
True, she's popular these days

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>>42343550
Honestly if he sees this and it's brought up enough he literally would make another six paragraph community post whining about it.

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>>42342987
5k is good for IRyS

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>>42343541
There are a ton of comments and responses from homobeggars saying it's wrong

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>>42343550
Why do people keep discussing this? I'm time looping over and over again.

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There's still no EN 3 in sight... I'll be hopeful, they'd at least wait until one month after tempus 2 debut to debut, right? Omega isn't gonna give tempus a 2 month debut buff without EN 3 killing them, right?

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>>42343423
Comments on here actually seem pretty tame. Probably partially because she's JP, unlikely many of these "I'm okay with it" types would be as okay if this clip was of an EN girl. They certainly weren't for IRyS.

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>>42343364
I don't know why you're even asking this when the 4thfes idol outfit video has the current center for the gens aside from the ones with only 4 people

>Gen0: Sora
>Gen1: FBK
>Gen2: Aqua
>ID1: Risu
>ID2: Anya
>Myth: Gura
>Councilrys: IRyS

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>>42343423
Kinda disrespectful to the holojp members that do collab with men saying that there not real idols according to Kanata.

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>>42343364
I don't think you can call Lamy the center of Gen 5. She sorta exists in her own universe.

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where's median anon?

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>>42343522
KAF is bad at singing.

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>>42343364
why do you keep reposting this crappy list, clipwatcher?

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>>42343687
Truth hurts. Take the cocks outta your mouth if you wanna stand with the real idols.

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This epic struggle continues on.

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Rosemi deserves better than this

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>>42343688
retard

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>>42343687
she made her own definition of idol, of course that doesn't mean it will revoked sora status as an idol

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>>42343687
Towa is literally allowed to be a whore and Matsuri needs to work harder on making songs

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>>42343688
True. She's also a Nene anti

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>>42343687
She's so desperate to prove she's a lesbian that she'll throw the others to the wolves (Didn't watch the clip)

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>>42343687
A lot of the ones who refuse to collab with homos don't identify as idols. Marine says she isn't and still doesn't do homo collabs. The "idol" thing is a red herring. The JPs just understand their appeal is being a live action Yuru Yuri and their fans simply want to watch cute anime girls and are happy to provide that.

It's so weird that a vocal part of the EN vtuber fanbase still demands male collabs when it's obvious NijiEN is a total fucking shitfest because of it. Millie and Enna both created massive dumpster fires because of it.

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>>42343364
>Fauna
>Center
Sapkeks, you have to let it go.

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>>42343731
The horse race to the bottom is now very competetive.Thanks tempoop.

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>>42343438
Mumei i think in another world could work for it but current Mumei has visible self esteem issues that are a part of her character and it's kinda hard to market someone like that as the center

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>>42343731
It's funny how I could literally top the scales by logging in to any of those streams and watching on my multiple devices and accounts

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>>42342891
>>42342916

Do their wings twitch when they orgasm?

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>>42343364
>designated center of each gen
Just look at the recent idol outfits. The center is literally the center and for those gens with only 4 members pick one of the two

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>>42343778
Nene and Lamy are the closest members of Gen 5 retardo

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>>42343550
What happened to Hololive supporting their talents to do what they want?
FORCE THEM TO COLLAB FAGGOTS
WHAT IS MANAGEMENT EVEN FOR IF THEY CANT DO THIS ONE THING

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>>42343816
It's funny how hakka is trying to become a holobirb too. Can't they fucking make their own memes? Same with Nijisanji.

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>>42343770
>Towa

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>>42343731
Machina X Flopyon

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>>42343731
This is probably the tighest race I've ever seen, unluckily it's a midget race

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>>42343423
No fucking point in bringing this shit up again. It's painfully clear that homo beggars don't care about the homos (considering their dogshit CCV) nor they care about Hololive seeing how they have no problem shitting on the girls who ignore the leeches. They don't have a single argument in good faith.

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>>42343816
Thats why holojps stop pandering to eops

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YAGOO if you're practicing English by reading this shithole please save this 30 year old autistic woman

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>>42343878
Not in my head. In my head Lamy bullies Nene, even sexually sometimes.

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>>42343893
more manly than any /vt/anon

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>>42343816
Because they don't really watch NijiEN.

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>>42343865
Yes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_FJicGd1RI

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>>42343952
You at least

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https://youtu.be/1zPtuHG1RgY
This is for you,homobeggar and
Nijichad

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>>42339986
I though people /here/ said Twitter and reddit don't watch streams?

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>>42343736
I can't believe Lamy mockingly put Nene in a torture rack submission move, fucking bitch.

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>>42343364
Its bae sadly. Fauna likes to be a sidekick. Mumei has MC energy but she will never live up to her potential because of self esteem issues. Kronii also had designated center potential but she clearly doesn't care

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>>42343935
What's worse is that the twitter troons pushing this are actively sabotaging EN. Because they whine, and whine about wanting more homoshit and then they get it and they don't actually watch the streams. Every homo announcement gets 10k+ twitter likes and tons of people saying "Wow I can't wait" and then the event itself caps out at 3k viewers, it's fucking pathetic.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6AQZdGyQmU
The comments keep getting better and better.

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>>42343935
They pander to me still

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do we need to set a standard for grim territories? anything below 500 ccv is considered as part of grim gang

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>>42343423
I blame you mfs
It wasn't that bad before the clip was posted /here/

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>>42344046
Screencap them, I'm not giving that shit any view

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elira said when she cried a few days back there is gonna be a sad announcement today. anyone figure out what that is?

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>>42343938
rosemi, selen, pomu and elira did it to themselves and same goes for the fucking EN management. Why would they even think Sana or Bae were good hires? Even Amiya and Rye was probably the best shit. Like, don't they know that out of the most popular talents they have, all of them came from honest background. Did miko and pekora have great singing or dancing or drawing or VA abilities? No, they just fucking stream. Ame was one the #2 of EN, until she shits her fans and played debuff games all the time.

Fuck you cover, talents doesn't mean shit. Koyori fucking proved taht streaming endurance was the way to go.

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>>42344010
They don't, that guy is coping. The truth is that Kronii was just more popular to begin with so even if she sheds viewers she's still going to be more popular than most.

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>>42344069

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>>42344097
She's not marrying me. That's the bad news.

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>>42344097
3D cancellation

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>>42343938
why would yagoo go through a store of broken and used goods?
why would you put a plastic cup with a group of fine China

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>>42344097
MIllie graduating hopefully

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>>42344097
Honestly seems like Mysta is gonna go, he's been streaming on his roommate account recently and has never been close to anyone
He brought some the absolute worst trends NijiEN suffered through though and his fans are cancer so I'm looking forward to it

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>>42343926
they literally are saying "le idol culture killed rushia"

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>>42344133
bae streams the most in council
mumei and kronii were the mistakes of council. they are both crap streamers that barely stream. if they didn't take all the limelight at the beginning more people would check out fauna/bae and they would deservedly have way better numbers now

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>>42343816
I mean, just ask them if they say picrel as an idol

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>>42343504
Vox is there too?

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>>42344133
Amiya would tank in Hololive without the perms she needs. She's better off as an indie.
Based on what I've seen of Rye I'm not impressed. I like most of the other girls in her gen better.

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>>42343497
This is probably just my autism at work but during my LL fan days, I usually classified girls as either Centers, leaders, Aces, or support
>Centers
Basically the public face of the group or even just of a particular song. For example, each LL song had a designated center which was considered as a big deal by the fans but the group's centers was without a doubt Honoka or Chika for their respective gens
>Leaders
The people who get shit done and keep everything moving. The center is the one who has the vision but the leader is who makes it happen on and off the stage. Basically if the center is the captain of the ship, then the leader is the quartermaster.
>Ace
The top performer of the group. Is also be the most popular too
Keep in mind that someone can serve 2 or even all three of this roles. For example. FBk served as all three for Gen 1 but is more of Leader type for Gamers who has Korone as both it's Center and Ace. Both council and Gen 4, I think are missing not just a Center but a leader too.

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>>42344244
>Mumei
>Barely streams
How is it living mid 2022 still anon?

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>>42344046
>>42344085
>The high road cope
I'm okay that she doesn't want to collab with holostars as a homo fan.

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>>42344241
They killed Rushia because all their retarded tweeting congratulating her on getting together with Mafu was what made her panic and try to damage control though Kore

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>>42344133
if Hololive had more slots open Bae would be great, she's a solid singer and bilingual and was always one of the ones streaming when no one else would

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>>42343764
Sorry, Sora sang on stage with Star AND collabed with male, she's no longer an idol according to Kanata

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>>42344097
she is pregnant with Selen's child, she's crying because Selen is her sister

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>>42344305
That guy is samefagging himself, don't mind him

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>>42344305
her streaming hours are still average as fuck. shes just a lazy whore anon. stop defending her

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>>42344302
I always thought Council was Mumei and Bae switching the leader roles here and there amongst themselves

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>>42343880
I mean ...
OMG THEY ARE ON STREAM WITH A MALE?
WHORE WHORE WHORE, GRADUATE THEM ALL
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED BY MANAGEMENT

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>25,496: Moona (Hololive)
Wait what the fuck
I thought she would get way higher number than that

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>>42344226
None of luxiem have the balls to leave if things were bad.
They know they are nothing without their avatars

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>>42344370
Streaming hours are overrated. Short streams are almost always better

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>>42344302
>Both council and Gen 4, I think are missing not just a Center but a leader too

I'd argue Council is missing an Ace too. The two contenders are Mumei and Fauna with good but slightly different numbers (higher floor vs higher peaks), and then there's Kronii when she remembers she's supposed to stream.

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ASTEL SINGING REFLECT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jgiHsakXXo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jgiHsakXXo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jgiHsakXXo

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZPfCQtWCg0
Marine is such a leech?

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>>42344302
Ace of council - Kronii
no its not mumei or fauna, stop.
Center - Kronii
Leader - Bae/Mumei
They both do the most for council and even the whole of EN behind the scenes (especially mumei from what i've heard from the the en girls)

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>>42344422
In youtube i would add.
Twitch is another case

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>>42344404
kaela failed to setup the raid
was a natural funnel so some of the 30k had to re-verify

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>>42344370
She was either top 2 or top 3 in streaming hours for EN last month, anon. It was Kiara then Fauna and Mumei in I forget what order. Go look at the data.

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>>42344331
> solid singer and bilingual
We already have Mori, Kiara and irys .

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>>42344347
according to Kanata, but what about according to Aqua? also Kanata wouldn't even fuck Sora

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>>42344381
Bae is the canonical leader, but going by collabs and general feel, yeah, Mumei and Bae take turns.

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I hope Shuba still keep doing those drawings for depicting what has happened so far in the various characters' routes. They're so good and helpful to catch up viewers to the general gist of what has happened so far.

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>>42344435
Who's gen 0,2,3 ace?

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>>42344329
She shoudn't interact with males in the 1st place and then she lied. Korone said it best '' Don't lie to your fans''. The truth bite her in the ass.

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>>42344491
>Mori
>bilingual
Good bait.

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>>42344404
she sucks at stalling, 30 minutes in and 15 minutes out, she had to make time until the end of the stream

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Numberfags, I didn't even know this dropped. someone save her.

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>>42344435
council's ace is still kronii. fauna isn't really an "ace" because she's still really not all that popular mainstream wise and therefore still has pretty average ceiliings. mumei is kinda in between both of them ceiling and floor wise

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>nazuna's contract with vshojo ends
>does back to cover and naked dogeza asking for her job back
>sora feels sorry for her and asks yagoo to reconsider
>a year later they make a tweet
>"someone is rising from the dead" with a picture of rushia's model
imagine. just imagine the shock if this happens

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>>42344504
I think with council related merch (before Sana was gone) Bae tended to be the one they put in the center most.

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>>42344504
Bae has a chance to incline now she's met with the JPs. Several of them have talked about how attractive she is and Subaru is apparently chatting to her every day now. She can easily ascend to honorary JP status if she plays her cards right.

https://youtu.be/nRb6PejwWDM

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>>42344493
Sora is too high-class for Kanata
She also still haven't moved on after Coco left and Yui married

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>>42344403
with how awful Luxiem fans are it's probably legitimately psychologically damaging to him

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>>42344370
>Jan 2023
Member streams not included here

Ame
# of Public Streams: 10
Stream hours: 26 hours 19 Minutes

Ina
# of Public Streams: 12
Stream Hours: 38 Hours 09 Minutes

Kiara
# of Public Streams: 16
Stream Hours: 57 hours 10 Minutes

Mori
# of Public Streams: 11
Stream Hours: 39 hours 3 Minutes


Bae
# of Public Streams: 13
Stream/Space Hours: 38 Hours 13 Minutes

Fauna
# of Public Streams: 13
Stream Hours: 49 hours 8 Minutes

IRyS
# of Public Streams: 8
Stream/Space Hours: 29 Hours 55 Minutes

Kronii
# of Public Streams: 10
Stream/Space Hours: 36 Hours 29 Minutes

Mumei
# of Public Streams: 16
Stream/Space Hours: 46 Hours 38 Minutes

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>>42344381
Probably
Alot of the EN girls have mentioned mumei helping a shit ton off stream
Bae has alot of projects and organizes a shit ton of collabs

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>>42344530
Ah good, she is still doing them. So simple yet going the extra mile helps incoming new viewers out a lot.

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>>42344596
That's a sure fire way to tank your rep as a business

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>>42344435
fauna's mindshare is awful so no way

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>>42344097
millie suspension

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>>42343938
Rosemi would never want to be in hololive. She's not the type. She'd have to do idol shit and get paid money to entertain morons.

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>>42344453
Marine has a box with photo signed of all the holomems, she's used to cumtribute on them

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>>42344591
7 months ago I'd say Mumei was the ace but I think over time she's shifted over more in Fauna's direction with prioritizing her dedicated fans and viewers over tourist appeal. Kronii is the one I think makes the most sense as an ace currently

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>>42344556
That's unrealistic and generally I find people who have the opinion they shouldn't have male friends period comes from Homosisters pretending to be unicorns rather than actual unicorns. As long as they don't have an actual BF and don't do homo collabs that's all we ask, no male interaction in their personal life is a ridiculous strawman.

t. Unicorn.

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>>42343687
There is absolutely no point in interacting with males.

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>>42344695
Doesn't help my EOP ass, that's for sure

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>>42344453
Marine schizo seems lonely, here's a (you).

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>>42344596
Aloe, Sana or even Coco have much higher chances of going back than someone who got fucking TERMINATED

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>>42344226
nah don't think so, the name luxiem still bringing a ton of money

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>>42344302
Gen 0
>Center = Sora
>Leader = Miko
>Ace = Miko

Gen 1
>Center = Fubuki
>Leader = Fubuki
>Ace = Fubuki

Gen 2
>Center = Aqua
>Leader = Subaru
>Ace = Subaru

Gamers
>Center = ??
>Leader = Mio
>Ace = Korone

Gen 3
>Center = Pekora
>Leader = Pekora
>Ace = Marine

Gen 4
>Center = ??
>Leader = Towa
>Ace = Kanata

Gen 5
>Center = ???
>Leader = Botan
>Ace = Botan

Gen6
>Center = Laplus
>Leader = Koyori
>Ace = Koyori

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>>42344717
Money is enough to change her mind

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>>42344551
nta but
>gen0 started out as individual but if you really need to fit them on those roles
Center: Sora/Suisei/Miko
Leader: Sora/Miko
Ace: Suisei/Miko
>gen2 a fragmented gen/different circumstance but feel the same as gen0
Center: Aqua/Subaru/Ayame
Leader: Subaru
Ace: Subaru/Aqua/Ayame
>gen3
Center: Pekora/Marine
leader: de facto Marine but sometimes Pekora took the helm
Ace: Pekora/Marine

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>>42344559
https://www.youtube.com/live/4qvYudqkNpo?feature=share
Quick question what language is Mori speaking in this stream?

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>>42344798
>>Leader = Koyori
>>Ace = Koyori
??????????????????????????????????

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>>42344717
>Rosemi
Isn't she a grifter? Just toss her enough money and she'll do it.

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>>42344596
there are no meds that can save you anon

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https://twitter.com/hololive_ENcafe/status/1621720450710802433
https://twitter.com/hololive_ENcafe/status/1621720450710802433
https://twitter.com/hololive_ENcafe/status/1621720450710802433

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>>42344840
doesn't take much to be the queen of midgets

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>>42344596
Yagoo is a softie but Japanese businesses are serious about these things. If you get terminated for leaking you never come back. Even Tamaki being willing to host her is surprising considering Tamaki herself is a rather ruthless business woman who demands all her talents adhere to strict standards.

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>>42344754
interacting with males = increase in subs and viewers
do you think Pekora would be as big as she is now if she didn't suck off Jun early in her career?

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>>42344596
>mikekbeggar itt

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>>42344734
>prioritizing her dedicated fans and viewers over tourist appeal
>proceeds to spam kusoges and fps games for 3 whole months at the end of last year
more like she just got lazy and stopped trying

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>>42344422
>Kaela inclines being a stream monster
>"Wow hard work is the way to go "
>Koyori inclines being a stream monster
>"Wow hard work is the way to go"
>Maybe EN should get someone that streams a lot
>"Streamhours are way overrated, quality over quantity, doesnt matter how much"

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>>42344329
Don't be sad, she's happier now. Do you really think she'd go back to being in holo gen 3? Would she pick another timeline where she isn't free?

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>>42344840
Laplus is gone anon, you need to accept it.

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>>42344646
hmm, Coco used to be her comfort woman, now what does she do when she's down?

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>>42344440
Did he actually? Well i guess hes getting suspended soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344734
Kronii is mogged by mumei and fauna in ccv in the past few months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344914
>Koyori inclines
Do NOT look at her numbers rn

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344840
Koyori host most of gen6 collab content and prepare the material too

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344717
Rosemi is a pure opportunist. She would jump at the chance. Not the first corpo she ditched.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344670
The money is enough until they break mentally or give up atreaming like shu did

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344914
neither have inclined lemao

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344917
>she's happier now

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>>42344917
Nah Rushia doesn't give a shit about "talent freedom". She'd go back to Holo in a heartbeat if she could. The only good thing about her termination is that it made her incredibly clingy toward her overseas fans so we get much more interaction now than we did when she had her Japanese gachi in Holo.

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>>42344970
only because she refuses to stream anything other than indieshit games

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344898
Yeah but it's in those kusoges where she talks about her personal life which of course is something hardcore fans are going to be more happy about

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344970
kronii still has higher ceilings than both because sex voice to go along with sex model

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345010
Would HoloEN really be that much of an upgrade for her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344881
nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344970
When was the last time either could command 15k on a regular solo stream? She's #2 behind Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344329
What killed Rushia was her being a complete retarded menhera. The male thing was a complete nothingburger that would've been forgotten in a couple weeks at worst. Some of the Holo girls are still dealing with death threats from Chinese antis to this day after almost two years and are doing fine. Rushia just had to keep quiet and ignore it and every single thing would've been fine.
>>42344241
Now that I think about it, why don't I see this kind of behaviour towards the zhangs too? I mean they killed Coco and an entire fucking branch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344717
It wouldnt be the first time she jumps

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345032
Worry about Vox, Nijicuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344596
a phychiatrist can give you all the medicine in the world but it's like pissing against the wind, this retardation is in your dna

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344975
oh no one stream, how will general trends recover

[Anonymous No.]

Just saw that Okayu and Towa did a duet cover a few days ago and that it hasn't broken 250k yet. Is the market for song releases by Vtubers oversaturated? Not saying its one of the best ever but I remember a day when a song reaching 1 million views in 24 hours/1 week/etc. was a benchmark of quality and now it seldom seems to happen anymore.

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>>42344836
Anon, she's using basic as fuck Japanese. I guess you can say that she's bilingual but I wouldn't call her a good speaker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42343613
Quite impressive the amount of people that left her in just 20 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344596
https://youtu.be/GkiCZootPB8
Here,cover need downsize to irrelevant to get her back

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/rayp3939/status/1621713990928977920
https://twitter.com/rayp3939/status/1621713990928977920
NGL, this is too bold to be true in the venue lol
All the pettan Holos are here.

[Anonymous No.]

But like what's the point of council again?
Fauna - streams random games, decent talker i guess, horrible at everything else, annoying voice
Kronii - sex voice and big tits, but horrible at everything else, spams kusoges and barely streams
Mumei - karaoke i guess? what else does she even do other than spam kusoges
Bae - the kiara of council

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344889
business woman....

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>>42345093
>Now that I think about it, why don't I see this kind of behaviour towards the zhangs too? I mean they killed Coco and an entire fucking branch.
Because posters like this >>42345146 are the zhangs anon. And flips who hold an eternal grudge for pic related

[Anonymous No.]

Kronii should do disinterested/frustrated handjob RPs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345196
missing two

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>>42345135
There's just too many songs these days. It's probably not even worth it to make music anymore. People like Kiara, Mori, and Suisei can pump music views are an anomaly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345040
She was strongly considering leaving it and already has hinted a million times she wants to settle down and quit being an e-hostess. She had no friends in hololive and felt like they hated her. I haven't seen any evidence from her directly that she would come back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345221
NIJISEETHE

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder now you guys have 50/50 chance replying to Millie

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345066
Does any girl in Hololive have #s as bad as Rosemi's? She's about to fall below the Pippa line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345283
>She had no friends in hololive and felt like they hated her. I
Marine was very close with her and she was beginning to get close with Pekora with her joining Usaken arc that she was in the middle of when she got fired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345347
In HoloID, yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345196
Why do JP fans always exclude ID

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345135
We've been talking about youtube changing their algo in a way that nuked music views, but I think it's compounded by channels having separate tabs for uploads and live broadcasts now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345330

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>>42344741
If they do have male friends then whatever not like I can do anything about that, but personally I'll prefer the girl who says she doesn't have many friends, doesn't go out much, and mostly only interacts with other Holos over the girl who does talk about her outside Holo friends. If it's a larp whatever but at least I don't have to hear about it.

Getting comfortable talking about outside friends and shit like that is just easy recipe to lead into a Kronii "don't you guys have female friends?" situation that makes people feel like shit. And as we learned from that incident, people not having friends of the opposite gender really isn't that unrealistic

I think it's kinda silly to just lump that in as Homosisters false flagging. I think it's perfectly understandable that unicorns don't want to think about other dude's getting to hang out with and be close with their oshi. For the cgdct unicorns it probably doesn't matter but for the parasocial ones it's something no one really wants to deal with

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>>42345221
But like what's the point of myth again?
Ame - streams random games, decent talker i guess, horrible at everything else, annoying voice
Mori - sex voice and big tits, but horrible at everything else, spams kusoges and barely streams
Gura - karaoke i guess? what else does she even do other than spam kusoges
Kiara - the bae of myth

Ina is good though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345167
T.N6

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>>42345395
If ENs are treated as second class citizens then IDs are third class.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345395
>jp fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345475
You are too

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344754
Except, you know, she needs them to make her original song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344798
Ace of 0 is clearly Suisei, and I say this as a Pioneer. Suzy pulls respectable stream numbers with absolutely insane music performance. The real question is you switch Miko and Sora since Sora has been the one who's organized multiple Gen0 collabs while Miko has much more mindchair by virtue of her streaming.

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>>42345283
>flashback to clips of her being awkward about jumping into conversations during group collabs
>viewers thought she was being cute and shy
>in reality no friends, nobody liked her, of course she felt awkward
LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345395
Side brand

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>>42345462
as a takoCHAD i approve of this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345135
>a song reaching 1 million views in 24 hours
This has happened literally 6-7 times in all history

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345283
hello anti

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345462
Mori is second in EN for hours streamed 2022

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345373
Then why did she send all that shit to korekore to destroy them if she offed herself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345347
around 5, it's ID2 and ID1 minus Moona

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345330
We're all Millie here

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345457
As long as superchat money isn't going directly into chads pocket I'm fine with it. Playing some APEX offstream with some guys isn't a dealbreaker. For me the important part of the contract is availability. If she's actually single then it maintains integrity. If she's fucking chad and also soliciting donations from lonely men that's predatory and immoral. That's my take anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345373
Petbottle too...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345135
I think getting the right algo traction has gotten even more important. That has always been important of course but before it felt like a vtubers fanbase could sort of kickstart the algo, now outside of the biggest Gura, Suisei tier(for music), a song can just get completely buried by the algo for seemingly no reason and dont get recommended to anyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345573
You're going to complain about that and not the fact that I implied she was a shit musician?
it's a meme post anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344914
Kaela and Koyori both tanked streaming non-buff games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345395
Isn't this in Taiwan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345566
Yes. I am a Mike anti. She shoved her knife into hololive's back, my back, and my oshi's back. If she wanted to be gone fine, let her retire. But no, she tried to ruin everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344798
I agree with most of this except for maybe the following.
>Gen 0s ace is definitely Suisei now.
>Gamers center is Korone. I do agree that Mio can be considered as a leader type too, especially now that FBk is just kinda chilling in the background nowadays
>Gen 5s ace is definitely Lamy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345684
what oshi? you watch nijisanji after this >>42345251 (picrel)

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345554
People agreed to do one on one collabs with her all the time. People don't do one on ones with people they don't like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345373
she was pretty close with coco, kanata and haachama
only one she might have had issues with was festival

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344241
NDA violation is idol culture now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345684
You need to unlearn your Nijinig posting habits if you want to falseflag effectively Discord-kun. Too obvious right now, that reads like it came straight off the sisters hideout.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like Mio is the centre of Hololive, not just Gamers.
Though maybe im misinterpreting what is meant by centre

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345648
I accept music is subjective and my taste isn’t universal. Even if most of the people who try to shitpost her music are failed Soundcloud rappers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345251
Why do flips hate themselves so much?

[Anonymous No.]

how does this add up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToZPEUA9nYc
>7.5k ccv
>less the 600 likes
what?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345457
>For the cgdct unicorns it probably doesn't matter but for the parasocial ones it's something no one really wants to deal with
Does it matter really matter? All unicorns are the same in the end anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345804
You don't know what center means, but you are correct

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345924
bots

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345221
>>42345462
IRyS remains the best HoloEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345093
It wasn't even the first time mfmf has been caught messaging her on stream via discord. Did everyone memory hole that shit because it happened like a week after Coco graduated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345924
They just get hypnotized by her tits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345780
Bullshit, so you're telling me Pekora doesn't hate males?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345970
>Unicorn
Holy fuck you newfags are insufferably retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345804
Mio seems like she's turning into pseudo-staff what with her willing to do holoearth shilling and helping to organise shit like the summer festival.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345969
Don't lewd the Koyote

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346020
fake, is not her home3D

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345924
Normies don't like streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346048
Ok Gabe

[Anonymous No.]

Holo Tech Tips when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345804
Hololive center is Sora. Leader is Fubuki. Ace is Suisei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346059
Yes and her idol performances are popular and all the girls love her to be involved in such things too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345457
autism

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346121
>Ace is Suisei
*Pekora

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>>42345768
I don't have one, I'd rather have a bullet in my skull than be a nijifag. I was okay with Rushia before all the shit happened. Even after that I considered fandeads to be my friends and felt bad for them. I wished the best for them but then they turned their fangs at current holofans and most importantly other holos.

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>>42346169
Stage performance has nothing to do with streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346169
Since when did Pekora appeared on first take ? KEK!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346169
Depend on which side of Hololive you think is the center point I guess
Pekora have a grip on daily streaming sure, but Suisei with her TFT now has bigger reach outside of the streaming audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346123
I love Mio too

[Anonymous No.]

Casino~~

[Anonymous No.]

Isn't collab with Towa also considering as collab with male?

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck are Homo numbers getting more and more grim each day? I swear at this rate they'll be unironic 2 views in a year. The only one who seems to be holding well is Fagni, everyone else is fighting for a 2k box.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346249
collab with Kanata is also collab with male

[Anonymous No.]

Nijichads, how are we feeling?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346249

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346231
>Iroha: high impact sexual violence

[Anonymous No.]

>>42343816
>a vocal part of the EN vtuber fanbase
>>42343926
>No fucking point in bringing this shit up again

YES
STAY QUIET, UNICORN
THE VOICES
THEY WILL BRING US MORE HOMOS

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>>42345804
Centers, as mentioned, is the public face of the group, or song, or even the specific promotion. They're not necessarily the most popular or whatever either. At minimum, they're like mascots. It's the reason why Sora will forever be the center of Hololive as a whole since she was the first.

[Anonymous No.]

my cute wife

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>>42346239
Maybe this is why our feetfag poster went missing bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346228
Pekora's streaming raises everyone's profile. Suisei hitting the mainstream raises Suisei's profile. The former is helps hololive as a whole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346328
This, Pekora is much more important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346302
Ah, I was thinking it was like the centre like where things flow out from

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346249
Is towa rm a legit tranny?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346121
You mean Marine

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346249
That's why Yonkisei's bond is non-existent.

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>>42343423
what's really ironic about this is that what they're doing just to subvert japanese idol culture is literally a form of "cultural appropriation". another one of things they hate because it's racist, but suddenly it's okay when they themselves do it.

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>>42344741
As a non-unicorn my stance is that I don't want to know. If a chuuba is married great for them but if it's not part of their character or content from day 1 it shouldn't ever come up. At the same time that kind of separation is difficult to maintain forever so it's bound to be a ticking time bomb and the worst case scenario is if the guy isn't just some dude but a crusher tier meme that irreversibly ruins everyone's impression of the chuuba.

[Anonymous No.]

just came back after a two months break from vtubing
is holoen fucking dead?

[Anonymous No.]

chainsawsissies...when are the holos playing our game...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346426
you jinxed it anon, nijiEN is dying instead

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/pzatXqt-rz4
Important video for every numberfag to watch how broken youtube is currently

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346426
everyone is dead except Pekora and Suisei

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346239
is that marine on the right? tits too small

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346355
No she's adorable newfag. If Youtube was still being creepy she would have snuck in your recommendation since she is very pleasant to look at

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346426
yes
>>42346455
stop coping man

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346239
The image poster is holo biased. For every holo booth posted there are 5 niji booths ignored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346121
Center: Gura
Leader: A-Chan
Ace: Pekora

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346353
Your referring to leader types then. The ones who basically organize and keep everyone on the same page both on and off the stage. So yes, you're example of Mio is correct.

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>>42346121
Let us consult the Hololive Tree of Life.

Sora takes the place of Keter which is pure unrealized potential, the void of the infinite that is undifferentiated possibility and the ground of all that comes from it.

Suisei is obviously Tifaret, the sphere of beauty that harmonizes the powers of Gevurah (Judgement) and Chesed (Mercy) represented by Botan and Lamy respectively.

At Yesod (Foundation) we have Fubuki who is the core pillar of the tree and manifests the aspects above, a natural entry point for ascending the tree and beginning your Hololive journey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346426
NijiEN is literally collapsing in real time anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346501
i'm not the one coping tho
>>42344124
>>42345838

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346228
Suisei is their major concert closer since 2021. It's not even a discussion.
Tbh, aqua should be their next center + secondary ace. Unfortunately, she cannot handle the pressure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346506
then post the photo here, it's not like you can't upload a photo here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346355
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346386
Everyone is an imperialist when they think they are right. Never forget this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346296
When was the last time a Niji got a 50k 3D reveal that isnt a 1st army

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346249

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346426
How do you even take break from vtubing? I tried but keep coming back

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346563
the question was about holoen, nijisanji is irrelevant (in both senses of the word), bringing them up is cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346010
It got swept under the rug since her gachis insisted they were messaging each other for work reasons (music collab) iirc

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346554
>one little concert is being postponed a few months
>collapsing

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346616
gura's dead

[Anonymous No.]

weird how Baelz is outperforming Mori so heavily on part 9 of her Persona stream (compared to Mori's part 2). I don't really get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346473
>taking public metrics seriously
shiggydiggy

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346598
Elira?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346538
I see, she's for sure at the centre of my heart though

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346598
Elira obviously.
Ofc it falls apart with Finana and Pomu right after that so Oboretai is full of shit

[Anonymous No.]

my cute wife

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346624
HoloEN is doing well lately and they'll incline when Gura comes back and Holofes happens

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346625
Everyone knew she was friends with Mafu since her NND days. It was nothing that people didn't already know before. It would be like if Kanata leaked she was chatting to Kson and people pretended it was a big revelation

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346645
Mori was under heavy overlap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346645
doxbeats are suffering from second hand body dysmorphia

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346645
Persona 5 is a far more popular game then Persona 3, a better comparison would be Mori's own Part 2 of Persona 5 but I can't recall the kind of overlap she had to deal with then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346253
Magni is the only one doing anything interesting

[Anonymous No.]

numberchads, I kneel

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346575
I live in West Texas, not Taiwan. I just smell your tricks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346653
Damn Elira mogs most of HoloEN then
SHUT IT ALL DOWN YAGOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346085
>normies
go back

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346711
Except mfmf MIGHT have a penis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346765
literally the niggers of /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346645
Mori completely fell out from the Holobox. UMG saver her ass otherwise she'd just be Kiara tier now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346703
>they'll incline when Gura comes back
this is also cope anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345924
she disabled them after starting stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346765
With the femboy thing, the closest thing that would work in hololive would be a girl pretending to be a mascot that was a boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346766
So no proof then? I accept your concession

[Anonymous No.]

pippa just made over 3g in the past 15mins

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345536
Ace is someone who you can always rely on no? That is basically miko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346854
>Kiara tier
You're being much too kind to Mori. I can't remember the last time Kiara went under 2k

[Anonymous No.]

Is Hitman a /#/ approved game?
https://youtu.be/y8owAbAxAfw

[Anonymous No.]

nice "first army" you got there

[Anonymous No.]

I would trade Mori for Selen, ngl

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346909
>going to get mogged by ID kimono reveals
Who cares lmao

[Anonymous No.]

It's funny how Hoshifags think Suisei is anywhere close near hololive's actual Aces like Pekora, Marine, Gura, or Miko

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346910
Go Friend go!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345924
Nui, please, you'd only have to sing and dance once per year in Hololive, Yagoo is waiting...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346909
It is but Botan is not /#/ approved because she streams under the overlap of first army all the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346900
Is she afraid 5g will fry her brain?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346910
Calm down 35piss

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346905
Ace is someone who you pull out to make the big moments, they don't have to be a consistent presence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346910
noon streams look a little anemic today, was there an event today or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346900
Yea pippa akasupa time it's nice and loud

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346700
Mine is cuter

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346900
Griftkin Grifta

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346909
Dunno, but it is approved by me, as well as Botan herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346984
more like it will blow out her ears and mine

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346949
>Miko
>Gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346910
Is CCVID unironically back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346765
The effect this thread has had on this board is disastrous

[Anonymous No.]

>>42343816
yeah, NijiJP isnt a thing for 5 years!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346909
The new DLC gives alright numbers on Twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346910
It's a pity Subaru's 13 Sentinels isn't as popular as her other streams, her reactions to the story make these her best weekend streams yet.

[Anonymous No.]

why is /#/ biased towards certain chuubas even if their numbers aren't the greatest?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42343687
>idols
and that's why she stuck as e-cabaret hostess and not someone that actually acknowledged for her performance like Sora, Azki, Towa, Suisei. Not a good streamer like Miko/Pekora and zero entertainment value to become someone like Marine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347058
Still more relevant than Suisei on every relevant metric.
>inb4 TFT
That shit is just a FOTM that will not impact hololive in the long run.

[Anonymous No.]

Bros bros bros, I think I just had a mini heart attack and im only 28.
I hope I get to bang a nip hag before I die

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347016
lol no. Ace is usually pull big numbers and is consistent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347029
Who

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346984
I think this fits better

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347166
are you sure you didn't just have a panic attack, those feel like mini heart attacks

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347137
Because the fans of those certain chuubas congregate here for a variety of reasons at attempt to shill this thread on them to make them board meta. Necessary side effect of being the most influential thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346900
Jesus I went to her stream and even ironically how can people watch that? Do they all mute?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347183
ESL, please learn what words mean before you use them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346758
Like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347212
I was feeling pretty chill before and after, was about to smoke and maybe I have smoked too much in a short time

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347218
>attempt to shill this thread on them to make them board meta
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347229
Loud is funny is an actual thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>42343423
This is why cross-gender collabs will be Nijisanji's strongest forte!
Heck! Even with the debut of Holostars EN, the frequency of interaction between them and their female colleagues at Hololive EN is way LOW compared to the folks at Niji EN!
Separate mincraft servers! Separate group concerts! Separate groups organizations!
Only at Nijisanji you will see mixed gender groups like ILUNA and XSOLEIL!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347142
>more relevant than Suisei on every relevant metric

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346910
Subaru and Aqua are no longer First Army.
See >>42343008

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347142
>Sakura "no golds in 2023" Miko
>0 ccv shark

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347299
What happened in May/June 2022?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347330
>golds
>relevant metric

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346910
Wanpissbros, did this game flop? It doesn't look very good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347282(me)
The reason im nonchalant about maybe almost dying is that to me, the fact I will definitely die some day is what makes life bearable

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347032
Idk she was telling people save for merch and that there are better chubbas who deserved it more

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347229
Hey, she is legitimately getting like $10k on this stream so it works

[Anonymous No.]

>Nigga arguing about top Holos again
Can we just stop?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347306
Miko too
>0 gold

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347299
>Metric that benefits music focused holos
Irrelevant

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347445
what do you mean, it's the power scalling reddit tier list thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347241
In sport(basketball) sense a no body scoring 40-50 won't be suddenly called the ace or superstar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347394
I mean it’s Fubuki

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347229
It has its origin in her 2view days. Lowering your volume in a panic when a big donation comes in is an acquired taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347503
He might if it was a really important game

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347286
If you can't recognise an op or don't think people are obsessed with making boards like what they like and hate what they hate you haven't been on 4chan long enough my man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347459
Gold isn't a relevant metric retard.
Towa has 2 fucking gold and she's irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347462
>Gura
>Not counting VOD
What happen to Gura VOD Cope?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346910
Nice bait. Still better than 90% of your livers and indies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347229
I like her pipipipipipipi

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347587
And Miko has 0 golds and she's irrelevant too.
Your point?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347587
my dick says otherwise

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347462
>it's irrelevant when i dont like it

[Anonymous No.]

Some legit mass hysteria going on in Pippas stream. People dumping red supers, some 200 and 300s too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347462
>This number hurts my feelings so it doesn't matter
Classic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344914
>Kaela Inclining from leeching gura and ENs
>Koyori from leeching first army
Ftfy

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347642
Gaaaay

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347111
too many collabs during her signature games category ruined her numbers

[Anonymous No.]

Moon goddess or whatever, I see Pekora

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347254
He draws shit, that’s already better than bore simulator #6283

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347650
Nearly 8k in 30 minutes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347462
Music number is irrelevant in music related topic. You did realize that we are talking about stage performance right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42343423
Lmao that comment section is great. You can tell who's /here/ though

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347330
>>42347459
>2022 gold ranking
>Pekora: 57
>Miko: 25
>Kuzuha: 19
>Aqua: 18
if gold matters everyone below Aqua is trash tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347533
Nope. That will not automatically makes them ace.

[Anonymous No.]

Pippa got hit with a massive SC train and she's at 7k SC right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347679
im sorry your oshi's a lazy whore

[Anonymous No.]

Nigga be saying “stream does not matter” and ignore how consistent Gura schedule was in her first year

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346645
>timeslots
>P5 is more popular
>actual overlap hell with the ID kimonos
>Tartarus fucking sucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347686
If this makes me gay I don't want to be straight

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347829
Gura is not consistent anymore and even then she usually have like 3-4 stream a week.

[Anonymous No.]

I swear Pippa is the only reason Phase connect even has a chance at staying afloat in this oversaturated market

[Anonymous No.]

Is Magni the new star of the homo ? He's been doing surprisingly well lately

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347650
Instead of just reporting on the money, how about explaining why
>>42347594
Songs aren't VODS you idiot. VODs are stream archives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347829
good times

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347744
Iofi,Ina, Mumei, Ganma, Marine, Gura, Nene Koyori, Korone and a shit ton of indie Vtubers do that. It's a very common stream idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347893
Yes but my point is you absolutely need to stream a lot at the beginning of your career to get anywhere. Even Gura follow this

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347918
He's been picking buff content, compared to the rest of the shitters

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347918
He is spamming too much buffs. Hopefully he won't crash and burn

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347783
>>42347915
why aren't you posting pippa images then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347650
7500 USD this stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346766
>I live in west Texas
I’m sorry that sounds truly horrible

[Anonymous No.]

I still think people underrate Marine, as insane as it sounds. There are a lot of holos who have one strong point but Marine thrives in pretty much any setting on top of having "star power". If I had to pick just one holo to act as the ace for the entire company I would absolutely pick Marine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42345282
>put kiara on the same lvl with mori and suisei
Delusional kfp

[Anonymous No.]

>>>/vt/homoposters

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347918
He's their best hire for sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348011
NTA but people who say shit like this have generally never been to the place in question. West Texas is a nice place if you don't like cities and massive pollution.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347918
>Lately
He have always been stronger than most, if not all of them
>Draw
>Sing
>Host gimmick events

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347781
I didn't say definitely, I said maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347984
Gura didn't stream a lot. 3-4 stream/week is just average numbers of stream no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348036
He throat issues hobbled her but I agree. Marine at her best is a powerhouse not even Pekora or Suisei can match

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348042
>Putting Mori and Suisei on the same level
Delusional cuckbeat

[Anonymous No.]

>laplus returns
>streams regularly 5 times a week
What do you think, anons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347879
A male can't be this sexo

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348042
Has Suisei's most recent MV even hit a million yet? Been months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348077
That's not good

[Anonymous No.]

Oboretai when?I am waiting for your essay

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347918
Interesting that the karaoke basically got the same as a game stream. Are karaokes not big buffs for tempus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348148
>4 of those are valorant
>she stops after 3 weeks
i've seen this one before

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348106
You're gonna be the one that saves meeeee
Cos after alllllll
You're my wonderwallllll

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347930
Meme

[Anonymous No.]

I would unironically think that if flayon goes into EN 3 as the first transgender vtuber, it would be a massive success because he has that trap model

[Anonymous No.]

Welp, someone posted it on reddit.

[Anonymous No.]

holostars should find their own blue superchat gimmick, that is a god way to get a nice number of SC

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348169
Please stop posting this literal who and giving him the attention that he wants

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347915
Tenma does 450 to 1000 viewers depending on the game and Lumi averages 700 or so on twitch. But yeah Pippa since holiday season has gone a bit beyond i remember shitposting nijien with her when she was getting 1 off 1k streams now shes like a 1.7k average

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347999
because moom images are the best

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348036
cool pasta, but marine is reclining

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348169
stop posting yourself here spectrum

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348218
Blue only works for females. Red and black are the male buff colors

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347879
everytime i look at him i got a bonner

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348273
Flygon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347999
Since he didn't here

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348169
change your fucking font now it's disgusting

[Anonymous No.]

If I had to bet on phase or idol corp I would put my money on idol 100%. I can see them getting huge in the next year. Phase has a lower ceiling because of the type of fans they attract, there’s not as wide of an appeal.

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>>42348036
I genuinely think that Marine is the true peak of vtuber right now, not Pekora.
She's basically the combination of Pekora's CCV on steroids with Suisei's song number on steroids.
Not to mention all the sponsorships that she got.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348273
For Tempus it might be purple, Magni and Bettel, how's Hakka?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348303
I want to show him my aPEX lEGENDS IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348273
there's no black superchat you dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348036
Marine is quite unique in that she's able to elevate whoever she collabs with. I have never seen a bad Marine collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348358
The Holo blue and the male red. Males sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348273
So purple must work for those in between.

[Anonymous No.]

https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1619171550284107776
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1619171550284107776
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1619171550284107776
NijiEN AR live rescheduled to 11th of June

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348341
Depends on their solo poach they got debuting in 2 weeks for idol. Could be the big break

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348036
Pekora outperformed her in every metric except subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348036
She unironically only started beating Pekora in sub after streaming less and release more musics
Dunno how that work, but for the vast majority of her career this thread have always put her below Suisei and Pekora until recently. Seeing you guys saying this like it’s a revelation is funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348341
first they need to kick Pippa out of the small corp throne

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348434
Fuck you, I was in middle of typing "Holofags in shamble". Give me back my chance to shitpost

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348434
Goobscare..

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348125
Eh i honestly doubt she can have a pekora/miko average/median if she stream as much as those two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348434
cumpscare...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348434
towa baby...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348218
Isn't that literally what Gamma does with banana and unchi stickers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348401
>I have never seen a bad Marine collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348169
35p = toxic fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348273
But Astel is blue...

[Anonymous No.]

> I actually don't mind about girls not wanting to collab. What I DO mind however is the girls not acknowledging the existence of the boys

Those clips you guys posted are full of comments like this and yet "ZA BOIS XD" are all 3 views
Thank God there are tutorials about how to fight against this shit
https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths

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>>42347930
>Instead of just reporting on the money, how about explaining why
Because nobody knows. It's was a regular light debuff-stream and people just randomly started throwing Akasupas towards the end of it. And they aren't stopping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348214
It only has one comment, they don't want to see it if it's not prohomo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348344
>Marine is so OP that the creator had to nerf her giving her the throat hort disease so that she wouldn't overshadow everybody else

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348473
Lets just be fair, Unison and Treasure Box are incredible songs and she deserves the elevated status after releasing them

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348487
>kick out the person who gets 1.5k CCV regularly and is current raking in a ton of cash for mysterious reasons
why would anyone do that

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348434
HOLOKEKS STATUS???

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348401
Where's SuiMari collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348434
Interesting replies

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348192
None of them are particularly great though they could improve. You could say the same about the girls but I think people are more willing to listen to a tone deaf cute girl than an average sounding guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348558
>3view becoming almost 20k
Proved my point

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348610
unvaxxed and watching streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348273
anon, i'm talking about the blue SC gimmick, like Coco's or Aki's

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348341
Idol competes with HoloEN and NijiEN for viewers, there isnt a big massive ubtapped market there
Phase (Pippa) doesnt get their viewers from vtuber fans, they get them from fleshtubers and drama youtubers. They have a completely different set of viewerships from every other vtuber group so it is impossible to say what their ceiling is

Pippa could hit a slamdunk with some Hogwarts legacy drama and get like 10k viewers that has never seen a vtuber in their life. That chance doesnt exist for idol, they have to gradually try to get HoloEN fans to watch them over their former oshis

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348341
If HoloEN gets even 1% of their shit back together they're going to be hurt a lot more

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348605
True. But I just want to point out how this thread only start shilling her after all that. Before Treasure Box this thread doesn’t even think of her as superior to anyone and is more of a Jack of all trades, master of none

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348704
ilosers and xflopseil...

[Anonymous No.]

Pekora:
>stream: 10/10
>music: 5/10

Suisei:
>stream: 6/10
>music: 10/10

Marine:
>stream: 9/10
>music: 8/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348514
maybe, yes, that's how he is in the lead of SC

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348446
And average CCV
And song views
And 3D Live ceiling
And ...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348704
hey anons, i think that the more numbers nijien has on their debuts, the less numbers they will have on regular streams. How do you rate my hypothesis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348752
Please refer to them properly as flopsoleil like their senpai dubbed them as

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348704
Surely Riku will cease accelerating after this.

[Anonymous No.]

>selen 1.4k stream
>assume superchat reading
>its actual gameplay portion still
dragoons explain?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348758
Wrong.
Pekora:
>stream: 9/10
>music: 5/10

Suisei:
>stream: 6/10
>music: 9/10

Marine:
>stream: 10/10
>music: 10/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348473
she has more female viewers and a more mature audience, both of which tend to spend more. theres a reason why pekora is hungry for more fem nousagi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348434

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348843
Now you are just being biased toward Marine. As far as being a musician go no way Marine is better than Suisei

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348758
>pretty solid gamer
>great artist
Marine is pretty top tier in a lot of ways

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348843
nice try marine schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348770
NTA, but to be fair, of cause Marine has higher average ccv when she streams way less

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346314
Cute!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348947
Don’t take him seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348166

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346314
right, mumei still didn't tweet her idol outfit...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348166
comeback when your chicken can actual sing or pull this number

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348893
one more week, anons... one more week... then after that week, EN 3... stay strong.

[Anonymous No.]

Pippa hit 10k supas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346931
Mori is cringe but Selens laugh AND voice is terrible. KYs

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348909
No I'm talking about song numbers.
Music wise Maribako completely mogged every single one of Suisei's songs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348434
Damn. 1.8 million views already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42347879
I never knew i was gay. Now i want Towas meaty cock. Onegaaaaiiiii

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349033
Maribako MV is great, but the song itself is just above average.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348979
That's not her recent MV retard.
>>42349007
>Counting songs not even from her channel
Classic hoshifag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348758
>>42348843
Still wrong
Pekora:
>sex: 8/10

Suisei:
>sex: 7/10

Marine:
sex:10/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349007
>Not her channel.

[Anonymous No.]

NATURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL
INCLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349115
Wrong thread idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>2.0 IRyS even weaker than 1.0
My theory is that she no longer has a compelling storyline attached to her to keep people invested. The waiting for 2.0 arc made her seem like an underdog and that made people wanna support her. Now that she no longer has anything hold her back she’s being exposed as a weak streamer.

[Anonymous No.]

Bros

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349189
is so sad that the rest can keep most of the raid but he just loses it like nijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>42344025
Mumei is more like the MC of a CGDCT show. For an idol unit Bae is the undisputed center. Hell even the Coat of Arms thing council got has Mr Squeaks in the center of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349206
IRyS has to go on break so fucking often cause she doesn’t know how to take care of her throat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349206
>sub ccvid views
whole branch reclined anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349189
I fucking hate Tempoop. Stop hiding your peaks you failures. FUCK. Why wont the girls raid

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348747
I suppose. Understandable considering her fitness in the past

[Anonymous No.]

I don’t buy into the throat hurt excuse, how can PekoMiko and even Suisei recover from it so miraculously but Marine can’t?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348704
We need more waves

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349257
Okayu does that better

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348758
>>42348843
>>42349141
All wrong

Pekora:
>Strength C
>Endurance B
>Agility A
>Magical Energy A+
>Luck EX
>Noble Phantasm A+

Suisei:
>Strength B+
>Endurance A
>Agility B
>Magical Energy B
>Luck A+
>Noble Phantasm A

Marine:
>Strength A
>Endurance D
>Agility B
>Magical Energy B+
>Luck A
>Noble Phantasm EX

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348704
NijiEN gonna be carried by WHO next week?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348707
Idol has more "yab" girls than Phase does. Pippa is just so popular it gives the wrong impression. Her only co-weirdo is Lia (RIP). The rest are on the normal Holo-reject spectrum. All the Idol girls except the eel are actually insane.

[Anonymous No.]

Furen inclining?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349025
>>42348707
Pippa having a menhara moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349461
You should switch Suisei and Pekora endurance
I am still hoping she get to touch Lostbelt saga at one point

[Anonymous No.]

Someone brings Watame to the venue

[Anonymous No.]

So what's next after Holofes

[Anonymous No.]

Can we stop pretending that Suisei is in the same level as PekoMiko and Marine?
Even her musics which are her strength has reclined recently.

[Anonymous No.]

TARKOV

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think people understood my point at all. I didn't even say that Marine is the best, or more accurately perceived as the best at any one thing. I'm saying that Marine is good enough to be seriously compared to top holos regardless of whether it's music or some other type of content. How many holos can be said to have that kind of versatility, at Marine's level?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349502
Must be day that ends with y

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349461
go away fateshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349306
Just going to be another casual 5+ hour stream even though her throat isnt 100%

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349526
why is Watame disabled?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349526
Gura statue mogged

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349558
But she is a top Holo, no one denying that beside Marineschizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349271
>the rest can keep most of the raid
Don't worry anon, Tempoop ruined that too!
I think even their audience is getting tired of the raid shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349526
B-based?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349526
is that doll sextoy ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349598
Cancelling the NijiCN concert took a lot out of her so she's just taking a break from walking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349598
She cannot walk after our seis horas

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349635
Does a bear shit in the woods? Does Towa have a cute little penis?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349545
Myth, Councilrys, ID2 3D showcase
ID3 3D debut

[Anonymous No.]

Kneel to Homobeggars !

https://www.youtube.com/@VaporCh/videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349526
Watamage will ruin all of nijiens mindchair in taiwan now

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349526
Deep in the night one may hear whispers from the Watame sexdoll

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349616
>4 hr decline
THEY MUST HATE HIM

[Anonymous No.]

It's funny to see you guys speak about Marine lol and raise her above Pekora just because you don't like the queen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349479
Sure and with that they can get a lot of vtuber fans that likes yab girls or whatever.
But Pippa doesnt get vtuber fans. she gets fans that has never watched a second of Hololive and has never even heard of nijisanji. That is why her buffs and debuffs are so widely different from other vtubers and why her incline was so different from other vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349616
i think you showed the worst example, but i get the point

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349726
Numberwise Marine is better than Pekora

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349696
and wheelchairs too

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349526
Watamage is resting, before she going on a karma streak.

[Anonymous No.]

Sold out already?
https://twitter.com/Hisame6666/status/1621733088031297536

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349734
>That is why her buffs and debuffs are so widely different from other vtubers
No her buffs/debuffs aren't any different from your standard Twitchnigger vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

why is one guy arguing with himself about whether pekora/suisei/marine is better than marine/pekora/suisei?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349677
No. She has a girthy one.
> t. I know....

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349774
>average ccv
less streams = less chances for debuff
how did marine's rimworld do? how about subnautica? she streams 2 hrs max on her zatsu and utawaku

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349726
It's night time in the west, horny hours. That means Marine is on top.

[Anonymous No.]

Rough stuff, but Pippa started talking about how she'd take her own life if she ever dropped down to 100 view territory (or if she ever hit 10k because she doesn't believe she'll ever reach that number again) she's having a rough moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349726
do you think how many members out and inside hololive compare to her

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349726
Pekora may be Queen but Marine is Queen Dowager

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349839
>pekora/suisei/marine is better than marine/pekora/suisei
Suisei is NOT on the same level as Pekora and Marine. Stop pushing this garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

holo vs holo, it not even sea hour

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349819
Tickets for what

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349948
why did you show up pretending you're not the dude i'm talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349957
not everyone is a nijinigger shart-kun. I'm a pekomarifag

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349772
>i think you showed the worst example
Nah. This is the usual Tempiss raid retention rate which works even for a super reading, they rarely lose any of them, at most a few hundred over a few hours. That guy dropped 200 in the first ten minutes, another 200 30 minutes after that, and declined further from there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349872
true numberstacy talk

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349025
>5 view
>in dollars

[Anonymous No.]

>My dream started involving me going full Doom Eternal on the Holos
What’s going on with me bros?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42350001
that's why i said the worst example, because flareon and bazinga are the runts

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349957
SEA is a mindset, not location/skin colour anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349872
Pippa needs to take a break from /here/ I'm actually worried for her

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349695
It's the clickbait title that gave him that much views

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349812
Hopefully she takes down holo fes next.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349872
I mean if I lost 95% of my audience and had no idea why, I'd be pretty suicidal too

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349872
Isn't she inclining? Why even mention this now

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349948
where is Pekora and Marine's sololive? Didn't they flop their sankisei live so hard that it was dubbed the worst paid live in the history of hololive

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349115
It’s like saying peanut’s kun is the peak of vtubing because his meme song destroys all holo metrics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349726
I believe Marine is than Pekora. If she was allowed to copy her content streams Marine would mogged her hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42349206
You are right about her lacking a storyline, but she's not a weak streamer. She's literally Kronii on steroids in the sense that she's amazing during collabs and weaker on solo streams, but even there she absolutely mogs Kronii.
Her problem (outside of the obvious constant breaks) is the fact that she only has CHADcast as a group with consistent interactions. Which is a group with fucking Mori and Bae and they basically just meet once per month nowadays.
An actual MC arc with a stronger group of girls could help her a lot, but she's too passive to ever do it.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

First Army members updated

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>>42350180
pity baiting is pretty common amongst retard grifters who want more money and viewers

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>>42349866
>Marine is on top

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>>42350181
>Didn't they flop their sankisei live so hard that it was dubbed the worst paid live in the history of hololive
Is that what the voices in your head told you

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>>42350232
let miko out, put suisei in

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>>42350195
If Marine streams the same amount as pekora she won't have the time and energy to do her other projects and her throat will die.
I love both of them and watched them since debut but they each have different priorities.

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>>42349844
>we
are going to need proof anon

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>Nigga now switch to shitting on Suisei
Bruh

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>>42350232
Remove the 2 on the left as well.

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>>42350164
Don't worry Millie. We are here for you. We need you to live so the dog can still be fed.

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where's the no bitches poster when we need it...

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>>42350319
he's multitasking

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>>42350280
NTA, but anon, this live was legitimately awful. I don't think ANYONE who actually watched it will tell you it was good. A good 70% of the runtime is dedicated to some bad skit.

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>>42350319
You know they would stop if you stopped giving them attention, unless you're the one doing it to begin with.

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>>42350214
Both are shit in group collabs and are constantly trying to control or lead the situation and talk over people instead of going with the "flow".

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>>42350181
>pekora
>sololive
she don't have enough original song to perform sololive.

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>>42349352
>Why wont the girls raid
it would be like sharing a bf

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>>42350280
NTA but name a worse one then

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>>42350319
Suisei is too successful these days so he shifts his target.

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>>42350272
Why doesn't she just join hololive?

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Hoshifags in this thread have been really insuffereble since her TFT garbage

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>>42350468
She's not a male

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Got this from global you nigga now make the word “Grim” funny to me

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>>42350347
They didn’t even bring it up on their new years program during the look back on major Hololive events iirc

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>>42349734
Yup. This guy started stealth shilling pippa recently and he and his fanbase kind of makes fun of the traditional vtubers and their fanbase.

Here is an interesting segment in a recent stream where they start browsing and laugh at /vt/ till the end of the stream :

https://www.youtube.com/live/VfNkdMJJqcs?feature=share&t=23629

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>>42350272
Have her /vt/ simps memed her to a level where she longer needs them or is that inevitable betrayal and transformation into a twitch meta normalfag still pending?

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>>42350482
Hoshiyomis are actually laying low after her second First Take video.

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>>42350221
those people who made that cartoon have males, diversity and tr0ns
now they want to do the same to this hobby...

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>>42350549
I would lay low too after something flopping that hard

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>>42350221
Of course lmao

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>>42350398
Anything with Nene

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GUYS
https://imgur.io/qgLNzh9

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>>42350468
Unironically? Her content isn't good enough to cope with Cover restrictions and she'd lose the only thing she has going for her by being an "anti-vtuber" so to speak.

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>>42349872
Grift Connect is something else man

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>>42350608
If you click on this, you're fucking retarded

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>>42349352
Looking at Tempus raiding doesn't do anything when you raid a shitter. Continuously raiding the shitter will annoyed your audience and make them turn off autoplay. Once autoplay is off it could be a permanent thing. Abusing raids like this is only going to end in audience fatigue.

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>>42350221
add these two

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>>42350468
She earns more money than HoloEN

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The only true First Army
>but Miko
0 gold and slips too frequently
>but Marine
A true soldier is not always MIA
>Suichan
collabs with m*les. she is tainted
>Aqua and Shuba
lol. get with the times

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>>42350578
It's not bad. Just not Stellar Stellar good

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>>42350221
That guy is literally spam replying in every thread. Why do homobeggers go so hard

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Realistically speaking, can there be another round of holorust this year? No, KanaLuna farmville doesnt count.

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>>42350636
This. She basically shape her contents around what is trendy on Twitter
Joining Hololive won’t let her leech Asmongold or being a /pol/tard

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>>42350221
He posted about the clip being raided by 4chan as soon as you posted this.

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>>42350701
It depends on Pekora. If she plays it the others will follow

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>>42350535
That already happened a while ago
Capipis are zoomer normies who want to skinnydip into alt internet/imageboard culture

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>>42350682
A flop is a flop

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>>42350714
I guess that's why the sisters seem absent rn. Too busy shitting up that video

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>>42350772
Post membership

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>>42350757
Like clockwork, huh. It's always the same story with these women.

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>>42350701
No. Minecraft new server is just too good for views and content.

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>>42350701
It depends on pekomiko

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>>42350701
Only if they drop all the retarded rules thats meant to baby them

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>>42350701
if the managers didn't touch the game, i might happen

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>>42350790
Membership of who?

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>>42350636
I remember when she first went off the rails with the build a bear drama, got bonked by management, and went full depressive menhera.

Great day in vtubing history.

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>>42350835
they didn't touch the game tho

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>>42350701
only if Towa stops being a salty bitch and organizes something, she is the one that wanted to play Rust in the first place

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>>42350810
Holorust with Botan as the stage hazard pls.

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600 COMMENTS DOOOOOORRRRYYAAAA

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>>42350848
who does she go from build a bear to build depression?

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>>42350858
Ah yeah the Laplus Rust drama
I really find it hard to defend Laplus after that

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>>42350772
And it is not a flop.

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>>42350858
Towa just wanted to play with her leech friends. It's not about Rust.

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>>42350608
I need some Mio in my nostril

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>>42350858
Please understand, she only wants to play with her e-celeb friends

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>>42350701
They need JP vs EN and ID arc

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>>42350844
Subaru needs to finish 13 sentinels quick. The game is becoming a number poison

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>>42350854
who make the fucking boring rule? the game also have bug that make Peko can't do PVE

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>>42350883
Botan is overrated trash, even Ame and Selen are better at games

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>>42350956
>>42350950
eh has her other accounts and they're not exactly hidden.

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>>42350967
one of the girls if i remember

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>>42350978
>ame
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHASHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>42351014
anon, you said it wrong, it was
>selen
HAHAHAHAHAH

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>>42350978
If only Weight Loss is a game...

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>>42350636
Disagree. I think she is talented enough to modify her content to fit Hololive standards.

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>>42350967
It was up to a vote among the girls iirc
So they killed it themselves, management was responsible for the shitty map in S3 though

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>>42350978
Botan actually won an event as Botan unlike Selen "Apex predator losing to Tempus, Ollie and Reimu"

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>>42350978
>botan
>overrate
> chose 1 anon, don't be retard like that

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>>42351077
>Pippa
>Talented
Woah

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>>42351077
I wonder if she will be as savvy as Fauna.

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>>42350221
I had a good laugh at this
>flair
>suise
>Chloe rejecting GFE

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>>42351113
>Selen lost to Ollie
Is that a weighing contest?

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>>42351149
No she's too menhera with an equally menhera boyfriend.

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>>42351200
Watching Naruto really does seem to give people brain damage.

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>>42350126
>retard seeing an opportunity to feel self important
Yes, anon. It's all because of this mighty website. Kill yourself.

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>>42351200
Flare and Chloe are quite heavy on GFE. Chloe uses every gachi bating trick in the book and makes the ones who love her feel extra special. Flare needs no explanation with all that giggling and sweet talk she does.

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>>42350701
Reminder Gura and Ame haven't interacted since Ame told her tofuck off in Rust

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I don't understand the male collab debate
These women are selling an experience/product, male collabs would disrupt that for significant enough part of the audience for it to matter, and the gains do not fucking exist.

It's simple math. Why all these arguments about the philosophy of it?

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>>42350272
She said that at the very end after hitting 10k in donations, anon. The 100 ccv was the less important number in that sentence.

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>>42350468
I mean you say this but she literally said in a con QnA that she would ditch Phase connect for Hololive if she got in lol
I don't think she'd ever pass the auditions but I mean hey who knows maybe getting buddy buddy with Mori on twitter might pay off

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>>42351338
But enough about gold diggers.

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>>42351200
>Fubuki not GFE
>why narutard always like this

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Towa and watame are better stage ace than Pekomarine.

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>>42351399
Lets be honest, who in the EN sphere would say no? Some of the more menhera indies, anyone in vshojo except Nazuna, and some of the NijiEN girls would say no.

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>>42351376
Homobeggars are just antis. Just treat them as such

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the correct one

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Autistic woman

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>>42351587
Imagine not putting gura in first army.

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>>42351567
>>42351376
This, they just antis using a homo friendly chubba as their shield.

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I consider first army to be the ones you have to remove for Nijisanji to win the month. Last Month it was Pekora, Miko, Marine, Suisei, Koyori, Korone, and Subaru.

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>>42351376
I think debating the philosophy of it is fun because Hololive made me an idolfag

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>>42351528
>some of the NijiEN girls would say no
Which ones? I think each and every single one of them would sell a kidney to be in Hololive.

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>>42351695
We need something like Bloom 2.

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>>42350978
just that she's not? watch the battlefield tourney where she smoked pros you clipnigger

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>>42351695
>jfif.jpg

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>>42351690
and you'd be stupid for doing as such if you consider koyori anything but a third rate shitter

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>>42351718
The ones that barely know english, anyone in Ethyria, and Elira.

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>>42351663
Gura is definitely a first army in the No Streams group

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>>42351695
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/twitter-view-original-ima/bkpaljhmpehdbjkoahohlhkhlleaicel?hl=en

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>>42351746
If you remove the top 7 performers in the company she pushes hololive just enough to win the month.

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>>42351376
I know, it's that easy but it's obvious that the other side doesn't give a single fuck and it's just arguing in bad faith. I tried explaining countless times to the sisters my point, even from a completely objective consumer perspective and every time they would just go "lol incel lmao cope and seethe". Seeing the homoshits flopping so hard feels extremely good.

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So what /news/ for today?

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>>42351726
Yes, Bloom 2 Electric Boogaloo

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>>42351870
Anon didn't take his lithium so he is very upset at the stories he makes up in his monkey head.

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>>42351870
Pekora should stop streaming and takes an idol route.

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>>42351376

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>>42351766
Really? Do you think they unironically enjoy being literal accessories for a bunch of slimey groomers while seeing the HoloEN girls getting the center stage and ten times more viewers, money and opportunities?

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>>42351993
But her dream is to be a big streamer and if she abandon her dream for something else, well, that is not very idol-like isn’t it?
At least she is getting better at dancing

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https://youtu.be/EVqlnY0t5pE
MARRIED WOMAN LOVE!!!!!

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>>42352087
20k?

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>>42351809
who fucking cares, she doesn't pull shit, stop talking about this army shit if you're gonna be so flimsy with the fucking term that you're gonna include people like that

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>>42352087
the true test to see if her numbers are not a one time thing

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>>42351870
Sad bae news her outfit is experiencing further delays which made her really upset to the point of tears yesterday. It's likely is on the rigger side bc jujube.

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>>42348947
Skill issue
Maybe tell her to stop playing shits like DQ if she wants to keep her numbers

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>>42349007
That doesn't look like Suisei channel to me ...

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>>42352119
>>42352153
AZKi's numbers are better than people expected. I'm predicting 15k minimum if there is no heavy overlaps

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>>42349007
I went to her channel but I don't see this one

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Married wouldnt stop me, even if it should

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>>42352061
Well, pekofags want her to become an ace when people talk about the stage ace in the love live format.

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>>42352246
TFT is her channel

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>>42352121
I'm going to keep saying Koyori is first army since it makes you seethe so much

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>>42349598
Because she doesn't need to walk when there's people carrying her
She's actually very deadly when needed (See THE END from MGS3)

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>>42352017
They almost had a full concert together. HoloEN hasn't often close to an exclusive concert. Also not everyone wants to be in lives. Selen wasn't happy doing idol reps.

[Anonymous No.]

any prediction for holo id kimono day 2?

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>>42349726
2 million subs

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>>42352311
>Spectrum

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https://www.youtube.com/live/R0kw9E4CSiY?feature=share
Kanata's sister collabing with males!

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>>42352311
well, he's certainly on the specturm

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>>42352353
you're so smart for announcing to everyone that your opinion is worthless and you're fueled by spite like a teenage girl, no wonder you're a fan of this powerscalling shit, nice feelings faggot

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>>42352269
Honestly, I've flirted with married women before and it's fun. They don't expect anything so sometimes they let their guard down.

[Anonymous No.]

Have (You) kneeled to royalty today?
Last chances before we wait for next tally

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>>42352311
Kill yourself Spectrum. Stop posting your own shit here

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would it be bad manners if anykara announced a Luxiem exclusive concert next week? they're already done recording the parts, getting the mocap data anyways

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>>42352428
Reine will be the winner because of the Pochi buff

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>>42351376
The crux of the issue these people have seems to be some kind of culture war shit. They think the experience these girls are selling and the fact that they act like pure idols is predatory and morally wrong. i've literally seen people who will say shit like "vtuber are great, except the ones that do that predatory idol shit"
The math doesn't ever play into it with these people, they think the pursuit of the parasocial idol dream is a moral issue, as crazy as that seems.

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>>42352428
iofi 100k

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>>42352233
20k tonight, I belieb

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>>42349957
Today is Sat
t.SEA

[Anonymous No.]

So do we count TFT as Suisei's achievement or not?

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>>42352465
>so sometimes they let their guard down
and then its:

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yab

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Why are IRyS's numbers so shit lmao.
I swear now Holo ID>> Holo En
Imagine having a sub 5K stream with 0 overlap with En and the first stream since you got back lmao.
So much for the " Vsinger " of en

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>>42352481
Of course not. Riku has to reward the money makers and the shitters should've tried harder if they wanted a concert

[Anonymous No.]

>>42352523
>Not on her channel
What do you think?

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>>42352478

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>>42352536
Aki is sexiest holo hands down

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>>42352549
ID is officially a bigger branch than En. ID has more overlaps with JPs than the En do

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>>42350221
35p, explain yourselves?

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>>42344010
The thing about being left with only yesmen as fans after enough yabs is kinda true.
I remember during the early days of Mori, deadbeats were the first to shit on her when she fucked up. They did it because they expected better of her and she at least tried to take the criticism to heart and improve back then.
After the cuckbeat thing, half of them left and she's left with only yes-men so even if she wants to ask for criticism and places for her to improve now, there's no one left to ask anymore...

[Anonymous No.]

Since when spectrum become a thread celebrity? I swear anti one of the First Army is the easiest way to become one nowadays

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>>42352311
What's the video?

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>>42352549
ID does more streams
ID has better content
ID have better singers
It's not that hard if you think about it.
On the other hand, the only good En is Kiara

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>>42350221
https://wesave.chat/user/UCBdcU39IKdecfKZDUp3JL2w