what was THE worst arc for any vtuber?

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hard mode: no minecraft

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Moris everything

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>>41115132
RUST. ALL of it.

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Tenma's Offline TV collab spam arc was awful and made me drop her.
NijiEN's collab spam arc when Luxiem debuted was awful and made me stay away a few months

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Ark arc, and it’s infecting the nijiEN

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Splatoon
Axolotl breeding
Shiny hunting
RUST
Undertale
MonHun
The numberfagging arc. Flare in particular was extremely obnoxious.

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>>41115391
lmao

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>>41115132
Hololive torturing me with Tumblrtale, I fucking hate that game and then all of them played it. I do not want to see this fucking shit game anywhere at all.

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>>41115561
>Flare in particular was extremely obnoxious.
wait, what did she do?

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>>41117310
>he's STILL mad about Toby's game

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>>41117632
I thought she liked Undertale? What's to be mad about?

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The Haachama/Haato-chan meds arc grew old fast.

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>>41115132
Maybe someone else will remind me of something worse, but Splatoon 3 is what comes to my mind. I don't know why nips like that game so much.

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The schizo Haachama arc was twice as long as it should have been and all interest petered out by the end of it despite it being huge at the start.

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>>41115205
you fucking joking? the entire season 2 of rust with that finale against pekora was some of the best shit they've done.

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>>41115132
so many newfag holoshit answers.
Remember Oyabun? Literally the biggest chuuba. Then came the downward spiral of the multiple Ai arc

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>>41115132
Splatoon
Aki spammed it for months and I got sick of it

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>>41115132
In what way? Growth? Content? Experience?

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>>41115132
generally speaking the pokemon arcs are the worst out of all game arcs, it's so fucking boring to watch and somehow on every new release 95% of a company is playing it and severely limits my choices. but for specific arcs the worst are just those that are really just plain embarrassing to watch:

- as much as i'm fine with minecraft, the PPP arc just made me fucking drop ame. she was so seriously retarded to refuse consulting a guide, ask chat then get mad at chat anyway for ''backseating''. even when i check her out every once in a while she has a particular vitriol in her voice that reminds me of that arc

- the enna-kyo arc is just simply fucking humiliating for anyone that watched enna (me included), and i'm someone that's not normally bothered by male collabs. some cringe wigger from a failed wave starts latching onto one of nijiEN's rising stars and then it's a conga line of retardation where even the non-parasocial fans are outright implicated as ''cucks'', ending up sabotaging enna's growth. the entire thing was flat out unprofessional on their part and i fucking hope iluna is forcibly graduated save for maria

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I was teetering on becoming a Gosling for Yura Rikudou, but she filtered me when her ARK/K-Son supporting cast member era began, and I never went back.

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Mori gets addicted to Jump King, to the point that she tried to make an ill-fated Jump King tournament that nobody joined

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>>41115132
ENVtubers existing.

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>>41119309
Dont graduate aia pls. I still need more porn of her

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>>41115132
Rushia's yab arc and the legion of indies denouncing GFE. 99.9999% of them never watched her streams which made it more embarrassing.

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>>41117882
People are going to hate me for saying this, but Kizuna's content was never that good. Neither was Shiro's, Luna's or Akari's content. Sure they all had good moments, but not enough of them. Their popularity was due to the novelty of being the first actual popular vtubers. After that novelty ran dry people started just getting bored of them. Hololive was the first company to actually take the concept of vtubers and improve on it in a meaningful way.

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>>41115337
I'm glad tenma learned her lesson from that but I still don't watch her very often these days. besides that I'm glad apex is dying, it killed my interest in so many v tubers

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haachama's schizo arc.
and not because of the content or anything like that, I actually enjoyed it quite a bit...but the people it attracted were the worst kinds of "fans" I've ever seen a chuuba has.
to me, haachama's chat during that period was the worst chat to ever exist in the chuuba sphere, beating even the chink bots or vox

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>>41115132
minecraft was fucking dope. fuck off back to /v/ you disgusting vermin

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>>41117310
Cope. The left makes better games than the right.

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>>41119309
>h and somehow on every new release 95% of a company is playing it
time limited permissions to play it. they have to finish the new ones in x months or hope they will be able to play it after some years

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>>41117941
Same honestly. Her reaching S rank was nice but the +x ranks grinding were absolutely awful.

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Dragon Quest

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>>41126098
thats holo but even nijisanji fucking does it, open nijimado on a fresh pokemon release and and it's nothing but that, especially on the JP side

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Kronii's subway arc was disgusting, I threw up

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Offcollab and it's consequences

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>>41126220
>but even nijisanji
bad example desu. niji is more "free" but they are still a corpo that has to stick to the stricter rules
the simple answer is anyway is that it gets some eyes on them and is something a lot of them seem to enjoy playing

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Pokemon. I had a lot of fun watching Astel clear it two days after release, but it's the kind of game you don't want to watch a second time

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>>41126031
How fucking dare an you associate that poor dog with your deranged tribalism

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>>41115132
For Myth:

>Ina
Her recent illness arc resulting in a long break

>Gura
Same as above. Could even extend into 2022 in general

>Ame
The months following her first move in 2021 featuring the termite infestation and her "ame lockdown"

>Mori
The infamous trash taste connor arc

>Kiara
Her first few months of EN, channel deletion etc

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>>41115132
Haato schizo arc

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>>41117882
Kizuna's gamer outfit makes my dick hard

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>>41126341
i mean in the context of pokemon perms nintendo is a lot more lenient on anycolor, half thanks to bullypanda and half thanks to anycolor maintaining a good rep by not having a massive copyright shitshow, so they shouldn't be as pressured to rush the game on a limited time

but yeah as boring as it is pokemon streams get a lot of eyes on the first few days at least, and then they fall off hard once the first-time playthrough buff has worn off

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Haachama trying so hard to fit into HoloEN when they were the new hotness actually got me to drop her completely.

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>>41126169
weak mind

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the kronii-tempus saga was awful

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>>41115132
ASMR pandering in general

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>>41115132
I don't watch them, but honestly the Noel and Flare pandering to ENs on reddit arc. Most English speaking pandering from that era was bad, but I remember they were going as far as making weekly threads announcing their English streams when they literally didn't even care and dropped it when they saw the pandering didn't increase numbers. "Hey sexy kaigai Niki! English stream start 9JST". Marine did it better.

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>>41115132
APEX was and still is the biggest cancer to vtubing i've ever seen. Second place goes to gacha series. Third place grindy boring games like ARK and other grindy boring shit that gets numbers like shiny hunting.

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>>41117829
They play it because nips love that game and it's nintendo with kawaii characters.

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>>41115132
Kronii's lifetime arc ever she debuted. Worst of all, it's still on-going.
Tenma collabing with Offline TV. That shit was awful.

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>>41115132
Undertale and the Haachama arc.

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>>41126169
weak

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The NijiEN Valorant arc
Momotetsu
Nina's "Luxiem accessory" arc
Any Ark arc
any time they start bringing out Duolingo
That time near Holo/Nijifes when there are barely any streams and you have to listen to the girls say how tired and stressed out they are

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Also Undertale but only with EN members because it's so hard to believe they haven't all been spoiled to hell and back

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The chinese bot spam arc was pretty bad across multiple channels.

Enna+Kyo off collab was fucking awful. I feel slightly sick watching it.

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>>41126031
The best games were passion projects rarely politically aligned. Grieve the loss of the teams of the 80s-00s.

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I wasn't a fan of the whole, "Everyone goes on vacation or gets sick at the same time" arc. Kiara is the only one that did it well. Bae, Fauna, and Mumei got better on the second half of it when they started the vacation arc but it was okay at best.

The Pokemon arcs weren't that fun either because too many people joined in. Ame's Rust arc besides the taxi service wasn't too great either. Not a fan of Niji's forced shipping arcs either. There's clearly no chemistry

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>>41135410
being sick isn't an arc

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>>41115132
Every Pokemon release

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MY FRIENDS

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Is this the 'games I don't like' thread? Pokemon.

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>>41115132
tempus arc

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APEX
Valorant
Overwatch
any of these shitty esport wannabe shooters are fucking tedious as shit to watch

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Finana's gacha arc. She can be a genuinely endearing & entertaining streamer and then she decided to do 2-3 gacha streams a week

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>>41119309
Eh I like scarle and ren.
Sure they're not the representation of a conventional vtuber, but they're chill and it's kinda endearing seeing actual normalfags trying to find their way in weeb culture.

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Horse woman arc

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when a new chilla game would come out and literally every holo would play it

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when they play any slightly skill intensive game for the first time and I'm reminded their base intelligence is just barely functional (with a few exceptions). Simple pattern recognition isn't there, how could I ever respect this person enough to care about what they're doing for a moment? Oh god this is all a waste of time and I should be pursuing my own goals instead

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>>41145138
>She can be a genuinely endearing & entertaining streamer
why lie? Just say you dont like gachashit, nobody does

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>>41146291
Her Hitman and GTAV streams were great

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>>41115132
Tempiss arc
/thread

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>>41144928
This shit has killed Towa for me. Every time I see that she's live it's just her playing apex with a bunch of literally whos

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Mori and TT. I never thought I could legitimately anti a holo but she proved me wrong

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Any fucking ark arc and Mori TT, most boring shit i ever see

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Off-collabs are literally never not cringe. I hate them.

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>>41131271
Nina's fucking luxiem leech arc was the worst. Luckily it seems she's back to just being an autist on games

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Thoses shitty Walk left simulator horror games

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>>41121812
You are right, i DO hate you, and you are retarded
Hololive did not improve the concept of vtubing since Sora was, let's be honest, a Kizuna Ai wannabe, Nijisanji is the one that shifted the vtubing landscape by turning Vtubers into Vstreamers, meaning that the content lasted longer, could be made daily, and you got to see more of the person behind the avatar since they didn't work with a script
All Hololive did was expand the market into the west, thanks to Coco and clippers

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>>41115132
Ark was only good during the Coco days because you could just watch Asacoco.

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Mori enthusiasm arc

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>>41147043
The Connor shit with Moona and Ollie too.

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>>41126220
Did you ever think that people just like pokemon

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>>41154842
the reskinned korone one was sort of amusing but yeah

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>>41155724
and there are also people that like apex, valorant, minecraft, etc.
doesnt deprive me of the right to complain

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>>41115132
Noal pandering to EOP audience to break 1 mil subs. After that she dropped them completely.

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>>41156974
Used and abused. We were the real whores all along.

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Enna-Kyo actually made me drop Nijisanji EN as a whole. Ark and Pokemon are special mentions. I also fucking hated when Sykkuno was trying hard to leech off Gura, thankfully he fucked off fairly quickly.

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>>41146208
Watching all the hololive rimworld streams made it unmistakably clear.
I can't respect a chuuba who only makes hallways one tile wide.

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>>41147043
>collabs with people nobody would ever choose to watch
>90% of the stream is organizing loot
>too focused to interact with chat even a tiny bit
god I hate modern FPS

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>>41157477
He's not done with hololive

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I like the JP pokemon arcs because a number of them actually play together and set up fun challenges and trades and battles. EN pokemon arcs suck because they all just play solo and go through all the same beats and routines on their own, most don't even bother to finish, and the ones that do finish the game grind the fuck out of it off stream so there's no actual stream content left.

The worst arc for me though is definitely the JP collective post-Myth "pander to EOPs to get to 1 million" arc that so many of them did. It was so blatant and obvious while they were doing it, and it became even worse when they all immediately dropped any and all attempts as soon as they hit it.

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>>41144928
Came here just to say this these games are a fucking cancer all we need is a fortnight arc and it'll be rounded out

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>>41115132
>hard mode: no minecraft
Hard mode would've been no ARK.

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>>41117829
They like it because cute and funny squid girl ToT
Also it has a low skill floor but high skill ceiling which japanese love

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Honestly for me, I think it was probably the Elden Ring meta or Pokemon in general.

The Elden Ring times were just all of them dying over and over and over and over again. Not much entertainment value in that live. Their excitement easily was shown in under 1 minute edited clips.

Pokemon, there just isn't much there. If you've seen Pokemon once, you've seen it every single time. It's not new, it's not exciting, it's just "Yep they're playing the same game again for the 20th time doing the exact same thing except this time their Pokemon is a turtle instead of a fire lizard." I absolutely can't stand Mori, but at least she tried to liven it up with a Nuzlocke here and there.

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>>41119309

Yeah, the "Ameway" only is fun to watch in short bursts, but things like Minecraft just don't lend themselves to her "I'm going to brute force this even if the end result is absolute dogshit." That goes for most of what she's done in Minecraft, from PPP to her potato farm. Sure, she didn't look at a guide, but she also doesn't actually USE the things she's built because they're shit.

Ame I think is a true gamer though, with true gamer salt in her heart. I feel like Vesper took the fall for losing his temper, but I honestly don't see what he said that was any different than the things Ame has, the only difference being she's a girl. Then again, his rage might have been off stream and a lot more aggressive, we'll never know.

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>>41147043
towa's friends are cool anon

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>>41121812

I agree with that. I also think that where Hololive is currently, that for the JP branch, if the people from Gen 0 - 3 were to apply as fresh new unknowns, that Suisei, Pekora, and Marine would probably be the only 3 who would make it through the audition process. Yes, that includes the OG Sora.

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>gets corrupted by Vshitjo to do tiktok reactions while chat spams loud unfunny meme sound effects

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>>41158453
this pokemon arc was actually really good, especially with sakamata cat and hogechi pain. definitely a lot better because of a new game, and not a total remake

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>>41115132
Nyanners NTR arc wins by far.

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>>41159910
qrd?

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>>41159659
Wait seriously? I haven't watched her in like a year. Please tell me this isn't true

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>>41119309
I’m a kyomie who also doesn’t like the enna collabs I’m sorry

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>>41115132
>Pomu
>Metal Gear

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>>41115132
Shiny hunting. Grinding is mindless on its own. Watching someone grind is even worse.

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>>41161321
metal gear streams were good to great prior though prior to v, but mgsv is indeed a snoozefest

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>>41158453
which JPs were pandering to EOPs? All I know of is Noel

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>>41115132
Every Pokemon arc. Each time a new Pokemon game comes out it takes over the schedule of almost every single chuuba and they struggle to squeeze entertaining content out of it because it's just the same fucking game over and over again and they can only stream it so many times before they run out of things to say about it and they just go through the motions since it's no longer fresh or exciting. Fuck Pokemon.

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>>41121812
Luna was and her roomate still is really fucking funny

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>>41115132
Kerin's neighbors
TamaSio's everything

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>>41126516
>channel deletion etc
Kiara had fun with her channel deletion and re-debuted. That wasn't a bad arc. It was fucking kino.

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>>41161208
I dont think she's done that lately but yeah. For a while she was just doing react content on Twitch.

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>>41115132
Holocure arc, it was unwatchable because of that suspect remix bgm on every stream drives me insane

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>>41161712
Noel, Haachama, Flare, Lui used to and Mel is currently pandering.

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>>41115132
Henry Stickmin arc, the first time it was ok because it was an old game with a lot of references but at the 15th member playing it it was a fucking snoozefest. Also I fucking hate those retards who were like ''dO thE jOJo'S sCeMNE''

I saw a lot of people saying that Chammers' schizo arc was the worst but tbf I'll give her a point for trying a different thing, also considering how things ended I can see why it declined and to be honest it wasn't her fault at all.

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>>41162464
Haachama always pandered to EOPs and never stopped afaik. I just checked and literally her last stream before she got Covid was in English.
Idk about Flare, I don't watch her.
Noel yeah was really blatant, more considering she was like going after Gura and after that there was not any mention of her.
Lui knows english too so I don't really complain as long she can communicate properly

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>>41162670
flare always does the "PLEASE GIVE HIGH RATING" after every stream. she's done it for years.

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>>41159602
Darusaka is unironically peak content, don’t try to pull them into this. She’s fucking Mainy anyways anon.

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>>41130176
It's ongoing, with no signs of stopping

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>>41162670
I thought Hachaama does an English stream every week because she speaks English? Is that really pandering at that point?

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>>41162694
Flare was translating and responding to English supers in 2019. Swear to fuck these newfags don’t do their reps on which girls have always been EOP friendly, then start talking shit.

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>>41162821
Nah, at least not for me. Also she hanged out with ENs too these days so it seems she really cares.

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A lot of you need to go back to /jp/

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>>41162889
Yea that’s what’s confusing me. It doesn’t seem like pandering if she’s literally fluent in English.

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>>41162878
Who have/are pandering to EOP in your opinion then?

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>>41163094
Imma be real with you, I’ve only really followed a handful of girls long enough to say. Noel and Marine are two good ones, maybe Watame, she was pretty /#/ for a while.

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>>41119631
she really thinks it was all worth it for some JP dick

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>Matsuri's APEXspam arc
>people frequently traumadumping in Watame's chat for a month or so arc
>Amyamya's and Sasaki's NijiEN fangirling arc(still ongoing, I recently started looking for other chuubas to replace them)
>the current GeoGuessr arc with so many corpo chuubas clearly pretending to be dumb to stall for stream time

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>>41126422
Holy ESL

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>>41163574
I feel you. Just curious, how was Watame a numberfag? I’ve only recently been watching her

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>>41155203
>Nijisanji
roru they only make vtubing worse, streaming is not alien concept since NND they don't do shit, only make it worse with their accelerate polluting vtubing with bunch of untalented whores, Hololive at least have a concept with their idol format which nowadays people trying to copy their format like 3d stage performance including Nijisanji but most of them are untalented so they are crying when they got told to sing and dance on stage

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>>41147043
>with a bunch of literally whos
Ehhh VSPO are small but the ones Towa play with aren't the shitters of that company. The same could be said for the CRs that Towa play with who probably have more relevancy than Towa in Japan.

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>>41162715
>Mainy
Couldn't she choose a high tier CR instead.

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>>41163873
>>the current GeoGuessr arc with so many corpo chuubas clearly pretending to be dumb to stall for stream time

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>>41162670
>Noel yeah was really blatant, more considering she was like going after Gura and after that there was not any mention of her.

watch streams clipnigger

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>>41161321
Only Pomu MGSV was dogshit due to a combination of the game being empty unfinished garbage and Pomu being retarded

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>>41117310
sounds like cope. Sans filtered you, huh. Did you have a bad time?

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I don't know if it has stopped but there was a time when redditards kept traumadumping shit to Holos in general. I think Gura's "MY DOG DIED LET'S GOOOOOOO" killed it which I'm happy about.

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>>41115132
Dragon Quest is the worst thing that ever happened to Lamy

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>>41166266
I don't think most people played Genocide Run

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>>41115132
Fubuki pokemon fishing. Most uncreative and boring shit ever.

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>>41119733
but jamp king open vc was the best mori content
ghost of the babe frustration did get painful to watch at a certain point though

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>>41166490
I disagree

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Obviously the EN homocollab arc, currently entering season two.

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>>41162553
Honestly, Chammers' schizo arc wasn't even a bad idea in itself.
It allowed her to go full creative, practice her video editing skills (she was really interested in that) and just do whatever she wants while getting an unique identity within Hololive, she was originally supposed to be a simple tsundere highschool girl after all.
But that arc dragged on for waaaay too long, months after months after months of nothing but schizo shit that went absolutely nowhere with no end in sight.
Still much better than Henry Stickmin though, I agree with you.

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>>41155635
At least moona wised up pretty quick and distanced herself, ollie's zoomer brain not so much... but she reclined and wasn't big enough for him to clout leech off her anymore so that one fixed itself

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>ctrl f holocaust
>0 results
How new are you people? The fucking permissions arc with weeks of nothing but shitty browser games and chillas art

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>>41164614
NTA, but it's overstated. In early 2020 she felt she was underperforming, specifically her music in watame no uta. Coco gave her some bad advice about just being grateful she's in Hololive rather than a 2-view indie. It has probably contributed to her being worried about shilling her music harder.

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>>41162553
>>41168259
The whole arc was her just pulling stuff out of her ass because she didn't know what she was doing. It just confused old fans and wasn't going anywhere.

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>>41145539
I say as someone who doesn't enjoy either of them, Ren is FAR FAR FAR more tolerable than Kyo. I can't think of someone who I find more fucking obnoxious than Kyo. Other than Luca but that's it's own tier

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>>41119309
It was Enna's fault. She hates you. If you didn't realize this before it happened, you're a cuck. If you haven't realized this now, you're still a cuck.

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>>41164664
Yes you dumb nigger, they DO make it worse, never said they didn't, what i said is that they changed the vtubing landscape way more than Hololive, for a long time seeing a Live2D model was almost synonimous with Nijisanji, even Kizuna Ai making that reference, Hololive JUST has the Idol format, which also makes things worse

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>>41115132
Rust arc killed Amesame and marked the beginning of HoloEN decline. Fuck this arc specifically

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>>41175894
might as well fire ethyria except millie and maaaybe nina but i would probably just want to rewrite the timeline wherein she's given a year's worth of VTA and she debuts as the surprisingly good streamer she is today instead of having to become luxiem's cumdump and a cunt in general first as she was

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>>41168918
The Holocaust wasn't Holo's fault at least. JP copyright holders are the jewest jews to ever jew.

[Anonymous No.]

Amegeddon and holocaust were really funny to witness, but were objectively bad. After those, the "say ara ara" Arc was when I realized Hololive was just Reddit and stopped watching them

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>>41115391
This. I quit watching Hololive altogether shortly after Coco got the Ark shit going.

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>>41177506 (me)
meant "say ara ara" AND "say hi honey". Memoryholed the second one

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>>41161948
It was an unfavorable arc. Good on her for making the best of a bad situation. But I'm sure she wouldn't want it happening again.

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>>41176094
nah the idol is a good thing because it makes vtubing more than just streamer with anime avatar and music aspect in vtubing is already exist since old days with the like of Tokino Sora,Fuji Aoi etc which definitely improve vtubing to not limited to YouTube or such and it doesn't pollute the industry with bunch of untalented streamer

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>>41177831
Learn english

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>>41146291
Finana deserves her place in Lazulight. She's naturally cute and fits into her role. Aside from the trap yab, she's a steady, cute bimbo personality.
That said, the gacha streams do make her worthless

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>>41178015
>no argument
kys larper

[Anonymous No.]

>>41172117
That’s unfortunate. Her music is plenty good enough to not have to shill so much

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>>41177831
>it doesn't pollute the industry with bunch of untalented streamer
And yet those untalented streamers are currently at the top of the food chain. Hiring former camwhores and presenting them as idols is what killed vtubing.

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>>41179958
they actually try and practice then perform tho, so idol is a good thing, unlike whores who do nothing different than before only now with anime avatar

[Anonymous No.]

>>41115337
>Tenma's Offline TV collab spam arc
context? don't watch tenma I'm curious what all of these words mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>41115132
Rushia's Nazuna arc. I hate it.

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>>41179958
Please don't make arguments with obvious unwashed SEA ESLs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>41115391
It's literally only Kotoka. I'm pretty sure it's just too much of a commitment for everyone else.

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A lot of people are saying rust but that really depends on who your oshi is. Ame, Mori? Ranging from bad to actually miserable. Fauna? tiny and uneventful but good overall. Gura? Generally kino with a tiny sour note in literally the last 5 minutes of the entire thing. Most JPs? Ranging from good to godlike kino.
Of course, I'm talking about Season 2, I have no idea what happened in Season 3 and did they even do season 4?

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>>41115132
Taiwan arc.

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>>41117310
It's a pretty solid game. Like I'm not a huge fan but it certainly isn't bad.

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When Russia retired and all the other girls were like "yeah fuck that bitch" kind of felt a little out of place, especially in contrast to Coco. Especially since most of them avoided Coco until they could leech. The statement "women are likable if you enforce strict guidelines on them" becomes really obvious in situations like those.

>>41117500
She still hasn't broken 1 million and really wanted to but I don't know if he's thinking of the same point. Merely that Flare has always been kind of insecure because the other members of sankisei are either semi-retired or numberfagging to infinity while she's comfortably in the middle of the hololive pack.

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>women closing in on middle age playing videogames as anime teenagers
Everything about vtubing has become uncomfortable for me kek.

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>>41180789
Maybe holomems wouldn't have been so cold to Rushia if she hadn't actively tried to screw them over to "save" her own reputation, which is a bullshit excuse considering her fans are still as dedicated to her as ever

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>>41180668
>Season 3
A bunch of them quit midway due to reasons (like Suisei having throat surgery, Pekora quitting midway because she actually got bored and she already reached her peak by the end of Season 2, Matsuri / Choco getting busy for the most of season and most of gamblers like Fubuki an Flare not playing anymore because gambling was no longer fresh) - there was some great stuff like Miko; Colosseum, Koyori's Shooting Room and Polka's Battle Royale as well as Matsuri and Choco versus Kanata (with Kanata ending up the last boss of Season 3). Well, there was also Luna doing farming and IDs trying to do stuff (but season was too dead, so Kaela and Anya didn't do much in the end).
Season 4 was super dead because there was only like 6-7 people playing in total (even Miko had to quit because she became busy with MC Sports Fes) and it was mostly carried by Kanata and Luna.
Current "season 5" of Rust is being played by only three people: Kanata, Luna and Kaela (and even then penguin didn't stream RUST for the last week or two).

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>>41180505
she was regularly collabing with the otv fags but stopped when she realized they only kept her around to be their loud esl funny lady. she later said she no longer wants to do anything with a channel that's significantly larger than hers

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>>41181154
at least she got the message

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>>41180913
Yeah sounds like they should have let that one rest.
I think, maybe later this year, with a rethought ruleset and a new (better) island map, it could be fun again. Maybe mods if they can ever get permissions for mods working. No mod permissions is one of the dumbest problems at Hololive, they really should have a bunch of mods for games...

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>>41115132
Any Nintendo game

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>>41115132
Fubuki's over-a-year-long FXIV arc has slashed her ccv for her other content by half. she's barely at 5k for the FF streams.

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>>41179958
What's killing vtubing is literally every twitch thot and bluehair landwhale trying to jump in the pool to trend chase
>I'm utterly talentless and uninteresting. I'll just commission a L2D!

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>>41177289
I would say they were naive though. Being the top dogs they have a mountain of antis hate-watching them like a hawk, ready to mass report anything. That's what kicked off the holocaust, nijiniggers mass reporting Mio for using an emulator. Sure she should have known better but any other JP corpo or indie and it would have flown under the radar

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>>41146208
I was dying during Reine's member stream of the cat organization game. It was a simple patterns and puzzle thing and she just brute forced a decent chunk of them. Women are just bad with shit like this. Sometimes it's funny, but if the whole stream is that it's pretty not fun.

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>>41181230
I dunno why Season 4 ever happened because it was obvious by the end of Season 3 that either nothing new was happening OR good ideas were wasted due to lack of people - at least with Season 4 it was announced that it'll be the last one.
IIRC current pseudo-season happened only because Luna tried out several 3D farming / crafting games but eventually asked management to launch RUST server because hime really wanted to grow some pumpkins. Kanata also plays it because she always supports Luna plus she's also RUST autist. And Kaela really tried to play RUST like MC but every season it didn't work well and she just keep going back to MC instead. I also remember Anya saying "man, it's too bad RUST is over, but then Luna brought it back, maybe I should play it again" only for her to not play it (I think she played only once during this pseudo-season?)
Season 1 was great because everyone was new to it, nobody tried to minmax and people just did random stuff, from gambling to fishing to doing raids.
Season 2 was great because people actually started to make well-designed bases (like Polka's Cave or Pekora's Water Fortress) and started investing in research table, which eventually led to a lot of fun PvP and raids.
Season 3 was bad because map was garbage, like half of holomems stopped playing and almost every raid was bugged out and had no enemy NPCs. Plus new rule on "don't make too powerful bases" clearly killed Pekora's interest in playing RUST further - she even let her huge tall walls around her desert base deteriorate.
Season 4 was dead because, again, only like 6-7 people were playing (even with good map and non-bugged raids), so depending on holomem schedule they could easily play all alone for entire stream, and where the fun in that?

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>>41158228
I feel kinda bad for Mori. She gets used and abused by expats because she got popular enough. I really hope their friendship is more than a buisness venture for those faggots and that once Holo dies down for her, they actually remain friends instead of dumping her to the curb like they did Ollie.

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>>41180668
noel barely participated in RUST so i had little to care about. season 3 and 4 was basically just luna kanata haato and kaela. again, when I barely watched RUST, i have little to talk about.

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>>41181882
>feel kinda bad for Mori
don't. if anything she deserves the flack she gets for trying to juggle two streamers.

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>>41172211
You gotta considerate the circumstances, that many people asking for more schizo isn't easy to handle. Also there was also the whole situation with Coco which las straw was her announcing graduation, it was a huge impact for Chammers who was already being stressed with her failing grades in uni, having a guilt trip because of the whole taiwan yab and feeling like she had to keep that audience. All of this while being 18-19 years old btw

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>>41131271
>any time they start bringing out Duolingo
Coco's two or three Spanish Duolingo streams were comfy fun. I don't know any Spanish, and she didn't overdo them, so it was a nice bite sized stretch of fun. It also had minor novelty for not being JP doing English.

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>>41177831
And tell me anon, what does being talented at singing and dancing have to do with streaming?
Sure, having Vsingers back in the day was fun and a novelty, but it means less when everyone is doing it, and when that singer is not an entertaining streamer, or are you gonna tell me that AZKi is the pinnacle of vtubing because of how talented she is?
I would honestly preffer 10 entertaining streamers over 1 "She is a good singer" any fucking day

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>>41159420
Yeah thats whats kinda sad about the whole thing. In the end PPP doesnt actually function.Its so far out of the way that the only good thing that came out of it was the zatsudans waiting to get there/charge it. I thik the sheer amunt of work she put into it only for it to basically not fuction hurt her interest in MC alot so only Ina/Kiara were playing