/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

haha

[Anonymous No.]

I dont get whats funny

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>>4174553
Mori found out she doesn't have permissions for the game 8 hours before the collab happens. After preparing it for weeks.

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>>4174553
don't worry anon, he's just off his meds again

[Anonymous No.]

>Moririn spent months getting this ready
>got art commissioned for it and everything
>sounds the most dejected she's been in months over this
I fucking hate Cover.

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>>4174625
seethe chink

[Anonymous No.]

why is she so autistic jesas

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>>4174597
>>4174625
What are you on about, schizo?

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>>4174597
Anon, it was months.

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>>4174686
>Splittranny doesn't know what's going on
Of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>Cover WILL get away with this
>there will NOT be any backlash over it
>Holocucks WILL just meekly accept their fate
>Mori WILL be blamed instead of Cover/Enma
>Cover WILL get away with this

You reap what you sow, if EN fanbase had more of a threatening/volatile reputation, Cover wouldn't be so comfortable with fucking them over.

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CRISIS AVERTED
WE ARE BACK

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>>4174625
Is there a member stream going on? Anyway, they need to convince Cover to stop caring about getting permissions from Western companies, least of all fucking Paradox.

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>>4174597
For what game? TTRPG? It's right in the thumbnail and nothing's written in her twitter

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>>4174750
Mori is at fault though, she should have dealt with the permissions earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been fighting a legitimate real life shadow war over the world of darkness setting for years and if ANYTHING happens to this game and I don't see ame playing a hunter I'm going to be furious.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh nonono... This can't be happening Rudi bros...

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>>4174819
DIE

[Anonymous No.]

Rudis a good character

[Anonymous No.]

DOOMPOSTERS WERE RIGHT, EVERY COLLAB WILL BE RUINED

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>>4174801
anon it's the managers' job. in all companies

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>>4174597
was it supposed to be a different game or something? I dont know shit about ttrpg

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>>4174801
THEY HAVE PERMISSIONS.

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>>4174496
I'm ootl whats going on here

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>>4174893
YOU ARE LATE

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>>4174900
>>4174914
>>4174924
Shh, don't ruin the seanig schizo's fun.

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>>4174597
>>4174625
Where is this being said?

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>>4174625
As someone who literally hate Calli. This pleases me greatly.

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>>4174895
cover managers do nothing besides raping the holos

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>>4174957
Why do you call her by her cute name then

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>>4174953
Directly in OP's head, with his psychic connection to the HoloEN girls. Don't question it.

[Anonymous No.]

I forgot, what was the name of the game she was originally meant to be playing?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm Calli's manager and I'm the one who blocked the collab. I also have sex with all of the HoloEN girls daily. deal with it.

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>>4174953
Nowhere. It's greyname seanigger schizos doomposting because they can't watch the collab.

[Anonymous No.]

GET OWNED THEY APPROVED IT ON-STREAM AND ARE SENDING THE GIRLS MERCH AND GEAR TO PLAY WITH

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>>4175010
It's the same one they were planning to play from the very beginning, Hunter the Vigil

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>>4174496
Look at the anti, look at him and laugh

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>>4175035
How long does the lesbian sex last?

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>>4174496
Kek, deadbeats win again

[Anonymous No.]

Antis seething now, get the perms and show them how

[Anonymous No.]

>Literally pulling thing out of his ass
Schizos on this board are getting more pathetic by each day passing.

[Anonymous No.]

COLLAB SAVED
>BASED PARADOX
COLLAB SAVED
>BASED PARADOX
COLLAB SAVED
>BASED PARADOX
COLLAB SAVED
>BASED PARADOX

[Anonymous No.]

So was this a pro-paradox shill thread all along?

Also, where is all of this shit coming from?

[Anonymous No.]

Deadbraps needed this after coco analy devastated their oshi

[Anonymous No.]

Wheres the stream reservation? Its not showing up in my subscription feed

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>>4174496
>>4175037
>>4175064
well this thread ended as fast as it was made

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>>4174819
It's not even the same game retard

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>>4175151
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPyOZkyIosc

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>>4175142
T2 stream

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>>4175172
Thanks

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Spiked the football to early OP

[Anonymous No.]

God, I only wish Cover was less retarded with this permission bullshit, most western companies don't even care since it's free advertisement. It worked out now but they don't have to go through this anxiety of not having permissions every fucking time.

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>>4175149
Not anally. She impregnated her

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>>4175409
Its because of japanese law. They can get fucked if they don't do what they do.

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>>4174597
Take your meds retard

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>>4175521
It makes sense when they're dealing with Japanese IPs, but I don't think it's the case for western ones.

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>>4175656
Japanese does not have fair use, so anything monetized inside japan or by a company from japan need permissions.

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>>4175521
Western devs and/or publishers are not going to take legal action against anyone for streaming their fully launched games. Period. This is not going to happen.

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What the fuck even happened in this thread?

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>>4176015
A live rrat abortion.

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>>4175959
But they could. If a gaijin dev knew of the draconian copyright law and was slimy enough, they could try raising a stink with Cover and scare them into settling out of court.
Asking for legal permissions even with western publishers is just basic opsec.

>>4176015
Antichama thought Mori's tabletop campaign had been killed by perms but then Paradox shat on him in real time.

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>>4175959
You can't be sure of that. Fact is that the law states that they can't do it and they've already had one scare. They can't afford to risk a second one. The risk playing the low chance game here outweighs the benefits they get from it.

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>>4175807
I knew about the lack of fair use, but that's really awful. They really need a way around this, I don't know how this stuff works but can't they legally move the company to another country? Even if they play safe now, it can and will fuck them over sooner or later.

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>>4176015
Mori reveals Cover blocked her TTRPG collab during her members' only stream due to fear of their retarded copyright law and not understanding the common practice surrounding it in the west -> someone from Paradox Interactive (the company that owns the IP) turns out to be watching it and gets the management to send an explicit notice to Cover to greenlight the collab -> Cover retracts their retarded move

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>>4176056
Except for the part where these publishers already give blanket permission for people to create content off of their games.

>>4176064
I can be very sure of that. Precisely zero streamers on the entirety of Twitch has ever personally asked permission from a publisher or dev to play X game.
Western developers themselves would raise hell if a publisher tried to sue a content creator simply for, say, streaming game X. Campo Santo got the PR shit kicked out of them for going after PewDiePie.

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What the fuck are you guys on about.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPyOZkyIosc
>This TTRPG is streamed and monetized in accordance with World of Darkness's Dark Pack Policy.
>https://worldofdarkness.com/dark-pack

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>>4176141
They can, and they should, but the fossils running the country won't allow it because yamato damashii or some stupid shit. They'd blow a gasket over the thought of Cover not being a Japanese-run, Japanese-owned, Japanese-ruled company and they'd lose their yakuza boons

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>>4176141
It has already had done that once, that is why they are playing it safe, if you want to look it up the search for how it fucked over Subaru

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>>4176250
>thinking a Japanese-owned company being run by a western would be better off
Anon... your Sony reps...

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>>4174496
>WoD
Had been expecting 3.5, shame

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>>4176176
You can't be sure of that because the simple fact is someone might do it. Its japan not america so they can do it and it won't get noticed. The reality is that there is a CHANCE and no sane person wants to risk the very low chance. If someone plays the game they can get super royally fucked for it.

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>>4176334
>3.5
>not GURPS Shadowrun
NGMI

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>>4176420
>GURPS Shadowrun
>not Nechronica
cuck

[Anonymous No.]

Nice op

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>>4176334
begone dndrone

[Anonymous No.]

Weird thread.

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>>4176154
That dude who was watching member stream to should get a raise, basically single handedly prevented Cover from doing something retarded once again.

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>>4176186
I will explain this to you.
>Mori ranted in member stream around 40 minutes ago about Cover blocking the collab because autism permission at the last minute
>Considering to make her own ttrpg by mspaint and still angry for potential cancelled stream
>Looks like Paradox(TTRPG company) is on her pre-chat and noticed this or got informed from someone probably Deadbeats
>Paradox immediately gave digital permission to Cover even send them official merch
>Mori got informed by her manager on stream
All of this happen in less than 15 minutes, basically OP got owned in mere minutes.

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>>4176525
I just love Tome of Battle anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Based Paradox

[Anonymous No.]

>something happens
>anti faggot retreats to the safety of a new anti thread away from the eyes of the big scary bully /hlgg/
>gets btfo and his shame is left floating for all to see

Laugh at this monkey

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>>4174496
>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Let it all out.

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>>4176597
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

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>>4174598
>>4174653
>>4174686
>>4174947
>>4174987
>>4175035
>>4175037
>>4175098
>>4175556
>members stream happenings are happening
>uncomprehending meds/schizo/SEAnigger spammers flood the thread revealing their tourism for what it is
This is the dramafaggotry you have enabled. Straight outta /v/.

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>>4176597
do you think paradox did this specifically because OP is a faggot?

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>>4176774
Yes.

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>>4176411
Only an insane or uninformed person takes serious something that has 0.00000000000001% chance of happening. Actually, you know what? It's 0% chance. Is there one specific case where a AAA or AA Western publisher/dev took legal action against a streamer for simply streaming their game without expressly requesting permission first?
Also you're nuts if you think a Western company could take legal action against Cover and it won't get noticed. What are you talking about?

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>>4176864
It seems like they're just being safe after the holocaust that nearly fucked all of holojp.

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>>4176774
OP is a faggot, but I think paradox did this because they got a DM from a deadbeat telling them they were about to miss out on free advertising from a combined 7+mil sub group of content creators.

In all likelihood a higher-up at Cover tried faxing a permission request to Paradox months ago, got no response because nobody outside of Japan still unironically uses fax machines, and decided that meant communications could not be established and there was no hope. Whoever handles this stuff on cover's side is almost as much of a faggot as OP

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>>4176864
The problem is that copyright law is also bullshit in its own way. If you notice a violation of your copyright rights and you don't sue against it, you are liable to lose the copyright itself.

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>>4176864
This is honestly true. In practically there's no western inde dev or AA dev that would use copyright law and fuck up such free exposure. Every game marketer in this space who has expressed views like that has been ritualistically mocked by the gaming community at large. Even so, Cover has went through the HoloCaust. We're still trying to recover so many videos. That alone is probably the sole reason why they're still hesitating. I understand the cautiousness, just wish they'd look at it more pragmatically.

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>>4174597
I know Mori-sama got this fixed, but I swear she said she had permission months ago?

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>>4176768
I made the manager post, I just thought it would be a funny joke

I'm also a RUnigger and not a SEAnigger

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>>4177036
Are you a fan of Botan by any chance?

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>>4176931
It's because the laws were written for the way people did shit more than 150 years ago and they just kept piling on random rules over time when cases went to court. Fuck copyright law, it needs to be torn down and restructured.
>>4176924
Fun that the japs can be so ahead on some things but so behind on others.
>>4177002
It's why Atlus got fucking shitbombed by people screaming about their over the top takedowns of their series games near release date.

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>>4177003
She was under the impression that https://www.worldofdarkness.com/dark-pack is clear enough for cover
>You can monetize videos on platforms that allow it (such as YouTube), and gather funds through optional subscription services (such as Twitch, Patreon, ko-fi), if the World of Darkness content you provide is available for free for everyone to enjoy.

>What we ask is that when you advertise or promote your fan content using our intellectual property, on websites, social media, posters, flyers, TikTok, Patreon, and similar channels and platforms, you acknowledge our copyrights and trademarks by including a brief legal statement and the Dark Pack logo on your advertising. We understand that presenting and sharing our brand matters to you, and we want to help you do it in a way that will help us promote your content as we expand our community support efforts and also respects our rights and the brand owner.

[Anonymous No.]

>having to get permission to play games
is there anything more cucked??

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>>4176900
Then make sure you get permission from nip companies. This is not a thing that anybody has to worry about with Western devs/publishers. Ever. Again, point me to one single legal case. Just one.

>>4176931
What are you on about? Nobody is violating copyright. These publishers often already give blanket permission or outline what you should do in order to freely stream their stuff.

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>>4176931
That's trademark not copyright

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>>4177003
Maybe because they always had impressions? If you look at the games website it clearly states that you can stream the game and monetize it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4177131
permissions* holy shit what's wrong with me

[Anonymous No.]

>kiara being a noisy shit
>mori talking shit to kiara
>ame laughing and making jokes
>ina just trying to play
>gura sitting in the corner, quiet

saved you the time

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>>4177212
Switch Gura and Ame then you're right.

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>>4177212
I think Gura and Ame will switch places

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>>4177110
It makes sense for a company to at least require blanket permissions just to be sure, because they can actually get sued for significant amounts of money, it's about security.
Cover's autism about not accepting blanket permissions is retarded

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>>4174496
take your meds now

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>>4177002
There's nothing pragmatic about schizophrenic levels of fear. You're asking me to wear a bulletproof vest and hire a team of bodyguards to go to the supermarket. Just point me to one legal case. Just one. Ever.
Western publishers and developers leaving content creators alone to do their thing is ingrained in the culture of the Western video game industry. It's a relationship that's been built over decades and everyone tacitly understands this unwritten rule. The Japanese being so anal about their IP is incredibly dumbfounding.

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THINGS COVER STAFF SHOULD DO FOR THEIR TALENT.deadseascrolls IS NOT A MEME.
Reminder that Japanese businesses are retarded and backwards and still living in the 80s. Reminder that Japanese businesses fax each other documents from different floors of the same building.

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>>4177318
you're right but also a faggot at the same time though

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>>4177314
You're right, but Japan is so fucking obsessed with old shit they still use fax machines.

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>>4177055
No, Aqua was my introduction to Hololive and I really liked her before the whole Coco shitstorm

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>>4175807
This the only workaround is formal permissions or moving HQ from japan to another country (kinda like what sony did) but that is a pandora's box that no one wants to open

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>>4174496
Just came here to laugh at the retard OP.

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>>4177314
You weren't specific so here.
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/265072.page
https://spikeybits.com/2019/04/gw-flexes-legal-action-on-another-gaming-company.html
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2013/04/new-legal-battle-blight-wheel.html

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>>4176774
They commissioned a fanfic stick-puppet show to make a 30 minute video set in stellaris. They have also had a constant string of failures in recent content releases and are desperate for good publicity.

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>>4176334
DnD is trash. And they would play 5e for sure anyways.

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>>4177505
>haha silly lawyers, these are not GW miniatures
>see, we misspelled every other word, you can't sue us now!
secondaries had it comming by trying to beat GW legally, support your local chinaman recaster

[Anonymous No.]

what is this? d&d? seems like a cool idea for them to play. too bad I don't care about the en branch.

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>>4174767
>just get demonetized bro

[Anonymous No.]

>we will never have Deadlands classic with Sheriff Calliope and cowgirl gura
It hurts

[Anonymous No.]

>>4174496
>vampire shit
Dropped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4177663
Thank god Mori is such a big chuuni she got into World of Darkness instead of D&D

[Anonymous No.]

>>4176774
God willing.

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>>4177505
Anonchama, the context. Calli isn't making and hawking miniatures.

>>4177771
That's a YouTube problem. They should really avoid saying the word "Nazi" then.

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>>4177800
>can't even tell the 20 owod/nwod tabletop rpg game lines apart from each other
weak

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>>4177800
It's Hunter. This is the one where regular racist chads and tradwives kill the vampires.

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>>4177505
it's a shame that most nerds don't have the balls for a confrontation and just instantly fold to any pressure. i'd love to see pricegouge workshop get their just desserts one day.

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>>4177884
>Calli isn't making and hawking miniatures.
...That we know of.

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>>4177884
youtube problem or not, hololive doesn't run a fucking charity here.

[Anonymous No.]

>really excited for Calli, Gura, Ina and Ame to play a TTRPG together
>but Kiara is there too
>and World of Darkness is super pozzed
It's just too hard to have nice things isn't it?
There are always these drawbacks

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>>4177212
Kiara will try to DM's gf her way into making it all about her then throw a tantrum when it doesn't work.

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>>4177983
you fucking retard read the goddamn thread or I will anally rape you

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>>4177777

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>>4177983
>World of Darkness is super pozzed
What are some based and redpilled settings?

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>>4177918
>just desserts

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>>4178016
Literally just writing shit yourself beats anything else and I suspect that's what Mori is gonna do, I suspect she's just using NWoD because she likes dicepools and also it's relatively rules-light

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178045
what?

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>>4177995
What do you mean?
I'm reading it but all I'm getting is that Mori didn't have permission but then got it anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178016
RaHoWa

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>>4174597
I'm sorry for what has become of you. Take your meds and rest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178079
it dumb

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>>4177983
>>4178084
Agreed about the Kiara thing, don't let G*rmans into your tabletop RPG group, they made Shadowrun

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>>4177884
Again, he wasn't specific enough. Legal case here is documented, and the anon's post went on about fucking videogames.

This is the exception that proves the rule, a western games company that has a track record of throwing legal threats at both derivate competitors and fan works alike. Still, GW is an exception, they're not paradox or wizards of the coast.

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>>4178016
The sad thing is he probably thinks WH40k is

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>>4178129
if you have a better english idiom i'd love to hear it

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>>4178077
Anon, you're thinking as if Cali is a fa/tg/uy. She likely chose WoD because it has hot vampires in it.

[Anonymous No.]

So anyways, now that we know it's all fine, what are the chances that once Vsinger and EN2 can collab join the group?

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>>4178084
She had permission
Cover was being retarded and didn't understand blanket permissions
Rep from the company went straight to Cover to say that "yes they have permission you Japanese retards"
Problem solved

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>>4178132
Man Germany used to be fucking cool, and I don't mean 1939 cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178206
I think Calli was spotted on /wodg/ earlier this month but this might just be a dumb rrat

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>>4174969
this is not nijisanji or vshojo anon

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>>4178132
>hating on Shadowrun
ngmi
I agree the rules are convoluted af, but once you get past that its probably the most fun setting you can have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178388
magic is for lazy writers who can't be assed to learn how shit in real life works and can't stop writing themselves into corners
fuck mechas too

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178440
What's your favorite setting? 90's Chicago?

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>>4178499
yes.

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>>4177071
Funnily enough, I actually know the guy who controls the brand behind this. Lots of drama as to why it got written like this.

Tl:dr; Brand was originally owned by his father. An investor stole it. He just stole it back recently. Added all this shit to ruin the guy who stole it.

I'll think about asking him if Vtubers are okay

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>>4178388
>Love the setting
>Hate the system
Best way to sum up Shadowrun

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178440
>fuck mechas too
Fuck YOU

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178440
How you feel about Dogs in the Vineyard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178589
agreed mecha is great battlemech is shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>4176774
Paradox employee here
Yes, that's why I did it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178643
Them's Batchal words

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>>4177110
>An automated form that generates custom legal documents for your channel just in case you want to cover your ass
Devolver is pretty cool

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178307
free city of Berlin or some shit? I only played vidya one's

[Anonymous No.]

Deadbraps are on full damage control since Mori kneeled and got pounded by the Cocock huh..

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178388
Shadowrun is literally 4 different games poorly welded together, and somehow this connection gets worse in every version while each individual game gets better.

[Anonymous No.]

vshojo wins again

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178668
Fuck off Wiz

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178611
never heard of it
skimming it, it sounds neat

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178016
Exalted 2E lore.

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>>4178737
>playing dnd
>winning
pick one

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178742
It was the /tg/ darling during its early years, but I think it's fallen out of the public consciousness. Glad you're giving it a look.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178737
>DND
>winning

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>>4178668
spoonfeed me on how exactly you guys supposed to fuck up this time with vic3

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178737
Caribou didn't go corporate did she?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178737
>AHAHA YES SUCK MY COCK
>AHAHA NO U
>AHAHAHA ROLL DICE ON LICKING BALLS

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178737
>D&D
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178543
Anon, please fill me in this seems really interesting.

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>>4178180
You made a common misnomer. The term is actually "just deserts", although it has nothing to do with arid, sandy landscapes, or confectionary foods.

Apparently back in ye olden days "desert" was a word used to reference a "deserved reward or punishment", and "deserts" was simply a pluralization of that word, hence the idiom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4176597
>tfw TTRPG designer
>tfw I will never get to design a game that Hololive plays on stream.

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>>4178016

Star Wars is obviously super-pozzed but I REALLY like the system itself, since it lends itself to interesting shit happening independent of success or failure.

There's a generic, setting-agnostic version of that system; I should pick it up sometime.

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>>4178737
Is that Matt? 20 bucks says next campaign they use vtuber tech, if they haven't already.

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>>4178702
Yeah, Free Berlin or the F-state has been covered by the krauts ad nausem for years and its become a pretty cool setting along with other German cities like Hamburg. Its all in German but I thought these tidbits are pretty cool.
https://shadowhelix.de/Hauptseite
http://www.shadowrunberlin.de

[Anonymous No.]

>>4177212
Whenever the whole gang is together all their weak points cancel out sometimes. I can see the power inherent to ttrpgs being enough to push this into being a masterpiece stream series.

[Anonymous No.]

I just can't see Mori working as DM. Yes she seems autistic enough to know the rules, but at the same time she seems like she'd have trouble if the players do something unexpected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178737
Hold on. Let's see what numbers HoloEN gets for their session 0.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178978
It's a doggy dog world out there, you can't expect everyone to know every diamond dozen idiom that exists.

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>>4178955
There's a few details I have to leave out because yab. But the general idea is that World of Darkness was supposed to be a collection of various author's works combined to make one big world. We'll call the guy's dad Chad. Chad spearheaded and invested a great deal into it. He got an investor at the time. However, Chad came from a culture of "Don't be a cunt and fuck over buisness partners", as such he got fucked over by his investor cause said investor is a cunt. Chad's son, we'll call UberChad, found this shit out when he was young. Previously mentioned culture also states "if someone fucks with you, ruin them". Overtime, Investor sucked at business and UberChad slowly got "friends" into company. He got tipped of Investor had to put brand as collelateral. UberChad then invested money into ruining Investor, which worked out. As such he swept in and got the brand back for dirt cheap.

This isn't the full, true story. But this is a good parrallel verison of it. Read it loosely and you got the gist of the story.

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>>4179068
I don't think it's possible for Kiara to not be an annoying shit

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>>4179168
She makes my oshi happy so I'm glad she has her as a friend. Thus even if I personally don't enjoy her I will do my best to tolerate her and be civil about it.

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>>4179149
Yeah, I know. I wasn't the one who was insulting the guy, I saw him ask the question and figured I'd answer since no one else was.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178016
Stock settings usually have some shit wrong with them on the merit that they're not YOUR setting. Making some dumb shit up for your game is generally a lot better than using a stock setting, and also just generally more fun since you're less likely to get people going "ACKSHUALLY Pelor is really The Burning Hate" or "According to this oddly-shaped stain on Paul Hume's discarded underwear from 1992, deckers are lame and technopaths are superior".
If I had to pick some, though, Anima Beyond Fantasy's Gaia setting is pretty good (but it can become one-note if you remember the Inquisition exists), Numenera is literally ONLY good for its setting as the game itself is molten slag. Trinity Continuum has some good stuff going on and there's multiple eras/timelines so you can custom tailor it as you like while still having a solid base.

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>>4179149
Also those misphrased idioms just whooshed way over my head cause I'm dumb, but well played, lol.

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>>4177110
>This is not a thing that anybody has to worry about with Western devs/publishers. Ever. Again, point me to one single legal case. Just one.
Doesn't matter anon. A branch of a Japanese company whose overall production manager is based in Japan is following the rules that apply to Japanese streamers and companies after having almost lost a talents YT account after blatantly ignoring the rules for years.

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>>4179022
it's arcadum

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>>4179079
Well if it reassures you any, she's ran 2 longer WoD campaigns, hunter the vigil for 4 'seasons' and Geist: The Sin Eaters for 3 as well as a few one shots, so she's no newbie

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179343
This. Fear is the strongest corporate motivator and the hardest one to overcome. Once a company fears a course of action, they will do their damndest to avoid it, whatever the cost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179160
That sounds amazing Anon, that sort of history is really something. This whole World of Darkness thing is already starting to look cool and the steams haven't even started yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179273
Basically this, when I play with my friends we have our own settings, the base class and damage system is D&D and the combat is basically free-flow. It relies heavily on the game master tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179160
You're missing out years of edgelords taking the setting and making it even edger, media franchises that made no sense, and towards the end the Chads nearly getting canceled because of some really edgy Chechens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178898
you forgot
>natural 20!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179412
Fucking Chechens I swear to god. Have they ever done anything besides fuck things up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179357
>>4179022
The really funny part was in the first campaign with the other half of the Vshojo and Vshojo affiliates, Arcadam briefly introduced a Casanova type character and seduced Silvervale. It was absolutely hilarious to see the normally 'sexy everywhere' persona break when that happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179402
It's a good game series. If you want to learn more about the actual game and lore stuff, check out some yt videos on it. Skip any fags who try to cover the whole thing in 1 video tho.

>>4179412
I mean true, but that's a different setting to what I wanted to share. There's some prototype shit I was told but I can't share it. When it first got started in the 90's the internet was starting to take off, that's all I can say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179467
No you see they got some friends to add some fluff to the setting, said friends were edgy Chechens and they got a lot of flak for having them. It got scrubbed understandably and probably got the game based on the setting really fucking scrubbed clean to make it more appealing to "general audiences"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4174496
NOT THE HECKIN' COLLABERINOS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA NIGGERMAN TASUKETE

I'm going to put it real simple for you retards:
1. I'M GONNA COOM
2. UUUUUOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH
Chumbuds, KFP will deny this and seethe, but check these fucking digits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179160
Nice fanfiction but Paradox bought the WoD/White Wolf brand for literally several million dollars in ~2015.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179402
Half of WoD is depressing bilk with some good writing involved and the other half is your brother's middle school fanfictions somehow published as tabletop lore, and it is entirely a crapshoot which one you're getting because there's minimal cohesion between all the different WoD games. That's not even getting into nWoD vs oWoD because it's the same shit but with the quality shuffled around.
I think the most apt description I've ever seen of WoD writing is "what flavor of bad writing tropes do you enjoy".

[Anonymous No.]

I don't want to pollute /vt/ with this but you may find this to be an enjoyable read
https://pastebin.com/5DVxBAHq

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179780
meant for >>4179467, my bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>4174597
Your family wants you to take your meds not because they worry for you but because that way you'll embarass them less.
Take them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179168
after the uno backlash i think kiara will calm down a lil bit. i understand her concern tho, she attempted to fill in the dead air with 'content' because conversation about bullshit nobody care about is apparently better than nothing and they are entertainer afterall etc blahblahblah bs..

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179780
Russia sounds like a tough place

[Anonymous No.]

>>4174597
You’re an idiot, she didn’t say that

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179742
It's fine if that's what you want to believe. But there's more going on then just what's written on a basic wikipedia page, the type of stuff that includes "layovers with the bank to keep the whole brand hostage for 30 days at a time". To me, the price UberChad paid was expensive since I'm a poorfag. But to him it was cheap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179901
it is, but I have migo-haji to help me through it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179007
Anon, you say Star Wars, but do you mean the West End Games version, the d20 version or the FFG version?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179983
Probably FFG judging by the mention of interesting dice mechanics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179980
You are literally posting straight up provably false things since the entire branding of WoD and White Wolf now belongs to Paradox and was not bought for cheap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179713
lol what digits, faggot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179982
Here's a cute migo for ya, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179713
Checked. Not the digits, but the booba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4180040
didn't think I would actually get them, just wanted to contribute a post in line with OP's level of quality

[Anonymous No.]

>>4180023
God, I hate FFG and their custom dice. L5R was just fine with 4E's d10 dice pool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4180066
lol well congratulations with getting some this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4180089
FFG funni dice take some time to learn but they're surprisingly fun once you get them. Just make sure to play online and not buy any single die from them greedy-ass jews.

[Anonymous No.]

People are surprised Paradox instantly gifted them permissions upon finding out about the permissions fuckery when they've been trying for YEARS to get even a whiff of D&D's popularity in the streaming circuit. Paradox were probably watching this and salivating because it's essentially a promo stream for a line of books that were always second fiddle to the more popular sword and magic books, the fact that they're throwing in free goodies AND established a line with Cover is actually a nice move because TTRPGs used to be somewhat popular in Japan during the '80s and '90s until they dried up due to lack of new content and translations. (Record of Lodoss War was actually an adaptation of a real homebrew campaign consisting of D&D, RuneQuest, and a couple others, for instance.)

A free promotional stream of all 5 of HoloEN collaborating on H:tV would bring in more viewers than all but one or two other tabletop streams. Imagine being gifted a promotional stream that would be right underneath Critical Role in viewership, you'd be daft NOT to support it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4180284
>Imagine being gifted a promotional stream that would be right underneath Critical Role in viewership
Above, potentially, depending on how it goes.

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>>4174597

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>>4180284
>everyone trashing new edition
>vidya fiasco
depending on how well it will go en can accidentally single handedly save the whole wod at this point

[Anonymous No.]

>>4179168
She was surprisingly good in the Jackbox stream, I'm cautiously optimistic that she's learned how to collab appropriately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4180111
and congratulations to you anon for wasting a perfectly good triple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4180370
what's the number goal on that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4180942
Agreed, the last 2 EN collab were very enjoyable to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>4180370
It's an ok time for half of burgerland, but it is a little rough that the west coast is still in work/school for the most part. VoD numbers will be buff though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4180284
Monkey Paw

[Anonymous No.]

>>4180920
Maybe if they hired actual writers and not My Mom's FF.net "Writers", or at least got somebody to do QC on the overarching lore to make sure it all fits well together, they wouldn't need saving so bad.
D&D is basically untouchable at this point thanks to sheer brand recognition, but the #2 slot has been up for grabs for ages and nobody's making any real strides to take it. No, Pathfinder doesn't count, it's just a D&D clone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181135
CR averages ~40k live viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>4174597
I bet you feel like shit now, huh dumbfuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181135
According to TwitchTracker, Critical Role has peaked at 110,800 concurrent viewers, and averages 19,068 concurrent viewers.
HoloEN eats those numbers for breakfast and is still hungry for more, but TTRPGs are a massive debuff for streamers in general so it's hard to say what the numbers will look like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4175409
Corporation 1 makes money off showing corporation 2's product while paying for a single user licence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4174496
Unironically have been waiting for this stream with anticipation. TTRPG streams in general sound like a lot of fun, I'll 100% watch all of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4180920
>everyone trashing new edition
/wodg/ has shit taste and literally everything indicates 5th is selling well

[Anonymous No.]

>>4177002
This anon is right as far as independent streamers are concerned (anyone whose familiar with the numbers knows that if a stream is big enough to 'steal' sales - you're already making more money than you're losing).

But you need to remember that a company like Cover has legal liability and gaming companies won't neccesarily react to it same way. Name me another corporate entity that regularly shows content made by other companies without express legal permission. You can't. Cover isn't in the wrong here, you guys are just being brainlet idealists. If Cover didn't follow these rules and there was real fallout from the damage (like retirements etc) you hypocrits would be blaming Cover for being dumb enough to stream with no legal protection. (Which they would be)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181082
Why thank you ;)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4180920
The "current" controversies surrounding Paradox and Onyx Path did really hurt the brand, but most of that stuff was pretty much due to a combination of bad oversight and letting some of the shit fester on its own and then getting burned hard for it, leading to a clusterfuck. Nowadays, most of the controversy is just due to the confusing differences between oWoD and Chronicles of Darkness (nWoD) and how Onyx Path and Paradox refuse to make them distinct from one another for newcomers.

>The entire White Wolf debacle with Chechnya and why the rebirth of old World of Darkness ended up getting shitcanned hard because directly tying a real-world event to persecution of minorities and then straight up saying vampires being the masterminds of it is really retarded when you're writing official lore, it turns out.
>The mess that is Beast: The Primordial and why you should never let any one book be the ultimate cross-platform story while also having incredibly cringe writing that ties into the writer's whimsical sexual orientations and repressed trauma from his youth to the point where the so-called heroes are just bullies that made him mad in high school and the amount of retribution written within is so extreme that you make the very player character an unlikeable and schizophrenic entity. Also fucked up and pissed off all the other writers because Matt, the writer of the book, made all of the other monsters in WoD have positive opinions of Beasts in his book (more Mary Sue shit) to the point that when new editions came out of the non-Beast books, they all unilaterally told Beast players to fuck off in a tiny blurb that wasn't even a sentence or two. Also infamously had a jab at Gamergate and was already super dated upon release. It then got worse when Matt had an accusation from a girl who claimed that he abused her as a teenager at a convention, which normally would be a take-it-or-leave-it situation until it was later found out that Matt's wife, who was also the lead executive of another game company, purposely hid and covered up multiple incidents of sexual harassment and abuse towards co-workers and convention goers. One of the other writers came out and substantiated the claims with Twitter receipts and now both Matt and his wife are out of work. They never lawyered up because they knew they'd stand no chance and possibly face jail time. Now Beast is both an abortion that's trying to be revived into something usable.
>The new vidya looking unpolished and an unworthy successor is more of a fault of Paradox Games than any of the actual source material would lend to. Might as well be a separate issue entirely, even if one is heavily based on the other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181623
The VtM5e lore might utterly fucked and cucked, but the rules arent bad.

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>>4181227
WoD has always been the "coldsteel the hedgehog" of TRPG settings. You can always write your own fluff as a GM but I can't count on Mori knowing how to write anything but FF.net kind of content, given how she writes her lyrics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181770
>WoD has always been...
>pic related is v5
seethe

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>>4181770
Honestly, FF-tier writing is to be expected for any TTRPG, the main point is to have fun with it. That being said, Hunter is probably the most tame out of all of them since you're normally just regular people (can be ordinary or edgy) trying to fight off supernatural threats, serial killers, slashers, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>mori fundamentally forced some paradox employee to get a membership to be able to see what the fuck was going on with permissions in the mem-only stream.
Colossally based. Off the fucking charts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4174496
>World of Darkness
>Not a fantasy adventure system
I'll take it but I don't give a shit about this setting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181763
Pretty much. The core systems are pretty solid, though I don't really care for the focus on thin bloods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181623
>selling well = good
ogey

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>>4181763
There is literally nothing wrong with v5's lore.
The second Inquisition is a great setting element and the beckoning is useful as tool for STs
>>4181738
You are aware that v5 and w5 are back in-house at Paradox, their development didn't get cancelled, however stuff obviously got fucked by the pandemic in terms of greenlighting new supplements

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181839
Seethe what? It got scrubbed clean because of woke motherfuckers.
Maybe a better example would be Vesago?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181839
Do you really need a screencap of Clan book Baali?

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>>4177068
>Fun that the japs can be so ahead on some things but so behind on others.
It feels like Japan has great talents but terrible management and beaucracy

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181867
The turnaround is too quick. It's more likely that there's a Paradox employee with clout that is also a deadbeat. Either that or they've been camping her streams since she announced the collab to gauge how much they should throw behind her.
The fact that they got in touch with Cover so quickly also indicates that Cover attempted to get in touch but probably never got a proper reply.

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>>4181918
Selling well seldom correlates with "everyone" trashing it.
Also it is good

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181929
Yeah, I know, they're still getting tweaked and updated, hell, I even have V5, my chief complaint with VtM 5e is its awful layout. They manage to make a good number system but then made it esoteric and annoying for players to navigate.

[Anonymous No.]

Post your predictions for the characters they choose

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182013
The only hint we have so far is Mori got Ame's character suggestion and was like "oh god she's going to be a gremlin" which implies either dick ass thief or murder hobo.

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>>4181975
But it often correlates with being a sanitized and simplified version made to appeal to a "wider audience" that is worse in substance due to catering to casual newfags with shallow taste.
I don't even have an opinion in this specific case as I have not played it, just saying popular does not equal good and often suggests the opposite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181963
>It feels like Japan has great talents but terrible management and beaucracy
Japan considers entertainment to be an actual profession and not a fake career that you do when you're young like the Western world, and the collectivist culture ironically creates a scenario where people are expected to self-manage by "reading the situation" and making an intelligent choice. And if you're asking "isn't that the point of a manager", then you have correctly identified the problem.

[Anonymous No.]

> Gura dies in character creation

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182013
My Oshi will be the ranged chad, I believe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182013
-> >>4182095

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>>4182013
Kiara: Something uncharacteristically brutal that nobody really acknowledges.
Watson: Goes for something pretty normal but adds some pretty goofy elements to it.
Ina: Writes a really deep and elaborate backstory or makes fightman the gun owner, no in-between.
Gura: Makes a sort of fem fatal type character and enjoys it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182077
>>4182099
>thief
>ranger
does World of Darkness even have classes like that? My only contact with it was VtMB where obviously you only had different vampire clans, but idk what else does the world offer

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181975
>selling well
>still have to rely on kickstarters for their mainline books
no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182134
I don't know, i'm pretty sure i've see a ton of vampire media where they at least have a flintlock pistol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182133
Honestly Watson strikes me as someone who would make fightman the gun owner type character if anything. Or just minmax the shit out of her character.

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>>4178737
DIdn't they drop it? I remember seeing a few clips where some people couldn't stop talking about fucking shit and other 'that guy' stuff.
I mean, they're clips so of course, but multiple of them per session is a bit much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181975
V5 it complete trash no games retarded zoomer

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178016
MyFaRoG

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182135
That's OnyxPath, V5 core, Camarilla and Anarch weren't on Kickstarter and neither is w5

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182186
Yeah actually switch Watson and Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181227
What people will never get is that there is no 2nd slot on ttrpgs. There's not a "second slot" on almost anything except maybe pepsi and coke, there's only on-brand and off-brand. People either get the product they percieve as best or they settle for an inferior one. The debate is on which one is at the top slot and which one is the decieving inferior copy, like android vs apple.
No one actually wants to use the second best thing if they can have the first one, there's no second slot as much as there's a losing pile of "not first".
DnD is TTRPGs. It is THE tabletop rpg. It is the benchmark for what is and isnt a pen and paper rpg, there's no second slot because if you're not dnd you're simply "not dnd" in the minds of most people, an offbrand rpg that may or may not be better but at the end of the day its thought as "something that isnt dnd", not as its own thing.
There's not and there will never be a real debate of pros and cons between dnd and something else that isnt just people using dnd as a measuring stick instead of comparing two systems as equals.
D&D It is the untouchable standard because it has transcended standards, it has become THE rpg, the one you put in movies, the one you use as the example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182013
Kiara makes a social character and nearly dies every time actual combat happens.
Ame and Gura make a couple of Run-and-Gun murderhobos and cause Calli headaches with their persistent "Just shoot it! It's fine!" attitudes.
Ina attempts to party fill but doesn't know the system well enough and ends up making a jack. Becomes the anchor of the team.
Calli uses her wide eyes face for about 40% of the stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181738
Things with vidya are complicated and unclear, but somewhat consensus is
>pdx hired totally new, inexperienced dev team whose main concern has always been "what shade of pink do I want my hair today" instead of making a game or listening to someone who wanted to make a game, or at least worked on the previous part
>they done shit pile instead of a game
>pdx decided that it would be a bigger blow to their reputation if they did release this game than if they just canceled it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182221
All books since the Cam/Anarch books, which fucked over White Wolf monumentally, are KS. Onyx Path and White Wolf's only fucking hope is that Mori's autism will save their shitty companies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182013
>Kiara - Malkavian Yandere-tard
>Ame - Gremlin caricature
>Ina - Artsy nice girl that doesn't want to be here
>Gura - Nosferatu or something else that fucks her over as a character trait
Bonus: None of these characters will be significantly different from their Vtuber personalities. They shall just behave like The Girls are in WOD with possibly more exaggerated traits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4178797
Early /tg/ barely mentioned it (or anything else that wasn't 40k or 3.X). RPG.net forums of the time were all over it though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4181929
>The second Inquisition is a great setting element
well, yeah
>LGVTMB activists vampires
>Not even toreadors
ehhh... no. I wouldn't say it's a great idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182273
Eh I remember there being decent progress until Covid hit and then news just flatlining.
They did seemingly approach Paradox with a decent proposal

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182013
>Ame
either detective or a literal murderhobo
>Kiara
artist/jurno type of character mainly focused on talking
>Gura
some creative character concept that she will later fail to RP as
>Ina
honestly no idea, maybe a cult member for the memes

[Anonymous No.]

>>4177002
You can stream a game. You dont actually need to ask permission to stream as long as you're adding creative input or game commentary. It is within your legal rights, it is "fair use".
YOU can do this, an indie, an individual person. A company cant.
The holocaust came from a cascading DMCA with Cover's status as a company, not a "talent management agency". If they simply oversaw streamers doing their own thing, it would've never happened, but since they have a minimum of working hours and pay them an actual salary, they're a company.
A company cannot stream games without permission from the owner, thats why Cover needs to ask. It has nothing to do with it being a japanese company or being anal about permissions for whatever other reason. Even if they KNOW they have permission, they still need to ask.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182286
W5 is in development and not on Kickstarter.
V5 companion with rules for Ravnos Salubri and Tzimisce was a free release on their website
Sabbat is in development and not on Kickstarter.
Fall of London wasn't a Kickstarter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182391
That's not how fair use works

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182374
>>Ina
>honestly no idea, maybe a cult member for the memes
I don't know much about WoD, but she often mentions she liked playing a healer in that one FF mmo, so maybe some sort of a support class, if there is one

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182288
They're playing Hunter, not Vampire. Even if it was Vampire, this is nWoD so it'd be Requiem instead if Masquerade (so no Malks)

[Anonymous No.]

What's the point of this thread? There is a thread about the collab right now, is it a thread about a narrative? Is narrativeposting allowed in this board? I thought that this board was about chuubas not a writing general

[Anonymous No.]

Why couldn't they do a cool setting like Dark Sun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182491
This is the anti thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182491
Imagine being this much of a hall monitor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182491
>Is narrativeposting allowed in this board?
80% of this board is rrat posting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182013
I have a very strong feeling that Gura is going to do her best to make her character into Dante, judging by how much she's into DMC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182464
There are no classes

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182516
Anti thread are not allowed, just read the rules
>>4182547
It's just that you faggots open ten thousand shit threads every day deleting real ones and usefull generals, the meidos in this board are lazy as fuck
>>4182581
Funny because if you open a narrative thread about the zombie or the male shark it gets deleted in 10 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182500
>muh D&D
Fuck off, there's a billion different streams and campaigns out there for your kind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182635
I'm not into TTP at all, what's with the D&D hate here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182464
World of Darkness operates off of skill sets with no real pre-defined class. You can absolutely make specific archetypes, but there's no hard definition like there is in other TTRPGs. Here's what the character sheet looks like. The list of merits is far too large and there's no pdf sharing on this board, but you get the idea.
Also in b4
>politics YAB
That's just how you can figure out hierarchies, details in governments, bureaucracies, social networks, that sort of thing. It's the ability that lets you know who you can (or cannot) immediately tell who's in charge or who to talk to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182612
>deleting real ones and usefull generals
There's room for 200 threads anon, no need to play wannabe-janny and try to micro-manage every single one for topic and quality. It's attitudes like this that temporarily got quality threads like holofightz, nasfaq, and vt-craft deleted, let the board have some breathing room to develop a personality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182677
D&D is the most well known TTRPG product by a mile so it gets way more exposure than everything else. It's also the one that most new players start with. Some people have a chip on their shoulder about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182677
baby's first RPG system and therefore a newfag containment zone

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182677
It's the CoD of TTRPGs. Everyone and their mother has played it or is playing it, it's just overplayed, not that it inherently is bad, just bland in a lot of cases. It's nice when other tabletops get the spotlight and it isn't D&D 5e Campaign Stream #23908523.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182373
>there being decent progress until Covid hit
the things people are thought to be for just the flaws of an early pre-alpha build apparently were intended as an on release gameplay mechanics.
According to the available footage, they literally made combat even worse than the first game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182677
this whole thread as well as the short lived drama has been a psyops by paradox

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182810
huh suddenly I feel like purchasing a ww2 era grand strategy game

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182612
>Funny because if you open a narrative thread about the zombie or the male shark it gets deleted in 10 minutes
Anti threads are not allowed and neither are doxx. Ollie and Artemis anti threads go full doxxbeat in their schizo hate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182838
>whole thread is just an ad for vic3

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182848
>Anti threads are not allowed
You have to be a complete moron to believe this. Targeted harassment like calling for raids and doxxing is not allowed, you are more than free to post threads simply hating on a particular chuuba. If it's about the vtuber and their content all opinions are allowed, including "your oshi is trash."

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182911
>it's ya boy ready to play some tabletop
>but before we begin, a word from our sponsor...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182953
>>4182911
I'd actually love to see them play some grand strategy. Like a 5-people EU4 game or something. But I assume that games like that that use real countries would be too yabai and wouldn't be allowed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4183059
they would lose focus the first 10 minutes. Grand stretegy games aren't good for streaming

[Anonymous No.]

>>4183110
I feel like the fact that they don't require too much focus isn't a problem. Minecraft streams do very well, despite minecraft not being very engaging. They kind of use it like free talk but with extra stimuli

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182838
>>4182911
>>4182953
>>4183059
>>4183110
GUY I DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME!
ON THE 29 OF JUNE PARADOX INTERACTIVE WILL ANOUNCE A NEW HOLOLIVE x STELLARIS SPECIEC PACK!
INCLUDING ALL VTUBERS AS ANIMATED PORTRAITS AS WELL AS TWO SHIPSETS, ONE FO-

[Anonymous No.]

>>4182848
>muh antis
Take this fucking stan-speak back to twitter

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>>4183258
new how

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>>4182677
When every thread that mentions TTRPG collabs on /vt/ leads to people asking "why not DnD" and thus causing thread-derailing arguments, it starts to bread a bit of a hateboner for DnD on the board after a while. On top of that, a lot of the people asking why they won't do DnD are likely new players who have only played DnD, and because a section of the current wave of new DnD players are particularly annoying, it puts a chip on the shoulder of the old ones.

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>World of darkness explicitly states you can't play if you're a fascist
>Gura vehemently refuses to comply with the rule and hence the collab cannot happen

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>>4183273
>n-nooo, we were using it on /jp/ a whole 8 months ago
Not fooling me, twittard

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>>4180284
>TTRPGs used to be somewhat popular in Japan during the '80s and '90s until they dried up due to lack of new content and translations.
It's still pretty popular though Japanese games and CoC had pretty much taken over the market. DnD is somewhat popular but they have to compete with Sword World which is Japanese fantasy game.

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>>4182013
>Kiara
kindly doctor/healer, will mention how useful she is a lot, and will be the face of the party when talking to npcs.
>Ame
scrappy gremlin grease monkey, will drive vehicles and use guns, and will suggest the most unsubtle, direct solution to every problem.
>Ina
information/magic expert, will solve all the puzzles and explain what's going on to the party, and the plot will involve her backstory.
>Gura
the frontline fighter who talks shit and gets hit. She will comment on her strong likes and dislikes for different npcs, becoming the moral compass of the party. Calli will quietly alter some rolls so that she doesn't get killed.

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How Gura-friendly is the ruleset?

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>>4184831
WoD is rules light and they're playing one of the simpler books. nWoD Hunter is basically "what if we made Supernatural into a tabletop RPG" these days.

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>>4184831
Well, not quite pathfinder difficultly but definitely harder than 5e.

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>>4184918
>Dice Pools harder than 5e
You know you're not slick shilling 5e in two different threads at the same time, right retard?
Begone back to whatever hole you came from.

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>>4183319
>gura
>not ame
>not kiara

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>>4183900
Do you think Mori is the kind of person who would play a dmpc?

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>>4184918
>harder than 5e.
Any TRPG would be harder than TRPG for retarded like 5e.

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>>4184918
>1 attribute + 1 skill
>hard

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>>4183319
>fascists literally getting stopped by words on a page
You can't make this shit up.

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>>4186033
>nah, take off the hood, Cleetus, rules say we can't do it

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Looking at the release on https://www.worldofdarkness.com/dark-pack it seems totally useless for Hololive. Hololive is using it for explicitly commercial purposes which puts almost all of it in a very grey area. It seems tailored to individual streamers, not a corporation.

Also these boilerplate disclaimers are pretty worthless in general. They very often are preempted by statute or case law that can totally fuck you in the ass if you aren't careful. There's no meeting of the minds here. And the rights holder would have a very strong position, especially against a corporate entitiy.

So while I see why Mori and the managers thought they were fine, and Paradox is no doubt fine with it, I also see why corporate freaked out.

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>>4183319
Can I watch though?

[Anonymous No.]

Well, WoD itself showed up and said thanks for playing. Everything will be fine, at least for today. Bury this shit.