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40535528 No.40535528 [Reply] [Original]

Good job Cover, there's ZERO viewers overlap and you're still buttfucking the rest of hololive.

>> No.40535725 [DELETED] 

cope and seethe

>> No.40535975

>>40535528
Hololive's goal is clearly to create antis, the only debate is what's their endgame?

>> No.40535991

Maybe this will get some of JP audience to protest. If EN is fully pozzed JP could be targeted next.

>> No.40535992

>>40535725
Over what? The fact that your new homos flopped even harder then the last ones who were already a huge flop? I’m 99 percent sure cover did this to try and salvage tempus by appealing to woman instead of men and they still flopped

>> No.40536327

I honestly don't understand cover's position. They made bank off of cgdct and now they keep throwing homos at the wall that can't keep a fraction of the numbers the most menhara female vtubers do.
If I wanted to watch a guy id watch a fleshtuber. Noone wants anime guys, and if they do they are already watching the homo in chief vox. There's a reason anime girls are so popular

>> No.40536359

>>40535528
>hololive streams over Tempus original debuts
>they get 30-40k
>hololive streams banned during Tempus 2 debuts
>new ones get 20k
lol

>> No.40536394

>>40535725
Fucking tourist GTFO my board fagOt

>> No.40536418

They really need to just make EN and JP distinct with the way they're going. It's like they want to compete with NijiEN. I won't be surprised if next wave is a mixed gender GamersEN.

>> No.40536425

>>40535991
Please bring this to Japs that's the only way to circumvent T-chan's filter.

>> No.40536555 [DELETED] 

>>40535725
Seething tranny that would suck a dick just to get another below mediocre male gen out there.
Literally toss yourself off a fucking building you trash.

>> No.40536661

>>40535992
>>40536394
>>40536555
Now say that again without crying.

>> No.40536708

Just get on your VPNs and cry on channel 5.
Let them know the gaijins also think the rules are idiotic and unsustainable. Not even Anycolor does it.

>> No.40536726

>>40536327
Omega simply really likes genderfluid femboys. He forgot what company he worked for, hired 8 fags and it's too late to correct course.

>> No.40536820

>>40536726
Doesn't he know you can fuck the fembous without having to officially hire them? It's called consulting fees.

>> No.40536829

>>40536425
I didn't know T-chan prefilters all the stream analytics and merch numbers too.

>> No.40536826

>>40536661
Laughing my ass off, more like it.

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>>40535528
>tempiss 1 has homo overlap
>their numbers are garbage
>management tells JP they can't stream over them
>management hijacks ENs their twitter and retweets them
>their numbers are half of tempiss 1 debubts

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>> No.40537019

>stream ban to force me to watch homos
>watch literally anything else instead

>> No.40537075

>>40535992
Cope and seethe, seethe and cope. Poisoned by numbers of the girls when the numbers the boys are getting are perfectly fine.

>> No.40537124

For EN 25 to 30k is a great stream.

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>>40536826
>Laughing my ass off, more like it.

>> No.40537188

GOT WORSE NUMBERS WITH THE OVERLAP RULE ON PLACE LOOOOOOOOOOL

>> No.40537203

>>40535528
Honestly its better this way, then they can't blame overlap when the boys get shit numbers

>> No.40537226

>>40536327
Just over a year ago it wasn't that exceptional for a holo to get over 30k, 40k even 50k subscribers a month. Now, that's a humongous feat. They've reached the market cap and need to expand into new territory or else they risk stagnation.

>> No.40537248

>>40535528
go post about in on reddit you fucking weirdo, this isn't your personal blog

>> No.40537360

>Subaru straight up tweeting she's unable to stream the RPG that 25000 people wanted to watch
>Kanata was talking about it being unsustainable to have interruptions in streaming for the growing company and many holos agreeing with this

meanwhile
>the new homos debut numbers aren't even matching Subaru's random RPG stream numbers

The overlap rule is gonna be quite short-lived.

>> No.40537400

>>40537226
Doesn't help that over half of en's streaming hour graphs look like the fucking crypto market. Ain't gonna get viewers if there isn't anything to view

>> No.40537458

>>40535528
This rule is ridiculous. If anything it should only apply within the branch. Literally no subatomo is watching Tempus 2.

>> No.40537478
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>>40536327
EN management is full of faggots and fujos, simple as. Same reason they bully the girls into hiatus and soft graduation. Same thing happened to sony deferring to their cuckifornia branch. Never let american coastalfags manage a japanese business, in fact never put them in positions of authority at all.

>> No.40537486

>>40537163
Watching the burning wreck of HoloEN after being called an incel for months, I love it.

>> No.40537532

>Block everyone else from streaming.
>Try to introduce homolive.
>Ina returns tomorrow.
>Gets all the fucking attention instead.
MAXIMUM
W A H
A
H

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>>40535528
This is all YAGOOs doing.
Even if EN got subverted and Omegatranny was in charge of shitting up branch, EN wouldn't have the power to force all of JP to stop streaming.
This decision definitely comes from JPs higher ups.

>> No.40537592

Keep the rule in place. I want to see people turncoat on Cover.
I want Civil War but for real this time.

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>>40537532
>Ina's random stream talking about Capybaras will mog Tempus2

>> No.40537845

>>40537532
>Homo mentioned capybara
>only thing she did during her break is a homosong
Get ready for nothing but homobegging in her chat.

>> No.40537854

>>40537478
Honestly I believe this. How did we get into a position where fucking NINTENDO is where the uncensored/less censored shit is.

>> No.40537868

>>40537532
>Tacucks unironically hyped after literally 3 months of complete radio silence
Absolute subhumans

>> No.40537900

>>40537766
I want this. You motherfuckers better all show up. Send the irrefutable message.

>> No.40537930

>>40537868
It's way more exciting than anything Live right now

>> No.40538109

>>40537868
What else is there to do or watch if you don't speak moon runes? Watch the homos? I'd rather watch niji and frankly id prefer getting my dick stomped on over that

>> No.40538112

>>40537868
enjoy getting hypermogged, homobeggar

>> No.40538182

>>40535528
This homo protection rule is the dumbest thing Cover has ever done. Even more so than the Holocaust, even more so than debuting Tempoop instead of (hololive) EN3.

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>>40537900
>Imagine celebrating 3 months worth of ghosting so you can "own the homos"
Thank God I'm not a takek

>> No.40538380

It wouldn't be a problem if that fucking faggot "no one else can stream during debuts or 3d debuts" bullshit new rule. Why would someone that only watches the JP girls give a fuck about watching a fucking EN-only male streamer debut? What in the fucking goddamn hell kinda logic is that? This was never an issue before. It feels like yagoo is genuinely losing his fucking mind and he legit wants to slowly turn things into Nijisanji. Reminder that he has gone on record saying he regrets having kept the males and females separate. Stupid fucking old japanese man ruining everything for everyone, which is basically mandatory for every jap company ever to have a piece of shit boss in charge that actively does the opposite of what everyone else wants.

>> No.40538522

>>40537532
Oh shit, you're right. Going to watch her with adblock off to make sure my view counts.

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>>40538360
That's even better. They're instead stating that a girl who disappears for 1/4 of a year is worth more than a whole gen of homos.

>> No.40538765

3 regions, 2 entirely separate target demographics, over 70 talents.
But sure let's put everyone on hold whenever someone debuts lmao
I wanna like Cover because I despise Nijisanji but they go full retard sometimes

>> No.40538789

I've just been ignoring Tempus, but now Cover has given me a reason to dislike them. Complete waste of a saturday.

>> No.40538855

Can we really blame Yagoo?
Ever since Abe's assassination, someone in Japan has to take it upon themselves to make men and women interact and lead up to the ultimate offcollab: the birth of a child.

>> No.40538889

>>40538642
Watching gura not stream at all is still preferable to the homo menace

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>>40538642
And let's not get into the fact that management forced Gura to stop streaming so she wouldn't hold a karaoke stream right after the homos all debut and get twice their numbers.

>> No.40539173

>>40535528
wtf is this Yagoo.

>> No.40539286

>>40537486
This time for sure right?

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>>40538109
Can't even do anything IF you speak moonrunes because management didn't let them overlap. And they still got shit numbers.

>> No.40539363

>>40535528
Tempus 1 having higher viewers count despite overlap with holo, tempus 2 with lower viewers despite hololive stopped all streaming slot exclusively for them.

Yea it sound like a flop

>> No.40539370

>>40537226
Makes sense. So Niji will now want to go for CGDCT customers while Holo is already trying to get female/fujo customers.

>> No.40539466

>>40538642
Are we "protest viewing" Ina's stream tomorrow?
Isn't this actually a very Japanese form of protest ( Huelga a la japonesa I think it's called)?

>> No.40539501

>>40539286
The damage is clear as day.

>> No.40539633

>>40539313
I mean if they take my favorite snack from me and serve me shit on a plate do they really expect me to eat it because it's there?

>> No.40539707

>>40539313
Because of course they would. This is so poorly thought out it just exposes coed member support as a complete failure.

>> No.40539791

>>40539466
Sounds fun, I'm in.

>> No.40539813

>>40537360
Numberfags really do live in their own universe.
Seething that you're favorite person isn't going to get a make believe medal today?

>> No.40539917

>>40539363
It was clear from their previews and tweets no one is interested. They just feel like complete filler. Omega really wanted to capture the South American market but it's non existent.

>> No.40539932

>>40538380
>Why would someone that only watches the JP girls give a fuck about watching a fucking EN-only male streamer debut?
Why the fuck not? Hololive fans are supposed to like everyone in Holopro, unlike Nijifags who only watch one or two people and anti everyone else

>> No.40540070

>>40537868
We've been through a lot, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrgfVsBIUQI

>> No.40540092

>>40539466
I was probably gonna watch it anyway but we need to remind cover what the audience is actually watching for.

>> No.40540162

>>40539932
>Hololive fans are supposed to like everyone in Holopro
What kind of delusion is this?

>> No.40540256

>>40539932
That's the thing, holoLIVE fans. Not holoSTAR fans. We don't want them. We don't need them. I'd rather watch filler episodes of naruto on repeat than even entertain thought of looking at their channel.

>> No.40540415

>>40538380
I doubt this is Yagoo's idea. He concedes to incompetent directors because he's a humble tech guy, not a business whiz. His hands-off approach worked for a while, until they hired enough middle management to fuck it all up.

>> No.40540454

>>40538642
>Homos so bad they make us look (takos) not so bad haha!
Takos have no self-respect. You reach cuckbeat, chumfuck and teacuck levels of cuckery.
KFP is the last standing respectable Myth fanbase.

>> No.40540490

>>40537019
I'm watching random three view YouTube videos. Not even Vtubers, just the most obscure YouTube shit. Way to go cover.

>> No.40540645

>>40539932
>Hololive fans are supposed to like everyone in Holopro
t. dipshit middle manager.

>> No.40540801

>>40537124
Sorry ESLs but nobody likes your homos. Go eat Kobo's Tempus loving shit.

>> No.40540949

>>40539932
>Why the fuck not? Hololive fans are supposed to like everyone in Holopro
Are we?

>> No.40541088

>>40537019
I watched some videos on refrigerator and laundry machine maintenance and repair.

>> No.40541138

>>40538642
because she is

>> No.40541198

>>40537124
Pppppppppffffff HAHAHHAHAHAHA

>> No.40541375

>>40537588
We already know it is higher management decision yes

>> No.40541420

>>40540490
3 views are still in the "actually give a shit phase" and the models im seeing with indie 3 or 4views are fantastic, cover really needs to get rid of their proprietary shit
>>40541088
I saw the coffeezilla thing and ended up getting sucked down a rabbit hole of internet scam youtubers

>> No.40541443

Let's fucking go, anons. Ina better have atleast 50k ccv. Time to show cover who their boss is.

>> No.40541536

Is one of the Tempus members a discord kitten of someone in a high position? Why are they pushing for them so much.

>> No.40541679

>>40537766
Hold up, she's gonna talk about mother fucking capybaras?
I love those little dudes.
Not really a tako but I'll watch that.

>> No.40541714

>>40535528
>doesn't mention Tempus in her post at all
Lmao, even the nice girls want nothing to do with these guys.

>> No.40541787

>>40539917
I checked tempus 1 debuts because at least their designs were appealing.
Tempus 2 all look like little manwhores made so fujos can masturbate to them so thanks.

>> No.40542044

>>40541536
A lot of it is pushed to destroy idol culture and own the incels. It’s not the first hobby they invade and ruin. They don’t stick around after they ruin it though.

>> No.40542050

>>40536327
Nobody cares about your opinion

>> No.40542173

>>40542050
Seppuku yourself omega.

>> No.40542525

>>40542173
You're talking to a different person. I'm just a mere Miko Koyo Marine oshi.

>> No.40542658

>>40542525
Haha nice larp faggot.

>> No.40543312

I don't see how this is going to make the Japanese have babies.

>> No.40543775

>>40543312
You show the viewers male and female interaction instead of it being completely one sided and leading to a genetic dead end.

>> No.40544621

>>40543775
teaching people to be cucks isn't going to help them get laid
however if you show that there's an amazing woman out there it can inspire yourself to improve yourself to be worthy of her

>> No.40545021

Yeah keep seething fat cunts.

>> No.40545073

>>40543775
>>40544621
Wasn't Spy X Family actually successful at getting people to want families in Japan because the little girl was very cute and triggered poeple's desire to have children?

>> No.40545199

>>40544621
A single woman can only give birth every 8~9 months at best for less than half of their lives years. The viewers need to seek out other mates.

>> No.40545215

>>40535528
Let me remind you faggots that a half day of this shit doesn't really drain money. You're not business graduates or have a degree in business management. Don't act like you're some sort of bigwig faggot who thinks they know what's Cover's best interests. None of us know how they work so shut the fuck up already.

>> No.40545227

>>40545021
Nice projection

>> No.40545257

>>40543775
have you ever tried to show a panda pornography? it's not working. they'll continue being genetic dead ends.

>> No.40545273

>>40545073
no it did that in the west though, I know a lesbian that became obsessed with wanting a child because of that fucking anime

>> No.40545325 [DELETED] 

>>40545215
Go back to you hugbox nigger, I just want to watch stream.

>> No.40545355

>>40535528
Noel had to delay her Demon Souls playthrough. Finally though, she can start.

>> No.40545392

>>40545215
Who's talking about business? Viewers are mad because there's nothing to watch but holostars.

>> No.40545496

>>40545257
Meme shit. Pandas aren't dead ends they just require more from their environment that the Chinese fucked up.

>> No.40545581

>>40539932
This is what deranged hardcore unityfags actually think. You literally have less life than the average /vt/ shitter if you're watching EVERYONE.

>> No.40545586

>holofags had to either watch these debuts. or watch a boring stream about someone who literally didn't care enough to tweet for them. talk about some dumb animal.
im glad i don't watch hololive anymore

>> No.40545642

>>40537124
>30k debut
>great
each and every single one of them will be lingering on triple digit viewership

>> No.40545692

>>40537248
They can't, it got shut down because they actually bother to close that place when it gets shitty and full of trolls

>> No.40545749

>>40545199
I dropped my first oshi because of yabs, but I still learned like 2k kanji and did other stuff to improve myself during that time. That's the power of inspiration.

>> No.40545781

>>40536327
It's simple YAGOO's end-game is to save StarsJP. They first NijifyEN then they NijifyJP.

>> No.40545818

>>40545392
So don't watch them? Simple as. You guys are so glued to your vtubers you don't know what else you should do. Play a game, watch a movie, watch anime.

>> No.40545922

>>40545749
cute
have you impregnated anyone yet?

>> No.40545931

>>40545818
That's how it should've been, like the JP Stars. Instead there was a ridiculous amount of astroturfing and homo intrusion into the girls content that only backfired.

>> No.40545936

>>40537124
The general peak for HoloEN collabs and debuts is 40k.
So 30k for homos is pretty damn good, it means most of the HoloEN audience is at the very least not hostile to them.
So all the seething and hate against them is just a loud minority.

This does not however mean that they will actually retain high numbers. They might, they might not.
But people tuning to a debut don't necessarily stick around with a streamer.
Gotta consider that HoloEN audiences have been starving the last few months so they might take literally anything.

>> No.40545971

>>40545642
if they overlap sure

>> No.40546011

>>40545818
Way ahead of you on the not watching part, but why are these homoen2 fags so damn important that even the japanese girls can't stream

>> No.40546024

>>40545818
>So don't watch them?
Your reading comprehension.
>Play a game, watch a movie, watch anime
I have my own schedule, nigger.

>> No.40546034

>>40545922
Spread up.

>> No.40546067

>>40545931
you can blame the EN Management for that because I didn't ask that they should be shilled on the hololive subreddit.

>> No.40546135

>>40545922
If I wanted to do only that, I would've a long time ago.

>> No.40546186

>>40546024
yeah your schedule is probably
>watch streams
>watch streams
>watch streams
mindless fucking drone

>> No.40546235

>>40545496
Retard take.
Pandes are dead ends because they prefer eating bamboo over hunting for meat, leading to the fact that they literally spend all of their day just sitting around and processing food cause guess what, every fucking animal that is exclusively a herbivore has multiple stomach compartments because that shit fucking requires fermentation to happen
Pandas unironically deserve to die

>> No.40546361

>>40546186
I fucking wish, now go back praising Yagoo on reddit, homolover

>> No.40546391

>>40537588
Yagoo was in the spics chat and bonked him, because he wasn't speaking English for like the first half of his stream.

>> No.40546444

>>40546235
>can only live in a very specific enviroment
>barely any reproductive instinct
>awful parents
>no survival instinct
>stuck to an awful inefficient diet
Pandas live on the edge, they're barely functional enough to not go completely extinct.
If there was even a tiny little change to their lifestyle like a new predator or a climate shift they would die without question.

>> No.40546456

>>40537532
Now watch them ask if she saw Tempus 2's debut...

>> No.40546565

>>40539932
The JP girls aren't happy with this rule, if you haven't noticed.

>> No.40546619

>>40537124
It is an absolutely fucking horrible result considering:
1.It's the weekend
2.They had exclusive stream time slots with no overlap allowed from ANY branch
3.Lonely asian women primetime
4.Latinx and homo streamers for the diversity points
They'll do worse than Astel in JP and he only grinds ape sex for 60 hours every day

>> No.40546621

>>40539932
they liked the ones that didn't get forced down their throats, or at least tolerated them. pizza papa (pre-redesign), roberu, astel etc... there was definitely a way to integrate the two branches more and more (like maybe having a mixed sports-fes event or some other branch v branch thing) but EN stars poisoned the well (or management did at least)

>> No.40546679

>>40539932
>Hololive fans are supposed to like everyone in Holopro
no?

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>>40539932
I would never watch a holoEN stream but now I will watch Ina later today just to spite cover and show those retards that shit kind of shit is unacceptable.
I hope Ina completely mogs the tempoop guys.

>> No.40546879

>>40546235
>>40546444
Actual retards falling for thinktank shit.
Pandas have already begun to bounce back now that their needs are better understood.
Bamboo is easy to grow if you're not cutting it down every second.
>new predator
>climate shift
That can be said for many species including humans. You don't think even 3 celcius will fuck up a lot of the planet? You don't think a more intelligent life wouldn't fuck us up?

>> No.40546888

>>40546765
Honestly this was always Yagoo's long term plan. Even if he gets the message he'll just attempt it again with more homos down the line. I'm done with this company.

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>watching EN
>watching any homo besides picrel

>> No.40546970

>>40539466
How about we get 30k watching Mumei's Mario Kart stream instead?

>> No.40547053

>>40546935
WELL NOW WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A FUCKING CHOICE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN EVEN WATCH ANYTHING
FUCK COVER I'M DONE WITH THIS SHIT COMPANY

IF YOU DON'T WANT US TO WATCH YOUR TALENT? OKAY I WON'T WATCH YOUR SHIT AT ALL ANYMORE

>> No.40547057

>>40539917
Dude is either Mexican or Honduran and lives in the US.

>> No.40547115

>>40537360
Based Tenshi. I knew there was a reason I liked her.

>> No.40547120

>>40546970
Why not both?

>> No.40547214

>>40546970
don't get in the way of the tacuck's cope plan

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>>40536661
>Now say that again without crying.
You first.

>> No.40547248

>>40538360
I'm not a cuckodachi, but I'll watch just because. Als 'cause no streams, but also 'cause I wanna see their debuts mogged.

>> No.40547253

>>40546970
sorry I can't force myself to watch mumierda

>> No.40547288

>>40542044
This, they've done it before and they'll do again with little regard to the hobby they supposedly care about, and with no repercussions. Look at modern cartoons, english translators for video games, Star Wars, etc.

>> No.40547403

instead of crying, go watch Mel or Noel

>> No.40547494

>>40547053
it's gonna be the same with the following potential gens that'll come out this year in a theoretical order:
>ID4 - All streams will be cancelled until their debuts are finished
>JP Gen 7 - All streams will be cancelled until their debuts are finished
>EN3 - All streams will be cancelled until their debuts are finished.
I know you faggots are gonna go a complete 180 on this and go "WOOHOO NEW GIRLS, NEW BOYS" and i know some of you will be frustrated because you want to see your favorite oshi stream. Stop being a baby and stomach it, fucking christ you guys have an attention span of an actual newborn baby.

>> No.40547632

>>40547494
watch this rule get cancelled by next sunday

>> No.40547643

>>40547494
Yes, because I watch this shitty company for the girls. And this no stream rule is dumb because I still want others to have fun with their oshi,

>> No.40547699

>>40546879
What about cats? They eat any animal they can hunt and they have extremely high success rate hunting.
They can adapt to most environments.
Or rabbits, they eat grass and reproduce extremely fast.
You'd have a much harder time wiping those out because their food supply is everywhere, not limited to one fucking plant and they actually reproduce a lot.
>You don't think even 3 celcius will fuck up a lot of the planet?
Yes no shit if you do that you can start a destructive chain reaction that could fuck up everyone but it doesn't take that much to wipe out pandas.

>> No.40547722

>>40535528
>subaru streams at the exact same timeslot for years
>homos come along: "this is our timeslot now"
>banned from streaming
If JPs dont shit on cover for this then they deserve everything that is coming for them

>> No.40547760

>>40547494
No, I really don't care if EN3 get's mogged by Subaru or Pekora streaming over them.

>> No.40547781

>>40547494
Tales from cucks ass.

>> No.40547804

>>40547494
Can't wait until it's revealed that the homos are exempt from this rule and all of Tempiss stream over the new girls, whichever branch may they belong to.

>> No.40547812

>>40547494
I'm fun with streams being suspended in favor of other girls' debuts, what do you not understand?
doing it for men is retarded, the demographic isn't even the same for the most part

>> No.40548000

>>40537532
based and truthpilled, this is precisely what will happen

>> No.40548030

>>40547494
>Stop being a baby and stomach it,
Why? These are bullshit low effort videos we use to waste time. There is no sense of creativity or fandom support anymore. Indies have way better game and song picks.

>> No.40548053

>>40547632
It was only ever meant for debuts retard

>> No.40548066

nigga is just one day
the next thing would be their fucking 3d which is probbaly years away

>> No.40548084

>>40538522
will do the same as well

>> No.40548147

>>40548053
the implication is that they will see that this rule is pointless once they decided to actually look at the numbers which for this retard company would take a week minimum

>> No.40548200

>>40537766
I'm already ready to kneel so hard when this inevitably happens

>> No.40548245

>>40547812
The problem with this is execution.
If EN Stars debut, should EN Hololive stop streaming too?
Most of the Hololive viewers won't drop cute girls to watch men, but they might still check them out and talk about it on twitter which is at least a form of engagement, and giving them their view on the debut will be good for numbers.
So it does make some sense right?

Meanwhile if a JP girl debuts there's a good chance EN viewers might actually want to check her out, Hololive became popular in the west thanks to translated clips of the Hololive JP girls in the first place. So it does make sense to give the EN girls a break so the EN fans can tune in and watch their debuts right?
Maybe the same works in reverse too, give the JP fans a chance to check the EN girls even if they can't understand them, cute girls are still cute girls and they will see them in some collabs in the future so it's worth watching them.
So the ban makes sense across regions.

I think where it stops making any sense is across regions and branches. There's no chance at all a JP Hololive viewer will give any shits about an english star.
Blocking the JP girls from streaming for EN stars debuts is just fucking stupid, it achieves nothing.

>> No.40548252

>>40548066
There is literally no media company on this planet that would rather have you watch someone else than them.
Stop with this twittard logic.

>> No.40548270

Hope you fags seethe this much when Gen 7 debuts and no one overlaps it.

>> No.40548289

>>40545936
It's terrible considering those 30k came at the expense of banning everyone else from streaming in the meanwhile. 30k is a shit number when it's the total number of viewers across all streams across all branches. If you're going to shut down everyone elses stream for a big expensive event that took tons of rehersal you are expected to do better than a random Pekora stream.

>> No.40548302

>>40537900
will do

>> No.40548309

>>40547643
>because I watch this shitty company for the girls
if you watch the ENs, you're used to it
if you watch the JPs or IDs, they're just your background noise
overall, you're just a bitch

>> No.40548325

>>40548066
>nigga is just one day
Why keep making concessions when literally 1000s other indies on youtube do the exact same content as cover.

>> No.40548364

>>40548270
Why would I seethe about female vtubers debuting?

>> No.40548381

>>40535528
Pls understand. The homofags might get uppity if their homo debuts were to be magged by a normal stream. You don't want to provoke a pack of rabid trannies now, do you?

>> No.40548396

>>40548066
Yes we get it, you are a retarded fag. Why do you want everyone else to be one too?

>> No.40548425

>>40548325
>000s other indies on youtube do the exact same content as cover.
Because you idiots are watching COVER yes (You) for whatever reason

>> No.40548539

ITT:
Nijiniggers coming out of the woodwork pretending to be holo fans.
Is it because Shinri sounds like he's going to be the Vox killer with that deep voice?

>> No.40548566

>>40548425
did you not see their numbers? no one was watching tempus and it's a lucrative time slot in japan rn
this was a complete and utter failure

>> No.40548589

>>40545936
>literally all the west and SEA speak English on a high enough level to follow a stream by homoENs
>it's just 30k people on a debut
you just know it's a flop

>> No.40548592

>>40539813
This rule exists because Cover are literally numberfags themselves. Shocker, the big business wants big numbers. They're just too incompetent to realise how pointless the rule is.

>> No.40548632

>>40548539
Nijisisters already got their own voxkiller in their latest wave

>> No.40548637

>>40548566
>>>/vt/numbers

>> No.40548774

>>40548425
I don't know wtf people support hololive for anymore.

>> No.40548782

>>40548637
This might be a surprise to your tiny seanig brain but a numbers are very fucking important for a media company that produces entertainment
every eye not on tempiss 2 electric boogaloo, was an eye on niji's mahjong tourney or some 3view chuubs
control is literally the modus operandi of a media company you fucking idiot

>> No.40548966

>>40548782
Just bot them. Kpop industry does it.

>> No.40549136

>>40548632
>their latest wave
>their
Not a loss if it's in the same company.
Having it in the competitors company is where the real mogging starts.
Understandable that the nijiniggers ITT are seething over it.

>> No.40549168

>>40537360
based Kanataso speaks the truth

>> No.40549248

>>40548309
Keep projecting and moving the goalpost, homo. Just because you don't understand Japanese doesn't mean other people are the same.

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40549262

So what is the verdict JPbros?

>> No.40549285

>>40537360
Can you post proof of Kanata's statements?

>> No.40549386

>>40535528
They DID apply that new rule AFTER the first batch of Tempus came out, if you wanna complain only because it was boys that debuted just think that whenever new girls will come out they too will get this special treatment unless you also plan on bitching about it.

>> No.40549423

>>40549285
>one proof isn't enough bro, i need to keep denying this rule bs bro

>> No.40549496

>>40549386
Why should I? I love hologirls, not homoshits.

>> No.40549512

>>40549386
>whenever new girls will come out they too will get this special treatment
who gives a fuck? just stop bothering other branches ffs

>> No.40549523

>>40549386
1.This rule won't last that long.
2.Absolutely. If I want to watch a new face, I'll watch a new face. If you actively try to prevent me from watching my chuubas then you can go fuck yourself.
Literally just don't fuck with other people's oshis

>> No.40549574

>>40549386
That rule was already in effect in hololive because they actually respect each other to not stream over debuts and outfits.

>> No.40549655

>>40549423
I'm not denying it, I want to make a screenshot with all the proof combined so it's easy to post on twitter to expose it to the normies to piss people off and get backlash for cover.

>> No.40549696

>>40549523
>Literally just don't fuck with other people's oshis
Indeed. I don't know how this concept is so hard to understand to Cover management and other idiots.

>> No.40549702

>>40535528
>Zero overlap
RUMAO

>> No.40549747

>>40535528
Cover is sexist, but not in the way twittards think they are.

>> No.40549776

>>40549655
I don't watch Kanata but here from Koyori. >>40536908

>> No.40549778

>>40549574
Haachama...

>> No.40549795

>>40549574
semi-cope. Ayame/ID streaming over an important event was tradition.

>> No.40549821

>>40548539
Who?

>> No.40550203

>>40535528
Subatomo and Ahijo pls don't kyoani cover HQ

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>>40539313
and I was thinking it's all in my head when I noticed that unusual amount of holos are taking days off/going on vacation this weekend.

I don't blame them, smart move to take some distance because JP fanbase can be volatile as fuck...

>> No.40550455

Cmon /vt/ Do something about it make the homos graduate Cmon.

>> No.40550530

>>40550455
they're cowards anon all they do is seethe

>> No.40550586

>>40550455
Like what?

>> No.40550630

>>40550455
It's even worse that I thought if JP is headed the same Nijification route. I hate women so much.

>> No.40550785

>>40550455
Tonight I'm the one graduating from Hololive. Kek I'm watching 2 hobbyist channels that produce covers and occasionally in a blue moon livestreams. Content is sparse but closer to what I identify with than this identity crisis corporation that's neither idol nor streamer.

>> No.40550822

>>40550455
Why? Being a 3 digit streamer in one of the most successful internet media companies is punishment enough

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40550881

>>40550455
KFP are on the case

>> No.40550903

>>40535528
why did they have to ban JP overlap anyway? it's like banning eating meat in Japan because today is the national vegan day in America

>> No.40550971

>>40550903
We'll serve SHIT and you will like it.

>> No.40551073

>>40548245
here's the thing, Cover never officially acknowledged audience overlap outside adding translated subtitles to main channel content.

Any other talent content with translation is out of their good will (polden, girigiriwata etc.) but company doesn't mandate it.
This means company did not interfere with cross-continent content, but now they are effectively demanding to prioritize it, makes one question can talents start demanding subtitles to their content then?

hell, having your anniversary or birthday live fully translated would definitely increase vod views and make more ad revenue

>> No.40551083

>>40550455
I hope you graduate from life.

>> No.40551151

>>40550971
EN management told JP management that Tempus would have mogged Luxiem numbers if there was no stream overlap and the absolute fucktards believed it.

>> No.40552525

>>40545936
>Gotta consider that HoloEN audiences have been starving the last few months so they might take literally anything.
There was a reddit screenshot that went up in one of the threads (maybe /#/) where someone commented that people should stop complaining about Tempus and just watch other corpos instead if they really care about females that much. It got a decent number of upvotes and I’m sure that user didn’t get banned (because they’re right).
Nice going, T-chan. Management let that comment stay up, either because they believe Hololive viewers really won’t migrate to other corpos out of frustration (bullshit, I’m one of them, and I *watched* Tempus), or they got stuck in a trap and realized that punishing that redditor would be hypocrisy because it’s the only valid conclusion to this whole thing they’re pushing (“HoloPro is HoloPro, there’s no difference between debuting males and debuting females.”)

>> No.40552743

>>40546011
>shit, corpo unity is at an all time low
>EN is reclining because they don’t even feel like they’re included in corpo-wide events
>we need to remind EN and JP audiences that everyone’s in the same company
>I know, let’s remind JP that EN exists by banning streams during EN debuts!
>And let’s make the next eight of those debuts males
Yagoo used to work at Dentsu (I think).
Whatever company it is, it was an advertising firm that emphasized brand recognition. This is meant to reinforce brand identity. Unfortunately he (or whatever retard floated this idea) doesn’t realize that in vtubing, gender matters more than branding. Most viewers would easily prefer a Niji female to a Stars male because *of course* they would. I don’t even hate Tempus, I just want to make sure only to support corpos who accept this basic fact. The corpo in question can have males if they want, they just need to know that people who watch males prefer males, and people who watch females prefer females, and they don’t just watch the other gender just because you take away their preferred options.

>> No.40552970

>>40552743
>Most viewers would easily prefer a Niji female to a Stars male because *of course* they would
Well that's simply untrue. According to Holofags, they would rather let a horse stomp on their dick than watching Niji.

>> No.40553133

>>40552970
No that's literally true.

>> No.40553171

>>40552970
thats simply because there are more options at the time, i.e not watching either. If i ONLY had the choice of Homostar and Niji girl i would choose the Niji girl.

>> No.40553361

>>40552970
You taking console wars shitposts too seriously. Watched lots of lulu back in the day.

>> No.40553407

Now that they are diluting the fuck out of the brand what's even the point of being a brand warrior anymore.

>> No.40553441

>>40552970
hahaha....

>> No.40554134

>Holostars and hololive are different groups
>But don't you fucking dare streaming over the new guys
>Even if there's no fucking way your fans will overlap
It's extremely funny how they have managed to screw up the new guys so much. I even feel bad for them.

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40554939

>>40536327
>be yagoo
>become successful by promoting female power
>western capital turns on vtubing, twitter algorithms rigged to not show holos trending also funds and allows ninjisanji to bot to make everyone eunuchs like it do with everything else
>censored and outgunned
>he cucks
many such cases

>> No.40554988

>>40553407
There was never a point. Tribalfaggotry was always gay.

>> No.40555078

>>40542050
That's not an opinion that's a question you fucking retard

>> No.40555191

>>40552970
Nice try, redditor. Anons here only hate Niji BECAUSE it has males and mixed gens. If Hololive is forcing cross-gender unity that basically makes them the same as Nijisanji. And Nijisanji has so many members that there’s never a night where there aren’t any streams on.
The one thing keeping anons from watching Nijisanji is gone. Gender matters more than corpo. If you genuinely don’t understand this then you’re in a rare minority.
Besides, I was actually talking about JP viewers, not EN. But yes, I wouldn’t be surprised if a decent number of EN viewers jump ship. God knows all the small corpos have been inclining while HoloEN keeps bleeding viewers. Now HoloJP viewers are getting that tiny thought in the back of their mind that maybe Cover is trying to do the same to their branch. Nice going, Yagoo.

>> No.40555234

>>40555191
How new are you? Do you think NijiEN came out the door with Luxiem already a part of them?

>> No.40556138

>>40555191
Well Niji still talks about shit and cum all the time and mocks the audience with NTR jokes and is more openly political in a progressive way. Small difference but it could be enough to keep some people in Hololive.

>> No.40556275

>>40535975
My rrats is that stars are damned a failure, but they can't find a proper closing so they are discretly trying to create enought anti and trouble due to them to have a good reason to graduate them all for all branches. This way they will never have to recruit males ever again.

>> No.40556400

>>40554939
Reasonable theory. The main platforms will never ever allow anime grills to trend.

>> No.40556666

>>40536327
I think Cover just wants their male branch to succeed too.
They would do better if they were merged with the girls but that would also hurt the girls and their fans and it could ruin their business because it would put them one equal footing to their rival.
I think out of respect for the girls and their fans and out of ethics they should never merge holostars with hololive, so all they can do to help holostars is just give them as much support as they can.

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40556729

>>40535991
The thing you retards don't get is that this isn't le omegay or EN at all, I watch the orange homo for this reason because hes Kiara 2.0 and spills the beans, this whole Tempus shit is HoloJPs upper management, same reason Tempus had a slow start because JP management wanted them to play debuff shit like Apex nonstop, people blame EN but this is all on JP you really think some EN managers would have the pull to ban JP Holo members from streaming? Cmon they didn't do that for Tempus 1.

>> No.40556837

>>40556729
The measure didn't exist back then, it's a company wide rule they recently adopted.
Tempus2 is the first group to be affected by it.
Perhaps they will remove it after this backlash which would be funny because it would make Tempus2 the only group that benefited from it.
Otherwise we'll have to wait until their next gen to see it in effect again.

>> No.40556948

>>40556837
The rule isn't bad it just makes it simpler for everyone, but people are looking to get angry at anything they can right now

>> No.40556963

>>40535528
The japanese vtubing industry is just too sterile. You'll never get breakout male streamers like on twitch when they have to walk on eggshells over everything. From collabing with girls to bd-mouthing a game they had to get permission for, they will always have a chain around their neck no matter how good they are.

>> No.40557040

>>40556963
>The japanese vtubing industry is just too sterile.
This

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40557102

>>40556837
The first group to be affected by it was actually Uproar, since it aplies to 3D debuts as well.
It didn't work there as well.

>> No.40557345

>>40555234
The reason anons hated Niji before Luxiem aren’t the same as the reason most anons hate them now. This board was created as a HoloEN containment zone before NijiEN existed, so there’s always been a pro-Holo bias. But that was over two years ago. Lots of anons came in well after that and don’t even know why /vt/ was separated from /jp/. Most anons nowadays hate NijiEN for completely different reasons that aren’t just blind tribalfaggotry.
So yes, I’m sure plenty of anons still hate NijiEN for no reason other than tribalism, but A.) it’s not like that anymore, and B.) pretty sure even some of those anons would consider leaving because this recent nonsense is completely making Hololive unrecognizable.

>> No.40557408

>>40557345
nijis entire schtick was always about mixed genders what schizo time loops are you on you faggot
everyone new luxiem was only a matter of time

>> No.40557448

>>40556948
>The rule isn't bad
You are an actual fucking room temp iq mongoloid if you think this.

>> No.40557480

>>40556963
>>40557040
it's ironic that the only people that talk about things being sterile have to spend 30 minutes sterilizing their buttholes before gay sex.

>> No.40557522

>>40556948
It's a very extreme rule, it affects all 3 regions and the two different agencies.
It also affects all debuts, 3D events and skin debuts.
There are already over 70 talents.
Fans and talents have streams they look forward and schedules they want to follow.
I don't think anyone from the Hololive JP fanbase will bother watching the Tempus debuts.
Effectively they just fucked their streams for no reason.
That's actually bad and quite stupid.
Limiting the streams from the HoloEN might at least lead to some extra views because the Hololive English audience might have some people who would watch Holostars English. They're still within the same region even though they're different types of content.
But no one from HoloEN was streaming anyway. So the rule had 0 positive effect, nothing was actually accomplished by it.
Let me just reiterate this so the point is clear: This rule had 0 positive effects.
A rule that does nothing good and only gets in the way is objectively a bad rule.
They seriously expect people to tune in to content that doesn't appeal to them and hell they might not even be able to understand at all just because their favorite Cover streamer couldn't stream at that time.
It's patronizingly manipulative and outright disrespectful to their viewers to treat them that way.
They should just let it be a voluntary thing. The streamers who expect their audience to be interested in a debut can put their streams on hold if they want to.
There would be nothing wrong with that. I'm sure most of the HoloEN girls would have stopped streaming today for the guys, if they actually streamed.

>> No.40557534

>>40557480
You seem quite knowledgeable about gay sex anon.

>> No.40557661

>>40557522
There's not that many debuts in a year; it's a non-issue.

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40557734

>>40535528
kek
Imagine blocking your golden geese from creating content because a bunch of beggars are streaming.

>> No.40558046

>>40557408
Uh, no? They tried to be Hololive, first 10 NijiEN were all girls but Holofags hate all those girls because rainbow bad blue dorito good. When the 'become Hololive' plan failed they just went ahead and debut Luxiem.

>> No.40558078

>>40557534
your dad told me about it before I took your mom out for a nice dinner

>> No.40558077

>>40557408
3 girls only gens in a row let a lot of people feel at home in NijiEN with 0 guys around for half a year.
I don't know if you were here when it happened but when the NijiEN males debuted there was a period of time where the initial NijiEN fanbase went through multiple purges.
A sort of multiple stages process.
At first the realization that the guys were there, with some coping that perhaps it wouldn't always be guys and girls 100% of the time.
Then it became clear the guys would always be there. Even on solo streams they'd call the girls on discord when they do zatsu or they'd join as wingmen for solo play streams.
It was a test, many fans could not tolerate the guys and just left over time.
Every now and then something new would happen that would test more fans.
Like the time Finana and Pomu hyped up their first off collab but they surprised everyone with a guys.
Or the flirting between Reimu and Vox. More recently the whole thing between Enna and Kyou.
Who knows how many of the original NijiEn fans are still left unfiltered but initially it was a lot.

>> No.40558152

>>40557661
People that wanted to watch JPs had an issue with it. If cover had ENs that streamed regularly during NA prime time (as it would if it weren't deranged) it would be an issue for them too. Cover really needs to stop shitting on its core demo to push these homos.

>> No.40558168

>>40557661
It's an issue right now tho.
And it will be an issue again with any new debut or 3D debut or skin debut.
Being a problem only few times a year doesn't make it not a problem.
There's still no gain from it.

>> No.40558264

>>40557734
You're talking about a company that ditched two literal golden geese like it was nothing.

>> No.40558411

>>40558264
>like it was nothing
Really?

>> No.40558430

>>40558168
Treating everyone in the same company equally isn't necessarily bad even if it doesn't produce any numerical gain when it's a StarsEN debut

>> No.40558696

>>40558264
ummm retard spotted
those two things are competely different

>> No.40558905

>>40558430
What the fuck are you even trying to say.
There's no benefit here because no one went to watch them just because their oshi couldn't stream.
The rule is stupid and cannot justify itself.
It sounds like you're just saying well suck it up everyone has to be treated equally for no real reason.
Would you also say that about the janitor at cover's office or the receptionist? All the office staff should also stop what they're doing and stop working because a vtuber is having a debut?
Rules are either supposed to make sense and have some practical benefit or they're arbitrary bullshit that just gets in the way.
The goal of this rule is to have more eyes on the debuts, it's not accomplishing that. So it's a stupid rule.

>> No.40558972

>>40558905
They never stated what the goal of the rule is

>> No.40559026

>>40558430
They shouldn't be treated equally as they are not equal; It's disrespectful to the main hololive audience demographic to pretend otherwise.

>> No.40559070

>>40559026
Send that in a letter to Cover

>> No.40559091

>>40558972
Well, if they goal was to create antis, then yes they succeed

>> No.40559124

>>40558696
not really, it just means Cover is willing to compromise their one day income from established members to promote debuts of their newest toys, also it's literally one fucking day, and i bet my arm, if new jp or en girl gen debuted and the rule of "not streaming over debut" wasn't in action, you would bitch about the members streaming over it.

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>>40558077
As a former Holofag, Niji is in a pretty good place for people who just want cute girls doing cute things right now. The constant onslaught of collabs has died down, a lot of the more obnoxious characters have been filtered out and are excluded from places they were previously able to force themselves into, and there are plenty of girls you can watch doing their own thing without some lisping faggot providing commentary. I'll admit the Luxiem landing DID force me out for a while, but the dark age is over.

>> No.40559150

>>40558972
Do you need everything stated to you so you can make sense of it?

>> No.40559325

>>40559136
I want as close to 0 homo collabs as possible and for that reason I won't watch niji. They all do at least one a week.

>> No.40559384

>>40559136
How many times per stream they talk about cum, shit, piss, periods, etc. these days?

>> No.40559388

>>40559136
yeah they dialed down at least

>> No.40559426

>>40559124
it means covers is reinvesting its revenues/profits in a manner that actually makes it worse (even if you want to argue it is only marginally worse) for the customers responsible for generating said revenue/profits.

>> No.40559447

>>40539932
>Hololive fans are supposed to like everyone in Holopro
Most Hololive fans won't go as far as hating Holostars, but they certainly don't give a shit about them
But that indifference might change to dislike if management keeps forcing HoloStars to Hololive's fans

>> No.40559480

>>40559136
>chinksanji
gross, 1view or even fucking vshojo is better

>> No.40559528

>>40559136
Interesting. I wonder how many more like you are out there.
NijiEN provided a decent HoloEN alternative for a while so it actually got a good deal of its audience from them.
The filtering led many of those fans back to HoloEN but HoloEN has stagnated really hard and didn't release gen3 at all.
Now HoloEN has its Tempus problem and hearing that NijiEN has evolved to be more tolerable makes me wonder how they stack up now.
There must be many fans that have bounced between HoloEN to NijiEN and back and forth.

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40559589

>>40559325
Kneel.

>>40559384
You're thinking of Enna, who is a repulsive whore that no self-respecting man would ever watch.
Pomu does say she needs to pee instead of taking an idol meeting.

>> No.40559591

>>40559384
almost zero unless you watch someone like enna i think

>> No.40559682

>>40559589
>>40559591
Nice try. I don't believe you, Nijishill.

>> No.40559686

>>40545215
Bootlickerchama, are you lost?

>> No.40559702

>>40559589
who is the one with the dango?

>> No.40559763

>>40559682
>I don't believe you, Nijishill.
good i don't want /NijiEn/ to be more schizo infested anyway

>> No.40559785

>>40559528
NTA but despite the incessant shitposting in this place, the reality is that you jump between HoloEN and NijiEN depending on how shit the current status is unless you just take the indie/small corpo pill

>> No.40559874

>>40539932
>Why the fuck not? Hololive fans are supposed to like everyone in Holopro
Like omega? since when are coca cola consumers supposed to like diet coke? to be fair I don't care about the stream restriction on debuts and 3Ds, I'm more pissed about how some of the EN girls aren't streaming at all since months and it probably has something to do with this and the tranny management

>> No.40559898
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40559898

>>40537478
>no steaming over debuts or 3D debuts is a rule made by Hololive JP
>blames Holopro EN
Huh?

>> No.40559949

>>40559874
It has to do with them being lazy whores

>> No.40560010

>>40559898
whoever is responsible for the current changes should sepuku themselves immediately; i don't particularly care who that is.

>> No.40560031

>>40559702
L*ca Kaneshiro.

>>40559785
Tribalism and unity are two sides of the same coin. You should watch who you want without obsessing over whether they're Holo, indie or Niji.

>> No.40560074

>>40559898
>no steaming over debuts or 3D debuts is a rule made by Yagoo
FTFY

>> No.40560082

>>40559949
Is there proof of that? if not then I will assume malice from management, as long as there is not an official statement or hard evidence I'm free to believe any rrat I want to.

>> No.40560093

>>40537900
>You either support faggots or lazy boring whores
The absolute state of HoloEN kek, so glad I took the small corpo pill

>> No.40560152

>>40560031
I thought so. Not really appealing to a holo viewer there.

>> No.40560174

>>40535975
To graduate all the female EN branch and just go as an EN male idol vtuber company + move Irys and Kiara to the main branch.

>> No.40560178

>>40559528
So, from what we’ve seen, it seems like Yagoo’s convinced that only being known for females has put a ceiling on Hololive’s growth, even though Nijisanji being known as “manjisanji” shows that even including both genders ends up favoring one over the other. He probably thinks that Council being underwhelming is proof that there’s a ceiling on EN vtubing’s growth, even though small corpos and NijiEN have been inclining.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the complacency and lack of streams and stagnation is making him think working on StarsEN is a better strategy in the long run than debuting EN3, even if pushing EN3 back would hurt the brand “in the short term.”
Except again, everybody else is doing fine. Sure, we could blame the girls, but we also know about all the bullshit they go through. As much as not giving a shit and phoning it in (see: Ina, Gura) is maddening, the one constant throughout all of this retardation has been EN management.
If Yagoo really wants to remove the ceiling to HoloEN’s growth, he needs to get rid of the jackasses in management who are responsible for all the retarded moves that drain the girls’ motivation and ruin anything even remotely exciting about the branch.
Or don’t. I’m fine watching phase connect.

>> No.40560185

>>40560082
A wise man once said it's foolish to ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.

>> No.40560247

>>40560152
I get it, five streams a week is too much for a HoloEN fan.

>> No.40560612

>>40559136
Given how they have a history of males showing up unannounced in streams, I will never feel comfortable with watching them. Sorry.

>> No.40560667

>>40560178
The EN problem isn't the ceiling - the ceiling is fucking huge, as seen at the height of Gura/Myth. So if Cover is on some kind of single minded mission to increase the ceiling while simultaneously destroying their ability to ever actually reach a tenth of it, that would be a very strange strategy.

>> No.40560770

>>40560612
i hate that too... youre vibing with pomu and selen and suddenly 3 dudes join the call and ruin the mood

>> No.40560895

>>40560247
I not really a holofan at this point but I don't want dicks shoved in my face.

>> No.40561064

>>40550455
stop doing anything malicious, nigger. Doing something bad to them will only strengthen Cover support, they are already 3view (4view in a good day)

>> No.40561288

>>40550455
no i want EN whores to implode

>> No.40561362

>>40560667
That’s what I’m saying. They seem to think there is a ceiling when there isn’t, because for some reason debuting more girls hasn’t helped. I think it’s partially because they made a bunch of bad hires for Council, but mostly because of shitty management decisions.

>> No.40561477
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40561477

>>40559136
I'm actually grateful to Myth for how much they dropped the ball, because I ended up watching a random Pomu stream just because I didn't have anything else to watch and I never looked back. This hardworking fairy is everything that holoEN should have been and more.

>> No.40561488

>>40559447
This is me. I can mostly ignore tempus. I even liked some of the collabs at first. I think most people were generally apathetic. But, now its becoming clearer that the girls are actively being held back because of them - the subreddit being locked for 24h, as an example - expect more backlash.

>> No.40561540

>>40560178
I agree and I've been saying it a lot.
Cover's EN management side of things is horrible, quite literally one of the worst managements out there.
They got the international branch of the biggest corpo of a budding new industry and they have failed in every way.
The girls not wanting to stream can even be at least partially traced back to management itself.
Cover's biggest fuckup at the moment is not replacing them as soon as they could.
Like you mention Gura, but you know she hasn't been given game permissions, they have held back on her projects, they have rejected her ideas, they have put a lot of pressure on her and have mocked her internally and demoralized her.
EN management is an abusive pimp that is making all of its girls hate working.

>> No.40561679

>>40559447
>But that indifference might change to dislike if management keeps forcing HoloStars to Hololive's fans
Yeah. Happened to me. Year ago I couldn't care less about them. Nowadays I fucking hate them.

>> No.40561914

>>40545215
you sound mad

>> No.40561950

>>40559447
>>40561679
>>40561488
all me

>> No.40562003

>>40561540
>Cover's biggest fuckup at the moment is not replacing them as soon as they could.
They won't. Cover is a japanese company, they literally don't understand the west or their demands, and they put their absolute trust on their EN branch. If the EN management says everything is OK, then everything is OK. If they have disappointed numbers and Tempus2 underperforms, then it's the market's fault.

The only thing that would get them to move their asses is a big scandal.

>> No.40562450

>>40535528
It's like forcing the whole company to stop working just because new employees arrived. Holo will crumble at this rate as more female member pissed off

>> No.40562605

>>40535528
I love the way you cry, sweaty

>> No.40562707

>>40559070
Not being ironic, this needs to be done for any grievance.
Being serious. As IRyS mentioned angry customer feedback is what got her 2.0 this century.

>> No.40563204

Fuck this. I'm just gonna check out kiki at this point. Let's see if being a champy is viable for me

>> No.40563417

>>40563204
>Watching the girl who faked falling from her chair during a stream and lied about injuring her spine and having to go to the hospital when it was leaked she was underage and had a boyfriend
Have at least some self respect, anon.

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40563782

>>40560093
>took the small corpo pill
He says yet he still bitching about thing that has nothing to do with his le precious small corpo. Who are you trying to fool here man?

>> No.40563944

>>40562707
I wonder if /vt/ alone could pull this off.. Hmm..

>> No.40565637

>>40535528
Will they learn from their mistake?

>> No.40565644

>>40563944
If enough letters were sent in En and translated to JP too, yeah.

>> No.40566020

>>40549262
the no overlap rule is an austounding success no doubt

>> No.40566574

>>40561477
Question:
What is with those stretchable black hands?

>> No.40568513
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40568513

>>40566574
She is technically a fairy, but she has been incorporating new stuff to her lore and she eventually became some kind of eldritch being who has taken over the world and is forcefully transforming everyone in replicas of herself. The hands were just a quick drawing shitpost that ended up becoming a manifestation of her powers.

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40568917

>>40568513
Her lore streams are always awesome, I can't wait for the next one

>> No.40569117

The seethe from trannies in this thread is hilarious

>> No.40569970

>>40561540
>The girls not wanting to stream can even be at least partially traced back to management itself.
>EN management is an abusive pimp that is making all of its girls hate working.
The girls are not innocent in all this.
>Sana
>Ina pissed off to do non-Holo stuff and said nothing to her fans for months
>Gura's declining streaming frequency started this time last year, if not earlier
>a solid half of EN never puts out a schedule anymore, doing streams whenever they feel like it, if tummy hort and cat & dog hort and back hort and roommate hort don't get in the way
Fuck EN management for pushing the homos on fans, rather than let people watch what they want.
Fuck EN management for skipping EN3 when the branch needed a lifeline so bad it became a fucking twitter meme.
Fuck EN management for making projects such a pain, that Studio Ame had to exist, that Kiara had to pay out of pocket in fucking Dusseldorf, and Gura still can't have a daki.
But fuck anyone left in EN who neglects their fans at this point, it's not like they're getting any more.

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