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40156517 No.40156517 [Reply] [Original]

>big corpos reject parasocialism
>small corpos incline
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be

>> No.40156554

>look /vt/ I posted it again!

>> No.40156588

How nijiEN and holoEN never managed to copy true & tested qualities from jp is beyond me

>> No.40156643

All streamers are parasocial. HTH

>> No.40156654

>>40156517
She will correct HoloID and their Homo begging ways

>> No.40156667

>>40156517
still not going to watch her mr shill

>> No.40156818

>successfully women act classily
>desperate women act whorishly

>> No.40156863

>>40156588
Because of normalfags.

Among the kind of people who existed on /jp/ back in 2015 when vtubing was a handful of people with dogshit models, 'waifuism' would have been very popular.

Without getting into too much detail, the Western popularity derives from red dit bandwagoner normalfag losers who are here purely because they're in a 'group' worship these companies, they don't enjoy anything japanese but this was trending and they got caught up in the hype. ASMR is 'creepy japanese stuff', /jp/ might like it but Global doesn't.

>> No.40157354

>>40156863
/jp/ always hated VTubers though. They feel the same way about gacha and idols too btw.

>> No.40157498
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That's pretty much relegated to her karaoke and ASMR streams. Turn out for her gaming streams is a lot lower. ASMR numbers are usually just high in general for many vtubers.

>> No.40157593

>>40156517
>big corpos reject parasocialism
>retain an audience of respectable people in the thousands while shedding off unwanted elements who scare off normies
>small corpos leech off of parasocialism
>get a 2/3view audience that's full of fickle poorfag schizos who will yell death threats at you on Twitter if you accidentally get a discord message from a male on stream

>> No.40157630

>>40157498
6 hours of asmr? who the fuck is that lonely

>> No.40157690

>>40157630
Put on your head phone and sleep to it. She has disabled ads on her channel.

>> No.40157727

>>40157593
N-no normiefying vtubing is actually good! Everything should be as bland, souless and corpocratic as possible! Please keep consuming product.

>> No.40157760

>>40157690
Yeah, "sleeping to shit" is an enormous amount of watches, which is why "autoplay" is such a scam

>> No.40157777 [DELETED] 

>>40157593
>big corpos reject parasocialism
Which corpo is it? I'm sure it's not Njizhangji

>> No.40157823

>>40157727
>actually my oshi is good for desperately scraping up the trash that big corpos are throwing out and living off of their scraps while secretly despising both audience and herself :^)

>> No.40157825

>>40157777
Nor Hororaibu

>> No.40157899

>>40157630
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dKnu6WAmnw&t=3220

>> No.40157933

>>40156863
Nigga, were you even around when vtubing was only allowed on /jp/? Everyone sucked nijisanjis dick then holobronies started getting uppity and it caused a schism between nijis and other chuubas and the waifu experience holo chuubas and even then people were fine with discussing the holostars during dead hours or for their big events. HoloEN is what brought in all the normal fags that turned unicorn and sperged out about jp girls and holostars in general.

>> No.40158085

>>40157593
>normies
>schizos
Leave then you fucking loser.

>> No.40158341

>>40157823
>>40157593
YWNBAW, troon. Go back to twitter and canceling chuubas for saying retard to "own the incels".

>> No.40158449

>>40156517
>3 view is inclining
So what you're saying is that it isn't worth it? Why pander to parasocials for 3 views when you can pander to normal people and make 4 views like Shylily?

>> No.40158657

>>40158449
YWNBAW

>> No.40159370

>>40157593
This

>> No.40159957

>>40157593
>Dishonest Holowhores le good
>Hard working non-Holowhores le bad
Kill yourself Cover shill, you will never, and I mean NEVER, you will work for Cover.

>> No.40161982

>>40156517
Oh, she's like a sexier kronii bootleg.

>> No.40162465

>>40157593
>fickle poorfag schizos
Imagine being this wrong, imagine thinking normalfags member or donate money
Are you living in plato's cave?

>> No.40162561

>>40157823
That's why the HoloEN girls have been on record started complaining about decreasing numbers, right?
It's definitely because they don't care

>> No.40162604

>>40156517
i went there after she cover moona's new og, but i think i forgot to subscribe

>> No.40162676

>>40156863
??? Holoen is the one that brought in all the normal fags to vtubing u retard

>> No.40162678

>>40162465
I'm a normalfag and I've spent 3 figures on vtubers. Schizo NEETs lack spare income.

>> No.40162967

>>40162678
Anon, I spend about around 200-380 every month on vtubers, depending on how many days I take off of work or not to fit into my monthly budget, this is also separate from all the memberships/twitch subs I have
I am a small gachikoi, you are like an ant in comparison to someone like orca

>> No.40162984
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There are two things you guys need to know. Those things have happened EVERYWHERE in media, multiple times, but I'm going to name two specific instances it happened:

>Normal fans, devoted fans
In Japan, when anime was becoming popular, there was a big disconnect between "Otaku" and people who enjoyed anime "normally".
The Otaku did weird things, they were affected by the genre too much. They were into this "moe" thing, too, it was a weird thing for most people. Normals thought that they were being affected too much by the fantasy, and it was possible that they couldn't even tell the difference between reality and fiction.

>Casting a wide net/appealing to a tight audience
As a introduction: Pulp magazines (Or pulp fiction) were inexpensive fiction magazines that were published from 1896 to the late 1950s.
Pulp fiction was the early beneficiary of many new marketing technique, such as:
- market research: what does the audience like, or may like in future?
- market segmentation: how do you identify and capture different sub-markets?
- relationship management: how do you keep and grow an audience?
Pulp writers stopped casting a wide net and trying to appeal to tight audiences. For example, Black Mask magazine began as a general story magazine, running detective, western, adventure and mystery tales. Like many early pulps it tried to cast a wide net to reach as many audiences as possible. That all changed when editor Philip Cody took over in 1924. He deliberately built a strong relationship with his readers, asking them for ideas and feedback to help him shape the magazine to better match their tastes. Black Mask became hard boiled and less focused on a average audience.

I'm sure you already know why I'm saying this. Even in vtubing certain groups of people donate more than the rest of the audience despite being outnumbered seemingly 100 to 1. They're the people who are enjoying vtubing the most after all, so why wouldn't they?
The main thing is that most vtubers want fame over money. Well, I'd argue that while maybe money has no inherent worth, fame has even less.

>> No.40163369

>>40157593
>all this seething in the (You)s
holy based

>> No.40163659

>>40163369
It's blatantly wrong, the corpo's don't want to lose anyone to the point that they are constantly bending backwards in both Nijisanji and Hololive to force vacations on any talent that upsets even one retard on twitter
And obsessive gachikoi literally donate blood to give money to their GFE vtubers every month

>> No.40163823

>>40157593
>poorfag
tell that to Nene

>> No.40164066

>>40159957
embarrassing

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>>40157593
>8 of the top 10 superchat earners in hololive are gachikoi pandering unicorn girls
>the bottom 10 are all homo's and homocollabers for normalfags
>the bottom 10 combined barely even equal the 10th spot in the top spot
Where do you people come from, what fucking planet do you live on to be this misinformed

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>>40156517
Is picrel what small corpo parasocialism looks like? Or is it just like this for the Oceashells? kek

>> No.40164705

>>40157630
She streams for 3 hours, then runs a looping asmr for people to fall asleep to

>> No.40164827

>>40164258
honestly this is one of the things ive been arguing, GFE and more idol like vtubers objectively make more money than variety gaming streamers solely because of unicorns.

since unicorns have the need to spend money on their oshis to validate their pathetic lifes, at the higher risk that single yab could destroy your audience/carrer, meanwhile other kind of vtubers pander to normiefags that have other stuff going in ther lifes and have a lower incentive to spend money on them

>> No.40165147

>>40164827
No matter how many yabs kson has had, her gachikoi have never left her
Most of the westerners that used to follow her stopped, and it's why she doesn't do too many english streams anymore, but none of them were her gachikoi, they were her normalfag audience

>> No.40165288

>>40156517
desu only the most desperate and low quality males must watch that shit

>> No.40165957

>>40165288
Where do you think you are?

>> No.40166047

>>40165288
if you're not a desperate and low quality male you should be driven out of this hobby and all others like it, and I truly mean that. the world's open again, go back to fucking club sluts in the bathroom instead of shitting up things that aren't for you. overdose on synthetic drugs like the other cool kids. do literally anything that shortens your lifespan dramatically

>> No.40166614

>>40164258
Thank you anon

>> No.40167542

>>40157593
>>40164258
Not to mention Luxiem is unabashedly "parasocial" and that's what make NIJEN its money too. Women being solipsistic and rarely penalized for being retards ensures more low garbage takes though.

>> No.40167613

Is an anti making these threads? If not why would some "fan" be making threads attacking the audience that this vtuber shares?

>> No.40167689

>>40167613
Has been for days now. You can tell by the Apple device filename. He should probably tell his Discord group to stop posting from their iPhones.

>> No.40173289

Tried watching her and she was pretty bland. I prefer the Amiya method

>> No.40175255

>>40156517
>trying to flex a huge ASMR boost
now show us her Tuesday night regular stream numbers

what next? you gonna start flexing anniversary/milestone special occasions ccv?

>> No.40175278

>>40156517
>parasocialism
Must you use it the same way Twitter and Reddit do?

>> No.40180755

>>40156517
whore
>>40157593
some kawaii girls get more donos than holoEN

>> No.40182733

>>40156517
wanna segggs her

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>>40157630
ME

>> No.40182965

>>40162561
If they don't want declining numbers then they should fucking stream. Like holy shit, just press the on button.

>> No.40183068

>>40156517
Have you ever heard of luxiem???

>> No.40183094

>>40164258
Now imagine how much money Kiara would make, if she did ASMR...

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