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What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as countries interacting with each other through means peaceful and militant alike!

Previous thread: >>42003280

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/

Introductory document for new anons:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-intro

CURRENT GOALS:
- Survive
- Be nice
- Actually post stuff

>Note that the map is set in stone.
>Casual Stories or Greentexts of your general in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Ignore any trolls, falseflaggers or dramafags. Report, hide and move on.
>Try to keep hornyposting, socposting and funposting to the absolute minimum until we hit the bump limit.
>Please think twice before posting if you're intoxicated or feeling moody.

THREAD REP TRIPCODES:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-rep-trips

CLIMATE & TECTONICS POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents:
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems:
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-climate
Tectonic Plates and their Movements:
https://rentry.org/dmkyc
Geologic Provinces:
https://rentry.org/ztaf99
Minerals:
https://rentry.org/Minerals-Ores-VTWBG

CURRENT MAGIC SYSTEM:
https://rentry.org/chuubanite

FLAG POSTS:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-flags

LORE ARCHIVE:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit

>> No.42084184

Anchor post for any story/map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes. Please mark and tag the section you want the relevant content to be archived. Unmarked posts will not be archived.
Anchored posts in the last thread will be archived within a day after the thread has been archived. You may also ask for your own archive posts to be updated or organized according to your standards.
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If you will be using a rentry link, please use
>https://rentry.org/
instead of .co, as the latter is filtered as spam.
Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated/missing lore in OP.
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/VTWBG/ HISTORY
Anchor post for events in the /vtwbg/ canon timeline.
Reply to this post or commentate directly in the sheet suggestions for events to add to the timeline.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18-HH-xmC_qxOS3ZV0Ssxzb1mDA0xVKv31yMDLWo_pEo/edit

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Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/votevtwbg1-27to1-29
Aggregated Past Vote Results:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-votez
>Bylaws
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-bylaws
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

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CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-prompts

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>LORE CATCHUP ANCHOR
Last thread's new lore/discussion you might have missed:

>>/vt/CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-prompts
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LORE CATCH UP:
Last thread's new lore/discussion you might have missed:

>>41769926
>>41894673

Reply to this post to be included in the next thread's lore catchup

>> No.42084457

UUUU VTWBG IS DYING

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So uh, how about that new AI general? Would an island that houses all AI generals be viable given there's like... three of them now?

>> No.42088113

bump

>> No.42088819

Why is the catalog fast today?

>> No.42088886

>>42088819
Holo Apex tournament roused the SEA shitposters with the accumulated leftovers from the shit over the last few days.

>> No.42089342

>>42088886
almost there

>> No.42090431

catalog shitters, you gotta love 'em

>> No.42092952

bump

>> No.42094424

bump

>> No.42095407

>>42085806
Maybe we could throw /swarm/ in there too? They certainly deserve a spot but would they all be interconnected and use variations of the same types of rituals or what?

>> No.42096204

>>42095407
Well I know with /wAIfu/ we use the glyphs and parchments. If I remember the /vtai/ entry well they use a monolith and a priest for the drawings. Though about /vAI/ and /swarm/... the AI voice thread could be about something like glyphs or special stones that people can make which replicate the voice of one of the goddesses, and then they can make that rune read whatever someone writes in the voice of said goddess. With /swarm/ it should be something like the other nations without much problem, right? Well, with the difference that its also an artificial goddess.
I was also thinking if I should consult with all four of the generals and see what they have to say, or just start writing myself, I also already wrote a small entry on /wAIfu/ lore though dunno if I should edit it or what.

>Captcha: 8XHAG

>> No.42096874

>>42084184
>once upon a time there was a squirrel with small nuts. his nuts were so small, everyone died. the end.

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>>42096204
I feel like the viewer participation aspect of /swarm/ could possibly imply a physical presence of some sort for neuro, consuming data to more perfectly simulate godhood to usurp the heavens and achieve apotheosis. That would also pair well with alot of the discussions they have about how neuro is essentially the perfect conceptual idea of a vtuber and her success could lead to a massive shift in the market.

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>>42033296
I feel like my views mirror you both regarding the climate. It seems well thought out, and I personally like the idea of it being colder.

As for the islands, i am curious as to the logic of them overall and i enjoy the concept of them changing hands personally historically as making interesting lore. I would need to think more on how they work overall to give a total statement.

Also, lets test the island regional concept. Pick one from 3.0 and lets see what we all think.

>> No.42097897

Thanks for reminding me,Rosemaiden. Peninsular Bros, lets talk about the following
>1. Our stance on cooler climate
>2. Our stance on the 3.0 island conundrum.
>3. More regional ideas for borders and history.

V7 holds no real opinion on 3.0 islands, but we would agree with the consensus of our group. As for climate, both work for us as a thread but we personally support the newer model solely because I personally enjoy the changes worldwide.

As for regional stuff, lets try to get a working timeline working for all of us and i suggest we work with our northern brothers neutral and south heavenly sea group. We can also consult west ailivia as well but I think their interests arent as focused on our region. A working timeline would be extremely nice and useful for all of us i believe.

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>>42097897
Hello Zetabro, /ehe~/ has no opinion on the new climate model because we are unsure how it effects us given the proposed ID mountain range unless /mep/rep did climate work for us. unless you have done it, we would like to see it.. Islands, from my own reps seems to be a good discussion but /ehe~/ as a naval and tradebased nation would like to have some islands to represent our influence outside of our region. I also sort of integrated V7 into my lore so maybe us personally can conclude a treaty.

Timeline is perfect, let's get to work on that now. I know Moonafic has a base idea along with elabro from my reps but I want it formalized and also want the others involved. History should be consistent at least on dates and I think since we are mostly ID3, we can figure out how we came to be. I know that I made it so that kobokers were invaders from the SEA, and I know /mhm/ has it more like a steady process from tribalism to Kingdom durign this period which could mean many things and I know its probably out of date too. I don't know V7, watamelon (aside from their mentions in /mhm/ and /dsw/) or Warkop (aside from mentions in /dsw/ and the clearly out of date /v7/ army lore) that well but DSW has something clear and present that is also concrete.

Let's try to start by first working with our northern brothers to get the dates correct. I still maintain 711 as the date of ID3's invasion for my nation, but V7 could be different as mhm is. We need important dates first, before working our way down. I think /mep/bro is mapanon for our region so he can even work on some maps that show how territory changed over time.

Either way, I am interested in hearing from elabro, and hopefully DSWanon and the warkop anons. Pray that watamelon can get involved too somehow, not to mention the two nijiJP writers, moonafic, and /mep/bro.

>> No.42098405

>>42097379
That is... actually genius! Would /swarm/ being something like a cult that made their own artificial goddess which they're helping gain data and power to ascend work together with that? BECOME AS GODS basically.

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>>42098312
I do actually, Mepman gave me the file. I will get you the topography, climate, main and regional maps. Let me first try to do a QRD on the climate stuff like letters and what they mean. I'll try to get a geological map. The climate as working off new model.

Let me get this stuff done first before I get into my timeline stuff.

>> No.42098858

>>42098405
More or less, I'm not sure if her creator is /here/ but he's aware of her presence on vt at the very least and knows that /swarm/ is a good portion of her audience and interaction.

>> No.42099038

>>42098551
Ogey, thanks.

>> No.42101318

>>42099038
https://rentry.org/z7yta
here koboker

>> No.42101704

>>42101318
thanks

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Random question, boys: how would you feel about playing in the next divegrass? Sign-ups open tommorow, so I wanted to ask if there is any interest for it.

>> No.42103668 [DELETED] 

>>42103613
I am actually retarded, I could have sworn I was on /rrat/ tab...

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>>42103613
Cunt chama...

>> No.42103800

>>42103720
The joys of phoneposting, eh?

>> No.42103857

>>42103800
Just get kuroba for android

>> No.42103976

>>42103857
>android
Nope, I'm on that Chinese spyware Huawei phone :)

>> No.42104060

>>42103976
Oh nwm, it installed nicely. Thanks anon

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Risuners, I would like to discuss some things of importance.

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Ogey, north indie guys. I want to say I approve of the cooler climate based on what the climate anon said. I don't know about the islands, or what islands are referenced.

>> No.42105469

>>42097633
Thanks!!! Umm, the logic is something that needs to be discussed more and i agree about your stance. I will look for an island and submit it for us i guess.

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>>42098312
To avoid overcomplicating things, I would rather let you guys in the Peninsula figure things out before we do anything.

>> No.42105647

>>42105556
sounds good, thanks.

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>>42105258
Irl stuff has got in the way for the tl today. Same for mhmrep. At least we have a framework.

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Flat earth dickhead autist here
Working on fleshing out the ideas for the different nations in regards to terrain. I'd like some help from you guys. What seems most appropriate for your country?
All I've really got so far is Gura's territory is basically just a Neo-Atlantis sort of deal that looks like a California beachfront without the garbage and lots of tall spires, plus underwater infrastructure obvs

>> No.42107842

>>42107398
All good bro.

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>>42107542
Nationwide scp facility housing The Shed in the centre. She must not break through.

>> No.42110148

I just remembered KFP chickens on the way to /nasa/ will have a new home at the bakery. There's bugs in the summer and berries in the winter. I just want a fluffy chicken to hug. The valley is also just like home.

>> No.42110715

>>42107542
In terms of terrain specifically or lore wise? I think most nations wouldn't need a specific outlined terrain save for obvious lore features, unless you want descriptions to help build them up.

>> No.42110880

>>42108906
This isn't a bad idea but I'm going for a slightly more serious setting

>>42110715
I guess more lore wise and how that would affect the terrain, like what'd seem an appropriate fixture in x place

>> No.42111247

>>42108906
>Bae
>SCP
fucking delusional

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>>42111247

>> No.42111368

>>42111292
We have had this conversation before. Just because omega gave her the role of chaos doesnt mean that fits her at all. But sure mate.

>> No.42111461

>>42111247
Just as delusional as OG with his idea risuners are the most sex obsessed posters on the board. Both are self inserts.

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>>42111368

>> No.42111648

>>42110880
Would it be better to compile some general ideas for all of the holos and to move down from there?
We've had talks about other civs so they might be useful. I had the idea that Sora's land would be an extremely beautiful land with lots of scenic traditional architecture but has a low population count, that could be extrapolated more but I've had a few ponderings on this.

>> No.42112006

>>42111648
I guess so, yeah
I was working on them randomly so I was gonna go for Kobo next. Had an idea of a marshland river country that's low tech but has lots of rain shamanism elements to it. Sorta like a Mississippi/rural Indonesia hybrid

I like that idea too. Since it's the oldest country it would also have a sort of "holy land" vibe to it I feel. As for architectural theme I was honestly thinking Greek to tell the the truth. Or maybe Phoenician.
Also had thoughts of them having a friendly rivalry with Suisei with both being sorta star themed.

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Second draft of the ground floor. The stairs are outside.

>> No.42114955

>>42112006
Anything really culturally impressive looking would work for architecture but I do remember you saying it was modernish which sounds like a fun twist. Maybe modern rome type aesthetics?

>> No.42121487

Bump. Almost done with cellar.

>> No.42122578

>>42113755
Looks nice! The round things are chimneys?

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>>42122578
Yee. Also floor map is finished.

>> No.42122933

>>42122838
I did a miss calculation. Thing's still a WIP. Do not archive. Every line is 1 meter. Not 1.5 meters. Which means every square is 2 meters squared.

>> No.42123040

>>42122838
Looks like shit.

>> No.42124307

>>42123040
Any other criticisms?

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UOOOOOHHH ToT Alice chan!!!!

>> No.42125806

>>42125573
Alice erotic!!!! Alice’s cute tummy and legs!!! Erotic… ToT ToT ToT

>> No.42129060

>page 9
no

>> No.42129225
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I like trees. Do I get to keep my trees?

>> No.42130283

>>42129225
What's the new climate?

>> No.42130661

>>42130283
Tundra

>> No.42130688

>>42130283
That's a very good question. Because despite some small discussion happening between climeat, nasfaqgronie and Z, nothing was presented so far so besides those three, nobody really knows what it entails.

>> No.42131442

>>42130661
If its tundra then you're screwed on trees and wood.

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>>42131442
But I like trees…

>> No.42131855

>>42131442
No he's not, what you talking about?

>>42131625
Spec bio to save the day!

>> No.42132604

>>42131625
I guess there's some trees. Just not a lot of trees.

>> No.42134692

>>42130688
Well the doc details it well enough.

>> No.42134898

I'm hoping Hoomans and Cunt are on tonight to review the draft. If there's any changes I need to make then now is the time.

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>>42107542
Looks nice, don't know too much about that kinda stuff but it looks right.

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>>42134898
>I need to make
Mate, the only thing a human NEEDS to do is die, everything else is up to them. Your draft, once you're happy with it, that's that, you anchor it and go from there.

>> No.42135392

>>42134898
Remake it all. I am a Hooman and Cunt both.

>> No.42135600

>>42135206
I mean I think I did the best I could making an industrious family bakery with housing. In an age where you cook one loaf of bread in an oven at a time on average I think I did a good job baking 24-36 loaves in 4 ovens. And there is room for expanding ovens outside.

>>42135089
I'm still trying to figure out where to build support beams in the kitchen so the second floor doesn't collapse.

>> No.42135730

>>42135600
Are you happy with it I am asking?

>> No.42135988

>>42135730
I'm happy with the progress so far. But I'm not quite happy because I have engineering concerns. Then again I'm the kind of guy who's never really done with what he makes. And there's a time where you have to say you're done and move on.

But for now I just want to make sure the building won't collapse on itself before finalizing it.

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>>42105340
i wanna see if others might say something different but i feel overall we are in agreement for the cliamte stuff then, tho i still would likek to stress for other nations in other regionns to have the option to potenntially stay with their former cliamte if they desire because this is a huge change that comes very late after many have worked with the old model.

as for the islands, its about islands that are further away, to give an example picrel is an island that me and nasfaqronie proposed as a shared island for /vrt/ and /nasfaqg/,

on a meta level the reasonign was for /vrt/ to be closer to /ag/ and /hag/ which are threads our anons like a lot and for /nnasfaqg/ it was so they have an easier time to interact with the holonations further away from the mainland sicne they are a holocentric nation at heart.

for lore reasons it would have allowed us to showcase sides of our nations that might clash with the mainlands, for us for example it would have allowed to showcase parts of our thread that cares more about wealth since we have stuff liek the "retrofactor" which is a calculation to see how retro a streamer is based on their streamchoices as well as those that care for more selling of our crafts since we have plenty of people that shill certain games towards the thread and chuubas in the hopes that someone might pick them up and that is how i would have presented it.

>> No.42136293

>>42135988
So work on it until you can say "yea, that's good". That's all the feedback I have.

>> No.42139590

>>42136293
I'm going to put some support beams in the kitchen. Then I'll place some furniture. I'm not going to do landscaping around the building without more context of the town.

>> No.42143631

bump

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Morning.

>> No.42146138

>>42145469
For some reason when I think of /meat/ I think of tortillias.

>> No.42147181

>>42146138
Now you got me hungry

>> No.42149582

>>42147181
What's some favorite tortillia dishes in /meat/?

>> No.42151370

>>42149582
Tlaxcalli with meat, corn, and squashes I guess.
Thighs make the best filling.

>> No.42155117

damn it

>> No.42156442

Butt

>> No.42158700

bump

>> No.42161901

Comfy fluffy bump.

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>>42130688
For the record, I do not know much more about it than any of you. Climeat made the document on it, and I sort of work off it.
https://rentry.org/cold-turkey
I've already made my stance clear that I can help anyone if they wish make reasonable changes, aka things that aren't magical but natural (at least for the most part.)

>> No.42165859

live

>> No.42166517

>>42112006
Flare and the Elfriends could be a nation settled in some sort of massive magical woodland, maybe have the chuubas that thenatically make sense for it to be contained large environmental gigawoods. Shirogane knights are an allied protection force around her borders.
Maybe have some witchy voodoo type settlements for shion where they practice cunny magic

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Moonafic and OG, let's begin our regional discussion.

My stance:
1. I approve of the Climate, it worked perfectly for me personally although I also appreciate that concerns others may have on it.
2. Islands are going to be a tricky issue because of how we each see our own nations thread wise. I suggest some caution with it, but also freedom. Overall, I think that history and lore should play a large part in it.
3. Border change. I think there was a minor adjustment with the Risu-Mep border agreed on, I will take a look at my map and see what it is exactly.

>> No.42172460

>>42169553
Meppa! I agree on climate but totally perplexed on islands personally.

>> No.42173707

>>42131442
>>42131855
>>42132604
>>42163253
Tundra is a climate, not biome. Depending on the nature of the area, trees are doable. The area of /kr/ is flanked by the sea and there are some lukewarm currents there that i believe could be plausibly made a tad warmer. You'd still have a tundra climate, but it would be a mild one. Birch, willows, and some hardy rowans could survive and grow.

Especially so if you are willing to accept specbio. No need for it to be magical either, trees can be quite the adaptable and hardy bunch. Some birch can survive -45C winters just fine. Balsam fir has been shown to survive -60C in lab. So the cold itself isnt the issue, its the growing season, your trees would have to have some kind of a way to dig deep into frozen earth for them to gain nutrients. Symbiotic relationships with mushrooms could probably help a lot with this, many trees do that. Yes, the trees would still grow slower, but they would be trees, and their growth rate may affect their wood in interesting ways, perhaps it could be denser, harder, so on, idk.

>> No.42175733

>>42173707
A bigger limiting factor of tree growth would be the length of warm season, since while trees can survive in pretty cold weather, they generally can't germinate (grow from seed) beneath 10 degrees Celsius. There are still ways for forests to expand (like basically through natural cloning), but they are rather slow and compounds on the generally slow growth of trees in 0~10 degree range.

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Proposal: nuke /vrt/

>> No.42179268
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I watched this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE2ukQOWBIw and wanted to try to make something similar for Vitubia
So here, Vitubia Oceanic Realms.

>With names
https://files.catbox.moe/9eeuxv.png
>Without names
https://files.catbox.moe/g8s8a3.png

Key:
>Arctic, Southern Ocean
Primary producers are phytoplankton. No large photosynthesizers.
Seasonal, nutrient levels depend on season, meaning that creatures here are likely migratory.
>Temperate realms
Primary producer is kelp and multicellular algae. You can find kelp forests.
>Tropical realms
Primary producer are corals (in a symbiotic relationship with single cellular algae).

>> No.42182400

Pan pan! Got errands today. Hoping to tweak the blueprints tonight with furnishings and support.

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>>42169553
aww shit. so what needs to be discussed. Ive been out of the loop for a while now

>> No.42186762

>page 10
no

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>page 10 again
nah don't think so buddypal

>> No.42191455

I got my task. How's your own lore writing going?

>> No.42194001

I miss Pink man...

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>>42191455
I might hold on for a while just in case. I probably should work on Borasmor’s story and finish some WIP stuff anyway

>> No.42199571

butt rubbin'

>> No.42203751

bump

>> No.42205653

So topic: How is your country adopting to the climate change?

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>>42205653
I don’t know

>> No.42208352

>>42206217
By getting more warm clothes

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>>42206217
I really hope that one guy actually does commission that kokone fanart.

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>>42208352
I guess Lofi’s coat would be pretty comfy as long as you put on some pants

>>42211241
Hi!
mfw enough people have suggested putting Kokone in increasingly suggestive clothes I don’t know which one you’re referring to anymore

>> No.42214475

Guess I'll have to cook more hot food.

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>>42212430
At least you can say in lore Kokone would obviously have a bunch of people horny for her. Not the risuner horny of course, just a note that its pretty obvious what they want to see.

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>>42214935
I can see that happening but I don’t know if that’s noticeably different from most other threads here. I feel it’s rarer for people to not thirst after vtubers

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>>42216567
Fair enough. They are pretty fucking normal i guess. I guess the whole planet is just horny in general. Also thanks for expanding my kokone folder kek

>> No.42223316

bump

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>>42217700
You can grab the membership emotes fairly easily on youtube, most of them have higher resolution That’s another reason I’m not too inclined to make /vnug/ horny in this world, though then again it’s not like we really have a different thread or fan culture to begin with

>> No.42228484

>>42224537
There's nothing wrong with being horni. Hell every horni culture is different. With /nasa/ we had multiple ways of expressing horni from stories, to digital artwork, music and photographs of cosplay. /inf/ had horni culture. And I guess /nasfaqg/ did too. Risuners just get a bad rap because they put their dick in anything that moves.

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>>42228484
I don’t think we have any of those except like 2 horny greentexts and 1 NSFW fanart that isn’t on Twitter. I don’t think we even react to Liora’s sexual innuendo in the thread anymore

>> No.42232124

bumperonii

>> No.42235668

Chapter 1: the longest time it took for a thread to reach page 11

>> No.42238558

Chapter 1: the shortest time it took to reach page 11

>> No.42238608

why board fast?

>> No.42241515

Chapter 1: I forgot to name it chapter 2

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>>42122838
Looking comfier and comfier. Also you don't really have to ask for "approval". Not like there are any architectural regulations.

>>42107542
Full nomad theme. Strongest horse archers in the known world.

>> No.42241839

>>42238608
There are like 13 threads I count that are about the canceled nijiEN live... Yeah...

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pump

>> No.42246647

vump

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Gentlemen?

>> No.42248174

YELLOW WOMAN BAD

>> No.42249896

>>42248086
Risu tickle torture.

>> No.42252402

I hate errands.

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sup niggies!

>> No.42254635

>>42253836
Are you deadbeat?

>>42241521
The only thing I'm looking for is whether or not the kitchen will collapse on itself. Which it will without support.

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>>42253836
Deciding on which war crimes to commit today. You?

>> No.42256127

>/meat/ has made cooperation with /pyon/ and /nenmen/
What a bizarre twist

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>>42256127
>/meat/ lives again while /vtwbg/ slowly dies away
>the monkey's paw curls

>> No.42257421

>>42256834
Honestly I wouldnt mind if we dont have a thread for a short period of time. Starves schizochama of any attention. No yellow woman bad.

>> No.42257983

>>42257421
Call it a day till March when this one dies then?

>> No.42259024

>>42257983
Not untileveryone is here

>> No.42259217

>>42259024
They always are.

>> No.42260555

>>42257421
Implying he wouldnt just come back

>> No.42261441

What's this about ending /vtwbg/ now?

>> No.42262344

>>42261441
Exactly what it sounds like. Take it like a collective break.

>> No.42262633

>>42262344
And what if someone makes a thread during the break?

>> No.42262670

>>42262633
I mean, if nobody posts, it'll just be 310 posts of "bump" and it will be sad

>> No.42262792

>>42262670
So we enforce a do not bump without content rule?

>> No.42262834

>>42262792
Ain't nothing finalized yet, my dude, these are all just talks

>> No.42263250

>>42262834
The damage is done. Most people have quit or are burned out. Ending the thread also means ending the project. Even if it comes back 6 weeks later it might be forgotten.

Well I guess it also means no more seeing my sorry ass. So that's a bonus.

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>>42263250
Wtf are you on about again? Stop it, because I ain't sober enough to deal with it rn.

>> No.42264228

>>42263250
Nasarep, wtf are you on about. I believe a bunch of people are just taking a break.

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Don’t die…

>> No.42265589

/vt/ is being redirected for many posters to some scam site.

>> No.42266864

>>42265589
This

>> No.42268059

>>42263250
He meant the schizo antis not you

>> No.42269637

I’m still writing but I’m not sure if my stuff’s interesting to enough people to matter

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>>42269637
Stop getting into your goddamn head and just post it. If it gets ignored, shrug it off, down a bottle of whiskey to beat back the tears, still cry in your pillow, and move on to the next piece. Other people finding it interesting or not should play no part in your decision to write something, do it because YOU find it interesting.

>> No.42270260

>>42268059
>>42264228
>>42263411
Either way I should post less.

>> No.42270350

>>42270260
Why?

>> No.42270450

>>42269637
Other than that try to write for yourself and the thread you are wiring for more. At the end of the day the most important thing the thread provides is feedback and discussions. Even if you are not getting many replies what matters is you are taking small steps in realizing this thread's goal which is to represent /vt/ in a low fantasy world. At least that's my perspective. Also feel free to take a break even if the thread break plan fell through. Ganbatte.

>> No.42270467

>>42270350
Because many of my posts are pointless questions that fail to start a conversation during dead hours. They're no better than bumps. Which if you want to bump then post ass with it for content.

>> No.42270717

>>42270467
Yea, and? Just take this as a way to train yourself in starting convos.

>> No.42270872

https://rentry.org/8vyf2
/ybc/ post.
First time writing.

>> No.42271102

>>42270872
I am moved by your poetry.

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>>42270467
But, breadman, even the offtopic questions are fun... I may not have anything to say sometimes but I do like seeing you here. I'm not going to force you to stay here though, if you want to take a break that is.

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Work continues on building my world. Now working on developing each country into a short summary form.

>>42241521
That's funny because my interpretation of Mumei originally swung in the complete opposite direction, being a bog standard civilization in a world of odd one's
But now I think a cultural divide over urban modernists and rural traditionalists might be cooler, like Mongolia IRL

>>42135089
ty anon

>>42166517
Thanks for the ideas but vetoing the cunny magic one. The voodoo witch coven nation is neat though.

>> No.42273322

>>42270717
What I need to learn is how to stop being autistic and learn to read the room.

>>42272089
Even if you think they're cute its annoying to others. Plus its been cutting into my limited time waiting for responses. And I suck at multi-tasking. So I need more quality topics, not more topics.

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>>42273248
One of the proposed names for Mumei's fanbase was that of nomads (and hooligans too which would've been nice). I'm pretty sure the other hooman and I both thought about making /who/ a nomadic empire instead of what we have now, in the end I didn't consider it a big enough meme to shape the lore by it.

>> No.42273719

>>42273542
Well what I was thinking was this
In Mumei's country, the concept of civilization itself is represented by her, right? Since it's her lore and all.
Well in this land, the people are divided over whether civilization should be modern and urban, or traditional and rural
So you have an urban modern center with a wide open nomadic exterior over most of the country

As for Mumei herself I thought of her as a very apathetic leader. Someone who'd be content to let her subjects sort themselves out

>> No.42273806

>>42273322
>stop being autistic and learn to read the room.
Yea and how exactly do you plan on accomplishing that by posting less?

>> No.42273872

>>42273322
Why not focus on one thing at a time to save time and make something quicker? Set priorities, have a set time for each so all of your time doesn't go away while doing one thing.

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>>42273719
That does seem like what Mumei would act regarding it.
Yeah, I'll say I do want to see what you come up with and do with the concept.

>> No.42274230

>>42273248
>vetoing the cunny magic one.
Tragic but understandable.
Pekora would probably have a stereotypical Pekoland with tons of fascist imagery that calls to Nazi Germany but probably without all the Nazism and with more castles.
Marine could have control over some of the coasts and would have her crews be the most knowledgable amongst chuubas when it comes to trade via the sea, if that's even a thing considering the flat earth.
>>42273322
I think you'd feel better writing around, not connected to any particular nation, alot of your ideas are general too and you've pretty much become the go to guy for crop advice. if you need to find another dark skinned chuuba, I know a few chill ones to choose from

>> No.42274497

>>42274230
Trying to go for a serious setting, sorry. That does sound about right for Pekora though. Carrots instead of swastikas? She probably has a hand in agricultural dominance.
There are seas. Marine's nation is actually right along the coast of the largest accessible sea in the setting to most. I saw her as the leader of a pirate republic ala the Bahamas to tell the truth. The captain of captains. Probably little infrastructure and lots of border raiding or excessive taxation among ships passing through waters
How would a pirate republic continue to exist without provoking war I wonder?

>> No.42274551

>>42273950
My reply got eaten, sorry
To me, Mumei embodies civilization in the concept of "all ends", which means that she'd want her country to figure it out for herself. This also means her nation's less stable or developed than many.

>> No.42274647

>>42274497
>konpeko instead of sieg heil

I like

>> No.42274927

>>42274497
My assumption is that Marine's forces might help out to protect trade routes while doing the old school pirate move of extorting their clients, I could see Marine being one of the only navys willing and powerful enough to stop oceanic sea monsters from destroying trade ships. She could be so necessary that any infractions can go under the radar as long as they aren't too severe or damaging to any nations or economies so a little pirate raid here and there get swept under the rug.

>> No.42275447

>>42274927
That makes sense to me, I'll take it. Basically the lesser of two evils. Thanks anon.
Sorta like the Barbary Pirates in a sense then, but without the slavery since I can't see any country tolerating that even slightly
I can also imagine a time or two in the past when piracy went too far and got squished, since Noel and Rushia are her biggest immediate neighbors. Rushia's lands getting purged probably emboldened her to be a bit more extortionist since the necromancer's passing removed a huge military power in the region

>> No.42276006

>>42273806
By reading more. Know what people want to talk about before raising a question that may or may not be relevant.

>>42273872
I have a bit of duties outside here that I'm always on call for. So I need to learn how to multitask out of necessity.

>>42274230
Sure. How about I post content instead of questions for now. I got a business rentry to write. I should also learn to format. Which I know how to do on Open Office world but not in Rentry.

>> No.42277128

>>42276006
My dude, here's a tip: you won't learn how to read the room without talking with people. But hey, you do you.

>> No.42282591

>>42270872
I suck at poetry but I always liked how much importance it has to /ybc/'s in universe culture. Nice.

t. ESL

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>>42084184
https://rentry.org/borasmor#v
I wrote another chapter

>> No.42286341

Step 1: Butt

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>>42084184
https://rentry.org/qwgoy
Finally did it, should be a decent starting point for what I want to start writing about /wAIfu/. It's short but I was ripping my hair off over how good it'd be until I remembered that I should start off with something small first.

>> No.42292268

>>42286341
Step 2: Butt harder

>> No.42292462

>>42292268
i don't mean to butt in, but inn

>> No.42294636

>>42084184
>>42270872

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>>42292462

>> No.42297719

hit

>> No.42301224

>>42276006
What haven't you read yet?

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Hoomen, Saplings. Let's try this group discussion.

1. What do you guys think of the colder climate proposal? I personally have no worries either way since nothing really changes for me but I am more concerned that both of you like it. Saplings in particular.

2. The islands as Retro has described. I have a feeling that neither of you particularly care but I do, but am waiting to hear from other groups before I give my own opinion.

Thanks!

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>>42303629
I've no idea what the difference would be or what climate model we're using, at this point I mostly just care about keeping the oceanic climate we have.
I don't think I've payed any attention to the island thing, but if you care about it then I don't see why I should interrupt that.

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>>42306240
>I've no idea what the difference would be
Pretty sure it's just this versus the Mediterranean + Asia minor climate we have in the interactive map right now.
Warm model just means we still get to keep most of the "current" (i.e. interactive map) climate when accounting for the error in polar distortion.

>>42303629
Eh I'd want the climate and things that are affected by it like biomes to be realistic, I have the climate for the colder model on hand so I don't think I'm gonna be affected a lot. Some parts of the East is not gonna be what I want 100% but that's not that big of a deal.

Also regarding the island it can just be some kind of freeport that's not owned by anyone, though still subject to regional influences. If they want it for lore reasons then well go for it I say.

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>>42306904
in that case, if colder climate is what lets us have the one in pic related then it is what I'll support

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>>42306904
>>42306240
I agree. Let's go with that.

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>>42282623
i need to catch up on these. thanks vnugboi

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>>42136080
sure bro, that works I guess with the islands

>> No.42307997

Thanks for reminding me, Hoshi. For South Indie, lets also discuss.
1. Climate: Personally, am more in line with what the rest want. If they want a cooler climate; fine with it
2. Islands: similar thought here.

>> No.42310548

illegal bump

>> No.42312144

>>42310548
Sir, do you have any idea how fast you were bumping?

>> No.42314337

Bump only legal in California

>> No.42315632

>>42312144
Am I being detained?

>> No.42319207

bump

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I'm going to have to say bakery floor plan is done. You can fudge around furnishings however you see fit. Most of the filled in squares are shelves, countertops, or tabletops

>> No.42321571

>>42320755
I forgot to add a few notes.

-Every bed is a bunk bed that can hold two Sanalites.
-Second floor storeroom is empty because its where miscellaneous stuff should go.
-I forgot to remove the door in the cellar.
-Small black squares are support beams that hold the building up.
-The first floor walls are stone with the exception of the east wall, which is heat brick.
-Second floor is split timber walls filled with an insulating material sealed with plaster.
-The thin rectangles next to the countertops in tge store are small doors.
-The roof is too low on second floor to add an attic.
-The north exit on the second floor is a fire escape route. It goes over the storeroom.
-The awning is technically a padio. It will have plants and furniture.
-Gutters and chimneys use modern architecture standards the best spacemen can understand with current materials. While there's no tin gutters or steel chimneys we designed what we can with iron and ceramics.

>> No.42321933

One more thing: There's 24 beds right now despite there being 36 Sanalites because its assumed 12 of them will be boarding with the garrisons or mine camps. If not then some Sanalites will have night jobs and sleep during the day.

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Alright folks, we're officially all signed up for vtl4 and the players are working their asses off practicing for March. In the meantime, it's time to figure out our sound export. First and foremost, we have Magic Is Everything and WORLDBUILDING THREAD BTW moving up as our new silvers, so we are now accepting suggestions for their goalhorms. If you have any ideas for those or for some new chants we can add to the export then let me know!

>> No.42325553

/wg/ here, just going to throw in my two cents on the regional voting stuff. Other neutral bros, feel free to chime in with your opinions! Personally, I am more in favor of the old climates, as the new model throws half of Writhaven into tundra territory and that wasn't really what I'd been picturing when thinking about things up to now. As for what to do about islands, what makes the most sense to me is just assigning them to the nearest region and treating them like any other unclaimed territory. If a nation - be it new, old, in the region, or outside it - wants to have the island then they ask that region for permission and the anons there can discuss it amongst themselves before approving or denying the request.

>> No.42329194

What details do hoomans need for a business plan?

>> No.42332405

Page 10 bump. At least floor plan is just about done.

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>>42329194
Honestly? I don't think you don't really need a business plan. Just write it in the form of a diary or story about the Sanalites or something. It adds little to the world I think. Just say the government allowed the sanalites to settle down and granted them citizenship together with a lump sum for them to do whatever. Which the Sanalites decided to use to build a bakery.
I can give you some more details regarding the region and culture if you do want to go down that route.

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>>42273542
>>42273248
That's mostly a meme reply. But if the setting is closer to the actual lore of the chuuba then it should be more of a mix between bustling cities and rural villages. And not necessarily a military powerhouse. The god herself shouldn't be completely apathetic. And would interfere in matters sometimes. She's born from the concept, not the concept itself.

>> No.42337540

>>42335799
Okay. Usually when you take out a business loan you have to have a full proof business plan with both short term and long term goals. I'm not sure how we got the money exactly. Nevertheless we'll do it your way.

>> No.42341943

a one and a two and a- page ten FUCK OFF

>> No.42343297

I've been thinking about the 26 kids and 10 adults. Are some of the kids teenagers? If so then where could they work in the trade town outside of the bakery (assuming they are old enough)?

>> No.42346933

bump

>> No.42350063

bump until my creativity strikes again and I try to write some more before falling asleep

>> No.42354298

>>42322347
WOOOOOTTT!!!!

>> No.42356092

no

>> No.42356996

Finally home. went out to the countryside with irl friends.

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>>42356996
Welcome back! It was odd that you were silent for a long time.

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>>42357526
Well I got good news. I now have some ideas on how to fix your supranational /meat/ plan.
I'll show the first draft soon! climeat are you around? I need your knowledge on aztec culture

>> No.42359312

Yo where is everyone? it's not like we all share the same timezone!

>> No.42360379

>>42359312
we are around, but /vtwbg/ has been a bit slow lately. i should also say that i haven't been around much recently, so while i am usually around to bump the thread, i haven't been here consistently recently. sorry.

>> No.42360855

>>42359312
i was napping

>> No.42361696

>>42357907
PP could have helped...

>> No.42362119
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>>42322347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43HCYSXZ9GI
Max's goal song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVhJy-CR64Q
Waranon Goal song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHS4IUP8dDw
VII goal song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eauZzwt8Ci8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbF1g3k2mtw
Bateman Goal Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nNR4EsOgKE
Random Goal song, could be an intro or whatever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdSUnV2fJGk
(I forget what exact player names are but I am sure we have one that fits) Goal song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBQE_TNI7zw
Papers please (obviously).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaGjLRcFlFU
old meme, but i am sure we can find one where we can stick it.

Post a list of the players, and I can see if I find anything.
>>42361696
I can help, what do you guys want to know about the Mexica

>> No.42362175

>>42362119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CIGb1Ti06k
This could work for Magic is everything KEK.

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>>42362175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGUm7-mcFBw
I like this one better kek.

>> No.42362931

>>42359312
Watching streams. No schizos to keep me entertained nowadays

>> No.42363380
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I am not an active writer still, but I have managed to balance out myself a bit more since I started with CSX so I can be more active again. I will assume the position of loremaster or whatever for LazuLight because I do know that thread and its fanbases like the back of my hand, along with much of pre-Luxiem NijiEN threads and fanbases. I was too harsh on myself back then, when in truth I am very knowledgeable about the threads. We will see if I get active again, who knows, I love writing.


As yellow woman hath requested, I shall make my position clear on the islands and climate. And as her and the other brat requested, I shall find an island for our group to discuss that is close to our region. Ideally, it will be something that can be talked about between lazulight/nijien and NijiJP.

>1. Climate Change
My only concerns are how this makes much of NijiEN subtropic monsoon when I would have prefered it to be Cfa or Oceanic personally. I also am concerned regarding some nations outside of this like /kr/. However, I disagree with Retro's assessment of using two different models. Truth is, if we change, we cannot have two different models in use in different parts. Instead, people like Z, Climeat, Clocks and others can find ways to help them get a reasonable change. Also, I am going against the grain here and saying that magical climate is not totally bad and we must also understand that people come to this thread to have fun and build a nation that they envision. While there is kino lore to be found in cases like /rose/, we should not expect everyone to be as good as Rosebro or want to do that. Some people have visions for their nation that have climate in a certain ways. My suggestion with magic climate is you must adapt it to the Chuubanite mechanics, justify it, and don't make it ridiculous like turning a rainforest into tundra. Spec bio can help, but not everyone likes spec bio or wants to deal in it too much. To repeat, this project is ultimately for fun, and while I was a bastion of "realism" in the past, I think that writers should be given some grace. After all, we have meat killing jannies, Risuners magically being the best sailors in the world, and all MCs, including Pomerlane, having extreme plot armor.

With that said, we really need to have a overview of each climate type the way Z does (I have done reps) because it has helped me understand how things actually work. That would be really helpful to all of us, as I think its better to get it condensed into one document instead of relying on outside sources. If he is willing, I think he is the best man for the job.

>2. Islands
I think most of you are not understanding what the islands discussion is about. It's not solely about Retro sharing one random island but about how we approach the 3.0 islands as a whole and what criterion should be given to someone who wants to claim one. I support Alice's idea of them changing hands repeatedly in history, but that doesn't mean that all islands need to be owned or occupied per se. Some islands IRL are inhospitable for various reasons, and these islands likely have native populations on them in some form. You want to do something interesting? Create original content about some island. I get for nations like Moriji, Tsukinode, Hoshiyomia, Retro Reich, Kanaruca (?), and Nasfaq wanting to hold islands for resupply purposes, that makes sense to me perfectly. But this leads to a debate about colonialism that maybe we should also have.

I think the basic way of thinking of this should be.

>1. Have lore reasons for it, such as Retro's idea.
>2. Have it make sense in a world perspective. While landlock nations can certainly have some random island, I personally think said nations would really need to provide greater explanations because (I am contradicting myself) things need to make sense. It's not impossible. Courland IRL, a tiny baltic nation, owned colonies in the Caribbean for example and the City of Augsburg (I think) own Venezuela at one point (It gets its name from the Klein-Venedig in German, or Little Venice.) What I am basically saying is create a really cool and well thought out reason especially if you are a landlocked nation or nation that doesn't have much of a martime tradition like Dråkenland, which according to our famous Dragoon, has a fleet of a few fishing vessels :)
>3. Wars and peace treaties can change ownership of said islands like happened IRL.
>4. Create OC content for some islands like /mhm/ rep proposed with the Knights of Ailivia.
>5. Remember that this isn't about powergaming, but lore creation. Whether or not the Retro Reich owns an island in the middle of the Kizuna Ocean or Hoshi owns one there too shouldn't be something that should be concerning in any powergaming sense. Powergaming is lame, and if we want wars and relations to be more "open", we need to remove the concept of powergaming from our lexicon and furthermore correct those who actually are powergaming.

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PPSENPAI!!! It's good to see you!!!! i missed you a lot. umm, i can think of the stuff but no opinion really, just think i will agree with what most of the thread wants.

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Ok, I need the northern twins, Pentomo and Rosemaiden to discuss these islands which I believe can be in consideration for what you guys planned to do.

>Island 1
Lore wise, this was controlled by Watamelon at one point, and I unironically want him involved if he is here to discuss this. This island can very well remain in his hands, or the Imperial Navy likely took it over since that place as I understand was a major problem for them. Interesting island with a lot of lore potential

>island 2 and 3.
Both of these are close to NijiEN but it's debatable who controls them imo. This is because of either past wars between both, or that the HIE gave the Imperial Navy the islands in an effort to control the Sea better since Pomerania is the nation here and while they have a navy, it is not unreasonable for some of the monarchs to just give them to their northern friends as payment or even for the strategic reasons I gave. I personally will hold that Island 2 is Pomeranian, but I want this to be debated. If nothing else, their culture is Pomeranian or some other NijiEN group.

>>42363692
Hey, It's great to see you. Glad you are still around. If you need help, I'll try to get to it if possible.

>> No.42364148

>>42363886
Island 1, up to watamelon rep. Islands 2 and 3, up to rosemaiden and you.

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>>42363886
Island one, i will wait for watamate if he is still around to make any decision. I think lore reason makes sense overall there.

Island 2 and 3, more interested in seeing how Rosemaiden wants the empire to operate, like if there is an imperial army and fleet like the hre had. For the sake of debate, JP claims both of those islands.

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>>42363886
Tyty!!! im sort of stuck and my lore brain is not working so suggestions would be nice!!! i differ to you all about the islands, we are in the south so its not major deal.

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>>42363886
I wish to share responsibility over this decision with you, PPsenpai since you are a loremaster for nijien as I think i am more of second tier.

Island 1 isn't our concern but i think given Petra's lore with the navy dress, maybe one of the islands can be a pentomo state or something .Not sure I know how imperial armies or navies work...is it something all states provide too?

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>>42364813
>>42364263
>>42364162
>>42364148
I do like the idea of a Pentomo island, that sounds like fun lore. Dragoon is currently preparing himself to answer so hang in there. As for the whole thing you mentioned Rosemaiden about loremaster, I honestly don't totally care what tier I am or what that actually means in practice. This is a collaborative project, and all of your voices matter equally. Islands also have little to do with the thread lore imo.

I'll get to you on the imperial army or navy. That's something we can think about.

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>>42365010
Ok thanks

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Pentomo, what on your priority list do you think you need first?

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>>42365010
Ummmm I think the same as what pentomo said here!!!!!!!! >>42363692
I don't have an opinion on it!!!!!!!!!

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Ok, now that everyone posted, let's see what we agreed on.

1. All of us agreed on the climate.
2. It seems that most of you don't have much of an opinion on the islands, see what I wrote again and check to see if you agree with my criteria. >>42363380
3. The local islands. We all agreed that Watamate should be involved in case one. As for the other two, I know that none of you have strong opinions but here is my proposal.
>Island 2 is Pomeranian.
>Island 3 is under Tsukinode Control but is Pentomo culturally.

Furthermore, I wish to discuss what an imperial army or navy looks like, but I think we need to flesh out interior lore more first. I'm proud of you guys, just follow up to see if you agree.

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>>42367109
I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! um, can you help me with setting up interior lore????

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>>42367109
Fully support the decision! Let me work on interior ideas, might need your help and others on it however.

>> No.42367432

>>42367109
Agreed.

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>>42367109
I agree!! Put your island suggestion into our ballot.

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>>42362119
just a couple of things
1. What's the council of four like?
2. What's the triple alliance like?

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>>42367109
Sure!!!!!!!! I support it!!!!!!!!

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>>42367986
Give me a little bit, I am currently working on our regional ballot but I can answer those.

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>>42182555
The climate change as Climeat proposed and the Islands in 3.0 that are in the middle of the ocean.

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>>42084275
https://rentry.org/46itm
South Heavenly submits their group ballot. I'm not verifying or sure if I need to on a group ballot.

>> No.42369687

I miss Lunaito...

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>>42367986
First I need to make sure you understand that the Aztec Empire wasn't an Empire as we would consider one traditionally but informal and the Mexica themselves never claimed to have supreme authority over their many tributaries.

>Council of Four.
The Council of Four consists of four very powerful men and generals of the army who were first in line to become the next emperor. They gave advice to the emperor and it was very important that he had their agreement in major decisions. The Council of Four are the people that elects the new emperor after the previous ruler has died. The Council of Four must choose a new emperor that was related to the previous ruler. They normally chose the emperors among the brothers of sons of the deceased ruler. They had to be nobles and over the age of 30. They had to be educated at one of the elite calmecac schools, experienced warriors and military leaders and they had to be just. https://aztecsrcool.weebly.com/positions-of-power.html#:~:text=The%20Council%20of%20Four%20are%20the%20people%20that,be%20nobles%20and%20over%20the%20age%20of%2030.

>Tlacochcalcatl
What we would call a Field Marshal, basically the second in command of the whole army. Led it into battle if the King was absent with the Tlacateccatl. Always a member of the military order of the cuachicqueh "the shorn ones". Usually also was the successor of the King.
>Tlacateccatl
Similar to the Tlacochcalcatl, translates to general. In charge of the tlacatecco, a military quarter in the center of the Aztec capital, Tenochtitlan. Also was always a member of the military order of the cuachicqueh "the shorn ones".
>Ezhuahuacatl
"Raining Blood" or "Shedder of Blood," an executioner; an advisor to the supreme leader of the Aztecs; an officer of the court.
>Tlillancalqui
high judge, i can't read spanish for more information.

>Triple Alliance.
This was a common form of politics in Mesoamerica. The Tenochtitlan, Texcoco and the Junior partner of the three, Tlacopan. Basically what happened over time was Tenochtitlan became the most powerful of the three, sort of the parental figure in the alliance, but the others were allowed to share in the spoils of war. I think they both had resentment about this and this caused both of them to become traitors during the fall of the Empire.


Overall, in terms of /meat/, you first need to decide if you will model the Mexica directly because if so, one city will be powerful and the rest will be tributaries or members of an alliance. This could actually be interesting because it could help explain some problems you have now and furthermore, would allow you to have things like Flower Wars, which i unironically imagine you guys having. I copied a bit from wiki to make sure I am correct.

>> No.42370463

>>42370265
Man those titles sound metal af

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>>42369312
I support basically what South Ailivian had with PP. That makes sense to me so moon makes their stance that.

>> No.42373038

Hey, Rep, you here?

>> No.42373077
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42373077

ppsenpai are you still there???

>> No.42373150

>>42373077
Yeah sorry. Let's get to work. Where do you need help the most at or where would you like to start?

>> No.42373164

>>42373077
PPsenpai is giving someone a psychiatry session.

>> No.42373332

>>42373164
>>42373150
ah i see, well I can wait then!!!

>> No.42373437

>>42373332
There is no therapy session, just give me your notes and I'll try to provide what help I can.

>> No.42373519

>>42373437
https://rentry.org/AP-Global-General-Lore
https://rentry.org/iwcx4
https://rentry.org/tw9uh
its disorganized!!!

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>>42373519
I'll see what I can help with, let me digest the information first.

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Ok, let's take some baby steps Pentomo. I have made a basic map using your lore. I think you have a lot of blob but not much substance, so getting a simple map will help. Do you want me to name the cities? If we do that, we can start to visualize this better economically, culturally, etc.

>> No.42374728

>>42374511
Umm, sure!!! but i am feeling a bit lazy so we can start again tomorrow right????

>> No.42374871

>>42374728
Fine by me. I'll get the names later then.

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>>42373024
>South Ailivian
...Okay. Anyways, let's wait on OG because i think we both basically agree.

>> No.42375093

When Motley came face to face with Ook, the general of the Gorillians, he revved up his chainsaw. Motley yells "tonight we feast on Gorillian flesh. Under Sana's feet we will cook monke pie."

>> No.42375172

>>42375093
Full movie coming when?

>> No.42375485

>>42369656
>However, what is apparent to me is that this system needs to have people, or one person step up to take a leadership style role within a group discussion.
This is a fatal flaw in the system that is supposed to take the power out of the hands of one person but in reality puts all the power in the hands of the person with the strongest voice.

>> No.42375540

>>42375485
>This is a fatal flaw in the system that is supposed to take the power out of the hands of one person but in reality puts all the power in the hands of the person with the strongest voice.
It's ok, pink man and retro fought for this system, it will work out

>> No.42375671

>>42375485
I dont see how this is an issue when making decisions. This is how things work often in real life. What you want is a system where everyone is the same person, which is silly.

>> No.42375824

>>42375540
Typically, pinkman in particular has contributed nothing to this at all. Retro also had the thread confused totally on the islands until PP clarified.

>> No.42375921

>>42375485
Isnt this literally how things work with groups? Even in direct democracy like ancient athens, this was always the case. So long as the leader actually is trying to engage with the other members and addressing them, this is a non issue.

>> No.42375946

>>42375824
Former is a given at this point and the latter is just because nobody really talks with the guy aside from deadbeat who's on vacation rn.

>> No.42376090

>>42375946
Shockingly, the people that do talk to him regularly are from the clique.

>> No.42376094

>>42374511
How difficult is the sailing from /wg/ to AP out of curiosity? Is ice going to be an issue at those latitudes?

>> No.42376192

>>42376094
Bad, particularly with colder climate. Most the ports will be frozen half the year so land trade would be part of it, like unloading in say, nijikr and taking roads south.

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All right, I had a long talk and I guess it's time we address this can of worms.
/meat/ writers, gather round.
We all know deep inside that recent changes to the board culture has not been easy on us.
We've developed this nasty habit of us not being honest with ourselves. Delusional in our own fantasies even.
Yes I know we're all grieving over the fact we no longer have a thread but taking it out on the project has not been a healthy decision. The story is supposed to reflect the board, not as a getaway fantasy into our own ideal version of the board. Which is what we have been doing since.
Now I'd like to address three issues.

1. Our disorganisation.
As much as we've all been at the forefront of contributions, we have not been an organised bunch. Each of us contributed lore in bits that we throw them onto a pile and see what works. For example, our main lore doc. While it is a fun read, it is mainly made up of fluffs and niche topics. Whilst only recently we only thought about homeland lore such as political organisation and legislation.

2. Fantasy escapism
Founder, I know how much you've been trying your hardest to keep the threads up. Even getting bans for the team, but the recent story you've wrote where it ends with 'the death of a j***y' brought up an issue where it crossed a line that should not be crossed; self-insert escapism. I know how much you have your grudges but to write that a mere thread, a banned one to add, was able to get a j***y expelled is the epitome of 'mary sue power fantasy'. To carve out an event that never happened just for the sake of making ourselves still look like we're in our heyday.

Second of all, you said yourself that you believe in a popular support for any new lore no matter how ridiculous. Sadly the exile lore where /meat/ as a nation is secluded from the world by j***y magic has not been given said support. You cited /ybc/ lore as its conception but /ybc/ anon said himself that he does not approve of it.

So to you, I deeply request that you rethink and revise that story of yours so that it truly reflects our current state of what we are, not what we want to be, and to also remove parts that were unsavoury to those you cited. If you truly are a man of your word, and you really want the thread to adopt your method, you should begin with that story.

3. Mary Sue Powerlevel
PG, this issue is directed towards you. I understand how much writing lore for /meat/ and the magic system meant for you. You were very passionate about it and wanted others to use it as well. However, your behaviour of insisting on others to instantly understand your way of doing things have been making more harm than good.

In recent months you have been increasingly persistent and insistent in upholding the belief that /vtwbg/ is and always will be another front for /meat/. Any attempts at writing lore that goes against your vision, such as /hag/bro's curse idea, was immediately met with defiance. Any attempts at writing a story where /meat/ is at a loss, such as the Risu warlord or /moon/'s defenses, were met with criticism in the name of canonicity.

But the question is, what is canon is this sense? Was it canon that has been set in stone, or canon that you envisioned? A canon where our thread is still at the forefront, the vanguard of lorekeeping. But that age has waned away months ago with every new writer. Your insistence on becoming this vanguard of canon has scared away new writers and contributors trying to have fun. We cannot become the very thing we hate; no fun gatekeepers. Like those that kept reporting our threads.

You have ideas, good ones too, but you kept shooting down others just as they were about to start walking. And in turn, you insisted on adding your own canon unto others. The recent attempt at making 'O my rubber nen' a canon is one.

I know how much each word in a sentence meant to your thinking, but not everyone here thinks like you do. Especially someone who had just joined and did not have the temperament to understand our 'oldfag esoteric pataphysics lore #12'. Which is a problem of itself referring to issue 1, where MOST of our lore have been in replies and fluffs. Not written in organised forms. We cannot accuse the new writers of not understanding us when we do not even organise them ourselves.

Forgive me if my words are very harsh for today. But I just do not want /meat/ to become an escapist fantasy. An unhealthy way for us to cope with our loss by creating our own reality.

>> No.42376282

>>42376090
Pffff yea right

>> No.42376349

>>42376192
Excellent! Then Anya’s curse shall be implemented.

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>>42376094
One day, i will sit down with z and clocks to discuss this more. I can assume that you would likely sail to north eastern KR and as the anon said, unload there and trek south. Sailing is particularly rough in colder climates and the land route will be much safer, despite its slow speed. There is a paradox of AP having excellent and rare natural resources while also having these problems.

>> No.42376552

>>42376349
Explain. Out of touch here.

>> No.42376650

>>42376472
No worries. It matches thread lore if it’s a treacherous journey that a few have foolishly tried and failed. Though it’s good to know we aren’t cut off completely if the need arises!
>>42376552
Several writers in a row endeavored to write an Anya fic but ended up getting filtered by her streams and giving it up. Now we are cursed to never have an in-character Anya fic because none of our regulars can manage to sit down and watch her properly.

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>>42376198
meatbro...

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>>42376650
Perfect! I love it then.

>> No.42376859

>>42376198
Meatbro… ToT

>> No.42376892

Does Pomu like ice cream, sherbert, or frozen yogurt?

>> No.42377019

>>42376892 https://youtu.be/quKNBWKmNH8
Cant remember if she has stated it but I think this pl cover should tell you.

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>>42376198
And to take up the task of organization, I shall do it with the help of the meatheads, though be patient because I am going to work with pentomo and rosemaiden on their ideas too.

>> No.42377496

>>42376198
are you fucking kidding me. i have not done any of the things you have said i have, but rather insisted that old lore be respected, which it clearly is not. i have offered my positions, and made myself clear my apologies if i havent, but i think my concepts about what /meat/ is are sound and i will stand by them. the risu warlord in any circumstance was illogical considering how /meat/ raids operate, as was the /moon/ stuff. we are not a mary sue. we have enemies everywhere like v7, morig, and jannies. our very existence is barely possible at this point so forgive me for being protective of our lore, which we spent a lot of time formulating and processing into sound concepts. can i ask what the problem is?

>> No.42377562

>>42377277
This is really scary to me, and i think i speak for a lot of us when I say that I do not want you touching /meat/'s lore at all given your trackrecord. Who even authorized this or is this just you trying to micromanage everything again?

>> No.42377667

>>42377562
>we

>> No.42377731

>>42377277
Really? fuck off.

>> No.42377750

>PP comes back
>thread infighting
I miss you guys

>> No.42377843
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>>42377750

>> No.42377944

>>42377277
>meat now has one of (((them))) in their ranks
shameful display.

>> No.42378052

Schizo Justice Warriors.

>> No.42378118

>>42377277
how dare you come back and HELP other anons! This is the most vicious and ulteriorly motivated crime I have ever seen. How dare you want to help anons in a collaborative project!

>> No.42378166
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Ahh, there's the /vtwbg/ I fell in love with, keep it up guys, I'm sure you've been backed up the last couple of weeks!

>> No.42378180

>>42363380
>opens thread
>sees yellow man AND yellow woman.
>day ruined

>> No.42378306

Wait a minute... We have two yellow men... PP... founder... Holy shit guys, did you know that PP and Founder are the same person?

>> No.42378427

>>42375824
>>42375540
Yes, i have not said much recently. However, I am pretty sure this whole system was my idea and I helped make it, though it seems like retro and whoever else bastardized it from my original vision tho. I am not happy about the leadership flaw, but the obvious solution is that others actually do something instead of being lazy bums.

as for my ideas, not in favor of either of the topics. seems like it screws over too many people with climate and also what islands are we talking about?

>> No.42378454

I should look up where to grow mint. Mint tea is nice.

>> No.42378477

>>42378454
You can in /risu/. Their 3x growth soil is perfect for a lot of mint.

>> No.42378559

>>42378477
>Get raped to almost death and eaten alive by geese.
Nah, I'm not going to /risu/.

>> No.42378609
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>>42378559
You will cum to risu.

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>>42378559
We are waiting for you, Sanalite.

>> No.42378705

>>42378454
Oh hey, you. You've been pretty openly wanting more human interaction, so here.

https://discord.gg/rPU7T3M

>> No.42378720
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42378720

>2 fucking falseflaggers
Am I really that desirable? Fuck I should become a chuuba if you all are this obsessed with me

>> No.42378789

>>42378427
Well maybe you should have actually proposed something instead of being a "lazy bum."

>> No.42378800

>>42378720
YES!!

>> No.42378826

>>42378609
>>42378659
>Banned from /mans/.
>Banned from /rrat/.
>Banned from /risu/.
>Banned from /pyon/.
Where will Sanalites be banned from next?

>> No.42378876
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>>42378826
/moon/. no more space for you.

>> No.42378909

>>42378826
>Forgets /uuu/
Jesas, do better next time

>> No.42379214

>>42378427
>actually do something instead of being lazy bums.
Look in the mirror

>> No.42379278

>>42378909
I thought we repaired our relationship with /uuu/ through ice cream sammies?

>>42378876
Any lore reason Sanalites are banned from /moon/?

>> No.42379386
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>>42379278
You flew too close to the sun, or in this case the Moon. Sorry!

>> No.42379423

>>42379278
No, there was another incident where one of us accidentally got inside Fauna's "cradle" and blacked her. They hate us since. As for moon, they just jealous their goddess has smaller tits than ours.

>> No.42379609

>>42378826
All of HoloID territory. Also all indie continent territories and Nijisanji.

>> No.42379664

>>42379328

>> No.42379721

>>42379386
We were on a crash course landing. Sorry about that. Anything we can do to get unbanned?

>> No.42380829
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>>42379721
Send a man, a woman, a boy and a girl. A family to /moon/.

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42381046

>>42380829
No.

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