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41816738 No.41816738 [Reply] [Original]

Does management really think people will still fall for this when the grandeur has long been lost, watch them never collab and only interact once a year in big collabs

>> No.41816782

>>41816738
Go back.

>> No.41816799

fanservice

>> No.41817002

micometfags are rattled huh

>> No.41817155

>>41816738
Who gives a fuck whether the 3DPD roasties behind them had a fallout or not? Pekora and Miko are BFF and will be BFF forever.

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>>41817155
>Pekora and Miko are BFF and will be BFF forever.

>> No.41817303

>>41817155
Anon it kinda does matter, either they are BFF or they are estranged coworkers. You can't be both convincingly.

>> No.41817762

>>41816738
No more forced pairings, no more forced groups.

You think Umisea would be the wake-up call, but Cover really don't learn from their past mistakes

>> No.41819279

>>41816738
go back

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>>41817002
rent free

>> No.41819629

>>41817155
i still dont understand the origin behind this 'roastie' term do anyone ever go in themselves to confirm what it actually looks like

>> No.41820465

>>41817303
Nah, Pekomiko's voice actors might be 'estranged coworkers' but Pekora and Miko are BFF. This is one of the reason why Holo is superior to Niji, Holo is more like half anime and anime girls don't do any of those lame real world workplace drama stuffs, while Niji is basically a bunch of normal streamers acting like normal people.

>> No.41820901

>>41820465
>bring Niji out of nowhere
Holy rent free

>> No.41822601

>>41820465
>Pekora and Miko are BFF.
proof?

>> No.41822693

Micoment fans in shambles rn fr fr

>> No.41822694

>>41820465
The characters can't be BFF if the actors aren't willing to play the part.

>> No.41822742

>>41822601
I was visited by Holy Spirit and he said me this

>> No.41822841

OP is right. What the actual fuck? When was the last time they actually interacted and showed actual mutual appreciation? Hasn't it been like, years? People in the yt comments are eating that shit right up regardless, so I guess it will be a win for Hololive, but I wonder what are Pekora's feelings towards the song.

>> No.41825998

>>41822841
This so much, I can't remember the last time I watched a PekoMiko interaction and came away with 'that was so great, kino'. Nowadays its either 'that was too short', '...that's all?' or 'ya...seems like there is some truth to these rrats'.

>> No.41826064

>>41817155
Lol did you just wake up from a coma

>> No.41832560

>>41816738
money

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41832632

What went wrong bros???

>> No.41832648

>>41816738
You are actually retarded to think they genuanly dislike each other there is no way cover management would let a conflict between two of there biggest talents go unresolved,and i am ignoring the fact that they are both friends

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>>41832648
>genuanly

>> No.41832792

Micometfags actually seething

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>>41832792
>spam retarded threads
>no discussion because no one cares
>get shit on because ship is dead
>y-youre s-eething

>> No.41838646

>>41816738

>> No.41842396
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41842396

Yep us oldfags get it

>> No.41847190

>>41816738
why

>> No.41847664

>>41816738
>Does management really think people will still fall for this
Yes, and they're correct.

>> No.41847821

>>41816738
>Miko’s channel
It’s fucking dead on arrival.

>> No.41847891

It really just proves all of it is scripted and nothing ever 'happened' to them, they just got tired of being shipped by their fans. Hololive itself is a fiction, we already knew that, but even "organic and fun" moments are probably hashed out before collabing. Haachama pushes watame off the pekotower, then rapes her? Watame already knew she was going to be cumming all night long. Pekora and Miko 'become friends again'? Just a big show for autistic teenagers and 35 year old manchild software engineer spergs to nerd out over.

>> No.41850405

>>41847821
The numbers are quite insane actually. If you compare the growth of their original songs as of recently:
Pekora's last original: 1 month for 700k views, and this is the peak of Pekora's popularity.
Miko's last original: Nearly 6 months for 990k.
This song: 322k in 12h with little to no promotion from the parts involved, shit promotes itself

>> No.41850731

>>41819629
Woman have innie and outie pussies where the outie is when the inner labia sticks out the outer.
Its mostly genetics
However, some studies suggest a woman with an innie can turn outie after miles of dick or childbirth

Outie pussy looks like roast beef
Hence roastie, basically meaning whore

>> No.41853287

>>41842396
Blessed be Kanatan, she was onto something. What else she knows?

>> No.41853715

>>41820465
Anon has either not learned from the Game Club drama, or has not lived through it which is worse

>> No.41853915

>>41832648
What do you expect a bunch of Japanese suits to do about some personal "teenage drama" between two girls anon?

>> No.41854256

>>41816738
It's crazy how Holodrones still fall for this bullshit. Pekora openly and proudly admit that she never gave a fuck about Rushia despite the whole "3rd Gen being the closest generation" narrative and Miko claiming all her collabs are purely business.

>> No.41854522

>>41854256
Anon it's regular workplace stuff. I've had colleagues I was fairly close to during work hours, but once I left the place I never talked to them again. Just how it is.

>> No.41854932

>>41854522
It's different when it's an entertainment division and you're putting on a show.

>> No.41855503

>>41820465
You are not a holo fan or niji fan, you are a shitposter that doesn't watch any streamer.

>> No.41856928

>>41854932
It's not. Especially when you don't even physically see them most of the time, in fact I'd say it's even worse, add that to the fact Pekora is very introverted. There's quite literally nothing strange about her not chasing Rushia.

>> No.41862343

numbers aren't everything

>> No.41865459

>>41862343
they are

>> No.41870289

>>41865459
Especially for the numberfag Queen herself

>> No.41871319

>>41816738
>86k views in an hour
You know maybe they are unto something.

>> No.41872184

>>41842396
So this is the reason we will never have a PekoKana collab

>> No.41873397

>>41872184
They have already collabed, tho.

>> No.41874474

I noticed something amusing. Was watching Matsuri's Bloom watchalong, and she's vibing hard at PekoMiko daisensou, at some point she replies: "PekoMiko wa arimashita." after being quiet for a moment, like she's reading chat.

>> No.41878789

>>41874474
Mmm…

>> No.41881081

>>41878789
Means we have no idea what goes behind the scenes with them. As expected. Stuff don't 'just happens,' everything happens due to someone's influence, after all.

>> No.41881853

>>41872184
Pekora started a spontaneous collab with her in MC just the other day.

>> No.41881938

>>41881853
Their proper collab that I remember was that Super Bunny Man one, I'll never forget the most sarcastic P P Tenshi ever vocalized by someone. Can't forget RUST, as well.
Kanata is always a great partner for Pekora because of how heavy-handed her banter is.

>> No.41885164

>>41816738
yes

>> No.41889314

>>41817155
uhh

>> No.41890315

meanwhile Miko creaming herself watching Suisei's live

>> No.41890818

>>41819571
Yeah, we are rent free in your head, kek

>> No.41890900

>>41832648
Kill yourself mud slave

>> No.41891090

>>41847891
>Miko
>Tired of being shipped
no. they certainly had some disagreement off camera, whether it was literally romantic or something entirely different isn't known but it's undeniable that at the very least Pekora acts completely different around Miko now.

>> No.41892210

>>41890315
She and everyone else who watched, really.

>> No.41895241

>>41891090
You clearly don't watch Miko's streams do you? She was dead serious that both disliked being shipped and told us "Not to assume anything"

>> No.41895863

>>41891090
I was sceptic when Miko said it too, but Marine and Flare has said it too. Pekora just doesnt want any kind of pressure, she will just approach someone at her own will and time.
Pretty consistent with PekoMiko interactions right now, wether in Rust or MC.

>> No.41896324

>>41895241
Anon, Nijinigger don't watch hololive

>> No.41897519

>muh hololive talents are professional voice
actors and everything is perfectly scripted.
>they aren't just regular streamers using a live2D although holomems have acknowledged it in the past.
Your kind are worse than any schizo on this site.

>> No.41898090

It's obvious something happened between them and I don't buy the "it's because of the shippers reeeeee" bullshit. You don't stop interacting this way with a friend because of something as retarded as that.
Just look at how miko shills everything she does with suisei and her own stuff yet the song with pekora barely got any acknowledgment from her. I think Pekora didn't even mention it on her stream.
It will be more clear when other holomems start releasing their holo*27 songs and start shilling it and behave like people happy and proud of the job done with a fellow member.
I'm 35p and honestly seeing them together hurts. And people just acting happy because they are together makes it even worse. It's as if nobody sees something is really wrong between them.

>> No.41901334

>>41898090
>I'm 35p
>Don't trust what Miko said.

>> No.41901617

Let the OG PekoMikofag Marine spell the situation out for you guys
https://youtu.be/RX1AwK5vPNQ

>> No.41901762

>>41901617
Based horny pirate

>> No.41902263

>>41898090
https://youtu.be/Vlh9ygBb6UI
Miko clearly says that they haven't had any fights and don't do collabs anymore because of the pressure from the fans.
They are very busy and talking about this topic has become too risky for both of them, obviously they will avoid contact during streams.
>It's as if nobody sees something is really wrong between them.
Maybe because there's nothing wrong between them?

>> No.41906717

>>41816738
Yeah

>> No.41907199

this hurts brothers, pekomiko is what got me into the rabbithole

i hate seeing this empty hollow collab, id rather get nothing then getting this fake shit that just rubs dirt into the wound

>> No.41907616

>>41902263
And I said I don’t buy it. I will never concede two people who are like best friends suddenly stop interacting altogether and start avoiding each other as much as they can, not even participating in any type of live or collab together outside of collabs with over 20 people in but hey, it’s normal and it’s because a bunch of dudes draw lesbian fan art of us!
It’s obvious something happened and most likely we will never know, but their behavior is pretty much what women do whenever they have quarrels irl.
Miko is my oshi but I’m not retarded enough to believe they are friends. I could concede they don’t hate each other but right now their relationship is beyond broken outside of being coworkers who respect each other.

>> No.41909555

>>41901617
I love Senchou, she's always extra considerate towards Pekora. Even as a nousagi I can see how she can be a difficult woman to deal with at times, but watching her slowly opening up towards pretty much all the other holomems has been part of what made this journey so interesting. Observing the degradation of her relationship with Miko has been particularly hard because, on top of everything else, it also represents the only, yet massive stain on this journey. If I am to believe the reason behind their distancing was just to avoid the shipping, I gotta say they did a very poor job at making it look like it.

>> No.41911949

>>41901617
I can understand Pekora not liking that kind of comments but to completely obliterate a relationship with someone who cares about you and that you care about out of it is beyond me. I don’t believe that’s all there was to it.
Kanata and Suisei barely collab yet it’s clear they are friends, same with Lamy and Marine or with Noel and Flare.
The only ones avoiding each other are Pekora and Miko. Hell even when they find each other in minecraft you can feel in the air how awkward saying “hi” to each other is.

>> No.41912630

>>41901334
>being her fan makes me someone who can’t rationalize shit like an adult.
Just like when your mother tells you sweet lies to protect you or to make you happy, miko does the same. She doesn’t want to make anyone sad so she’s telling a sweet lie to not make anyone sad.
And yes, I’m 35P but I’m also and adult so just how I stopped believing my mom when she told me Santa was real as I grew up I don’t think she’s telling all the truth here because she cares about us. She cares about hololive enough to not instigate that sort of women-drama.

>> No.41913307

>>41912630
Miko specifically said they didn't have any fights, I don't believe she's lying.

>> No.41913821

>>41913307
I don’t believe they had a big fight or something but I also don’t believe they are closeted bffs like pekomiko schizos believe. Their relationship was severed completely.
If you ask me I believe the problem is that Pekora is extremely autistic with that sort of things as Marine has stated (the lesbianism, the pekomiko schizos in chat, getting close to people…) and that led her to attempt to stop it, and in the end it actually destroyed the relationship altogether because Miko didn’t have the balls to tell her that their relationship was more important than some subhumans in the chat and that things can be handled differently.
It’s not that Pekora is at fault or something, she’s just autistic with her approaches and Miko was too passive to handle it. She let it happen because she’s generally very passive and inoffensive.
That’s why I said there was more to it. I don’t think Miko lied but she didn’t tell all the truth in order to protect everyone involved.
TLDR: Miko didn’t know how to handle Pekora and that ended up with their relationship dying. Marine knows how to handle her hence she still has a relationship with her.

>> No.41914034

>>41820465
just keep coping yourself into the safety of delusion, anon-kun. there's no reason you have to agree to consensual reality here

>> No.41918944

>>41913821
Miko is the one who understood Pekora the best. They’ve been a constant on each other’s lives for years at that point.
At some point, way before Hololive, Miko had a menhera episode and disappeared completely from the internet. The first person she contacted after she reappeared was Pekora, who was quite happy to hear her voice. I don’t think it’s a matter of understanding.
Yes the fans might’ve been too rabbid, the shipping too excessive to the point of “PekoMiko or nothing,” but nowadays we don’t have the culture of “cheating” if the person is collaborating with someone else, which was common back then.
I think Pekora wanted to do something about the situation, and they disagreed on what to do, and probably dealt with it poorly.

>> No.41919030

>>41913821
So Suisei is the rebound?

>> No.41919705

Also, need to add the idea of Cover forcing someone to do something is dumb. They do pair people for events and sponsorships, but I've never seem them forcing. They'll pair Suisei and Miko. They'll pair Watame and Botan. They'll create Umisea, where makes absolute sense, Marine and Aqua are very close, Gura has shown time and time again she adores and respects both of them, and Ina goes well with anyone. They'll only pair people who make sense. For example, they used to pair PekoMiko A LOT, but after they fell off, it stopped completely, they never paired them up again and even split them up in big events which never happened before, throwing PekoMiko at anything was always a recipe for success, after all. It's obvious they never forced them, and wouldn't do it now. Hard to imagine it wasn't their own initiative to come up with a new song.

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out of the ashes grew the best duo in all of vtubing
truly we are blessed

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>>41918944
She probably understands her but that doesn’t translate in knowing how to handle it.
>nowadays we don’t have the culture of “cheating” if the person is collaborating with someone else, which was common back then.
I don’t think the issue lays there as suisei also collabs with other people and miko is ok with that. I don’t think she has ever had a problem with something like that.
>I think Pekora wanted to do something about the situation, and they disagreed on what to do, and probably dealt with it poorly.
That they dealt with it poorly is an understatement even. It’s not even a matter of “muh pekomiko kino” bullshit. I’m legit sad Miko lost a good friend. If they were good friends that just don’t collab then cool, but it’s clear to me the relationship is broken.
Miko is way too passive and she doesn’t care about shipping. The one who cares about it is pekora and when it came to stop streaming together somehow it also ended with their relationship severed.
>>41919030
That’s a nasty way to put it. Suisei is her own thing and has a lot of good things going on with her. She’s a great person and a great friend. I’m glad miko is with her. She also doesn’t care about shipping and even has casual fun with it.
The main thing here is that Suisei is just easier to hang out with than pekora and given that miko is not exactly someone with Marine’s emotional intelligence.

>> No.41921652

>>41918944 #
She probably understands her but that doesn’t translate in knowing how to handle it.
>nowadays we don’t have the culture of “cheating” if the person is collaborating with someone else, which was common back then.
I don’t think the issue lays there as suisei also collabs with other people and miko is ok with that. I don’t think she has ever had a problem with something like that.
>I think Pekora wanted to do something about the situation, and they disagreed on what to do, and probably dealt with it poorly.
That they dealt with it poorly is an understatement even. It’s not even a matter of “muh pekomiko kino” bullshit. I’m legit sad Miko lost a good friend. If they were good friends that just don’t collab then cool, but it’s clear to me the relationship is broken.
Miko is way too passive and she doesn’t care about shipping. The one who cares about it is pekora and when it came to stop streaming together somehow it also ended with their relationship severed.
>>41919030 #
That’s a nasty way to put it. Suisei is her own thing and has a lot of good things going on with her. She’s a great person and a great friend. I’m glad miko is with her. She also doesn’t care about shipping and even has casual fun with it.
The main thing here is that Suisei is just easier to hang out with than pekora and given that miko is not exactly someone with Marine’s emotional intelligence it’s more prone to not have an sour ending like pekomiko.

>> No.41922213

Anyone who still believes miko's statement is blind or just don't watch their streams hence may as well be blind.

Miko still awkwardly tries to talk to pekora. But
Pekora does everything she can to avoid talking to miko as much as possible.
Just watch one of their recent minecraft stream. This has been going on for years now.

>> No.41922321

>>41922213
Most people here are too autistic to pick up on that kind of thing.

>> No.41922419

>>41921652
The cheating problem came from fans. If you had a pair, and collabed with someone else, people would say you're cheating. It was very prevalent, happened a lot with NoeFurea and OkaKoro, too. But PekoMiko was the most popular, so it felt it the most.

>> No.41923987

>>41922213
The worst thing is that whenever you try to talk about this there’s always a bunch of subhuman faggots trying to “call you out” when that there’s something going on is crystal clear. I still remember a collab organized by koyori that had miko and pekora and a couple of days later pekora told her she wasn’t gonna join.
They also always try to not play minecraft together to the point there are weeks filled with minecraft and they coincidentally played other games whenever the other was playing minecraft.
>>41922419
If you let a bunch of random annoying people in a chat online bother you enough to destroy an irl relationship with a dear friend you are clearly autistic. It’s rather easy: a problem arised and both parties didn’t have the maturity to solve the issue, so it ended up like this. They are both at fault: pekora for being caring about something as silly as shippers and for being autistic with her approaches and miko for not telling her “hey, let’s stop this. I want to be with you. I want to stay being your friend. Why is this happening? Do you think it is normal that we don’t even talk anymore?”
In the end pekora is hard to deal with and miko didn’t do what senchou somehow managed to do to some degree (because even senchou has to deal with her autism outbreaks like when she just didn’t spend the night with her or that pekora was living alone for a year and she didn’t know about it).
And just to clarify my words, no, I don’t think pekora is a bad person. I do think she’s difficult to deal with.

>> No.41924138

>>41850731
amazing anon you know a lot more about women than i do

>> No.41924280

>>41923987
why do you say this like you know what happened
you have no idea what Miko did or didn't try

>> No.41924949

The reason of their feud has been explained on 5ch many times.

During covid, pekora asked to do a 3d live but got denied by management.
Meanwhile management granted permission to 5gen.
Pekora had a public tantrum and menaced to quit.
Miko started saying that pekora is ridiculous and is still a child and She would still be a "niconico wanabee" without Miko pushing her into hololive.
After that, Pekora stopped talking to Miko.

the story was also confirmed by the dude who was in talks with Rushia.

>> No.41925286

>>41924949
Putting aside that half of what you wrote is made up bullshit, that episode you're referring to happened way after Pekora and Miko suddenly stopped acknowledging each other.

>> No.41925496

>>41925286
you are wrong. last collab was december 2020. pekora trantrum happened january 2021.

>> No.41926117

>>41924949
They basically taking the one instance where Pekora almost cried on stream for unknown reasons, probably something her manager told her, to pull a whole rrat out of their asses, it's great.

>> No.41926237

>>41924280
I don’t know and precisely because I don’t know what exactly happened between them I’m not gonna explicitly say who’s at fault. When something happens between two persons is often both parties fault to some degree.
I’m not gonna say that Pekora is at fault or that Miko is at fault. Also if the problem layed there then there would be hard feelings between them and not the heavy awkwardness. They don’t hate each other, there’s only a bitter aftertaste to them. The same kind of aftertaste you get when you think you could’ve done more.

>> No.41926451

>>41925496
So you admit it's all made up bullshit.

>> No.41927271

>>41926117
you are wrong again. pekora herself went into details about it here

https://www.youtube.com/live/xcPx-vFDtjE?feature=share&t=816

>> No.41927305

No

>> No.41927323

test

>> No.41927957

Micomet and Pekomiko can and do both exist at the same time.

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>>41925496
>pekora trantrum happened january 2021
Bloom, February 17 2021

>> No.41928972

>>41927957
Funny because micomet might just be why pekomiko broke up. Pekora ignoring miko while miko flourishes with a partner is such a typical heartbreak story.

>> No.41929075

>>41927271
Well yes, I've seen this before. As I said something managed told her. Can't forget they performed in Bloom together after this, so saying this is the cause is dumb.

>> No.41931052

>>41926237
thats just really sad.

>> No.41935149

Here's a crazy idea for the shitposters.
What if they were never BFFs nor were they ever enemies? What if they are simply colleagues who respect each other, but do not necessarily share anything in common? What if they maintain a mutually professional relationship and just want to do their own things?
No, that's a crazy idea. The truth must be a baseless fantasy that miko tried to romance pekora.

>> No.41935248

>>41928972
Micomet was the corporate mandated rebound ship. There's a reason why they keep emphasizing that it's a business friendship.

>> No.41938289

>>41935149
Anontachi... your basic PegoMigo reps...

>> No.41941097

>>41935149
Just go watch their over 6 years of story together and say that again afterwards with a straight face.

>> No.41944783

>>41935248
Micomet was already a thing before the breakup. For like half a year.

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>>41935248
miComet got paired up early on for events, way before PekoMiko died
they got paired as a unit because they were both kind of just there without a generation
they very quickly bonded due to their natural chemistry, and likely also the similar terrible start in Hololive, but they only started collabing streams in 2020 a bit after PekoMiko fell off the face of the earth
and oh man once the barrier between them was gone they just kept collabing over and over again

>> No.41944981

I have secret knowledge, but I will never tell /vt/. Goodbye.

>> No.41945175

>>41944981
no you don't

>> No.41952100

>>41816738
go back

>> No.41955505

On Hololive's 4rd FES, on day 2 there's the Deco*27 stage. I assume they'll perform all of the new Deco songs.
So, 33% chance Miko will perform with Pekora. 33% there's also a miComet Deco song in the makings and they'll perform that instead, and the other 34% is that they'll perform both songs.

>> No.41959289

>>41935248
this anon is right, micomet isn't an organic thing and it's blatantly obvious if you're not retarded that it's something that cover is forcing despite the two not really caring much for each other at all irl
they emphasize it being purely a company thing enough and at one point suisei just brings it up completely unprompted in a collab that she and miko never ever hang out outside of streams

>> No.41962117

>>41959289
based, change partner, and change labels from "rival" to "business partner", instant success. migo is a yuribait god

>> No.41965185

>>41816738
aw

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