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4064206 No.4064206 [Reply] [Original]

Is it really gatekeeping to ask why she's been invited to Hololive given her public statements?

>> No.4064415

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7cRwGNs2iY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqt2_16CgW8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWwbpH61Kp0

>> No.4064609

>>4064206
Has she? In any case, if you’ve watched one of her streams you should realise her style doesn’t really fit into Hololive. I don’t think she’d take up the offer anyway.

>> No.4064620

Hololive takes pity on retarded basic bitches. Just them being nice and letting her learn and spread the truth about benevolent Cover.

>> No.4064674

>>4064206
To make peace

>> No.4064724

>>4064206
Yes, now fuck off.

>> No.4064840

>>4064206
Did zoomers change another words meaning? Wtf does gatekeeping even mean?

>> No.4064841

>>4064206
>she's been invited to Hololive
..this makes it sound like she's been asked to join hololive

you mean invited to collab with hololive, through kiara, right?

>> No.4065295

>>4064841
Yes

>> No.4065352

>>4064841
>she's been asked to join hololive
in a perfect world she would be

>> No.4065577

>>4065352
Why would you want that? She’s a black hole of personality. Without sex jokes she’d be nothing.

>> No.4065601

>>4064206
1. you're using the term "gatekeeping" wrong
2. I don't give a single fuck about Kiara or Viebe, I actually like Hololive and Vshojo but neither one of them is going to "ruin" anything.

If anything the collab will humble Vei and she'll be forced the retract her previous idiot statements.

>> No.4065788

>>4064840
I guess it means making people feel bad for things they said, although that’s possibly “cancel culture”

>> No.4066171

>>4064206
I'd bet if Yagoo heard the exact transcript he'd probably nix that collab instantly. He is rather protective of vtubers as being a Japanese invention/thing and this bitch shat all over his face.

>> No.4066485

>>4066171
https://cover-corp.com/report/

>> No.4066661

>>4064206
Yes.

>> No.4070713

>i like these vtubers
>i do not like these other vtubers
>REEEEEEEEE STOP GATEKEEPING ME
is there a single sane person in vshoujo?

>> No.4070896

>>4070713
Funny, you also just described /vt/.

>> No.4070988

>>4070896
Ive never seen anyone unironically complain about gatekeeping though

>> No.4071127

>>4070988
Then you haven't been here very long. Those threads appear with only a marginal smaller frequency than Kiara hate threads.

>> No.4071196

>>4071127
prove it then. yeah thats what i thought retard go back to fapping to your titty whore roasty streamers

>> No.4071265

>>4064206
>Implying that's a bad thing
It is (albeit pretty weak) gatekeeping, which is why you should do it.

>> No.4071306

>>4071196
Kek

>> No.4071556 [SPOILER] 
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4071556

>>4071127
Okay. Here's my proof.

>> No.4071786

>>4064841
Management will not allow it to happen.

Vshitshow is yabai and Melody and friends are blacklisted by default.

If Veibae wanted to work with the holos, she shouldn't have sold out to Melody.

>> No.4071910

>>4071786
Kiara is literally collabing with Veibae and Nyanners next week. Clearly Cover doesn't care as much as you think they do.

>> No.4072314

>>4071910
If it's true they're retards for allowing it.

It's alright if they'd be allowed to work with known, proven vtubers that aren't in it for themselves and will cause a shitstorm. Like Pikamee doing stuff with EN would be fine, she did stuff with ID.

But let vshitshow do stuff with hololive? Oh dear....

>> No.4073060

>>4064724
>"Yes, it is mean to ask questions about what's going on! Now FUCK OFF and don't dare to ask such misogynistic questions about my pure & precious Veubae, you FAGGOT incel!!!"

>> No.4073081

>>4072314
Didn't Matsuri once have a peeing into a cup animation?

Didn't Coco once shave her pubes on stream?

Doesn't the ENTIRE CAST aggressively flirt with one another?

Hololive is closer to VShojo than you realize.

>> No.4073290
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4073290

>>4072314
They’ve known each other for a while and are on good terms. Knowing Kiara it would only be a matter of time.

>> No.4073561

>>4073081
>Being so cucked as to think any of that shit is anywhere as depraved or as bad as the absolute thottery that is this bitch.
>https://youtu.be/dZCykagK6Z8

The absolute state of you.

>> No.4076305

>>4064206
You're delusional, she didn't attack hololive in anyway, shape for form. It's just your personal fantasy.

>> No.4076531

Gatekeeping is good.

>> No.4076571

>>4076305
Fuck off. It happened because I say it happened.

>> No.4076608 [DELETED] 

idk how kiara shitty asian accent whore

>> No.4076679

idk how kiara likes this shitty asian accent whore

>> No.4076751

>>4073081
Stop being such a retard, anon. Even Kagura Mea is better than Veibae, and she talked about mooching off men and doing AV as a back up plan. The difference is, Mea presents her self as an anti-idol, a subversion of idol culture, and Veibae presents herself as an AIDS-ridden whore.

>> No.4076931

>>4073561
That's her being cynical and mocking twitch culture/the privileges of being an e-thot. A worse example is where she talks about knowing the taste of cum.

>> No.4077348

>>4064206
its gatekeeping, and gatekeeping is a fucking good thing, its the only thing stopping vtubers from being just as bad as twitchthots

>> No.4078654

>>4077348
The GFE that holos do is 100x worse than being a twitchthot. Absolutely predatory to lonely men. At least twitchthots are honest about what they're doing.

>> No.4079900

Veibae is a fucking liar piece of parasite shit, who deletes the evidence and making herself the victim, the worst of type scum, but also i have feelings that kiara is also hiding something unpleasent idk, but yeah veibae, you say "fuck the people think"but that people can also ruin your career .

>> No.4080150

>>4076571
Lmao

>> No.4080201

>>4077348
Some vtubers are already way worse than twitch thots the fuck are you on about?

>> No.4081590

Vshojo isn't compadible with hololive. They opperate at different maturity levels. Holo is all about trying to be pure. Vshojo is thots being thots and moaning on stream all day while they draw pictures of dragons fucking cars.

>> No.4081635

>>4081590
>trying to be pure

Ask me how I know you don't watch these women.

>> No.4081733

>>4065601
>If anything the collab will humble Vei and she'll be forced the retract her previous idiot statements.
Fat chance. Even in the first post's clips she's not apologizing for shit, just clarifying what her opinion is / was.

>> No.4081868

>>4079900
>who deletes the evidence
The fuck are you morons talking about? She's addressed these things on stream, and recently, in public, not hidden.

>> No.4081896

Does the crying and seething do anything for you?

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>>4081590
There are schizos in this board that unironically think this.

>> No.4082448

>>4081635
>>4081998
I just know that neither of you people have ever watched vshojo if you think hololive can't be called pure. When you see Nyanners wearing pussy socks with stink fumes coming off them and Snuffy and talking about getting wet while eating popsicles, you'll see what I mean.

>> No.4082481

>>4082448
I'm not comparing them. I'm saying that you can't say one is impure as a basis for the other BEING pure. They're both chock full of thirsty skanks.

>> No.4082541

>>4064206
Yes and no.
Also, gatekeeping is not wrong. Fuck anyone that says different.

>> No.4082639

>>4064415
She shit on the talents for basically being idols and working for Cover. She's not being honest here and I'd be happy if more people made waves about it. Her doubling down makes her look worse, especially saying she wouldn't apologize. She outright mocked the girls for being called idols like it was beneath her.

>> No.4082655

>>4082481
No they aren't. Hololive tries so fucking hard to be high brow. They really do attempt to avoid "the lazy man's comedy".

>> No.4082673

>>4072314
>cover would never allow it
>on schedule next week
If you’re gonna doompost vshojo at least lie about being a holofag better. If you haven’t seen them interacting on social media the past few weeks and hadn’t known about the collab announcement then it’d obvious you don’t watch nor care for either party. 4/10 bait

>> No.4082687

>>4064206
It's a legitimate question. But any legitimate criticism or question gets you labelled an anti in this hugbox of a community. How convenient for vtubers that are objectively awful human beings.

>> No.4082719

>>4065788
Wrong. Gatekeeping is as the word means, preventing outsiders from being welcomed into a group. Has nothing to do with cancel culture. If Cover were Muslims and Veibae were a Jew, it wouldn't make sense for the Cover imams to allow rabbi Vei to preach in their mosque.

Basically, someone that doesn't like your company shouldn't be allowed to collab with that company's talents. It's common sense.

>> No.4082763

>>4082655
Bitch, have you watched any of the talent's streams? How about the Holo no Graffiti shorts? None of that shit is high brow. Case in point, literally any of them that feature Choco. It's 100% boob jokes and boob zoom-ins. You're blinded by your irrational hatred for VShojo.

>> No.4082769

>>4064840
OP is using it out of context, or incorrectly here, but it means to intentionally prevent access to someone/something
WE the fans are not gatekeepers, but ENMa and JENMa from Hololive are. They barely let Coco work with the EN girls and it blew up in their face

>> No.4082849

>>4082655
>tries
Operative word.

>> No.4082907

>>4082763
>h-heres this one talent out of a roster of 50+ that has big breasts and cleavage showing. just as bad as vShojo.
vShojos entire existence revolves around being sluts. some hololive members dip their toe into the pool on occasion. You people are so fucking braindead.

>> No.4082911

>>4076751
Also, Mea is good friends with Aqua, a Holomem that is big into the idol aspect of her job. Mea only ironically shits on idol culture as she also plays into it at times. Veibei is absolutely serious about hating idols and the rules they have.

Western feminism is a part of that mindset. Any rules put on women are oppressive and backwards so they must be abolished. Classic 2nd wave stuff that younger women think is new.

>> No.4082914
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>>4082763
I hold no emotional grudges against either company. When hololive does boob jokes, they're just quick one and done skits. A brief flash or a zoom in. Compare that to Hime's approach to boob jokes. There's a world of difference. Vshojo gets way more direct and more blue.

>> No.4082938

>>4082719
>If Cover were Muslims and Veibae were a Jew, it wouldn't make sense for the Cover imams to allow rabbi Vei to preach in their mosque.
This might be the most off base analogy I have seen in a long time. This is not religious dogma with hundreds of years of actual bloodletting wars pushing the two sides apart, anon. This is just two vtubing companies with two different business philosophies. Also, the talents get along with each other, unlike (many) Muslims and Jews.

>> No.4082958

>>4078654
>Absolutely predatory to lonely men
If GFE is predatory, so are prostitutes. Ever thought they're making lonely men feel a bit less lonely for a while?

>> No.4082961

>>4082914
Okay, hold up. Don't compare Choco to Hime Hajime, that's fucking blasphemy. She's barely VShojo and I think even they regret her.

>> No.4083029

>Shartemis pirates HoloFES - Kiara unfollows and ignores ..them
>Veibae shits on Hololive - Kiara asks for collabs
Is Kiara transphobic? Might start pushing this rrat as punishment for ruining Hololive.

>> No.4083083

How was the collab?

>>4083029
One is literally a leech and a mentally ill, the other one is a massive hypocrite who deserves death irl. NO PERSONALITY, NO FUCKING SKILLS, NO NOTHING, only teehee sex jokes 24/7. At least, in some RARE CASES, you can cure mentally ill people before they join the stadistics, hypocresy and a triple bitch face is impossible to change.

>> No.4083171

>>4083083
>How was the collab?
Want to know how I know you're not a fan of either Hololive or VShojo?

>> No.4083175 [DELETED] 

>>4082938
My point is just because one imam is cool with the rabbi, doesn't mean his fellow imams are. If the JP girls knew what Veibei actually said, they wouldn't appreciate Kiara collabing with her.

How about you inviting a friend to your home and he has said nasty things about your other family members but they don't know? Aren't you the shitty person for still inviting them or even continuing to befriend them?

EN girls ghosted Shartemis after finding out he's a tranny but Kiara is willing to collabwith Veibei. I think it's all about exposure and numbers for Kiara.

>> No.4083184

>>4072314
Take your meds schizo

>> No.4083198

>>4082961
>She's barely VShojo

She was part of the initial roster announcement. Even if you don't like her, they put her up front with the rest of them.

>> No.4083200

>>4083171
I was on a place with no internet until recently, nigger. I also missed the Gura Miku stream. The date was the 22, basically yesterday.

>> No.4083218

>>4076571
Meds pls

>> No.4083321

>>4082961
Anon she's a literal joke character the roommate decided to take seriously

>> No.4083387

>>4083029
>Kiara is based and hates troons

KFP... was I wrong about Orange Woman? Could she actually be good?

>> No.4083415

>>4083175
>If the JP girls knew what Veibei actually said, they wouldn't appreciate Kiara collabing with her.
Would that matter? Hololive is surely aware of it and still allowing Kiara to go forward.

I don't have a problem with you fans having your feathers ruffled by what she said. If a HL talent talked smack about VShojo I'd probably be a bit irritated. Considering Cover's continued anti-Melody slant, I'm not exactly in love with the company to begin with.

I'm going to ignore the spoiler comment on account of not giving a damn about Artemis.

>> No.4083446

>>4083321
The company decided to take it seriously too, unfortunately.

>> No.4083477

>>4083200
>I also missed the Gura Miku stream
Nobody else in this thread has mentioned anything about Gura nor Miku, but you brought it up in an anti-Veibae thread why? Did you miss the /hlgg/ thread by a mile?

>> No.4083516

>>4083477
I just replied your question about me not watching holos or not being a fan of them. Don't redirect the question with another one. Retard.

>> No.4083566

>>4083516
>How was the collab?
What collab were you talking about, anon?

>> No.4083602

>>4083566
The Digikomi one.

>> No.4083633

>>4064415
>I won't apologize
>but I don't want to poke the bear
I'll take that as an apology

>> No.4083650

>>4083029
Kiara probably didn't know about it

>> No.4083668

>>4083633
That's not how apologies work, anon.

>>4083650
Kiara is literally clueless about stuff not involving her dreams.

>> No.4083711

>>4083602
Yeah, it was fun. Kiara’s interview was sort of unremarkable, but Lumi and VShojo afterwards stole the show.

>> No.4083754

>>4083711
Thanks, I'll go now and do my chicken and shark reps. And Veibae has just to apologize, retract her remarks (since she had 0 clue and only wanted to become popular, like the slut she is), and unironically kneel to Cover. The japs always remember if someone shitted on their desk before.

>> No.4083860

>>4083668
>That's not how apologies work
Doesn't matter, it's the most they will get from her, is her way of kneeling to the schizos before things escalate

>> No.4083870

>>4083415
>Hololive is surely aware of it
I'm not assuming they are unless you sent in a translated clip to Cover and the right people were made aware of what was said.
>you fans
I never made this a Vshojo versus HL thing. I like Ironmouse but never really cared much for her friend group. It's what was said by Vei that's my issue, not that she's in Vshojo. If other members have said similar about HL or vtuber culture, I would want them out of Hololive's orbit as well.

>> No.4084007

>>4083870
>It's what was said by Vei that's my issue, not that she's in Vshojo
Based.

>> No.4084045

>>4082763
>>4082961
>it's ok to nitpick the sluts of Hololive like Choco but it's not ok to nitpick the hollow sluts of VShojo like Hime
And Choco is still more tame then the tamest VSlut

>> No.4084099

>>4084045
Debatable. Most of them just talk about being sluts, with the exception of Melody. Choco and Mel straight up made out on screen for five minutes.

>> No.4084267

>>4082914
God don’t remind me her debut stream was the cringiest shit

>> No.4084512

>>4064415
Her hatred for Cover is definitely misguided/missing the forest for the trees

>> No.4084523

"I actually... I hate that. Like, that side of Hololive that roleplays. Because it like, when you know, about all like the uhm... background stuff, that they have to do just to be in Hololive and how they have to be roleplaying it's like spooky. Hololive personalities don't own their model. They don't have any decision making when it comes to how they look like. They don't own their YouTube or their social media. If they get fired, they lose everything. Yeah, it's called graduation, it's so fucked up, dude! Fuck that shit! You get graduation into homelessness that's so fucked!. [COMMENT: They promote their talents as idols.] Yeah, fuck, then they get doxed and shit. I dunno I hate it. I like, I like the uh, streamers, I think. I don't know, I don't know like what I like. I like the roleplay but the whole idol culture is so messed up. It's hard for me to watch Hololive a little bit. It feels really scripted, no? Yeah I think, I think that they just have to stay in roleplay. They literally support a terrible company. After the actual idols that have left Hololive talked about it, and the way that they're treated... Keep defending it dude."

>> No.4084667

>>4084045
>>4084099
Choco is very tame. Niji girls are way more out there than that. The collab with her fellow 'S' women showed that anything beyond dirty talk was too much for her.
>>4084512
Cover is much more incompetent than evil. Neither is good but intentional malicious behavior is always worse.
>>4084523
>They literally support a terrible company. After the actual idols that have left Hololive talked about it, and the way that they're treated... Keep defending it dude."
Who is she referring to that talked about how bad Cover was after she left? Sounds like bullshit to me. Also, what's so wrong with playing a character and having some stuff scripted?

>> No.4084687

>>4084523
>I actually... I hate that. Like, that side of Hololive that roleplays. Because it like, when you know, about all like the uhm... background stuff, that they have to do just to be in Hololive and how they have to be roleplaying it's like spooky.
What?
>They don't have any decision making when it comes to how they look like.
Sine Gen 3, false
> They don't have any decision making when it comes to how they look like. They don't own their YouTube or their social media. If they get fired, they lose everything. Yeah, it's called graduation, it's so fucked up, dude! Fuck that shit! You get graduation into homelessness that's so fucked!
True, that's what happens when you get fired from a job, but I respect this opinion
>[COMMENT: They promote their talents as idols.] Yeah, fuck, then they get doxed and shit. I dunno I hate it. I like, I like the uh, streamers, I think. I don't know, I don't know like what I like. I like the roleplay but the whole idol culture is so messed up.
(Implying they are like RL idols) She's obviously talking about Aloe, as if this wasn't a problem with Nijisanji and other companies. And just because they are idols doesn't mean they have a target
>It's hard for me to watch Hololive a little bit. It feels really scripted, no? Yeah I think, I think that they just have to stay in roleplay.
That's your opinion, fair enough
>They literally support a terrible company. After the actual idols that have left Hololive talked about it, and the way that they're treated... Keep defending it dude.
Source? Cover is incompetent, but she talks like they're a black company

Post now the transcript of the recent clip, faggot[spoilers]

>> No.4084700

Just so you all know this is why Aloe got so much hate from Nijiniggers. Because she talked badly about their company. And you all thought that was so stupid and petty of them. And now this. Lol

>> No.4084737

>>4084700
Who wants Veibae to graduate?

>> No.4084759

>>4084737
Samefagging, don't know what Aloe said, but fuck double standards

>> No.4084861

>>4064415
That spic/valley girl mashup with the low IQ vocab and the irritating rise in pitch at the end of every thought is really difficult to listen to. I don't know if she's either of those things or just trying to imitate her favorite celebrities when she talks but Jesus Christ I just spent <10 minute being mad at a girl talking, knowing nothing about her beforehand and not really having a stake in the vshojo/hololive fight.

>> No.4084878

>>4084737
I don't think Vshojo has graduation in their vernacular, but if they did I'm sure everyone here would be calling for it. If it was petty to shit on Aloe for giving a misinformed opinion on Ichikara then it's just as petty to shit on Veibae for giving a misinformed opinion on Cover.

>> No.4084893

If anyone is going to graduate VShojo it's Hime. Veibae contributes, even if you don't like her content. What does Hime do?

>> No.4085212

>>4064415
She really does comes across like someone who accidentally let herself form such a strong negative opinion about Cover without much information, which is damaging to Cover since she has a large audience. So it would be understandable if they hasn’t allowed a collaboration. But they probably also have faith that Kiara wouldn’t be pushing for this if something bad could come of it

>> No.4085304

>>4084700
I don't want to harass nor give death threats nor want Veibae to graduate, I just don't want that bitch to get close to the other girls just when it benefits her, it's pretty far and more tame than the niji-Aloe case

>> No.4085355

Veibae is not a product of Vshojo and graduation only means she has to run her own merch store. You're fighting very hard for something that won't affect Twitch simps

>> No.4085397

So, was she wrong? About it being better for talents to own the character and the associated YT/Twitch/social accounts.

>> No.4085403

>>4084700
Except I couldn't give less if a fuck about the whore if she didn't start collabing with hololive.

>> No.4085423

>>4064206
Gatekeeping is a word tranny's use

Are you a tranny?

>> No.4085457

>>4085355
You’re right, she’s a product of this toxic industry as a whole who was misled by rrats and now she’s forever “blacklisted” and isn’t ever allowed to have an opinion again.

>> No.4085480

>>4085355
Again, where did this idea from graduation come from?

>>4085397
I mean, the character exists because of the artist and rigger being paid by the company, the only exception is Suisei.
MAAAYBE the idols could pay tons of money if they want to keep the character.
And the, what's your opinion of Ichikara? Vshojo is made of indies, you got to admit that

>> No.4085514

>>4085397
I think so. Cover wants to run a show where they have the ultimate say over the characters. That’s all, other people’s choices are being limited because no one is forced to go through Hololive to be a vtuber.
Trying to say they shouldn’t even be able to do that or that it should be seen as weird? That line of thinking is what’s weird, like it’s trying put the actual avatar on the same level as someone’s agency

>> No.4085534

>>4085355
Just fucking stay away from hololive bitch if you really hate it that much fucking leech

>> No.4085719

>>4085480
Oh, no I'm just a tourist. Vei just happened to be the first tuber I picked.

But I'm familiar with how exploitative the non-virtual idol culture is towards their talents, and at first glance this doesn't seem to be that different.

>> No.4085963

>>4085719
>But I'm familiar with how exploitative the non-virtual idol culture is towards their talents, and at first glance this doesn't seem to be that different.
Oh so cover is already whoring the roommates to the Yakuza then.

>> No.4086054

>>4085719
you have no idea what you are talking about but it sure hasn't stopped you from forming an opinion

>> No.4086069

>>4085719
>But I'm familiar with how exploitative the non-virtual idol culture is towards their talents, and at first glance this doesn't seem to be that different.
Nigger they play video games from the comfort of their own home behind a cartoon avatar and becoming wealthy in the process. Its not that deep.

>> No.4086141

>>4085719
I'll just say that at least they are safe behind an avatar. And while they have limitations, Cover isn't exploitative.

The worst yabs related to RL were:
>Mel, who got stalked by her manager, but she's still today
>Aloe, she graduated, but even today she isn't mad at Cover

Look at Polka, in her past life she was mistreated because the company believed they could replace her with anyone else to fit the character. Now, she has said she's being treated well.

Say what you want about Cover, but they don't treat the girls badly

>> No.4086149

The difference between what vshojo does and what hologirls do can be summed up as follows
>It's funny that I say lewd things because I am a thot
>It's funny that I say lewd things because I am not a thot

>> No.4086399

>>4086149
That makes a world of difference though.

>> No.4086668

>>4078654
bitter woman hands typed this post

>> No.4086792

>>4078654
Or just fucking enjoy what you want, and I don't enjoy twitchthots. And the same argument can be used for horny virgins

>> No.4086805

>>4064415
She is not wrong.

>> No.4086950

>>4073561
You must not be able to process sarcasm.

>> No.4086992

>>4086805
Which graduated Holo girl did she talk to?

>> No.4087045

>>4085963
Give examples of virtual idol companies being exploitative

>> No.4087146

>>4064415
>>4086805
No one cares if she is friends with Kiara
The Vshojo thing is an excuse used by retard antis, people's shitting on her specifically
Pro-talent my ass, she said that the idols keep supporting a terrible company

>> No.4087178

>>4076931
that's clearly a lie though.
you don't have taste buds on the back of your throat.

>> No.4087264

>>4087146
I mean, the rest of them can stay in their twitch ghetto as well

>> No.4087276

>>4086141
>Aloe, she graduated, but even today she isn't mad at Cover
that's because it was her choice.
aloe/delta[/spoiler] was actually planning to return until she got harassed by her step dad because they got calls to their house.
apparently cover actually said they'd relocate her to make it easier on her, but her mom was sick and she didn't want to leave her behind with her abusive step dad.

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>>4087264
Yeah, if Kiara wants to collab with her, that's dandy, instead of being a faggot, I'll watch another thing. I don't like Veibae, too whorish for my taste with her recurrent talk about cum, and I want to stay far from Twitch culture, I only go there to watch small indie vtubers and that's it.

>> No.4087415

>>4087369
yeah twitch is absolute cancer, i only ever go there to watch dota.

>> No.4087430
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4087430

Kiara is brainwashing everyone she collabs with into something.
Mori is now a bimbo bitch thanks to kiara and veibae will kneel to orange woman too and suck her cock. and thats a good thing

>> No.4087615

>>4087430
Veibae proudly talks about sucking cock already, she wouldn't need to be brainwashed into doing it.

>> No.4087636

>>4087369
yeah still gonna drop my membership though

>> No.4088060

>>4087369
Why do people pretend youtube culture is any different? It's literally the same people.

>> No.4088101

>>4087615
>Vei's only involvement in collab will be making moans and slurping noises from under the table while Kiara and whatever is the other girl plays the game

>> No.4088114

>>4086054
It's a process. Thanks for helping me along the way.

>>4086141
I meant that at least for 3D streamers the value is in their brand name and following, not the immediate profits from streaming. On one hand the support is nice, not having to make the initial investment for the avatar, or the costs of a failed launch, and I assume some creative help with her design. But on the other doesn't it limit what they can to? Having to stick with the 5-trope anime character and not evolve it further, having to seek approval for any content outside of the usual, etc.

>> No.4088145

>>4088060
Link me to the part where Gura talks about getting cum shot in her eye or spreading her asshole in front of a camera if deadsubs meme turns out to be true.

>> No.4088148

Do you think Kiara wants to fuck Vei? She suddenly started to talk about her here and there and asked her for a collab. Is her roommate(not that one) not enough for her anymore?

>> No.4088181

>>4088114
Go back to the hole you came from

>> No.4088187

>>4088148
No, anonchama. They’re just friends. Friends talk to each other regularly. Doesn’t mean they wanna fuck.

>> No.4088200

>>4088148
Well, she moved out and publicly told that they're not dating... Poor roommate, she was cooking for Kiara and its still inviting her to travel together... Maybe there's still a chance?

>> No.4088216

>>4088181
This is the hole anon. The rest of the world is out there.

>> No.4088254

>>4088216
Hololive is pretty popular but you can't be assed to go on twitter and talk to Japanese or go to the reddit for basic information
Please leave

>> No.4088259

>>4087615
>proudly
I bet her blowjob skills aren't actually as good as she thinks they are.

>> No.4088318

Is Veibae the only Vtuber confirmed to know what cum tastes like?

>> No.4088548

>>4088114
>On one hand the support is nice, not having to make the initial investment for the avatar, or the costs of a failed launch, and I assume some creative help with her design. But on the other doesn't it limit what they can to? Having to stick with the 5-trope anime character and not evolve it further, having to seek approval for any content outside of the usual, etc.
They don't necessarily have to stick with the character, and if they do, for the most part it's because they chose to. I would say that they are part-streamer/part-actor.
As for the approval of certain content, yeah that's a fair criticism. As long as there isn't anything that could trigger YouTube, mess with advertisers get to close to RL, any kind of content is fine.

>>4088060
It's not about the people, it's the content.
The chat is way too different, I can't tell Twitch is just cringe. And the content is mostly watching a guy/girl only reacting to things. I can't explain it , but it just hits different.
And I also don't like things like the "Youtuber/Anituber/whatever community"

>> No.4088583

>>4088548
>*mess with advertisers or get too close to RL

>> No.4092024

Post your reaction when during the collab Kiara brings up Veihoe comments on Hololive, and starts questioning and pressuring her about why would she says those things about the company that not only helped her, but also helped the other girls, and slowly becoming passive agressive as Vei starts to awkwardly laugh it off and try to change the subject while Kiara starts to imply that Vei is a dishonest leech

>> No.4092056

>>4092024
I wake up and then watch the actual collab where nothing particularly interesting happens.

>> No.4092075

>>4064415
she's literally one of those normalfags that read a post on twitter that idolfags are the reason Aloe was forced to graduate and that there was no other way to handle Taiwangate. Literally what a bitch, when Kiara bitches about Cover we all agree cause "things cover should do.txt" and she knows what she's saying but this polish slut knows nothing at all while mocking the nature of idol vtubers.

>> No.4092123

>>4092056
Kek

>> No.4092178

>>4092075
What was the "normalfag" China narrative again? I remember it being a pretty cut and dry issue. Haachama and Coco say Taiwan, Coco takes the heat, Cover suspends both of them for 2 weeks , Chinese talents are revealed to be anti-Coco and the Chinese branch is dissolved after becoming unprofitable. I literally have no idea how this could be skewed much differently than it played out.

>> No.4092291

>>4064415
>Wahh, why are people trying to stop me being FRIENDS with this person?
Zombo made the same argument; its not about who you're friends with, literally do whatever the fuck you want in your private time. Public interactions and collabs are different

>> No.4092528

>>4078654
people get way too into GFE for sure but what they're simping for seems to at least present itself as a more dignified/desirable type of woman, relative to the twitch-thot

>> No.4092566

>>4064206
>says some stupid shit when she doesn't know anything about companies
>changes opinion later after joining a company

Damn, who would have ever thought.

>> No.4092631

>>4064206
Say whatever you want but the fact (our) anger got to them is enough for me lol, fuck you veibae, I'll drop a dislike, that will teach 'em

>> No.4092772

>>4088259
She's got a pretty overly made up but very pretty face and what looks like lip fillers. She's probably terrible at giving blowjobs and a total dead fish in bed.

>> No.4092852

>>4083415
Calli literally didn’t know anything about Rushia or other members
What makes you think they would bother researching info like that?

>> No.4092863

>>4092772
Those lips sucked dozens of dicks, you just know

>> No.4092884

>>4092863
Yeah for sure, disgusting slut without a doubt. But my point being, probably not very well.

>> No.4093136

>>4082938
No, the analogy works perfectly you fucking retard. It's not as drastic as that shit but it gets the point the anon was trying to make loud and clear.

>> No.4093209

Reminder that Vei didn't know that the balls themselves aren't joined, but separate within the scrotum. Confirmed for neglecting the balls.

>> No.4093398

>>4093209
link?

>> No.4093510

>>4092863
That really isn't much of an achievement for a girl, you'd have to be really bad for a man to say he'd rather you didn't suck his dick.

>> No.4093708

>>4093398
I don't remember when exactly it was, I think she was playing Apex with the others and teabagging got brought up, which led to talk about the possible things men can do with their balls.

>> No.4093864

Didn't know this place was full of blowjob elitists.

>> No.4094146

We should have bullied KFP and Vshojo out of the board when we had the chance

>> No.4094179

Do you think the chicken realizes she’s being used yet? Vei is the definition of the kind of high school mean girl who bullied Kiaras room mate for so long, even pink cat would have been better. But Kiara is so desperate for outside attention to hit 1 million, she doesn’t realize she’s being used.

>> No.4094286

>>4094179
Wasn't Kiara the one who suggested the collab? If anything she's begging to be used.

>> No.4094376

>>4094286
Yes, that's how it goes.
>weird girl tries hard to get along with popular girl
>latter ends up using her for tests occasionally telling her "you're the best, I like you so much"
>laughs her ass off at her while drinking with friends at normie parties

>> No.4094396

>>4094179
Kiara doesn't give a single shit and obviously knows about Vei being an ass, the only thing that they have in common is thirst for popularity. She is not a silly goose, anon-chama.

She literally was the one who kept pushing the VShojo Collab, because she can't stand being lower than a person who is actually talented.

>> No.4094647

KFP deserves this.

>> No.4094892

>>4082911
Yes of course. Mea, herself, is also an idol.

>> No.4095009

>>4094179
>>4094376
>>4094396
Isn't Kiara doing better than her by every metric?

>> No.4095128

Changing somebody's viewpoint is incredibly hard. If they could make her change her mind and publicly praise the company instead it'd be good PR and exposure for that big western moneypile.
(not that this will ever happen)

>> No.4095145

>>4095009
For now. Check your metrics again after their collab.

>> No.4095477

Collabing with someone who public shit on your employers is bad

>> No.4095543

>>4095477
That's assuming you care about your employer and colleagues.

>> No.4095638

>>4095543
It looks bad for everyone its better that they leave this friendship in private

>> No.4095836

>>4095543
>>4095638
Kiara and KFP doesnt seems to care. They are content to blame all their problem and criticism on Seanigger antis or whatsoever.

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>tastes your cum
Nothing personal, holocels
https://youtu.be/499HZjx7wes

>> No.4095941

>>4095836
Some of us do.

>> No.4096308

>>4094179
As per this stream, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFRPg8hML4s no collab with Vei, thankfully.

>> No.4096518

>>4064415
>I love the talent
>I don't like Cover
Cover picked the designed and the character behavior. The only thing she knows is that "the talent" is doing a good job at depicted the character dictated by Cover.

>> No.4096528 [DELETED] 

>>4096308
What am I supposed to see? She’s streaming Yakuza

>> No.4096558

We won /vt/ bros! We cancelled the collab with Vei! But we get Kiara collabing with Pink Cat instead... so no one wins

>> No.4096592

it's a hate campaign, not gatekeeping. Don't apply that pussy idol shit like "graduation" here

>> No.4096611

>>4096528
When it archives around the 2hr 20 mark she stated the collab with vei is off but it's changed to a different member from vshoujo "that likes her."

>> No.4096626

>>4092291
This. If they're not content with being friends privately and irl then they're just user scumbags they shouldnt associate with from the start

>> No.4096834

If anyone here really is one of the KFP, let it be know that Kiara can make the collab work by convince Vei to change her view, admit her mistake about Hololive after the collab or something and everyone will be happy. Don't let all the falsefag scare her into canceling the collab. It's always good to gain more friends. Vei word had already reach the Nip and NGA and the faster she clear it the better.

>> No.4096875

>>4096834
>everyone will be happy.
No, you will never make everyone happy, trying to achieve such an impossible goal just makes things worse.

>> No.4096946

>>4096875
Pretty much, all the seething and spamming Cover with Vei clip, and for what? She is now gonna have two collabs, and one of them is almost confirmed to be Nyanners. Good job, kek

>> No.4096956 [DELETED] 

>>4096834
But no one’s stopping them from being friends tho

>> No.4096967

>>4096834
>Kiara can make the collab work by convince Vei to change her view
>It's always good to gain more friends.
>if you want to be friends with someone but dotn agree with their views, force them to change!
lmao

>> No.4096982
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4096982

Vei did nothing wrong. Idolfaggots are cancer and demand talents to shave their head as an apology or someshit. I still remember love live fans throwing a fit that they collabed with granblue because it had male characters. Now they're trying to make Vei do an apology for having an opinion

>> No.4097012

>>4096946
>Pretty much, all the seething and spamming Cover with Vei clip, and for what?
Vei said on stream that due to the backlash she is canceling the colab. the spamming kept the colab from hapening.

>> No.4097094

>>4097012
It's just changed one VShojo to another. And I would take Vei instead of the cat any day

>> No.4097122

>>4084700
to this day still no proof that it was niji fans with an agenda

>> No.4097137 [DELETED] 

>>4096982
You know shit about Hololive if you believe they’re the same as RL idol culture
>>4096946
Pink cat…
Meh, Cover should already know about her supposed hypocrisy, if they’re letting her collab with Kiara.

>> No.4097163

>>4097137
https://cover-corp.com/report/

>> No.4097183 [DELETED] 

>>4097094
Not him, how about Melody or Mouse, maybe Froot

>> No.4097222

>>4097183
Melody is already banned from colabing with them since last year

>> No.4097224

>>4097094
>Successfully stop the collab with Vei
>Only to get her replaced with the Judas of 4chan
/vt/ really monkey pawed themselves with this one.

>> No.4097242

>>4097183
>melody
no, obviously
>mouse
slut
>froot
cheated on her deployed husband, scammed /k/

>> No.4097267

>>4097183
I think most people here can agree, that all of them are better than Nyanners, but I don't remember them ever talking about Kiara, so unlikely

>> No.4097272

>>4097163
Saying she doesn't like loli or lolicons isn't the same as directly insulting and lying about the company and employees. I don't think cover will care about the cat thing.

>> No.4097280

>>4096967
Clearly you had never watched a anime.

>> No.4097281

>>4097183
Nyanners is the girl Kiara is friendliest with after Vei, it'll probably be her.

>> No.4097310 [DELETED] 

>>4097272
Don’t worry I’m going through my nyanners archive looking for references to japanese companies and/or idols

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>>4097163
What are we going to say?
This? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZARdunyooDw
(pic related)?
Maybe her Discord server rules, or that post about sexualization in games?

It's useless anon, Nyanners being anti-cunny isn't enough, and you could argue SJW Nyanners=/=Vtuber Nyanners, I hate the former, but I'm mostly neutral about the latter.
Probably nothing is stopping that collab.

Basically this >>4097267

>> No.4097519

>>4097310
Based schizo stalker.

>> No.4097530

>>4097137
just watched the vids and comments section above concluded that they are, in fact, the same. This is as bad as hei digging up old indie beef with coco that was settled months ago

>> No.4097533 [DELETED] 

>>4097490
I fucked up

>Basically this >>4097272

>> No.4097617

>>4096982
nobody wants vei to apologize, they want her to fuck off and be a dumb bitch on her own channel

>> No.4097681

>>4097490
based nyan being the responsible adult

>> No.4097708

>>4097617
that's not what your schizo vids say. Look at that shit

>> No.4097742

>>4097708
We don’t want her if she apologizes either

>> No.4097810

>>4096982
>Actual idol that have left Hololive talked about it how they were treated, keep defending it, dude
Retard. That's not an opinion. Cover should be suing her ass. She can eat all the cum she loves to fund her court case

>> No.4097834

>>4096982
>After the actual idols that have left Hololive. Talked about it and the way that they're treated. Keep defending it dude.
Who is she talking about?

>> No.4097848

>>4097834
Aloe

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>>4097012
Good, Kiara btfo again.

>> No.4097859

>>4097834
No one. She made it up.

>> No.4097867

>>4097810
What do you think she's actually saying there? It's a complete non-statement.

>> No.4097942

>>4097810
it is an opinion. What country are you from?

>>4097867
she was talking to her chat so it wasn't even an official statement

>> No.4098032 [DELETED] 

>>4097530
Hypothetically, wouldn't you want Kiara to address comments about VShojo being a terrible agency that the girls keep supporting?
I have not seen the comments section, but I don't think anyone wants to actually cancel Veibae or ruin her career.

>> No.4098053

>>4097942
You are so full of shit it's unreal

>> No.4098057

>>4097942
>official statement
What the fuck does that mean? It wasn't
printed and sent out to the papers with her house crest so it's not official and doesn't count?

>> No.4098087

>>4097490
>>4097163
the colab wasn't canceled because of cover, it was canceled beause they each didnt want the other to suffer due to it/get doxed or harased. if fans though just as big of a fit over nyanners they will cancel that too probably.

>> No.4098126

>>4098032
Does VShojo have an Aloe or a Taiwan tier incident under its belt? There needs to be ammunition if someone's going to be making any sort of claims against it.

>> No.4098202

>>4097867
There is no Hololive idol that have left Hololive and talked about the way they're treated.
>>4097942
Lying is not an opinion.

>> No.4098223

>>4065577
Then let her sex, what's the fucking hold up?

>> No.4098246

>>4098202
we get it you suck corpocock

>> No.4098308

>>4098246
guess it makes sense that vshojo fans are dishonest like their whores

>> No.4098313 [DELETED] 

>>4098087
Nyanners is already infamous with lolicons, they're the majority of her haters alongside a few anti-SJW, lolicons like Hololive, are you sure they're going to throw a fit?

>> No.4098319

>>4098202
okay so you're implying she's an expert on how holo works but intentionally decided to say something different to the world and not her chat
seriously?

>> No.4098360

>>4098246
And yet, it still doesn't make Veibae's statement an opinion. Go share semen with Veibae.

>> No.4098400

>>4098087
>if fans though just as big of a fit over nyanners they will cancel that too probably.
The only ones who will throw a fit are fags from here. And pretty sure any further discussion in this direction will fall squarely under global rule 4 now

>> No.4098448

>>4098400
dont think you understand how gl4 works

>> No.4098529

>>4098360
the title of the schizo vid on the first reply literally says veibae opinion

>> No.4098553

>>4098448
Educate me friend, since you know so much. Why wouldn't talking about trying to shitfling and throw tantrums to get a collab cancelled fall under raiding?

>> No.4098580

>>4098319
She can apologize and correct the misinformation that she has made. Instead, she decided to double down and "clear things up". I know she has a lot of experience opening her mouth to take in dicks, but she should learn to close it if she doesn't know what she is talking about.

>> No.4098599

>>4064415
She just sound misinformed but I also respect not backing down yet not pushing it further, she clearly understands how to handle this by simply putting all the cards on the table.

>> No.4098609

>>4098246
Says the one choking on cock

>> No.4098611

>>4097012
So... we won?
All that remains is us being villainized for gatekeeping.

>> No.4098619

>>4098529
Holy fuck, you are actually retarded.

>> No.4098667

>>4098580
There's nothing to apologize for. This isn't saudi arabia where you get beheaded for having an opinion

>> No.4098747

>>4064609
Stuff like this reminds of Mocca who on a stream said it got to the pre-final phase of the auditions but didn't made it to the finals and also said he/she wouldn't apply to Hololive again because of the bad talk he/she did in the past about Cover.
It really made me feed the rrat that no one expected HoloEN to blow up on the vtuber community on the west and thus they (indies and casual) thought they could talk shit about Cover and be scotfree from it and BAM! HoloEN literally not only dominates the western vtuber scene but also a great part of the anime community and thus all those people now are soft back pedaling on their thoughts and some of them even with the intention to leech from this.
And assuming they did their Aloe reps outside the normalfag excuse, they realized even if Cover do not mind the shit talk the wotas do

>> No.4098759

>>4098619
you can't even recognize what an opinion is versus and official statement, quit straining yourself

>> No.4098905

>>4097848
Even Aloe after her graduation didn't shit talked about Cover...and actually is still in contact with gen 5.
Hell, even the Winnie the Pooh's cock sucker ice gremlin and friends didn't shit talked about Cover despite the could.
Literally just made up shit to feel superior.

>> No.4099104

Oh boy. She's collabing with Nyanners instead? Doesn't the nips hate her because she watches pirated anime on stream?

>> No.4099137

>>4098747
>bitchy chuubas and adjacent anime ecelebs start talking shit about Hololive
>Holo Myth becomes a massive market success overnight
>all of those chuubas and ecelebs suddenly change tunes and suddenly act all friendly with Cover, its talents, and especially Holo Myth
That’s honestly my favorite thing to come out of Holo Myth’s massive success.

>> No.4099255

>>4099104
Do we care what the nips think?

>> No.4099273

>>4099137
can you actually post evidence of these bitchy chuubas and adjacent anime ecelebs talking shit

>> No.4099300

>>4099104
wow that one blog had some negative opinions on fair use which means the entire country/community hates her!

>> No.4099372

>>4099104
who gives a shit lol

>> No.4099392

>>4096518
>the character behavior
the girls aren't AIs anon, nor do most of them stick to their characters role most of the time
Cover has not shit on how they act

>> No.4099515

>Vei cancels collab to save her and Kiara some grief from a pack of assholes being assholes
>Nyanners is up instead
Are you all just going to casually ignore that Holo and Cover seem to be really engaged all of a sudden with VShojo collabs? Maybe they let the Vei thing happen because Kiara wanted it from a pre-VShojo plan for Veibae and didn't want to upset their talent. So with Vei out they should be relieved and just let the whole thing die, and yet here we are. And everybody is casually ignoring the massive possibility, based on what Mousey accidentally dropped, that she and Mori might do one as well.

So, what's Cover's endgame? Niji-EN debuts and suddenly VShojo is un-blacklisted? Maybe, just maybe, Cover doesn't give two fucks about what Veibae said, and it is only you who did? And maybe Cover doesn't give two fucks about whatever "harm" you think VShojo is going to do to Hololive. The /vt/ schizo fanbase is not in tune with HL at all.

>> No.4099733

>>4099273
Ask the anon I’m responding to, he hopefully has better examples than me.
Biggest ones I can remember are Mocca, Vei, and Connor.
You could probably find something by checking out Trash Taste’s podcasts on vtubers pre-Myth. As for Mocca, he’s a menhera and his tweets have since been deleted. And as for Vei, just see >>4064415

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>>4099515
>Maybe, just maybe, Cover doesn't give two fucks about what Veibae said, and it is only you who did?
Look at Twitter and Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/nfbvpr/kiara_just_confirmed_she_got_permission_to_collab/ (note the thread was locked)

As for the rest of your post, don't really care for the moment

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>>4099733
this is such a lazy reply

>> No.4100073 [DELETED] 

>>4099989
Not him, the Cannur thing is true, compared to the other two from TT he wasn't interested on vtubers until the Mori collab happened

>> No.4100890

>>4099937
Are you seriously going to act like there aren't Redditors and Twitterfags that also use /vt/? What mythical dreamworld are you living that you think 4chan is still isolated from the rest of the internet and not overrun with normalfags from other places?

Doesn't really matter anyway, you're all part of the same anti-crowd. Do the rest of the world a favor and just start talking in broken translated English to complete the Zhang motif.

>> No.4100972

>>4100890
Cope, Seethe and Dilate. Better yet kill yourself

>> No.4101736 [DELETED] 

>>4100890
Retard, I don’t give a fuck, Hololive can collab with VShojo if they want to, but don’t act like there wasn’t going to be backslash from a portion of the fanbase.
Stop trying to blame anons for everything; yes, there are some outside of here, but you’re acting like other platforms users don’t have a mind.

Básicamente, cállate hijo puta, deja de ser una marica delicada y acepta que no a todos les gustan tus perras, yo simplemente las ignoro.

This>>4100972

>> No.4101910

>>4064415
>"I'm not even the one pushing for the collab to happen"
So Kiara has been bugging Vei until she said "ok, whatever, you dumb whore, we can collab"
Based.

>> No.4102310

>>4101910
Kiara and Mori are always the problem.

>> No.4103219

>>4098223
Hololive recruits talents, emphasis on T A L E N T. Veibae's only talent is to commission lewds of her avatar

>> No.4103250

veibae is currently live playing Conker's Bad Fur Day!
https://www.twitch.tv/veibae

>> No.4104215

>>4099989
Holy newfag
https://youtu.be/jR9sNVWHUZU
Also not too long ago two of the NijiEN were exposed of backstabbing one of their friends on their previous life.
Literally the western vtubing and even the anituber one changed ever since Melody and HoloEN debuted.

>> No.4104750

>>4104215
this baka is gonna end up having a #metoo moment I can just feel it. why is he talking about how he done nothing wrong at the end?freudian slip?

>> No.4104785

>>4084878
>projection
>straight up lying
You're a faggot.

No one in the threads is interested in making Veibae lose her job. As far as I know, the only thing people want is for Veibae to either apologize for straight up slandering Cover, Hololive and their talents, or have Hololive simply drop the collab and go back to business as usual.

The Aloe situation was bad because the overraction and the excessively toxic entitlement culture that exists in Japan.

>> No.4105559

>>4064840
"having standards"

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