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What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as countries interacting with each other through means peaceful and militant alike!

I don't care to come up with an Edition

Previous thread: >>41493430

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/

Introductory document for new anons:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-intro

CURRENT GOALS:
- Survive
- Be nice

>Note that the map is set in stone.
>Casual Stories or Greentexts of your general in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Ignore any trolls, falseflaggers or dramafags. Report, hide and move on.
>Try to keep hornyposting, socposting and funposting to the absolute minimum until we hit the bump limit.
>Please think twice before posting if you're intoxicated or feeling moody.

THREAD REP TRIPCODES:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-rep-trips

CLIMATE & TECTONICS POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents:
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems:
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-climate
Tectonic Plates and their Movements:
https://rentry.org/dmkyc
Geologic Provinces:
https://rentry.org/ztaf99
Minerals:
https://rentry.org/Minerals-Ores-VTWBG

CURRENT MAGIC SYSTEM:
https://rentry.org/chuubanite

FLAG POSTS:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-flags

LORE ARCHIVE:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit

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Anchor post for any story/map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes. Please mark and tag the section you want the relevant content to be archived. Unmarked posts will not be archived.
Anchored posts in the last thread will be archived within a day after the thread has been archived. You may also ask for your own archive posts to be updated or organized according to your standards.
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Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated/missing lore in OP.
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/VTWBG/ HISTORY
Anchor post for events in the /vtwbg/ canon timeline.
Reply to this post or commentate directly in the sheet suggestions for events to add to the timeline.
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nchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/m7rhg (most recent)
Aggregated Past Vote Results:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-votez
>Bylaws
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-bylaws
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

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Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

For Discussion:
>>41500127
>>41493880


>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/m7rhg (most recent)
Aggregated Past Vote Results:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-votez
>Bylaws
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-bylaws
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

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CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-prompts

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>LORE CATCHUP ANCHOR
Last thread's new lore/discussion you might have missed:

>>/vt/CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-prompts

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>>41495680
>>41497976
>>41503919
>>41578032
>>41633751
>>41625042

Reply to this post to be included in the next thread's lore catchup

>> No.41636551

>>41634971
first i would like to clear up something in regards to when i told you i had wronged you 2 days ago since when i got home and could write more properly, you weren't in thread anymore it seems and i want this properly out before you decide if and how much you want to continue interacting with me.

first is that i want to apologize once more for the whole volcano thing, i tried once before but i want t reiterate that despite my own wrries about them i never meant for it to get that out of hand and mix you in with that.

second is that i actually was a major factor into the shit that happened with alice recently as i too had accused her and you of being the same person a day before due to my personal fears and worries and overall bad mental space that the last 2-3 weeks had been for me in here and you two people being the same oro at least friends was a convenient way of thinking that would explai all my worries and fears. With that i not only wronged a friend but also you and i won't make excuses for my shitty actions because thats what they were, shitty actions.

knowing this, if you rather stay away and not deal with me, i can understand that and won't hold it against you but to me it's important to get this out in the open because it would be unfair towards you.

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>>41636551
>first is that i want to apologize once more for the whole volcano thing, i tried once before but i want t reiterate that despite my own wrries about them i never meant for it to get that out of hand and mix you in with that.

No that is fine!! No issue, i can understand your concerns..

>second is that i actually was a major factor into the shit that happened with alice recently as i too had accused her and you of being the same person a day before due to my personal fears and worries and overall bad mental space that the last 2-3 weeks had been for me in here and you two people being the same oro at least friends was a convenient way of thinking that would explai all my worries and fears. With that i not only wronged a friend but also you and i won't make excuses for my shitty actions because thats what they were, shitty actions.

It seems she is everyone unfortunately, but i understand that we all make mistakes and have fears..
I have no problem working with you, i want to actually!! <3

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Are we in the kiss and make up phase of menehara popcorn hour?

>> No.41637039

>>41636939
No, we are in the "pinkman can't spell Menhera correctly" hour.

>> No.41637112

>>41637039
I'm spelling it correctly, I always add an extra e because I like it that way.

>> No.41637267

>>41637112
That's not how words work. This isn't a Colour/Color thing, you are just plain spelling it wrong.

>> No.41637330

>>41637267
That's exactly how words work.

>> No.41637567

>>41637330
Maybe if you are 5. Well, that's not a far off estimate of your mental capacity sometimes.

>> No.41637684

>>41636700
Thanks for that, know that i mean you no ill will. Last 2-3 Weeks jsut really sucked and sometimes i feel like i am a punching bag for many and that jsut really got me stressed out.

Anyway as for you questions, i thought you didn't want to be mercenaries after the initial conflict anymore?

And of course we would love to trade with you a lot. As one of the big trading nations we can get stuff froom pretty much around the world if its accessable by public and we ourselves got a shitton of craftsmen that specialise in all kinds of old techniques from across the world and gave it their spin to make it still worth it.

In fact if there are some way of crafting you have brought with you from the old lands, then we would be happy if some of our people are given a chance to learn them.

>> No.41637835

>>41637684
Feel bad for you!!
No I meant for the current conflict and such.
Do you want to formalize a trade deal? I will need to think about the last part, I think we both are similar in that we are craftsmen specializing in quality so we can learn from each other.

>> No.41637870

>>41637567
That's how words have always worked. U kno this

>> No.41638109

>>41637870
Well, I think this is a rather poor argument here, Pink man. A rather poor showing for a heavy hitter like yourself (Allegedly). This is like the arguments schizochama makes where he just says things without substance.

>> No.41638120

Half my town's closed with 4 inches of snow. I need to stop sleeping in. How's lorewritibg today?

>> No.41638292

>>41638109
This is going exceedingly well from my perspiration

>> No.41638436

>>41638292
Ok cunt

>> No.41638907

>>41637835
Ahh, well foor the /ccu/ conflict, we can offer you gold, resources, help in getting more of your people across the ocean. Just say what you prefer and in case of resources what you would want.

As for a trade deal going forward to now, is there anything in particular that you look for or just overall something that encourages favourible trades between us?

And yeah sure, your craftsmen are also always welcome to come to us and learn from us too.

>> No.41639091

>>41638907
Umm how about gold and transport from the islands to mainland??
General trade and lets agree to have craftsmen learn.

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>>41638436
You need me for something? I'll have you know I am in the process of planning something most devilish, so you'll have to be quick.

>> No.41642890

>>41639091
Ok, we pay you in gold and transport you from the islands to the main land for the conflict.

as for the trade deal its general trade between us and a workpass for craftsmen that allow them to live in each others nations for the purpose of work and learning.

would you like to exchange port offices too like you did with alice?

and lastly i would like to propose a deal between us in regards to the straight that is our national border as in we keep this guarded and closed off towards outside nations and have it be a way for nations of the north to trade with each other in the inland sea with no military presence. Does that sound interesting to you? /voms/ does something similar with the straight that divides the continent halfs.

In the same vein i would like to come up with an official name for the straight because i hope you can understand i am not very particular about calling it the straight of theophilos.

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>> No.41645064

>>41642890
Yes to the port offices, trade and first deal.
Yes, let us close off the strait too. I called the sea behind you the silver sea for no reason but we call the strait the “Strait of Trinitas” for you, myself and Lig being the nations there. 3 nations using it right???

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I'll be taking an indefinite break from the project. Thanks for the good times, and I hope to come back soon.

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>>41645799
Farewell... for now... i will miss you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>41645799
I did the same and it does help. Hope you have a nice time off!

>> No.41646804

>>41645799
I'll miss the yellow birbs we made.

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>>41645799
Hope we can see you again soon!

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>>41645799
take care...

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>>41645799
No you fukin ain't, get your ass back in the climate mines!

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>>41645799
take care, friend.

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>>41645799
Farewell climate friend for bow

>> No.41647425

Who else is graduating from /vtwbg/?

>> No.41647489

>>41647425
Cunt and retro for the 20th time.

>> No.41647709

>>41647425
Me if I become vTuber I guess.

>> No.41647951

>>41645064
I will put it in a rentry, for port offices, one in Theophila because its the closest to us and makes quick delivery easier and Atalannta because its close to the capital which would be a trade heavy port i assume is what i would like if that is ook. in return you would have one in our Capital and in our major city across from Theophila for the same reasons.

as for the strait, how would "Everlasting Strait" sound? a marriage should be everlasting so that would be relevant to you, everlasting is a good mindset for vtubers i think since /lig/ is about chuubas that are big and hopefully everlasting due to it and retro things cann be considered everlasting so that would be relevant for us.

>>41645799
Have a good one, lord knows a break can always be a good thing

>> No.41648246

>>41647951
Sure!! that works, but idk about the name...too unchuuni... What about "Strait of Siro"??

>> No.41649692

>>41648246
i'm unsure how Siro is more chuuni or how "Everlasting" is not a chuuni term but Siro has no relations to either thread so not really feeling that one.

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>find worldbuilding thread
>meet cool people
>take a bit too long to start worldbuilding for my thread
>turns out some are already having a hiatus
>can't know if the others will leave when I try to worldbuild more
>can't know if it was because of recent events that caused unnecessary drama in the threads
Man... I really should've been faster worldbuilding... I'm just being panicky but you people are some of the coolest I've met since glancing at another general that wasn't mine.

>> No.41652114

>>41652014
they always come back, i wouldn't worry about it if i were you

>> No.41652223

>>41652014
Write at your own leisure and worry about coordination after; have fun with it at first anon

>> No.41652337

>>41652014
You can get burned out if you hang around the thread for too long. Especially if you bite schizo bait or don't get feedback. Plus sometimes life duties get in the way.

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>>41652014
Don't worry, they might take breaks, but they can never leave.

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I’m working on the ethnography I mentioned a while ago but I don’t know why I chose a format that’s inherently technical and pretty boring when written by a hack like me

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>>41645799
Take care. Hope whatever you do in the meantime goes well!

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>>41652881
It'll turn out fine if you did some reading beforehand and pretend hard enough. It sort of worked for me, and I'm the hackiest hack in the world. Less thinking more writing, at least till you go into the editing phase.

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>>41654824
I want an editor

>> No.41655527

>>41655371
Post it and don't anchor it. So you will bait anons here to edit it for you when it inevitably comes out with more mistakes than you can count. Believe in yourself!

>> No.41655567

>>41655371
Yea sure. I'm a harsh one tho.

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I don’t know if I’m strong enough mentally

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>>41659624
My whole story got taken down, so yeah.. i need one two

>> No.41661524

>>41659624
You won't know until you try it.

>>41661040
Yea, it's fucking embarrasing.

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>>41659624
YOUR LITERALLY ONE OF, IF NOT THE BEST WRITER HERE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT!?

>> No.41662102

>>41661850
og HATES alice

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>>41662102
Actually I like her.

>> No.41664738

>ywn teach a cute Risuner girl how to make honey nut cake.

I'm still sorting out my schedule. How's maple syrup and honey farming on the /who/ - /rrat/ border?

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>>41664738
I'm looking into it, if there is any, then it's likely not directly on the border. Still, easy enough to move around the country.
I somewhat doubt Honey production would be a massive thing, maybe I can retake that "only produced by the rich" thing
I'm not too keen on having them be common products, but it'd make sense if we consider the sugar rush spring festival, so I'd say maple syrup at least should be easy and relatively cheapt to get.

>> No.41666098

>>41665498
The thing about honey is you do need to take care of bees. We were looking into raising our own bees but the city won't let us do it in city borders. A flower garden is nice. Though honey bees travel up to 20 miles away from the nest. And if you're in a farm then you'll have lots of flowers from crops. We'll have to make a bee keeper suit. Building the box shouldn't be too difficult otherwise.

Even if the soil quality isn't the best you should have lots of wildflowers.

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>>41665498
Need to look into it but honey is probably a big secondary product of the berry farms. For example strawberry plants are hermaphroditic so farmers are probably pretty happy to let bees pollinate for them. Artificial pollination should be practiced pretty widely in this period but for some rural areas with less manpower bees are probably the main pollinator. In fact honey although less productive should be the most accessible form of sugar for people before the global sugar cane trade and sugar beats.

>> No.41666499

>>41666098
You ever gonna have shit done or just arrange the chairs.

>> No.41667683

>>41666499
Been busy with snow delaying appointments and re-arranging appointments. I'm trying to find a decent graph paper app for phone if I'm going to be away from PC most of the day again.

>> No.41673429

Bump

>> No.41674919

>>41666341
About pollinators, butterflies is just as important if not more important than bees.Bees are only favored because of honey.

>> No.41674967

>>41645799
Nasfaq Kronie nooo!

>> No.41675539

>>41647709
Bread dog it really isn't that hard to be a /asp/ie, I've already made a model and rigged it on live2d's trial, it looks like hotshit but it exists publically.

>> No.41675715

https://youtu.be/WpMRV0r08CI
I found this.

>> No.41678809

bump

>> No.41680917

bump

>> No.41683070

nump

>> No.41684266

butt

>> No.41686120

bump

>> No.41686271

pkg declares war on vrt

>> No.41687997

Chapter 0: why is there a need for a bump when you could make a post instead?

>> No.41688791

>>41687997
what of? with who? what if i can't think of anything, or write it all down by the time the thread reaches page 11? what if i just want the thread to survive to the next day? when others are around, that makes it easier, but then there wouldn't be any need for bumps in the first place. this just makes it easier for when we can't have everything we want. plus, it keeps anons anonymous, and stops timeloops until everyone else is around to engage in them. once others are around, you can leave without too much concern since nobody specifically knew you were there in the first place. speaking of which.

>> No.41688928

>>41649692
well, i said siro because neither of our peoples existed there in the past right? And it is the Kizuna Ocean so I thought of Ai and Siro, so it could make sense.
Or the big strait between the two landmasses can be the Sea of Siro.

I looked up names for straits in real like and most of them seem to be named after a city or place. Many of our cities are just CCU cities that we conquered and massacred, and idk how old CCU is compared to you so maybe name it after one of those cities. Unless you call it Strait of (city name) that is your big city there. That will be something I can agree to!!

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>>41688928
ah i did research on the ccu thread!! it seems to be a combination thread so that can be taken into account too!!

>> No.41690695

>>41688928
well since the shared origin of many people on our continent actually isn't /jp/ but "offtopia" aka other things like /trash/ since thats where /wvt/ was from mainly or even stuff like reddit etc where many of the EN tubers come from, i wanted parts of it to reflect that heritage in that regard and is why Siroo is not something i am too keen on.

i appreciate the offer of naming it after my city, but i purposely waited for others in that region because i rather name it together than selfishly name it myself just because i was the first writer of the region.

if i may suggest onne more thing "Strait of Saotome" after Nina Saotome, she is a /lig/ger that has beenn around for quite some time, is also in /vrt/ because she plays a lot of retro and she also would have relevance for /ccu/ in that fallenshadow, a chuuba from former /ccu/ actually considers her a very dear and important friend.

>> No.41691464

>>41688791
Damn pg you actually overthinking on a fucking chapterposter post? Meds my dude, unironically

>> No.41691586

>>41690695
I agree to Saotome!!!

>> No.41691782

>>41691464
He's really not

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i had an idea i figured i would mention. when i initially thought of the abilities that /meat/heads would have in-universe, as in the very first proper mention of a magic system in this thread, see pic-rel, i imagined it as a power that would grow in strength and control based on how much each individual user followed the core concept's philosophy and way of life, with /meat/ magic gaining strength through harm, and control through pain, but the greatest form of harm is death, and hell is described as the greatest form of pain which occurs in the afterlife (ie after death), and i've recently been thinking about hxh's magic system, so i figured that old idea might work better with a post-mortem sort of thing. this only makes sense if viewed in the context of the cylinder-analogy, and might require a glyph that adds the condition to all /meat/ chuubanite which strengthens /meat/ chuubanite based on the following of the life cycle per-user.
basically, a catalognaut could theoretically create and sentence themselves to their own personal hell scape where their "soul" will go to when their body fails, then use the resulting additional strength and control caused by the damage and pain to "resurrect" themselves with power to spare, similar to how hxh does it. this of course requires that they know how to actually resurrect themselves, and any degree of failure means they will be sentenced to live the rest of their afterlife in that hell scape. btw, for those that didn't know, i discussed with someone how an afterlife could be possible in this setting, and it likely requires a few very complex glyphs, if not beings that can directly communicate with the conceptual realm, hence why it would be easiest with a catalognaut. an afterlife wouldn't be natural, but could be granted by the default conditions of a given concept, but likely would not be eternal, depending on the nature of the concept itself.
to put it somewhat more broadly, it might be possible to create "conditions" that could change the way chuubanite naturally interacts based on any identifiable factor that is written into it's concept via artificial concepts. these conditions can also be used to either strengthen or limit the use of chuubanite based on those factors, so long as the concepts defining what those conditions and effects are are maintained, most likely through the use of glyphs, so it'll end once the glyphs become ineffective unless it's a natural result of the core concepts that a given nation's chuubanite is based on. i'm going to bed, but when /meat/bro and founder see this, as well as any of the other chuubanite autists, please let me know what you guys think.

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>>41636361
I would like to propose the placement of two nations in North Indie bros. I am a big fan of Kawaii and i visit there thread a lot so i really want to write for them and have some fun. I also believe that /wvt/ should be placed on the map as well. Here are the reasons and this map includes jidf borders for the sake of it being easier for voteanon.

>/wvt/
>1. Retro, and I agreed that since they are the /hlgg/ of Indie north, they should be on the map because of historical reasons and to get better local lore. Neither of us plan on writing for them, but they should be on the map because many splits are /wvt/ splits like /lig/ and /vrt/.
>2. They should be that big based on that.

>/pkg/
>1. I really love Kawaii as I said and would consider myself very familar with their thread culture and their chuubas. I may be the rep for moon, but that shouldn't disqualify me from my second home.
>2. Most of the land is desert, thus the size is because of that.
>3. The island that is claimed is perfect for Sava as a tropical paradise island, so for lore reasons I would like that too.
>4. Like Jidf, they are a growing community.

Any thoughts?
Moonafic btw, not hiding myself.

>> No.41695826

>>41695574
Sounds good to me. Is there a particular reason for /pkg/ to be mostly a desert and/or bordering /jidf/?

>> No.41696177

>>41695574
in regards to /wvt/ i ahve spoken with others before and just above with rumina anon mentioned the fact that /wvt/ historical is a big important factor for the continent and with no placement of them it is hard to set some of that history in place even without writing lore for them directly.

i also asked and given feedback in regards to the /pkg/ placement and from my side it seems fine and with the idea fo writing and voting not beign related and more freedom back to write for fun, i thinkk this place is a gooood thing because i also knwo others have stated their want to write foor /pkg/ potentially too.

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>>41695826
Desert was no reason kek, I wanted the spot largely because i feel like it would fit well there with the other threads like /jidf/, /pcg/, /aeg/ (RIP), /voms/ and /tsun/.

>> No.41696309

>>41696201
Fair enough. I don't know if the /pkg/ island would be particularly tropical, so you might want to other the climate anons to pitch in on that.

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>>41695574
I agree 100% about wvt given my own thoughts about it in the past and conversations with Retro about the history of western vtuber threads and splits.

As for PKG. It sounds good to me. I like overall where it is compared to the other small corpos, thought i would have felt the same if it was down in its original spot. I also do like the idea of this overall because really, even within the current system, this should be allowed 100% because this project is about fun.

>> No.41696433

>>41696309
That's the plan! Sava is a beast jungle princess so maybe chuubanite effect? Idk..

>> No.41696517

>>41696433
Pls no more magic climate...

>> No.41696539

>>41696368
Thanks!

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>>41696517
Not magic climate, but chuubanite effect or something you know? Not sure how that stuff would work totally

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I will keep this brief. I am withdrawing from this project. I have spent years attempting to convince every anon here to rewrite their lore in the manner I envisioned. But you idiots always dispute among yourself, initiating time loops and acting irrationally when I bring up the topics of squirrel steak and nuclear bombs.
I quit. You should have seen my brilliant plan. My innovative uniting thoughts! However, you idiots wrecked it with your constant autism and yellowwomanposting.
Good day.

>> No.41697256

>>41696309
i will admit i don't know much about climate but froom talks i had in the past and from what i understand, a desert cliamte for this island does not mean it is a sadny desert area but rather is about tempterature and such and rainforests aka jungles are in the regions of deserts and in fact its their deforestation tha tleads to sandy deserts. with how the winds carry rain, there isn't really any big mountains in the way till the island that would block rain too much either.

so the island being a jungle should be well within reason

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>>41697256
It's not crazy, you are right. There are a lot of factors that can be taken into account. IRL there aren't many islands of that size irl that are desert. The closest I can think of is Socotra, which isn't a desert at all and is one of the most biodiverse places on earth. But there also isn't a good irl comparison to this that comes to mind based on the weather pattern and the massive mountains in Tsunderia and that the wind blows away from this area in general. But there are other localized factors that can change things, and i would believe it is likely semi-arid personally.

>> No.41698377

>>41694287
>resurrection
this kinda fences on mary-sue territory dont you think? The idea of making your own afterlife would downplay the importance of our chuubas since theyre the ones who decide what will happen to their followers. Unless of course theyre /here/ or the person dying is an /asp/irant.

Also as for the old Blessings lore you wrote, I believe that enhancements like Mai's Blessings could fall under chuubanite adaptation. Similarly to the deadbeat mineralfication.
Passively; each meathead has the same endurance and faster regen adaptation.
Actively; each patron deity grants its own blessing that can only be inherited genetically. They can only be activated through glyphs drawn or tattoo'd upon their flesh. You won't know which blessing you were born with until you glyph yourself. Komma's blessings could grant flesh tendrils, AwA's blessings grant ability to fleshgraft with your own hands (I've kinda implied this with the doctor in the diphallic ritual story), Kyusai's blessing... would work in that idea you have. As her lore is resurrection + salvation. Someone with Kyusai's Blessing would be able to take on the pain of others, in their own personal torment, to heal and save them.

>> No.41698473

>>41698377
Can I ask a general question about /meat/ chuubas since some aren't active like Komma. How do you guys treat that?

>> No.41698892

>>41694287
>>41698377
how on earth is this balanced compared to anyone else in the world?

>> No.41699014

Hey wait for me to get on break before the ressurection chuubanite discussion

>> No.41699218

>>41694287
>>41698377
this doesn't jsut fence on it, this is just straight up mary-sue territory to a point i question if pg is being serious or making a joke. Same with the making your own afterlife or the afterlife not being "natural".

i'm not even sure how to react to this properly.

>> No.41699552

>>41699218
Hey shut up for a sec, I'm getting here soon. He's making sense but he's doing it through his own /meat/ interpretation, he would've done better to word it through universal catalognaut abilities but he is making sense. Don't be a jackass.

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>>41696517
>>41696586

>> No.41699616

>>41699218
>>41699552
Also, not to say that he's entirely right. He's making a few missteps no doubt and the ideas need a little touching up but they're not totally invalid

>> No.41699717

>>41699552
Tbh it does read like a bad joke

>> No.41700103

>>41698473
Now that you mentioned it, we've never thought about it. Kyusai is a confirmed retirement so that's deicide. But Komma never announced her retirement. She just ghosted and went off the grid. exiled deity? Kommatose haha
>>41698892
>>41699218
it's not! I dont approve of giving the bdsm wizards the power of making fake afterlives to cheat death

>> No.41700140

>>41699552
>Don't be a jackass.
yeah i would like to throw this right back at you. but sure have your ressurection powers and selfmade afterlifes while also deciding among yourselfs the canon of how afterlifes are ot be viewed. Obviously only selected people are allowed in this talk

>> No.41700230

It's just PG running his train of thoughts in text form as always. You dont have to take it as serious

>> No.41700288

>>41700230
If we don't people will cry about double standards again. Gotta be as equally serious when approaching any discussion, no matter who it's from.

>> No.41700638

>>41700230
Except whenever meat comes up in lore, suddenly something found on page 50 of the '/meat/ files' comes to light and the other party gets called lazy for not knowing that meat has everything set up to the point that it is
a. impossible to write with them because you simply are overwhelmed by the information they have.
b. impossible to write with them because there was some conversation back in april that you didn't do your reps for.

serious question for /meat/heads, when was the last time you actually collaborated on a project with someone that wasn't deadbeat, someone who has been around since the beginning?

>> No.41700799

>>41700140
Dont you have robots that can literally best anything in a fight?

>> No.41700907

>>41700288
He did said it's meant for me and meatbro. So youre free to not take it seriously.
>>41700638
>other party gets called lazy for not knowing
I dont ever recall calling anyone lazy. In fact I dont ever recall victim blaming for not memorizing everything we do.
>when was the last time you actually collaborated
Touche

>> No.41701252

>>41700907
Founder, that is valid criticism overall though. It IS hard to work with you guys because of the complexity.

>> No.41702463

>>41700140
Literally just make an explanation or nice counter to the proposition instead of whining, have a discussion instead of a rant. You're not bebi, stop being bebi.
It's more interesting to have a discussion about the possibility of cognitive magic and I'm not interested in seeing another blah blah meat bias blah blah. I'm actually interested in these concepts and I'd rather hear what he actually envisions instead of making an assumption to be angry at.
>>41694287
>basically, a catalognaut could theoretically create and sentence themselves to their own personal hell scape where their "soul" will go to when their body fails, then use the resulting additional strength and control caused by the damage and pain to "resurrect" themselves with power to spare, similar to how hxh does it.
I disagree here with the idea that this can work with the conditions you mentioned if they're being compared with the same ones in HxH, or at the very least that it would or could work in the way that it's worded, though I'm interestsd in what exactly you mean in terms of temporary afterlife. From what I understand, anything that can be used to avoid death would also consume energy in housing the soul so even if you had a minihell that a catalognaut of meat alignment could use to potentially remake and ressurect a body, I have my doubts that the pocket hell would be able to stay up long enough for the catalognaut to recharge, it would be consuming a shit ton of magic quanta and could easily start draining the catalognaut that it's housing immediately if it's power source goes out, hell, it's very likely that establishing an alternate source of energy and a route for the catalognaut's soul to follow might be next to impossible to do. It's also important to note that pain itself can act as something that would require an input device, especially to something that no longer has nerves or biological functions to stimulate pain, you'd also be using energy in not only having a mini hell but also in making it hell in the first place, unless I've made a misstep here somewhere.

>> No.41702686

Imagine the thread meltdown if it was yellow woman and pg posting simultaneously

>> No.41702828

>>41702686
They have talked to each other numerous times?

>> No.41703042

>>41702463
>same poster
I think an extremely knowledgeable catalognaut or a group of expert and experienced glyph crafter could potentially create an "after life" but the definition of this afterlife and the nature of ressurection in question is very up to interpretation. I don't see ressurection, as in True Ressurection, as being a possibility in this world, instead I much prefer the idea of a catalognaut pooling every ounce of their magic quanta into a singular effect that can encapsulate or execute their will. If you want to use HxH as an example, Pitou's last attack is a good one and "Oh my Rubber Nen" is a fucking awful one, whatever you manage to do in terms of reincarnation really should be boiled down to a core concept of the chuuba or a set of concepts boiled down to the absolute minimum degree with the sacrifice of all other functions in order to achieve those things post mortem, and even then what actually gets ressurected probably won't even be considered human or even a living creature. I'd even be down to suggest that such a creature is severely restricted in automation to the point of basically being a puppet and requires a final external force to actually "revive" your weird fucked up homonculus thing.

>> No.41706749

This is annoying. Twenty years ago I would have been able to download a 72 dpi grid jpeg for free. Now I have to sign up for subscriptions because grid paper is stock images? I fucking hate modern internet.

>> No.41709919

>>41706749
Did you uh... Consider checking paint.net plugins?

>> No.41711069

>>41698377
i am not talking about current technology. i am talking about potential applications of chuubanite. many of my ideas that i have mentioned are only applicable for a much later period.

>> No.41712808

>>41711069
Why is it that meat has far more uses for their chuubanite than anyone else? Honest question.

>> No.41713346

>>41712808
Because /meat/ is more interested in it than everyone else.

>> No.41714295

>>41700907
sorry founder but that is factually wrong, pg has accused newer writers that don't represent /meat/ properly when trying to interact with /meat/ of not having properly read your lore at all and that tells them they should do their reps.
>>41702463
so much for the jackass part

>> No.41715314

>>41709919
I can make my own grid image. I mean Krita and GIMP have snap to grid. I just want the grid as an image to make floor plans readable.

>> No.41716102

>>41714295
Anon you're incomprehensible at times, explain what jack assery has been done?

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I made a 50x50 inch graph paper grid. The default setting is 100 pixels per inch horizontally and vertically. You can use it if you want.

>> No.41716880

>>41716102
well pink man, then i guess you will have to die dumb in this regard if you cannnot look back at your own statements and reflect on what of that may or may not be seen as not very diplomatic but kind of jackassery yourself

>> No.41717120

>>41716880
I am utterly and totally disinterested in the part of this dialog that doesn't have to do with hypothetical chuubanite mechanics so is this that or is this not that?

>> No.41718409

>>41713346
>Creates their own magic system that fits them perfectly before anyone else.

>> No.41718657

>>41711069
I want to understand how your concept works when said chuuba is graduated if this is in the future.

>> No.41718776

>>41718409
Anon I'm unironically, genuinely curious what the point you're trying to make is, in a completely honest way. Can you explain it in a non vauge way?

>> No.41719202

>>41718776
The point is basic: chuubanite applications in my honest opinion are designed specifically for /meat/ to use in ways that no one else can. Take say 774. How exactly does chuubanite benefit them when their thread is mostly an image dump. Or /indie/, which is just shilling small jp vtubers? How can you translate such threads anywhere near the complexity of meat from those threads, and furthermore, what benefit do they even get from it?

>> No.41719501

>>41719202
not all threads are created equal. this was rather apparent when we all designed and agreed to the concept of chuubanite. 774 can be great artists from their chuubanite concept if that is what their thread is, not familiar with them or they can have glyphs that can help with visual memory to be programmed into something more powerful. its hardly /meat/s fault that we have made the best use of chuubanite but i beg you to look at /morig/ as another heavily invested chuubanite nation. im sorry if this came off wrong.

>> No.41719853

>>41719501
Your thread doesn’t exist anymore, it will likely never exist again, and yet here you are. Here is a question: how exactly do meat chuubanite concepts even work without a thread? You want to claim not all threads are created equal, I in fact agree. /meat/ is no longer an existing thread, and has less presence on this board than both of the threads i mentioned now. So /meat/, o mighty /meat/ should accept that it is no longer a thread of any equality.

>> No.41720173

>>41719853
Bro what type of mental ryona were you put through, you're so angy at them

>> No.41720293

>>41720173
>cant even address the points.

>> No.41720435

>>41719853
Just the way things are. Its their thread after all.

>> No.41720490

>>41720293
Ignore the pink man, please he's going through a phase

>> No.41720580

>>41720293
Not him, it's just really clear. You're not making an invalid point but it's really hard to take you seriously when you're this irrationally angry

>> No.41720668

>>41720580
Nta, but leave the emotions aside. The points are valid, so lets actually address them.

>> No.41720807

>>41719501
>this was rather apparent when we all designed and agreed to the concept of chuubanite
pg, most peoople in this project as of right noow weren't around when chuubanite was designed and agreed upon and those are the people that for the most ignore it compeltly because the way it is setup is quite frankly not friendly foor peopel to really use

>> No.41720994

>>41720807
I think it is pretty friendly to use, have u read the chuubanite doc?

>> No.41721284

>>41720994
I think it's more that many threads just don't have a coherent enough image to have a concept to work off (compared with fetish threads and threads fore individual vtubers with flavorful lore)

>> No.41721534

>>41721284
General threads are just as hard, the system is weighted heavily to individual threads overall. Meat is an exception if anything.

>> No.41721653

>>41719202
>The point is basic: chuubanite applications in my honest opinion are designed specifically for /meat/ to use in ways that no one else can.
Can't this be substituted with most threads or generals to the same effect? /meat/ is a thread based around ryona and abuse which is a pretty vauge and obscure concept that is very general, the reason /meat/ has had so many implications with their chuubanite is solely because it's been focusedon the most in that regards, /ag/ had a discussion where it could potentially create a fucking atom bomb due to some energy mass shit and it's a thread about fattening and weight gain.
Generals, specifically fetish gens with concepts that stretch past the vtubing sphere are going to have more diverse and varied use than those located within it but even still, I think this is the only real example of the chuubanite doc really being optimized towards meat, I don't see any other instance in the doc that specifically benefits them in a way that others don't share in.

>> No.41721875

I'm really doubting that 774 is just a bunch of inages of random things or random chuubas. It's an image dump sure but is it just pics of Thomas the Tank Engine or is it pics of a specific chuuba group?

>> No.41722008

>>41721875
anon what do you think? Its for 774, a popular JP company?

>> No.41722147

>>41722008
Kay well then their chuubanite is based off the idols and their qualities. Why the hell does it keep getting used here in this context when it's very clear that its oriented around chuubas like any other thread?

>> No.41724710

>>41698377
i have more time to give a formal response to this, now.
>The idea of making your own afterlife would downplay the importance of our chuubas since theyre the ones who decide what will happen to their followers.
someone in the thread asked about whether or not it was possible to have an afterlife in this setting, i remember telling them that concepts of people would persist in the conceptual realm as long as the memory of them was still around, but that i didn't know of a way to have a conscious afterlife that people could actually experience after they died at the time, and then i came up with a way to allow an afterlife to be possible in this setting. normally, an afterlife would be based on which chuuba you believe in, but the conceptual realm can be molded via artificial concepts, and since an afterlife is possible with the default components of our system, it stands to reason that said afterlife can be subject to the other logical conclusions of our systems, including artificial afterlives. ie, if an afterlife is possible, a personalized afterlife is possible, but artificial concepts require artificial descriptions, meaning they will only last as long as the glyphs that define them into reality, so no artificial afterlife can be eternal by the axiom that they are artificial, meanwhile, natural concepts such as those formed by chuubas can only be destroyed if the concept itself is destroyed. that was what i was trying to get at. i haven't slept well in days, so sorry if i was (am) not very good at articulating that.
the whole point was to show how it was possible, almost all of the ideas i came up with regarding the natural application of chuubanite where i used /meat/ as an example had some explicit mention of how it would only be possible in the future, in this case, i mentioned it, but it was less explicit, so i apologize for that.
>>41694287
>this of course requires that they know how to actually resurrect themselves, and any degree of failure means they will be sentenced to live the rest of their afterlife in that hell scape.
first point was that it required knowledge of how to prevent death, and the second showed that literally any degree of failure would have immense consequences. combined, it likely wouldn't even be tested until we have a fair amount of certainty that we can resolve most fatal conditions, meaning this wont be possible until some time well after our current era.
>>41702463
everything in the conceptual realm is a concept. souls do not exist as entities, they exist as concepts, though they might be better described as memories, or former conceptual structures. in the conceptual realm, concepts form naturally with absolutely no requirement for the expenditure of any power source. you seem to be under the impression that i am suggesting that we use chuubanite the substance to create a physical realm to send the physical (metaphysical?) soul into a physical body that is capable of experiencing pain, where all of this actually exists, and only exists because of the chuubanite, thus requiring literally enough energy to create a pocket within space and time. artificial glyphs act as a dictionary of objects, they add additional forces to the natural interactions within the conceptual realm in order to encourage and maintain the formation of a concept. every artificial concept could just as easily be natural if it weren't for the fact that those concepts are not naturally correlated.
creating the concept of an afterlife, and connecting it with the concept of a person is not creating an actual afterlife, more like imagining a person being in an imaginary setting. it's an illusion of the senses, which requires far less energy, to the point where it's practically free as long as you can maintain the definitions that connect two concepts to each other. defining the concept of consciousness would be far more tricky, hence another reason why it would likely require a catalognaut who can communicate with the conceptual realm through the catalog more freely, but beyond that, you're expending about as much energy in creating the thing as you would spend fantasizing about some hypothetical place. in the conceptual realm, concepts are real things, but you don't need to spend energy creating the concept, it already exists, you just need to strengthen the connection between that concept and another to give their union more weight. keep in mind, the conceptual realm is part of the *everything* concept, every iteration of any concept that could possibly be conceived is already in existence somewhere, just not properly backed up to be considered a real connection.

>> No.41724775

>>41703042
>I don't see ressurection, as in True Ressurection, as being a possibility in this world
by resurrection, i mean literally bringing someone from a state of being "officially" dead to a state of being "officially alive. if your heart isn't beating, and you shock yourself with a defibulator, that is resurrection by this definition. i get being concerned about it being possible at this timeperiod, but thinking it shouldn't be possible at all indicates a failure in communication, else a severe lack of imagination. given >>41713346 is true, i suppose it could be either, but my money is on the former.
>>41714295
>not having properly read your lore at all and that tells them they should do their reps.
desu, and i don't mean to be offensive, but since this is the ord that has been going around in regards to this, i must admit that i do kind of view your response to what i said as being that of a "jackass", again, no offense. while it's true that i have said before that it is important to consider previous lore before involving others, doing your reps was only one suggestion i made. my primary suggestion in all instances involving other factions was to ask them before you wrote about them. as in "if you are going to write about someone, either collaborate with them, or at the very least do your reps". i don't recall a single instance where all i said was that they should do their reps. this criticism doesn't apply when one side has already done their reps, and can therefore advise you on how to properly interact with them. this is relevant because the other guy said it is impossible to write with (collaborate with) /meat/ because we have so much lore, but none of that lore is necessary for you to know as long as you are willing to actually collaborate. if you don't want to collaborate, then ya, do your reps, but it would be unreasonable to expect everyone to do that, which is why nobody expects people to have to unless they choose to take on that burden of their own volition.
>>41718657
if their graduation means the destruction of their concept, then any child-concepts based on them will naturally be disassociated as well, hence why i said
>an afterlife wouldn't be natural, but could be granted by the default conditions of a given concept, but likely would not be eternal, depending on the nature of the concept itself.
>>41719202
no thread is just an image-posting thread, those images have a topic at hand, the core concept that defines the thread is the origin of the chuubanite's energy. all threads can have chuubanite, all threads are allowed to define their chuubanite abilities based on their interpretations of the core concepts of their threads, chuubanite is adaptable enough to offer any interaction to any thread, provided they take the time to work out how it works and how it relates to their thread. if any given thread does not benefit from chuubanite at any given time, it is wholefully a result of their decision not to benefit from chuubanite. i have repeatedly encouraged others to make use of this system, some do, but none as much as my thread, given the fact that that is the thread i represent. i have no jurisdiction over other threads unless they will take my suggestions, and many have, including retro, and he has benefited from it, along with the rest of the thread that chooses to make use of this system. first you guys blame me for trying to get everyone to use the magic system when they don't want to, now you blame me for not forcing everyone to use the magic system. make up your minds, please. is chuubanite a choice, or does /meat/ benefit too much from the system. it shouldn't matter if we were able to improve ourselves through chuubanite if we worked for it, this is like saying successful businesses are an affront to justice, and that everyone should therefore be poor.
>>41720807
that wasn't me, but whenever i say that people are arguing against canon to make things unreasonably more accessible to hypothetical future anons who are supposedly too lazy to bother collaborating with us, at the expense of those who have collaborated, and existed in the thread long enough to be able to create, i am told that nobody actually makes this argument. this isn't an argument, it's a fallacious failure of a virtue that deserves, whole heartedly, to be disregarded and spat on. if newfags refuse to collaborate and respect canon, we should not punish oldfags for the incoherent ideal of equality, it is not, nor will it ever be, an ideal worth pursuing. do not deny that you are arguing in favor of limiting real anons who exist in this thread right now under the false pretense that it somehow limits future anons who do not exist in this thread from being able to collaborate with us. cease this argument, it is a waste of time, and i am beyond tired of hearing it's likeness pollute the integrity and value of these threads. it is an abomination of reason, i will not stand for it.

>> No.41724831

>>41721284
>>41721534
both are easy with the right mindset, i just can't seem to communicate it to you guys. i have offered to help people figure out that mindset, but nobody bothers to stick around or answer my questions.
>>41721653
the only reason it is optimized towards /meat/ is because /meat/ is the only thread who's culture i understand in enough detail to create such a complicated system around. i ask people to describe their threads, and they never know the right framework to view it in. it's always such a limited perspective that i have nothing to work off of, but if they just knew the right way to interpret it, there are by necessity an abundance of methods they could pick from in order to discover the central concept because all roads lead to that concept. it's just more accurate the more you are able to describe it. even threads with nothing but images posted all the time, with no interpersonal interaction what so ever, have a core concept based on which images the thread decides to post, so long as those images have a topic they revolve around, there is thread culture, which can lead us to the core concept.

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what is the green gods' holy fuck did I miss

>> No.41725007

their silence is deafening

>> No.41725195

>>41724989
a wednesday. they call me paragraphs for a reason.

>> No.41725407

>>41724775
defibrillator. dumbass.

>> No.41725731

>>41724775
Please do not make an argument at the end that just emphasizes old vs new. The same argument about not respecting canon (or better yet them as people) regarding how newfags get treated here as if they arent “real”. This isnt about those in the hypothetical future but the current present existence.

>> No.41726059

>>41724710
So tell me if I'm on the right track, you're taking the concept of a person (catalognaut) and using complex glyphs or Hyper Glyphs in order to strengthen the ever present connectivity of the conceptual realm between that catalognaut and the concept of hell (conceptual construct) in order to build magic quanta enough to enforce a final will/revival onto the physical realm?
If I'm correct here, I think that'd probably inherently change the concept of the catalognaut in question, either in the process or once they're done wouldn't it? Even a meat head has to bend to the undiluted concept of suffering
>>41725407
He said it rite.

>> No.41726150

>>41725731
There's literally no reason that someone should have to respect anyone else as a person here. That's silly.

>> No.41727101

>>41725731
>cease this argument, it is a waste of time, and i am beyond tired of hearing it's likeness pollute the integrity and value of these threads. it is an abomination of reason, i will not stand for it.
i don't want to bring up old timeloops, but this baseless, reasonless, thoughtless, and utterly valueless argument keeps being brought up, and no matter how often i try to explain why it shouldn't continue, it keeps getting made. i am beyond tired of hearing it, i don't get why it's so difficult to understand how utterly irredeemable this line of reasoning is. it holds no value and it should cease to exist, yet somehow, defying all logic, people still treat it as though it is even capable of being a worthwhile argument, or literally anything else besides a terrible, self-defeating societal disease.
>regarding how newfags get treated here as if they arent “real”.
i also don't get how this point could be so easy to misinterpret. it's one of those instances where i explicitly say something in clear english and have people interpret something that isn't even different enough from what i actually said to be linked through opposites, like black and white. what kind of insult is "you don't even exist" and do you honestly think i would stoop to such lows? no, i am saying the hypothetical future anon, who only exists in the future, is not present in the now, and is therefore imaginary. it's like taking offense to something because you could imagine someone else taking offense to it, but literally everything can be taken as offensive because offense is taken, not given, and so you'll end up stifling the opportunities of the people who actually, physically exist, and are present in the now. i'm saying the future isn't real, all that's real is now.
>>41726059
>in order to build magic quanta enough to enforce a final will/revival onto the physical realm?
what? no. i'm saying you could construct the concept of an afterlife within the conceptual realm by defining it's parameters, create conditions that change the way chuubanite interacts with the world by altering the definition of it's core concepts, and use chuubanite to revive someone, and that all of these separate, individual applications of chuubanite can be combined to enable someone to create a system similar to nen, including post-mortem nen. i'm replicating a separate magic system within my own, proving that this magic system is adaptable enough to enable people to do even that. it's a test in the versatility of the chuubanite system, i'm just using post-mortem nen as an example.
>Even a meat head has to bend to the undiluted concept of suffering
catalognauts are supposed to be, at least in part, physical manifestations of a concept which they embody, if i am not mistaken. also, we've already discussed this, transubstantiations don't cease to be transubstantiations if they change at all, so long as the change occurred after the connection was formed. the connection strengthens the existing ties, else they break, so if you represent a concept, you are influenced by that concept, and that concept is influenced by you. rather, it would be more accurate to describe the concept and you as becoming the same concept. a /meat/head would bend to the undiluted concept of suffering, just as the undiluted concept of suffering would bend to itself. that's actually part of the nature of suffering, if you recall any of my explanations of it from back when i was describing the life cycle and the deeper meanings behind it. it doesn't matter that the catalognaut changes, only that the way they change would be the same as how the concept itself would change, because if the catalognaut is a transubstantiation, the catalog is the concept, and the concept is the catalognaut. they become the same entity.

>> No.41727789

>>41726059
also, i looked it up, i didn't say it right. also, that was me.

>> No.41728798

>>41727101
>create conditions that change the way chuubanite interacts with the world by altering the definition of it's core concepts, and use chuubanite to revive someone
In the context of revival, how would the core concepts change as an example of what it would be like?
>>41727789
Wait since when were there two ll's in defribulator? I like it better with a u. I'm keeping it this way

>> No.41729347

>>41728798
>defribulator
You're actually trolling

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>>41725195
have a collabed with you in the distant past?

>> No.41730649

>>41728798
i said those were separate interactions. it's not in the context of revival, it's in the context of adding conditions to the core concept that enable it to be adaptable to environments. death can be a condition, and a certain procedure will be the result. if said procedure is naturally capable of reviving the individual (ie, bungee-gum restarting someone's heart when they die of heart-failure in hxh, not some magical revival from out of nowhere.) the resulting effect will be revival. it's not as though i am saying it would revive someone from literally any condition, in fact, i explicitly stated that you would have to know exactly how you would die, and take measures to specifically counter that form of death, and that if you were even slightly wrong in your estimation or application of said procedure, you'd be worse than dead.
the conditions are like taking an existing word, and adding a new context to view it from. certain words might not initially refer to certain ideas, but over time become synonymous with a new word that shares in some traits, but were not similar enough to be considered the same word until the definitions broadened to include each other. think about code words, or how the same sentence can change under different contexts and conditions, such as tones, or whether or not the situation calls for it. basically, this allows us to add artificial child concepts to existing concepts, it shouldn't have received the backlash it did if not for the fact that i worded it poorly, and that, being a /meat/head, i used /meat/ as the example, because what else would i use?
>>41729616
are you the first sapling? i think i recall talking to you some time after you came, you got annoyed at the fact that i wrote walls of text, but i gave you a few suggestions of how you could implement a few of your ideas regarding the evolution and diversification of your population. you took some of them, but didn't take others, and i somewhat found it annoying that some of the things you ended up doing didn't work well with the system we had at the time, but i think i recall discussing modifications to the system that would make your ideas make more sense without throwing the rest of the lore into conflict. i would have preferred it if you cooperated a bit more at the initial stages, though, but everything worked out in the end, and i hold no ill will towards you or anything. pretty sure once i started breaking up my comments a bit more, you started being more willing to cooperate, so i guess that worked out, too, somewhat. imagine if it turns out you weren't that sapling, and were someone else instead, lol.

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>>41730649
Oh NOW I remember, paragraphs anon... you had an allergy to your shift and enter key, and we did have a bout about it and something you suggested in /uuu/ but I dont remember what it was...
Can't say I agree with your style any more than I used to, but its fair to see youre doing well I guess

>> No.41731321

>>41731080
>something you suggested in /uuu/
i don't recall going over there, but whatever. i modified my way of typing specifically because you didn't like it back then. if it makes no difference, i can assure you it would be easier and more convenient for me to go back to the old way.

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>>41731321
>it would be easier and more convenient for me
oh yeah, that attitude for sure rings a bell
been a while anon, hope youve been enjoying the board

>> No.41734168

>>41733322
i've been on the board from almost the start, so ya, unfortunately it's easy for my presence to cause timeloops due to misunderstandings, see above, so i sometimes refrain from talking, but i guess that goes back and forth every now and then. anyways, hope you enjoy the thread as well. it's nice to see you back, and it would be fun to have another person to involve when everything goes to shit because of a handful of obsessive schizos and other such dumbasses.

>> No.41734351

You know how when you sit down in front of a screen and think you have everything planned out for the draft. And then you draw a complete blank on how to do it? Yeah that happened. Finding out that a friend's grandfather died didn't help either. I'm debating if I want to sleep on this or force myself through it. I'm used to making tabletop maps in feet not meters. Also while I thought I had a good idea for an Age of Exploration bakery maybe I should do more research.

There's also a minor detail on whether or not I should put the ovens in the north wall of the bakery or not due to strong cold north winds. Maybe the east or west walls can handle the ovens and not risk warping between extreme heat and cold. Also the location of the bakery will be on the outskirts of town due to fire risk and lower property value. So I doubt there will be many buildings to block the cold mountain winds.

Once I figure out the entrance and ovens everywhere else should fall into place.

>> No.41737850

bump

>> No.41740319

bump

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41740437

Its not final. But its an idea to start with nonetheless.

>> No.41741358

>>41740437
I ran into some complications with the original idea for my design. First is having a deticated rising room that has its own temperature. Second is the north wind. So ovens had to be moved south. Also cold storage is in debate whether or not its a separate building or not. I still need to organize where to put rooms and tables. Not to mention I still need a cooking stove. The black square is a support pillar for the second floor.

>> No.41742685

bump

>> No.41743883

Damn the board's fast tonight. I know about Tsunderia.

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https://rentry.org/palkyries
It doesn’t really turn out the way I envisioned but here’s what I have so far

>> No.41745347

>10

>> No.41745847

>>41745347
Catalog is nuckin' futz right now.

>> No.41747147

>10 pages in 25 minutes

>> No.41747223

>>41744202
>TFW no Palkyrie mom to carry you on her back.
I started to design a bakery. I'm just laying out floor plans before I hand draw the final draft.

>> No.41748312

bump, I hate /vt/ sometimes

>> No.41748519

>>41748312
likewise, friend. likewise.

>> No.41749818

bump

>> No.41750491

I knew this thread would be affected the most. Bump.

>> No.41752478

bump

>> No.41754145

Insomnia bump. Blast fish sea monkeys.

>> No.41754180

Grrr Bratty Paragraphs anon... needs correction...

>> No.41755995

Going to redo the bakery floor plan. The clockwork approach cannot work due to oven and cold storage placements. And I'm still lacking a range. If there was a way to make the rising room on the north wall then things would be different.

>> No.41756272

So when Lisa and Amiya join phase, can we have their land finally

>> No.41757240

>>41636203
Umm, we were supposed to update this!
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-bylaws
and this
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-rep-trips
to this:
https://rentry.org/m7rhg


THIS WASN'T ANCHORED!!!!
https://rentry.org/o8t9c

The Changes
Change the wording of By-Law 4.2 from (Y/N/A):
Previous Wording: "Link to a post containing a rentry link pertaining to lore or story of the thread one is voting for, with the rentry edited to verify the poster to be authentic."
New Wording: "Voting Rentry that needs to be verified with story or lore doc the first time it is used to verify the poster to be authentic. Voting Rentries will be placed in the Trip Verification Rentry once Verified."

NEW BYLAW:
"There is no vote for a nation wishing to use their old borders if they were turned into provinces, assuming the land is available."

Thus, these belong in the trip rep rentry:
/voms/: https://rentry.org/Voms-VD
/ehe~/:https://rentry.org/ehe-vote
/moon/:https://rentry.org/moon-vote
/774/:https://rentry.org/774-vote
/luna/:https://rentry.org/yybyx
/wg/:https://rentry.org/wgballot

>> No.41757376

>>41756272
Yes.

>> No.41757421
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41757421

To any others that have done the rentry method not listed. Please "verify" one piece of lore and your voting doc, and then attach it to the post above so we can put them in the trip rep file.

Example from /voms/ used last time
>https://rentry.org/Artavashahr.. (Lore updated)
>https://rentry.org/Voms-VD (Voting Document)

Thank you.

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>>41757421
Not that post above, this one fyi.
>>41757240

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>>41757445
>>41757240
Can i post my own despite not voting??
https://rentry.org/Ruminanity
https://rentry.org/Rumina-Voting-Record

>> No.41758214

>>41758106
You still need to put the link in the archived lore so people are sure it is you. And yeah it should still be archived under thread tripcode rentry even if you haven't used it yet.

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>>41758214
Done!! How long must i keep it there?

>> No.41758724

>>41758629
I'm the one who maintains the tripcode doc so yeah it's in. You only need to update it if you wish to change your main voting method or want to use a different link. So you can remove it now.

>> No.41758895

>>41758724
Okey, thanks!

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41759673

COMING SOON TO YOUR THREAD! THE MAIN EVENT WHICH YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR!

Starting this Friday the 27th at 4pm EST before the gates close on this SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY the 29th at 3pm EST, there shall be a vote WHICH shall DECIDE THE FATE OF THIS THREAD.

The current acts include:

1. The placement of /jidf/ (>>41500127 for reasons)
2. The placement of /wvt/ (>>41695574 for reasons)
3. The placement of /pkg/ (>>41695574 for reasons)

AND DO NOT MISS THE FINAL ACT that WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING: VOTING REFORM! https://rentry.org/39iwaf


Do not WAIT, do not HESTITATE. For this GRAND EVENT is only for a limited time only! BE THERE OR BE SQUARE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XODoCxv9Itg

Notice: All proposals must be submitted by Friday at 12 pm EST for appropriate discussion, and the right to postpone a proposal is at the discretion of this event's organizer. All wording must be verified by Friday at 3pm EST.

You have the right to vote Aye, Nay, Abstain, or not cast a ballot (Blank)

Aye means you agree with the proposal.
Nay means you disagree with the proposal.
Abstain means you wish the proposal to have more time and refinement, thus waiting for another voting session.
Not casting a ballot means that you do not feel comfortable voting for the proposal in any measure or that it is beyond your own concern.

Refunds, late proposals, and late ballots will not be accepted. All rights are reserved to Mooner Entertainment Inc.

>> No.41761022

bump

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>>41744202
>It doesn’t really turn out the way I envisioned
>its fucking amazing still
I really hope you have someone suck you off while you do all this and if not then I volunteer. You honestly deserve it

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>>41744202
Very nice!!! Impressive as usual.
>>41759673
I really suggest waiting for voting reform, this has not be discussed enough and there was a point a thread or two ago that hasn't been addressed.

>> No.41766174

bump

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