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>> No.41398480

>>41398259
If other people are doing it, and it’s not against the rules, why wouldn’t you?

>> No.41398508
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>> No.41398511

>>41398259
>filian

>> No.41398614

>>41398259
did she put it on hers or The First Take's channel?

>> No.41398731

Suishill

>> No.41398842

>>41398259
It's called tag scraping, kinda scummy but there is no rule against it and everybody else is using it so...

>> No.41398926

>>41398480
Kike-like thought process

>> No.41398996

Tags do far less for you these days than your title and likes.

>> No.41399107

It's on First Take's channel though so I doubt Suisei was the one who set the tags.

>> No.41399158

>>41398926
The poor thought process.

>> No.41399313

>>41398926
Yeah and kikes rule the world, what’s your point

>> No.41399323

>>41398996
Well the video showed up on my feed despite the only tags relevant to me in the pic are 結束バンド and プロセカ(also VTuber I guess but I literally don't watch Holo and Niji), so yeah it's working well, really well in fact.

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>>41398259
> tiny desk

>> No.41399972

>>41398259
metatags are useless because people abused them in the past. hashtag is more relevant

>> No.41400053

>>41399428
There's a thing called "Tiny Desk Concerts." Your mom listens to it.

>> No.41400075

>>41398259
>filian

lmao

>> No.41405206
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>>41398480
It IS against the rules.
We should report that shit for trying to leech off Filian's viral videos and hopefully get it shadow banned.

>> No.41405296

Holos doing underhanded leeching again. They already did it with Nijisanji tags long ago. No shame.

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>>41398259
>Filian
HOLY FUCK IT'S REAL
This is so fucking low and leecherous for a professional production

>> No.41405951

>>41398259
>fillian
w-what the fuck?

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>>41398259
WTF
This is Salome's name tag

>> No.41407084

Isn't this the thing Uto got in shit for?

>> No.41407151

>>41405206
>filiankek thinks he can win against big corp
lmao

>> No.41407182

Not her channel
Seethe harder Nijibugs

>> No.41407269

tags don't do anything. cover management is retarded thinking they can spam tags like this and make any difference.

>> No.41407319

>>41407269
this wasn't Cover, it was The First Take (Sony)

>> No.41407345

>>41407319
japanese companies are all retarded

>> No.41407454

>kessoku band
based

>> No.41407460

>>41405296
You got the company names flipped around anon.

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>>41407151
You can't stop me Suikek

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Even Salome...

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lmao

>> No.41407618

>>41398259
those were put there by The ffirst take channel tho, not suisei

>> No.41407622

>>41398259
based d4dj chads we IN!

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>>41398259
>Two Ame.
What?

>> No.41407663

>>41407507
so you're that underage filiankek again...

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>>41407460
Nice try Holonigger

>> No.41408250

>>41407460
How new? Hololive literally started by abusing Niji tags just to attract new viewers.

>> No.41408665

>>41408250
Cover is older than Ichikara. The first Holos are older than the first Nijis.

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>>41407663
Not my problem

>> No.41408906

>>41408250
is that why they were stuck in 2 views? Thank God they cut ties with them

>> No.41409225

No Kiara RUMAO
Even Kobo is there

>> No.41409451

>>41408843
not like this holobros one underage kid reported our 2mil views video what do we gonna do?

>> No.41409526

This is the saddest attemp from nijisister to discredit suisei, even when suisei herself likes nijisanji... can they go any lower?

>> No.41410008

>>41408843
Hoshimashis... It's over.

>> No.41410183

>>41409526
Rent free

>> No.41410321

>>41409225
They want people to watch it.

>> No.41410714

>>41405206
White ame shown those reports does jackshit roru
>>41407084
Yup, later she removed those tags but it already served its purposes so she won big without losing any. She shown that working smart beats working honest everytime
Surprised how indies and small corpos almost never does this then complains about low numbers

>> No.41411696

>>41410714
>Surprised how indies and small corpos almost never does this then complains about low numbers
because our vtubers are honest unlike those greedy corps ones

>> No.41412218

I had a gander at some of the tagging on various videos and it's kind of a mixed bag. Older HoloJP seem to take tagging very serious adding every holomem. HoloX not so much and inconsistent. Myth all has super consistent but sparse tagging. Council is mixed, Mumei tags like JP does, Bae doesn't tag at all. Kobo likewise nothing. My guess is it's kind of by generation of management, and they stick with what they were taught at the start.
First Take doesn't typically tag a lot but varies by artist, for example Claris tagged all the anime they did songs for, but LiSA had zero tags.
Niji seems to be individual though some waves got managed. For example the newest JP wave is individual and Roco even tagged that she was nervous, Lazulight seems to be individual, but xSoleil was told how to tag as a group. Check Salome's debut for an interesting tag.

>> No.41412271

This shit is literally auto generated based on the original "hash tags" and doesn't actually impact performance anymore. SEO is an entirely different field than it was in 2015

>> No.41412502

>>41410714
>>41411696
Some kawaii girls literally put other company names and Vtuber name in their description box to serve as pseudo tags. Just look at Nene Amano's description box. She is inspired by HOLOLIVE and NIJISANJI and even VSHOJO!

>> No.41413107

>>41412271
Holocope

>> No.41413144

>>41408665
>The first Holos are older than the first Nijis.
No lmao. There was no Hololive when Sora came around. The format of Sora and later Roboco came from the early days of four heavenly kings. The true Hololive 1st gen that utilized the 2D streaming format debuted AFTER Nijisanji 2nd gen.

>> No.41413461

>>41409526
>niji
>niji
>niji
jfc, we get these schizos aswell. Did it ever occur to you that catalogschizos hate almost all vtubers?

>> No.41413829

>>41413144
cope

>> No.41414012

>>41413144
>Sora is the first Holo
>Sora existed before Niji
>The first Holo didn’t exist before Niji
Anon please

>> No.41414109

>>41398259
Why nijikek crying because suisei got featured on sony channel? Shouldn't they be bowing to her since she raise the tide for all vtuber, even mousey praise her.

>> No.41414546

>>41414109
Nijisanji is the most popular and culturally important VTuber group in Japan and, indeed, in the entire World, therefore it's only natural a Nijisanji member is the first to appear on THE FIRST T-ACK

>> No.41414574

>>41414012
I recognize this particular nijifaggot and he's been doing this for years. He lives in shitpost threads in the catalog now because he's afraid of any thread faster than that. He's posted that Aqua image and a few others fairly often. Since there's like 8 threads up of the same topic (wonder why), you can even spot him jumping between them if you're perceptive enough.

>> No.41415317

>>41407454
It's read as wagakki band

>> No.41417218

>>41398996
I got that video recommends to me eventhough I haven't get any hololive's video suggest to me for years. Already blocked it

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>>41408665
aiyeee
we dindu nuffin, it's the nijin*gger

>> No.41417462

>>41417367
Aqua played this game? Holy fucking based

>> No.41417528

>>41414109
Comeback when you sing on NHK's kohaku, The First Take is a shill channel for whoever the corpos trying to sell

>> No.41417833

>>41417528
nijicope

>> No.41418101

>>41399428
Suichan on tiny desk concert would be nuts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrR_gm6RqCo

>> No.41418180

>>41417528
>>41417833
^

>> No.41418203

Remember when Uto get shittted on by Holobronies?
Now they are trying to brush it off as nothing burgger kek

>> No.41418327

>>41418203
So true esl-sama

>> No.41418368

>>41417462
Pretty much every vtuber did back then, it was one of the old faithful go-to's for rage streams.

>> No.41418378

>>41414012
>Sora is the first Holo
Then why she was Gen 0 instead of Gen 1? Retarded.
Hololive as an agency came after Nijisanji, how fucking newfag do you have to be to deny this?
>>41414574
>le one guy
Kek, here's my (you) for your hilarious internet detective skill

>> No.41419341

>>41418378
>Then why she was Gen 0 instead of Gen 1?
nta but ?? you think the first have to be on gen 1 or what ? what retarded logic is this ?
>ackshually they are not proper agency yet
might as well say that Hololive only exist on 2019 because they only officially announce it on that year, Sora is the first Hololive, her debut is Hololive debut that's why they already celebrate their 5th year anniv alongside with Sora's while Niji 5th anniv later this feb, so Hololive already celebrate their 5th year anniv means they are older than Nijisanji, anything else is just a cope

>> No.41419732

>>41419341
1>0
I rest my case holybrony >:)

>> No.41420241

>>41419341
>why they already celebrate their 5th year anniv alongside with Sora
Just like that leech shoto celebrated his anniversary in December alongside Luxiem even though his real debut date was in July. Does this make him the real Luxiem?
>you think the first have to be on gen 1 or what
Gen 0 means it was a subsequent award instead of the supposed start of the agency. Everybody knows that without Mito popularizing the 2D streaming scheme, Cover wouldn't join the competition by debuting Gen 1. Saying oh Hololive is older than Nijisanji so it was Nijisanji who leeching from Hololive is just delusional.

>> No.41420398

>>41419732
what tf are you even talking about ? the fact that you think you have to be in gen 1 to be the first or even have to be in gen is retarded logic in the first place, that's not how you determine who is the first, Sora is Hololive and she debuted first, her anniv is Hololive anniv and Sora is older than any Niji so Hololive is older than Niji, it's that simple, you can cope all you want but it sadly it won't change the fact

>> No.41420465

Hololive did it, hololive did it!

>> No.41420534

>>41420398
>replying to retarded nijinigger's trollpost
you can stop now

>> No.41420724

>>41417218
Yeah but it's the first take channel?not to mention the insane amount of likes it has with surging views many unrelated people are probably getting it on the recommended so you who watches vtubers getting it isn't far-fetched

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>>41419732
>>41420398
Just stop talking to bad faith nijibrony.

>> No.41420756

>>41398259
Ame is on there twice.
I can't believe the japs have such good taste they recognize her vsinger prowess

>> No.41420803

>>41407539
>notices coco
>doesn't notice aloe

>> No.41420862

>>41420756
Ame on First Take confirmed?!

>> No.41420876 [DELETED] 

>>41398259
<filian
we've made it to the big leagues snakers

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>>41418203
>by Holobronies

>> No.41421092

>>41420241
>real debut date
who the fuck are you decide what debut date is real ? Sora is the first Hololive talent her debut date is Hololive debut date
>Everybody knows that without Mito popularizing the 2D streaming scheme, Cover wouldn't join the competition by debuting Gen 1
nice headcanon the moment they planning Roboco debut means they already try to expand and Roboco is around the time of Niji 1st wave debut
>Saying oh Hololive is older than Nijisanji so it was Nijisanji who leeching from Hololive is just delusional.
never said anything about leeching but Hololive is indeed older than Nijisanji

>> No.41421103

Holy shit lolicons we got our work cut out for us. Fresh of Cake Chan's burial for being an anti lolicon faggot, we will now cancel this video for misusing the filian tag. GO FORTH!

>> No.41421176

>>41421103
i'm pretty glad i don't get any of the words you just said, thanks

>> No.41421224

>>41421176
Get filtered

>> No.41422240

>>41421092
>Roboco is around the time of Niji 1st wave debut
Nah. Nijisanji's 1st wave debuted in 2018.01, 2nd wave debuted in 2018.03. Roboco test streamed once in 2018.03, and she uploaded her formal introduction video in 2018.04. She was always 3D btw.
The fact that you think something as common knowledge as Mito popularized the whole 2D streaming scheme is headcanon just showed how newfag you are. .
>never said anything about leeching but Hololive is indeed older than Nijisanji
The "streaming in 2D" part of Hololive is younger, if you really want a middle ground in this argument.

>> No.41423723

>>41422240
>Nah. Nijisanji's 1st wave debuted in 2018.01, 2nd wave debuted in 2018.03. Roboco test streamed once in 2018.03, and she uploaded her formal introduction video in 2018.04. She was always 3D btw.
The fact that you think something as common knowledge as Mito popularized the whole 2D streaming scheme is headcanon just showed how newfag you are. .
just another retarded cope, along that timeline there is no way they even heard about Niji first wave because they open audition for Roboco and her channel also created earlier than her first debut, and using 2d is just as simple as a move to reduce the budget, Niji just happen to be the first one using it, 2d or 3d model have nothing to do with content, and Niji format content is streaming which not only is not alien concept they also not even the first vtuber doing a stream since even Sora streaming since the beginning, the only one trying to copy is Niji nowadays with them trying to focus more on music, literally changing direction according to their member themselves

>> No.41423842

holobronies btfo

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>>41408843
Since reporting is cool now, apparently.

>> No.41424332

>>41398996
Then why do it

>> No.41424382

>>41408002
Saved

>> No.41424609

>he thinks youtube tags matter in 2023

>> No.41424712

>>41418378
Inb4 just pretending to be retarded

>> No.41425280

>>41423723
>along that timeline there is no way they even heard about Niji first wave
Now, this is what should be called headcanon.
>and using 2d is just as simple as a move to reduce the budget
lmao. Have you ever seen the fucking backlash when Nijisanji started? The fucking standard of that time is 3D.
Also, the word I used was always "popularized", can't you read? Nobody said that Nijisanji invented the whole thing, but Mito proved that it could succeed. Mito got 100k around the same time as Sora despite the latter having already been active for half a year, and Sora only surpassed Mito after the boom of western popularity in 2020.
>the only one trying to copy is Niji nowadays with them trying to focus more on music, literally changing direction according to their member themselves
Another headcanon bullshit. They had done concerts all the way back to 2018 and 2019. Even in that clip that you probably refer to, Gundo literally said they can still decide whether they want it or not. Also, does Hololive invent music or do you seriously think Hololive is music-focused?

>> No.41425329

>>41424332
ask first take channel

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>nijiwagies seething because they don't know how modern SEO works

>> No.41425616

>>41413107
You mean Sony cope, since First Take is owned by Sony so it is just the usual Sony dickriding

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>>41405206
>we
LMAO look at this seething nijisister that it was Suisei and not one of her male whores to appear on first take!!!
keep seething retarded bitch! ahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha

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Why does everyone here larp as a backstabbing hypocritical scumbag with no morals or self-respect? What happened to the christmas miracle, and celebrating how Sora got successful through hard work alone?

>> No.41426412

>>41425280
>Now, this is what should be called headcanon
holy retard, do you think Niji exploded that make Cover heard about them instantly when they debuted so they immediately launch a "counter measure" by instantly open audition and create Roboco channel in a month, how delusional you can be ?
>Have you ever seen the fucking backlash when Nijisanji started? The fucking standard of that time is 3D
some people don't like 2d model have nothing to do with a business decision that totally makes sense in order to save budget, that "backlash" is nothing more than anon seething on this board or 5ch, you try to paint it as if it would make people scared using 2d model holy shit you're so retarded
>Another headcanon bullshit. They had done concerts all the way back to 2018 and 2019. Even in that clip that you probably refer to, Gundo literally said they can still decide whether they want it or not. Also, does Hololive invent music or do you seriously think Hololive is music-focused?
in what way i'm saying Hololive invented Music ?, but Niji does changing direction based on their members words themselves, they unironically force them or not is irrelevant the point is they changing their direction so why they do that ? simply because try to follow the better format and yes Hololive is more music focused more than Niji because they follow Sora's format

>> No.41426432

>>41398259
It's fake.
Just like the "who views this profile the most?" stats.
The website just makes it up based on similar videos.

>> No.41426447

>>41426371
but enough about nijisanji

>> No.41426451

>>41417218
>Already blocked it
KWAB

>> No.41426510

>>41426447
I’d hoped that’d be enough, but you people won’t stop bringing them up

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41426559

Holo is leeching from Filian. What a shitshow.

>> No.41426589

>>41426447
Why are tribalfaggots like this?

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Guys, can you slow down? I haven’t even figured out which tag is considered “leeching” here, and we’ve already skipped over to the “deflect to Niji” phase. How about we firmly establish what the problem is before we start flinging ad hominems?

>> No.41426679

>>41417218
> Already blocked it
Holy based

>> No.41426713

>>41426559
who?

>> No.41426785

>>41410183
no not rent free
you are called nijiniggers for a reason

>> No.41426791

>>41426371
>What happened to the christmas miracle
Co-opted/shitposted by 2020 newfags, mostly

>> No.41426812

>>41426559
>retard who cant recognize the channel name

>> No.41426852

>>41426412
Nta but you're getting a little too emotional there, ESLchama. You haven't stated 1 objective fact in this whole debate

>> No.41426940

>>41417218
lmao what a bitch
did you cry too?

>> No.41426993

>>41426785
Because we get to live rent free, just like niggers do?

>> No.41427075

>>41418101
Rip

>> No.41427159

It's over scramboli reviews
vtubers won.

>> No.41427195

>>41405296
That's not a hololive channel.

>> No.41427311

Seriously, I always wish hololive was an American company instead of a Japanese one.
Great talent needs great "human" staff.

>> No.41427362

>>41426626
You say that as if you expect anything less of catalogfags

>> No.41427375

>>41426852
>objective fact
Hololive is older than Niji that's objective fact

>> No.41427397

>>41427311
Are you implying the Japanese aren't human?

>> No.41427478

>>41427375
And they were 2views before expanding to bilibili

>> No.41427495

>>41426993
damn

>> No.41427518

>>41418378
>Then why she was Gen 0 instead of Gen 1?
Can someone be part of a gen when they debuted on their own? When I think of a gen, i think of multiple people, a wave of new members.
Afaik Gen 0 wasn't even official before, it was a name given by the fans.

>> No.41427542

>>41427311
lmao contemporary america is the furthest thing from "human" possible

>> No.41427594

are Indie vtubers using the the meta tag hololive or nijisanji scummy or not?

>> No.41427653

>>41426559
Who?

>> No.41427785

>>41426412
>launch a "counter measure"
Nobody said Roboko was a countermeasure, retarded. She debuted AFTER NIji's 1st and 2nd wave, which means that her producing short video combined with some stream style in her first year can still be under the influence of Nijisanji. NOBODY is talking about how they planned the whole thing, and neither you nor I know how Cover decided to handle her in the first place. Also, she didn't "popularize" it, so it didn't affect my point whatsoever.
>a business decision that totally makes sense in order to save budget
Do you know how many 3D talents came before Gen 1? Cover created sora by themself, brought Roboco from some MMD creator, and sent Miko into the wild, hoping that she would succeed, but somehow failed to realize this "normal business decision" until 2018.07.
The fucking industry standard at that time was 3D, just like people think a mobile phone should have a keyboard. And there was legit no one ever succeeded with a 2D avatar before Nijisanji.
>but Niji does changing direction based on their members words themselves
To be more precise, only Gundo. And even in Gundo's own words, she stated that it was her own thought because she hated dancing. While in reality, Nijisanji already started sending their talent to major music labels all the way back in 2019 when Raindrops debuted.
Moreover, do you know how many agencies out there have music-focus? Kamitsubaki, Riotmusic. The whole "shift in direction" you claimed hasn't even led to a Vsinger that solely focuses on that. Calling that a direction copy while the whole 3D to 2D thing is a "normal business decision" is just biased as fuck and fucking delusional.

>> No.41427815

>>41398259
>キズナアイ
>にじさんじ
>filian
what the fuck lmao. How do you even make an excuse for this?

>> No.41427861

>>41427542
It is up to you to define people in developed countries as not human and Nips as human.
If that definition is applied, I will gladly quit calling myself a human.

>> No.41427869

>>41420803
no way! ISREAL

>> No.41428021

>>41427478
>And they were 2views before expanding to bilibili
Sora already 3views even before "xmas miracle" the only 2views are bunch of Niji that no one even bother to know their names, seethe more retard

>> No.41428058

>>41398480
>basing your morals off of rules and laws
you're doing it backwards, mister

>> No.41428220

>>41427861
you must become human and turn the tide

>> No.41428338

>>41428021
No she wasn't and don't pretend you were one of her 70 viewers.

>> No.41428652

>>41428338
>70 viewers
I remember it being around 80 though? She was playing piano in the white room or some shit.

>> No.41428670

>>41398508
who is this why is he being posted everywhere

>> No.41428709

>>41428670
It's the face of most of /vt/ at this time of the day.

>> No.41428753

>>41410714
She won big but it didn't matter, she took like an 8 months break and started to stream on Twitch when she got back

>> No.41428839

>>41427785
>Nobody said Roboko was a countermeasure
you're impying Holo only expanding "become agency" is because they copy Niji but like i said they are already try to expand the moment the decide to hire more talent which Roboco and she is around the time of Niji 1st wave so in order for your headcanon to be correct, Yagoo would need to know about Niji instantly after their debut and debuting Roboco in a month to "copy Niji"
>just like people think a mobile phone should have a keyboard And there was legit no one ever succeeded with a 2D avatar before Nijisanji
this is so retarded, 2d model is not new thing and eventually people would use it since it's more cost friendly, and it's like you're saying using 2d model is why Niji got success and being 3d will make their content totally different, i will say this again 2d or 3d have nothing to do with content
>To be more precise, only Gundo
nah Mayu said they are changing also what if it's only Gundou that doesn't change the fact that they are changing and i know they have member who do music but they never "encourage" member who don't want to that's why Gundou complaining about it
>Moreover, do you know how many agencies out there have music-focus? Kamitsubaki, Riotmusic. The whole "shift in direction" you claimed hasn't even led to a Vsinger that solely focuses on that. Calling that a direction copy while the whole 3D to 2D thing is a "normal business decision" is just biased as fuck and fucking delusional.
you seem so mad about it, i never really say that they 100% changing direction to copy Holo just to tease you to show how retarded you're with your headcanon that "Holo expanding to copy Niji"

>> No.41428892

>>41428021
Antama probably had more viewers than her pre-miracle lol

>> No.41428970

>>41428338
i'm sure there are many repost about "xmas" miracle, do your reps, Sora is only 2view on NND and when she move to streaming on Youtube, she managed to get more than 100 or 200 and that is before xmas miracle where she get 900-1k and boost her sub to 10k

>> No.41428996

>>41428670
hes a poor innocent SEAnig who took a pic at some vtubing convention that ended up getting memed here but he has the phenotype of the average /vt/ poster

>> No.41429062
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41429062

>>41398259
Why did this thread devolve into holo vs. niji again?
I doubt the OP is seriously asking rather than just catalog-fagging for views, but if you are legit curious, this video is on the First Take channel. They are known to use tags from people in the same industry, like this one of Jason Chan who has a rando assortment of HK singers on the metas.
Of course, First Take is owned by Sony, so neither Cover nor Suisei herself has any control over this stuff.

>> No.41429167

>>41429062
>Why did this thread devolve into holo vs. niji again?
Where do you think you are, anon?
It just comes so naturally for vtkeks to tribalfag at any given moment

>> No.41429174

Uto did nothing wrong. I will save this.

>> No.41429252

>>41428839
>you're impying Holo only expanding "become agency"
Your fucking reading comprehension. I always mean the part where they started hiring people to stream in a 2D avatar, that's also the point when they start referring to themselves as Hololive. How dumb do you have to be? Besides, when Roboco debuted, there wasn't Hololive as an agency either, they were separate talents managed by Cover. So what's your point?
>2d model is not new thing and eventually people would use it since it's more cost friendly
This is like saying Apple didn't make touch screens the de facto of the mobile phone industry simply because well they will start using them eventually.
>using 2d model is why Niji got success
No, lmao. How mad do you have to be to twist my word? I mean Mito popularized this format so others realize it's possible and accessible in a completely 3D-dominated market. Mito WILL succeed as a 3D vtuber nevertheless but the fact that she became a 2D vtuber pushed this format.
>Mayu said they are changing
He never explicitly said it was because of music but outright denied it's because of idol stuff, threadwatcher.
>i never really say that they 100% changing direction to copy Holo just to tease you to show how retarded you're with your headcanon that "Holo expanding to copy Niji"
Yeah, le epic troll lol.
The fact that you don't even understand where my point is and still claim that you "trolled" me is pretty amusing, ngl.

>> No.41429318

>Nijisanji bait threads die in catalog because nobody bites them
>Hololive bait threads reach post limit and are still getting new posts after page 10
Not a good look, Holokeks.

>> No.41429378

>>41429318
You don’t need to remind everyone that no one watches Nijisanji, anon.

>> No.41429436

>>41428970
I don't need some fifth party recount, I know what happened. "xmas miracle" is not as important as the ones that didn't witness it make it out to be, because as it turns out Sora was still unpopular after. She only really grew in popularity, even when compared to her coworkers in later Hololive gens, around the time of Hololive's gen 4 EOP boom.

>> No.41429639

>>41429318
That's like every other social media so it's not a surprise considering how much of a normie /vt/ is

>> No.41429700

>なとり
why her? was she even that big or relevant even before graduating?

>> No.41429785

Huh? why the hell would First Take do that?
It's not like they don't get views, they get huge numbers every vid of theirs. Plus do tags even do anything these days?

>> No.41429801

>>41429436
Yeah Xmas miracle didn't do shit to Holo, they were still irrelevant as ever. The big events that pushed Holo into #1 was Coco taking in the EOPs from Reddit plus Idolbu literally exploding and the Japs hardcore unicorns from there jumped ship to Holo(they were so hardcore to the point that the Idolbu girls can't collab with the 'unpure' girls like Mea and Tamaki, they literally had to cancelled irl events because unicorns were making a stink about those girls.

>> No.41429807

>>41429318
>implying it's not nijisisters larping and falseflaging as Hololive

>> No.41429932

>>41429700
It's Overdose なとり, not vtuber ones.
>>41429785
Well it worked for me. I hate Holo because they're fake, unicorn-pandering money-hungry whores, I click 'don't recommend channel' to any Holo and Holo clip channels and that shit still showed up.

>> No.41429986

>>41407507
>announcing reports
Oh boy thats a paddling

>> No.41430084

>>41429252
>when Roboco debuted,there wasn't Hololive as an agency either, they were separate talents managed by Cover
says who ? who decide that ? Roboco debut is a proof they are expanding thus they are agency
>This is like saying Apple didn't make touch screens the de facto of the mobile phone industry simply because well they will start using them eventually
doesn't make sense, 2d model is clearly more cost friendly not just a change because it's more preferable or anything like that
>I mean Mito popularized this format so others realize it's possible and accessible in a completely 3D-dominated market
being in 2d model is not a content format model is not a format, Mito format is streaming which as i already explained its known even since NND and Niji is not even the first vtuber to do a stream either, how many time i need to explain that model have nothing to do with content "2d streaming format" that's just your made up word to try to be the "first", it's only streaming format, 2d or 3d is just a model based on choice
>He never explicitly said it was because of music but outright denied it's because of idol stuff, threadwatcher.
never said he did, just simple thinking, Mayu complaint about company changing direction, then Gundou complaint about singing and dancing and then again like i said even if it's only Gundou it doesn't change the fact, you're just trying to argue semantic for whatever reason
>the fact that you don't even understand where my point is and still claim that you "trolled" me is pretty amusing, ngl
you have no point only your headcanon. quite hilarious, ngl

>> No.41430166

>>41429436
never said it's that important even for Sora's growth
>And they were 2views before expanding to bilibili
this is just simply retarded so idk

>> No.41430285

>>41429932
that's a lot of seeths

>> No.41430940

>>41398259
i mean what did you expect from Sony?

>> No.41430974

>>41430285
You would bee seething too if you see vtubers you don't like on your youtube page because they're putting unrelated tags in their video. Though only Hololive do this shit because the only thing they care about is money and fame, honestly they remind me of Chinese people.

>> No.41431179

>>41430974
Tags don't work anymore, retard. It's not late 2000s.

>> No.41431276

>>41398259
>Gawr Gura
>Watson Amelia
Where's the rest of EN? Are their tags weaker?

>> No.41431981

>amelia
I laughed

>> No.41432062

>>41407507
GL I guess trying to strike the First goddamn Take of all things.

>> No.41432163

>>41431276
I tried a bunch of smaller and semi-big Vtuber videos and so far all of them use the Gawr Gura tag. Seems like she is synonymous with Vtubing so it's fair game I guess.

>> No.41432557

>>41407507
Do it

>> No.41436772

>>41408665
Niji was bigger in Japan, Hololive just had crossovers with shit people internationally would know.
>>41417218
Based.
>>41420965
You guys were complaining about her "copying" Gura so.
>>41425509
>Holobrony so retarded he didn't notice youtube itself says it barely aids in discovery

>> No.41437158

>>41405206
And you think Youtube gonna punish Sony for that?

They can't even able to punish Russian's RT channel for spreading fake news. No way YT gonna do something with Sony who throwing money into Google day and night.

Welcome to the Big Boy Club where it's doesn't matter what they do, they will never lose.

>> No.41438808

>>41407663
QRD?

>> No.41440109

>>41429932
>Well it worked for me.
because the video is getting a shitton of fucking likes and engagement you retard, not because of the metatags. if you wanna know why they even bothered then ask TFT itself.

>> No.41440564

>>41398259
>Leeching off Amelia and not Gura
Chumbuds are in shambles.

>> No.41442057

>>41440564
Bait looks so tasty, but I won't bite.

>> No.41442208

>>41442057
A snack from time to time don't hurt no one.

>> No.41442215

You people actually think you can get a Sony channel banned? Kek

>> No.41442432

>>41442208
I may be ESL, but my teacher taught me about double negatives.

>> No.41444929

>>41398259
hmmm

>> No.41446295

>>41398259
Kek nijimaggots should be happy to get mentioned in the historical moment be glad that your mere existence got recognised by one of the queen of vtubing

>> No.41446430

>>41426626
Go back to your general, you're too slow for these parts.

>> No.41447133

>>41398259
>filian
lmao

>> No.41447361

>>41398259
Why is she leeching isn't she already popular enough?

>> No.41448140

>>41398259
Yikes

>> No.41448430

>>41447133
can't blame them for trying to leech off the zoomer queen

>> No.41448732
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41448732

>>41429318
yeah this "holokeks" even organizes their replies through discord and such

>> No.41450184

>>41398259
>filian
lel, always count on the japs to tag a transphobic white supremacist.

>> No.41451285
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41451285

>>41417218
>I got that video recommends to me eventhough I haven't get any hololive's video suggest to me for years. Already blocked it

>> No.41451512

>kizuna ai
Lmao

>> No.41451785

>>41412502
KEK holy shit I just peeked her description. I'm going to have to copy it now for my streams

>> No.41455112

>>41398259
Why watson and not the 2m subs rapping reaper

>> No.41455577

>>41448732
checkmate troons I don't even recognize Mori calliope as a hololive member so keep helping me cleanse the fanbase

>> No.41457469

>>41398259
Why did all the other threads where someone linked the actual video on The First Take's youtube channel, owned by Sony and a much bigger channel than any VTuber could ever hope to compare to, die out, but this one that's been camped by the same retard(s) like >>41430974 keeps getting bumped with new posts going "OMG???? SUISEI DID REALLY???" like >>41447361 and >>41448140?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAsRtnbDs-0

>> No.41462325

>>41398259
who cares

>> No.41462339

>>41398259
this is not enough tags

>> No.41469019

>>41407634
Yagoo's favorite

>> No.41469287

>>41398259
These big corporate channels all use AI to determine the best meta tags to use in their videos. No one knows how or why any were chosen.

>> No.41469555

>>41469019
Fucking kill yourself, stop bumping this thread.

>> No.41475069

>>41451785
Link for the stream when you do it

>> No.41480271

>>41406868
Lmao holokeks

>> No.41481107

>Noooo! Niji is bigger than Hololive in JP!!! Nijis are harder, faster, better, stronger!!!
>Hololive is powerful enough to control what Sony does!
How are both of these true?

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