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41118084 No.41118084 [Reply] [Original]

Double standards.

>> No.41118163

Nothing much happened here Op, aside from mumei scaring everyone.

>> No.41118210

>>41118084
It's a one off. I swear. It's still holding. I don't think she ever promoted or acknowledge any Tempiss member.

>> No.41118235

Oh no no no no unibros????

>> No.41118265

>1 year ago

>> No.41118336

Unironically Bae dragged her into it against her will, she just didn't have the courage to say no like IRyS did around the same time

>> No.41118467
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41118467

Holy fuck I see it too. The final yab...

>> No.41118555

>>41118210
She got asked about the announcement during a members stream and said she was out of the loop on stuff like that, followed their twitter accounts, then proceeded to ignore any mention of them on stream. Vesper said they exchanged brief pleasantries when Tempus were first introduced to the girls, but they haven’t spoken since.
>>41118336
She said at the start of the week that Bae was helping her reach out to girls in the other branches. Bae probably just didn’t put much thought into the group collab with HoloID also containing dudes.

>> No.41118563

>>41118336
Wasn't Iofi the one who organized the collab?
This has always been cope since there has never been proof. It's not hard to accept that Moom was uncomfortable with the experience and never wanted to do it again

>> No.41118671

>>41118084
Till this day Mumei's participation in this Collab feels like she was doing a favour for Bae

>> No.41118684

she just want to spam gore to homos

>> No.41118843

>>41118336
>>41118555
Always felt all of these things like "S-SHE DIDN'T KNOW" and "SHE WAS FORCED" claims are just cope. She had no problem talking to stars like Astel and showing up during his karaokes and commenting in her first few months being around. Shit didn't seem to be a problem until this collab was announced and there was a huge fucking meltdown. The unicorns successfully put the fear of God into her and she ended up having the personality of a wet blanket in the collab then memory holed it for the rest of time.

>> No.41118869

>>41118084
How many times do we have to tell you… it was just the one time, with JP members who she is literally incapable of communicating with, then she never did it again and since then she’s gone on record to say she prefers female collabs, which is a polite way of saying she isn’t gonna do that again

>> No.41118906

>>41118084
Damn, it's over. Tell me, how old is this collab and how many more homocollabs she did before and after it? I am genuinely curious, OP.

>> No.41118930

>>41118563
People at the time said that Bae didn’t want to be the only EN there, so rrats spawned from that. Mumei had shown up in Astel’s karaoke chat once before that, so you’re right that it’s likely she was merely undecided at that point.

>> No.41119033

>>41118843
>unicorn overestimating his own influence
>exaggerating to pretend he’s right

>> No.41119124

>>41118084
She caught the backlash, learned from her mistakes and avoids all holostars now, even said she's kind of an unicorn in her QnA.
So Mumei is on the cgdct team.

>> No.41119292

>>41118467
sus

>> No.41119318

>>41119124
there's a backlash?

>> No.41119464

>>41119318
Only on here. Mostly just from the “people” who seethe at her very existence using it as an excuse.

>> No.41119581

>>41118084
Lmao, Why even bringing this up? Trying to get her to catch the all hate as well

>> No.41119699

>>41118084
It just further proves how retarded the pro/anti star shitposting is.
She joined to try it out, it turned out to be a perfectly fine collab and after that she has never felt like continuing collabing with stars and that's it.

>> No.41119768

>>41119124
>Backlash
Lol you can't influence anything. She decided it on her own just like she decided on her own to accept the invitation from Iofi.

>> No.41119838

>>41119318
she knows kronii situation will happen if she did collab with homos. Smart owl

>> No.41119858

>>41119581
Look at the post above you for the answer. There’s schizos who seethe at the fact that she exists as a Hololive member, and they’re frustrated that they can’t ride the Tempus wave to shit on her.

>> No.41120042

>>41118084
I hope you realize its hoocucks that make the threads that include her and try to memory hole the event as hard as possible.
She will never be part of cgdct. Only Gura Fauna and IryS are left and i don't care what trannies, nijiniggers or any of the cuckold girls or their fans have to say.
They need to get in the cuck shed and stay there, asap.
SNOT? More like SN and IryS

>> No.41120112

>>41119699
They won't accept this truth. They're retarded, as you say.

>> No.41120185

Honestly was probably asked and slightly pressured into doing it and she doesn't have too much of a backbone. She did it the one time, saw the slight reactions, panicked, and decided to never get put in that situation again. Mumei is pretty smart when she's not being silly. Probably recognized that it's not worth it since the only thing you gain is problems

>> No.41120351

>>41118843
he also was pretty lively and asking a lot of questions about the boys at the new years concert viewing party....

legitimately if kronii wasnt such a fucking retard about the male collab drama nobody would give a shit

>> No.41120380

Unicorns on here aren't as bothered by the JP Stars as the EN ones, because they see the JP boys as male idols while the EN boys are just horny foreigners trying to score some Asian pussy.

>> No.41120432

>>41119318
Same backlash Kronii and Amelia got, everyone was shitting on Mumei an year ago.
But on a lesser scale because there was no tempus at the time.
Collabs with the JP stars is unironically less harmless to your career

>> No.41120827

>>41120432
So only retards in this board and a few more from shitty sites like Reddit?

>> No.41120958

>>41120827
I mean both Ame and Kronii have experienced pretty substantial viewership loss as well

>> No.41120999

>>41120380
>they see the JP boys as male idols
Subhuman scums here see them as weak and non threaten faggot who they can't understand and don't care about.
StarEN in another hand didn't bug by all the hate they recieved and ended up doing fine. They also speak in a language these faggots can understand that why they care.

>> No.41121049

>>41119292
amogus?

>> No.41121105

https://youtu.be/-MBAaMfRw4c
brrats status? this is kinda confirmed that Moom is just there with starsJP for Bae

>> No.41121107

>>41118084
Why does this stars collab seem fine to me (and Oga+Fubuki, Matsuri+Roberu) but Kronii's and Mori's always seem...off, like they are forcing something and want to intentionally upset Hololive listeners.

>> No.41121149

>>41120351
You know that lying won’t do you any good, right?

>> No.41121281

>>41121105
>off-collab
absolute state of Bae

>> No.41121352

>>41121105
aaa murdering numbers even more

>> No.41121420
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>>41118210
HOLD THE WHORE

>> No.41121755

She gave it a try and then decided she didn't wanna do it again.
What's the FUCKING problem?

>> No.41121924

>>41121755
She did it again, didn't she collabed with Tempus already lmfao

>> No.41121949

>>41121755
The problem is that he’s not able to seethe about her continuing to do it.

>> No.41121975 [DELETED] 

>>41121924
nta but I remember that stream. Why do hoomans want to pretend it never happened?

>> No.41122010

>>41121924
Are you getting the girls mixed up anon?

>> No.41122053

>>41121924
uhh.. anon?

>> No.41122069

>>41121924
I wonder what their reaction will be when Mumei also starts to collab with tempus.

>> No.41122163

>>41118084
homos :|
homos, japan :D

>> No.41122227

>>41121924
Schizo moment

>> No.41122488

>>41121975
wtf are you saying?

>> No.41123404

>>41118084
Mumei scaring holostarsjp to make them stay away?

>> No.41125125

>>41120351
people just use kronii being retarded about it as an excuse to keep hating on her, people still hate ame and she wasn't nearly as retarded about it

>> No.41125189

>>41121924
>>41121975
no she didn't bozo, is it really that hard to look up "mumei + tempus" on youtube before posting this stupid bullshit?

>> No.41125231

>>41122069
my guy it's been like 6 months, 95 percent of the people asking for it have given up, demand is at an all time low, if they haven't done it already, why on earth would they start now?

>> No.41125279 [DELETED] 

>>41122488
>>41125189
See >>41123636
Boy, you must feel stupid right now.

>> No.41125353

>>41118084
Hoomans think people will forget all about this

>> No.41125406

If the males in question can't communicate with the females in question properly then it doesn't matter because they won't be able to grab her attention. If they can they feel like a threat due to male psychology seeing every single other male, including friends and family, as competition when it comes to literally anything, especially women.

It's the same kind of reason why women feel self conscious about their tit size and basically are always comparing to the women around them and in the media they watch.

>> No.41125517

>>41120042
This but unironically.

>> No.41125591

>>41118930
She chose Hololive over Nijisanji, because she wanted the all female environment. She isn't going to change from this unless forced.

>> No.41125649

That's it, I'll be dropping Mumei

>> No.41125663

>>41118084
Is being unable to distinguish a basic level of context a sign of unironic autism or just low intelligence?

>> No.41125668

>>41125279
>shilling your own crappy bait edit

>> No.41125713

>>41120380
I honestly doubt the number of actual unicorns on /vt/, I think most are just looking for an excuse to anti someone and shitpost. It's pretty easy to see as well if you just look at the number of supposed unicorns that say "it's okay because they don't speak the same language" or "it's okay because it's a big collab" or "it's okay because she only did it once" like come on.

>> No.41125723

>>41120185
Of course she has a backbone. Bae and Kronii are the two members she's likely the closest to and they're both pro male collabs.

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>>41125668
Yes.

>> No.41125851

>>41118869
>it was just the one time
That's all it takes to be tainted. She could've made up a tummy hort excuse and drop out but still went through with it. Doesn't matter, she was in a stream with males so she's disqualified from cgdct.

>> No.41125889

>>41121107
Mori is absolutely agenda driven, I am still undecided on Kronii. Collabs with the JP stars are completely non-threatening and respectful, it's no wonder Bae prefers them.

>> No.41125932

>>41125406
Nobody will reply to this because they know that it's right.

>> No.41125941

>>41125851
Are you willing to make the same argument about Miko or Subaru?

>> No.41125946

>>41125851
>i'm a schizo
k

>> No.41125961

>>41125941
Yes

>> No.41126013

>>41125713
Unicorns and homobeggars both have a vested interest in making unicorn numbers seem bigger than they actually are.

>> No.41126016

>>41121107
mental illness on your part

>> No.41126057

>>41125941
Yes though their tunes changed when Gen 3 happened. Miko took an extended leave while Subaru better integrated into the cgdct culture. Mumei did this when the culture was already established in Hololive and EN mostly followed it up until this point.

>> No.41126067

>>41125961
Your self-imposed rules don't even have meaning behind them. You're adhering to them without consideration of context, actual NPC behavior.

>> No.41126068

>>41125961
Ok, then that’s a simple difference of opinion. Usually there’s a whole bunch of mental gymnastics on how it’s ok that JP did it.

>> No.41126126

>>41126057
>coping

>> No.41126187

>>41126126
I'm not saying they're fully excused but whether you want to consider them cgdct now is up to you.

>> No.41126415

>>41126187
And would it not be possible to say the same of Mumei? Because otherwise it just sounds like a bunch of mental gymnastics.

>> No.41126732

>>41126415
Well the current standards of cgdct is not collabing with the opposite gender outside of being forced to whether by the company or sponsorships. Mumei could've just had an out of it like how Kiara did when the Worms collab was going around but still went through with it. You can't even say she was unaware of this when we were 6 JP generations in with many girls already making statements of why either they don't mention Stars or why they don't collab with them. This is why Subaru and Miko can get a pass on this, not because "lol it's fine when JP does it".

>> No.41126820

>>41126732
>still coping
Just admit you don’t have a leg to stand on here.

>> No.41127083 [DELETED] 

>>41126820
Keep moving that goalpost hoocuck

>> No.41127153

>>41127083
Good to see you being honest with your intentions now.

>> No.41127556

>>41127153
No no, he's right. Based on every other precedent involving males and the standards by which the rest of the board holds these girls to, mumei should not be regarded as a pure holo anymore and has earned the status of whore. If she had only exchanged messages with them it would be one thing, but she was on stream with the males. Instant disqualification, regardless of the amount of cope arguments brought up like "she didn't know/didn't want to be there". If this assessment is incorrect, you better send the memo on how to properly assess whore status of a vtuber to the rest of /vt/

>> No.41127584

>>41118084
Not sure what I should be looking at in the pic, could you add some red arrows too?

>> No.41127642

>>41127556
Based and true. Faggots are faggots, and collabing with them in any manner forever taints you as a homolover. It's like losing your virginity. Once it's gone, you can never take it back. For Mumei, even if it was one encounter, it's enough to label her a homolover unless she publicly denounces them or unfollows them on Twitter.

>> No.41127677

Girls who become tainted can become clean again after 6 months of not collabing with any men if it was a group collab or 12 months if it was a 1on1 collab

>> No.41127718

>>41127642
Not even that would be good enough. Like you said, it's like losing your virginity. Her metaphorical, no male collab hymen is gone and won't be coming back no matter how much she were to denounce the males
>>41127677
Holy cope

>> No.41127740

>>41127677
Nice try hoocuck. They're never "clean" if they still follow the faggots on Twitter. They should only considered one of the good ones once they've scrubbed every mention of the homos on their Twitter.

>> No.41127787

>>41118084
Don't people get tired of having this same conversation every day? It's fine if a girl doesn't collab with Tempus. It's fine if they do. Doing one versus the other doesn't make her more or less your girlfriend. Or make them a better or worse streamer.

>> No.41127791 [DELETED] 

It's funny because even her RM violates double standards. She's just a darling on /vt/ for reasons.

>> No.41127799

>>41127718
I'm Catholic so I believe in redemption. You may have made a mistake, but I believe you can always come back from it as long as you truly do some introspection and repent for your sins. In Mumei's case, this would be disavowing the faggots.

>> No.41127892

>>41125125
Kronii was extremely retarded and had to hide behind management. Ame was different, she takes the passive-aggressive, audience antagonizing route which gets her the hate.

>> No.41127998

>>41121107
It's literally that, before Tempus debuted Mori thought Rpr was a Holostar and Kronii stole Shien's Mafia adaptation not crediting him until his fanbase called her out on it.

>> No.41128016

>>41118084
When other girls don't collab with homos for a year, than we can talk.

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>>41121107
>like they are forcing something
Everyone can see through it that's why even Holostar fans hate them.

>> No.41128095 [DELETED] 

>>41127787
I mean, I agree and just enjoy streams when I have the time. I'm just going by the """""standards""""" /vt/ has set(?) for what is considered a whore (at least, /here/ ) based on the overall reactions and consensus in relevant threads. Sure, mumei and pretty much all of EN should be disqualified if RM stuff were held to the same standard as their vtuber counterpart but the majority of this board had agreed that whatever these girls do in private and off stream is irrelevant. That's most likely just a cope as well (lol) but fair since it technically stops being vtuber related

>> No.41128248

>>41118084
i dunno unicorns won very hard there

>> No.41128261

>>41127556
Follow the damn reply chain. If he’s right, then he wouldn’t be making excuses for the others. As it is, he’s clearly more interested in shitting on Mumei than arguing in good faith. If you’re taking an absolutist position, without exception, I can respect that.

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41129651

Uhh, can hoomans explain this one?

>> No.41129777

>>41121107
Stop listening to the voices in your head

>> No.41129813

>>41129651
yab

>> No.41129812

>>41118467
Kino

>> No.41129840

>>41129651
That’s an edit. Are you still crying about your bait thread earlier being deleted?

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>ThAt'S aN EdiT. ArE yOu STiLl crYiNg aBoUT yOuR BaiT tHrEaD eArLiEr bEiNg DeLeTeD?

>> No.41130200

>>41130049
You could just say yes like normal person.

>> No.41130264

>>41118084
You leave moom the fuck alone , nigger

>> No.41130501 [DELETED] 

>>41118084
Everyone knew Mumei had a bf from the start, all unicorns left her way back then

>> No.41130524

>>41126068
I don't really understand why people cope so much, just look at this retard >>41126067
>n-no it d-doesn't matter if th-they collabed with m-males in the past th-they're still unicorns b-because the meaning is different in m-my head and y-you're taking it t-too literally
SAD!

>> No.41130543

>>41118084
Mumie was dragged into that collab by Bae, said not a single word the entire time, and did everything she could to come across as a danger to anyone that bothered her. It was the ideal way to deal with interacting with men; make them never want to talk to you again.

>> No.41130609

>>41130543
Just 360 and walk away from the collab. If my oshi was "dragged" by her friend into a collab with a male unknowingly she would have immediately left.

>> No.41130684

>>41130543
A simple tummy hort could've gotten her out of that stream easy.

>> No.41130685

>>41130609
>360
Anon...

>> No.41130711

>>41130524
It’s either homobeggars being successful enough at twisting the meaning to the point that newfags adopt it based on the definition of “disagrees with homobeggars” or a falseflag. Personally, I’d go with a probation period and a shot at redemption, but I also wouldn’t call myself a unicorn or call them unicorn-friendly afterwards.

>> No.41132203

>>41121107
most dont appreciate the two of them forcing themselves into Tempus projects all the time and the drama that happens whenever they interact with each other especially from Kroniis fans

>> No.41132923

>>41130524
There's no "cope," the whole point of being a unicorn is to tell whether or not the girl has genuine interest in another guy over their fanbase. They actually care about the talent and the relationship between her and her fanbase. So when someone is in a position where she literally doesn't speak the other person's language and has no indication of having any sort of relationship with the person, why would they care?
You're just a dumbass who's using the label without any meaning behind it.

>> No.41133045

>>41132923
>there's no cope
>types a paragraph of cope
Cope.

>> No.41133089

>>41133045
If you weren't such a retard I wouldn't have to type anything to explain the obvious to you.

>> No.41133179

>>41133089
If you weren't such a retard you wouldn't need to type anything to cope, you'd just accept the simple fact that your oshi is a whore.

>> No.41133263

>>41133179
If you think that collab makes her a whore you unironically are mentally deranged.

>> No.41133465

>>41132923
>My oshi doesn't even acknowledge males, she's pure unlike your whore!
>She only mentioned their name, at least she isn't collabing with them
>It's a group collab, she didn't even talk to the males. It doesn't count!
>She's only doing the one-on-one collab professionally with the male. It means nothing!
>She's laughing and enjoying herself with the male out of pity. It doesn't mean she's no longer pure
>IMPROVE YOURSELF!
I expect Hoomans and Chummies to follow this slope

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>>41133465
>tfw my oshi has directly stated multiple times on stream that she'll never collab with a male and doesn't understand why guys would even want to watch that

>> No.41134013

>>41133465
There is no "slope", your oshi either acts in a ways that's considerate of her gachikoi or she doesn't. That's literally all it comes down to.

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>>41129651
Unicornbros... We just keep losing...

>> No.41134338

>>41133263
You're unironically, literally, actually arguing with a homobeggar. They timeloop this shit constantly no matter how often it's explained because they want to poison the well. Given enough time they'll start dropping dox and rm shit to "win". Why do you keep replying?

>> No.41134508

>>41134338
Because I want them to not be retarded. I know, probably asking for the impossible.

>> No.41135064

>>41121105
>studio off-collab
>it's just going to be Bae sitting in the corner while Achan amazon presses the dorky Oga

>> No.41135256

>>41120432
>less harmless
???

>> No.41135301

>>41135256
See >>41132923
>it doesn't matter if she collabed with a male, they didn't speak to each other so it doesn't count

>> No.41135483

>>41118843
Homobeggars can't even tell the difference between ame and Mumei

>> No.41136663

>>41135301
read the sentence again, you're contradicting yourself
>less harmless

>> No.41138196

>>41118467
i will never not smile listening to this

>> No.41138259

>>41118843
oh my god who fucking cares

>> No.41138659

>>41120042
Wait what happened with Kiara and Ina? Am I out of the loop?

>> No.41140692

>>41138659
>he doesn't know

>> No.41146804

>>41118084
IT DOESN'T COUNT

>> No.41149540

>>41118930
That rrat sounds somewhat plausible, since this wasn't the first time Bae sets up a holo to interact with homos. That time where Bae did a birthday call in the middle of a collab was the most obvious

>> No.41149894

>>41149540
>birthday call in the middle of a collab
That's been a semi-common thing with JP for years, and she was careful to respect Fauna's boundrais by keeping it not mentioning details about either talents in the streams.

>> No.41150117

>>41149894
Mumei and Iroha both did it for Mori’s birthday during an Anya collab.

>> No.41150330

>>41150117
True, so it's not uncommon for EN as well.
But yeah, the most important thing Bae did during that collab/call in was respect Fauna's boundraies and not mention the stars, while also not mentioning Fauna during the call in.

>> No.41150738

>>41150330
>>41149894
She literally said Magni's name are you guys dumb

>> No.41150895

>>41150738
yeah, sure mate.

>> No.41151272

>>41150895
She did right before calling in, but avoided it afterwards, so it was probably a slip-up or she couldn’t think of a good excuse.

>> No.41151609

>>41151272
Yeah man, totally.

>> No.41151695

>>41118084
Why would unicorns care about Mumei?

>> No.41151895

>>41151695
They don’t. Antis pretend to be unicorns in order to shitpost.

>> No.41152509

Didn't Mumei say she prefers Hololive being about the girls when asked about tempus collabs? Pretty sure that's why people consider her at least good-enough.

It's not even about being anti-male IMO so much as being pro-Hololive and like 95% of the JP girls have never had a Stars collab, and the ones who did had done it like once or twice years back and don't even mention them anymore. JP is the model as they are the real deal and whose fame was so big even in the West that Cover considered an EN branch. Wanting HoloEN to just be NijiEN basically separates wheat from chaff in terms of who actually-respects what really built up the brand and Mumei seems on-board with not being a rebel without a cause like Mori or someone with 0 respect/comprehension of why it matters like Kronii.

>> No.41153143

>>41152509
she just said that she hadn't been keeping up with the Tempus launch. She's definitely talked with at least one of the guys.
What i think you're alluding to is when she was asked why she wanted to be in Hololive she said because she wanted to be in a group of girls, which does show why she rarely collabs with males but doesn't preclude her from acknowledging them on twitter or doing a larger collab once every blue moon. As a hooman, I wouldn't mind at all if she does one or two male collabs a year just to cull the parasocial unicorn hooties

>> No.41153217

>>41150895
>>41151609
https://youtu.be/Gho_nn-K6jo?t=4534
The great maglord. Wonder how fauna felt hearing that.

>> No.41153510

>>41150895
>>41151609
https://youtu.be/jrJ8YuEbGZ0?t=7703
Like I don't give a fuck either way but don't spout lies.

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>>41153510
Good for you mate.

>> No.41154026

>the power of positive affirmations

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