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40235228 No.40235228 [Reply] [Original]

>already getting more members
kek what a flop

>> No.40238725

I doubt its a new gen, the holostars already got their dose of new gen last year.

>> No.40243240

>>40235228
What kind of logic is that? Why would they get more members if Tempus wasn't a success? See Niji, they straight up get rid of side branches that aren't doing well.

>> No.40244378

>>40235228
nepotism hires
when they pick trash over real talent u get this shit.

>> No.40245232

>>40244378
but enough about council

>> No.40245311 [DELETED] 

I liked the nijisisters vs tempissfags arc, let's make it that way again

>> No.40245898

>>40235228
ACCELERATE.

>> No.40246124

>>40243240
>What kind of logic is that?
Cover was probably expecting Tempus to do big numbers just like the Niji males did. But not only did they do low numbers they also drove viewers away from Holo EN across the board. They've never hired new talent this quickly and it can only mean they're trying to salvage the train wreck that is Tempus.

>> No.40246134

They need 5 members to play league.
No females are willing to play with them.

>> No.40246161

>new members will dilute their viewership even harder, making the flop even worse
Cover with their brilliant management once again.

>> No.40247896

>>40246134
no wonder fauna ignores them, it's not because they're male but because they're filthy lol players

>> No.40248110

>>40246124
no idea how that is supposed to salvage anything. All it does is to spread the already slim stars fanbase even thinner.

>> No.40248171

>>40235228
The absolute state of cover, I'm a kawaii Chad now

>> No.40248185

>>40246124
How would that salvage anything? If anything that would just accelerate this train wreck.

>> No.40248209

>>40246161
Didn't one of the uproar dudes have like 167ccv the other day? Yeah that's Tempus' future if they dilute the viewers out.

>> No.40248211

>>40247896
Fauna played league more than anyone in EN before joining holo.

>> No.40248219

>>40238725
Bro they desperately need another starsen gen for collab purposes after the holoincel went nut on them

>> No.40248287
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40248287

I'm going to laugh at every single one of you retards when it only turns out to be outfit/mascot announcements.

>> No.40248323

>>40248211
fauna is a chad dota player

>> No.40248383

>>40235228
Honestly it's a good thing. Isn't the point for them not to collab with the women?

>> No.40248426

>>40248383
In that vein yes this would be an excellent argument if the only way to stop the nijisanjification of EN would be to have enough males for them to do whatever group projects they want.. but I rather doubt Cover is that pragmatic and any new dudes would just be passed around all the girls again.

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>>40235228
>ghosted everyone just so she could say 'I told you so' when everything in EN crumbles
>then migrates to holoJP

>> No.40251543

>>40246124
That doesn't make any sense. You don't make something that's purportedly failing into a success story by adding one more person into the already purportedly failing framework.
You fix what's broken (current members, not the case here), you help with their success (again this applies to current members), and you let things that don't work out run to its natural conclusion (this happened to 2 hololive members who incidentally happen to do pretty well with what they are doing now). Only if there is potential to make things even more successful, you invest and add more people.

>> No.40251765

>>40248209
Don't compare TEMPUS to UPROAR.
UPROAR's numbers have always been "low".

>> No.40251849

>>40235228
more members more kino content, I like their comfy audience they're not as cancerous as dumb cunts like you.

>> No.40251893

>>40246124
you're actually stupid you know that?

>> No.40251975

>>40248219
They have the entire holostars JP branch to collab with and girl collabs didn't even help their numbers. In fact their numbers went down after the girl collabs. Whether this is because of girl collabs or because their debut buff wore off is debatable.
ID1 was a 3 person gen for way longer than they were and they didn't need new gens just to stay relevant.

>> No.40252140

>>40251975
>In fact their numbers went down after the girl collabs.
>Still around their usual viewership of low 3views
uhh?

>> No.40252395

>>40247896
All of the boys follow her on Twitter. She has not done the reverse yet. This scenario is unique among the HoloEN talents. She at least has talked to them offstream enough to get them to follow her in the first place.

>> No.40252500

>>40248870
>migrates to holoJP
kek

>> No.40252543

>>40252140
Low 3 views? They hover around 1.2k to 1.7 views, 2k for magni and vesper and 800 to 900 on debuff games. That's not low 3 views. These were the numbers the nijien girls minus 3 to 5k views selen were getting before luxiem showed up and unironically helped boost the girls numbers.
Problem for tempus is that they'll probably have the problem nijien girls where having where new waves were just thinning out the audience instead of expanding it. What they would need is a gen that actually brings in more people instead of spreading them thin.

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>>40235228
ID just announced new years kimonos for the entire branch. I expect this announcement to be the same because they'd be the only people in the entire company with no kimonos (ignoring Irys).

>> No.40252664

>>40248870
YWNBAJ Gura

>> No.40252759

>>40252572
>(ignoring Irys).
as is tradition

>> No.40253098

>>40252395
Retardchama, Fauna follows all the homos on twitter.....

>> No.40253385

>>40252543
Vesper is more 3k to 7k fwiw

>> No.40253453

>>40252543
it's more of the fact if they overlap one another then the splitting of viewers happens but the boys don't seem fazed about their numbers thinning down since they knew what they signed up for but still went through with it

>> No.40253565

>>40251975
>They have the entire holostars JP branch to collab with
No matter how many times you niggers repeat this, the vast majority of viewers does not find a collab where the two people cant really communicate fun outside of it being a novelty once every blue moon.

And yes, I know that Axel can speak Japanese. But guess what? His audience cant.

>> No.40253615

>>40253453
Thankfully they have the unity to raid into each other rather than overlap.

>> No.40253726

>>40235228
>the gen is doing so bad they're introducing more members to this failed project
So this is unicorn brainrot

>> No.40253746

>>40253098
This, not just tempus but all of jp stars as well. On top of that holoen discord is shared by all of holoen talents. Just because they don't interact on screen doesn't mean they don't talk off screen

>> No.40253757

I can't tell if this is a shitpost or people here really believe that they're a flop

>> No.40253809

>>40246124
>They've never hired new talent this quickly
Oh no no dont look at starsjp first year

>> No.40253817

My money is on it being the fifth member.
Cover seems to prefer launching in fives.
Outside of ID, China and STARS you get this consistent pattern of gens launching in fives. EN continued this with both Myth and Council launching with five. And when Sana left they rolled Irys into Council to bring it back up to five.

So my money is on Tempus originally being slated for five members.
But something happened causing one member to be unable to debut. Either because he was physically unable (injury?) or because he was kicked out.
So this will be that fifth members debut.

>> No.40253840

>>40253757
they're just ignorant of the vtuber industry outside of the big names like holo and niji.

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>>40253565
>the vast majority of viewers does not find a collab where the two people cant really communicate fun
Whatever you say, homobeggar.

>> No.40253905

>>40253817
>causing one member to be unable to debut
is-is gura the fifth tempus member?

>> No.40253910

anything you can get women to spend money on is not a flop

>> No.40253967

>>40253881
>once in a blue moon
Case in point

>> No.40254012

>>40253967
Just admit you don't want JP collabs because you want the branch to turn into nijisanji EN 2.0 while destroying hololive in the process.

>> No.40254048

>>40235228
>getting new members fast
THEY NEED NEW BLOOD TO KEEP BEING RELEVANT
WHAT A FLOP
>not getting new members fast
NOT EVEN GONNA GET NEW BLOOD, HIGHER UPS GAVE UP ON THEM
WHAT A FLOP

It's so tiring.

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>>40254012
>you want the branch to turn into nijisanji EN 2.0 while destroying hololive in the process

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>>40253817
Lookin over the gens further.
There's only been two instances outside of Tempus where a gen has deliberately launched with 4.
It's always been 3, 5 or in one case 6.
Gamers and Uproar. Both of which are considered "distinct" from the other generations by management as the subsequent gen numbers don't take them into account in the case of Gamers and this distinction has been explicitly stated in the case of Uproar.

Now one could say Tempus is the same here. But we already know that EN management isn't doing gen numbers and instead has each gen identified with its own name (Myth, Council, Tempus) and for any doubters this was explicitly stated multiple times during the launch of Council.
So Tempus isn't distinct exempting it from the typical rule of 3 or 5.
Meaning. The 5th member memes may be true.

>> No.40255409

>>40254348
By the way, Uproar was originally only supposed to have 3 members (first there were 3 silhouettes), only then they suddenly added a fourth silhouette Uyu

>> No.40255427

>>40246161
As well as push more people to small corpo.

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>>40235228

>> No.40255618

Luxiem is literally the only male vtuber gen that’s more successful than Tempus and that’s thanks purely to the power of chinks. Tempus is by FAR the most successful stars Gen in its company. You can hate tempus all you want, but they aren’t failures by any reasonable measure.

>> No.40255730

>>40255618
still lose to luxiem

>> No.40255789

Auditions for more holostars started right after Tempus debuted so more of them is inevitable. If this announcement really is the next gen than Cover is going at Nijisanji pace (for males, at least).

>> No.40256254

>>40255730
Which is still a massive success when you consider that Cover’s other Stars gens get mogged by freaking Iluna lol.

>> No.40256262

>>40255409
So this avoidance of 4 seems to be a pretty strong habit that Cover has. It takes something big to push them to ignore it.
Does 4 mean something in Japan? Many cultures attribute certain meanings to specific numbers.

>> No.40256350

>>40256262
4 reads as Shi, it means death, and yes it's consideren an unlucky number.

>> No.40256461

>>40256254
>comparing to iluna
thats not really massive success then, call me when they beat vox akuma

>> No.40256523

>>40256350
Well that makes sense.
So Uproar got an extra member likely because they wanted to snap up this one guy before someone else did.
Gamers got stuck with 4 maybe because of someone backing out before debut or because they didn't want to wait before debuting one of the picks and run the risk of her going elsewhere.

So Tempus. Did they not want to lose someone to a rival or did they lose someone before debut?

>> No.40256623

>>40254048
Oh yeah, because you dumb beggars aren't spamming "quality over quantity" ad nauseam in every thread talking about HoloLIVE EN3.

>> No.40256700

>>40254348
There were 2 cases of 6 members, which were both the first gens for HoloJP and StarsJP, and Gamers only debuted 3 new members with Fubuki attached to it. Uproar and Tempus were the only gens to debut with 4 members.

>> No.40256708

>>40255618
This shows most EN vtuber fans have no interest in males which is not a reason to introduce more. The small audience just spreads itself thin. Regis and Axel have already been in 3view and struggle to hit 2k, another gen will make it worse. Hell that's likely what's going on with nijien too.

>> No.40256761

>>40248383
Every bit of effort being put into a new StarsEN debut is effort not being put into HoloEN3. In that vein, this is absolutely a bad move. Because if Cover had the resources for this not to take time and energy away from the female half of the branch, they would have debuted EN3 already.
I’m increasingly convinced that all these moves are planned out months in advance and they don’t have the ability to change course, even though they really should. God knows how badly an EN3 will do whenever they finally debut.

>> No.40256789

>>40246124
They talked about the expectations which was low 3view AT BEST.

>> No.40256839

>>40256700
Haha so my analysis is even more correct.
Cover really does avoid 4 like the plague.

>> No.40256888

>>40256789
The members or management? Because I can definitely see the former, but if the latter expected the same then why the fuck did they they spent early 2022 trying to shill the StarsEN auditions so fucking hard and not debut EN3 this year? It makes negative sense for them to be prepared for low viewership but still dedicate an entire year to a new sub branch and pretty much ignore what was once their biggest group and still one of the biggest in the west.

>> No.40256949

They already found the replacements this quickly? wasn't the announcement for tryouts just a few weeks ago? what mid famous youtuber and soft spoken Asian American did they find so quickly.

>> No.40256978

>>40256888
Because EN3 will not bring in many new viewers.
Cover is a business. Expand or die. In their case expansion means expansion into new markets not expanding the quantity of the exact same product you have in the exact same market.

What is EN3 gonna do differently to EN1 & 2?
Sweet fuck all.

>> No.40257045

>>40256978
cover scouting talent need to come back, audition and nepotism need to go

>> No.40257191

>>40256978
>What is EN3 gonna do differently to EN1 & 2?
HoloEU. I'm telling you, it would be fucking gold.

>> No.40257258

>>40235228
>already getting more members
What a success!

>> No.40257301

>>40256978
I swear to god beggars are genuinely one of the most stupid creatures in this mental asylum, and that's saying a lot. The only part I agree with EN3 not bringing fuck all is that if Cover hired the same type of people they've been hiring for EN, and that 100% includes Tempus. Other than fucking streaming the 4 guys are practically a mirror to Council, being a group composed of white Americans/Asian-Canadians/Asian-Aussies, and content wise they're not much different either with Vesper being the only unique member from them. If Cover actually does their work and hire a diverse (as in people with different goals and interests, not the woke meaning of the word) group of EN3 you can be they'll be way bigger than Tempus, but I guess you're so cock hungry that you're incapable of thinking that a female gen would do better than a male one.

>> No.40257316

>>40256978
>What is EN3 gonna do differently to EN1 & 2?
Stream, hopefully

>> No.40257322

>>40246124
They can collab with HoloID just fine and Myth was in a WORSE position for 8 months but with 1 extra member but no
-nijis
-twitch collabs
Fuck off with this shit

>> No.40257341

>>40257301
>Other than fucking streaming
your argument hinges on how they aren't all that different except they do their jobs? That's a pretty significant difference.

>> No.40257378

Cover intends to pair up a homostar with every EN girl kek

>> No.40257420

>>40235228
>Getting more members means its a flop
>holoEN gained more members
Ah, so we agree HoloEN is a flop then.

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>>40257191
Could be good.
But Cover seems to regard Europe as "dead air" with limited potential revenue. They don't even like it when Kiara does German content or streams in her own timezone, at least based on her streaming habits.

>>40257045
Cover has only scouted in a handful of cases.
Realistically anyone they're likely to notice in the English speaking world is going to be more than capable of monetising themselves and making a decent amount independently with none of the restrictions or drawbacks to being managed by Cover.

>>40257301
Oh you are actually 100% right here on the type of people front.
But you have to remember that Cover is only willing to hire specific kinds of people in certain parts of the world.
So a diverse group with different goals and interests? 100% never happening with Cover. It's not how they operate.
So when you get EN3 they will basically be interchangeable with EN1 and EN2. And you will slurp it all up and simp.

>> No.40257659

>>40257443
>And you will slurp it all up and simp
>when I'm complaining about this shit
Weird burn but ok. And I know that Cover likes an specific kind of hire, they fucking did it on two of their EN gens. The entire argument is based on EN3 not bringing anything new while Tempus and StarsEN being this untapped well of possible new costumers when we're seeing Tempus doing fuck all different from the previous EN gens and performing worse, even if they actually do their jobs of actually streaming. If StarsEN ends up being Tempus 2 they'll actually reach 3view territory, and then I want to see the same people sucking Cover's cock for doing it trying to explain why it's happening.

>> No.40257831

>>40248185
>>40248110
>>40251543
If I was in charge of StarsEN I would push for another gen even if they're doing shit numbers. Here's the thing, new gens are going to come that's a given, even ID get new gens and 3D so those will happen for StarsEN doesn't matter how shit they do.
The difference here is how quick the new Gen is going to come out which is pretty weird for anything Holo/Cover.

But like I said if I was in charge I would actually do what they're doing right now. Why? Because I think StarsEN really need a bigger ecosystem, mixed collabs clearly didn't work and most of Tempus don't speak JP and their audiences certainly don't. So right now they feel pretty isolated, same kinda thing happened with Myth BUT they had massive success and audiences at the beginning so management had enough time to really shop around new candidates. StarsEN don't have this luxury, their audiences will keep going down unless something big happens like a new Gen and this will also create more internal collabs, groups, etc. So yeah, I can see why this looks like a weird idea but they honestly don't have many other options.

>> No.40257903

>>40257420
you're not the sharpest tool in the shed are you?

>> No.40258147

I hope we get another former IT aspie like Vesper, he got me to actually watch male vtubers and only guys with his vibe really interest me

>> No.40258262

>>40257301
I believe vesper already almost capped the ceiling for a not fujo male vtuber for the west.
You can't really broVtuber better than that.

And if a sub1k ccv is ok, then just shit out 30 en girls, they will easy pass it just by spreading to cover all timelots.

>> No.40258309

>>40235228
>Another rent free thread
yawn.

>> No.40258343

>>40246124
>Drove away viewers
But enough about the EN girls who dont stream.

>> No.40258697

>>40258262
>And if a sub1k ccv is ok, then just shit out 30 en girls, they will easy pass it just by spreading to cover all timelots.
That's the gist of the argument pro StarsEN/anti-EN3. If Tempus is so successful with what they god, and StarsJP had always been 3views outside one or two members and still got stuff like 3D models and two concerts, then why not debut more HoloLIVE EN gens? Cover doesn't care about low numbers anyway so even if they end up worse than Council they will still be considered a good investment, and there's no way they will perform worse than Tempus.

>> No.40258740

>>40258697
More girls will just add more drama when it becomes apparent that they dont stream either.

>> No.40258813

>>40258740
>drama
Yeah, what's the last time an official HoloPro twitter came out defending one of their talents ass and publicly suspended an EN member? Granted, the first one was related to a HoloEN member, but we all know the context here, right?

>> No.40258837

>>40258813
Means very little because we fucking hate EN management too.

>> No.40258886

>>40258837
Well, true, but Tempus wasn't drama free, and I guarantee you if StarsEN2 debuts before EN3 you'll see some real drama.

>> No.40258891

>>40258262
Eh, the whole Kronii saga kinda soured me in the whole brotuber thing. Kinda like when you have a guy friend for years but suddenly he gets a gf and his behavior, likes and shit changes. To me brotubers should be somewhat asexual, I mean thirsting about girls is part of being a bro but once one of the bros gets the girl things change.

>> No.40259138

>>40258891
what universe are you living in where Kronii and Vesper are dating? Sounds like a you issue with not getting your cuckold fetish in control.

>> No.40259247

>>40259138
Obviously they're not dating but ignoring their sexual and romantic tension is big cope. On the context of chubbas that level of flirting and chemistry is analogous to dating.

>> No.40259282

>>40258891
Just look at anime.
Slice of life comedies nearly always got a full fermale cast.
And if you put males in, then you get a romcom, ALWAYS.

But a full male anime are mostly action/drama stuff, you can't make a roleplay goku vtuber doing halo.
BroVtuber are pointless, tempus is a failed experiment to check if a west "normal" streamer but anime avatar can work the mainstream.

>> No.40259351

>>40258262
A lot of anons categorize the following for brotuber
>No pandering to women
>Doing things akin to let's plays
>While no pandering to women, being horny for them is ok
With these 3 things, Altare ticks the first two and Axel ticks all 3.
No, Axel screaming in nip language saying he'll kill the boss during ringfit is not meant to pander to women.
If you count Altare's voice as pandering to women then I guess he only has Let's plays to his name.

>> No.40259500

>>40259282
Speaking of Goku, anything related to romance in DBZ was always a drag. I mean just look at what happened to Vegeta once he got with Bulma lmao. I just want to see guys beat each other up, if I want romance I go watch romcoms like you said.

>> No.40259508

>>40259247
unironically take your meds

>> No.40259547

>>40259247
>ignoring their sexual and romantic tension is big cope
Nigger you are talking about an almost 40 year old virgin, literally a certified vintage autistic sperg who can't look a woman in the eye

>> No.40259571

>>40259282
If you get any anime, you will always have it shilling the female lead who takes control of the narrative.
Meanwhile everyone will melt down over the male protagonist because he is male.
At this point, shitty rom coms where the female lead is bullying the male lead is literally the worst thing to happen to anime. All that it accomplishes is make it wholly apparent that the female is the true mary sue self insert and the male is there just to be the whipping boy and butt of the joke.

>> No.40259696

>>40259547
You can project all you want but ships don't come out of thin hair, they clearly had chemistry. Just like ZetAxel, although those two are in another level they might as well be official now.

>> No.40259764

>>40259696
ships do come out of thin air, some of the Tempus members get shipped with girls they barely talked to nigger.

>> No.40259785

>>40259696
Someone didn't watch Zeta being NTR'd live by a female gorilla.
Hell even Zeta watched it live.
>Handfeeding his female manager a cream covered strawberry and making his manager say "ahhh' while Zeta watches

>> No.40259857

>>40259696
I believe the cope that Kronii has something of an attraction towards him, but Vesper? definitely not. Dude talks more about Magni's ass every stream than anything, i'd be surprised if he was straight.

>> No.40259931

>>40259785
Axel is a slutty himbo, all that does is turn on Zeta even more.

>> No.40259974

>>40259931
>Women like being cucked
Huh? The inner workings of a woman's mind remain a mystery.

>> No.40260015

>>40259857
Sure and Marine, Matsuri and Kiara are lesbians.

>> No.40260016

>>40259547
I assume most Jokeronii shippers are shitposters or people that have never seen a lesbian woman/gay man friendship before kek

>> No.40260111

>>40259974
Yea can you imagine if men got off to cuck shit ahah like imagine if NTR porn was super popular on the internet crazy right ahah can you imagine

>> No.40260144

>>40259571
Dude, 2/3 of anime is the self insert average dude with a harem to pick from, the hell are you talking about
Tsundere girl beating you is a damn fetish, not feminism lol.

I mean, you can check the anime chart for this season: https://www.livechart.me/winter-2023/tv

A million fantasy, mostly male self insert + harem.
Even a "lol i became a small dog and 3 hotties fight over me".
And then 3 yuri (the male fanservice stuff) and 4 fujo homoidol.

You also have a almost all male dumb comedy slice of life with the vampire parody, but how do you "vtuber" that?

>> No.40260162

>>40259974
>>40259974
Uh... yes? Cuckquean is a pretty common fetish. In fact most women are more turned on by the idea of fmf threesomes which some could argue is lite cuckoldry

>> No.40260313

>>40260162
I grew up in the real world where women were ready to kill their cheating boyfriend, the woman involved, and then themselves.
Not to porn where they masturbate and then join in.

>> No.40260368

>>40246124
>it can only mean
Alright, pack it up guys. No need to think anything else, anon already decided.

>> No.40260428

Fat ugly women like watching other women expressing attraction to the men they are actually interested in. It makes them feel validated and they can self-insert as the attractive female whose desire is itself desirable instead of gross and embarrassing.

>> No.40260550

>>40260144
There is no self insert. It's a myth made up as a cope from people who go around screaming.
>IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME!
>NOT HIM!
>IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!!
And also illiterate fucks who think that a book being written in first person point of view means that character is literally them.
Despite what you may say, the book that i read from a cats first person point of view does not make me a cat.

>> No.40260602

>>40260144
It's only a harem if there is sex with 3+ women. If that requirement is not met then its not a harem.
Sorry. Not sorry.

>> No.40260641

>>40235228
It's not a new debut, since Kronii is ovelapping them.

>> No.40260660

>>40235228
Sad really. Got into Tempus real quick when they debuted but now, I practically only watch Vesper. Axel and Altare didn't interest me at all even until now and although I watched Maglord in the first three months or so, I just lost in touch. He seemed less entertaining every time he streams which could just be a me problem. Or he seems just out of it a few times.

>> No.40260666

>>40235228
Male stars just don't feel right imo.

>> No.40260726

>>40260660
Magni is pretty much only entertaining during "special" streams. His Christmas karaoke/radio show thing was great but his regular gameplay/chatting streams aren't very good.

>> No.40260742

>>40260641
The only time Cover announced a new gen and quickly debuted it was Holox, so if today ends up being about StarsEN2 it will be only an announcement with the debut dates.

>> No.40260927

>>40260726
And Vesper is the exact opposite. His normal streams are comfy and nostalgic boomercore, but in collabs he's quiet and doesn't offer much.

>> No.40261168

>>40260927
It's so weird VespAme hasn't happened yet they're literally the same fr fr no cap

>> No.40261210

>>40260927
They should fuse and become the ultimate tempiss prime

>> No.40261696

>>40261210
It's more likely that a Magni/Vesper fusion ends up shitty on both solo and collab streams.

>> No.40261960

>>40261696
That's just Altare

>> No.40261987

>>40260742
This is what I believe too.

>> No.40262204

>>40261960
Altare in collabs has always been great though?
Literally look at the first one where he's actually being a leader and proppng up the quiet ones to have a turn and talk.

>> No.40262326

>>40261168
Ame has savvy business sense and understands how many unicorns will start pissing themselves and crying if she dares even look at a man on stream.
So she settles for getting gang banged off stream.

>> No.40262708

>>40262204
>any criticism of a homo
>umm he’s actually great though?
you tell him sister

>> No.40263281

>>40262326
You're thinking of Fauna. Ame talks and collabs with the guys all the time.

>> No.40263357

>>40262708
>Criticism involves something to critique
>There was no critique involved
Try harder, nijinigger.

>> No.40266452

>>40251975
These kind of posts being so prevalent proves /vt/ is one of the stupider boards

>> No.40266474

>>40235228
Proof ?

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