Alright then I actually went and checked back on streams, the izakaya stream happened 15days ago, the memory Collab happened 11 days ago, shiny spicy monhun happened 20 days ago on Axel's channel and 19 days ago on Altare's. Magni is collabing with Altare while practically saying Vesper he is his soulmate. Both Axel and Magni were praising Altare in the same membership stream as the ones that keep being brought up. A question to you and >>41638173 over here, if you aren't the same person, how does Vesper avoiding Altare (as you believe) automatically make Altare the bad person here? Why is him ghosting Axel, who he considers his younger self, again Altare's fault? They might have a fight who knows, and I realize what thread I'm on but I genuinely don't get it. They both have anger issues, Altare has been open about it and Vesper admitted it on stream too, and you might be right on your intuition or whatever, but I genuinely ask, why are you blaming it all on Altare, again? I was expecting a comfy nowa thread, and it felt like it was going to go that way after the first few threads but I have to say, why are we going through the just-blame-Altare loop again? This is like the just-blame-tempus loop /#/ goes through all the time and it's funny in a way.