/pkg/ - Production Kawaii General

[Anonymous No.]

Beach date with SEA princess edition.

Oceane Terminated
https://twitter.com/kawaiiOfficial5/status/1620764031224287232

Schedule
https://teamup.com/kshfyhfe5xdhwku7v7

All song covers:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgw0Icl_o0Y2Ogqdlux_YYhJnMPk8x3Ax

Merchandise:
https://productionkawaii.booth.pm

>Gen1
【Charlotte Suzu シャーロット・スズ】
https://twitter.com/charsuzu_kawaii
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoAw3SML_09dF-7yhQU8wFQ

【Isla Coleman アイラ・コールマン】
https://twitter.com/isla_kawaii
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuaDidGk4HNLOnQE9wzMMeQ

【Nene Amano 天野寧々】
https://twitter.com/amanene_kawaii
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu1INzefw3R7M9-3QEHYmMQ

【Reina Sun レイナ・サン】
https://twitter.com/reina_kawaiii
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKJexadCeNo3lu0U20skmNg

>Gen2
【Lua Asuka 飛鳥瑠藍】
https://twitter.com/LuaAsuka_kawaii
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV-9dgtVXHmqvzY9qdvoGYA

【Namiji Freesia ナミジ・フリージア】
https://twitter.com/namiji_kawaii
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2gPbOjo_NM2QeroArW8Yeg

【Shee Icho 銀杏しい 】
https://twitter.com/SheeIcho_kawaii
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYadZR9mRignx4RKvPow44g

>Gen 3
【Aletta Sky アレッタ スカイ】
https://twitter.com/Aletta_kawaii
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0lSxKAt9osiA29vnk1R4sg

【Miryu Kotofuji 琴藤みりゅう】
https://twitter.com/miryu_kawaii
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC58Ng5nTN3aiVveus4DEEDg

【Peony Aeria ピオニー・エリア】
https://twitter.com/Peony_Kawaii
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFcdX8we6-tSndu6w4bwnag

【Sava Safari サヴァ・サファリ】
https://twitter.com/sava_kawaii
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJGTtJdw1gtJKyMm0Fq2eng

>Graduated
【Hana Flores ハナ・フローレス 】
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkvYfE6_lEmstu6GoqPUOZQ
【Aruru Gray アルル・グレイ 】
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3IEz9Vohkw1PLZR7fx8zqQ

▼Kawaii Friends
Prism >>>/vt//ppg+/
Tsunderia >>>/vt//tsunx/
Phase Connect >>>/vt//pcg/
AkioAIR and Not-Not-CyberLive >>>/vt//aa/
V&U >>>/vt/vnug/
Yuuka - https://twitter.com/YuukaBear1
Reina's pet crustacean Ebi - https://twitter.com/ushioebi
Nene's pet crustacean Kani - https://twitter.com/Kanikanizawa
Rei Tadano - https://twitter.com/zinseifunTai
Shabel Tonya - https://twitter.com/ShabelTonya
Mogu Muge - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKj-DqyMpHgYNB3-9lZq8-w
and (You) the viewer

Last thread: >>42196883

[Anonymous No.]

Black Company

[Anonymous No.]

charzu cat + jeez man... + nene + reina + isla + hana + nami + shee + lua + aruru + peony + sava + aletta + miryu + ebi + rei + shiki + beryl + plays league of legends + does not play league of legends

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>MUH DOXING MUHHH..
This is a lie and you know it, they all conspired, they hated her for being popular

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SHEE IS ABOUT TO BE LIVE! FUCK DOXING AND DRAMA I LOVE SHEE ICHO!

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>>42203985
Pink heart sunglasses very sex.

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This whole situation makes me sick, I just want to get drunk and cry, I called my boss and told him that I'm sick I won't go to work this week, are you happy koshita you did things wrong you rushed things are not solved by firing everyone but it seems that That's your method, you talentless bastard fucking hack, solutions are found for problems, things like that are discussed, I hope you learn, koshita

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26AIFgnnzLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26AIFgnnzLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26AIFgnnzLE
ITS TIME TO WATCH TIKTOK VIDEOS WITH SHEE

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SEX WITH DRAMA-LESS, EGG-LESS BIRBWIFE

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Lazy whores were just jealous of her success

[Anonymous No.]

Where is my Oceane Floyd "Manager! I can't stream!" edit with Peony as the based cop

[Anonymous No.]

Bakers choosing Isla OPs today is very nice. I love Isla-sama.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5g_W8qR9cQ

Kawaii friend Aisha Channel.

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>>42204270
>DRAMA-LESS
dumb newfag

[Anonymous No.]

I have to admit it, I love blondes.

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I don't like Isla.

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>>42204350
What are those symbols?

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>they’re deleting all her ASMRs
At least let me get one more nut off, come the fuck on

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>>42204411
Thai

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>>42204217
>>42204263

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>>42204350
For once I actually have to try to figure out who the fuck an alleged thread friend is

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>>42204350
kinda like these chinese pop songs
https://youtu.be/98RNh7rwyf8?t=14

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>>42204424
what were her best asmr streams?

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INJUSTICE

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Nami boobs

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>>42204357
I am literally Akira Yamada

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>>42204457
I have no idea who this person is, I don't think she's a thread friend at all

[Anonymous No.]

I love Shee but her streams are at such an awkward time for me to fully enjoy. I wish she streamed like 1hr earlier than she usually does, it would be perfect.

[Anonymous No.]

Lua is awake, its over

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>>42204553
yeah it really sucks for me when shee and charzu overlap

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Here I only see cowards, who accept what the company tells them, instead of listening to the girl

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>>42204263
>watching dumb shit you dont care about with your gf because she said so
the true GFE was Shee all along...

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>>42204217
Big latina dumpy will save the threads

[Anonymous No.]

>Reina will gaslight her thousands of friends

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>>42204634
I always try to watch for as long as I can because she's such a cutie and brightens up my day.

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>>42204635
Charlotte "Murder Management" Suzu says this was the right decision.
I trust the duly elected president of VTubing over anything O***** has to say.

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>>42204739
You know what she doesn't like...

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Go away Doxxshells

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>>42204467
None of them, to be frank.
Go to /asmr/ and watch any of the JP chuubas from there for competent ASMR and/or more lewd stuff.

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>>42204660

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At least let her buy the rights to the character and channel so she won’t lose her only income, jesus

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https://twitter.com/amanene_kawaii/status/1620954613913473025
UOOOOHHHHH!!
I already forgot about whatever the yab was!!
3D Nene cunny! ToT

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>>42204629
Lua is old lol, its over

[Anonymous No.]

Imagine the shitposting if Oceane is in HoloID new gen

[Anonymous No.]

I am getting angry. Stop talking about Doxxane and focus on our cute girls

[Anonymous No.]

Not "concerned" but, why's Shee's lifestyle so unhealthy?

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>>42204660
It's true, humoring your gf's interests and letting her vent about her day is pretty authentic

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>>42204980
I want to swing her around and throw her like Mario does to Bowser

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Nami fat

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>>42204988
UOOOOOOHHHHHH Shork BTFO

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>>42205004
>take care of yourself in a reasonable way
>be a woman
These things cannot happen simultaneously

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>>42204551
is real? sheeet

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>>42204467
None, she was legitimately terrible but character acted in a way that's like heroin to teenage SEAmonkeys who don't have a strong enough grasp of the English language to discern quality. Character acting aside she's fucking awful at the actual ASMR component too.

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>>42204980
so I guess this is her 150k reward 3d model, right? based

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>>42205061
fat tits lol

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>>42204980

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Who is Paw Patrol Jr.?
If he was just some random guy that became mod somehow, then that's pretty creepy.

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>>42205001
The only girls I care about are Nene and Oceane but Nene won’t be live for another 35 minutes

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>>42204980
I wanna push her down on the bed and make fart sounds on her belly with my mouth and tuck her into bed.

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>>42205114
Either Darkstar or Shee's otouto, Paw Patrol is her onii-chan

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OCEANE DID NOTHING WRONG

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>>42205065
It's just that, every stream of hers I check she's like today I slept -5 hours and ate nothing but vacuum, guess I'll go grab some orange peels also I have cancer

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>>42205171
I thought she had 2 older brothers (no younger) and the other one was named something else

[Anonymous No.]

How long will this last? How many days until the shitposters get bored?

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>>42205250
Until she’s back as someone else

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>>42205163
this but also mating press before the tucking part

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>>42204745
yeah her voice and demeanor are really relaxing to listen to

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>>42205250
Literally just until something else happens. Unfortunately we got the short end of the stick because every other small corpo just yabbed, except PRISM who never do anything anyway, so it will be a while

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>>42205250
Not until a certain region gets rangebanned

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>>42205335
>except PRISM
wait until gen 5

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>>42205218
These are all staples of ineptitude. I want to take her into my home and cook her 3 healthy meals so she can become healthy again.

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SEANIGGERS DESERVE A CRUEL DEATH

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>>42204980
TToTT

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>>42205218
She's a woman and lives alone

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>>42205375
How many eggs are you feeding her?

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>>42205353
see you in 3 days anon...
you know you can't be mean to our SEA overlords around here
(The Philippines is a great country and houses the next stage of human evolution)

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>>42203985
Will Isla SEAout and start spreading rrats too

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Hey tourist here, I've only watched Sava a few times. Redpill me on Oceane, what was she like? I took a quick look at her channel and she was uploading videos like crazy

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>>42205335
Until HoloID kimono showcase maybe? It's the biggest planned thing I can imagine. Otherwise just wait until one of the guy holos says anything. There's always several shits being flipped whenever they do something.

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>>42205422
2 eggs at breakfast with some toast and jam

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SEANIGGERS DESERVE A CRUEL DEATH

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>>42204980
TuT

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Jesas

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>>42205481
All the Hello Kitty shit makes it a bit comedic. lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Even when talking seriously, Shee is so fucking cute

[Anonymous No.]

>grey asking for new boys in the chat gets bonked
good

[Anonymous No.]

Is this what happens when you hire ironic weebs into a weeb pandering company for girls who grew up as social misfits? Why does it keep happening?

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>>42205434
Shitposting aside why are most flips online so fucking schizo?

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>>42205651
most vtubers are ironic weebs.
or just straight up e-thots jumping on the trend since fleshtubing wasn't working out for them

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>>42205651
The majority of the vtuber space is ironic weebs at this point, unfortunately. Trendhopping normalfags looking for a quick buck. The only way to have escaped it was get in 5 years ago when it all started.

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>>42205671
Brainrot from eating pagpag and balut

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>>42205671
Wh-what are you talking about, anon? They are outstanding people and w-we should aspire to be more like them!

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>>42204350
Aisha is an ancient SEA

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Everyone shut up Shee is CRAPPING ON STREAM

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>>42205848
where's shaaang?

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>>42204701
>latina
This rrat literally makes no sense she watches fucking hallmark movies. Unless she's a LINX.

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>tik tok videos
i am not strong enough to make it...

[Anonymous No.]

shee cute

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This is why Shee is GFE.

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So who was gen 1s raging bitch now that 2 and 3 had one?

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>>42205989
Charzu

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Letti wins in the end. Watch her come back with 600+ viewers and get those sympathy donos with her crocodile tears. My ruthless business horsewife will stop at nothing to earn those cash

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>>42205671
>most flips
Most indogs too. SEA are schizo countries.

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>>42205671
I think it's little man syndrome. They went from being the protectorate of one country to another and then under a dictatorship and have had a hard time transitioning into a modern industrial economy. They want to have pride in themselves but they have very little to go on that doesn't have a bunch of subtextual baggage hanging on to it.
Japan and Korea have been American vassals for almost a century but they enjoys a very high level of modernization very rich histories of independent rule preceding that.
This state of affairs conditions them to be defensive about their own place in east Asia. Even the communist Vietnamese threw off it's french colonizers, dismantled the American backed government in South Vietnam and unified itself without submitting itself to becoming a mere vassal to the Chinese communists (which would have been a great humiliation from a Vietnamese perspective).
But the flips?
Not so good. In a hundred years they might be more confident in themselves but it's going to take more time.

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>>42204467
They’re all basically the same
>vague yandere/beach/hangover premise that quickly gets dropped
>mediocre triggers that don’t hit nearly as hard as Nene’s
>3Dio peaks so hard it’s actually painful to the viewer at times
>then, a solid minute of deep as fuck blowjob noises, the only thing people actually care about
>all the while, her dog and kid neighbors are yapping in the background, sometimes getting so loud she has to mute the mic and shoo them away
>once in a while, bitches at one guy in chat asking her for face reveal or voice reveal
It’s really a testament to how good her blowjob skills are that we put up with the rest of her shit for so long

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>>42206011
I wish I could take a week off when one of my coworkers gets fired

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>>42206108
the average job doesn't depend on you being entertaining. For some it is probably hard to be entertaining when you're mentally recovering from someone slandering and doxxing you. Its better that streams go on pause until the talents can be entertaining again, or else we'll just have boring streams.

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>>42206011
Fakeass bitch

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>>42206237
anon, leti never fucking talked to oceane

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>went from bigger than NijiEN to dead in the water
Talk about a fall from grace. Though you have to at least respect the hustle. She was ambitious, like Icarus flying into the sun, and her success in the company up until now reflected that.

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>>42206319
this hit her very hard, anon
they were gen mates!!

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>>42206413
This is what it's all about, right here.

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>>42204980
I wanna finger fuck loli nene, till she wets herself

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I DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING

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>>42206475
We know Shee.

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>>42205085
No she has an entire new outfit still left to come out for 150k

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>>42206011
none of them said they'll miss her lol

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>>42206413
nice

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>>42206070
Funny this can be applied to all SEA countries too, except for Singapore, Brunei and Malaysia, and consequently are the least schizo of SEA.

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I will no longer watch Kawaii until they get a girl with tits as big as these
>Nene
No, hers are smaller. Barely, but they are. And I don’t settle for 2nd best.

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Nami boob sandwich.

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>>42206680
Namis are better

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>>42206681
This is unhinged.
Do more.

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>>42206680
sucks to be you then more tenshi wife for me and the other cloudtomos

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>>42206011
If she was thinking about viewers and money she would post this on her YouTube community. Leti is facing a lot of personal problems and the Doxxane drama just made it worse

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>>42206681
anon, this is a blue board. Behave!

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>>42205671
Serious answer is the SEA region in general has a LOT of people living in extreme poverty who only relatively recently started getting access to the internet (in comparison to first world nations).
They don't understand proper etiquette or normal human behavior cause their day to day lives consists of bashing monkeys heads in with coconuts and circumcising parrots with twigs.
They also seethe endlessly when seeing how much more rich and better off people in other countries are.
You see similar behavior from Indians.

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non mspaint version

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I will put a baby in Shee

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>>42206070
Based take sociologist-anon

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>>42206845
Shee'll put that baby in a blender

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is it the wrong time to talk about these?

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Nene starting soon, we can forget about the doxx tard. Good riddance

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>>42206453
same but with my tongue instead of finger

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW57vrAMMN0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW57vrAMMN0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW57vrAMMN0
Nene is live! Dayo!!!

[Anonymous No.]

Should I jerk off to O***** one last time? Or should I stick with Nene? Help me decide.

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>>42206087
>>42204933
Makes sense, gonna save space in my pc and only clip some bj segments

>>42205078
also thanks anon

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>>42206918
Shes playing blue cunny...im very erect

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>>42206918
Oceane, but think you are punishing her for being a bitch to the other girls

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>>42206931
If you even have to ask you should stay with the O-Hole

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>>42206931
Nene's much cuter than Doxxanne's corpse.

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>>42206808
>bashing monkeys heads in with coconuts and circumcising parrots with twigs
I almost am afraid to ask if you're joking or if this is a real thing

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>>42206087
any timestamps for the best blowjob noises?

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>>42206931
Nene is pure, no ocean fags allowed

[Anonymous No.]

>Shee's tiktok is full of videos of babies and baby toys
I want to make her a mother so badly

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>>42206681
wtf why is it pink

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>immediately believe in the corpo statement because there is "official" in the title
It is like the Rushia case all over again. Not sure what kind of education can turn people into NPCs with a remote switch in their heads but they still think they have free will.

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https://twitter.com/isla_kawaii/status/1620966993527738369
AAAAAAAAA SHE"S ALIVE

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>>42207467
I can almost hear the stinky morning breath.

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>>42207338
What did she offer? Discord sex?

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>>42206087
They weren't even "blowjob noises", just her kissing the mic in a weird way.
And I'm not saying this to defend her, I actually listen to a lot of lewd ASMR that does blowjob noises.

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>>42207528
Post-wisdom-tooth-removal morning breath, no less. Nice and metallic.

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>>42207598
See this shit? Exact same response during the time when people had doubts about Rushia's announcement. Retarded NPCs.

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>>42206875
yea, you should be talking about this instead

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>>42206875
Yes. Be normal.

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>>42207338
rushia got was coming to her for her snake oil shit too

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i believe all women should just have huge tits

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>>42206070
I know that Risitas based memes are overused at this point, but one of the funniest subtitles were about how Spain was basically slowly getting out as a colonial power, trying to give them authonomy, and all that time Americans were pouring oil onto fire to spark an anti spanish revolution in the Philippines so their people finally push out the oppressor. Just so they would end up swooping into the country and instead of giving them independence, they basically turned them into another bitch state.
It was done in a way that it gave me one of the hardest laughs I had in a while.

One thing that I didnt know is that Japan and Germany provided some type of support in the war against the U.S. at the time.

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Squeezing Shee's gigantic head to make her feel relaxed

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>>42207754
ESL dogspeak appears out of the blue. I knew they are not kind to their own kind.

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>>42207338
Don't compare that menhera with Oceane
At least Oceane got hustle and actually shut her yap up.

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Oceane. . .

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>>42207764
based and same

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>>42207862
Im american and speak the way i do faggot deal with it

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>>42207914
Oceane’s Eleven

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>>42206875
It's all I think about

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oh shit I didn't realize Nene got her plaque

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>>42207649
Did she had actual surgery? I'm curious if she has to flush the wound every so often with an irrigation needle or not. 'cause if she did, she may have wound taste in her mouth too. And that doesn't taste very nice either, especially in the morning.

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>>42207965
ok george santos keep lying to yourself

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>>42207764
based
>>42207773
I'd rather squeeze her neck.

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>>42207338
Whenever something like this happens, you get Rushicucks crawling out of the woodwork trying to connect their whore oshis situation with the current drama. And no matter the context of it, they will always be anti company just based on their own bias.
It is actually amazing how after all these years, evidence in plain sight, her failure to sue Hololive because she had nothing on them, these apes are still grasping at straws to explain how she was the victim and any talent that faced the same destiny is also a victim by default.
Literal and unironical mental illness.

STAY IN YOUR OWN FAGGY GENERAL YOU RUSHIKEK SUBHUMANS!

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>>42208086
I believe it was full surgery but I'm not like an Isla lorekeeper so maybe another anon will know

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>>42207764
Oceane's siren fat tits are gone forever...

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>>42208143
Could always watch Emma.

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>>42208103
I believe a sizable portion of these posts are probably K*ki enjoyers and Poachcucks too.

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>>42208103
>evidence in plain sight
What I see is lack of evidence on both sides. I don't even support Rushia but corpocucks' reactions are always funny because they always say the same things.

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>>42207985
A good movie for its time but kinda hasn't aged well and is a very meh movie now a days

[Anonymous No.]

Nami's sweaty smelly armpits.

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>>42208143
Emma's tits are about the same size and she's not a toxic bitch.

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I mostly stuck to watching gen 1 but one time when I was in dire need of new ASMR I dared to watch an O***** ASMR where I proceeded to get ear raped by various loud noises as she clumsily fumbled with the mic and then she got into an argument with some random in chat, I am glad she is gone so none will have to suffer as I have.

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>>42208143
she showed her tits on stream?
where are her nipples?

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>>42208143
Which ASMR was this?

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>>42208286
>toxic bitch.
her personality might not be toxic, but her braps are

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>>42207338
The rushia case where the corp put out a statement in support of her
then had to u-turn once they actually investigated?
This case where every other talent implies the corpo statement was actually downplaying how bad she was?
>>42204179
>>42204274
>>42204635
>>42207683
oppositional defiance disorder
>>42208103
based

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>>42208307
>where are her nipples?
They ran away 'cause they couldn't stand her rotten black heart anymore.

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>>42208333
True, but she's a dorky cute sweety.

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>>42208087
I don't have to lie to make you cry that's the funny part about this you think i am sea but its wrong i just suck at spelling you think rushia was a good girl but she was rotten kek

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She won.
>B-but
Nah, fuck the company. She won.
>NOOOO THEY FIRED HER
She won’t let them.
>T-THEY’LL DELETE HER CHANNEL
She changed the password.
>H-HER TWITTER
That one, too.
>B-BUT HER PERMISSIONS
Doesn’t need em. She’ll keep streaming, and nothing will stop her.
>B-BUT HER REVENUE
Will all be hers now. Won’t share even one percent of it.
>B-BUT SUSAN
Kneels to her. Her genmates kneel to her. /vt/ kneels to her.

She. Fucking. Won.

Cope. Seethe. Dilate.

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>>42208354
go to bed Peony

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208235
You clearly don't know how japs operate. They don't fuck around with company rules, and some of these whores get a bit of fame, and think they can start bending the rules, improvising and basically want a cart blanche to do whatever they want just because on the fact that they are pulling in numbers.
Rushia quite literally did the same thing. She got too comfy, leaked company info to third parties which even that japanese drama faggot confirmed but he said he cant show screenshots of it because of the dox info and a potential lawsuit.
But keep coping thinking all these money hungry whores are completely innocent and companies all of a sudden FOR NO REASON just fired them because they were power trippin'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208445
go to bed BananaChicken

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208445
Good morning Oceane

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208445
Fans of fish vtubers are unhinged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208350
The talents basically stabbed her corpse live like how the conspirators stabbed Caeser's corpse. It is definitely not a good way to go but all we got from corpo and the girls are "trust us bros" and radio silence from Oceane due to the NDA.

[Anonymous No.]

look at this lua

[Anonymous No.]

>shows off new cunny model
>playing cunny archive
Nene knows cunny heals all wounds

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208445
File name. Go back subhuman. You are too obvious. Get something else to do with your life other than milking drama for days and days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208497
Retarded tourists don't know Kawaii already had multiple graduations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208620
Imagine if that mug was full of her pee

[Anonymous No.]

I like it when Shee looks to the side and her entire face slides into the lower 1/4th of her chin

[Anonymous No.]

Can't believe shee makes me fucking watch her browsing tiktok.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208620

[Anonymous No.]

What is it with aquatic vtubers and cringe?

See: Finana, Cumbuds, Artemis, now Oceane. and my mind is probably blanking on some others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208803
same

[Anonymous No.]

>>42207338
No, but what is she going to say about what happened? Probably nothing, Rushia didn't

[Anonymous No.]

Shee, baby, I love you, but...this stream is kinda turboshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208626
Maybe they're starting to see the light. After multiple big tit betrayals it is now time for the era of cunny. Every talent with the exception of Lua who will do exclusively mommy experience is going to get a cunny redesign and call us onii-chan. This is truly the golden age.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208620
check out THIS lua

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208879
>and my mind is probably blanking on some others
The one that used to be in prism

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208143
>those whores in the chat
might be in her doxxcord too

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208933
holy armpits

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208932
Peony, Charzu, Sava, and Miryu all should have been cunny anyways

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208933

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208974
Miryu having booba is fine, shes the dumb older sister trope

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208934
Well, she was just a boring normie, not cringe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208974
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208695
50% pee 50% beer

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208933
SNIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208933
RERORERORERORERORERO

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208934
I don't remember that one being cringe, but rather breaking people's heart with the graduation. The announcemen was one the unintentionally dark comedy moment

[Anonymous No.]

I was trying to watch Reina, and I like her, but is it just me or is her audio really painfully loud?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209084
Beer? Gross...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209084
they should call that drink "peerless"

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209117
I’ll cut your tongue off

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208974
single worst take in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

Why...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209177
Sorry, Nami...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208933
God, I want to hear the bones in her neck creak and squeak while I squeeze her throat relentlessly and bury my face in her armpit at the same time...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209099
I’ll turn your nose like Michael Jackson and smash it with a moon globe

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208914
Oceane can't do shit even IF it is actually a slander on her because she doesn't have the money to fight in a long protracted lawsuit with a corpo in another country. Sucks to be her I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209204
why do you want to hurt my wife

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208974
I really can't picture Miryu flat. I agree on Peony though. Tsurupettan peony could be an actual religion.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>Shee is being recommended indian reservation tiktoks
Uhh bros? I thought Shee was a big booty latina?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209267
Oh, I just like choking for sexual gratification. I have no ill will against her

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209336
She lives in the American Southwest, not surprising she gets indian reservations

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209336
She was smuggled in by Indians.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209329
I can fix her...with my cock...

[Anonymous No.]

what happened to aruru anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209204
>>42209345
How about I rip your own dick and balls, and shove it in your mouth. Since you like choking I’ll even add a ball gag to keep it in there. Sounds fun aint it mate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209329
Nene may have healed my heart, but Oceane healed my dick like no one else. I don't think I’ll be attracted to any other woman again after her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209441
I didn't like her streaming to a bunch of strangers so she decided to graduate and have sex with me every day

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209441
She gave out too much info, some retard tracked her home address, and the stress of being stalked made her graduate and move home.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209470
Try sex tourism in SEA. You’ll find a million dumb whores like Oceane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208836
It's great isn't it? This is peak gfe

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209441
She pumped and dumped Kawaii when she didn't make tons of money. Also apparently she worked a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209470
O-hole made Reina cry.
Blood is required.

[Anonymous No.]

What's your favorite Lua ASMR? The afterschool one was really nice, but I think the sleeping with your boss at the hotel one was my favorite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209441
Too menhera to keep up with minimum hour stream hour requirement

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209566
>I'm snuggled in bed watching tiktoks
I'm turning into shee...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209617
secretary giving a massage is pretty good

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209617
The boss at the hotel one was really, really good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209329
hot women can't actually be evil...right bros?

[Anonymous No.]

If y’all really hated Oceane so much, how come both this thread and this board had nothing but praise for her up until now?

[Anonymous No.]

I still refuse to believe Oceane was this evil mastermind, she’s a lovely woman

[Anonymous No.]

/#/ should be banned from the board unironically. It's nothing but faggots spreading rrats, not even for fun, but to try and influence girls numbers so they would "win" in a number fagging game. Truly one of the most cancerous generals ever. They ban /become/ and /ringo/ but this garbage is allowed.
>>42209153
>>42209561

[Anonymous No.]

>y’all
Troon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209758
Better her than that fucking kitten killing tranny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209617
Yeah we know Luke the Goon because you commissioned the art thumbnail

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209758
>filename

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209758
She has been consistently shit on since her debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209821
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209714
Women don't have morals at all, just group think
Oceane's "group" hated weeb stuff and saw everyone in Kawaii as people who don't fit in (losers) so she always acted she was better than them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209791
Based on what? Really, seriously, based on literally WHAT? Your limited interactions with her? The interactions centered around her trying to get money out of you and everyone else in the stream? You got conned by a woman pretending to be sweet, get the fuck over it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209293
>>42209017
Yeah I guess Miryu suits the tits..
I stand by the others though

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209823
I'd explain to you why they're allowed to stay but I just got off a vacation and I'd like to keep posting for a while longer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209758
>file name
>file name
>file name
You are still in the thread, trying to start something? Kinda sad.
>praise for her up until now?
Obvious tourist post. You literally have shit for brains.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209823
Agreed.
It's just tribalism and rrat spreading by SEAs that don't even watch streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209566
It's so realistic. Even down to all of these tiktoks being unfunny, vapid, or pointless but I'm still reacting in the chat so she thinks I care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209566
snuggling in bed under the warm sheets, being forced to consume shitty media because my girlfriend said so...I want it so bad, bros

[Anonymous No.]

I still feel like shit, even moreso now that the initial shock has worn off and the reality has set in. I just don't understand what causes people to act that way. She was unironically a rising star; she could've grown so much and made so many friends in the community, but she threw it all away and became a pariah, all for what? So she could get groomed by a couple of her top paypigs? What a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.]

Never felt so betrayed by a vtuber until now. I'm sad bros.

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that kicking a man while he's down is nigger behavior. Don't be a nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209441
and someone in another thread said she reincarnated but im not sure?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210244
even when newfags are literally spoonfed they still ask what happened, what's the point

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209617
The unarchived one

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210213
Nobody is kicking any man here

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210092
this situation I think happened more out of her anger issues and vindictiveness more than her getting groomed, hell she pretty much was the groomer for her own rrat army

[Anonymous No.]

All according to keikaku

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209830
quiet randumb

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210431
I wish Charzu would kick me

[Anonymous No.]

>>42209617
Oshi stalker 2 and fanbox one

[Anonymous No.]

I often think about the time I opened a Nene stream and she did a Tenshi Beam, and as soon as she finished doing it I farted violently and uncontrollably for thirty seconds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210459
It would be uh... fitting behavior

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210444
Miryu seems to not care about this at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210444
did you plan this all along pre-chat Miryu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210444
Miryu's cuteness was pissing oceane off and she went full doxxschizo, makes sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210587
She has special angel powers

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210725
Is it possible to learn this power?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210884
No

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210921
Damn. I'd love to do that to people I dislike.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42211053
just fuck them in the ass like Mr.garrison would from South Park

[Anonymous No.]

Still waiting for Nene to do a daycare worker RP ASMR
It'll be great, would be almost indistinguishable from her normal streams

[Anonymous No.]

I watch literal jews all day and am still bowled over by the sheer amount of Jewish content watching five minutes of shee's tiktok reaction stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210587
you murdered you pants
pants murder is punishable by washer and dryer to clean poop stain for 24 hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42211262
I didn't mean to, officer. The woman in the nun outfit cast a hex on me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42211235
Tiktok is Chinese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210587
that's her tenshi powers

[Anonymous No.]

>>42211424
We love the chinese here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210213
You can't control me by appealing to my racism.
I'm only a racist because it's a symptom of my lack of control.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42211424
I'm aware.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42211504
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>42211794
I want to burry my face in her breasts

[Anonymous No.]

>>42204424
I hope she goes indie and continues to stream, she's one of the few english asmr chubas that dont give me secondhand embarrassment, it's so unfortunate that she had to go menhera over horse and tenshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42211794
Daily mandatory listening to the official Lua theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tCMI0uKbBE

[Anonymous No.]

>we are really a very very transparent company
>there are a lot we can't say
Ok Reina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42210587
She cleansed you of your sins. Now go and sin no more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42211794
I want to rest my head in her bosom as she slowly reveals she's been stalking me and was the one who sabatoged my relationships with my family and friends and that now I only have her to rely on

[Anonymous No.]

>>42211206
This you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42211794
I kind of just want to wrap her up in one really long hug for the rest of my life

[Anonymous No.]

>>42212204
>>42211206

[Anonymous No.]

why is Shee watching so many baby tik toks? is she subconsciously telling us she wants to be impregnated (by me) and start a healthy, happy family? (with me)

[Anonymous No.]

Since management are here for damage control, I'll ask again.
BENJI YOU INCOMPETENT FUCK, WHERE ARE THE ACRYLICS RESTOCK, except for O****e's. You can keep that shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>42212401
yeah, bro

[Anonymous No.]

*cough cough* *munch munch munch* *COUGH*

[Anonymous No.]

>sucked my dick twice a week
>nearly made GFE mainstream
>never cucked me, even after she graduated
Chumshell here. I regret nothing.
>b-but the NTR horse!
>b-but the Fauna clone!
>b-but the Polka clone!
>b-but the Meno clone!
Didn’t watch. Don’t care. And don’t pretend like you did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42212017
> Management says what specific breech of terms they are firing O***** for
> Unprofessional, public shaming, dragged through the mud
> Talents don't want to aggressively spill the details and risk kicking a hornets nest of doxx posting
> Not transparent enough, hear both sides

Pick a rrat, or better yet, make a more interesting one so the threads get less shitty. Hell, I'll give you a free one. Oceane is marrying Koshita and now that she's in bed with the literal CEO she wants her public vtuber reputation as tarnished as possible to protect herself from accusations of either her or her new lover abusing their positions of power within the company.

There, it's pro-Oceane, it's equally made up as your outrage and it's actually interesting to read.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.twitch.tv/beryllerou
By the way, the gay autistic space rat has been streaming for about half an hour now.

[Anonymous No.]

i just wanted to have sex with my hot siren wife

[Anonymous No.]

>>42213803
What I don't understand is how they handle this. It is either going all out with all the evidence or just talk about the contract. Talking about "doxxing", "slandering", "mobilizing individuals" without the context will just breed more rrats.

[Anonymous No.]

Shee LOVES rats

[Anonymous No.]

>Haven't paid attention in a day
>Learned that Oceane was terminated
lol. Just lol. At least it wasn't Peony or Miryu. My guess is Sava is next.

[Anonymous No.]

They were putting up appearances just a couple weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42214985
Just show you how fake all of these are.

[Anonymous No.]

itt. retards that never worked a day in their life, think they know how companies work and that if some random individual pleases, he should have complete insight into the legal side of things.

[Anonymous No.]

From making bank to unemployed in one day, I hope my wife is doing fine

[Anonymous No.]

You boys want a rrat?
A juicy one?
A sloppy one?
You boys want my rrat?
Well here's what I was told by an old sailor Inl knew, the grizzled type, the type who swears he jerked off mermaids, 15 dollars a head under the queensboro bridge in the 90s.

Oceanes doxing is why Sava had to move in with her relatives in Norway.

[Anonymous No.]

Not a complete insight, but they basically stabbed Oceane in those streams. Rushia's termination now seems like was handled with the utmost care in hindsight. They never burn the bridge this hard no matter what she did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42215485
Because ultimately, Rushia only harmed herself, while Oceane was actively being malicious

[Anonymous No.]

>>42215485
I just wish they didn’t have to delete all her archives. I pity the cloudtomo who hasn’t heard Oceane’s kissing noises yet.

[Anonymous No.]

Did Oceane target Leti specifically? She seems to be taking it the worst out of everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42215471
>Oceanes doxing is why Sava had to move in with her relatives in Norway.
Nice shitpost m8.
Do you have some more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42215557
>Rushia only harmed herself
Is this the new angle? Why would the company fire her if she only "harmed herself"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42215824
Getting herself fired for being retarded counts as harming herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>42215640
Her channel is still up, for now. Hope you got some hard drive space and a fast network to beat them to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42215736
Probably her and Sava. They are the ones that got a lot of shit talk here by her sea schizos.

[Anonymous No.]

I watched that dramafag FalseEyeD's stream about Oceane.
He didn't really say much interesting other than that he didn't know about the no one-on-one male collab rule until the interview with Oceane, Reiny was there because they had to scramble to find an available female when it looked like his co-host wasn't going to make it.

The one noteworthy thing he said he was that he was approached by someone within Kawaii (he wouldn't say who) about a week ago about whether Oceane had tried to talk to him - she hadn't since the interview.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42208552
I noticed that pattern

[Anonymous No.]

>>42216107
Sumi wasn't even around long enough to get fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>42216049
So the company is actively trying to find dirt on Oceane but can't find any?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>even the dramanigger who collabed with Oceane threw her under the bus
I’m not sure how to feel about this. On one hand, he’s an opportunistic leech and a Keemstar wannabe, but on another, there was pretty much no other option at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42216220
>can't find any?
They obviously did or they wouldn't have fired her

[Anonymous No.]

>>42216220
Brightest dramanigger

[Anonymous No.]

>>42216329
>They obviously did
(still no proof)

[Anonymous No.]

>>42216037
it was more than just them

[Anonymous No.]

>>42216280
Having watched that stream, he's just incredibly boring. He doesn't really seem to do anything other than read tweets. He barely even comments on things.

[Anonymous No.]

Chichigami
i sware your fucking caps lock better be broke you insufferable faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>42216220
Sounds more like they thought that she would sell him the doxx info. I liked Oceane too, but you gotta face the facts. There’s no explanation for why they would go out of their way to make up an excuse to fire her from whole cloth that doesn’t make you sound like a massive schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42216049
>The one noteworthy thing he said he was that he was approached by someone within Kawaii (he wouldn't say who) about a week ago about whether Oceane had tried to talk to him - she hadn't since the interview.
Timestamp?

[Anonymous No.]

>Twittertroons in the comments spinning this drama into a “parasocial le bad” narrative
>ignoring the fact that Nene does the same thing, and hasn't had a single yab so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>42216922
>here’s no explanation for why they would go out of their way to make up an excuse to fire her from whole cloth that doesn’t make you sound like a massive schizo
I got one rrat to sell you. Her content is too similar to their flagship Nene and she is already getting some of her paypigs to her side. Nene was furious and lashed out to other girls, attributing to the "change in atmosphere" and "some girls feel like quitting". She planted her own dox here with 2 goals in mind: to frame Oceane and to funnel her paypigs to her rm if things didn't work out well. Ultimately the management kneel to their #1 to cut off their fastest growing employee.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217065
They’re just butthurt because despite all their effort (or lack thereof), they will never be women.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217035
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1725288806?t=02h24m14s

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217245
I don't think even you can read this shit you wrote without laughing schizo anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217245
Do you have any idea just how batshit fucking insane you’re sounding right now ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217065
It’s funny because you could spend an eternity sucking Mori’s dick and never receive a passing glance but make one expertly-times anti superchat and you’ll live in the bitch’s head forever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217065
because nene bans schizos and has respect for her loving cloudtomo husbands and would never weaponize us like ocean did with her fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217245
I wish I could be as stupid as you

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217065
NPCs hate lonely straight guys having any little hint of happiness in their lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42215485
O***** burned it first

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217245
Anon that's fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217245
Hilarious rrat, but no one is going to buy that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42216049
Noteworthy, maybe, but FalseEyeD is not trustworthy in the slightest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217065
>hasn't had a single yab so far
newfagchama?

>>42217245
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42207087
don't go to /gif/ bro you will regret it

[Anonymous No.]

All this talk has driven focus away from what I'm really interested in:
Lua posted her first fanbox exclusive ASMR, has anyone subscribed to it? Is it any good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217065
there's nothing wrong with GFE and going ghost it's a matter if you like a schitzo or not and it's obvious you shouldn't do that

[Anonymous No.]

>>42216221
Is this dude retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217352
Thanks. So it seems Kawaii was worried she was pulling a Rushia

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217245
plausable, nene is not someone you fuck with, she is a ruthless business woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>42218317
LOL one bitch was doxxing and slandering the talents, what does he think a company protecting the other 11 girls looks like?

[Anonymous No.]

I know this is normally seen as sacrilege, but can’t they just… recast her? Maybe get that Yugo chick that left NijiEN? I dunno man, I just don’t want that drop-dead gorgeous model lost to history forever just because it went to the wrong girl the first time.

[Anonymous No.]

was nene's doxx here really that big of a deal?
it was already posted like a year ago
heck, nobody really cared then and nobody really cared last week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42218317
Most of those trannies operate purely on emotion. This should be a great filter for all the stupid fans that they attracted.

[Anonymous No.]

What are you bringing random nobodies' comments in here for? Fuck off, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42218617
It would be wild if they released the model publicly so we can all meme on her and remove her clothes

[Anonymous No.]

>>42218717
Nene's delicious fat ass is a huge deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42218717
No, because it was obviously something else. Nene didn't even seem affected when she talked about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217245
>Multiple companies have girls that do this exact type of content
>For some reason this is different because....BECAUSE IT IS, OK!!!??????

[Anonymous No.]

>>42218717
i thought nenes pl was a open secret since she debuted, was surprised how many people didn't know

[Anonymous No.]

>>42218903
>>42218903
>>42218903
Dumbos are not allowed in new bread

[Anonymous No.]

>>42218073
I really want to know when the invasion of /gif/ started, because it used to be a pretty decent nsfw board. You go there now and its
>40 black on whatever threads
>maybe 4 or 5 white/asian on whatever
>webms that make you want to suck dick
>ylyl to fight the blacked spam but its just the same stuff posted ad nauseam which only makes the spammers post even more
>decent threads are all on page 9 or 10 with maybe 100 posts
mods have pretty much abandoned the place and let it fall to ruin

[Anonymous No.]

>>42219335
This has been a very mentally ill website in general since /pol/tards took over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42217978
what has he lied about or done to be untrustworthy

[Anonymous No.]

>>42219641
he is a drama leech that will say and report on anything for views and probably hates you because he is a ironic weeb type

[Anonymous No.]

>>42219856
So he hasn't actually done anything to show he's untrustworthy, you just don't like him? You're free not to, I don't either, but I have no reason to believe he's lying because to my knowledge he hasn't before.