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EN TTRPG Anonymous Tue May 25 19:33:18 2021 No.4201575 [Reply] [Original]

This TTRPG series will be kino material.

Also
#MYTHRAPE

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 19:36:21 2021 No.4201855 >>4201575 Very happy that this isn't DnD. Calli seems experienced wtih tabletops.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 19:39:56 2021 No.4202115 She seems a little more experience in this than what she did during the meme review. Too bad we couldn't get to use the mythrape tag but I bet someone will use it anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 21:40:50 2021 No.4206810 File: 675 KB, 643x722, Untitled-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4201575 >>4204758 >>4204943 I should have gave frank the scythe

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 21:43:22 2021 No.4206901 This idea will be a near infinite font of great fanart. I really hope the girls have fun and it succeeds to the point they have other members guest star on a monthly basis.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 21:57:55 2021 No.4207428 File: 166 KB, 1237x1207, Er5Tv8iUYAYJwc1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 22:00:27 2021 No.4207502 maybe if gura actually bothers to do some work, didn't even do the bare minimum prep for chara creation

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 01:09:10 2021 No.4212323 b

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 01:12:29 2021 No.4212389 File: 223 KB, 841x1080, Char-Ame.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ame's sheet

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 01:12:59 2021 No.4212394 >>4207502 Her edgelord character that Calli bent the rules for her to have magic is great, not sure what the fuck are going on about

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 01:14:35 2021 No.4212423 File: 256 KB, 879x1142, Char-Gura.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gura's sheet

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 01:15:41 2021 No.4212445 File: 1.05 MB, 2513x3262, Char-Ina.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ina's sheet

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 01:16:50 2021 No.4212470 File: 2.57 MB, 2513x3262, Char-Kiara.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Kiara's sheet

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 01:18:20 2021 No.4212497 >>4212423 >>4212445 the duality of handwriting

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 01:20:11 2021 No.4212529 >>4212497 >ignoring Ame's handwriting

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 01:21:25 2021 No.4212548 >>4212529 ame's looks like she was using a mouse, gura's looks like she was using a tablet and just writes like a child or is at least pretending to

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 01:30:24 2021 No.4212694 File: 349 KB, 695x387, Atlantis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4212548 Upon further examination

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 01:51:02 2021 No.4213075 >>4212529 ame literally said she was using paint

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 02:43:57 2021 No.4214025 /vt/ tabletop when

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 02:50:08 2021 No.4214105 File: 159 KB, 1273x692, -.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 03:01:21 2021 No.4214260 File: 1.76 MB, 1280x720, download (329).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4201575 >series They'll have one more stream and it'll be over.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 03:03:29 2021 No.4214283 >>4212423 >Gura didn't understand the 3,4,5 attribute thing, because she was asleep

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 03:05:16 2021 No.4214298 >>4214260 Maybe if you actually watched the 0 session you wouldn't be looking so stupid right now.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 03:05:19 2021 No.4214299 >>4214105 clap clap

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 05:50:23 2021 No.4216376 Did the nips understand what this stream was about?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 05:58:05 2021 No.4216503 >>4216376 A subset of them that play TTRPGs do.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 05:59:19 2021 No.4216522 >>4201575 what myth are they raping

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 06:10:15 2021 No.4216705 File: 109 KB, 100x100, Dogoo.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Cali is the DM Oh, thats unfortunate but- >Cali is really into this and is hyping it all up well OH SHIT YEAH THIS IS THE GOOD SHIT

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 06:12:40 2021 No.4216740 File: 2.73 MB, 1890x932, holo en wod party.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4206810 nice also posting what some anon did in the yesterday's thread

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 06:43:29 2021 No.4217193 >>4201575 >session 1 starts in july >f*cking JULY ffs what a tease.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 06:51:52 2021 No.4217354 >>4217193 Every week in June there's supposed to be an intro session for each individual player, so at least it's not a total tease.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 06:52:03 2021 No.4217358 >>4212445 Ina has such nice handwriting

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 06:55:45 2021 No.4217440 >>4217354 thats gonna be a long ass intro session for just one character

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 06:59:18 2021 No.4217516 File: 1.33 MB, 1343x674, 1474811414667.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4201575 not Warhammer 40K, but some gay ass vampire fantasy...

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 07:00:34 2021 No.4217536 >>4214025 When you make it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 07:34:38 2021 No.4218130 >>4217440 IDK man, one-on-one backstory sessions can take as much time as a general session with a whole playgroup really so.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 07:42:16 2021 No.4218274 >>4217516 You really expect women to like warhammer over gay vampires?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 07:49:18 2021 No.4218433 >>4218274 yes, you can play as a metrogay slaanesh stripper dancers, or BDSM elves... there's plenty of shit like that in W40K

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 07:51:58 2021 No.4218486 Apart from their debuts I only ever watch Ina's solo streams. How cringe was this? I'm a big TTRPGfag and I want to give them another chance.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 07:56:11 2021 No.4218551 >>4218486 >How cringe was this? Kiara is in it. That's all you need to know.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 07:58:46 2021 No.4218589 >>4218551 Yeah. I'm glad Calli isn't a character tho, otherwise she'd push that fake takamori shit down everybody's throat. I'll wait and see how it turns out before I give it a watch.

Anonymous Wed May 26 07:58:57 2021 No.4218594

>>4218486
Calli is legitimately in her element here.
Kiara proved she is actually competent and without being cringe.
Ame made Goblin Alex Jones.
Gooruh showed up to a Hunter game with a Vampire character using Mage powers. She's confused but she's got the spirit. Literally since she picked up a Vestige.
Ina was cuter than usual, just like always. Despite this being her first TTRPG experience she clearly knew what she was doing.

Anonymous Wed May 26 07:58:57 2021 No.4218595

>>4218486
>How cringe was this?
Well they only went through character creation so far, but it was actually pretty solid. Surprisingly Calli actually did a good job with preparing and with explaining everything to them, and really took on the role of a leader and DM well.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 08:04:45 2021 No.4218720 >>4218486 Even retards from /vt/ would get a gist of what TTRPG is. That is how good Mori explained the game to the girls

Anonymous Wed May 26 08:05:55 2021 No.4218754

>>4218594
>>4218595
I don't have any experience with this one but I did play a lot of Vampire The Masquerade, is it similar? I'd figured they'd play Call of Cthulu because of Ina and all and how popular it is in Japan.
Also, do they keep doing voices or something? I find it really grating whenever people take it seriously enough to reach that point.

Anonymous Wed May 26 08:10:19 2021 No.4218842

>>4218754
>I did play a lot of Vampire The Masquerade, is it similar?
That's my only experience as well, but from what I understand they will be playing a full human hunter team, so they're approaching the world from the other side, so to speak.
>Also, do they keep doing voices or something?
As I said, they've only done character creation so far. They haven't done any voices yet, hard to say if they will, but honestly I doubt that for two reasons: first of all, they're already putting on a voice as vtubers, and second of all, they all seem pretty new (except Calli) to TTRPGs, so doing special voices for their characters may be a bit too difficult to get used to.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 08:13:04 2021 No.4218891 >>4212423 Mystery Dork Lady

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 08:14:02 2021 No.4218913 File: 114 KB, 512x512, 1614747832083.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4212423 >drive >blind

Anonymous Wed May 26 08:14:57 2021 No.4218933

>>4218842
I see. Sounds interesting.
And yeah, the sheet looks kinda similar to Vampire, just a different layout.
Also, I hope you're right, it's way more fun when you're just starting out than when people keep minmaxing their sheets and taking roleplaying way too seriously.
Guess I'll try to power through the cringe when I get back home.
Is Calli gonna come up with an original campaign or is World of Darkness a ready-made one?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 08:16:07 2021 No.4218966 >>4218486 there wasnt any cringe. i watched it all the way >>4218551 kiara's wasnt cringe here. at least watch it anon

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 08:18:14 2021 No.4219015 >>4217516 It's not VtM so it should turn out fine.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 08:20:50 2021 No.4219059 >>4218933 Original campaign in the same world

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 08:32:17 2021 No.4219276 >>4218966 Kiara's voice is the most ear-grating cringe out there. Unless she's using a voice modulator or high on sulfur hexafluoride I ain't watching it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 08:35:42 2021 No.4219342 File: 2.21 MB, 668x720, [sound=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.catbox.moe%2Fo3ivdh.mp3].webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I JWU can I get a qrd on all the events leading up to this stream? Last I heard character creation was going to be offstream.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 08:37:07 2021 No.4219378 >>4218433 Heretic

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 08:41:41 2021 No.4219493 File: 237 KB, 816x694, HtV dante.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4201575 No one tell Gura that this game features Dante from the Devil May Cry Series

Anonymous Wed May 26 08:47:36 2021 No.4219777
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>>4217516
>having this much of a shit opinion
All the FFG TTRPGs are poorly written garbage which I'm happy that they lost the license and WanG is a disgrace to every single TTRPG and it's unsurprising that it has passed hands in a matter of a year to a different company that couldn't fix the disgrace.

Get out of here 40kiddie. Post models and maybe I'll give you some respect.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 08:58:01 2021 No.4220375 >>4219378 Yeah, everybody knows women like Tyranids.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 09:07:30 2021 No.4220715 File: 433 KB, 2121x1724, E1_fuDuVcAMF4ow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4216376 Holo JP, especially F.A.M.S used to do their own pen&paper RPG. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR1ok2yjDMA back when fun was allowed.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 09:10:58 2021 No.4220878 >>4220715 Fubuki ran another session back in December https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7ff3OIkWPI

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 09:17:37 2021 No.4221138 >>4219276 She's German

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 10:12:04 2021 No.4222944 >>4207502 She had a notes about her character concept which is fine enough for a TTRPG newbie. Fuck off.

Anonymous Wed May 26 10:19:07 2021 No.4223156

>>4219342
>Cali plans shit for months
>Like nine hours (?) before the stream Cover menagment bans it because no permissions even though explicit permissions are on WoD website
>Cali is sad, then pissed, says she will make her own WoD with blackjack and hookers in MSPaint
>Some intern from Paradox watches stream, deals with Jap autism, and say will send girls merch (d10 and like)
>Cali is overjoyed
All in span of 30 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 10:23:08 2021 No.4223306 File: 496 KB, 750x831, Blunaberry.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4223156 LOL

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 10:34:06 2021 No.4223661 >>4223306 T2 deadbeat, onegai, I know it's leaking members content but please give us clip when Mori hears the news. I want to see her smile.

Anonymous Wed May 26 10:51:48 2021 No.4224128

>>4218130
Also let's Mori work out the basic gameplay loops and troubleshoot issues one on one, let's the girls refine their characters without the pressure of a big collab/slowing down the gameplay, allows the members who are quieter in a group collab shine in a 1:1 setting so they have some experience with their character before jumping into a hectic group session. It's a really good idea actually.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 10:53:57 2021 No.4224195 >>4223156 Glad paradox's marketing and PR employees are more competent than their game designers.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 10:57:45 2021 No.4224283 >>4221138 She isn't German and even if she was, there are German vtubers with great voices (Selphy for example).

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:02:12 2021 No.4224390 File: 199 KB, 863x1136, 1610131011554.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/kelpgrass/status/1397498902950006784?s=19

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:09:58 2021 No.4224608 https://twitter.com/jawlipops/status/1397439968386043910?s=20

Anonymous Wed May 26 11:10:11 2021 No.4224616
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>>4212389
>>4212423
>>4212445
>>4212470
Anyone familiar with the game can say what's this group. I can tell from glance that Kiara is going to be the muscle of the group, but what can be expected from the rest?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:13:13 2021 No.4224692 >>4223156 I don't think i had seen Mori that mad since she put stop to people calling her tomboy in her chat.

Anonymous Wed May 26 11:13:44 2021 No.4224706

>>4224616
>Ina
Support, might get the chance to run over a spookster or two somewhere down the road
>Ame
IRL fishmalk. Will be an active hindrance to the team.
>Gura
nothing. Mori will baby her as much as she possibly can and try to give her things to do but it will be all for naught. She'll come to one session and then claim she forgot the sheet then ghost out.

Anonymous Wed May 26 11:15:31 2021 No.4224754

>>4224616
It's honestly hard to say because half the sheets as they are don't work. Gura's character for instance clearly wants to be a combat monster but she has merits that she doesn't qualify for and can't use of, not to mention abilities from two separate gamelines. Ina has some int skills and Ame has some social skills but really only Kiara has a functional character right now, the rest are more outlines and ideas.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:19:17 2021 No.4224835 >>4219276 >I'm never going to watch a single ttrpg stream but hear my opinion in a ttrpg thread ogey nnigger

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:21:44 2021 No.4224894 >>4224754 They dont know how to play and who cares, they're just having fun with it. They probably drop it if they get bored.

Anonymous Wed May 26 11:21:47 2021 No.4224896

>>4216522
>what myth are they raping
This comment was said in jest, however, the nature of the supernatural beings the PCs will face is a big deal. This is including what I like to call "the Scooby Doo option" in which none of the events actually involve the supernatural, just smoke and mirrors.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:33:37 2021 No.4225215 >>4224616 Kiara is fine, ranged fighter. Ame with some work could be the hand to hand fighter. I think she needs a fair bit more STR. Ina would be the support and brain. Gura would be the rogue but is probably the messiest of the bunch at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:44:45 2021 No.4225459 >>4224896 I'm hoping thier first mission ends up being a dude in a rubber werewolf mask then a real werewolf shows up and tears Chad in half

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:46:33 2021 No.4225494 >>4224894 It's easily fixable by giving it a once over. The character archetypes they're making are all sound they just didn't manage to translate it onto the character sheet

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:50:22 2021 No.4225585 >>4216740 isn't there a Chadseph Joestar edit for rightmost?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:51:38 2021 No.4225614 >>4222944 And the notes were just a single crumpled piece of paper with "DONTE / VIRGINL" written on it

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:52:59 2021 No.4225649 >>4201855 DnD is the tabletop McDonald's.

Anonymous Wed May 26 11:53:14 2021 No.4225655

>>4223156
It's sad, because she spent MONTHS talking about this, spoke about all the stuff she did to prepare, all the EN managers gave the go ahead, and even A-chan tweeted about it. There was plenty of time for them to speak up about this, but they waited until the last possible moment to pull the plug. That's definitely a level of incompetency that will make somebody reconsider their contract.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:54:01 2021 No.4225673 >>4206901 Yeah fanart is going to be amazing. Would be hilarious if this starts a trend.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:54:48 2021 No.4225688 >autists going over their character sheets and how they will fail >Cali has said over again that the game revolves around what ever is most fun Some of you /tg/iggers don't know how to have fun it seems

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:55:15 2021 No.4225701 >>4225215 Trying to fight hand to hand in WoD as normal human is generally suicidal.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:55:24 2021 No.4225704 >>4225688 >/tg/ >fun

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:57:04 2021 No.4225734 >>4217516 40k RPG games are trash.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:57:12 2021 No.4225735 >>4225704 there are exeptions like me

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:58:05 2021 No.4225752 >>4225688 There's fun and then there's "not sure this will work in the game and might be actively detrimental," which is what everybody in this thread is talking about. Haven't seen any discussion about optimisation or power gaming.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:59:01 2021 No.4225768 >>4223156 And people still defend Cover.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:59:33 2021 No.4225778 >>4225688 Been there, party would have died so many times that I ended up rolling behind the screen and making up numbers.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 11:59:59 2021 No.4225785 >>4225752 They put down an initial idea for their characters. Next month is all about working on each one, plenty of time to go down the sheet with Calli and refine them.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:01:35 2021 No.4225808 >>4225688 They are shit at combat but of course GM can work around that. I'm expecting their monster encounters to be mostly them running away.

Anonymous Wed May 26 12:01:36 2021 No.4225809

Having the girls do a lot of combat oriented missions wouldn't be playing to their strengths. An action set piece at the end maybe but they should be in weird social situations, investigating mysteries, intimating/bamboozling random thugs and fighting other humans most of the time. If they fight a werewolf they will probably win by welding silverware to a van and having Ina land on it after flying off a highway onramp instead of min/maxing their dice pools. Getting caught up how optimal their builds are for combat is sort of missing what would make a vtuber ttrpg fun in the first place.

Anonymous Wed May 26 12:04:11 2021 No.4225865

>>4225688
Tabletop rpgs are designed for the sweatiest and greasiest virgins. They aren’t built for fun, they are built to push players to the minmax limit. It’s natural fans of these games only see potential for failure when a group of women are ‘playing the game wrong’

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:04:36 2021 No.4225874 >>4225808 >them running away >Gura >Ame Your expectations...

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:06:45 2021 No.4225924 >>4225865 Everything you said is wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:07:43 2021 No.4225944 >>4201575 I want it to be successful so paradox make their session-based PC rpg.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:08:40 2021 No.4225961 >>4212470 God damn Kiara's sheet is making my pp hard. She said she had a little experience with D&D so she aint completely clueless.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:09:41 2021 No.4225979 File: 199 KB, 500x500, 1619600340446.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wish I had friends.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:10:13 2021 No.4225992 >>4225961 >She said she had a little experience She also said she was in the Chess club. But yes, this looks good. Phoenixmama may have trained her well.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:11:18 2021 No.4226015 >>4225961 She knows DnD so she is always in a combat mindset. Jesus Gura at least invest 2 points into your firearms.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:11:47 2021 No.4226022 >>4225961 >She's Pigeon man mixed with John Wick and also seems to want to play up the funny foreigner. If she plays it well enough, this could be a legitimately good character.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:12:11 2021 No.4226034 >>4225688 I mean did anyone really expect them to have any real inkling on how to play other then Mori. If anything the entire game rests on her shoulders by being the GM.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:12:41 2021 No.4226043 >>4225614 Yes, I'm sure your very first character was the epitome of originality, anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:13:20 2021 No.4226056 File: 32 KB, 576x576, EiYPodWWkAc55Eo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4225979 same Making a character alongside them just to realise you have nowhere to use it was painfull

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:13:37 2021 No.4226061 File: 138 KB, 463x453, 1594744884119.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4212445 >mad >high composure >scientist >1 science, medium intelligence

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:15:46 2021 No.4226106 >>4225865 Autism.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:16:02 2021 No.4226108 >>4226061 She's really a mad engineer.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:17:13 2021 No.4226126 >>4226061 she's a self taught scientist

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:17:37 2021 No.4226138 >>4226061 >>4226108 She did a perfect job. She's Okabe. Okabe blabs about knowing science but he knows very little. Okabe was also tempered by trauma-inducing experiences, but came out ahead

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:18:17 2021 No.4226152 >>4226022 But can she pull off a Borat version of John Wick?

Anonymous Wed May 26 12:18:32 2021 No.4226158
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>>4225688
There is nothing wrong about not being combat focused, but they are hunters. Monsters aren't going to commit suicide for them.

Putting the bare minimum in firearms at the very least is something all of them should do. If Gura thinks she can magically disappear in shadows and kill vampires with box cutters she's in for a rude awakening.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:18:53 2021 No.4226169 >>4226138 Okabe would be 5 resolve and high wits.

Anonymous Wed May 26 12:18:59 2021 No.4226171

In less than a day the stream has about 500K views, 35K peak live viewers, and as a bonus they made 3K in SC. That's more than Critical Role has averaged over their last 20 streams or so. And that was for literally: spreadsheets, the stream, with no action or gameplay. Mori seems like a competent GM and by spacing things out it gives them a chance to refine their characters and gives the fan artists time to pump out content. It must be a huge luxury as a DM to have high quality backgrounds, character art, assets, heck even BGM created for you either for free or by commission.

Trying not to get my hopes up. The WoD folks must be thrilled this marketing opportunity worth thousands was just dropped in their lap. If they had any sense they should bend over backwards to support them.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:19:51 2021 No.4226189 >>4226138 I was thinking more along the lines of Dexter from Dexter's Laboratory, whose storylines usually involve him building some contraption rather than conduct experiments.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:20:32 2021 No.4226206 >>4226171 They are. They are sending them merch already.

Anonymous Wed May 26 12:23:28 2021 No.4226267

>>4226152
Doubtful. It'd be tough to pull off in a non-annoying way for a veteran, plus she's Kiara, but would be very happy to be wrong.
>>4226171
Even assuming general interest drop-off after the first stream, those are really strong numbers for just character creation, which is generally the most boring part for the average viewer.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:23:57 2021 No.4226281 >>4212389 memelord, will get old >>4212423 babby's first, but GM will go easy >>4212445 attempted mary sue, got a goober >>4212470 team carrier

Anonymous Wed May 26 12:24:33 2021 No.4226293

>>4226158
I always liked systems where defeating opponents could be reasonably done without investing in specific combat skills. Gura has very high stealth and social skills. Why not sneak into a party and poison the drinks, or bar the door and set the place on fire instead of just trying to punch vampires to death? Maybe don't kill anyone at all. Maybe steal some key information or objects, barter or persuade some local werewolves to deal with instead. I find that way more interesting than most combat.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:26:38 2021 No.4226341 >>4224706 >Ame >goblin Alex Jones >an active hindrance Perfect

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:28:15 2021 No.4226375 >>4226061 She's a scientist who is absolutely terrible at science. That's why she's so mad about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:28:16 2021 No.4226376 >>4226341 Ame's character is Alex Jones.... in a world where vampires and magic are very much real. She can really have fun with it while still working towards the overall party goal is she tries.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:28:28 2021 No.4226382 >>4226293 WoD games are 90% like what you described, but fighting does happen in the remaining 10% and if you are terrible at it and don't have someone to fight for you it's not going to be pretty.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:29:18 2021 No.4226401 >>4226375 A long-term grad student who is mediocre at science but good at actually building/crafting stuff is... not unrealistic really.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:29:54 2021 No.4226417 >>4226171 They responded within 30 minutes when the permissions issue was brought up and then offered to send free merch too. Their PR guy is on top of this shit

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:30:08 2021 No.4226427 >>4225688 You don't know how to read it seems.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:30:21 2021 No.4226429 >>4226293 Even if you want to go the social route, it doesn't hurt to put one or two points into firearms. Keeps your options open. As of now, if a random mutt appears in an alley she would just be a sitting duck.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:30:59 2021 No.4226444 >>4226061 Wacky engineer is more like it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:31:28 2021 No.4226459 File: 427 KB, 827x729, 1608647041842.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4226056 You can play characters? I only make them. I keep making them even now. Maybe you could do that and I forgot.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:32:30 2021 No.4226491 >>4226459 >>4226056 It would be hilarious if Mori never actually played before either. Just read all the books and dreamed about running games.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:33:33 2021 No.4226517 >>4226459 >>4226056 Same. Nobody I know has that much time to burn on an RPG. They would just bail by the 2nd session.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:34:34 2021 No.4226552 >>4225688 Bending and breaking the rules if it makes things better is good, but it seems like the rules might be being broken in a way that doesn't really benefit anyone. Mori didn't even have the right source material prepared.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:34:59 2021 No.4226562 >>4226171 Lest we forget, Critical Role has all manner of professional equipment and people which your typical TTRPG streamers and channels can only dream of

Anonymous Wed May 26 12:35:51 2021 No.4226580

>>4226382
Kiara is going to be doing some serious combat heavy lifitng at least until they get some points/equipment to play with.

Though if Ina is in a motor vehicle... she gets double velocity damage and a size bonus, so if she revs a van up to 40 mph she gets like 20 dice of lethal damage with her merit. Quite literally Nico in DMC levels of supernatural creature splatting.

Anonymous Wed May 26 12:36:00 2021 No.4226586
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>>4216376
Japan has TTRPGs, there was even a "cute girls doing cute things" manga about them. Hell, Log Horizon's game adaption was /tg/ rather than the expected Vidya.
Do they know what World of Darkness is? Probably not, western TTRPGs aren't big over there, even DnD struggles against the local flavor.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:36:30 2021 No.4226613 File: 42 KB, 704x480, epnvonkblc3lyv2xarqzaivughfqvmo5_hq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A bit disappointed none of them went this route.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:38:27 2021 No.4226663 >>4226580 Kiara is decent at combat but not great. And hunters are generally way weaker than things they fight. They need to work as a team. If they just rely on her to be the group warrior she's going to die in first real encounter.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:38:31 2021 No.4226666 >>4226417 This is the first time WoD has been in the public sphere in the last couple years that wasn't vtm2 nonsense or some dumb controversy. PR guy was probably happy people stopped beaming him in the head with curveballs for once.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:39:03 2021 No.4226683 >>4216376 >>4226586 As far as I know, CoC is as big there as DnD is big in the west. That anime about nyarlathotep as an anime girl only exist because CoC is popular for example

Anonymous Wed May 26 12:40:14 2021 No.4226715

>>4226663
Ah I have faith Mori can make it work. Let the girls team up with another group of hunters at first, since they are newbies. Or maybe they get caught between rival supernatural groups and just need to tip the scales a bit. Or maybe the first few sessions they deal with human lackeys so they can get some bonus points to shore up their combat abilities.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:40:18 2021 No.4226719 File: 151 KB, 402x360, 1608681706403.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4226683 Coc is huge. Fubuki streams her sessions on the regular. There are translators too.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:42:54 2021 No.4226783 >>4216376 Some Vtubers played tabletop before. It's not completely new.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:43:39 2021 No.4226804 >>4223156 Even though it's members stream I just want a clip of that blackjack and hookers part.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:43:57 2021 No.4226810 >>4226715 First few games are probably going to be tutorial mode. And raising skills to 2 dots is cheap they should soon understand what skills they would actually need.

Anonymous Wed May 26 12:48:13 2021 No.4226934

>>4226810
Been ages since I played but isn't it just 2 xp per dot? 2-4 xp for the each of the first few sessions doesn't seem unreasonable if she rewards clever roleplay, so it wouldn't be hard to get everyone to a basic level of competency before the end of the first season.

Also I given the time commitments and scheduling difficulties I'd be fine with Mori bumping up the xp rate a bit so that the girls and the audience get to see some faster progress.

Anonymous Wed May 26 12:50:54 2021 No.4226987

One thing I always hated about WW systems is the way their exp works encouraging you to minmax at character creation.

Basically, higher ranks cost more exp to raise but at character creation they don't. So you can save a ton of exp getting as many high lv dots as possible. Getting all the other necessary stuff to 2 dots is cheap and can be done is few games.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:51:04 2021 No.4226989 >>4223156 Where can I read on Cover's level of assholely?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:51:14 2021 No.4226992 >>4226715 Mad props if Mori gives them a mage ally or a vampire trying to manipulate them into taking out their rival. It all depends on how much lore Mori knows and whether she can weave them into an interesting story.

Anonymous Wed May 26 12:52:55 2021 No.4227026

>>4226715
There's some things even an inexperienced group of hunters can deal with right? A single ghoul or something as close to human as possible should serve as a possible tutorial enemy that both is dangerous enough but still won't tear them a new one? And something like gen14-15 or whatever the highest is now vampire as maybe as "boss" later?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:53:03 2021 No.4227029 File: 732 KB, 637x608, MonsterWorld.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4226586 I remember one of YuGiOh's first arcs was a TTRPG.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:54:55 2021 No.4227061 >>4223156 Can you show proof where this actually happened?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:55:52 2021 No.4227076 File: 261 KB, 829x802, anya sip [sound=files.catbox.moe%2Fsj4zsf.mp3].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4226586 >>4227029 There was a (kinda shitty) anime based on a TTRPG game played by a bunch of anime writers including Urobuchi and Nasu.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:55:55 2021 No.4227079 >>4227029 Back when he lit people on fire

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 12:59:31 2021 No.4227174 File: 2.05 MB, 1280x640, RoLW.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4227076 There's also a really great one

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:00:46 2021 No.4227209 To be fair it seems like all of their characters are at a state right before they actually encountered supernatural shit that changed their life. So it makes sense that some of them have zero combat skills.

Anonymous Wed May 26 13:03:31 2021 No.4227281

>>4227026
Starting vamps can be pretty shit at combat too depending who they were before getting turned. And you always have things like Larvae, shitty vampires created by other vamps as mindless minions. They are more like fast zombies than real vampires.

Hunters also deal with occultists and slashers. So Mori definitely can give them things they could defeat.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:03:55 2021 No.4227294 >>4226992 Mori introduces a super emo goth ally character, girls spend the entire season surreptitiously trying to figure out if he's a vampire, vampire wannabe, or just super committed to an aesthetic. Bonus points if Kiara tries to hit on him.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:04:53 2021 No.4227316 >>4227209 So Kiara being able to talk to birds, Ina being a self proclaimed mad scientist, Gura being edge the hedghog nothing personel, and Ame's whole character is just because they were naturally deranged BEFORE the supernatural? Damn

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:05:22 2021 No.4227324 >>4225614 Fortunately, whacky-wohoo pizza man is perfect for a Hunter campaign.

Anonymous Wed May 26 13:06:37 2021 No.4227352

>>4227209
It'd be cool if they did that on purpose, but in this case it's just inexperience leading to questionable decisions. Though Mori knows what she's doing and can use the solo sessions to "fix" the characters using them having their first supernatural encounter as justification.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:07:02 2021 No.4227370 >>4227316 Persuasive drug dealers who are into conspiracy theories is not exactly all that out there. She could've specialized in grappling and had Hunter:Joe Rogan edition.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:08:16 2021 No.4227398 >>4226375 >>4226401 Isn't that literally Ina's roommate if the rrats about her past study programme are to be believed? So she is just playing herself

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:08:18 2021 No.4227399 >>4227316 >crazy animal person >LARPer student >loner chuuni >conspiracy theory nut Yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:09:59 2021 No.4227442 File: 71 KB, 679x1024, Merchant_re4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4212389 >yfw Watoto is reviled to be the great granddaughter of pic related Also wonder how much Ame is going to double down on the gremlin voice.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:10:07 2021 No.4227448 File: 57 KB, 225x350, .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4227399 She traded magic for the ability to not have eyes.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:10:18 2021 No.4227454 File: 403 KB, 1000x500, shall not be infringed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4226281 >will get old No, Ame is full of surprises.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:11:36 2021 No.4227484 File: 299 KB, 1844x700, ETUln-seGqXDz0xkZ9f_PrilDXoipUTKsO3nWJc_jtU.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4227026

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:12:12 2021 No.4227500 >>4226341 >Ame is Alex Jones >chemicals making frogs gay turned out to be true >vampires and werewolves are real in the setting Ame is secretly the unknowing god of the setting and whatever crazy shit she's out to uncover will somehow become real.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:13:56 2021 No.4227549 >>4227484 What's with cats being fucking hardcore in TTRPGs?

Anonymous Wed May 26 13:15:33 2021 No.4227601

>>4227316
Normal person wouldn't one day realize vampires and werewolves are real and then proceed to take the red pill instead of shoving their head into sand. Think about it, if you one day saw a dude appear out of nowhere or turn into a bat, you'd think you were drunk, had hallucinations or something like that. I'd say all characters being a bit not right in their heads is about right for them to actually try to dig further into this.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:17:28 2021 No.4227640 >>4227601 Every hunter is a Malk in the making.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:18:12 2021 No.4227656 >>4227549 Cats in WoD have Wits 4, Dex 5, Althetics 4, Brawl 2 which is actually a damn good stat line for a freaking housepet. If you are completely untrained they can give you a run for your money.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:19:09 2021 No.4227677 i have a question that's been bugging me since last night what the fuck did Gura think when she wanted to make her character fight with MAIL? how do you fight with mail? did she want a death note? did she want Hisoka cards-like letters? i don't get it

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:19:23 2021 No.4227686 File: 426 KB, 1084x1800, 20210527_011806.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Currently designing the entire team, just managed to finish Tiara.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:19:43 2021 No.4227697 >>4227442 Depends on if Watoto is male or female. It sounds like Ame hasn't decided yet

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:21:06 2021 No.4227718 >>4227686 You walk around like that in WoD you are likely to get your head ripped off.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:21:28 2021 No.4227728 >>4227686 that's pretty cool, a bit old fashioned for a modern setting but so is Kiara's character premise

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:22:18 2021 No.4227750 >>4227549 >Just give them anything for stats, it doesn't matter. What dumbass is ever going to get into a fight with a fucking housecat that actually involves combat rolls?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:23:02 2021 No.4227764 >>4227677 Paper cuts, son. Paper cuts.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:23:54 2021 No.4227789 >>4227677 ADD shork brain. She sounded like she was just mashing together any ideas that sounded cool. Which to be fair is expected of a first time player

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:25:25 2021 No.4227821 >>4227764 Death by a Thousand Cuts sounds like a really brutal way to go.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:27:20 2021 No.4227866 >>4227061 It was a member's stream

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:29:45 2021 No.4227931 I hope first two solo games are Ina and Kiara so Gura and Ame can actually see how you play this properly. But who am I kidding, Gura probably won't even watch them.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:30:14 2021 No.4227936 File: 12 KB, 474x267, .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4227821

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:32:07 2021 No.4227977 >>4227931 Gura actually seemed legitimately excited to play.

Anonymous Wed May 26 13:32:20 2021 No.4227982

You know, Gura could be the perfect diversion character, hiding in the shadows and skillfully playing her instrument so it bounces the sound off of areas to mask where she really is, like throwing your voice but with a guitar. While she does this Kiara could set up a perfect shot with the specially made gun that Ina made. All of which was set up by Ame finding information and basically leading the creature to the abandoned warehouse.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:32:46 2021 No.4227995 File: 176 KB, 555x414, Theodore_Kaczynski.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4227677

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:33:26 2021 No.4228006 I'm very excited for the lore videos/streams

Anonymous Wed May 26 13:34:24 2021 No.4228023

>>4227750
Having given a housecat a bath once goddamn if they get pissed the only unrealistic part is the damage. Little fuckers are fast and slippery as hell and without something to protect your hands its like trying to hold onto a ball of barbed wire.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:35:17 2021 No.4228043 i missed it can i get a qrd? whens the next one?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:35:21 2021 No.4228045 I forgot gunslinger lets you make short bursts with pistols. This is actually pretty good when you dual wield. I feel like Kiara actually read the book before the stream.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:35:31 2021 No.4228049 >>4227982 Gura's character needs a Rodriguez style banjo gun. It was so obvious I was mad they didn't go for it during the stream.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:36:07 2021 No.4228058 >>4227995 lol

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:36:43 2021 No.4228077 >>4228023 They only have 3 dice for attacking so generally they barely do anything. Only bullshit is 5 HP. Should be 2-3. That pasta is either complete bullshit or that cat had insane rolls.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:38:25 2021 No.4228109 >>4228077 I've been a DM before, when you are the DM the dice gods REALLY want you to kill your PCs, so I can see it happening.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:38:27 2021 No.4228111 File: 79 KB, 1403x1140, 17862547812647124.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm looking forward to Watoto! also goblin*

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:41:09 2021 No.4228179 >>4219777 god has spoken

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:41:15 2021 No.4228183 So one solo game per week and then true game once per two weeks in july right?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:44:14 2021 No.4228245 >>4224283 anon, what are the biological differences between germans and austrians in modern times?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:45:20 2021 No.4228277 >>4228183 Yes, that's Mori's plan for now.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:45:31 2021 No.4228285 >>4228183 That's the plan, though with the girls scheduling abilities....

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:47:02 2021 No.4228316 File: 1.28 MB, 1463x1935, 3988jfdrm3290.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4228245 One is more genetically closer to the austrian painter

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:48:49 2021 No.4228359 >>4207502 That's pretty typical in my experience. The average TTRPG player these days (i.e., normalfag) puts literally no thought into character creation until they actually have to make a character.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:50:45 2021 No.4228397 >>4228245 the difference isn't genetic, it's the attitude. austrians are scum

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:55:15 2021 No.4228492 File: 267 KB, 1565x436, Division Six.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what Compacts do you think will show up in their campaign?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:55:27 2021 No.4228500 >>4228359 For a newbie CC doesn't make much sense until you actually play a little, so let's cut her some slack. I assume Mori will 1:1 her and let her revise her character afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:58:02 2021 No.4228550 >>4218913 >>4212445 >Yuul gets injured and can't drive >Second best driver is blind

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:59:26 2021 No.4228587 >>4228500 I'm not criticizing her, because the fact she at least thought of a type of character beforehand already makes her better than the average player in my experience.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 13:59:55 2021 No.4228593 >>4227549 Agility/Dexterity is usually a very good stat and cats have that. And some systems don't really have a good way to represent how unthreatening a cat's attacks are.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:00:37 2021 No.4228611

>>4227324
Isn't it a valid concept to play with? A chuuni idiot influenced by media, thinking he'll do some vampire hunting, throwing them around and showing ninja skills he saw in vidya/movies. Only to piss himself the first time he sees something that can punch through a brick wall or catch up to a car on foot. And from there on that character can try to match his imagination, but this time in a more grounded way. Sure, that's not original at all, but it seems like a functional character that also won't clash with roles the other three would have.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:03:06 2021 No.4228665 >>4227076 Problem is that stuff got changed, and some shit doesn't translate over well from the recount of what happened in the session to showing the story, like Urobuchi's character killing the DM's waifu by getting insanely lucky rolls.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:05:24 2021 No.4228711 >>4228492 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYUM4hOECLE Afghanistan has some decent spooky stories.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:08:00 2021 No.4228763 File: 234 KB, 1920x1080, [SubsPlease] Shadows House - 01 (1080p) [4C0E599F].mkv_snapshot_20.49.940.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >female GM They are 150% meeting a Fae at some point.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:08:23 2021 No.4228772 >>4212470 I love this sheet a lot. It fits extremely well with the backstory she had written up. Also somewhat sad that she's the only one that put as much thought into her concept.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:10:12 2021 No.4228811 >>4212470 Somebody tell Mori that you can't have more than 3 dots in a skill at character creation.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:10:25 2021 No.4228817 >>4228763 If they end up meeting a changeling they are all going to die.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:10:41 2021 No.4228828 >>4226989 >archive.nyafuu.org/vt >ThingsCoverShouldDo.txt

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:11:26 2021 No.4228843 >>4228817 Same can be said about vampires and werewolves to be fair.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:12:26 2021 No.4228869 >>4227697 She was consistent in calling him "he" though.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:12:58 2021 No.4228883 >>4228843 depends on the vamp, and it REALLY depends on the werewolf and if its pack is around.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:14:15 2021 No.4228911 >>4228869 Ame was very clearly also thinking of Alex Jones

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:14:40 2021 No.4228919 >not, battletech COME ON!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:17:28 2021 No.4228966 >>4228883 Aren't WoD werewolves huge and extremely devastating even to weaker vampires? Or only some of them are like the ones shown in VtM:B?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:19:27 2021 No.4228999 >>4217516 >not Warhammer 40K good 40k is fucking cringe

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:19:42 2021 No.4229003 >>4228966 The thing with Werewolves is that they are all combat monsters by nature. Now I'm personally not familiar with Werewolf the Forsaken but Apocalypse Werewolves will rip unprepared Hunters and Vampires to shreds.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:21:08 2021 No.4229028

>>4228966
At character creation werewolf can be the strongest fighter. Minimally above full combat vamp. The thing is werewolves aren't immortal so actually old vampires will destroy them.

But yes, a combat specced Garou would murder the four of them even if they had silver weapons.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:22:28 2021 No.4229050 >>4229003 >they are all combat monsters by nature They aren't. You can make shaman or diplomatic wolves too.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:25:24 2021 No.4229100 >>4228817 So what do the powerlevels look like? Changeling>Mages>Vampires>Demons>Hunters?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:25:32 2021 No.4229103 >>4229003 In apocalypse a single werewolf is an even match for an entire team of vampires just by using their innate abilities. They got nerfed significantly in forsaken but a single werewolf can still tear through a hunter squad without much effort.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:25:44 2021 No.4229108 >>4224283 >Selphius is vtubing now wtf didn't know. Always like her covers and work with Frozen Starfall

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:25:47 2021 No.4229112 >>4201575 >#MYTHRAPE Just got to this part in the VOD. Calli really can't catch a break. The teacher vibes she gave off as she loooked over the sheets was really sweet though. You can tell she used to do that for a living.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:27:30 2021 No.4229146 >>4229112 Ame muting herself to die laughing for a solid thirty seconds was possibly the best part.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:27:45 2021 No.4229150
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Questions for those who know the lore of this universe, I only played the OG bloodlines videogame where I played as a Malkavian.
How would a human even have a chance in hell vs anything dangerous in this setting?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:28:50 2021 No.4229171 >>4201575 At least they have a unofficial tag now for all shitposts and lewds #MYTHRAPE

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:28:55 2021 No.4229176 >>4225979 >>4226056 >>4226517 It's the internet age anons, roll the dice and try finding a group to play via specialized sites or discord servers, it's toying with RNG but once you find a good group, you can just keep playing with them.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:29:18 2021 No.4229187

>>4229100
It's something like (mages?) > werewolves > demons >vampire =changeling = Prometheans. Mages are hard to pin down because they are kinda like batman, if they know what they are up against and have time to prepare they will always win, but they are also fragile humans so if they get jumped on they won't last much longer than a regular human.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:29:49 2021 No.4229198 File: 31 KB, 1280x768, theImageAnswersTheQuestion.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4229150

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:30:06 2021 No.4229202 >>4229150 it seemed to me that large caliber firearms (eg. battle rifles) did decent damage to vampires in the one game in this setting I saw.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:30:57 2021 No.4229222 >>4229146 I can imagine the girls dunking on Calli after the stream while she screamed the entire book of swears into a pillow. It must've been glorious.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:31:14 2021 No.4229227 >>4229150 Assuming they don't have a conspiracy backing them up, insane amounts of prep together with teamwork and flying under the creature's radar until the last moment.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:31:18 2021 No.4229229 >>4229150 Planning mainly. This game is way more about figuring out what the main threat is and making a plan to kill it quickly and efficiently rather than having big boss fights. Minions/Rival gangs are the bulk of the combat encounters.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:31:32 2021 No.4229234 >>4229150 Good, bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:31:58 2021 No.4229244

>>4229150
Guns. Big guns with phosphorus rounds. The main thing that protects the supernaturals is that knowledge of them isn't widespread. If humanity got wind of them and actually started organising and cataloging their weaknesses they'll fuck them up quick.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:32:26 2021 No.4229257

>>4229100
It's complicated. All of them have multiple clans/traditions/etc.

In general vamps are top of the ladder just because they can manipulate humans the best. Any non retarded vampire will have a private army and ghouls.

Mages with prep time are also completely broken.

But in pure powerlevels Demons are probably #1. Changelings are not top unless you count true Fae but at that point you could very well count methuselah vampires.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:32:54 2021 No.4229265

>>4229028
>>4229003
Thanks. So am I correct to understand that vampires have much bigger difference between some shithead that got sucked and embraced yesterday and a 200+ year old monsterscompared to difference between a young and older wolf? And from Hunter PoV, while a weak vampire is possible for just a bunch of people with shotguns and smgs, a werewolf would need at least something like army-grade armament like landmines, high-caliber machineguns and sniper rifles and even then the chances would be slim?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:33:49 2021 No.4229291 File: 453 KB, 750x750, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4229050 Yes you can, they are still combat monsters when in Crinos form. It gives +4 Strength, +1 Dex, +3 Stamina and natural weapons dealing aggravated damage.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:33:56 2021 No.4229293 >>4229150 Guns, explosives, ambushes, many vs one, a lot of planning. It's not easy. But I doubt Mori will throw them at real monsters that fast.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:35:11 2021 No.4229312 >>4229150 Guns and planning. Vampires literally burn in the sun and are in an unnatural coma during the day.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:38:10 2021 No.4229378 >>4229100 The real answer is that it depends, but by and large I'd place changelings and fae on a similar playing field. Who defeats who is largely about who has the advantage on the other in a situation like that.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:39:36 2021 No.4229418 >>4229150 Prep time. Ordinance. Teamwork.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:40:14 2021 No.4229432

>>4229265
Vampires are like a caste society. Young vamp who got embraced recently is something like a goon from Blade. Old vamp will be a millionaire commanding some corp from the shadows and have a legion of followers including other vamps enthralled by blood bond. Vampires are basically shadow rulers of humanity.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:43:02 2021 No.4229501

>>4229265
Werewolves are somewhat complicated in how they get stronger with time, some of the gifts they receive from spirits when they achieve a higher renown are weird to say the least.
Also 200 years is old, but still considered "middle age" in vampire society, only after ~300-400 years are they considered Elders
>And from Hunter PoV, while a weak vampire is possible for just a bunch of people with shotguns and smgs, a werewolf would need at least something like army-grade armament like landmines, high-caliber machineguns and sniper rifles and even then the chances would be slim?
A careless vampire can be taken out without a single combat weapon. It doesn't matter how weak or strong they are, Being defacto dead 50% of the day makes them "easy" to kill for Hunters that do their research.
Now at Night it would be different but even then a few people with shotguns can take out vampires when they aren't careful.
If you are fighting a werewolf in war-form and do not know how to fight werebeasts you are dead. However in human form they are not any more sturdy than regular humans.
>>4229432
Atleast that's what vampires are telling themselves, there's a reason they uphold the Masquerade

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:43:09 2021 No.4229504 >>4227995 wew

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:44:10 2021 No.4229528 >>4229501 If vamps were an open secret humans would line themselves to be one for that immortality.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:46:18 2021 No.4229582 >>4229528 So why do all vampires uphold the Masquerade? It's because they literally got their asses kicked and got burned at the stake back during the Inquisition and that was before modern weapons became a thing.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:46:50 2021 No.4229597

>>4229265
>So am I correct to understand that vampires have much bigger difference between some shithead that got sucked and embraced yesterday and a 200+ year old monsterscompared to difference between a young and older wolf?
Not really. Werewolves have a higher starting powerlevel, but they gain strength at about the same rate as vampires. The main difference is that werewolves are mortal creatures that will eventually grow old and die, while vampires are undead creatures that will live eternally as long as nothing kills them, so vampires just keep growing stronger while there's a hard cap on how much power a werewolf can gain in thier lifetime
>And from Hunter PoV, while a weak vampire is possible for just a bunch of people with shotguns and smgs, a werewolf would need at least something like army-grade armament like landmines, high-caliber machineguns and sniper rifles and even then the chances would be slim?
Well, lore wise, yes. Mechanically however its very possible for you to kill a werewolf with nothing but a can of bear mace and a m1 garand.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:49:52 2021 No.4229661 >>4229150 Also Hunters have mild superpowers/superweapons.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:50:00 2021 No.4229668

>>4229528
No, people would try to study them and replicate their immortality without the other side effects. This is kind of a big plot point in the w20 reboot before the whole project got canned, and is the reason why despite some alphabet soup agencies discovering that vampires exist they haven't gone public with it yet.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:51:49 2021 No.4229720 >>4229100 Mages are the most powerful. Changelings have Talecrafting, which is pretty bonkers.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:52:16 2021 No.4229731

>>4229501
>It doesn't matter how weak or strong they are, Being defacto dead 50% of the day makes them "easy" to kill for Hunters that do their research.
I don't remember that part in the lore at all, do all vampires completely turn off between sunrise and sunset without any option available to them? They can't stay awake even in some weakened form within some fully closed-off place like a cellar or subway where the sun doesn't reach at all? I should really go read all those books Mori had linked under the stream when I have spare time, I like reading lore stuff anyway even if I have noone to play with.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:53:18 2021 No.4229758

>>4229668
Please rewrite your post so that it makes sense.
What does vampire immortality have to do with Werewolf 20th Anniversary which released like 9 years?
If you mean vampire 5th edition it wasn't cancelled/canned. The thing that got delayed indefinitely is the Bloodlines sequel.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:54:35 2021 No.4229792

>>4229668
>the reason why despite some alphabet soup agencies discovering that vampires exist they haven't gone public with it yet
I think one of the book stated they speculate public opinion might be sympathetic towards vampires. Imagine trying to hunt down some bloodsuckers while Unlives Matter are protesting in front of your headquarters.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:54:50 2021 No.4229800

>>4229731
Nope. The curse of the vampire is supernatural in nature so even if they are miles underground, if the sun is shining on the surface they'll feel a supernatural urge to lay still and slumber. Some vampires can resist it for a short while but it takes resources and willpower so it's not something they can do willy nilly.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:55:11 2021 No.4229814

>>4229731
They are very sleepy during the day. But you can get rid of that with merits or special disciplines like some of the stuff Ordo Dracul is working on.

But honestly the easiest way is just to charm someone rich then ghoul them and live in a well protected mansion. Vampires are the best at manipulating humans.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:56:13 2021 No.4229837

>>4229731
Most of my knowledge is VtM not VtR (i.e. the older edition) so may not be 100%

Vampires get super sleepy during the day - they can try and wake up/stay up, but it's only really viable for a couple of seconds. Normally they'll have a bunch of defences/traps to protect them while they sleep, and a bunch of mortal/ghoul servants.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:56:29 2021 No.4229841

>>4229528
It's an open secret already in the higher orders of government that vampires and other supernatural entities exist. Hell, one of the larger conspiracies a hunter can join is operated (ostensibly) as a shadow arm of the US government. Basically like joining the men in black. Hyperweapons and mind wipe chips included.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:56:37 2021 No.4229843

>>4229731
>They can't stay awake even in some weakened form within some fully closed-off place like a cellar or subway where the sun doesn't reach at all?
Basically yes.
They have the possibility of waking up when something disturbs them but that is a rather hard roll to succeed in.
Also even if they wake up, during the day their dicepools are limited to their humanity rating, which doesn't tend to be very high.
> I should really go read all those books Mori had linked under the stream when I have spare time, I like reading lore stuff anyway even if I have noone to play with.
If you like lore, i'd recommend going with VtM/oWoD. But it doesn't really matter for the game Mori is playing since everyone with a brain will just utilize Hunter's own rules to make discount monsters rather having to learn several splats by heart.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 14:56:55 2021 No.4229852 >>4229597 >vampires just keep growing stronger Don't they have a tendency to ossify in their preferences and learning abilities due to them being corpses? I thought powerlevel of older vampires is determined mainly by their generation.

Anonymous Wed May 26 14:59:44 2021 No.4229922

>>4229731
>do all vampires completely turn off between sunrise and sunset without any option available to them
In both new and old WoD no, but it is more difficult and tiresome. For instance, Beckett is mentioned to walk outside to test how long he can stay under sunlight. Some of the more traditionally Assamites try staying awake to perform namaz. Then there are thinblood who can live a nearly human life.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:02:33 2021 No.4229972 >>4229852 nWoD threw away generations and Cain. Instead you have blood potency that gets stronger with age. Everything else is the same like diablerie etc.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:03:54 2021 No.4230004 >>4229731 Some anon posted their WoD archive some threads ago, with both oWoD and CofD. Here you go https://mega.nz/folder/ePQ1BKhJ#RCosRCh59Ki2Mpb1M9H3Uw

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:04:57 2021 No.4230028 >>4201575 >Playing World of Trannies Then again all tabletop games have been taken over by them

Anonymous Wed May 26 15:04:58 2021 No.4230027

>>4229852
Generation determined potential and "powerlevel ceiling". And it rarely really matters.
An ancient 12th gen is way more dangerous than a 1 year old 6th gen.
>Don't they have a tendency to ossify in their preferences and learning abilities due to them being corpses?
That's true, but what they lose in ability to interact with the modern world they make up in personal power, supernatural abilities and social influence in kindred society.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:20:10 2021 No.4230373 >>4201575 isnt it impressive that for once calli is doing something not only for herself?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:21:37 2021 No.4230429 File: 8 KB, 184x256, 1621988082035.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4230028 >>4230373

Anonymous Wed May 26 15:21:56 2021 No.4230445

>>4230004
Thank you. That's a lot of books, hopefully there's enough interesting pieces there. I'll probably read more on Hunter first to have more context for upcoming streams.

>>4229972
Wait what? So no more vampire gods that are waiting to take over the world? Damn I loved to read on that part of the oWoD lore back in the day.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:25:54 2021 No.4230585 >>4230429 ok, crackbeats

Anonymous Wed May 26 15:26:03 2021 No.4230593

I used to play TTRPG back in high school. I mean, I did for a little bit. But I got feed up when I realized that the DM would often come with some form of plot armor to save us from our own fuckups. I made a deliberately bad decision as a final test to see if I could get myself killed and maybe take a team member or two with me, but it turned out get a good result out of it

Is this normal? Will a DM usually bend causality backwards to save the player's asses in any way they are allowed to by the rule set?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:26:54 2021 No.4230629 >>4230445 Theres a reason why most people say the lore for nWoD is way worse than oWoD

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:26:56 2021 No.4230631 >>4230445 Chronicles is more of a toolbox to make your own vampire setting instead of being tied to an official one like old ones.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:27:29 2021 No.4230648 >>4230593 Depends on the DM but it's definitely possible. Some really love to kill players while others are afraid to do so. And everything in between.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:27:57 2021 No.4230670 >>4230593 Its usually normal to go easy on new players, but if the DM has a discussion with the group that they are going to play with high lethality then people can drop like flies.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:28:03 2021 No.4230677 >>4230593 It’s considered bad Hmong to not let players suffer the consequences of bad decisions.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:28:08 2021 No.4230681 >>4230648 What type do you think Calli is?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:28:57 2021 No.4230730 >>4227076 What's the name of this thing? Is there like a replay or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:29:05 2021 No.4230735 >>4230677 Gming not Hmong

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:29:10 2021 No.4230737 >>4230648 I honestly don't know what happens if a party gets wiped out because of that pussy DM.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:30:06 2021 No.4230775 >>4230028 This is the 2008 version before any of the crap made it in.

Anonymous Wed May 26 15:30:55 2021 No.4230810
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>>4230681
She sounded perfectly willing to kill everyone in Session 1. I think for the character intro sessions there will be a lot of guidance and aid, but after that it's gonna be "are you SURE you want to do that"s.

Anonymous Wed May 26 15:31:04 2021 No.4230816

>>4230681
I think she's going to go easy to begin with in terms of challenge since all the players are new.
She really wants this to work out so she's probably going to be reluctant to kill players in case someone gets salty and wants to drop out.
I think being somewhat reluctant to kill players isn't a bad thing, especially for beginners. There is a point where it becomes too much though.

Anonymous Wed May 26 15:32:35 2021 No.4230873

>>4230593
There's a blogpost about this called Sacrament of Death.
Basically, the amount of time you spend creating your sheet makes it hard to kill your player's characters, because it is demands effort that is then wasted, and because to join back in you'd need to make another one. This is compounded by the fact that some RPGs sell themselves as being ultra-gritty and deadly, but in practice GMs avoid that due to the aforementioned investment.

In other words: the easier it is to make a character, the easier for a GM to kill the players.

OSR games are properly deadly because character creation takes 5 minutes tops.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:34:23 2021 No.4230932 Wow, I can’t believe they’re actually gonna play Beast: the primordial.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:34:39 2021 No.4230944 >>4230629 Honestly I disagree. oWoD lore was good but for an RPG game it was also restrictive in a lot of ways. nWoD is way more open. I didn't like 1e of Requiem but 2e is great.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:35:17 2021 No.4230964 >>4230677 Maybe I was too harsh, we were a group of newbies so he didn't want us to get frustrated and quit, but him going easy on me made me quit kek. Being a DM must be hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:35:36 2021 No.4230970 >>4230593 I can understand this, especially if DM prefers to create a good story to some quick fun.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:36:28 2021 No.4230995 >>4230810 Yeah, it feel like when they get out of tutorial she's not going to plot armor them too much. We'll see.

Anonymous Wed May 26 15:37:33 2021 No.4231028

>>4230629
>>4230944
I know that a significant chunk of WoD is tied to the lore, but honestly both oWoD and nWoD have so many problems that I'd be more willing to do the ol' "Write Your Own Lore and just keep the mechanics" bit.
If the lore is going to be low-quality FF.net tier, it's going to be because I'M a low-quality FF.net tier writer, not because I'm using somebody else's.

Anonymous Wed May 26 15:38:16 2021 No.4231047
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>>4217516
In warhammer 40k you have werewolves a.k.a. Space Wolves and you have vampires a.k.a Blood Angels you Black Templar murderhobo.

Anonymous Wed May 26 15:38:22 2021 No.4231050

>>4230873
Older versions of D&D were based off Warhammer-like war games (specifically chainmail), so killing characters was not that big of a deal. Then Curse of Stradh/Ravenloft was written and it started to influence future versions and games into being narrative focused.

Call of Cthulhu can still kill/make your character go crazy though. But, that system is as combat focused.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:39:38 2021 No.4231092 >>4230629 To me oWoD lore is a good fit for comics and video games while nWoD is better as an RPG setting.

Anonymous Wed May 26 15:41:30 2021 No.4231144

>>4230593
Some systems like WFRP have Fate Points which are build-in plot armor. General consensus is that (unless it's one-shot) GM should not try to kill thier players, and maybe protect them from anythng but consequences of thier own action. Some include in it very bad rolls (or good rolls by GM). Oh and many will also just outright never intervine in PvP.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:42:18 2021 No.4231174 >>4231047 Anybody shitposting about 40K in a positive light is almost definitely somebody that saw Astartes on youtube once and then binged a few TTS Emperor videos, and has zero exposure to the rest of the series. This goes tenfold outside of /tg/.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:43:58 2021 No.4231220 >>4230775 Anon i have some bad news for you. WoD has always been extremely leftist

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:45:45 2021 No.4231267 >>4231174 And next you tell them that the Imperium is not supposed to be "good"

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:45:48 2021 No.4231269 >>4230445 nWoD is intentionally painted in broad strokes to make it more customizable and for more coherent crossovers between different games in the same setting.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:49:11 2021 No.4231384 >>4231267 No, because I'm one of those people that I just described. I'm just also aware that 40k is much more insane than I care to learn about, and choose to leave it at that.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:50:08 2021 No.4231426 >>4230810 Only weak first time GM's gives plot armor, if they mess up and then dont run, they die, with plenty of narrative hints that signal that option.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:51:24 2021 No.4231461 >>4231220 Yeah, but it was old style punk rock save the trees leftist, which is way more tolerable than the modern stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:52:29 2021 No.4231493 >>4231267 And finish it with a supplement that describes space marine dancing moves.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:53:03 2021 No.4231513 The lethality of a game is totally up to the DM and the players. If they're having a good time running a campaign where no one ever dies than it's fine. If you can't think of consequences other than death, you need to do your DMing reps

Anonymous Wed May 26 15:54:51 2021 No.4231562

Let me tell you a story.
>Spend two hours with my group making a party.
>DM happily helps us create things.
>Next week we gather.
>Half an hour in we are TPK.
>"Gee that was fun guys! See you next week for character creation!"
Everyone apart from me dropped TTRPGs all together, and I have never played with that DM ever again. I have heard he has continued to do this with groups, sometimes his campaigns last two sessions, but that's at max. Everyone he played with just drops TTRPGs. Being brutal for no reason is a dumb thing to do.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:56:23 2021 No.4231615 File: 10 KB, 363x138, sure.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4231220 I dont know about that

Anonymous Wed May 26 15:56:52 2021 No.4231631

>>4231513
Hi, I have no experience in TTRPG but I'm really excited to watch holoEN do it. Anyways, what do you mean by other consequences? Is it okay for "losing all ur HP" to lead to something like passing out?? or is it a hard rule that 0 HP = death for most DMs.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 15:58:01 2021 No.4231678 >>4231562 Both extremes are bad. Unless you're very clear from the get go about it being an extreme, if the players know and are okay with it then it's fine.

Anonymous Wed May 26 15:59:44 2021 No.4231731

>>4231615
Anon please
>Common perception place punks, gang-members, maladjusted immigrants rejected by the society that should protect them, and placard-carrying and Molotov-wielding rioters among the Brujah. While the clan definitely includes substantial numbers of vocal and visible outsiders, their desire for rebellion reaches as deep as the fraudster ripping off his own company, the lawyer representing the poor pro bono, the neo-Nazi claiming to be “alt-right,” and the basement-dweller downloading thousands of movies illegally for redistribution on streaming sites. Fledglings Embraced to fight and protest are commonly known as rabble.
Is literally the introduction of Brujah in v5 as well

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:00:06 2021 No.4231746

>>4231631
Consequences like capture, or the loss of some of your items, or something else along those lines. In my campaign, my players lost to a bunch of skeletons; they were then made to make an oath to lead them to where they may acquire milk. Which they did, taking them to a village they knew; where the skellies would come next season. The players were released as they did good on their part of the oath, then prepared to defend the village against what they assumed would be a skeleton army attack. They came to trade, actually, and it was plenty of fun since it gave insight into who the skellies were and what they wanted. Players proceeded to help them out later on the campaign.

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:04:35 2021 No.4231922

>>4231631
Its up to the system and DM, I normaly consider 0 hp = knocked out/bleeding out and intelligent enemies will normally take them captive and/or rob them blind, where as a large monster would make one or two members into a snack and the rest would have the chance to wake up and make a run for it during its meal.

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:05:08 2021 No.4231971

>>4231631
So there are games that explicitly have rules like that. And in games that don't do that, you usually don't go straight to dead - for instance in D&D you go unconscious at 0 and have some form of buffer before you die. This can be used to say things like "you've hit zero and go unconscious, you wake up in a cell"

But that aside, remember that rules are always subordinate to the enjoyment of the group. This typically is expressed as "the DM can override the rules" but more realistically it's something like "the rules can be ignored or overwritten if it's more fun for everyone", at least at a good table.

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:05:14 2021 No.4231973

>>4231426
Something I've noticed with vidya players first-timing a TTRPG is that they don't even contemplate the idea of running away from combat. You can outright tell them "you are allowed to run" and they'll still hold their ground because in their head, if I put the enemy in front of them, it must be beatable, right?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:06:01 2021 No.4232019 >>4231631 Depends on the system, too. Some like Legends of the Wulin just say you're taken out, no more. Cool thing is that this goes for enemies too, so there's recurring villains and such.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:07:01 2021 No.4232063 >>4231973 Even many experienced players hate running. Never count on your players running.

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:07:56 2021 No.4232098

>>4231746
>>4231922
>>4231971
>>4232019
Really interesting, thanks. Calli seems to keep implying she isn't afraid of killing the team off or at least sending something really tough at them. I'm excited to see how this all plays out and how she plays around with this stuff.

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:08:06 2021 No.4232105

>>4231631
Consider the following situation. The party is investigating some nobleman who is plotting to overthrow the king. An NPC is willing to give players evidense. The party fucks something up which attracts the noble's attention.
The cheapest move is to do a TPK. On the other hand DM might kill off the NPC informant who's the players' only lead thus far. Or they might be framed for a crime adding an additional obstacle.
>>4231973
>if I put the enemy in front of them, it must be beatable, right?
Plenty of vidya has some form of really tough enemies in certain places signalling that this is not an area you're supposed to go to yet.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:11:05 2021 No.4232219 >>4231731 And then look at Ventrue or Tremere. It's almost like this setting gives you different options. And nWoD is completely different anyways.

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:11:30 2021 No.4232237

>>4232105
>On the other hand DM might kill off the NPC informant who's the players' only lead thus far. Or they might be framed for a crime adding an additional obstacle.
Yep. Another classic move is to attack something the players have grown attached to. Say they have a cool mansion, have the enemies capture and occupy it or even burn it down. Or the villain captures a friend and holds them hostage.

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:13:06 2021 No.4232300

>>4231973
Sometimes you need to make the encounter fall back instead, where it thinks ''this amount of effort for killing these nobodies are not worth it'', but having a loved NPC break and run away or lose a limb or two can make groups realize they need to run.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:13:08 2021 No.4232302 >>4225614 >>4227324 I do wonder if Gura might scrap dark lady at some point before the session 1 proper and make basically Ethan when she realizes Hunter is a bit more like a survival horror.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:14:13 2021 No.4232361 >>4231973 People don't run because the rules for running away are nonexistent.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:15:16 2021 No.4232402 >>4227324 Not with those stats.

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:18:02 2021 No.4232503

>>4232300
One group I played with saw one of their npc companions get one shot and decided "WE MUST HAVE REVENGE" instead of getting the message that they would all die. I was the only one to back off while the rest of them just died. Sometimes people are just stupid.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:22:12 2021 No.4232651 >>4232503 That is understandable, most players just want a heroic death, that is why you wound the NPC so they need to save his live by running away.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:24:15 2021 No.4232732 >>4232219 My point is that v5 still mentions neo-nazis being part of the brujah makeup. That doesn't change that WoD was always leftist

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:25:24 2021 No.4232763 Expecting the players to do anything specific is a rookie GM mistake.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:29:31 2021 No.4232906 >>4232237 Or precious, valuable, or sentimental value gear. People can get really attached to text on paper if it's been their favorite weapon for 3 months.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:30:05 2021 No.4232935 Expecting the players to not start a bakery and live a modest life as the work crumbles around them is a rookie GM mistake.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:30:20 2021 No.4232940 >>4232763 "Not die" seems just about as unspecific as you can get, yet players somehow manage to pull it off consistently.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:32:22 2021 No.4233009 >>4232763 Railroading it bad but consequences for both action and inaction is necessary for having a world that feels alive

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:33:28 2021 No.4233056

>>4232940
"not die" is way different than "I expect you to run away from this thing before it kills you." It's why players will be very careful around a hole with spikes at the bottom because they know that's lethal, but will expect to be able to kill the Ogre if they just get in one more good hit because surely the enemies are killable.

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:35:21 2021 No.4233122

>>4233009
It's a bit more nuanced than that. Railroading is bad when it makes the players feel bad. Which it often does, but sometimes a mild amount of it is necessary, for the DM's sanity if nothing else. There are also beer and pretzels groups that would never do anything if not railroaded into it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:35:42 2021 No.4233131 >>4232237 It's bad long term if a DM keeps doing that every time the players get attached to something. Do it enough and your players will start building nothing but orphaned murderhobos.

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:37:34 2021 No.4233176

>>4233009
It should be clear that things happen because the world does not actually revolve around the players. If they fuck around in the woods for five sessions while villagers continue to tell them about the orc warlord in the hills gaining strength, they shouldn't be surprised when he eventually takes over and pillages the local area. The players werent punished, but their inaction had a negative impact on the world.

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:38:09 2021 No.4233192

>>4233056
>You shoot the Ogre with your Solothurn S-18/1000 rifle and hit it in the right eyeball. You see the armour piercing bullet bounce off harmlessly and the deformed remains of the round trace a lazy arc before hitting the dirt.
If at this point the rogue still thinks slashing at the ogre's ankles with a box cutter is a good idea then he deserves to die.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:38:14 2021 No.4233196 >>4230737 You start a new campaign or continue the general story but with different characters e.g. the first group of characters gets wiped by a vampire, so the second group has to investigate the death of the first group and hunt the same vampire.

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:38:21 2021 No.4233198

>>4233131
Absolutely. This was specifically an alternative to killing the party. If you blow up everything the players like, they'll quickly stop liking things. Which is why I first suggested occupying the place - because that means they could take it back.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:39:44 2021 No.4233245 >>4233176 It's perfectly fine to run a game that revolves around the players. They're just different styles of game and as long as everyone has a good time there's no issue.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:42:05 2021 No.4233316 >>4233009 It's impossible to put players in the world and say "do your thing" and expect the plot to move foward. A tiny amount of railroad is always necessary when done properly

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:42:15 2021 No.4233320 >>4233009 Railroading tends to be a consequence of poor scenario design. Expecting the player to follow a "plot" instead of designing for player agency.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:44:07 2021 No.4233371 >>4233176 You can't say that the world doesn't revolve around the players when bad things only happen if the players don't get involved.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:44:28 2021 No.4233386 >>4230681 What I gather from this character creation session is that Mori is the sort of GM that doesn't want to say no to her players.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:45:44 2021 No.4233427 >>4233386 She's probably being lenient cause they are all learning

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:47:29 2021 No.4233485

>>4233316
Same anon here, just got more things to say
Theres railroading like puting time limits for the characters, like an in game deadline, or making npcs ask teh characters to do something. Basicaly having the world "shape" the path the players should follow, and even if they dont do, the world will react to that. There's then the bad railroading, where you just go "No, you have to do that thing" to the players, a sin i admit to have commited in my earlier days of gm'ing

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:48:42 2021 No.4233526 >>4230681 She feels like a rule of cool DM where anything can be resolved with enough creative ideas, duck tape and explosions.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:49:04 2021 No.4233537 >>4233386 Yes is generally preferable to no when GMing. Specifically, "yes and".

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:49:15 2021 No.4233542

>>4233371
Oh, you misunderstand. If the players werent there, the bad things would still happen. They just also are in the area. It was a low resolution example to give an idea of how player inaction can have negative consequences without being explicitly railroady.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:49:32 2021 No.4233550 >>4233485 How do you even do a good one then?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:51:06 2021 No.4233599 >>4233542 So the world still revolves around them because no one else other than bad guys does anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:52:01 2021 No.4233624 >>4233550 I meant to say that the first type of railroading is the "good" type, not very invasive, where it doesnt really feel like railroading if done right

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:52:01 2021 No.4233625 >>4233386 You generally don't want to straight up say no to a player. It should be "Yes, but"

Anonymous Wed May 26 16:52:16 2021 No.4233637

>>4233485
If your players are thoroughly uninterested in the shape of your world, the group needs to talk shit over and maybe revise the game. If your party chooses to ignore the Lich's legions, the best response is "okay what kind of game do we want to play because there's been a misunderstanding", not say okay then kill them all a month later (even if that greentext is pretty funny).

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:55:12 2021 No.4233715 >>4233599 Small villages don't typically have the resources to deal with a dedicated orc invasion.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:56:56 2021 No.4233747 >>4233715 Small villages aren't the only ones interested in fighting back orc invasions.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:59:08 2021 No.4233807 Well, Chad is already dead, as told by Ina right now.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 16:59:43 2021 No.4233823 File: 22 KB, 299x234, 1506881861375.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can't wait for next one already. All this waiting til real game is gonna be suffering.

Anonymous Wed May 26 17:01:15 2021 No.4233891

>>4233599
Sure, if a world only had the group, idle NPC's and ''bad guys'' then that will be the case, but chances are that if the group dont do something then others will be sent out to do it.
>>4233715
Take this Orc invation, if the players dont deal with it then the local lord would summon his armed forces and any mercenaries such as the group and march on the region, this would result in ether the lord winning and gaining prestige or losing and the entire kingdom is now in danger as more orc joins this WAAAH.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 17:04:08 2021 No.4233983 >>4233823 Yes. But also hype and anticipation building. Will also let the artists focus on each girl for their 1:1's and build up a huge arsenal of art assets for the actual sessions.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 17:04:10 2021 No.4233986 >>4233747 Sure, but only after a few villagers got killed and a few farms razed.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 17:06:51 2021 No.4234082 I just want Watoto to be a mix of Alex Jones and Death Grips. I'VE SEEN FOOTAGE. I STAY NOIDED.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 17:34:24 2021 No.4235190 >>4233537 t. Doormatt Mercer

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 17:49:31 2021 No.4235745 >>4235190 I swear, is there some sort of fa/tg/uy equivalent of Godwin's law for Matt Mercer? You fuckers cannot keep this dude out of your heads.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 17:49:53 2021 No.4235751 >>4233526 Is there any issue though that cannot be resolved with enough TNT?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 18:57:04 2021 No.4237972 >>4227549 Wasn't there a post about a guy doing the math and learning that a few hundred cats could potentially kill Cthulhu?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 18:58:08 2021 No.4237993 >>4227995 >Always on ya damn phone

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 18:59:56 2021 No.4238041 >>4237972 TASUKETE NIGGERMAN

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 19:04:32 2021 No.4238187 >>4237972 Unless they're the cats of Ulthar or they have a sense of humour a sane DM would not let that pass cause it's obviously nonsensical. Then again why should eldritch Horror make sense?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 26 19:17:48 2021 No.4238605 >>4238187 As soon as you awaken to the realization that cats are in fact eldritch beings themselves, it all makes sense.

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