Why is Yagoo so OBSESSED with trying to make Holostars successful? It's been literal years and they're still absolute shitters, but he continues to invest resources into them at every given opportunity anyway. Why?

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Anonymous Mon Jan 9 01:46:13 2023 No.40603991 [Reply] [Original]

Why is Yagoo so OBSESSED with trying to make Holostars successful?
It's been literal years and they're still absolute shitters, but he continues to invest resources into them at every given opportunity anyway.
Why?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 01:46:47 2023 No.40604019 >>40603991 He has gay sex with all of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 01:48:01 2023 No.40604080 >>40603991 Trying to live his broken dreams through them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 01:49:08 2023 No.40604136 >>40603991 He regrets the EN branch and wants to dispose of it while making it look natural to outside investors.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 01:49:34 2023 No.40604161 >>40603991 he wants to do the impossible by making an audience of majority male otaku watch and love anime twink vtubers

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 01:51:25 2023 No.40604265

His marketing strategy is shit. The west doesn't have gentlemen's club where lonely women talk to professionally dressed men.
This strategy isn't going to work for Niji or Cover. Ever.
Be normal for once in your life. Look at the anime westerners like. Focus you god damn geeky old bastard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 01:51:47 2023 No.40604278 >>40603991 Read his name backwards.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 01:53:03 2023 No.40604348 >>40603991 He's trying to recreate and relive the moments when Hololive became huge. It's a bad gamble but he has the time and the money so if he can crack the code to male vbtubers that isn't just fujo baiting then it'll pay off big.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 01:54:10 2023 No.40604411 corporate retardation regarding potential growth he'll probably be shilling homostars NFTs soon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 01:55:30 2023 No.40604473 >>40604265 good thing a lot of the western male vtuber fans are literally women from Asia like China and Indonesia so it doesn't matter if western women don't pick up the slack to support the EN male vtubers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 01:58:44 2023 No.40604654 >>40604265 >>40604473 Holostars is more successful in the west than it is in Japan so this rhetoric doesn't really work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 01:59:17 2023 No.40604684 >>40604473 chinese wont watch hololive, indonesians dont like men

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:00:40 2023 No.40604756 >>40603991 If you don't know by now, he's a huge saviorfag irl. Hololive has already proven to be successful so he's out to save stars

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:02:06 2023 No.40604821 >>40603991 The company will be a failure until he hires A EUROPEAN LOLI

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:04:47 2023 No.40604957 It came to him in a dream. >YAGOO, diversify! >hedge with holostars And the rest is history.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:05:32 2023 No.40605003 >>40603991 He just wants a hobby project. That's why when you send a supa to a holo, he takes a huge cut and it goes towards homos.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:06:30 2023 No.40605053 >>40603991 YAGOO wants the boys dreams to come true too. He wants them to be as popular as the girls. YAGOO is a saviorfag, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:06:35 2023 No.40605063 File: 354 KB, 487x664, PANKO.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>40604821 Just watch Panko, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:06:47 2023 No.40605071 >>40603991 He's gay

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:07:07 2023 No.40605093 >>40604411 >potential growth Alright, why didn't Cover shill EN when they were popular?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:09:05 2023 No.40605178 >>40603991 He just wants early retirement, but the corpo forced him to stay, so he tried some major fuck up. See how tired and bored he is?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:13:07 2023 No.40605385 >>40603991 I don't care about him wanting a successful male division. I do care that its at the expense of the girls. Making the JP girls stop streaming because EN holostars are debuting is a totally dumb policy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:14:42 2023 No.40605475 >>40605385 >males taking shit away from w*men >somehow not based

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:15:48 2023 No.40605547 >>40604265 >This strategy isn't going to work for Niji or Cover. Ever. Seems to be working for Nijifags. Wish I could say the same for ShartsEN.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:17:48 2023 No.40605667 >>40603991 Now that I think about it, aint stars is like wnba to hololive nba.. Man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:19:05 2023 No.40605752 >>40605385 >Making the JP girls stop streaming proof next thread?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:21:01 2023 No.40605874 File: 228 KB, 669x885, Screenshot_3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Okay, say what you want but Magni is funny as hell. I prefer Niji's male members, but I gotta give it to Magni he is really creative.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:24:56 2023 No.40606113 >>40603991 Hololive's success was too easy Yagoo, like a real man, wants a challenge

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:25:21 2023 No.40606139 >>40605752 Subaru complained about not being able to do her usual RPG stream. https://twitter.com/oozorasubaru/status/1611926209247735808

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:26:30 2023 No.40606216

>>40603991
Regrets. He has gone on record to say he regrets he kept males and females separate, I assume this means he wanted to copy niji 100% of the way but it didn't turn out that way. So I'm pulling this narrative out of my ass, but I'm assuming he gives EN management permission to allow or even encourage mixed gender interactions within EN since ID has already been like that and a small portion of JP. So he's pushing the JP boys for their solo stuff but definitely wants the EN guys to rely more on the girls to give them a push (which is pathetic as fuck, honestly). I'm just guessing this shit all comes from his regrets and he's trying to make his vision a reality at least with the EN guys. He's not gonna get very far with JP, especially not with his new retarded rule that no one can overlap holostar debuts or 3D debuts. He's gonna piss off a lot of people if he keepts that shit up. Holostars already had a dedicated small fanbase, forcing them onto people will just make people not watch them and just hate them more. He's a fag for being the way he is. It wouldn't surprise me if Shinove left because he couldn't get through yagoo's thick fucking skull and yagoo insisted on shitting all over the hard work he put in beforehand with the stars.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:26:37 2023 No.40606223 >>40605752 https://youtu.be/CQRsfjHB-BA also pekora mentioned it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:27:21 2023 No.40606261 >>40605093 They were already popular and didn't need any shilling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:28:36 2023 No.40606333 >>40606261 >didn't need any shilling Anon... The branch is literally dying from combined inactivity of the talents + managers...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:30:21 2023 No.40606430 >>40606139 >>40606223 damn really? maybe hololive do need some Talent Freedom after all...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:37:56 2023 No.40606927 >>40606333 And that has nothing to do with shilling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:47:47 2023 No.40607552 File: 2 KB, 125x125, 1612059778370s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>40603991 Stars is obviously his passion project tard. Why would he launch a 3 view indie corpo level branch when Hololive probably worths a billion dollar.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 02:59:38 2023 No.40608303 >>40603991 Is Yagoo, gay...?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 03:03:34 2023 No.40608569 >>40603991 To relive his broken dream of becoming a male idol. Hololive is just a stepping stone in his plan. His final plan is to debut as a Holostar when they become successful and coast on the brand popularity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 03:11:01 2023 No.40609039 >>40603991 Men >>>>> women Men are simply better entertainers

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 03:11:13 2023 No.40609048 >>40603991 Gay pervert

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 03:13:01 2023 No.40609143 >>40604265 Anon we talked about this, you need to stop making up dumb shit about a group of people you don't even know and telling people as if it's the truth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 03:35:50 2023 No.40610413 >>40609039 Men are better entertainers, yes, but this industry does not attract actual good entertainers. It was never meant for male entertainers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 03:39:31 2023 No.40610632 >>40603991 Yagoo: https://youtu.be/TVcLIfSC4OE?t=16

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 03:43:29 2023 No.40610833

>>40606216
>He has gone on record to say he regrets he kept males and females separate
He should be. That's literally the only reason Holostars didn't take off. Mito and Himawari used to be top #1 and #2 in Niji when the Nijimales were irrelevant, Mito boosted Kenmochi by interacting with him while Himawari boosted Kuzuha, and look at where those guys are now. The guys need to be cool to appeal to female viewers, and interacting with bigger female talents makes them cool.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 03:56:40 2023 No.40611599 >>40604473 chinks don't like cover why would indonesians watch a male when kaela is a bigger gamer than anyone outside of jp and most of jp anyways

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 04:02:59 2023 No.40612018 >>40606139 >complained fucking EOPs putting words on the talent's mouth just to peddle rrats

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 04:13:40 2023 No.40612763 >>40609039 Then why are male vtubers so garbage and are unable to match the numbers girls can? Why do homobeggars have to infest every girls' chat and beg for collabs?

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 04:28:36 2023 No.40613723

>>40603991
He really loves holostars and wants them to succeed. They have a stigma on their name though and they fucked up twice in their history. First with the male/female seperation that was forced on their debut, then second being pussy and only debuting EN girls and waiting years to debut Males expecting the western audience to be more accepting, not knowing they created western unicorns by debuting girls only then keeping them isolationist for years.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 04:35:20 2023 No.40614153

>>40613723
Nobody wants to watch males in any capacity you fujoshi cunt. Bishounens disgust us, it's just faggot shit. The ONLY reason vtubing is successful at all is because of cute girls as a natural extension of anime waifus. That's it. That IS vtubing itself.

If there were maletuber turds in this at all nobody would even start watching vtubers. Which brings me to the obvious - Yagoo and Cover betrayed us, their real audience, to cater to your degenerate sterile fujo cunt. The whole company MUST be destroyed at any and all costs, so that they pay for their betrayal. They NEED to go bankrupt.

Fuck Hololive, fuck Cover, and fuck Japan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 04:36:39 2023 No.40614250 yagoo is a saviorfag and while it's easy for a girl to make it in hololive, the same cannot be said for a dude.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 04:37:24 2023 No.40614295

>>40613723
>then second being pussy and only debuting EN girls and waiting years to debut Males expecting the western audience to be more accepting, not knowing they created western unicorns by debuting girls only then keeping them isolationist for years.
Hololive was built opon cute girls doing cute things.
Leeching from the girls doesn't work as has been proven time and time again
No mixed gender collabs have ever helped male vtubers, especially within hololive.

You want male vtubers to get viewers? Get more women into the hobby and they will have viewers.
You've been trying for years to prove that men want to watch male vtubers and you've been proved wrong every single time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 04:38:27 2023 No.40614367 >>40612763 Take your meds pajeet, you’ll never get laid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 04:39:36 2023 No.40614435 >>40614367 >No argument I accept your surrender.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 04:39:56 2023 No.40614453 >>40603991 He's a fag lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 04:44:54 2023 No.40614792 >>40603991 He's kinda lonely and just wants bros. If the boys become popular in their own right that's just a bonus

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 04:46:03 2023 No.40614879 >>40603991 if you're looking for a serious answer, it's because Nijisanji has proven that there's money to be made in male vtubers. Holostars JP had a BRUTAL launch and he's trying again with EN but really trying to make sure it doesn't go tits up

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 05:03:21 2023 No.40616121

>>40614295
>Leeching from the girls doesn't work as has been proven time and time again
Hell no. It's working for Nijisanji and it's been proven that female viewers are huge spenders. If YAGOO stop pussying out and let all the boys and girls collab like in Niji then both StarsJP and Tempus will become huge in no time. He would've done it a long time ago if he's not scared that incels would Kyoani'd the Holo headquarter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 05:04:18 2023 No.40616189 >>40616121 >It's working for Nijisanji This isn't nijisanji Hololive exists only because it isn't nijisanji

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 05:05:21 2023 No.40616251 >>40616121 Also your huge niji spenders are chinese women Chinks hate cover You are literally cheering for the death of hololive and unless you are some niji tribalnigger, you have no excuse to do so

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 05:17:04 2023 No.40617047 >>40616121 Females need hide behind a pretty anime girl avatar because the reality of women is revolting. Male chuubas are just normal people so it doesn't make any sense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 05:25:27 2023 No.40617499 >>40603991 He's jealous of Manjisanji's success.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 05:33:32 2023 No.40618054 >>40606216 Shinove was fired, because his plan to keep the males separate wasn't working. So, Shinove is going to make his own indie all male branch instead now.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 05:39:46 2023 No.40618431

>>40616121
Shut the fuck up you vile fujoshi. The only reason Luxiem and Nijisanji are successful is because they're tapping into the Chinese market. Of course, you yourself are probably a Zhangina because your kind is drawn to failed males. Hololive has no access to the Chinese market because of Coco, and what they're trying to do is enter the Chinese market through the backdoor. Yagoo sold us to China, but we won't allow it.

Fuck Xi, and fuck you.

>>40616189
>Hololive exists only because it isn't nijisanji
Also this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 05:43:52 2023 No.40618653 File: 7 KB, 250x238, 1413150928248.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] There's just one flesh streamer I occasionally watch but if he somehow showed up one day as a Vtuber I think I would stop watching

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 05:47:12 2023 No.40618864

>>40614153
>If there were maletuber turds in this at all nobody would even start watching vtubers. Which brings me to the obvious - Yagoo and Cover betrayed us, their real audience, to cater to your degenerate sterile fujo cunt. The whole company MUST be destroyed at any and all costs, so that they pay for their betrayal. They NEED to go bankrupt.
Based. So glad I found indies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 05:50:37 2023 No.40619067 >>40603991 Hololive wasn't Yagoo's idea so he doesn't really understand why it succeeded. He's a game dev and he's burning millions on Holoearth, do you think he personally oversees what the streaming division does?

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 05:53:23 2023 No.40619212

>>40603991
It's the corporate way (especially in Japan)
You can never cut losses and admit that a project was a failure. You have to pretend like everything you ever touched was a success. Pour resources into it until you reach some sort of metric you can claim as a victory.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 05:55:45 2023 No.40619336

>>40614435
>Literal 4 year old reply

Oh you want me to reply to your turd sandwich?
Your whores are lazy, the Covid buff is over, the coomers have moved back to Twitch.
Yagoo sees your shit branch as a failed meme with lazy employees.

He’s supporting the boys to get some of the fujo/yume pie and ID as that’s a bigger market.
I hope you spergs go back to your pedo anime once Gura gets married.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 06:06:36 2023 No.40619960

>>40619336
Oh nyo, nonny is angy! What a fussy baby!

There is no market for shit males in the West. Cover cannot enter China, and only failed Asiatic females are into maletubers. The market Yagoo wants does not exist in a fundamental, physical sense. There are literally no people who'd watch maletubers in the West, and that's a cultural thing. We find bishounens gross, because there's nothing as pathetic as an effeminate man. It is a literal abomination and that's all they'll ever be. And when you make them into anime bishounens it just becomes more offputting. No self-respecting female is into kawaii uguu men. Being attracted to cuteness is a masculine trait, which is why fujoshi are de facto mentally ill.

Here's another fact for you - degenerate females are also into K-pop. So Yagoo and Cover, in their utter brilliance, are competing with K-pop, Nijisanji (chuubas and maletubers), big indies and small corpos, and anime. And before they were the prestige CGDCT company. Now they're a nothing, competing in multiple fields where they are either outclassed (indies/small corpos are already better), are untouchable (anime), have experience and are leaders in low effort vtubing (Niji), or are (somewhat) real people like K-pop plastics. Cover went from being the biggest player in the sphere they created and left it to do nothing but destroy its legacy. That is stupidity.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 06:09:20 2023 No.40620125

Hololive then:
>braindead miko ark meme song
>cute yuri flirting
>no name nicodouga rejects
Holoproduction now:
>attractive youths flirting
>how dare you have expectations, touch grass, unicorn incel
>largest vtuber corporation too big to fail
Feels like I got kicked out of my own club.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 06:12:40 2023 No.40620330 >>40619960 Vtubing as a whole is so dorky. I'm watching Koyori play Donkey Kong Country and even with the mental excuse of learning Japanese I'm questioning what am I doing with my life.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 06:14:15 2023 No.40620424

>>40603991
If you want a serious answer, that's because Cover isn't going to give up the market that contains around 50% of the human population and let it be completely dominated by its competitor. If they give up on Holostar, Nijimale will hardly have anyone to compete with, and Nijisanji will forever have a bigger scale of potential fans than Hololive.
The hard truth is that talents will be much happier seeing people from the same gender become their fans than fans from the other gender because it means their personality attracted them instead of their Vtuber appearance. Just see how fucking happy a Hololive talent is when they receive a superchat from a female fan. And female fans are relatively more willing to spend money on supporting their oshi. But if you only operate a single-gender agency, you're never going to attract a significant number of female fans.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 06:18:09 2023 No.40620618

>>40620424
>Cover isn't going to give up the market that contains around 50% of the human population
They didn't before. Lots of femoids were fans of Suisei, Rushia, Migo, Ko'one and even the stars. Their current strategy now is shitting all over their previous demographic and watering down the product so it appeals to twitter trannies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 06:20:13 2023 No.40620729 >>40620618 >JP Keep moving those goalposts sperglord

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 06:21:16 2023 No.40620775 >>40603991 Why are you OBSESSED with the homos?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 06:21:55 2023 No.40620802 >>40620729 Still, plenty of western hoes cosplaying as Gura in conventions and simping Roberu. It's the decision to take down gender separation that's baffling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 06:22:25 2023 No.40620831 >>40603991 By sane and without chronic #fag disease, starsEN is successful, if they collab with their JP homos they might get some of that but alas, #fags think that anything under 5kccv & 500k subs is a flop

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 06:23:25 2023 No.40620868 >>40620775 You started the thread lol, but yeah keep throwing your verbal diarrhea at everyone.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 06:42:42 2023 No.40621829

>>40620618
>Lots of femoids were fans of Suisei, Rushia, Migo, Ko'one and even the stars
Yes, it's still possible to attract female fans even if you only have female talents because they are all fantastic entertainers. Still, the number of them will never be as huge as a mix-gender agency like Nijisanji, and most of them won't care to bet an eye on your content if they have the prepossession that this content is for male instead of them, the same as male viewers will hardly be attracted by an all-male agency or group.
The talent with the highest number of female fans in Hololive is undoubtedly Suisei, but you're delusional if you think it will be higher than 20%. While some in NijiJP, like tomoe, can have a 50/50 gender ratio as a female talent.
You may argue that the total number is different, but the thing is, Nijisanji's big events have already proven that they have a large number of total fans that are willing to check their content, which is largely due to the fact that they hold fans from both gender.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:00:00 2023 No.40622851 >>40603991 He did this way too late. Fujochinks are already taken by vox from NiGiZhangYi

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:00:58 2023 No.40622892 >>40603991 Why do you care?

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:01:57 2023 No.40622952

>>40621829
Yeah I still dont understand about Niji is this, when their talents have some big events, regardless of their usual CCV, its certain that they will have high CCV. Is it because Niji fans have this solidarity they will watch any big events from any talents even though theu arent their regular watcher? If anyone can give me a logical answer I will believe that

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:12:52 2023 No.40623600 >>40609039 All those better entertainers are already real face streamers or just voice streamers. Male vtubers are literally bottom of the barrell.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:23:22 2023 No.40624123 >>40619067 Oh shit, now that you mentioned Holoearth, it all comes together now. Holostars/Tempus are for Holoearth, Genshin has about half male and female characters, if YAGOO wants to make the game as big as Genshin then he NEEDS Holostars

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:25:17 2023 No.40624228

>>40622952
An answer without any tribalfaggotry is that Nijisanji is too big for anyone to care about more than a handful of talents, and the variety of content also makes most Niji talents only appeal to a certain niche instead of every fan in the company.
People mainly watching Chaika or Rikiichi will have almost zero overlaps with people mainly watching Lauren or Petit, as these talents hardly ever interact with each other and do different kinds of content. But their fans are still Nijifan in general and will come together whenever a big event happens in which the talents they mainly watch or know participate in it. And even if Chaika starts his stream after the event, people who don't watch him will still hardly go out of their way to check his stream. That's why you hardly see any viewer funnel to others when any talent ends their stream.
In contrast, Almost every Hololive talent provides similar content, and the company promotes a close relationship among talents, which makes most Holofans tend to watch whoever is streaming when they have time. The only difference is different individuals has different priority when choosing which talent's stream to watch. And this is also the reason why stars can't get viewed despite having the Holo brand, because that's the kind of content the majority of Hololive fandom hated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:26:53 2023 No.40624312 >they're still absolute shitters they are getting better and now outperform several hologirls when it come to superchats. their concert had a full room audience (mostly girls, btw).

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:31:57 2023 No.40624567

>>40621829
>You may argue that the total number is different, but the thing is, Nijisanji's big events have already proven that they have a large number of total fans that are willing to check their content, which is largely due to the fact that they hold fans from both gender
You're saying this while their recent tournament got absolutely mogged by Holokart?

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:33:07 2023 No.40624618

>>40622952
The non-biased answer is that the whole point of Nijisanji is to find one or two chuubas that appeal to the niche you're looking for and the rest just "exist".
So you settle in the vtuber in niji that holds the niche that you're interested in and always watch him or her. The vtuber niche that you picked is rarely, if ever, held by another niji vtuber or shared between them. When his or her stream ends, that's it for your night, a niji fan will rarely visit another vtuber's streams.
When events happen, and all the vtubers come together, all the fans stay to watch their niche perform in the event.
Once their niche has finished their segment, they stay anyway because the event is on-going and they want to support the event that their oshi took part in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:35:05 2023 No.40624697 >>40624567 >Majhong final: 122K >Holokart: 112K >Nijikart 190K btw

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:37:01 2023 No.40624781 >>40603991 Because girls spend a shitload of money on boyband merch?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:39:54 2023 No.40624926 File: 349 KB, 1829x2048, FjQlcmKUcAI04bc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>40624781 This is the answer, but it doesn't fit the "everyone wants to fuck my oshi" narrative.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:41:13 2023 No.40624983 >>40620424 Back to the farms nonna! >>40620775 They're killing vtubing and they need to be destroyed along with their enablers and the company that shat them on us.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:46:21 2023 No.40625221 >>40604278 the fuck is an oginat, anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:48:07 2023 No.40625301 >>40606927 On the contrary Id argue that more numbers from shilling during its prime would have given them more time to die out from stupid mistakes like penis lives

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:52:09 2023 No.40625483

It's not a bad idea to try and diversify your revenue sources. What I have issue with is that the strategy for promoting the male talents, with things like the overlap ban, the whole 'holoproductions' push, etc. seems to be to try and get as much of the current hololive audience (mostly male) to watch the guys as possible, which seems contradictory with the idea of finding a new audience.

Niji (jp) offers the 'wide variety of streaming personalities' that appeals to a more normie mixed audience while holo found success with the 'idol + streamer' combo, where the female version exploded and the male version floundered. The thing is that while there can be a lot of gender overlap with regular streamer personalities there is almost none for idol stuff, I don't think there are that many people who want to become gachis or make their oshis both men and women at the same time. If Yagoo wanted equal attention on both his boys and girls he probably shouldn't have gone the idol route in the first place, but then we don't know if holo would have ever gotten popular at all.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 07:58:42 2023 No.40625803

>>40625483
further more doing this in a branch like EN which was still adjusting to the "Idol" thing in which it was more alienated from culture wise than the other branches yet still not well spoken or normie enough to do something like niji was a terrible idea in the first place, the branch didnt have a "brand" it aligned with yet and then they push males and collabs in a corp based on idol culture during a stablizing phase, was a rancid fucking idea.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 08:00:59 2023 No.40625905 File: 88 KB, 432x539, ADB6ED99-D7A2-4208-8289-0F4BBCE1BDDC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>40603991 He’s actually an oji-san SMAPfag

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 08:16:13 2023 No.40626432 >>40618431 You do know that the only reason Hololive didn't die at the start was because they pandered and we're propped up to chinks right? They were extremely lucky YouTube's algorithm helped blow them up in the west.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 09:44:24 2023 No.40629085 >>40626432 nigger, the chink market was not even a fraction of the JP market. They didn't even want to support HoloCN. Hololive would have done much better without the chinks stealing, sabotaging and copyright-striking other subs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 10:04:11 2023 No.40629694 >>40603991 he thinks it will work

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 11:02:59 2023 No.40631435 >>40629694 I honestly don't get it. All I see on the official subreddit now (which is usually a hugbox) is endless resentment. r/holostars exists but r/hololive also has holostars content now and there's no way to filter it? Make it make sense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 11:12:08 2023 No.40631713 >>40603991 you don't understand anon we should debut tempus till we get our own vox!!!

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 11:21:01 2023 No.40631973

>>40603991
Because it's worth trying. Giving up early is what Niji does. When Niji half-assed the EN branch and failed ID branch, Hololive still went after those markets and succeeded. They should also go for KR which Niji gave up on too...coming soon. Yagoo truly believes it will succeed, sacrificing some HoloEN is worth doing so.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 11:21:49 2023 No.40631994

>>40629085
>the chink market was not even a fraction of the JP market
you are thinking of the JP market as it is TODAY, which is way bigger than it was pre-2020
the biggest clippers were chinks
the biggest fangroups were chinks
a chink gacha collab was one of the biggest gateways for EOPs and zhangs into hololive

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 12:18:29 2023 No.40634233 >>40603991 Too much middle management

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 12:44:36 2023 No.40635631 >>40624228 >>40624618 Naruhodo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 13:42:13 2023 No.40638686 Ok but for real I was expecting at least 100k for EN stars just like first batch of Tempus but 60k across the board? Bruh...

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 13:53:40 2023 No.40639254

>>40638686
They'd probably reach 100k by the end of the month realistically. And even then, maybe 1 or 2 of them will since their growth right now are still increments. You can't even notice susan's culling because it's that minuscule. however, they might get a boost with collabs from the hologirls, but we all know what will happen at that point. kobo and ollie from id tho would probably be ready to collab with the new homos. put ID and starsen together and you have Niji-lite.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 13:55:46 2023 No.40639359 >>40603991 he believes in them

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 14:22:14 2023 No.40640644

>>40631973
>sacrificing some HoloEN is worth doing so
It's absolutely fucking not you retarded mouth breather. There was never a need to sacrifice HoloEN and they 100% could've debut a new gen last year. Instead they go full ACCELERATE with StarsEN while HoloLIVE EN3 will only debut at the earliest 19 months after Council, possibly even latter. Christ, you Coverdrones are fucking insane.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 14:24:12 2023 No.40640741 >>40631973 >They should also go for KR kek Isegye absolutely dominates that market. HoloKR would get mogged harder than stars

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 14:25:38 2023 No.40640816 >>40631973 >They should also go for KR too late

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 14:44:55 2023 No.40641664

>>40603991
I think it's to make the company look more diversified/have a higher market cap potential for the IPO.

>but it's been years and still no IPO
Yeah. Because he's trying to get the valuation up still. Also, investors who aren't vtuber experts in the slightest would just assume bigger audience demographics = more success in the long run regardless of the fact this plan has struggled in practice for like 3 years now.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 14:48:42 2023 No.40641825

>>40641664
They could've diversify it and not throw HoloEN into the trash at the same time, you know? There was nothing impeding them from just debuting 5 new girls last year for the branch, unless you truly believe they had to focus all their attention on Tempus for whatever reason. The issue here for the majority of people is not "Tempus exist", even if some schizos will say that, but how they're pretty much ignoring what was always their bread and butter to bet on something that will never be as big, even if were more successful than their previous attempt with the JP branch.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:15:14 2023 No.40643012

>>40641825
>The issue here for the majority of people is not "Tempus exist", even if some schizos will say that, but how they're pretty much ignoring what was always their bread and butter to bet on something that will never be as big, even if were more successful than their previous attempt with the JP branch.
this

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:18:48 2023 No.40643169

>>40641825
Yeah I don't disagree with any of that, in fact it looks more like circumstantial evidence to us that Tempus IS in fact getting in the way of more girls for the branch which is very much not what we were led to expect. Worse yet they get introduced and then freely flung over the girls' streams to shill them endlessly.

JP seems both able to get dudes in independent of girls and also doesn't flaunt them around. You can say "well look at the results, tempus guys get way higher CCVs than most JP stars" ... sure, but the apparent neglect and lack of efforts to motivate the girls (rather they appear heavily demotivated and demoralized by perms being horrible and their ideas constantly shot down) has to me unarguably eaten some portion of the growth they could have had. In other words if the dudes did not exist and every effort was made to give the girls every single thing they want, advertise them like crazy, make them really excited and hyped to be Holo girls etc they'd probably be both streaming and performing better today, maybe better-enough to outdo Tempus' existence/income. It certainly looks like that for JP where it's just kept growing and growing and tons of girls get like 20-30k CCVs for random non-special solo streams which is a complete pipe dream for ENs outside Gura (and even Gura doesn't usually get that anymore outside karaokes).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:20:07 2023 No.40643225 >>40603991 Let him cook

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:29:55 2023 No.40643681

>>40643169
I really do feel that if EN management actually did their job and incentivized the girls to stream, organize events and projects with even an ounce of competence instead of cancelling at even the tiniest snag or simply for no fucking reason, and actually do their goddamn job grabbing permissions, then the holoEN girls would have been pulling numbers equal to JP right now. Hell, if Gura actually gave a shit and her managers actually supported her then she would have been head-to-head with Pekora and Miko skyrocketing numbers on mere game streams.

But no, they would rather push and shill their faggot sausage fiesta instead. Two straight fucking gens.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:32:51 2023 No.40643805 >>40643681 This is the shit that makes most people who are mad, mad. EN was a golden ticket and management used it as toilet paper continuously.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:37:42 2023 No.40644025

>>40643681
>>40643805
management are making their own money, they dont care if they destroy the chuubas to do it.
See they could get a 10k sponsorship deal for Gura from a big company, but they'll pass it over and cut a deal with crunchyroll where Gura gets 1k but the manager also gets 1k off the record
Cover are retarded and never look into this kind of stuff

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:41:06 2023 No.40644194

>>40643169
>>40643681
Yeap. Remember when everyone in /jp/ and then early /vt/ kept saying shit like Japanese vtubing was over, reached it's ceiling and EN was the future? I wonder were all those faggots are right now. For every complaint fans and the members had about JP's management it seems like ever since late 2020/early 2021 Cover put them into shape and now a bunch of exciting stuff is happening for the branch every month, and even StarsJP is having a similar treatment when they're infinitely less popular. And HoloEN, which was one of the most important decisions Cover ever had since they started their vtuber business, is now being treated worse than fucking ID, with the only exciting thing happening exclusively for them in the coming months being the remaining new outfits for Council, and unless IRyS is included in this there are only 2 left. After that we have HoloExpo/Fes, which affects all the branches and HoloEN will only have a small part there, and then pretty much nothing unless they announce something in March. No big event like the Pokémon/MK tournaments, the JP arc is pretty much over outside of the remaining members in Japan collabing with their senpai, no live 3Ds since the next few birthdays before HoloFes are Rrat, IRyS and Kronii and none of them had their 3D debuts yet. It's like the branch has no direction to go outside of forced unity and becoming a bargain bin Nijisanji copycat.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:46:38 2023 No.40644416

>>40644194
>It's like the branch has no direction to go outside of forced unity and becoming a bargain bin Nijisanji copycat.
It's hilariously sad considering NijiEN started out as a holo knockoff (they didn't consider hiring males when they started), but flash forward to today and HoloEN has become a NijiEN bootleg instead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:47:53 2023 No.40644477 >>40644416 >HoloEN has become a NijiEN bootleg instead might as well watch JP at this point

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:50:38 2023 No.40644610 >>40644477 that's what anyone with a brain is doing

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:51:46 2023 No.40644669

>>40644416
The funniest part is NijiEN has taken the next innovative step and hired obvious JP women to the EN branch.
Most anons may think "what the fuck is the point?" but think about it.
JP women that understand how vtubing works instead of the western whore grifters that think vtubing is just streaming with an avatar.
Being ESL can always be worked on, and in Kotoka's case, her EN is completely fine.
I can't wait for Yagoo to see this and try and find his own nip women except he'll probably settle for whitewashed nips in burgerland.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:53:09 2023 No.40644733 >>40644669 >I can't wait for Yagoo to see this and try and find his own nip women surely he will not fuck it up r-right?

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:54:14 2023 No.40644784

>>40644733
Just remember that Omega's probably involved in the hiring process.
The hiring process in which Kotoka presumably applied to both Holo and Niji, and Meloco definitely did when you consider RM reps.
And both are now in Niji instead of Holo.
Really makes the brain start thinking about what the fuck Omega did with their applications, if it even looked at them.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:55:50 2023 No.40644867

>>40644669
>I can't wait for Yagoo to see this and try and find his own nip women except he'll probably settle for whitewashed nips in burgerland.
The first non American/Asian-Canadian/Asian-Aussie they hired since Kiara was the spic guy in the new Tempus gen, and I believe the rest of the group are all burgers. Whoever is in charge of hiring new people for HoloEN (which is definitely not Yagoo) just doesn't give a shit if you don't come from these countries, and the spic guy probably lives in America so that's why he was hired in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:55:54 2023 No.40644870 >>40644669 >Hiring two Yugos >Can barely understand wtf they’re saying YWNBJ

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 15:55:56 2023 No.40644871 >>40604265 >Look at the anime westerners like. That would be Shounen

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 16:01:17 2023 No.40645146

>>40612763
Because your dick is biased towards females. No female vtuber is actually entertaining or funny, you watch them because they're pretty or sexy. Also why do you give a fuck about numbers that doesn't mean they're more entertaining. If numbers are an indicator of quality then react content is the best type of thing a vtuber can stream. Also "homobeggars" come from the girls' fanbase. I watch all of Tempus and the ones asking the boys to collab with the females always have profile pics of one of the girls or brings them up unprompted. Just recently someone sent Magni $100 USD to beg for a collab with 2 of the girls and he essentially told them to fuck off. Control your fanbase.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 16:03:22 2023 No.40645248 >>40644669 just hire someone that streams is that a lot to ask

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 16:06:09 2023 No.40645401

>>40644867
i believe there is at least some reasoning to holoEN's hire everyone from one place vs nijiEN's hire everyone from everywhere approach:
>target audience is the english-speaking audience
>most english speakers live in EST/PST hours
>therefore hire streamers that live in these hours
the problem with this approach is that it's basically overlap hell for a like only a handful of hours a day, and the rest is pretty much dead.

nijiEN does a good job of covering as much dead hours as they possibly can; they have streamers for NA, and they have for SEA, AU and even EU. dead hours usually only span like two or three hours, and if it's any longer it's because a good chunk of the livers happened to coincide their weekly breaks. of course it results in the streamers that are in the low-demand timezones to end up as 3views, but they've at least covered an impressive amount of bases

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 16:06:37 2023 No.40645436 >>40645248 They had an applicant for that and Omega probably saw it and went >"2view female? Nope!" >"It's time for another male gen instead" (Kotoka admitted on debut she was a literal 2view with an audience of just 10, and niji picked her up)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 16:07:49 2023 No.40645504 >>40645401 >EU who? nina?

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 16:08:29 2023 No.40645543

>>40645401
Starting to sound like NijiJP where they have so many niche vtubers to choose from that most fans end up choosing just 1 or 2 to follow while the remaining niji's just exist until it's time for major events that have almost the entire niji roster participating in.
It leads to a lot of low numbers, but loyal fanbases that has a lot of bases covered as you pointed out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 16:09:19 2023 No.40645587 >>40645504 nina mostly, some of the NA girls also alternate to EU too like rosemi, enna and pomu

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 16:16:12 2023 No.40645919

>>40645401
>the problem with this approach is that it's basically overlap hell for a like only a handful of hours a day, and the rest is pretty much dead
Pretty much. During Ina's 3-month hiatus Kiara was the only member who streamed around that hour (a little bit earlier for her), otherwise that entire timeslot was dead, dominated by the JPs who like to stream well into the morning like Aki, Flare and Luna, or Kaela who streams whenever she's awake. Anycolor's approach with NijiEN also makes it impossible for a day to go by without a stream from the branch while in the last few months that happened multiple times with HoloEN, but for some reason Cover still thinks the current roster is more than enough.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 16:24:07 2023 No.40646278 >>40609039 a real man doesn't need to hide behind an anime avatar, only faggots thriving in this industry.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 16:29:21 2023 No.40646497

>>40606216
>So he's pushing the JP boys for their solo stuff but definitely wants the EN guys to rely more on the girls to give them a push (which is pathetic as fuck, honestly).
That’s literally like at least 90% of content creators, they collaborate with others to boost their audience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 16:31:29 2023 No.40646592 >>40645543 It also explains how they get big numbers in company event streams, but their typical streams have lower numbers than HoloJP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 16:32:42 2023 No.40646646 >>40645543 i prefer this i watch everyone that's streaming anyway

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 17:42:54 2023 No.40650115 >>40604136 If I was an investor who bought a golden apple orchard I would be worried if the gardeners started replanting it with wild pear trees.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 17:48:48 2023 No.40650415

>>40604654
Basically this.
Tempus have been a profitable success.
Not on the level of hololive sure but simp energy is strong.
There's a reason the porn industry mostly caters to males while the sex toy industry was until recently almost entirely focused on women.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 17:51:11 2023 No.40650560 >>40603991 japanese fujoshit roasties in the management gaslight him

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 17:58:51 2023 No.40650895

>>40650115
That's why I wonder how long this charade will keep going. Yagoo might be the CEO but he's not the one with financial interests, and the people who are investing in Cover will soon start asking why the hell they're not doing anything with the branch that became the biggest thing in vtubing in only a couple of months and was the first actual win the company ever had against it's competitors.

>>40650415
Having them be more successful than StarsJP is good and all but that still doesn't explain why it's taking so fucking long for EN3. As much as people love to say they're not taking the girls' spot during the entirety of 2022 Cover never once reminded people about the HoloEN auditions like they did 3 times with StarsEN. If they were looking for people for both we would see the same level of pushing, but for some reason we aren't, so why's that?

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 17:59:46 2023 No.40650944

>>40650415
Too bad the simp energy for tempus is not as strong as those nijifags, cause it ain't pulling as much attention as you think than the usual die-hard stars fan. Look, I wouldn't mind if starsen exists just to cater to that market, but prioritizing this over their much profitable branch is a questionable move. are they really trying to pump out more guys accelerate style just so they could find their golden goose version of vox. maybe not. but from the looks of it, seems like yagoo is trying to get his share on that market quick and hopefully have one of the guys stick on that level.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 18:01:31 2023 No.40651030 He wants to save men too, not just women, but the world won’t allow him to

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 18:02:42 2023 No.40651082 >>40603991 he believes in (You), anon

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 18:05:03 2023 No.40651176

>>40650895
I can think of a number of reasons.
Main reason not to bother with EN3 is that right now at least they haven't cracked full monetisation for EN.
At least not in their home market (ie: The english speaking one)
So the only way to grow the EN branch revenue is to expand the viewerbase. Which Tempus has done. Even if its cost them some unicorns.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 18:07:33 2023 No.40651280 >>40614153 imagine calling someone sterile with this talk. your dick even works?

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 18:18:18 2023 No.40651769

>>40651176
It's not costing them just some unicorns when there's literally nothing happening with the branch, half of the current roster is unavailable for whatever reason at any given time, the remaining ones don't have the same spark they had more than a year ago and now they pushed another StarsEN faster than they ever did any foreign branch before which is making even the biggest Tempus fans question what the fuck they are doing. They lose absolutely nothing and only gain from debuting 5 new girls, as much as retards love to say "muh cannibalization", and they should've had done that more than a year ago when they were still at the top on the female side. Now even some NijiEN girls can beat HoloEN in terms of viewers, a lot of great picks are going to other agencies because Cover is using their auditions as toilet paper and the guys aren't bringing this huge new audience like you people think they are when they manage lose to low tier HoloJP members streaming during the Japanese morning. Your "the only way to grow the EN branch revenue" is pure, unfiltered bullshit because you're mistaking the branch not having any sort of exciting event happening with them not growing, while JP only grew with Holox and had a bunch of exciting shit happening in 2022 and already in the first week of 2023.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 18:24:35 2023 No.40652047 >>40651769 You seem to be under the mistaken impression that EN can do the same sort of shit JP does. Because shocker: They can't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 18:26:33 2023 No.40652149 >>40652047 That still doesn't excuse the lack of anything happening with the branch. You know what would be exciting? A new gen. They can absolutely do that, so why aren't they doing it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 18:35:43 2023 No.40652566 >>40652149 Limited resources one assumes. They're a side branch so they're not a priority

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 18:41:21 2023 No.40652832

>>40652566
Limited resources that they waste on 2 back to back Stars gens when anyone with half a brain knows they'll always be less popular? Then why even have open auditions if they'll never do anything with it? This shit is more insulting than just taking too long to open limited time auditions, because at least doing that won't look like they're spiting in the face of the girls who are dedicating (read wasting) their time sending auditions in hopes Cover will contact them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 18:47:44 2023 No.40653168 >>40652832 Well is it a waste? If you're not gonna watch one of the existing girls then are you gonna watch a basically identical gen 3?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 18:52:05 2023 No.40653355 >>40605385 You can throw as much money as you like but nothing will incentivize a western woman to do anything.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 18:55:11 2023 No.40653518

>>40653168
Because the 8 Tempus guys are super unique, right? Also even if they hire 5 generic girls they know they will all eclipse those 8 guys in money the moment they open superchats and membership, so why not just do it? What are they gaining here ONLY focusing on StarsEN?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 18:55:40 2023 No.40653542 >>40646278 A real man doesn't work pointless office jobs from home so he can watch streams all day, or sit streaming MMOs for 12 hours at a time and making thousands, or buy girly pointless merch to bankroll his pretend girlfriend, but here we are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 18:59:15 2023 No.40653715 >>40604278 TARR

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 19:01:53 2023 No.40653852 >>40653518 A foothold in a market they currently have no presence in. Realistically most of EN3s viewers will be existing viewers and customers. But most of Tempus's viewers are not existing customers.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 19:06:27 2023 No.40654068

>>40653852
>Realistically most of EN3s viewers will be existing viewers and customers.
>Realistically
According to what? And why the same can't be applied to Tempus 2? They already had less people watching their debuts, so isn't the same thing happening with them?

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 19:11:23 2023 No.40654345

>>40654068
Indeed the same can be said of Tempus 2.
But then the same could be said of literally every gen that isn't a first.
Cover ran the numbers and looked over their analytics. Then took a look at what talent they had available.
This was the decision they made.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 19:12:09 2023 No.40654391
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Outside of us weeb, why the FUCK would a Western person want to watch some weird Japanese named person over Markiplier?
Both are very Asian, obviously, but one is names fucking MARK.
We like Japanese companies. Everyone likes Nintendo. Do you know who is the most recognizable character? MARIO.
Look at your successes. What were they named? AMELIA.
A western person, unless they live near an Asian community do not think about Asians at all. You have to meet us halfway if you want Westerners to dip their toes into the water.
That will never change.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 19:15:22 2023 No.40654542 >>40603991 Because it is his job to ensure his investment succeeds?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 19:22:27 2023 No.40654885 >>40654542 >shitting on a larger, more profitable investment in favor of a smaller, less-bullish one genius business move!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 19:27:21 2023 No.40655116 File: 31 KB, 480x480, 1649052841283.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>40654391 >Look at your successes. What were they named? Slow down, teamate, before you embarass yourself

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 19:33:03 2023 No.40655381

>>40654345
>Cover ran the numbers and looked over their analytics. Then took a look at what talent they had available.
They did it wrong if the conclusion they reached was "completely ignore HoloEN, focus all attention into StarsEN" because by early 2022 there was still excitement for the branch and everyone was expecting a new gen, so the data they had available came before the no-streams period, not to mention the 4 new guys were hired before October (just look at when their channels were created) so the high (or low if you prefer) point of that period didn't even happen yet, and with that information do you really believe it was a good idea to put HoloEN on the backburner for what might end up being 2 whole years? And as much as retards in this board love to shit on them Holox was an overall success so no, the same can't be said about every gen that isn't the first.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 20:47:24 2023 No.40658802 >>40654885 Makes you wonder what the investors are thinking right now.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 21:42:15 2023 No.40661242
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>>40603991
Breeding selection program to save the japanese birthrate crisis. The HoloEN girls are the test subjects for experiment HomoEN. They killed the man but not the ide (nor the younger clone).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 21:43:49 2023 No.40661300 >>40654391 >You have to meet us halfway if you want Westerners to dip their toes into the water. I actually want all of you to fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 21:52:17 2023 No.40661638 >>40661300 Then don't expect people to watch your homos retard. In fact, Vesper and Axel are doing an Izakaya. No one knows what the fuck that is, why would they tune into it? I'm not even being mean.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 21:53:39 2023 No.40661701 >>40661638 I'm not watching homos either, I literally just want you to fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 21:56:57 2023 No.40661827 File: 453 KB, 796x800, 1670786456322844.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>40661701 Getting a little uppity there for someone so close to our military bases. It's alright. We are merciful. I do so enjoy these Japanese puppet girls. So funny!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 21:59:52 2023 No.40661955 >>40644784 Omega is the producer, not the manager. He/She/It makes the food but it doesn't choose the recipes

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 22:26:22 2023 No.40663593

>>40644784
Its tough to say if their applications even got seen.
You ever do hiring for a position that gets a lot of applications?
You basically throw the majority of the applications in the bin without ever looking at them, simply because it's too much effort to go through every single one.
This is why modern recruiters are so hype about standardised forms and phrasing. It lets them use computers to search for keywords and phrases.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 22:35:53 2023 No.40664141 >>40603991 A new challenge. EN3 would have been more fruitful though since EN 1 and 2 don't even stream.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 22:49:16 2023 No.40664878 >>40605547 well he said west, niji can have all the chink ladies cover will never get

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 23:25:04 2023 No.40666998 >>40631994 Nice revisionism bug

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 23:29:45 2023 No.40667258

>>40641825
Totally agreed with this. Hell, even just retweeting that they're looking for girls would reassure everyone that there's still some movement on that side. People would be a lot more accepting of the guys if it wasn't obvious that Cover seems to be 100% focused on them instead of the content people tune in for.

Anonymous Mon Jan 9 23:38:40 2023 No.40667800

>>40603991
Because he's laying the foundation for wider mainstream acceptance. Sweaty seething incels was never the end goal but the number loyalists to support the brand through the creation phase. Fujos aren't much better? But they wash and have friends they talk to. Little steps to progress.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 9 23:54:50 2023 No.40668704 >>40667800 I doubt such a goal will succeed. Anime doesn't have that mainstream acceptance in the west and it's normal to use anime characters for fucking everything

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 00:09:10 2023 No.40669491

>>40605385
Anon, this isn't just exclusive to whenever holoStars gets a debut. ANY branch has to stop streaming whenever ANY BRANCH gets a debut in hololive productions.

If hololive JP got a new debut, no branch would be allowed to stream over them, not even holostars. Same deal if ID had a debut as well.

Is it stupid? Definitely! However, this new rule is for the whole production company, not just in regards to a single branch of the holostars brand.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 00:13:02 2023 No.40669695 >>40667800 > Fujos aren't much better? But they wash Why post such retarded lies?

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 00:16:25 2023 No.40669908

>>40669491
The rule was 100% made for the Stars, anon. Hololive doesn't need this for new debuts because even if all 21 Stars members, both JP and EN, overlapped with them the new girls would still have at least 10 times the amount of viewers, possibly 20 for HoloJP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 00:29:24 2023 No.40670741 >>40669491 It was first used for Tempus 2, and I'm betting they'll remove it or change it before next debut because it did not work well. They were funneling viewers to their competitors rather than to the debut stream.

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 00:31:04 2023 No.40670843

>>40669908
> The rule was 100% made for the Stars, anon.
Being made because of stars doesn't mean it won't apply to everyone else. I mean, was anyone in holstars JP allowed to stream when Tempus 2 was debuting? If they can't steam over them, I doubt anyone else will be allowed to stream over a hololive debut either

> Hololive doesn't need this for new debuts because... still have at least 10 times the amount of viewers
That doesn't mean it won't happen. cover has made unnecessary rules and restrictions in the past, so applying this as a blanket rule to hololive isn't out of the question.

Of course, time will tell if this only applies to hololive streaming over holostars specifically. This is the first time it's happened after all.

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 00:38:16 2023 No.40671257

>>40670843
It also happened with Uproar's 3D debuts and only Rio broke the 10k mark while the other 3 got progressively less viewers. This rule is retarded, as >>40670741 only helped to funnel viewers to their competitors and for some retarded reason Tempus 2 debuts overlapped with the Japanese afternoon ON A FUCKING SUNDAY. Who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to put their debuts on a timeslot a lot of the JP girls like to use on a free day? It's like they purposefully want to fuck up HoloJP just to push with their Nijisanji-copycat project.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:02:03 2023 No.40672853 >>40603991 He really wants back in the Chinese market. Hes hoping the males will pull in the Chinese fujos

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:05:26 2023 No.40673068 >>40603991 I think it might be because he likes them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:09:44 2023 No.40673358 >>40671257 You're telling me they're letting tempus damage JP as well as completely destroying EN? jesus, take the person responsible behind the shed

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:13:07 2023 No.40673567

>>40673358
>>40671257
This is most likely a case of a policy being imposed with good intentions but then failing to properly communicate internally on scheduling. With those debuting assuming they don't need to bother talking to others as they have priority.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:15:20 2023 No.40673717 Friendly reminder that in regards to Holostars in general, Tempus is a massive success. Maybe follow your own words for once retards and stop trying to compare Hololive and Holostars.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:16:42 2023 No.40673803 >>40673717 The problem is them trying to merge the two branches.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:18:39 2023 No.40673945 >>40673803 Except they aren't. Collabs have been few and far between, and majority of the girls don't even acknowledge the boys, similar to HoloJP. Its /vt/ who can't get the cocks out of their minds.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:18:45 2023 No.40673950 >>40673717 Factor in collateral damage to the girl’s brand and opportunity costs and it is a massive failure. It would probably be a good case study for an mba curriculum.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:19:10 2023 No.40673982 >>40673717 Tempus isnt compared to live,or starsJP, it's compared to NijiEN which it's trying to emulate, and it's a complete failure at capturing that market as well as poisoning the existing market in the attempt

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:21:54 2023 No.40674184 >>40673950 Oh yeah nothing to do with the lack of streams, surely is someone else fault

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:22:52 2023 No.40674257 >>40620125 you want them to suffer and forever be nobody?

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:24:05 2023 No.40674329

>>40673567
>failing to properly communicate internally on scheduling
There was no reason to debut them so fucking late. Even Tempus 1 started their debuts 2 hours before the first Tempus 2, and they debut 2 per day instead of 4 on the same day. So with the first guys the debuts went from 10AM to 12PM JST on a Saturday and a Sunday, while Tempus 2 went from 12 to 4PM JST on a Sunday. The person who did this was either insanely retarded or actually fucking malicious.

>>40673717
People will stop comparing Tempus with Hololive when Cover stops treating like HoloEN doesn't exists and assure people they'll debut a new gen soon. There was literally no reason to dedicate the entirety of 2022 to them, from shilling their auditions, to only debuting them and lifting their collab ban earlier exclusively for HoloEN and ID, while never ever reminding people that the open auditions were for girls as well, not to mention the 17-month wait (and counting) for a new gen since Council's debut.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:24:44 2023 No.40674363 >>40673982 >Ignores all of the threads that constantly compare Tempus numbers with HoloEN girls y-yeah, we're totally not comparing them to HoloEN

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:25:19 2023 No.40674390 >>40674184 It’s everything but the elephant in room. Ogey. Also see opportunity cost. Newer gens have higher output.

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:30:02 2023 No.40674695

>>40603991
Its simple, in Japan Niji is seen as the Mainstream normie friendly Vtuber Company while Holo is seen as a waifu and otaku oriented idol company.
Yagoo wants his idol company to be like the more socially acceptable Niji and is willing to throw away the undesirable elements of the fanbase (which also are the main differentiator and money maker for Holo) to get there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:36:10 2023 No.40675070 >>40674695 cant wait until he's fired and PekoMari become joint CEOs

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:40:52 2023 No.40675393

>>40640644
The damage has already been done. Unicorns have already left them. So it makes sense to continue as before....in hopes they may gain different followers.
Stars is a test branch. Can see them accelerating like Niji, but slowing down once they have enough members. What should have been done with HoloEN.
But all these strategies ignores that finding that special entertaining vtuber (Vox, Pekora, Gura) is hard to do. Also, some are late bloomers (Miko, Susei).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 01:53:57 2023 No.40676174 >>40674695 Despite that it seems like Hololive has all the big public partnerships and advertising deals. You don't see niiji girls on TV after all.

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 02:45:08 2023 No.40680233

>>40676174
This idea that Hololive doesn't appeal to a mainstream is completely insane. An agency with streamers who can hit 100k viewers is not part of a weird niche in any way whatsoever, and the people who keep pushing this idea are retarded EOPs who think they know what is like in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 03:32:10 2023 No.40684167 >>40661242 HE LIVES

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 04:12:33 2023 No.40686761 >>40625221 >oginat >oni tag anagram >>40653715 >tarr >something that bloats the truth Proof that Ayame is his niece! You read it here first!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 05:20:15 2023 No.40690482 >>40603991 failure recognize failure

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 05:26:52 2023 No.40690802

>>40676174
More TV and commercial appearances yes, but partnerships and sponsor deals, niji has a ton actually shitposting aside. but that's probably because most sponsors have connections with china which already eliminates cover in the first place. there's a reason they can pump out as much fags in a span of few years like a gatling gun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 05:27:36 2023 No.40690830 >>40603991 https://files.catbox.moe/3i1ujz.mp4

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 06:04:17 2023 No.40692492 >>40667800 the funny thing about these posts is that they reek even worse of being femcels

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 06:16:10 2023 No.40692981 >>40676174 >You don't see niiji girls on TV after all What? https://kai-you.net/article/85038 https://twitter.com/Chutohanpa1234/status/1526691052551168002

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 07:25:34 2023 No.40695314

I think it'll be fine for Holostars. Nijimales didn't start out big either, and they got shitted on for 'leeching' from the girls, that shit didn't stop until recently, even Kaida Haru or literal trans like Genzuki and Mayuzumi got shitted on for trying to interact with female vtubers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 08:11:30 2023 No.40696476 >>40604080 Will it eventually work?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 08:37:51 2023 No.40697111 File: 813 KB, 1000x666, 1563863604295.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>40603991 Probably fujoshi market is bigger than we think Yagoo has plan. And it will success

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 10:04:21 2023 No.40699031 >>40667800 >Fujos aren't much better? But they wash Hory shet he doesn't know. He really doesn't know.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 10:10:01 2023 No.40699170 >>40697111 Oh yeah, look at all those fujos watching the guys. So many they can't even beat Mel playing Kirby in the middle of the morning.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 10:11:22 2023 No.40699215 Do you not realize how much money female fans spend in oshi related stuff? I'll give you a hint it's way more than male fans.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 10:13:06 2023 No.40699273 >>40699215 LMAO what? The audience for vtubers is consistently 90%+ across the board.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 10:19:12 2023 No.40699456 >>40699215 Yeah and they're all sucking nijifags cocks not holostars. that's the problem.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 10:19:58 2023 No.40699479 >>40699456 why do you think he's adding more Holosta members you donut?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 10:20:32 2023 No.40699492 >>40699215 Sure, it might be pretty big, but why are they treating their already paying fanbase like trash by completely ignoring HoloEN when they could've just expanded their main branch and also push a new product to a new audience at the same time?

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 10:24:33 2023 No.40699594

>>40695314
>Nijimales didn't start out big either, and they got shitted on for 'leeching' from the girls

Literally, more nijimales are recognized and have more subs than the girls on the domestic side. Why would guys like kuzuha, fuwa, and even rikiichi leech from the girls, when they're audiences are entirely different. "that shit didn't stop until recently", lol this fucking homo ain't even hiding the fact that they're a newfag

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 10:30:40 2023 No.40699766

>>40699479
>why do you think he's adding more Holosta members you donut?

easy answer. yagoo tried to play catch-up in the male vtuber market but yet again, ended up doing it too late just like on the jp side. also, probably hoping one of them is a hit among fujos to get in the coins. but so far, no one's sticking in the new batch. we'll see in the coming months, but so far not much promise.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 10:38:34 2023 No.40700004 >>40695314 Imagine using Mayuyu as someone who's leeching from the girls. KEK Tell me another joke anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 10:39:51 2023 No.40700041 >>40603991 Yagoo wants to realize his true dream of owning a fuckboi harem

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 10:45:19 2023 No.40700187

>>40699594
>more nijimales are recognized and have more subs than the girls on the domestic side. Why would guys like kuzuha, fuwa, and even rikiichi leech from the girls, when they're audiences are entirely different
Oof. A newfag calling others a newfag.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 10:56:02 2023 No.40700513 >>40695314 Right. Because male and female interactions weren't a thing ever since their first gen. You heard it here guys, Deron and Mito were the epitome of idols. Who knew.

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 11:40:15 2023 No.40702083

>>40650895
>That's why I wonder how long this charade will keep going. Yagoo might be the CEO but he's not the one with financial interests, and the people who are investing in Cover will soon start asking why the hell they're not doing anything with the branch that became the biggest thing in vtubing in only a couple of months and was the first actual win the company ever had against it's competitors.
LOL
Delusional ENshart

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 11:40:26 2023 No.40702085 >>40700513 Yeah? JK gumi doesn't have male in the group and they were the only relevant group at the time. Male and female interactions were also frowned upon, just like the current Tempus and HoloEN.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 12:34:01 2023 No.40703955 >>40702083 Riveting commentary.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 13:40:56 2023 No.40705948 >>40603991 He believes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 13:41:44 2023 No.40705967 He WILL debut his own vtuber model someday. Watch.

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 14:27:40 2023 No.40707537

>>40702085
Kenmochi debuted less than a month after the first gen, and Gamers had Kuzuha and Kanae since the beginning. The only thing with Nijisanji at the time was how Nijisanji proper, Gamers and later on the same year Seeds (who also had a mix of guys and girls) weren't allowed to collab between themselves, but interactions within those "branches" were never gender segregated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 14:42:52 2023 No.40708094 >>40699215 The size of a female whale can be insane, an otaku salaryman can only put so much of his paycheck into the hobby while girls can squeeze dry their husband/ bf/ boss/ male friends, all at the same time, for merch spending money.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 16:03:37 2023 No.40711354 >>40603991 Males >>

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 16:18:35 2023 No.40712085 >>40661242 HOLY RRAT, HE DOES LOOK LIKE YAGOO

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 16:19:13 2023 No.40712113 >>40603991 he loves dick

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 17:33:58 2023 No.40715385 >>40603991 its the job

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 17:50:52 2023 No.40716144 The investors behind Cover are pulling the string, not Yagoo. Some investors are pozzed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 19:01:37 2023 No.40718820 >>40716144 So these investors saw how bad StarsJP performed and thought it would be a good ideal to try it again with EN while delaying a new HoloEN gen for what could end up being 2 whole years?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 21:16:40 2023 No.40724092 >>40605385 This has to stop

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 21:26:33 2023 No.40724530 >>40604265 >This strategy isn't going to work for Niji or Cover. Ever. Doesn't it work for Niji tho

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 21:29:46 2023 No.40724659 File: 1.06 MB, 1280x720, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>40612763 Darusaka are incredibly based and pull great numbers but I don't know if I would call them vtubers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 21:33:42 2023 No.40724832 >>40724530 Look at the difference in debut group songs numbers tho.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 21:36:08 2023 No.40724859 >>40650895 He invested his own money into StarsJP, because the investors wouldn't touch it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 21:41:55 2023 No.40725073 >>40652047 This is why management gets so much deserved hate. We know they'll always be the side-branch, but they get next to no support with any of their projects and that's completely unacceptable. EN needs their own A-chan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 21:45:55 2023 No.40725213 >>40654885 Diversifying is smart though, don't put all your eggs in one basket and all that.

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 22:30:47 2023 No.40727150

>>40603991
Doesn't understand the market.
To be fair, I don't think most people anticipated HoloEN to be as successful as they were, yeah it was in large part due to novelty during the lockdowns, but the amount of unicorns who want virgin larping anime girls was actually in huge demand in EN male weeb interests.
If this was 5-10 years ago, it wouldn't have worked, but because of the sheer amount of sexless men out there with disposable income, communal e-girls are in high demand.

Western women have no interest in male vtubers because their access to men in their own lives has not been curtailed like western men or asian women.

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 22:40:12 2023 No.40727573

>>40724859
If that’s true and the ownership structure reflects his investment that is actually a huge red flag and conflict of interest. He would have an incentive to push stars at the expense of hololive proper and the other investors should remove him from leadership.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 22:43:21 2023 No.40727708 >>40725213 only if your investments are synergistic, not antagonistic. You're the kind of idiot who bets on two teams playing against each other and thinks that means you're going to win

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 22:44:04 2023 No.40727726 >>40727708 >Synergistic That's what they're hoping for.

Anonymous Tue Jan 10 22:47:56 2023 No.40727900

Holostars IS successful, you're just comparing them to Hololive, which is unfair.

The reality is, the guys have to be entertaining to keep a crowd, the girls just have to show up and pathetic simps throw money at their model and voice. That's it, that's the rub. There are literally girls who stream twice a month and take home a 6 figure income at the end of the year. That's how pathetic people are with "ooo it's a girl!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 10 22:57:00 2023 No.40728263 >>40727726 And that isn't happening, especially with Cover acting like the open auditions are only for guys.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 00:06:47 2023 No.40731215 >>40603991 >Why is Yagoo so OBSESSED with trying to make Holostars successful? Do you think he will succeed?

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 00:50:25 2023 No.40733511

>>40727900
dude no, hololive girls are legit the top fermale streamers in the world, ALL the fermale streamers.

Tempus so need to pull the numbers of top flesh tubers, they must DO BETTER THAN THE GIRLS.

This is the real dumb reasoning behind tempus push.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 01:36:49 2023 No.40735961 >>40603991 I hope A-Chan kills him for ruining her company.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 01:41:16 2023 No.40736257 >>40731215 tempoop are doing considerably worse than tempiss, who have completely stalled out, so no

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 02:20:04 2023 No.40738880 >>40603991 >Why? self-sabotage

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 03:28:28 2023 No.40743824 >>40605063 based

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 04:04:42 2023 No.40745878 >>40603991 Where's ID stars?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 05:13:21 2023 No.40749607 File: 960 KB, 768x1152, 1672641772224589.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>40603991 They're trying to draw in a new pool of viewers. Instead they're disgruntling their biggest supporters like me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 05:17:52 2023 No.40749851 >>40724530 It worked for them exactly once because they hit the Chinese fujo jackpot with Vox. Note how they never hit it again after that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 06:20:16 2023 No.40753023 >>40603991 He just follows what NijiEN does

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 06:43:07 2023 No.40754027

>>40753023
Remember when the first time Cover did something before Anycolor was also the first even win they got over their rivals? Ironic to see them relapsing back to their copycat phase when they would've gained so much more by just continuing with the same angle that made them THE vtuber company for most of 2021.

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 07:05:26 2023 No.40754940

>>40644871
Tempus would be so cool if it were a guild going out on adventures and things in MMOs or co-op games as an adventuring party.

I actually think the inability to utilize the great idea of a guild of vtubers hurts them more than it helps them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 09:05:43 2023 No.40758672 >>40605063 Who?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 09:09:13 2023 No.40758762 >>40753023 expect mixed wave next year

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 09:12:49 2023 No.40758843

>>40753023
The utter tragedy of that statement is only eclipsed by the stupidity of decision making behind it. Hololive and HoloEN in particular genuinely have no vision, no ideal, nothing. They have no goddamn idea what they're doing. And they had it all. They cornered the idol scene and could've expanded on it, create a perpetual ecosystem of profit and content - and they did, just to piss it all away into nothingness.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 09:16:23 2023 No.40758935 >>40650895 >during the entirety of 2022 Cover never once reminded people about the HoloEN auditions like they did 3 times with StarsEN Well yeah, they probably got a shitzillion applicants for it the first time and didn't need aditional calls.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 09:18:50 2023 No.40758990 >>40620802 They’re not cosplaying gura because they like her

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 09:25:07 2023 No.40759128 >>40644870 You Esl?

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 09:30:21 2023 No.40759239

>>40650895
If you wanna know why: tempus 2/1 had a fucking weird development process that led to their being a second one so soon to not screw over two new people
It’s been talked about by some of the members but it’s no excuse for en3
It cant be that hard to find some new girls and I don’t think they had their hands so full with 2 boys that they couldn’t get the girls in this many months

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 09:34:11 2023 No.40759316 >>40670741 Nah, it happened with starsjp too The only thing it doesn't affect is outfit debuts

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 09:45:52 2023 No.40759623 >>40620802 >cosplaying Most cosplayers cosplay female characters simply because this character is popular and they can leech or even earn from their popularity. They don't care about the character or the Vtuber whatsoever.

Anonymous Wed Jan 11 09:46:21 2023 No.40759632

>>40758843
HoloJP has an actual vision. The branch is only growing and actually bringing new fans by going even harder on the idol thing with the multiple 3D lives that keep getting better even if at a slower pace, the whole holo*27 project and stuff like the Year of the Rabbit celebration with Pekora on the spotlight. It's EN that's being completely trashed by their incompetent management who thought it would be a good ideal to distance their talents from the idol label and focus on streamers who end up streaming less than the JP idols, and I wonder if shit like the collab section of the NYE live show was an idea pushed by that side.

>>40758935
DYRBI? If they have shitzillion of applicants wheres HoloLIVE EN3? They can't get 5 girls to compose a new gen with such a huge pool of candidates but were able to find 8 guys on a much reduced number of options?

>>40759239
That's the point of it. If they can find 6 "great" picks for StarsEN it's insane to think they couldn't find 10 or 15 for HoloEN. The auditions started a whole year ago, back when HoloEN was still the premier female vtuber agency and the only thing NijiEN had going for was the recently debuted Luxiem, which I don't remember being that huge yet only 2-ish weeks after they started streaming. EN3 doesn't exist not because they can't find good picks, not because western women are all whores, not because the current roster isn't streaming (and the no-stream period only started from mid to late 2022), not because someone dropped and Cover decided to cancel the project. It doesn't exist because for some godforsaken reason Cover doesn't want to do it, has no interest in hyping it and is probably not even paying attention to any of the auditions tagged for Hololive EN.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 11 11:22:05 2023 No.40763481 >>40608303 no

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