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40656162 No.40656162 [Reply] [Original]

Surely you're not that parasocial, right?

>> No.40656276

>>40656162
She is not my girlfriend so i dont care it would be fun to watch

>> No.40656366 [DELETED] 

Isn't it a bit late to be running Kronigger damage control?

>> No.40656444

>>40656162
I literally don't care and people who claim they do are shitposters. I would know, i've posed as a unicorn before for (you)'s.

>> No.40656454

>>40656162
You don't even know what that word means, moron.

>> No.40656510

>>40656162
Yes and I would be and you're a redditor who needs to go back

>> No.40656532

>>40656162
Yes, a little bit

>> No.40656583

>>40656162
Yes because im a loser who thinks male collabs= sex

>> No.40656597

depends on who
i wouldn't mind if she collabed with peanuts-kun if ponpoko-chan was also there

>> No.40656604

>>40656162
When you go to a strip club do you pay the bouncer to get up there on the stage and strip with the stripper? If no you should understand people want to see their oshi pandering to them is what they fucking pay for and what she signed up for.

>> No.40656632

yes because i would get jealous

>> No.40656677
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40656677

Yes i would, thankfully my oshi never streams

>> No.40656712
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40656712

Imagine trying to explain to your girlfriend that she isn't allowed to talk to guys at work (for any reason) or you'll leave her.

>> No.40656725

>>40656604
But im f2p

>> No.40656737

>>40656454
A parasocial relationship is a relationship between two people where Person A is really attached to Person B, but Person B is unaware of Person A's existence. The term is used primarily in the context of relationships between fans and popular media figures, including, but not limited to, vtubers.

>> No.40656776

>>40656712
I think these guys never had a girlfriend

>> No.40656790

I dropped my previous oshi because she hosted a group collab with Tempus. There were other issues at hand but that was the real trigger.

>> No.40656808
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40656808

>>40656162
My oshi will not collab with males.

>> No.40656813
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40656813

The Holostars and niggisanji are Fujobait and inherently using sex to appeal to people. Therefore they aren't something I want to watch.
Normal people like Yagoo or the card tourneys that have been done before? No one cared about those males because they're normal.
Now if Dagoth Ur collabed with our oshis just to remind them that he is a god and inherently better than all of them, and that we should unsub from their channels and follow his dream streams, well, who would say no to that? No one.

>> No.40656817

Considering how much of an introvert she is, I'd be impressed and proud of her

>> No.40656820

The second they did so they would no longer be my oshi.

>> No.40656878

>>40656604
I don't think most vtuber fans are paying for any sense of exclusivity or whatever. Whenever you see "drama" surrounding a collab between female vtuber and a male vtuber, it's almost always a vocal minority complaining while the majority laughs at or ignores them.

>> No.40656890

>>40656162
Yes. Because I genuinely don't want to hear a bunch of whiney talentless faggots in my cute girl streams.
If you want that shit just watch NijiEN.

>> No.40656908

>>40656737
If you have an "oshi" you're deep into parasocialism, you can't have an oshi if you're not parasocial

>> No.40656983

>>40656162
My oshi is a idol not a whore so I didn't need to worry about it

>> No.40657043

>>40656878
And the girls get their revenue from a minority of their fans, normal socially adjusted people don't go buying dakis and mouse pads

>> No.40657064

>>40656878
The majority of the fanbase subbed to HoloEN to watch cute girls and doesn't give a single fuck about homoshits.
The loud minority are the trannies pushing for males and mixed collabs when they don't even watch streams or support the talents, as proved by the recent dogshit debuts.
>>40656908
Oshi just means favorite you fag.

>> No.40657120 [DELETED] 

>>40657064
NOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND "oshi" MEANS I'M GOING TO MARRY HER AND SHE CAN'T TALK TO ANY PENIS HAVERS BUT ME (ignore that she talks to thousands of them every stream, I'm the one she's going to pick I know it).

>> No.40657134
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40657134

>>40656908
You can have an oshi without thinking that you're in some sort of exclusive relationship that would be ruined by the slightest interaction with a person of the opposite sex. I should clarify that parasocial relationships aren't inherently bad, it's mostly just bad when attached to a media figure to the point of it being unhealthy for either you or the media figure. Like buying merch of your oshi is 100% ok, but sending her death threats because she *allegedly* has a boyfriend in real life is not.

>> No.40657142

>>40657064
>Oshi just means favorite you fag.
Average ENfan

>> No.40657176

>>40656878
Yeah but let's be real second did we really needed a second wave of tempus? I'm a vesper and axel fan and I feel like it was too early. There's still more the boys could've accomplished like getting an outfit change or 3D model before new wave of tempus was introduced while the EN branch is stagnant because the girls are getting burnt out from streaming with also having to deal with incompetent managers who just sit on their asses 80% of the times as a result a lot of projects just sit on their desks unread and nothing gets green lit which in return demoralizes the girls. If Tempus 2 had debuted after HoloEn3 i think most people would've been happier.

>> No.40657207

>>40657134
>You can have an oshi without thinking that you're in some sort of exclusive relationship that would be ruined by the slightest interaction with a person of the opposite sex.
So you don't understand what parasocialism is then? Because that isn't the only state of parasocial

>> No.40657221

>>40657064
>The majority of the fanbase subbed to HoloEN to watch cute girls and doesn't give a single fuck about homoshits.
The presence of boys doesn't negate the presence of cute girls.

>> No.40657234 [DELETED] 

>>40656162
You will be a cuck
And YOU WILL LIKE IT
OK?

>> No.40657237

>>40656983
newfag retard

>> No.40657257 [DELETED] 

>>40657120
>NOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND "oshi" MEANS I'M GOING TO MARRY HER AND SHE CAN'T TALK TO ANY PENIS HAVERS BUT ME (ignore that she talks to thousands of them every stream, I'm the one she's going to pick I know it).
Yes anon you're very intelligent, you're so smart for noticing something that literally everybody knows since the inception of the word in idol culture, holy shit how could people not realize this? You're a sage of wisdom

>> No.40657259

>>40657234
This but unironically. It's the fate of anyone who prioritizes watching an anime girl wiggle on their screen over their own life.

>> No.40657289

>>40657234
How insecure are you?

>> No.40657407

>>40657176
I'm going to be dead ass with you. I really don't give a shit about Tempus gen 2. While I don't have much interest in watching them, I don't have a problem with Hololive having more boys. That said, I do think it might be nice if Hololive EN brought in some more girls too, but I am not in a big hurry.

>>40657207
I just said that there are both healthy and unhealthy forms of parasocialism. Just don't get too obsessive you'll generally be fine.

>> No.40657436

>>40656162
What does parasociality have to do with that shit?
Are you aware that by calling male vtubers bros you're also being parasocial with them?

>> No.40657472

>>40657289
Oh no a woman callled me insecure I guess I better except a worse product now. Do your jobs and maintain your kayfabe.

>> No.40657477

/vt/ definition of parasocial:
>knows what live streaming is

>> No.40657485

>>40656162
you clock faggots got handed the perfect oshi to mold into something great and you fuck it up.

>> No.40657528

>>40656162
I'm plenty parasocial, but platonic.
I love when the guys and girls collab.

>> No.40657531

>>40657472
Accept a worse product

>> No.40657550

>>40656162
I would be extremely bothered.

>> No.40657581

>>40657407
I don't have a problem with it either i just feel like it was too early to debut a new branch of males considering the state HLEN is.

>> No.40657592

>>40656162
My oshi does a lot of collabs with males and females. Two of her most common collab partners are married men (not married to each other, they both have wives.) It's quite scandalous.

>> No.40657630

>>40656162
HoloKEK

>> No.40657633

>>40657528
You can get medical help if you are asexual anon.

>> No.40657635

>>40657436
>Are you aware that by calling male vtubers bros you're also being parasocial with them?
Parasociality has a spectrum. Watching your favorite vtuber everday and donating superchats here and there is fine, but thinking she's your girlfriend and feeling "cucked" when she interacts with a man is not.

>> No.40657662

>>40656712
For 2 year they watching Simpson and you wondering why people hate when they turn into family guy.

>> No.40657683

>>40657064
>unicorns who oppose any male-female collabs
Vocal minority
>"holopro" fans who want to tear down the boundaries and destroy le evil idol culture
Vocal minority
>hololive fans who are ambivalent towards tempus but really just want to see EN3
Silent majority

The problem is that EN management is run by people in the second group.

>> No.40657691

no. they all collabed in PL. i don't like collabs in general

>> No.40657704

>>40657662
Keep up those English classes.

>> No.40657712

>>40657635
That’s something the consumer gets to decide not you.

>> No.40657717

>>40657043
Said minority are also so desperate they still give them money anyways.
The complainers at most, members. Not the ones donating daily ak asupers.

>> No.40657726

>>40657472
>>40657531
>phoneposter retard
every time

>> No.40657736

>>40657635
And thinking he's your "bro" isn't either?
Did you know that plenty of people just don't want to see male vtubers and don't delude themselves about being the boyfriend of a vtuber who streams for thousands of people? Is that being parasocial for you too?

>> No.40657770
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40657770

Mine has.
She's even talked about wanting to introduce her chat to her boyfriend or girlfriend if she ever gets one.
And gone into some depth about what she finds appealing in both men and women.

>> No.40657771

>>40656817
No she not, she been talking to Tech support guy even before they debut

>> No.40657778

>>40657726
Ipad poster atm.

>> No.40657797

I'm extremely parasocial but I only watch girls that I trust won't bang all their coworkers, if you are scared of a male chuba fucking your oshi you just chose a bad oshi

>> No.40657818

>>40656162
As long as theres no flirting involved. But tbqh watching strangers flirt repulses me in general.

>> No.40657831

>>40656276
Counterpoint, i’m here to watch cute girls doing cute things, it has nothing to do with her not being my girlfriend, it ruins the vibe of the content and it often times becomes a regular thing, kronii being a prime example, so i’m against it

>> No.40657882

>>40657831
Watch good streamers who don't need to spam collabs

>> No.40657897

>>40657717
>Said minority are also so desperate they still give them money anyways.
Yes but it's funny seeing people going on a war against unicorns when paypigs are the most pathetic bunch of people and by far the most parasocial people of all, but having no standards whatsoever and having no control of your money is good apparently

>> No.40657910

>>40656162
Is not what I watch hololive for

>> No.40657917

I want to make edited version without homos in it

>> No.40657949

>>40657726
>>40657778
I also have a macbook pro and a high-end gaming pc if that would make it better. I just bought as RTX 4090 too. But I wont pay a cent to bitches that collab with men.

>> No.40657970

>>40656162
>m-muh paraoscialism!
even from a consumer perspective without any hint of personal feelings, I simply tuned in for over two years and supported a kind of content, now they are trying to change it to appeal to a loud minority of morons who HATE that kind of content to begin with, of course I'm against it.
>y-you're just an incel!
how the fuck can you push the narrative that watching gay anime boys play MC and Apex Legends is what virile and healthy hetero dudes do? Even more now that they are pandering harder than ever to the fujo crowd with the new hires?

>> No.40658026

>>40657712
I don't understand what that has to do anything. If a consumer decided to consume in an unhealthy way, it's still unhealthy.

>>40657736
>And thinking he's your "bro" isn't either?
As long as you don't actually think he's your best friend, it should be ok. Just having fun with a chill streamer bro is fine.
>Did you know that plenty of people just don't want to see male vtubers and don't delude themselves about being the boyfriend of a vtuber who streams for thousands of people? Is that being parasocial for you too?
I'm sure there's some people like that, but that's not what I am talking about. I don't that is parasocial, or at least not the really unhealthy sort.

>> No.40658033 [DELETED] 

Hololive bros... we are cucks now

>> No.40658035

>>40657717
Cute theory but history shows that isn’t true, frequent donators are the most parasocial… most people who support them normally stop at a membership

>> No.40658037

>>40657221
You can keep telling yourself that, but people have preference. Minimum male presence is still a preference. Even vox-reimu drama show how fujo don't like it.

>> No.40658039

Do I care if they collab? I'd prefer they didnt collab with people I have no interest in watching but other than that no.

However if they asked me if I wanted them to collab with thse people I have no interest in watching and I said no and they then turned around an attacked me for answering the question they asked me and got management to issue a statement against me and rallied twitter activists against me because I had the temerity to answer the question I was asked, I would think they were a complete cunt.

>> No.40658144

>>40657917
Honest question, why do so many people on this board refer to male vtubers as "homos"? Is there something inherently gay about being a male vtuber but not a female vtuber? If so, shouldn't that negate any worries about getting "cucked" by them?

>> No.40658165

>>40657770
We know, and then she cry that every zomrade that she know are leaving her, and she alluding to quiting.

>> No.40658218

>>40658144
Uhh yeah… pretending to be an anime character is inherently a little gay, but the girls being cute makes up for it… the guys on the other hand don’t have that advantage so it’s just plain gay

>> No.40658239

>>40657970
>>y-you're just an incel!
Who are you quoting?

>> No.40658255

>>40658144
Because "homo" is only one letter off from "holo".
The "NOOO WE'RE GETTING KEKED" posters are doing it just to stir shit and get (you)s. None of them actually think like this or even watch streams.

>> No.40658291

>>40657176
Gen 2 is really weird because it’s confirmed that it was going to be a 6 wave at first but something with management changed
They decided that they didn’t want that but also didn’t want to leave the 2 already in to wait a crazy long time so they made a second gen

>> No.40658317

>>40658144
Because they were called homostars in /jp/, that's it

>> No.40658319

>>40658255
>None of them actually think like this
Anon...

>> No.40658373

>>40658319
You're telling me the majority of posters on this board are mentally ill idiots way too attached to a giggling cartoon on their screen like some sort of autistic child?

>> No.40658387

>>40658255
Actually I'm an Unicorn and I fucking hate Holocucks and male collabs too
Thanks

>> No.40658391

>>40658291
>wave
sister...

>> No.40658433

>>40658317
This, it's a good way to filter newfags and tourists

>> No.40658479

>>40658218
>Uhh yeah… pretending to be an anime character is inherently a little gay
What's gay about it? What if your vtuber avatar is fairly masculine?
>the girls being cute makes up for it… the guys on the other hand don’t have that advantage so it’s just plain gay
I'm sure there's women who would find them cute

>>40658255
>The "NOOO WE'RE GETTING KEKED" posters are doing it just to stir shit and get (you)s. None of them actually think like this or even watch streams.
I don't know man, the Rushia antis seemed pretty serious to me...

>>40658373
>You're telling me the majority of posters on this board are mentally ill idiots way too attached to a giggling cartoon on their screen like some sort of autistic child?
NTA but yes, or at least a vocal minority

>> No.40658558

>>40658479
>What's gay about it? What if your vtuber avatar is fairly masculine?
Maimoto who people use as an example of a "masculine" vtuber was drawn by a yaoi artist

>> No.40658564

>>40656162
No
I don’t like collabs much in general and I don’t like every girl because they’re a girl
If there’s any collab that isn’t music/performance related 9/10 I will skip

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40658566

>>40658373
And yet here you are, arguing about something you obviously don't care about while trying to defend gay anime boys.
I'm sure you're a very cool and succesful individual twitterchama.

>> No.40658594

>>40656162
>watching males
That's gay, Senpai.

>> No.40658620

>>40656604
This is a retarded take. That person is stripping for other men while you aren't watching. If you were this theoretical person going to strip clubs, you'd be ok with male collabs because you could just not watch the streams.

>> No.40658653

>>40658373
You're here crying because people dont want to watch some fag literally called Gayass Buttsex

>> No.40658730

>>40658566
Is Twitter in the room with us right now?

>> No.40658799

>>40656162
I'd be bothered if my oshi collabed with a male chuuba and luckily she'd be bothered by it too. So she'll never do it.

>> No.40658836

>>40658730
Half of this thread isn't even hiding the fact that they are tourists. I know it you know it. You don't even watch the homofaggots and here you are defending them against the evil parasocial unicorns.

>> No.40658951

>>40658653
Cool projection.

>> No.40659072

>>40656162
I'm bothered because these boring and irritating whores are ruining my alone time with the boys. Nothing to do with parasocial, they are just bad streamers. Get them the fuck away and let them pander to their paypig GFE crowd instead of ruining good streams.
I know I'm not the only person who thinks like this. When the Kronii Mori Magni Nowa monopoly collab got announced a lot of /MANS/ posters decided they would skip the collab because Kronii and Mori just ruin streams. It would be so much better as a full HQ collab, what the fuck were they thinking? Can only imagine the clock whore was pawing at a chance to stream with Vesper again, she can't stay out of his DMs and wants to ruin it for vesties.

>> No.40659075

>>40658653
It's fine for sisters to lust for a gay pedobait shota and if you don't watch him you're obviously an unicorn incel.

>> No.40659564

this same post is made 20 times a day
get new material

>> No.40659600

Holostars are manbait using beer to appeal to men

>> No.40659836

>>40656276
Based.

>> No.40659857

>>40656444
>people who claim they do are shitposters
really wish i could tell myself that but poe's law is unfortunately a thing

>> No.40659909

No, they're coworkers, if you think your oshi is a slut or a whore who sleeps with every man she meets you have mental problems.

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40659915

>>40656162
I would 100% no longer want to fuck her and I would never call her cute in her chat again, if I ever watched again it would be at least 6 months later.
She can do what she wants but so can I.

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40660007

My Oshi collabed with a male today and it was KINO

>> No.40660044

>>40659072
Heh Mori and Kronii are way funnier than Regis and Axel and they have good chemistry with both Vesper and Magni

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40660223

>>40656162
Nope, its fine.
Thoses males have gay voices though, and not in a cute way.

>> No.40660303

She already did and it was hilarious. As I recall, the guy also ended up traumatizing twenty other vtubers, to the point that they made a hashtag for it on Twitter. Fun times all around.

>> No.40660318 [DELETED] 

>>40649230
>Calls him Regis and it's always begging for collabs.
It's most likely a dramabaiter.

>> No.40660409

>>40659915
based

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>>40656162
If the collab is kino, then it's kino.
If it's cringe, then it's cringe.
Simple as.

>> No.40660452

>>40656162
I dont care. I watch this shit for the content and as distraction while cleaning my flat/doing sport.

People who watch this stuff for romance/connection are lying to themselves and would have better time just going outside and findings friends/girls there.

>> No.40660453

The root of the problem is that western vtubers are such thirsty, lonely and broken people. Nobody cares when the JP Holostars collab with Suisei or Fubuki because they're all professionals. But if chumbuds are paranoid that Gura would end up unironically imprinting on Vesper live on stream I can't blame them.

>> No.40660586

>>40658037
>Even vox-reimu drama show how fujo don't like it.
Justifying it with other mental illness isn't really a good way to validate that thought pattern. But I agree that M/F solo content or 1+1 collabs are typically best, I think larger cross collabs only work with larger scale games, or maybe if they actually did something like a boys vs. girls competitive play.
I'd actually like to see something like Worms again with entertaining commentary over two teams trying to win.

>> No.40660588

>>40656712
If this kind of people someway get a girlfriend, i fell bad for the girl...

>> No.40660656

>>40660453
Your common reddit or twitter EN fans are really superficial. They will just be all, isn't this cute and tete and not even care about the content of the stream and chumbuds would lose it.

>> No.40660732

"I don't like collabs anyway" Is this a EN thing or something? I love when my fav holo, niji or vspo collabs with each other. It's the cool part of having a company full of fun people.

>> No.40660743

>>40660588
Reminds me of a youtube video where some faggot was asking people on the street if it would be fine for their partner to have a friend of the opposite sex at their house.
The girls thought it would be inappropriate for their boyfriend to do so but not themselves.

>> No.40660808

>>40656712
>>40660588
Imagine your girlfriend telling you she was going to ignore you to hang out with some guys from work for a weekend and telling you she can do whatever the hell she wants and you arent allowed to complain and you being ok with that
I mean of course you would because you're a spineless cuck but no normal person would be

>> No.40660822

>>40660743
Women are contrarians you should know by now. Just ask a woman what could she bring to the table and watch them melt down.

>> No.40660831

>>40660743
I also saw a video were a blind guy knocked everyone's laptop into a river. One kid was nice to the blind man and got a new laptop. This is also real.

>> No.40660875

>>40660831
Yours sounds made up

>> No.40660877

>>40660808
Seek mental help

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40660886

>>40660808
But then you realize she wasn't your girlfriend at all, she just started living in your house and taking tenners from your wallet every week

>> No.40660901

>>40660808
Imagine if you called a stranger your girlfreind and got mad at them for talking to males. That would be weird huh?

>> No.40660959

>>40660877
>>40660886
>>40660901
actual drooling retards who didnt read >>40656712

>> No.40660962

>>40660875
Do you think youtube videos may be staged? Wild!

>> No.40660986

>>40660901
It would be but his was a hypothetical situation that is a parable for vtubers, yours is based on nothing

>> No.40661060

>>40660986
A vtuber is closer to a stranger than a girlfriend though

>> No.40661063

>>40658239
the voices in their head. its what happens when they forget their meds.

>> No.40661101

>>40660901
As weird as donating hundreds of dollars to a random internet girl, but hey that's encouraged behaviour since it benefits a woman

>> No.40661143

>>40656162
Yes. Mostly because of the ensuing shitposts. I just want to watch my cute-tarded oshi in peace.

>> No.40661176 [DELETED] 

Liberals: we should all respect everyone opinions and treat them as equal
Also liberals kill yourself you fucking incel unicorn faggot how dare you have you have your own opinions I don't agree with.

>> No.40661215

>>40661060
So? A relationship is usually just a verbal contract of exclusivity.
Why would you want exclusivity? Because you love them.
Life is generally about love.
You might think stomping on that is appropriate. I don't.

>> No.40661258

>>40661215
friendship isn't about exclusivity

>> No.40661260

>>40660743
>>40660808
>partner
>girlfriend
>alone in their house
wtf. take your meds.
a collab, is like having a dinner to talk about job. oh... forget it... you guys don't know what human interaction is.

>> No.40661263 [DELETED] 

>>40661176
liberals don't stand for anything, so can't blame them for just doing whatever and having no morals

>> No.40661283

>>40661258
Let's not get cute, you know fine well what I meant by relationship.

>> No.40661298

>>40661283
don't see how it applies to vtubers

>> No.40661326

>>40661260
Are we pretending again that vtuber streams are in any way similar to normal social interaction or that vtuber watchers have a normal social life?

>> No.40661349

>>40661298
Do you think it's weird that people unironically love their oshi?

>> No.40661383

>>40661326
then don't imply that your "oshi" is your girlfriend to justify your messed up behaviour. because, what a surprise, having a girlfriend is a normal social interaction.

>> No.40661416

>>40656162
I wouldn't call a woman who collabs with males my oshi so I'll never have this problem.

>> No.40661446

>>40661349
yeah if it's unironic romantic love

>> No.40661462

>>40661260
You have never been in a relationship, you only have woke twitter ideas of what a relationship is like

>> No.40661473

>>40661446
Well, I think it's weird not to. Barely human.

>> No.40661611

>>40661462
its because i have a relationship for almost a decade that i laugh at this parasocial behaviour

>> No.40661636

>>40661383
There's nothing to justify, holos do not only act like gamers or vtubers, they're also idols. It's the trifecta of abnormal female behaviour that could only attract abnormal males

>> No.40661637

>>40661611
liar

>> No.40661703

>>40661611
I hope you're not implying you're not parasocial on the vtuber board defending the actions of someone you're totally not parasocial about

>> No.40661804

>>40661416
You have enough mental problems already

>> No.40661845

>>40656162
if i want my oshi to collab with males and brake my immersion of cute girl from another dimension doing cute girly stuff than i will be a ninji fan

>> No.40661859

If they start flirting like Kyo and Enna or Kronii in every collab, then that vtuber stop existing for me, if it's just a normal collab, then I don't care unless it's ultra cringe or a spam of mentions of him on every stream. So, yes a little bit? I haven't watched a single stream from Kronii since then, just the last ASMR one and it just seemed like a asmr for vesper desu

>> No.40661864

>>40661804
Anon gets to decide how he spends his time and money. Your opinion is irrelevant.

>> No.40661865

>>40661611
Let me guess, you're in a relationship with an ugly fat whale that controls every single aspect of your life right? You're one of THOSE dudes who think that getting engaged is their biggest achievement in life, which is why your only argument is calling everyone who disagrees with you an incel.
>projection
your entire arguments so far are projections, no matter how hard I try to explain to you trannies why I don't wanna watch anime gay faggots you retards always go with the whole "she's not your girlfriends" spiegel.

>> No.40661938

>>40661611
cuck relationships dont count,, especially not "open" ones

>> No.40662092

>>40661864
Hopefully he spends it on therapy

>> No.40662126

>>40662092
Says the tranny

>> No.40662129

>>40656162
no
and no

>> No.40662298

>>40661865
oh no, you got me. i'm sad now.

>I don't wanna watch anime gay faggots
saying this is way more healthy than the "she is cucking me" bullshit. just don't watch, instead of losing the remaing hair you have just because she did her job.

>> No.40662350

>>40662126
>Rent free
Why are you so obsessed with them?

>> No.40662391

>>40662350
Delusion. Act masculine or get called a tranny, simple as.

>> No.40662427

>>40657142
lurk moar

>> No.40662443

>>40656162
Yes, It's something I have no interest in watching and so far for the last 4 years my oshi always takes in consideration what her fans want and wish when it comes to deciding what to stream so I would be fucking surprised and honestly worried if she decides to ignore and upset most of her fans just to "play with a coworker".

>> No.40662457

>>40656162
No because I'm not an obsessive posessive freak

>> No.40662463
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40662463

He already collabs with male chuubas, so no.

>> No.40662509

>>40662427
In the EN board that's barely 2 years old? Very funny anon

>> No.40662536

>>40662350
because you ruin everything you touch, including yourselves

>> No.40662718

>>40662298
Just the dont watch the chuuba at all and end all financial support immediately pour encourager les autre. Dont pay for an inferior product.

>> No.40662834

>>40656162
I'm inclined to because shitposters will cuckpost about it from that point onwards, forever, if it ever happens and that will annoy me. So yes I would be bothered. I also wouldn't watch it

>> No.40662915

>>40662536
Do something productive with your life instead of being a schizo

>> No.40663024

>>40662834
>He cares about retarded shitposters
Sucks to be you

>> No.40663046

>>40662915
we're on /vt/
its not like people here are good in being productive

>> No.40663076

>>40662509
lurk moar

>> No.40663108

>>40656162
My oshi's already in NijiEN.
It's inevitable, so you either somehow drown it all out, or you don't care if they collab with males.

>> No.40663130

>>40662915
I do and I have to deal with you people causing trouble every god damn day

>> No.40663221

>>40662915
do something reproductive, haha jk bro, sorry about the loss of your cock

>> No.40663223

>>40663024
Then why even post in this site

>> No.40663462

>>40662834
Shitposters doing the Lord’s work keeping chuubas on the straight and narrow.

>> No.40663840

>>40658836
I watch vesper and plan on catching some Hakka, otherwise the men I watch are mostly indies

>> No.40663874

>>40663840
>men

>> No.40663917

>>40656162
Yes, because I don't want to watch male streamers, I want to watch my oshi. I don't like same sex collabs either. I clicked on my oshi's stream, I want to watch her, not someone else.

>> No.40664146

>>40656162
If it's a one-off, who cares.

If it's a Kronii situation where it becomes a staple, then she can go be someone else's oshi.

And evidence says 95% of EN chuubas either don't collab with homos or whore out all the other way, so it's not a great sign.

>> No.40664476

>>40656162
I wouldn't if there were other stream to watch, cause i can't cringe more than having to watch fags. So since hololive don't fill the gap and i have nothing to do i'll shit on the thing, that's not parasocial relationship, that is getting bored because the absence of quality content.

>> No.40664817

>>40656162
No, but I am mainly here for CGDCT. I don't mind the odd collab. (The amount of Tempus collabs in the first two months was way too much.)

>> No.40665050 [DELETED] 

>>40660588
>>40656776
>>40660877
>>40660886
>>40660901
>>40660959
>>40661260
>>40661326
>>40661383
>>40661804
you will never be a woman faggot. go back to seething on twitter about the lack of black trans women instead of ruining vtubing because you wanna impose your sjw propaganda.

>> No.40665535

>>40658951
If you're unsure how a word should be used Anon, you shouldn't use it.

It'll just make you look retarded when you use it incorrectly.

>> No.40669877 [DELETED] 

>>40656276
holy shit based cuckold, give me your wife based cuckold

>> No.40669955

>>40656162
>Recycled old ass thread
Go back

>> No.40670669

My oshi never pander to 'that demographic' so we have no place to chastise her for it. Some Council and Myth does except for Mori so I get why they're upset

>> No.40670761

>>40669877
ok so she is your wife but you are giving her to another guy? weird fetish but go on carl

>> No.40670860

>>40657259
>when I call pixels my waifu only I will claim her. OK?
this is retarded y'know

>> No.40670966

>>40656162
There is no room for males in the streams I watch.

>> No.40674763

>>40656162
No but I will be bothered if they collab with Holostars, TT or OTV.

>> No.40674788

>>40656162
>you're not that parasocial, right?
what does that mean?

>> No.40682426

>>40656162
sadly yes

>> No.40686038
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Reminder that if you've ever had sex or a girlfriend, you don't belong here.

>> No.40686147

>>40656162
I don't care as long as she isn't doing it just to own the haters, and isn't starting drama over it.

>> No.40686434

>>40656162
No.

>> No.40686536

>>40656162
I'm not parasocial and yes, you shouldn't collab with males

>> No.40686648

>>40657831
Countercounterpoint. Don't watch it and ignore it.

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>>40660808
Have you ever played tabletop, gone to a concert, attended a party, helped your friend move out, gone shopping with friends, watched or participated in a tournament, gone to a convention, without your gf? You do those things regardless of your relationship status and sexual orientation, yes?

>> No.40686714

>>40686038
yeah I know this place is full of seething virgins myself included

>> No.40686875

>>40686038
>>>/r9k/

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>>40660808
Can't be a cuck if she's not your girlfriend in the first place.

>> No.40686985

It would bother me tremendously. She has never done it in almost four years of being around though, so I feel pretty safe.

>> No.40687178

>>40661636
So in short, your love is most likely one-sided and you're pretty much a delusional faggot who thinks they're in love with you and in turn they do the same. Nice.

>> No.40687182

>>40686648
It's impossible to ignore and much simpler to just drop the chuuba outright and find someone that doesn't do it.

>> No.40687232

>>40686882
It's simply a crabbucket. Desiring someone who is actually in your arms reach means you do not belong. See >>40686038

>> No.40687234

>>40687182
Whatever helps you. You can do either or both anyway

>> No.40687248

>>40656712
Nobody wants to watch a female performer having a date with a guy on stage.

>> No.40687313

>>40656817
Introvert women don't exist, unless they are extremely ugly or mentally ill.

>> No.40687382

>>40687248
they're not even dating though, no form of flirting either so why do you need to get so angry about it?

>> No.40687399

>>40656162
Why would I be bothered if Magni collab with males? One of his appeals is that he is a whore.

>> No.40687466

>>40687399
Kronii, Mori, Vesper and Magni. Together they are the mald squad especially if Magni throws a bitch fit at Kronii and that's where the toxic kino comes in.

>> No.40687504

>>40686702
without my gf but with another girl? No, my gf would kill me, retard

>> No.40687569

>>40687466
That being said, I don't enjoy the idea of Magni collab with females however.

>> No.40687895

>>40656162
Or... I just don't give a shit about male chubas. Ever thought of that, OP? That viewing preference is a thing? Don't give a shit if whoever I watch has a bf or is married. Just don't like seeing girly-boy-pansy-ass-fujo-bait-looking homo faggots on my screen.

>> No.40688012

>>40656162
I'd drop her instantly.

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>>40656162
Depends on who it is. Some(Many) streamers are insufferable and I would lose respect for my Oshi for even associating with them. And I'm not a fan of collab content anyway. I like solo short-mid length game streams with only mild chat interaction. The occasional short zatsu is cool. But let's not pretend like we actually give a shit about each other. Let's just have a good time and move on. As it should be. Cooking streams are kind of fun.

>> No.40690979

>>40656162
>Surely you're not that parasocial, right?
you dont even care

>> No.40691021

>>40687248
They're playing a fucking video game, mane.
Do you throw bitchfits if you see a stage actor you like interact with another of the opposite sex on-stage?

>> No.40691238

>>40656162
Would drop the small corpos and indies i follow in an instant. After months of trying to put up with Luxiem i learned to not make that mistake again and just cut ties in an instant.

>> No.40691357

>>40691021
If that wasn’t the role for which she was hired absolutely.

>> No.40691386

>>40656712
Theres nothing to explain, as you put it, she does it or you walk away.

>> No.40695344

Imagine putting up with this. Couldn't be me.

>> No.40695673

>>40656162
Not really; but I'd prefer for it to be a more "special event" kind of collab. Or just a specific male x female collab like Axel and Kobo.

Regardless of sex I do not approve of when they collab outside of holo unless it is with a mama or papa

>> No.40695882

It doesn't help that the ones on the holoEN side do these collabs only out of spite and to piss people off and not because they want to genuinely support holostars in any meaningful way. That alone makes it bad, and if I were a holostar I'd tell them all to fuck right off the edge of a horse cock. Except for Bae, she's genuinely a nice girl that always liked holostars way before tempus.

>> No.40696106

>>40656162
No because they're not such an obvious cockhungry whore like Kronii who manipulates her fans.

>> No.40696138

Holobros, you are really spoiled. Some male collabs actually aren't that bad. What's actually bad is when the males start openly flirting with the females, dropping into their streams all the time, and even doing off-collab fuck streams with the females. Like, you don't know how bad it can get. I admire the work of unicorns, but just so you know, a few male collabs is fucking nothing compared to how bad it COULD be. Be grateful for what you have.

>> No.40696168
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>>40656162
I'm bothered if my boys collab with a female. I drop each of them for a full month whenever they do so. Possible permanent drop if they keep teasing too much about it.
I wish Cover took their position of an idol company more seriously and actually segregated them

>> No.40696206

>>40656162
>my oshi
Ina
>collabed with male
I dont know anon i just dont see the chemistry between her and vinny vinesauce or even joel.

>> No.40696371

>>40657064
>the trannies pushing for males and mixed collabs
Words mean nothing now.

>> No.40696427

>>40658037
>Minimum male presence is still a preference
Mental illness is not a preference.
>Even vox-reimu drama show how fujo don't like it.
Can't believe you shitters are using that as a justification when I know damn well you were making fun of it not so long ago.

>> No.40696553

>>40656162
>Collabs with a male once or twice and keeps things professional throughout the collab
No I have no problems with that.
>Lectures viewers over whiny minority and otherwise makes a pig out of herself while ruining her streams for the rest of her viewers
Instantly dropped blocked ignored and occasionally anti'd if they have a yab bandwagon going.

>> No.40696764

>>40696427
Normal male biology isn’t a mental illness. Maybe you’d have a husband if you realized that.

>> No.40696765

>>40696138
This is a really important point
The way it is, they might as well be people from a separate company altogether with how sparse the homo collabs are, not to mention there isn't any open flirting or crude humour like nijisanji

>> No.40697386

>>40696764
>Normal male biology
>Minimum male presence is "normal male "biology"
Are you a woman or mentally ill?

>> No.40698185

>>40656162
Yes it wil bother me.
I don't care if she has an irl bf as long as she doesn't talk about it, but I don't want the character she plays to do that.
It feels like an all girls anime series suddenly has a male member joining, that will spoil the concept of the show for me.

>> No.40699176 [DELETED] 

>>40696427
Seething tranny.
Why do you faggots trying to imply other people are mentally ill, when if you posted your face here people would legit feel sorry for your broken souls

>> No.40699310

>>40699176
Why are you projecting your schizo retardness this hard?

>> No.40699345

>>40699310
Not buying it, sort yourself out.

>> No.40699380

>>40699345
Seek mental help

>> No.40699386

>>40699380
?

>> No.40700427

>>40699176
https://youtu.be/XYRHMfr603I

>> No.40700502

>>40687248
do you even know what shipping is

>> No.40700581

Towa already does it

>> No.40700657

>>40700581
Its basically a cope but >we decided years ago that having a couple whores is both impossible to avoid and a bit of variety for us.
So, we call her Towhore and love her still.

>> No.40700696

>>40700657
When I say variety I mean in types of girls, not variety of content.

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>>40656162
>You're not that parasocial
People like you need to be exterminated.

>> No.40706565

>>40656162
>Surely you're not that parasocial, right?
What is parasocial?

>> No.40706642

>>40656162
Nope, I don't mind it. I just /become/ the male chuuba

>> No.40708877

>>40656162
I would care, it would make me feel jealous and I wouldn't enjoy the collab for that reason.
I am not going to glorify it with that
>le gentlemens game
picture, though that did do a good job of illustrating the general feeling behind it. I know It is objectively pretty pathetic behaviour and that it isn't a healthy way to feel but it is what it is.

I have already made my peace with the fact I will never be more than a viewer/fan to my oshi and will never meet her, accepting too that she has a private life that is none of my business and possibly involves a significant other. All of that is possible to do because it is separated from her on stream persona, where she streams for her fans and they are all on the same footing. Introducing males into that dynamic just feels bad to watch, you are watching a guy break that barrier that a viewer never will, they can be as professional as they like and whilst that can make it more tolerable, it still doesn't make it something I want to watch OR take the place of literally any other stream she could have done in it's place.

It doesn't make her a whore or mean they are fucking or whatever else shitposters here say, but it is not enjoyable content for gachis either, and too much of it will filter me personally.

>> No.40711308

>>40656276
How would it be fun to watch males

>> No.40711799

>>40708877
Your answer is completely reasonable. You feel how you feel and don't like what you don't like.

>> No.40712051

>>40711308
NTA but personally I like the homos and enjoy seeing them get along with their coworkers. I am not bothered by the fact that another male is closer to the female than I ever could hope to be. Truth be told, I am not particularly attached to any one female entertainer any longer. I simply value good entertainment and for the time being I have found that present in mixed collabs.

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Sadly, my Oshi can no longer do collabs...

>> No.40713210

>>40656162
I'd unsub from her.

>> No.40713392

>>40696765
Just wait for Kronii/Vesper offcollab in Japan kek

>> No.40713439

>>40657831
Then go watch anime. It's full of cgdct and rom com garbage.

>> No.40713502

>>40713392
Keep waiting, she wasnt even invited to japan with everyone else

>> No.40713645

>>40713502
She just didn't want to go because she hates this job and she hates her fans even more. The only time she streams is when she needs money from her simp pigs. Then she fucks off.

>> No.40713716

>>40713502
Vesper is gonna stay in Japan for 6 months, you are delusional if you think Kronii is not gonna fly to meet him

>> No.40713719

>>40711308
They might actually be good at videogames

>> No.40713737

>>40713645
Simps gotta simp.
The female literally never does anything wrong when it is apparent she is doing the wrong thing.
It's part of otaku culture.

>> No.40713805

>>40656162
Stop using my clock to shitpost bastard

>> No.40714133

>>40713716
why would he ever want to sex a korean enby when he's surrounded by gorgeous cishet japanese women? what's wrong with him?

>> No.40714743

>>40714133
I'd say he wants a challenge but considering Kronii, it might as well be shooting fish in a barrel.

>> No.40714806

>>40711308
Men beating women at games easily is fun to watch, the twist around homos and HoloEN is the Homos overplay the games and therefore beating themselves instead in the process. Kino moments on most of the collabs so far.

>> No.40714890

>>40714133
He's more into goth girls who are into starwars(pre disney, KOTOR to be specific).

>> No.40715490

Holy shit this thread
Seek help
Your vtuber crushes aren't going to become your girlfriend no matter how much money you throw at them

>> No.40717376

>>40715490
You are the weird one here

>> No.40717679

>>40656162
Disclaimer: not a "Unicorn"
You guys don't understand that you are hurting the girls source of income. Do you think anyone watching an anime girl on the internet and paying her hundreds of dollars normal? It is not in their favor for these parasocials to wake up and do something productive with their lifes becauae they wont be able to exploit them anymore.
This is why I view the EN girls as extremely niave and entitled, whether they collab with Holostars or not. They treat their business associated characters like a personal discord chat server or an MMO character, not focusing on the product and the audience but on their personal desire (wanting to have fun with the boys *on stream* regardless of audience feedback). JP does it sometimes but professionally, they retain audience respect while gaining stars respect too.

>> No.40717934

>>40686648
Okay. Don't beg for collabs. Don't ask adjacent oshis to collab. Don't make it seem like the oshi that participated has never had fun up until she hung out with males.

>> No.40717986

Okay. I'll just not send in supas, cancel my membership, and not buy their merch, all of which ride on the kayfabe of the cute girl not collabing with a male. Prove me wrong.

>> No.40718078

>>40717679
Just let them do what they want the way they want to do it, simple as

>> No.40718096

>>40657581
Tempus does the most streams. Maybe they need longer time to vet the girl talents and felt like a new male wave was safer. Besides Vesper getting angry at his manager, they're all pretty well behave and more importantly stream. Even when Vesper was on holiday break he made sure videos were scheduled to be released daily on his channel.

>> No.40718151

>>40656162
My oshi is a unicorn herself so I'm doing pretty good.

>> No.40718261

>>40717679
Did you think that maybe they don't want that kind of obsessive audience? Even if it pays more it's less stable since it's just a powder keg waiting to explode. Just look at Rushia.

Unicorns are schizos. It gets tiring to pander to schizos as a daily job. So either you purge the unicorns to make the job tolerable or you build up a powder keg that will either explode or you'll get so tired of it that you'll explode it yourself.

It's smarter to take the more stable money.

>> No.40718505

>>40718261
t. twitter tranny who doesnt understand what happened with rushia

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>>40656162
I SAID NO MALES!!!! GET IT THROUGH YOUR DANG DIRTY SKULLS. MY OSHI IS A BOYFRIEND FREE GIRL!

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>>40656162
Imagine caring that much for a w*man over the internet. Might as well chop off your own dicks if you're going to behave like a bunch of pms sissies.

>> No.40722825

>>40656162
it bothers me males exist and they are on discord with them. They may have never talked but the fact the managers can be male also bothers me.

>> No.40724507

Any chuba that collabs with a male gets put on a black list. Simple as.

>> No.40724595

>>40718705
We don't post selfies here

>> No.40728596

>>40656677
Based

>> No.40729181

>>40657771
>>40657662
>>40660588
>>40658165
The ESL levels in this thread are off the fucking charts.

>> No.40729297

Don't change a winning formula. It's just bad business.

>> No.40729400

>>40656162
It's not the content I want to see.

>> No.40730432

>>40656276
this is generally how I think about it too

I watch vtubers to get away from my married life.

>> No.40730929

>>40657831
Holy shit then just ignore and don't watch it, you "cgdct" fags are so transparent.

>> No.40731078

>>40656712
Well as a paranoid loser who had a GF.
I was constantly worried about her cheating on me with her friends, because she was one of those sluts who only has guy friends.
I told her to stop being so physical and friendly with them all the time and to just not spend alone time at each other's homes. And she got mad at me for it.

A few months later she admitted she used to have a crush on one of them but "it was totally over with now"
And after we broke up it turns out she was in fact cheating with me.

So its perfectly reasonable in my opinion that if a girl is actively trying to hang out with guys she is fucking them.

>> No.40731741

I would not be bothered

>> No.40732030
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>>40656162
Yes this collab literally made me hate mixed collabs I can't belive how just these 2 whores alone gave my boys so much trouble I'll be rooting for cover to terminate them and I'll spam and dislike any collab they dare to organize.

>> No.40733180

having bf irl = fine
having male collabs with flirting = bad

>> No.40733455

>>40715490
Anyone that throws money at chuubas is ngmi

>> No.40734222
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KEEP

>> No.40734359

>>40730432
your actual wife is cheating on you, you're anm actual unironic cuck, of course you don't have a problem with it

>> No.40734799

>>40724595
Fuck off newfag

>> No.40734996

>>40734799
Don't you have a court appearance or something?

>> No.40735603 [DELETED] 

>>40656162
I'm still waiting for Gooba's stream where she does a Tempus tier list rating the boys on cock size and their ability to make her cum while she's fucking them.

I can wait though, she probably needs the break so that she'll have time to meet with the new boys.

>> No.40738188

>>40656162
well, in terms of comedic quality, I do look forward to Kronii, Vesper, and Magni. All of them have given me good chuckles on their own and in collabs. Calli is a bit of a wildcard, and I fear she may be attempting to wrestle more of the spotlight than she's actually worth. Hopefully the others drown her out as needed, but I'm doubtful.

>> No.40739948 [DELETED] 

>>40718261
t.trannoid who regularly gets his daily vtuber news from khyo

>> No.40743955

>>40656808
based

>> No.40746660

>>40657917
do it

>> No.40747628

I just want CGDCT anime streamers, dammit.

>> No.40748811
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>>40656162
I don't get people who care. It's not like you know them personally, so why do you get so touchy over it?

>> No.40748965

>>40748811
They throw supas at these girls, so they think they can control them.
It’s a sad mentality, honestly hiring a hooker would be a better ROI.

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>>40656162
>homo mention
>instant fuck ton of (you)s
keep farmin' em anon

>> No.40749486

>>40714890
based, fuck vesper is such a bro. hes literally me

>> No.40749681

>>40656162
I would, because that's one less stream for me to watch

>> No.40749790

>>40660808
That type of thinking is why all of holoEN will collab with Tempus before the end of the year. They don't want fans to see them as their pretend girlfriend. Cover doesn't have a problem with that type of obsession since it increases revenue but the holoEN members don't feel the same way.

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40750079

>>40749790
Incorrect

>> No.40752936

>>40656162
It depends who and how

>> No.40758427

>>40656162
>Surely you're not that parasocial, right?
perhaps I am not

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40758740

>>40749790

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I consider her my gf, I wouldn't care

>> No.40763837

>>40656162
>Surely you're not that parasocial, right?
Fuck the parasocial vs non-parasocial paradigm.
PLAY THE FUCKING CHARACTER. KAYFABE

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