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40604482 No.40604482 [Reply] [Original]

I recently learned that Hololive used to have a Chinese language branch, but was scrapped after the Kiryu Coco Incident. I hear people talk about graduated Holomembers like Coco and Rushia a lot, but I never hear anyone talk about the defunct Hololive CN branch. Why?

>> No.40604571

Because 5 of them acted like chinese stereotypes and losing them was a good thing.

>> No.40604607

>>40604482
There's nothing to talk about you retarded newfag.

>> No.40604640

>>40604571
>>40604571
>Because 5 of them acted like chinese stereotypes
Could you elaborate?

>> No.40604754

>>40604640
i dont know too much, but one of them rrated on chinese forums about coco

>> No.40604786

if you tell me where civia went to i'll be more interested. I already know spade echo's

>> No.40604846

>>40604482
>I recently learned
Why is it so common for newfags to just proudly expose themselves like this now

>> No.40604871

>>40604640
Have you heard of muke bag?

>> No.40604961

>>40604640
fucking newfag
lurk moar

>> No.40604987

>>40604607
What do you mean? People still find plenty of other things to talk about other Holomembers that got graduated.

>>40604754
So one of them complained about the Coco Kiryu Incident?

>>40604846
I don't care about you petty seniority ranking

>>40604871
I don't believe I have

>> No.40605070

A couple of them went rogue and directly encouraged their fans to “wheelbarrow” (their term for their livechat spam script) JP talents, to force management to hand over their CN branch IP

>> No.40605072

>>40604571
Other 4 whores aside, Chowa was innocent and stayed out of drama you faggot

>> No.40605127

>>40604482
I'd rather Tempiss over Zhangs
Cry about it, Unichud

>> No.40605141

>>40604482
>Rushia
>graduated
Is that how we're gonna remember it?

>> No.40605158

>>40604987
https://files.catbox.moe/18rmna.webm

>> No.40605187

Yagoo did what McArthur couldn't and nukes the chinks before they became a problem

>> No.40605195
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>>40604640
Artia and her discord built spam discord and encourage Chick spam Kiryu Coco.

Andy "were" created by them and 1 of Andy become Judas and exposed them that HololiveCN want Yagoo out of CEO position and want puppet CEO instead.

Culprit
Artia, Rosalyn and Civia

Innocent
Spade, Dorris and Yogiri

>> No.40605199

>>40604482

Because 1 one of them was 4chan's oshi. Like 100% pushed to the moon way back when vtubers threads weren't the toxic hellhole that got booted out of /jp/.

And then discord messages got out that she organized most of the harassment operations. "Allegedly", someone would say.

She lived in America at the time, why the fuck would she jeopardize her career like that??

So yeah, no one wants to badmouth her. And defending her actions is just as useless. So people shut up.

Also as an aside, only 3 of them actually joined on that. 2 of them stayed out and got off scot-free. They're nice.

>> No.40605208

>>40604482
>I recently learned that Hololive used to have a Chinese language branch
Kys tourist, go back

>> No.40605264

>>40605195
So an attempted hostile takeover by bilibili?

>> No.40605317

>>40605199
Because Artia is Werewolf warrior who attack Taiwan politician in the past. She pround about it.

Do your Chink rep

>> No.40605439

100% chance that every poster here is post council shitters pretending to be "oldfags"

>> No.40605440
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>>40604482
Because everything has been discussed years ago you newfag piece of shit

>> No.40605453

>>40604871
what is muke bag?

>> No.40605456

>>40605070
>to force management to hand over their CN branch IP
I am a bit confused. Were they trying to break off Hololive CN into a separate company?

>>40605158
So she had an accent? I don't see any problem there. In fact, I might even say it's a little cute.

>>40605195
>Andy "were" created by them and 1 of Andy become Judas and exposed them that HololiveCN want Yagoo out of CEO position and want puppet CEO instead.
So they wanted a new CEO?

>>40605195
>Culprit
>Artia, Rosalyn and Civia
>Innocent
>Spade, Dorris and Yogiri
Ah, so half were good, while half were bad

>> No.40605459

>>40604482
Didn't one of them get kidnapped for 6 months or some shit and then reappear like nothing happened?

>> No.40605522

>>40605264
Yes, Bilibili is mastermind who give HololiveCN's power for rebellion.

Civia also good actress who use her's love to Aqua manipulate Aqua Chink fags by Aqua song.

Artia is retard who dirty her hand by encourage or turn blind eyes when Artiafags rescruit spammer in her own discord. They event distributed Wheelburrow in their place.

>> No.40605529

>>40605440
>Because everything has been discussed years ago you newfag piece of shit
Why do people still talk about other graduated vtubers then?

>> No.40605550

>>40605453
It is a bag of muke.

>> No.40605623

>>40605199
>lived in America at the time
the most deranged internet nationalists always turn out to be living in countries better than the one they claim they'd die for
easier to romanticise a place when you don't actually have to put up with its bullshit

>> No.40605656

>>40605459
nah that was some rando and happend last year. Cn was disbanded 2020

>> No.40605676

>>40605550
what is a bag of muke?
like isn't this should be like a bottle of muke?

>> No.40605771

>>40605456
HololiveCN was already separate, to enter China you need a partnership with chink companies in the first place. CN branch was a joint venture with bilibili. However IP laws still exist so they can’t just grab the assets and split off the brand

>> No.40605817

What ever happened to Chowa anyway? Is her reincarnation still around?
Also wasn't she a literal Taiwanese?

>> No.40605848

incidentally, are there archives for these whores?
I've been thinking of learning chink and want some audio input to get used to its sound...

>> No.40605867

>>40605456
>I am a bit confused. Were they trying to break off Hololive CN into a separate company?
The people behind holoCN was a third party, they needed them to be chinese because bilibili demands it. After Coco's shit they went super ultranationalistic, and blundered a lot of things on the CN side. At this point everyone knew CN would get disbanded, but these guys (the chinese managers) told everyone that cover would simply let them be indies and let them keep the model. Turns out it was false and Artia had a meltdown, and turned into another anti. That's basically it.

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>>40605456
>I am a bit confused. Were they trying to break off Hololive CN into a separate company?

No and yes, kind of independence branch.

>So they wanted a new CEO?
Yes and they want massive Hololive member graduation for compensation to them. They want Subaru, Korone, Fubuki, Haachama, Tokino Sora and Kiryu Coco graduation.

Pic related

>> No.40605909

>>40604482
Because fuck China that's why

>> No.40605926

>>40605456
Bilibili and the girls basically used themselves and Coco's situation as leverage to get the character rights from Cover. Cover said "Fuck that shit I'm going home" gave Yogiri a final 3D live because she was just a nice girl caught in the crossfire.

>> No.40605962

>>40605529
People do still talk about holoCN, you people being fucking newfags just haven't been around long enough to see it or recognize them
Chowa and Civia are often mentioned in the context of what could have been if CN hadn't fucked it up
Reaction images and memes involving Artia still get posted somewhat regularly too, she was the originator of DYRBI for fucks sake

>> No.40606011

>>40605926
I'm amazed at how people spout shit they don't even know about with such confidence. Like why pretend you were there?

>> No.40606154

>>40605195
>innocent
>spade
ahahaHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.40606218

>>40605926
No, Yogiri paid 3D concert by herself but Cover did't cut revenue from her

>> No.40606226

>>40605848
Moona’s collabs with Artia are still up. Behold the autismkino
https://youtu.be/CFwg6tjMzS0
https://youtu.be/p7_XjopSsL0

>> No.40606234

>>40605456
Wasn't spade echo not really innocent, since a lot of people "hated" her because she's an actual bitch to others?

>> No.40606242
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40606242

This thread has to be an elaborate ruse.

>> No.40606278

>>40605771
So they wanted Bilibili to take full control of the CN branch?

>>40605866
>>40605866
>Yes and they want massive Hololive member graduation for compensation to them.
Compensate them for what? The Coco Taiwan controversy?
>They want Subaru, Korone, Fubuki, Haachama, Tokino Sora and Kiryu Coco graduation.
Now that is a big ask

>>40605962
>People do still talk about holoCN, you people being fucking newfags just haven't been around long enough to see it or recognize them
I still learned about Coco, Rushia, and Sana well before I learned about Holo CN

>>40606011
About what percentage of the information in this thread is actually true? I am just kind of taking people at their word right now.

>> No.40606323

>>40605867
Didn’t one of the Chinese managers end up in NijiEN staff?

>> No.40606340

>>40606154
She innocent about harrassment campaign to Kiryu Coco but not her behaviour.

>> No.40606393

>>40605866
>Tokino Sora graduation
I'm almost certain Yagoo would hang himself if she ever fell victim to the Chinese.

>> No.40606407

>>40606278
Yea, this is actually Chinese standard playbook. See: ASUS, ARM, etc

>> No.40606432

>>40604786
Do you still get banned for HoloCN pl posting?
She's right below her old self in the Chinese Category on the vtuber wiki.

>> No.40606527
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40606527

>>40605127
Hololive CN had Artia who was the most anti-unicorn talent Cover has ever had.

>> No.40606618

>>40606278
>About what percentage of the information in this thread is actually true?
You're straight getting information from a telephone game, no one in this thread was actually there when it happened, let alone watched the CNs

>> No.40606703

>>40606527
She was pro-unicorn, she just wanted you to unicorn for her

>> No.40606716

>>40605158
Ngl that accent is pure sex.

>> No.40606739

>>40606278
>Compensate them for what? The Coco Taiwan controversy?
This is a Chink tactic. They will shout to you that you wrong to them and demand our sorry. When we sorry, they will say not sorry enough and demand more. Bleed Hololive dry.

Until Hololive can not sorry anymore and destroyed

>They want Subaru, Korone, Fubuki, Haachama, Tokino Sora and Kiryu Coco graduation.
>Now that is a big ask.

Yes, they massive spam every Hololive members after that but due to lack manpower. They decided to focus fire only Fubuki, Haschama and Coco to Coco alone.

>> No.40606755

The chunks betrayed us all

>> No.40606840

>>40604482
The only one who was regrettable was Yogiri, the others were mainlanders, with all the mental illness that implies.
Chinese audiences are not worth it.

>> No.40606912

>>40606716
well you're in luck cause she is a literal prostitute now

>> No.40606919

>>40606393
I'm certain Yagoo would hang every Chinaman himself if that happened.

>> No.40606960

>>40606703
she told unikeks she didn't love them and they were retarded to believe chuuba who said they do
I miss that side of her

>> No.40606964

>>40606278
>About what percentage of the information in this thread is actually true? I am just kind of taking people at their word right now.

We have Tatsunoko schizo who will tell only truth about this incident in here.

He is Andy's Judas

>> No.40607024

>>40604571
fpbp

>> No.40607121

>>40604640
>he doesnt even know about chink stereotype
go back to school, faggot. or i'll call jannies since you're an underage

>> No.40607188

>>40604482
Because they’re kind of like Hitomi Chris, a despised abomination that we sent down the memory hole. Them being forgotten is kind of the point. The reason being what all the other anons have said

>> No.40607197

>>40606278
>About what percentage of the information in this thread is actually true
You can see by yourself current state of Vtuber in China. All of them under Bilibili control. Nijisanji there is not really nijisanji.

>> No.40607258

>>40604482
It's quite simple. Coco and Rushia were about 100x more popular in the west than the CN girls. The only CN girl who got any traction in the west was Artia and she burnt bridges with how she handled the Coco situation. She was also not very well-liked in 4chan to begin with because of her Twitch humour and DYRBI.

>> No.40607273

>>40606912
Nice.

>> No.40607328

>>40606278
>About what percentage of the information in this thread is actually true?
It's pretty accurate.

>> No.40607341

>>40605195
>innocent
>spade
that whore has never been innocent in her life

>> No.40607372
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>>40607258
>DYRBI
We love that though?

>> No.40607391

>>40606919
They spammed Sora single time. Chink in Bilibili want to hang them because of this. That why they change spamming policy to Coco and who collab with Coco afterward.

>> No.40607405

>>40607258
Plus Aqua and FBK were the #1 vtubers in China and that's unacceptable for zhangs.

>> No.40607480

>>40607341
She not involve about spamming Hololive like Civia, Rosalyn and Artia did

>> No.40607484

>>40607328
I would say a guy talking in cryptids pretending to be chinese isn't the definition of accurate

>> No.40607523

>>40607258
Civia’s YouTube streams… forgotten…

>> No.40607563

>>40607484
Feel free to disprove him. From what I remember that seems accurate. Pretty much says the same as that zhang battle document.

>> No.40607577
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40607577

>>40606278
Pretty accurate.
I mean they streamed wolf warrior movie with their EN fan while all hololive was on spam fire. Wolf warrior is China's ultra nationalist movie

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40607623

Love my autistic card game loving wife.

>> No.40607677
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40607677

I still have several Yogiri cover songs in my playlist
I continued checking via her Youtube reposter for a bit after she reincarnated as Kuri but she mostly sang Chinese songs which wasn't really my thing. I heard the Kuri account got screwed too however, not sure how things have been for her since then

>> No.40607678

>>40606960
Holy shit I love this woman. Like I've actually got butterflies right now wtf.

>> No.40607681

>>40604482
>Why does no one ever talk an entire Hololive branch?
because it was a failed branch.
It was not even popular with the target audience for which it was created.
the most popular was spade Echo who barely reached 200k on bilibili and someone like artia who's 2 fans /here/ (i'm pretty sure it's 1 is artia herself sucking her own dick) loves to talk so much like she's a good streamer only reached 160k.

>> No.40607682

>>40604482
What, should people make a thread every time they take out the trash?

>> No.40607693

>>40607577
Wolf warrior is just chinese rambo. Complete nothingburger of a movie.

>> No.40607760

>>40607693
it became a term...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_warrior_diplomacy

>> No.40607799

>>40607682
>niji graduates one person
>holofags make countless threads about it
>bring up holo graduations
>d-do we need threads about this?!?

>> No.40607800

I feel bad for Yogiri.
That's it.

>> No.40607825 [DELETED] 

>>40607678
don't. bugwomen will always betray you for the chairman.

>> No.40607839

>>40607563
>Feel free to disprove him.
He's repeating shitposts that someone repeated before that were taken from someone that took it from another thread that was taken from another guy and etc etc etc
It's too jumbled up, in the first place bilibili wasn't helping holoCN, they were actively fucking with them, and the people shitposting about Coco were the CN managers, Artia could have or could have not been part of it and Rosalyn was the only confirmed person that legitimately antied Coco

>> No.40607852

Never trust the chinese when it comes to business

>> No.40607865

>>40607760
Doesn't mean everyone who watches the movie adheres to it. If retards called themselves the rambo party it wouldn't make me hate rambo the movie.

>> No.40607875

>>40607852
>when it comes to business
that part is superfluous

>> No.40607937

>>40606960
do you really believe it?

>> No.40607971

Lmao, all of them chose to leave hololive because they wanted to keep their Chinese audience by doing so. However, they all failed, so what's the point to discuss?

>> No.40607987 [DELETED] 

>>40606527
insects are incapable of understanding human emotion

>> No.40607990

>cover was pretty clear with why they got rid of Rushia
>all they said about holocn was that it wasn't making enough money so they dropped it
Why wouldn't they be clear that they dropped it due to some conspiracy by the talents to undermine and take over hololive? Almost like that isn't what happened and it is just a schizo conspiracy theory.

>> No.40607992 [DELETED] 

Whole lotta dog eating zhangs defending their subhuman behavior in this thread right now

>> No.40608023

>>40607865
so it's just a coincidence that she decided to do a watchalong of that movie while the chinks were going full force against coco and other talents?
dyrbi?

>> No.40608065

>>40607990
Hoped to get back into the chink market once this blew over
Are you retarded or something

>> No.40608094 [DELETED] 

>>40604482
kek this is the funniest thing out of this whole Taiwan drama - absolutely nobody liked chinks. Coco, Rushia even Aloe still get fanarts especially group fanart with whole hololive next to them but those 6 chinks? fucking nothing because no one wants to even remember them. you reap what you sow bugs good riddance

>> No.40608096

>holofags complaining about wanting more women due to all the males debuting
>cheered when hololive dropped an entire branch of girls
This was the future you asked for.

>> No.40608139

>>40608096
en wasnt even a thing back then you zhang nijinigger

>> No.40608156

>>40604482
I feel like the CN branch wasn't really all that popular outside of China.
But to be fair, I didn't really pay attention to any vtubers outside of Myth at the time.

>> No.40608176

what's funny is that even after all that people still watch aqua clips on b2
a lot of her clips have tens of thousands of views

>> No.40608185

>>40608096
screenshotting this for the eventual holoID removal
:)

>> No.40608196

>>40607839
>It's too jumbled up, in the first place bilibili wasn't helping holoCN, they were actively fucking with them, and the people shitposting about Coco were the CN managers, Artia could have or could have not been part of it and Rosalyn was the only confirmed person that legitimately antied Coco
Damn now I am really getting conflicting info here. I will probably have to do my own research at some point. I guess you can't count on 4chin schizos for reliable info.

>> No.40608199

>>40608065
>get back into the market
>after killing the branch that represents that market
Are you? That would be like if they dropped HoloEN but then tried to get english speakers to watch HoloJP. It doesn't make any sense.

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>>40607405
This is fun story begin

They want Fubuki kill Coco in early stage of harrasment campaign or everything Fubuki built in Bilibili side were destroyed by them.

Fubuki said " Fuck yxu" to them and never mention about them ever again and that is origin of Fubuki " Are you happy" and chink spam Fubuki " Are you happy" back to her.

Kiryu Coco may not survive if Fubuki didn't want to eat Takoyaki with her.
When every member unperson Coco.
But Fubuki change the tide of war by standing with Coco until the end of war.

Fubuki's bravery spark the hope in Hololive and Chink made terrible enemy that day.

>> No.40608225

>>40608023
>blurry ass picture
Literally nobody back then watched the CNs on bilibili so every single image you see could be completely made up and you wouldn't know

>> No.40608241

>>40607865
did you know that the main actor of that movie was cancelled in china for using an Iphone (USA) instead of a xiomi (CN)?

>> No.40608253

>>40608176
>chinese audience
>tens of thousands of views
yeah, I don't think those are good numbers, anon, there's like a trillion of them

>> No.40608261

>>40608199
Literally no one in china cared about holocn you stupid dog eating animal
Fire cn, open a new one was what they were hoping to achieve

>> No.40608290

>>40604640
>he missed the whole missile crisis arc
Sucks to be you

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40608306

>CN haters are all ESL
Really makes you think.

>> No.40608305

Holy shit I didn't know kronii worked in China before this

>> No.40608307

>>40607987
Ok, I gotta ask about the elephant in the room here. How much of the hate towards Hololive CN is rooted in genuine criticism as opposed to just blatant anti-Chinese racism? Because I'm seeing a lot of that here.

>> No.40608315

>>40607839
Fuck off retard

Search more about Whitell and Andy before you shitpost other info.

>> No.40608386

>>40604482
Because it happened long ago and anyone who isn't a newfag already knows about it and
>chinese
No one genuinely cares.

>> No.40608407

>>40608261
>source: it came to me in a dream

>> No.40608409

>>40608225
anon it's not healthy to be in this much denial about reality
I liked her, but she turned out to be a snake like all bugwomen. We just have to accept it.

>> No.40608442

>>40607825
>for the chairman.
She loves her country. I can't fault someone for that.

>> No.40608461

>>40604482
The best part was Coco graduated anyway ah ah ah ah ah

>> No.40608464

They died before the big boom with Myth, so nobody paid attention to them

>> No.40608472

>>40608096
It's actually a whole chinese branch dropped hololive at that time, because they thought hololive wouldn't survive without bilibili. In fact, they sabotaged cover and kept talking shit about the coco thing at that time.

>> No.40608499

>>40608407
damn it's almost like it took them a year to give them a redebut
but you wouldnt know that cause youre either a retarded zhang wolf warrior with a tiny dog dick or some fucking newfag nijinigger that talks shit about things you werent here for

>> No.40608500 [DELETED] 

>>40608307
I'm racist because of they did.

>> No.40608506

>>40608307
If they anti'd holos then i'll anti them simple as. I'm watching all holo with no race bias

>> No.40608510

Jesas newfag christ. Learn to fucking google faggot. Also,
>Rushia
>graduated
KEK!

>> No.40608525

>>40608442
I can. being an npc for any cause isn't commendable.

>> No.40608542

>>40608409
Artia was a bitch, there's no need to use made up shitposts about her when you could just bitch about her with the truth. And for god's sake, being chinese doesn't turn your computer into 240p monitor, a blurry SCREENSHOT is insane and might as well look like a joke

>> No.40608563

>>40608203
BASED FOX
I kneel

>> No.40608617

>>40608307
china is asshole

>> No.40608619 [DELETED] 

>>40608307
they and their mods literally helped the chink asshurt wave by giving them info
them being chinese only reaffirmed the fact that chinks are not human and every time you treat them as if they were human beings, they will backstab you for the glory of their hive

>> No.40608636

>>40608472
They harass Coco to this day. Artia got hers though, the ugly judas

>> No.40608638

>>40608306
>ESL
funny coming from you. lingling

>> No.40608658

In retrospective, the things that i remember about the chinkout are the spergout of the hololive moments channel and the retarded manifesto that they posted.
Oh yeah and the images of the chink gatherings with aqua and matsuri crossdressers and everyone on the thread at the time laughing at them.

>> No.40608660

>>40608307
I hate what they did and not their race.
Betrayal deserve Cocytus

>> No.40608666

>>40604482
Because this board is reddit and so they have to side with the Redditor.

>> No.40608718

>>40608666
except that coco wasnt even their first target you newfag

>> No.40608743

>>40608510
>>Rushia
>>graduated
Yeah I know that she technically was "terminated", but no one really cares about the exact terminology here.

>> No.40608871

>>40604640
they told me they love me long time

>> No.40608905

>>40608307
A lot of hate for mainland china grew from that indicent. It was a fucking shitshow for a good month at least where misinformation flew all over and chinese trolls showed up on 4chan and reddit trying to cause chaos and genuinely painted a lot of the fans from that time's image of china. Before then pulling videos and memes from bilibili wasn't that uncommon.
Now Bae had to hide she even spoke any chinese from her debut and panicked when she accidentally spoke it on stream. China is persona non grata among the older holofags.

>> No.40608973

>>40607577
I watched this in real time with them, lol. It's a pretty cheesy action movie.
their fate was already sealed long before they watched it though

I can't believe I defended Artia so long only for her to turn around and become interested in NFTS though

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>>40608638
>period instead of comma
You tried.

>> No.40609085

>>40608905
Also include how they harassed coco constantly for a good year and apparently still continue to harass her even now though far less than before.

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>>40608658
There was an anon who claimed to be part of the Hololive Moments channel in the numbers thread the other day when everyone was sperging out over the new homo announcement

>> No.40609114

>>40607341
She graduated early and complained a bit because she wasn't even announced in their list of graduating members, IIRC

>> No.40609150

>>40608307
The same people defend the great Satan of Hololive.

>> No.40609161

>>40608718
This
NGA want to kill Haachama but they change target to Coco. This is reason why " Coco took bullet for Haachama" came form that hell hole.

>> No.40609197

>>40605195
holy fucking ESL. this is the most indog post I've ever read on 4channel

>> No.40609256

>>40609150
artia?

>> No.40609292

>>40609114
She graduated around the same time as everyone else, but she never actually did a graduation stream because she was laying the groundwork for a new channel to hold her fans over until Kagura Nana finished the Taffy model. Instead what she did leading up to it was her big "100 Fall Guys wins endurance, encouraging stream snipers to make it as hard as possible for her" send off and then on the day of her graduation posting a highlights video of that with a message at the end instead of doing anything special. Doris was the one who pushed her graduation to be early most likely because she knew the second she left, the allegations about her were going to come out and wanted to cash in before it'd happen.

>> No.40609320

>>40608905
>implying that people here didn't hate them before for their shitty behavior.

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>>40604482
>>40608307
Just watch the Depressed Nousagi video about the Taiwan incident.

>> No.40609352

One person also tried to spread rrats that Spade was doing compensated dating, and the likely culprit for that specific rumor was Artia.

>> No.40609434

>>40604482
because nobody watched them
Artia was the only popular one on 4chan with Yogiri behind her. The other ones were never discussed.

>> No.40609435

>>40609085
It's far less because Coco channel has anti-spam system which they tested it in Coco's channel.

Some Judas stole CV-6 spam technology to Youtube and Cover for reverse engineer too.

Original Andy also live in Sianghai and effect with Zero Covid lock down. KARMA BITCH

>> No.40609446

>>40609161
NGA didn't care about Haato's situation until people started looping her and Coco together. The "punishment" had already happened to her on bilibili so anyone that was a fan of her there had been ready to move on, then Coco did it and people assumed that Coco was poking the bear and rubbing it in, which got people mad again. Then since everyone kept making art of Coco with Haato, everyone assumed that Haato didn't actually get into trouble and started harassing her too.

>> No.40609504

>>40609092
harassing a girl for over a year because you were triggered by a flag is 100% the same as saying you dont like homos on 4chan
chinkbugs lol

>> No.40609518

one part I'm not fully believing is the "They were going to keep their models until management found out Artia betrayed them" rrat
It sounds more like bullshit CN management made up to make cover look bad

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>>40609323
What if Depression Nousaki used information from me?

>> No.40609544

>>40609504
I mean, people did try wheelbarrowing homos because they were being discussed on this site in the past, so I agree, it is.

>> No.40609571

Because literally nobody cared about them and anyone who says otherwise is a newfag LARPing as an oldfag.

I was around.

The CN branches were LITERAL 3views on a GOOD day. Yes Vtubing was smaller back then but compared to the rest of Hololive they were pulling in dogshit numbers. Fucking Sora or Aki Rose would have more viewerrs.

>> No.40609585

>>40609504
Well, it will be if it lasts a year.

>> No.40609592 [DELETED] 

>>40608307
I was awakened to the horrors of the bugmen by this incident. Now I hate me some bugmen.

>> No.40609601

>>40609446
They fucking care anon but they want us to think they don't care for moral highground reason.

>> No.40609603

>>40609571
Civia's youtube debut was cute and I'm tired of pretending it wasn't.

>> No.40609606

>>40609320
Of course they'd been shitty before. Choco had to cut them off completely and they harassed the fuck out of Pekora because of a rumored stream that she never planned but those were mostly before the boom. The main hate is from the boom times. I don't think there are that many oldfags from before the /jp/ schism around here.

>> No.40609635

>>40604482
the bait, anons, the bait...

>> No.40609643

>>40609085
They still harass Aqua and Fubuki too.

>> No.40609662 [DELETED] 

>>40604482
>>40604640
I found this ages ago, I can't personally verify.
https://imgur.com/a/5Lgmho0

from youtube
watch?v=2xB_3GJ39YQ

>>40608307
The massive and disproportionate chinkout over such a small thing made me 180 and hate all nationalist chinks. I now consume all anti-CCP rhetoric.
Fubuki gave up the entire CN market, but she still suffered bot spam from bugmen last year.

>> No.40609687

>>40609571
Artia was like a 4view on Twitch at that point

>> No.40609717

>>40609544
>>40609585
tranny fujos side with china, surprising nobody

>> No.40609768

>>40609571
Yeah, it's really more a statement on old Hololive in general. Nobody talks about any of the stuff from back then or the people from back then unless they completely changed and revived their careers in the modern day. Like people talk about Miko but they don't talk about the Sakura Miko Project. If CN had existed just a few years later, they'd also be in fanart and shit like that just by nature of existing.

>> No.40609771

>>40609717
I'm just saying, if you get to the point of wheelbarrowing someone because you got mad seeing them posted in a 4chan thread, I feel like you lose any moral high ground.

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>>40609662
>https://imgur.com/a/5Lgmho0
oh man I remember that shit show

>> No.40609807

>>40609662
They can't spam Fubuki when Coco around but they can spam Fubuki again but can't spam Kson.

Something strange happen

>> No.40609815

>>40604571
I'd say fpbp but this is common knowledge

>> No.40609848

>>40609768
which is silly because they were active longer than Sana and Aloe

>> No.40609870

>>40609717
Yes, I support xenophobia and raping shotas. Why don't you?

>> No.40609882

>>40607865
There's no such thing called the "Rambo Diplomacy"
but, the Wolf Warrior Diplomacy is a real thing. See >>40607760

>> No.40609923

>>40609807
Most of them died to Zero COVID Policy.
Main spammer got YEET by YT due to them spamming Abe's Funeral livestream.

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She wouldn't have supported tempus.

>> No.40609988

>>40607678
She just said that to appeal to retard like you and seel them NFT afterward, don't be fooled. Everyone who use "parasocial" "incel" "unicorn" in this community is either a manipulated retard, or something that what to use you and not for your own good but only for their own benefit.

>> No.40609997

>>40604482
It's a dead topic. It has no use bringing it up whenever a newfag comes around.

>> No.40609998

>>40609848
I still hate nijis because of Aloe. That model was sexy as fuck.

>> No.40610019

Reminder that Artia tried the face streamer route and was told directly to her face that's she's too ugly for it.

>> No.40610107

I like how everyone shitposts with chink pictures that could be very well made up but no one ever shitposts about Doris's confirmed shit, just because it was unrelated to Coco

>> No.40610134

>>40610019
And other stories antis made up!

>> No.40610138

>>40610107
ntr?

>> No.40610159

>>40609606
>harassed the fuck out of Pekora
oh yes, I remember the gore on their hashtags

>> No.40610163

>>40610019
I mean, what was she thinking, she didn't put makeup on, she clearly didn't shower, and she didn't do anything to her camera so the whole stream had the "american movie mexico scene" yellow filter over everything. It's like she did it as a joke and intentionally did everything wrong.

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>>40609998
She was in the Mario Kart tournament the other day though

>> No.40610190

>>40609923
Yes, main Andy was dead 4-5 months ago from Covid ( source: Bahamut) but I don't here any news about Andy in Thailand and Indonesia for a while.

>> No.40610197 [DELETED] 

>>40609687
Yes I guess 1000 viewers technically counts as a 4view. But don't act like that was a regular occurrence, she would hover around 400-600 viewers usually. People knew Artia from gremlin face and DYRBI memes. She still wasn't talked about in /hlg/ besides the reactionface. And again nobody wants to watch Twitch.

More importantly the Chinks themselves didn't give a shit about CN. And that was the big part. Cover went to the trouble of making a Chinese branch but the Chinese didn't watch any of them, mostly EOPs who were curious about them as an oddity. The Chinese were watching Fubuki and Aqua, hence the massive fallout when they sided with Coco, because obviously they fucking would. That's why you got that insane Chinese fundraiser to buy out Aqua's contract, the massive COPE of the Chink comic showing poor Aqua as a prisoner of Cover, and why Aqua still gets harassed by bugmen to this day.

Translated clips of the CNs? There weren't any. Because any Chinese who could translate also went and learned Japanese and were too busy doing JP to EN videos because even then that's what got clicks and views.

Fucking nobody cared about CN and the relentless concernfagging about them as if they were some prized branch that only "real oldfags" knew about is the worst of the newfag larp trying to fit in, worse than pretending that Ayame used to stream. I'm more willing to believe that people cared about Aloe than I am CN, even though she was around for like 2 weeks.

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>>40610163
>she clearly didn't shower
Imagine the smell.

>> No.40610304

>>40609848
It's not about amount of time, it's when that time happened. If you're the founder of a band and only on their first three albums before you quit and their most popular albums were 7, 8 and 9 with 8 featuring a legendary young guitarist who died tragically. Obviously that young guitarist will be remembered more than the founder. What's weird is not that CN was memoryholed by being in the wrong time, what's bizarre is how there's virtually not a single Hololive purist who tries to include them because at that point it seems like a political correctness issue where they are afraid to include them for political reasons. Like if I was making that Holocure game and I had to accept putting in references to Aloe, I would demand CN references also be included. This weird middle-ground is disingenuous as fuck.

>> No.40610314

>>40604482
They were barely relevant as far as /jp/ was concerned, and hardly anyone talked about any of them except for ironic Artiafags who were constantly trying to stir up shit.

>> No.40610319

>>40610134
No, it's true. I has her's real face photo too. She used too yellow light

>> No.40610357

>>40610197
They'd care more now though. At least they were female.

>> No.40610359

>>40605158
such a shame. I didn't watch her much but I did like what I saw. it's so unfortunate what the CCP brainwashing does to these people, reminds me of the tolkien orcs.

>> No.40610367

>>40610197
Civia, Yogiri and Artia were more talked about than 50% of the JP holomems back then in /jp/. The other 3 were completely irrelevant though

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>>40605158
Cute

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>>40610197
>the massive COPE of the Chink comic showing poor Aqua as a prisoner of Cover
Anyone got a link to this? I remember seeing it back then but never really got the context at the time

>> No.40610491

>>40610197
Another thing I forgot to mention that was funny. So while there were no CN to EN translators for that branch, there were JP to CN translators for the Holos. A fucking lot of them. And then people who only knew CN and EN would take CN translations of JP videos and translate them to EN, which resulted in a bunch of shitty and occasionally funny translations, some of which will still be used for baitposts to this day. There were at least 3-4 channels doing this. So even then nobody fucking translated CN Holos.

You had Chinks translate JP Holos to CN.
You had other Chinks steal those CN translations and turn them to EN.
And then you had Chinks translate JP to EN the biggest of which was obviously Hololive Moments.

Again nobody was translating the CN Holos cause nobody gave a fuck about them.

>> No.40610507

>>40610107
Doris is funny because her situation is fucking ridiculous, yet she still returned and got an audience because she would make fun of her old personas and her old companies despite everyone agreeing that she is kind of a shitty person.

>> No.40610575

>>40610507
Link to her new channel? I know most of their reincarnations but not hers.

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To Whitell aka Andy

I want you dead in piss you should belong.

T. Judas

>> No.40610720

>>40610367
Hololive was still big back then, not as big as it is now, but saying 50% of JP Holos weren't talked about isn't the metric you think it is. Still nobody talks about Gen 0 besides Suisei and Miko. Fubuki, Matsuri and Haachama were the only ones talked about in Gen 1. Subaru hadn't found her place and blown up yet, so the only 2's people talked about were Aqua and occasionally Choco. Gen 3 was a powerhouse so maybe Flare was the only one who got left out and 4 at the time was the shiny new Gen but it was really only all about Coco. It's not like they were talked about more than popular Holos, just the same less popular ones that don't get talked about even now.

>> No.40610807

>>40610575
https://space.bilibili.com/1124440113/

>> No.40610899

>>40610575
>>40610807
and if you look up the name, you'll find old archives of when she returned as a facecam streamer as well as other videos of when she would mock her previous personas.

>> No.40611085

>>40610720
Yes that was the point, as far as this site is concerned, those 3 from CN WERE relevant so I think it's silly to think that nobody cared about them. The real reason why no one talks about them is this is fucking /vt/, this board doesn't even talk about the literal most watched vtuber on the planet because she doesn't speak english, no shit the CNs from 2 years ago don't get any discussion

>> No.40611130

>>40608307
genuine criticism and blatant racism are not mutually exclusive. the shit that the chinks pulled and at the scale that they did it created well-deserved blatant racism.

>> No.40611284

Anyone got a link to artias current channel she sounds based?

>> No.40611419

This thread is a Chink psyop to try and disillusion the masses about the crimes of the CN branch and garner hatred towards vtuber Jesus.

> I just want to know why!
you know damn well what you're doing zhang get back behind your fucking wall

>> No.40611441

Yagoo decided that it would be smarter to hire Americans with superior American work ethic.

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>>40610019
she's rocking that bugman look
and hat matches time of the year too kek

>> No.40611456

>>40610367
>Civia, Yogiri and Artia were more talked about than 50% of the JP holomems
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.40611539

>>40604482
You’re really late to the party on this, matter of fact the entire building is vacant. That being said, the only two that I had genuine interest in watching were Spade and Civia.

>> No.40611543

>>40606912
I'm gonna have to look into that now

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Yogiri...

>> No.40611667

>>40611456
It's true newfagchama, simply because of the fact that most of the older holos were simply not discussed about, Artia and Civia were discussed whenever they streamed (few times on Civia's case), and Yogiri had a lot of clips around, ergo they were more relevant to this site

>> No.40611686

>>40611539
Shit mistyped, I meant Yogiri instead of Spade

>> No.40611700

>>40604482
they were mostly failures locked into a chinese platform and many just didn't care enough to look into them. Funny thing is that with the debut of the EN branch it began a melding of branches when even ID was left to its own devices before.
If the bugmen hasn't been so chinese about it all the CN branch would have had a chance to actually grow a little. Of course it's still speculation since bugs gonna bug no matter the situation and bilibili wanted to get control of cover so it was probably doomed even without the coco shit.

>> No.40611711

>>40611456
NTA. But it's true though? Artia for sure was one of the more talked about vtubers. You new here?

>> No.40611736

Artia was proto-Selen.

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>>40605158

>> No.40611862

I has my oath that I will tell younger generation only the trust and single truth about Kiryu Coco's Taiwan incident

If you want to know any thing or have question. Just ask before I leave.

Thank everyone here for conversation.

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>>40611862
This pic relates

>> No.40611965

>>40610172
what the fuck is this real?

>> No.40612085

>>40611862
What do the chinks think about the whole fiasco after it is all said and done. Do some of them think that they overreacted to a nothingburger and it costed them a branch and access to FBK and Aqua? Or do they have no regrets whatsoever?

>> No.40612126

>>40606278
>About what percentage of the information in this thread is actually true? I am just kind of taking people at their word right now.
Most of it.
Ignore the screeching chink saying it's all lies. Smartest thing cover management ever did was to gtfo of china and dump the ticking time bomb that was some of the cn girls.
Unfortunately that was the last smart thing they ever did.

>> No.40612174

>>40604482
what's there to talk about?

>> No.40612184

>>40610491
Actually I'm pretty sure a lot of Hololive Moment's clips were also JP->CN->EN, I think there used to be some concern about the quality and amount of their clips because of it

>> No.40612338

I must be going crazy because everyone is pretending the larping ESL guy is comprehensible and not calling him a retard

>> No.40612356

>>40610491
>>40612184
>Hololive Moment
Those threats they made. lol

>> No.40612510

>>40612338
newfag

>> No.40612532

>>40612126
The dumbest thing they ever did was opening an English branch and proving they learned nothing from the China mess.

>> No.40612576

>>40612085
Majority is sick about chink behavior or neutral but however by Chink's political, Minority Ultranationalist have louder sound more than majority.

Head of Fubuki fan group( not translation group) who turn back to supporr Fubuki was attacked at train station. They fought to nationalist and Artiafaggots until bitter end.

Aquafags almost have to spam Aqua because Aqua's " Kon Dragon" in Minecraft but Aquafags turn blind eyes about this because they never want to spam Aqua but they still spam Fubuki and Coco.

This is what happpen
What do you think?

>> No.40612637

after Taffy made an English channel, the only thing I wondered was what was stopping Cover from doing that from the beginning. I mean Civia got one after a year, but she was in the US so it was understandable. But Taffy isn't in the US, so if she was able to, what the hell was stopping Cover from doing it back then?

>> No.40612645

>>40612338
Yes he's obviously ESL but not total incomprehensible, and I haven't noticed anything obviously wrong what what he's saying

>> No.40612648

>>40609768
This makes the fomo in me flare up. If only I had paid more attention during azur lane's event and checked out the girls even earlier.

>> No.40612656

>>40610163
>what was she thinking
she thought the audience that stayed with her would be okay with seeing how she actually looked while streaming, and they took that moment of vulnerability to shit on her. Also shows how alone and isolated she was from anyone that could give her good advice after the fallout.

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>>40604482
>we lost artia for reddit dragon
I'll never forgive that boring orange cunt

>> No.40612745

>>40612645
Anonchama... If you want to pretend you're not the same person, you should at least check your post first

>> No.40612818

>>40612745
It's really not me

I am schizo here not that anon

>> No.40612887

>>40608307
>anti-Chinese racism
You have to make it less obvious if you want to engineer an opposition, Zhou.

>> No.40612947

>>40612699
>artia
who?

>> No.40613054

>>40612656
I remember that, it honestly was kinda sad. She was just your regular femcel fujo. Reality must have hit her like a brick wall that day.

>> No.40613077

>>40612699
>we
Fuck off chink lover, hololive is far better off without all of them

>> No.40613119

>>40612356
they really thought they could leverage the channel in order to get ENs to turn on cover and demand coco's resignation. I bet they cried about all the monetization they lost from that channel when they had to pull the trigger on their threat to kill their channel.

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>>40612947
You know who, Why anyone liked Orange dragons content is beyond me. She was reddit distilled and vshojo before vshojo.

>> No.40613225

>>40613054
She chose the wrong side. As overwhelming as the faggotry on reddit and twitter are she would've done way better if she pandered to them instead of the zhangs. She had so many chances to turn it around and just kept fucking it up along with the 1 or 2 other CN branch mate.

>> No.40613263

>>40613054
Ice cold karma

>> No.40613283

>>40612085
About Chinese Tatsunokos
Yes, they are rare breed but exist.

They tried to prevent all misunderstanding in Bilibili but can't because they were all deleted and they were harrased by Artiafaggots and nationalist. Their situation very dengerous at that time but they never stop help Coco and Hololive. They are human in my eyes and they are fucking based who fight for thier love and not hate by some flag.

The fact is they still exist and follow Kson

>> No.40613284

>>40613225
>she would've done way better if she pandered to them instead of the zhangs
Didn't she live in china? Going against them would've been social suicide

>> No.40613321

>>40612699
stop pretending that you watched that 3view twitch nobody

>> No.40613391

>>40613124
I have no idea who artia is, nigga.
I only watch hololive

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>>40613321
Faggot her overwatch streams were kino, the only people who pretended to be fans of streamers they didnt watch were ksons fan

>> No.40613440

>>40613124
If chink didn't make an EN clipper/translation group (Hololive Moments), there would be less english speaking audience and it would be less likely for Cover to hire Kson.
In the end, the origin of the problems goes back to chinks.

>> No.40613454

>>40613435
>likes overwatch
well that explains everything about you

>> No.40613514

>>40613283
it was a lost cause either way since Bilibili started actively working against Hololive's interests when all the crap happened

>> No.40613535

Yogiri should have been spared fuck the other bitches though.

>> No.40613544

>>40613124
Bugmen and their lice eternally seething over a reddit dragon dork from my home state will never not be funny

>> No.40613579

>>40613514
The fact that bilibili and tencent have been banned in the states just goes to show how bought and sold american politicians are

>> No.40613644

>>40613579
*havent

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>>40604640
>cock says taiwan
>even though cock is a japanese national, she was also born in america
>this means america has declared war on china and is stealing the province of taiwan
>WOLF WARRIORS THIS IS JUST LIKE THE KOREAN WAR BATTLE OF THE YALU RIVER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>ドラゴンのように立ち上がる中国の戦士たち!
>so it turns out japanese people take seniority seriously and when a kouhai makes it her business to harass a senpai through secret discord channels, the zaibatsu does not look favorably upon this

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>>40613701
>>WOLF WARRIORS THIS IS JUST LIKE THE KOREAN WAR BATTLE OF THE YALU RIVER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.40613789

>>40613440
>If chink didn't make an EN clipper/translation group (Hololive Moments), there would be less english speaking audience
when people here discuss how they met hololive no one has ever mentioned a clip from HM.
cope

>> No.40613806

>>40613284
I think her best bet would've been to try her best to become a Canadian citizen and stream from maple land

>> No.40613842

>>40611419
Meds, NOW

>> No.40613859

>>40608307
I used to love China with all my heart. Their food, their martial arts, as a child I even practiced karate and watched old chinese movies translated in spanish.
The whole Coco fiasco made my love for China waver, and the more I dug into what the fuck was going on, the more my distate grew for the country, and then Covid came and that was the last nail in the coffin.

I wish the China that my younger self used to adore existed, I wonder if Taiwan is the answer?

>> No.40613894

>>40612576
>>40613283
Yeah, I have heard that due to the way internet censorship works over there, once some nationalist bullshit starts going everyone is kinda forced to go along with it, even the platforms. The bugmen can do no wrong as long as they have a pro-chink message and anyone who is sane gets shut down. It's nuts.

>> No.40613901

Yogiri is a top tier design and it’s tragic that she ceased to exist.

>> No.40613920

>>40613859
>I wonder if Taiwan is the answer?
it wont be for long

>> No.40613948

Every time one of these threads comes up I look in it and there's the same ESL spouting off the same shit he says every single time. It's really bizarre.

>> No.40613950

>>40613859
>Karate
But isn't that Japanese and kung fu is chinese? I can hardly tell these squinty eyed cultures apart anymore

>> No.40613971

>>40608241
>you used the wrong BRAND you are canceled!
Wow so china is actually reddit: the country. Makes sense.

>> No.40613989

>>40613514
You are right that is unprofit war for them to participated but they want to help their's oshi and Hololive anyway.

At least, I respect them for this bravery because some Chinese Tatsunoko was attacked in real life and via social credit in mainland. They helped to sabotage Andy group many times in shadow.

They are fucking based in my book

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>>40613859
>I even practiced karate
Kek pablo that's japanese

>> No.40614011

>>40613789
NOW retard, back then they were 90% of the big clips. I doubt there's more than 10 posters in this board that were there pre-gen 4 so the discussion is moot

>> No.40614041

>>40606919
and in the end he gave us homos
what a deal.
i rather he graduated fking Yagoo

>> No.40614117

>>40613920
Makes me wonder if Japan'd help Taiwan considering how any victory from China only threatens the Japanese's way of life even further. Would be based if, in the future, we'd get HoloTW and Yogiri back.

>>40613950
>>40614004
To be honest, I practiced both And dropped them both because I was a lazy pos, it's been years so I apologize.

>> No.40614123

>>40613859
Taiwan is great and so is Hong Kong. But unfortunately only China is China. And until something changes with the government. it's gonna stay this way.

>> No.40614140

>>40613701
Honestly I don't think it was even the harassment or pushback that made Yagoo bail, but the CN staff working with Bilibili to try and take their talents and the assets. That's such a hostile move there was no other option than to completely shut it down since any lingering would just give them more time to make it a reality.

>> No.40614171

>>40604571
4. Spade Echo like Yogiri didn't participate in any of the fuckery.

>> No.40614177

>>40613859
Those chinese movies were probably made in hong kong.
>if taiwan is the answer
I'm guessing the kinds of movies you watched were things like "chinese guy rolls into a dusty one horse town in shaanxi and there's bad guys and he kung fus them to dead".

No, that doesn't exist. Taiwan is an island nation with a maritime culture. It's like trying to apply Italian movies to Spain because both are Latinate nations.

>> No.40614275

>>40605522
How the fuck do you esl's even use this board when your english is this bad. Do you understand even 25% of what is being typed?

>> No.40614349

The weird thing about all this is that it proves that in 200 years the chinks will still be mad about stupid shit, which is a shame.

>>40613054
>femcel
She was a slut. There is no such thing as a femcel because even the LONLIEST woman can just go to a bar and pick up some fat fuck and get some dick. When whores say femcel they mean they've reached a point where chad won't deal with them and betabux also won't deal with them so they're stuck with alcoholic wifebeaters who work as 'hustlers'.

>> No.40614384

>>40614275
it's because if they say that stuff on their site they get harassed

>> No.40614445

Taffy LOVE

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>>40614275
I'm sorry pls torelant with me.

>> No.40614473

>>40612887
I am a white man from the United States, but was honestly somewhat caught off guard by how many posts here seem to shit on Chinese people in general rather than just the specific individuals in involved in the Coco Taiwan drama. Anyways, I don't think I'll get much useful information from this thread and will likely look at more credible sources to learn more about this incident. Plus there's the geopolitical angle to this whole thing, which is a whole nother can of worms to unpack.

>> No.40614478

>>40614117
>HoloTW
No point in upsetting the zhangs. Yogiri should just be added to HoloJP.

>> No.40614485

>>40614275
They're probably using deepl or google translate

>> No.40614515

>>40614349
>Artia was a slut
god I wish, I would've hit that for months

>> No.40614537

>>40614171
But she was a cunt so we hate her all the same.

>> No.40614563

>>40614384
Yes....

>> No.40614573

>>40613789
>when people here discuss how they met hololive no one has ever mentioned a clip from HM.
because most of them are filthy newfags like (you).
what an absolute retard.
holy shit

>> No.40614588

>>40614473
>will likely look at more credible sources to learn more about this incident
The info /here/ is as credible a source as you are gonna get. Where else are you gonna go? Reddit? NGA?

>> No.40614621

>>40614537
She wasn't really, not sure why you're saying that.

>> No.40614649

>>40614473
You’re on 4chan, retard

>> No.40614675

>>40614515
Especially since she was 3/10 and you're probably able to do better than that.

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>>40614473
>I am a white man from the United States

>> No.40614712

>>40614473
>by how many posts here seem to shit on Chinese people in general rather than just the specific individuals in involved in the Coco Taiwan drama.
Because it's easier to hate everyone, although the chinese make it easier since the loud ones are way more insane.

>> No.40614718

The big thing I could give Cover with the CN branch is, they were at least the most varied of the groups we've had in hololive. Each had their own actual niches and did completely different things from each other, which you can't entirely say about any of the other parts of hololive.
>Yogiri: mostly music, and would only play autism games on stream(simulators, rhythm games, minecraft, tetris). Giant minecraft autist who had an entire server where she'd spend an entire day building random shit she'd see in a video online
>Civia: GFE that pretty much exclusively would want to play western games like the Witcher.
>Echo: bully bait master gamer who would do long endurance streams of hard games like IWBTG
>Rosalyn: Plays every card game that has ever existed and ever will exist
>Artia: FPS nerd, smelly twitch femcel neet.
>Doris: the most boring one, literally just GFE and pretty much just did every trend game the JP side would do, and also react streams since China has no laws.

>> No.40614745

>>40614177
Taiwan was created by chinks after they lost the war and USA defeated the Japanese. They have differences but it's not like Spain and Italy.

>> No.40614754

>>40614621
Because she was and you're in denial, like the other 9 million simps on this board who are shocked when the girl they're orbiting online says she's actually seeing someone.

>> No.40614761

>>40614011
>If chink didn't make an EN clipper/translation group (Hololive Moments), there would be less english speaking audience
>n..n..not now but before
so they helped a small audience grow to the incredible number of a small audience+?
rumao

>> No.40614779

>>40613789
Find Andy's Judas on Twitter.
He has all evidences

>> No.40614785

>>40614588
The /jp/ archives, at least he wouldn't be playing a telephone game

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>>40613901
She and Kuzuha from Niji shared the same artist as I recall

>> No.40614850

>>40614745
The linguistic difference between Hoklo and Mandarin is actually greater than that of Spanish and Italian, which means it isn't like spain and italy it's like romania and spain.
>no wtf you can only have linguistic and cultural nationalism in europe
Shut up, citizen of Rome.

>> No.40614868

>>40614718
Nice skills, too bad they’re all traitors.
I didn’t believe the rrats about Artia either, but she continue talking shit in her reincarnation.

>> No.40614927

>>40613920
There is currently 0 chance of China actually being able to do anything about Taiwan because Taiwan is one of the most important places on the planet due to them essentially running all silicone chip production and research

>> No.40614959

>>40614785
What if The /jp/ archives came from someone in this tread?

私は日本人 ダヨー!

>> No.40614971

>>40614785
Might as well learn Chinese and look for NGA archives then

>> No.40614973

>>40614754
If you're talking about the "fucking her manager" thing that wasn't even true, Rosalyn made it up to get at her because Rosalyn herself was milking her paypigs and trying to marry one specifically to get out of China. It was pretty funny.
You also vastly overestimate how much I care about Spade, she was a bit fun but I have no investment.

>> No.40615082

>>40614761
What are you arguing? That even without them holo would have grown the same way? That's hard to know, but as it is they were undeniably a big part of why holo became more popular with EOPs pre-coco, you needed translations

>> No.40615094

>>40614785
This all went down during the vt era though. besides, you think a newfag is gonna trawl through archives he doesn't know exists?

>> No.40615180

>>40614850
Mandarin was imposed by force by the KMT. It's he main language of Taiwan.

The main language of medieval Rome was fucking Greek.

>> No.40615200

>>40615094
>This all went down during the vt era though
Lmao anon

>> No.40615214

itt: zhangs pretending that no westerner knows japanese
there were already niji clip channels that were starting to throw in some holo clips here and there
lets not pretend that zhangs are the only reason holo got big in the west

>> No.40615256

>>40614588
>Where else are you gonna go? Reddit? NGA?
YouTube documentaries are what I have in mind. I think I've already seen thumbnails pop up in my YouTube recommendations.

>> No.40615276

>>40614927
>impose maritime embargo
>Brandon does nothing

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>>40614927
>There is currently 0 chance of China actually being able to do anything about Taiwan
This won't age well, screenshot this

>> No.40615340

>>40615276
China is incapable of projecting enough naval power to achieve that

>> No.40615341

>>40614573
as I said nobody mentions them and if nobody mentions them is that: either they are irrelevant or nobody is that old in this forum so there is no ¨oldfag¨ and the closest to that would be the ones you call newfags.
cope

>> No.40615353

>>40615214
So Nijisanji would have dominated the West if not for the chinks? That would be ironic.

>> No.40615410
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40615410

Ok, give me next question or anything you want to know.

I will try my best to answer it

>> No.40615446

>>40615340
See: Millennium Challenge 2002.

>> No.40615447

>>40615353
im saying that chinks arent nearly as important as they want you to believe
hololive was the winning formula of cute girls doing cute things that appeal to austistic weebs which is why it blew up
it was only a matter of time

but yes, in the early days most translation channels were about niji and not hololive

>> No.40615467

>>40615341
Anon this was back when 100k was a shitton of subscribers

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>>40615410
Give me the orange woman's measurements

>> No.40615591

>>40615256
Oh jesus, at least go to reddit, don't trust anyone calling themselves """"news"""" channels or """""historian""""""

>> No.40615598

>>40614785
I'm not quite autistic enough to go that far. Plus there's probably lots of primary sources outside of 4chan so I'd only get a small piece of puzzle anyway.

>> No.40615604

>>40615200
wait, was this pre /vt/? was it really that long ago?

>> No.40615603

>>40615447
>hololive was the winning formula of cute girls doing cute things that appeal to austistic weebs which is why it blew up
>it was only a matter of time
Time already passed by then anon, nearly 2 years in fact. And don't say vtubers were only starting to get popular in the west, Kizuna and Kaguya were pretty popular internationally by then

>> No.40615699

>>40615276
>>40615334
if they want to do something, they would have to stop being pussies.
and that's a really hard thing for them to do

>> No.40615719

>>40608096
>This was the future you asked for.
Without zhangs? I'm okay with it. I'd chose 5 gens of Holostars EN before any chink gen.

>> No.40615828

>>40614868
When did she talk shit, last time i checked on her Hecatia graduation she said she enjoyed her time in Hololive evern after getting groans from her audience

>> No.40615830

>>40615256
Use this
https://youtu.be/klMKoGJJUeo https://youtu.be/60ptlJDgBm8 https://youtu.be/Vp2WwyK1zsY https://youtu.be/MDtmGw459iI

>> No.40615844

>>40615353
On a geopolitical scale, due to how insular china is, they have very weak soft power as opposed to something like japan. They unironically had greater soft power back during the 70s when kung fu movies were taking off or in the late90s-early00s when wuxia films were all the rave

>> No.40615871

>>40615603
things take time for people to accept them
you zhangs really acting like japanese is some magical sealed off language that only chinks have access to
nigga westerners have been obsessed with jap culture since they discovered it and were sending off literal ships filled with jap swords and other shit to back home
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japonisme

>> No.40615910

>>40615353
>dominated
probably not. vtubers would have mostly been vshojo and much smaller unless some translators suddenly popped up out of nowhere. One of the sparks of the 2020 boom was projekt melody debuting and pissing off all the camwhores becoming news. At the very least vtubers wouldn't have that stupid idol lingo they adopted.

>> No.40615943

>>40614473
it's because the nuance get's lost in the overall story of what happened, like it was NijiCN fucks that started the ball rolling and most CN actually don't give a fuck about Taiwan as long as you don't shove it in their face or gloat about it, and it was actually pretty hard to drum up any hate from the CN side until Bilibili started cancelling Holo events because they had their own plans to steal talents to start their own vtuber agency, which failed spectacularly when Yagoo nuked HoloCN from orbit and Bilibili had to settle for Virtureal

>> No.40615982

>>40615604
/vt/ really hasn't been around that long

>> No.40615989

>>40615699
>if they want to do something,
Anon they already are, if you're not paying attention its fine but they're actively engaging war now on multiple fronts. You think those egg/meat farms burned themselves down? you think those pipelines took themselves down? You think the current politicans who are letting china run wild aren't in their pockets?

>> No.40616100

>>40614473
>caught off guard by how many posts here seem to shit on Chinese people in general rather than just the specific individuals in involved in the Coco Taiwan drama
mate, how the fuck do you think the rest of us felt when suddenly nationalists started calling for Coco's head, leading to the absolution of the CN branch, the constant bot spam on JP talents that did nothing wrong, and the revelation that the CN talents were also hand a hand in this?
you think we were born hating on China? if such rampart xenophobic nationalism can infest in a niche of a niche, where we only want to see cute girls do cute things, how rotten do you think the rest of china is?
>t. an actual chink

>> No.40616139

>>40615699
Taiwan war would mean the end of globalization, or at least a pretty long halt to it. No one in their right mind really wants that, especially if you want affordable GPUs.

>> No.40616169

>>40614973
>milking her paypigs and trying to marry one specifically to get out of China
this was an actual solid plan, too bad it fell through

>> No.40616195

>>40614473
>>40614588
>>40615256
Here’s one of the NGA threads. Contains links to the actual script used to harass talents. Not sure if they still work.
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=23774380&rand=856

>> No.40616208

>>40613859
I mean, China's ancient culture is still great. The real problem is the CCP and their commie drones spreading evilness over the world

>> No.40616237

>>40615341
except their clips were posted many times here.
it's just that those who got into holo from HM were'nt /here/
what a moron

>> No.40616253

>>40615844
Genshin, Tencent and Nijisanji are new forms of soft power.

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>>40615830
Holy shit, It fucking real

>> No.40616277

>>40615467
so don't claim that it was because of their crappy clips that holo became popular, when there were already other translation groups and they were just another one of them.
also their translations were crap because they translated from JP>CN>EN.

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>>40615982
Ahhh I got my timelines mixed up. It was Coco's graduation that was during vt. My bad.

>> No.40616360

>>40616195
It's not work anymore because subscrib mode and anti-spam system in Kson and Hololive channels

They used CV-6

>> No.40616446

>>40614473
You do realize that rampant nationalism is actually a legitimate aspect of Chinese communism, right?

>> No.40616447

>>40616253
Yeah but not the same level that their film industry had. Which is a shame because most wuxia films tend to be kino, if they just focused on exporting that kind of stuff instead of this NK chest beating playbook shit, they could easily become Gen zs/gen alphas "japan", in the same way millenials and gen x became weebs

>> No.40616493

>>40615871
The only "western" (actually SEA) translator was lyger, the only other big translator was Sushi and english was definitely not his first language, and they had a monopoly on clip viewers for years along with h moments. So no, westerners wouldn't have done shit, they only clipped nigga and Miko was still middle tier within hololive after that got clipped so don't even think that it helped that much back then

>> No.40616536

>>40616446
nta but none of that shit matters, CN is going to suffer an economic collapse followed by population collapse in the next 8~10 years and having Taiwan isn't going to save them.

>> No.40616539

>>40616493
actual idiot zhang misinformation spreader

>> No.40616607

>>40616447
It wasn't their film industry tho. I think it will as mostly Hong Kong which was still a British colony at the time.

I have seen some Chinese blockbusters and they are on par with US patriotic films in terms of jingoism.

>> No.40616611

>>40616208
china hates their ancient culture though. They threw a shitfit when nene first debuted with a chinese outfit that wasn't CCP prescribed.

>> No.40616627

>>40616536
It matters when you have idiots like the guy I replied to assuming that the Chinese interact with him the same way he interacts with them.
Literally the entire cornerstone of the CCP is chinese nationalism.

>> No.40616649

>>40616277
>also their translations were crap because they translated from JP>CN>EN
Irrelevant, only lyger was decent and he was mostly a matsuri clipper. Sushi was straight up a machine translator, there was no competition

>> No.40616695

>>40616607
Watch something like "House of flying daggers", great film that i doubt current china could make

>> No.40616744

>anime and manga got huge in the west on their own but vtubers never would without us, the chinese!!!!!!!!!

>> No.40616745

>>40616536
The population collapse is projected towards 2050, and other big countries in Europe and Asia are going in the same direction. The future is in Africa and India.

>> No.40616788

>>40616611
That only reinforces my point anon. As I said, commie CCP drones destroy any culture his hands touch. That's how every chinese city is soulless as fuck nowadays.

>> No.40616792

>>40616539
So what's the truth, Miko and Rushia sure as hell didn't explode after those clips went viral, because it turns out that twitter clips don't equal youtube viewers, while youtube clips does equal more youtube viewers

>> No.40616870

>>40616745
not really a big problem in europe because euro countries have miniscule populations and their economies are not built for mass manufacturing like the chink one
losing a big chunk of population means fuck all for france or germany but it means a ton for china right now

>> No.40616880

>>40616695
They most definitely can. Heck Zhang Yimou is still making films and Shadow fucking slaps.

>> No.40616973

>>40616744
>vtubers
Hololive anon, hololive
And you're taking an hyperbole, they simply helped a ton, hololive was a snowball and the chinese were their biggest audience at some point, this was just facts

>> No.40617044

>>40616880
>Zhang Yimou
Sold, i'll check it out anon

>> No.40617057

>>40616973
are hololive not vtubers?
did cgdct now become popular in the west? did i schizo loop the popularity of stuff like lucky star over here?

you're giving zhangs way WAY more credit than they actually had

>> No.40617120

>>40616870
Yeah that's why Macron was literally fellating immigrant players during the world cup.

>> No.40617131

>>40617057
Yes, Chink stole SEAnigger credit

>> No.40617139

>>40616745
Europe are preparing themselves for the impact unlike China though.

t.Not sleeping at all Euro

>> No.40617157

>>40617057
They kept early Hololive afloat until EN picked them up, don't take that away from them just because they went full sperg

>> No.40617158

>>40617120
there hasnt been a white footbal player in france for 30 years now

>> No.40617193

>>40616870
>not really a big problem in europe because euro countries have miniscule populations
Theyve been replacing you fuckers with arabs and blacks, of course they're not worried

>> No.40617242

>>40616973
YT is blocked in China, and not that many are dedicated enough to bother with a VPN. Most of their CN audience were clipfags or show up for the occasional bilibili stream

>> No.40617250

>>40617131
Unironically this. Newfags are just desperately parroting zhang propaganda.

>> No.40617365

>>40617242
Anon they streamed on bilibili... Aqua and Fubuki were the most popular vtubers

>> No.40617376

>>40617250
Hell some of the early comments on Sora’s streams are from Indonesians

>> No.40617434

>>40617057
>did cgdct now become popular in the west?
In the West most people like cute girls saying horribly offensive shit.

>> No.40617464

>>40617242
>>40617250
Newfags calling others newfags. Nta, but the chinks were undeniably second only to the japs as Hololive's core audience. Aqua and Fubuki were most subbed on YT for a hell of a long time thanks mostly to their popularity over at bilibili, that's how much pull the bugs had.

>> No.40617488

>>40606242
sshhh, just play along, OP knows what's he's doing. Redditors just got in, if you want to lessen the shitposting asap, we need to turn these newfags into something else

>> No.40617512

>>40617464
Look at the level of zhang delusion. SEAnigs are the reason holo got any amount of popularity in the west.

>> No.40617537

>>40617250
It's literally history, you know they weren't seen as insane spergs until the shitshow right? You're only talking on hindsight and with a bias, at the time they were the biggest clippers and this isn't up for debate

>> No.40617559

>>40604571
Yogurt was great though

>> No.40617638

>>40617512
>SEAnigs are the reason holo got any amount of popularity in the west.
Lyger made matsuri popular, not hololive. And no one knows what the fuck Sushi was

>> No.40617684

>>40617638
>It doesn't count if they aren't zhangs
The absolute state
Go eat some bat soup

>> No.40617723

>>40610172
Anon is living in an alternate reality where aloe is alive. Any methods to go there?

>> No.40617756

>>40615828
that drawing she did in early hecatia days says otherwise anon
wish i still save all those proofs and screencaps i thought nobody will ever discuss this in goddamn 2023, someone who still have that masterpost link just spoonfeed it to OP already and end this thread

>> No.40617773

>>40617537
This narrative is straight from Hololive Moments lol
>we made Hololive big internationally, you are nothing without us, we own you, now do what we say

>> No.40617817

>>40617684
>It doesn't count if they are zhangs
Pot kettle black blah blah blah
How about we end this, post a bigger channel than hololive moments before gen 4 debuted and I'll concede

>> No.40617913

>>40617817
>>40617773
LMAO HE LITERALLY CALLED IT

>> No.40617956

>>40617512
Coco was the reason hololive became popular in the west. No one cares about seamonkeys.

>> No.40617955

>>40617638
Many Live Translators who do it for free are SEAniggers not Chinks.

Taishi always better than Lyger.

>> No.40617981

>>40617773
Them sperging out at the end doesn't take away from the fact that they did indeed help a lot in growing the western audience, but at that time Coco started rolling the ball more than them

>> No.40618068

>>40617956
>Korone
ftfy

>> No.40618071

>>40617913
You ok anon?

>> No.40618108

>>40618071
动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

>> No.40618149

>>40617956
>Gura
ftfy

>> No.40618192

>>40618068
Well, I would say both of them did.
Korone made us notice and had fun
Coco made us want to stay.

>> No.40618313

>>40618068
>kansai doggo playing obscure jp only nes games is why hololive is popular among EOPs
>>40618149
Already popping off before EN debuted.

>> No.40618324

>>40618192
B-but /r/Hololive… Artia…

>> No.40618349

>>40617817
> Otakamori
> Birdkun
>Fenix

>> No.40618460

>>40618192
>>40618313
You retards forget that an entire western game studios simp for her? Her mario streams, especially the english ones put hololive on the map with eops, followed by Fubuki.

>> No.40618589
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40618589

>>40618324
T-chan just sent DM to Artia and she accepted it. Artia never contribute anything in Reddit never once.

Unlike Orange Reddit Dragon who have fun with them for fucking 2 years. Do not dare to stole Coco 2 years hard work to betralyal ice gramlin.

>> No.40618643

>>40618460
Sorry, I forget Fubuki Scatman

>> No.40618645

>>40618589
>Coco 2 years hard work
>Stealing Pewdiepies entire shtick was hardwork
kek

>> No.40618677

>>40618349
> Otakamori
Didn't even fucking exist
> Birdkun
If you mean in /jp/ sure
>Fenix
Who?

>> No.40618883

>>40618645
When Pewdiepies begin used Meme review shtick?

>> No.40618972

>>40618883
Gonna need a enigma machine to decipher this one chief

>> No.40619107

>>40618645
>>40618589
>re...reddit
this yellow, besides being a newfag, is a one-trick dog.

>> No.40619199

FBK scatman had a bigger reach than any single zhang TL clip

>> No.40619328

>>40619199
This

>> No.40619596

>>40618645
Can Pewdiepies make r/Hololive hype train show in first page many times like Coco do?

Coco's strongest power never about creative in the first place. That is /vt/ misunderstanding.

The strongest power of Dragon always is " Promothing". She can make hype to many things even Reddit

>> No.40619935

>>40619596
Come on now, it’s Reddit. At that time Hololive was already big enough that any of the talents could hit frontpage easily.
The main reason they didn’t utilize it more was the added toil of moderation. Even Coco got increasingly disillusioned with the place towards the end (when her meme review was criticized)

>> No.40619955

Hololive's popularity among the english speaking community started with 2 things: Clips (mostly FBK, Miko, Matsuri, and Korone), and Haato coming out as an ESL (Holo still had many collab streams with males at this time).
Then 3rd gen happened, and holo became a place for niji's unicornfag refugees after a certain incident (let's say the males and females played together irl and they're very upset).
Then gen 4 happened, Coco garnered a lot more of english audiences, which leads to Holo EN.

>> No.40620047
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40620047

The biggest mistake in /vt/

Kiryu Coco's strongest power never be " La creativity" in the first place.

Her's strongest ability always are " promoting", "advertising" and " make people hyping something"

She uses her's creativity for create hype. Not otherwise

She isn't innovator.
She always is drug dealer

>> No.40620246

>>40619955
>certain incident (let's say the males and females played together irl and they're very upset).
tell me more

>> No.40620455

>unironically posting in ESL speak and expecting people to take you seriously
Go back to school.

>> No.40620497

>>40620455
>complaining about ESL during SEA hours

>> No.40620548

>>40620497
When is it not SEA hours here?

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