/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Meanwhile, at Idol Corp...
https://twitter.com/AvielBasin/status/1609640300464721920

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>>40095043
Based, still not watching your jewtubers tho

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>>40095043
Good.

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>>40095043
At this point people just make these questions for "sabotage" reasons

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>>40095043
He's alright for a kike.

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>>40095043
the most based part is him actively shutting down the whiny male vtubers in the replies and quote tweets

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>>40095204
>at this point
At all points

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>>40095043
Is always "let my males in your corpo to farm some fans using the girls" and never "me and these males will start a corpo together from zero"

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>>40095204
someone literally replied pretending to be a fan that is now leaving but then just straight up admits he just fucking heard about idolcorp from this tweet
these faggots don't even try to hide it, they are not viewers or fans they are grifters that want everyone to conform
Aviel blocked him too which is hilarious

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>>40095043
Dangerously based

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ISRAEL IS /VT/'S GREATEST ALLY

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>>40095043
Now post the one where he says that men are fine as long as they are playing female characters.

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>>40095043
Now hire women without boyfriends too

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>>40095043
Fucking Based.

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>>40095043
>Jewish company will say anything to get you to throw money at them

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>>40095595
something that will never happen
that's simply him trying to be politically correct

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>>40095043
Almost all active groups are girls-only and nobody except niji mixes genders. Stop shilling your jewtubers or I will stop watching your EN streamers.

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>>40095423
>"me and these males will start a corpo together from zero"

Is there even a male only vtuber corp? Cause if not these guys are just lazy as fuck and just want to leech off of the girls.

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>>40095833
if there is there's a reason no one has heard of or cares about it

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>>40095692
I'll side with whoever delivers the highest quality cunny. It's that simple.

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>>40095868
well then you're already in the wrong place

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>>40095868
>I'll side with whoever delivers the highest quality cunny. It's that simple.
What are, "Things Politicians Say" for 1000, Alex.

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>>40095043
DESU any male wanting to join a female only group is someone that is unable to read the room.

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>>40095043
Thank you Tempus for being such a shitshow that you made an entirely unrelated corp rethink their plans.

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>>40095833
All guys in chuuba sphere are disgusting groomers with hopes of getting to fuck the girls

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>>40095043
based
I love Israel and the Jews

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>>40095692
Yeah, if only HoloEN did the same instead of listening to twitter retards who don't watch streams.

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>>40095043
No blue dorrito
Not interested

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>>40096205
This but unironically. Though I do respect the hustle from the jewtubers. If only they'd graduate and go to Holo would I be able to watch them

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>>40096205
Thats okay anon, to each their own.
Enjoy the tempus offcollab!

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>>40096009
What is wrong with these people? Why do they always want to invade female only space. Every time any corp has auditions they keep asking about male auditions like they are unable to take a hint.

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>>40095043
Very anodyne statement. He doesn't say there will never be males in Idol, just that there's no plans for it right now, which is not surprising because the company is still finding its feet.

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>>40096205
I used to be blue dorito only. I had my oshi so I didn't have a reason to branch out to others. Then she turned into a lazy lying whore so I abandoned her and my choices were to either find someone else or quit chuubas altogether. Chuubas were my first time watching any streamers

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>>40096418
You lost, go back.

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>>40095043
God i wish Hololive stayed like this

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>>40096418
>there are no plans for male characters
>idol will feature female VTuber characters only, because we prefer to focus on one Target Audience that we are familiar with, this is our right and choice as a business
lmao cope harder

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>>40095833
Girls don't want two views, they only like what's popular.

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>>40095043
more like Aviel BASED

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>>40095043
Fuck off Aviel, you Jewish faggot. No one cares about the idol corp with them all sucking jew cocks.

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>>40096056
Based. Living the dream.

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>>40095043
BASED

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meanwhile in kawaii https://youtu.be/jOHWXU3mH0w?t=6268

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It will never not be funny to see the responses to this from the unity beggers; its either "male vtubers are an untapped market that you should promote" or "male vtubers are a booming side of the industry that you should get in on," Its the same shit when Homobeggers talk about the boys: "oh Cover doesn't advertise them enough", meanwhile they get fucking shilled by Cover along with the girls all the time. Maybe most people just don't give a fuck about male vtubers outside of crazy neet women, and its not some conspiracy about male vtubers being "underappreciated" or some shit

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>>40095043
that's pretty cool unfortunately he is jewish so I still won't watch a greedy fuck and his chuubas

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>>40096489
Yagoo likes to experiment

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>>40100736
>greedy
they are the most giving corpo in the market

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Not surprising that the people against this are fucking troons. This is what happens when you allow normies and shit into the medium, they just infest the entire thing with wanting to force this type of stuff.

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>>40096009
Well of course they're Jews. Kikes don't see potential all they see is what's popular and milk it until the trend dies.

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>>40100534
the one in the middle is in collabs with dudes all the time, I bet the "group collab only" clause was made literally for her because she's the only one I see do it there

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>>40101150
>in a time where male vtubers and their models are hugely popular
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>40095833
homostars proves male idols can't succeed without gender mixed leeching, just look at how long they struggled for

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>>40101393
The potential to flop so hard that it kills an entire branch, yeah.
Based Aviel dodging this shit.

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>>40103503
>The potential to flop so hard that it kills an entire branch
literally all they have to do is not do worse than than the hebrew speakers lmao

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>>40101530
yeah makes you wonder why they even need to beg a random corpo.

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based, lets hope he doesnt change his mind

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Rin saying something like about being totally open to collabing with dudes only to unfollow tempus after the stream (tempus collabs only really bothering the retards here) really shows the mentality of the company, like half of them are probably /here/ shilling shit

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>posisitions

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>>40105173
she unfollowed them? that's funny

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I love jews now?

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>>40095043
who

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>>40095043
I wish them success and distinction. If they continue to be the same after several years, they deserve the title "Love Live of Vtuber" that hololive was thought to be.

Fuck you FAGOO

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>>40105173
There isn't a huge amount of leeching to be had with tempus anyway. idol girls regularly hit 500 viewers, so it'd need to be fagni or vesperv to have any potential upside

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>>40109827
One of the nijiEN fags was in Juna's chat an hour ago, he got completely ignored kek.

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BASED
It's absolutely hilarious that Tempus shit show somehow stopped idol from having a male branch.
Pay attention, people say that complaining online doesn't accomplish anything but look how clearly they are wrong.
All the trolling and shitposting and drama and shit flinging actually changed the course of history.

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>>40110933
Anons from vt really think this is somehow caused by them?( Also why do you people bring up tempus when nobody mentions them?)

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>>40109880
Is it alban again?

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Just when I thought I couldn't love idol more than I already do! Ah, the sweet smell of homo tears.

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>>40111397
>had plans early on but changed them over the course of the same year that had Tempus debut
Too much of a coincidence to be just a coincidence.

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>>40111397
Are you trying to say that Tempus isn't relevant to a conversation about male vtubers? Because I sure hope you aren't that retarded.

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>>40095043
I can't believe it, I'm siding with a fucking kike in 2023.

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>>40095043
>the JEWS are against homoniggers
What timeline is this????

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Rin is a boy

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>>40112354
Tempus is only relevant in a negative aspect. StarsJP and NijiJP males are more relevant in the grand scheme of things. Tempus' mistake was not saying "no" to the girls when they went full collabspam mode. If not for that and they waited at least 6 months to collab with any EN, it would have been received way better. Cover are retards and always will be. Now when Tempus is brought up it's usually for shitposting or begging reasons more than anything else.

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>>40113364
How are JP branches more relevant than the EN branches when we're having a conversation about EN vtubers? Deluded.

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>>40111397
I think /vt/ merely reflects the state of the industry, and allows people to see what fans truly think even if they wouldn't admit it somewhere else.

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>>40095868
you are in the wrong company then.

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You'd have to be a fucking idiot to have males in your company. The door to establishing your company and its brand is wide open, since Hololive and Nijisanji are now effectively the same. The three small corpos - IdolEN, Phase and kawaii have an unique opportunity to save vtubing by going the strict CGDCT route, and by doing so differentiating themselves from the fallen competition. Neither of the three companies will end up dominating the market, but they have immense room for growth and becoming a kind of Triumvirate. Maletubers can only exist when they leech off of female chuuba's, or in the case of Nijisanji when the whole company is just some kind of weird spam of everything. In both cases you're stuck with literal whos with no views, no revenue and drama up the ass. Pun intended. The raw incompetence of Cover and HoloEN in particular was shown when they mistook a limited audience - Chinese fujoshi - for being inexhaustible, coupled with the arrogance of HoloEN's out of touch management and certain chuuba's who bought into the mindset and their existing audience wants males.

IdolEN's numbers and views will continue to incline as Hololive continues to destroy itself, and the same is true for the other two small corpos. This is both inevitable and very welcome, and it'll result in authentic Western vtubing culture which will be close to the actual standard of CGDCT Hololive once adhered to. Each of these three will have their own distinct feel and culture, which will result in a lively and authentic scene in steady though not adversarial competition. For instance, Yuko and Pippa are friends, and they collabed a few days ago. It was a great collab, funny as hell, and it introduced Yuko to people on my side who didn't know her or how funny she is.

Let it be remembered for all times - Tempus killed Hololive. And I feel fine.

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>>40113612
>/vt/ is mad at something
>Just a complete coincidence that thousands of viewers are leaving and their supas are collapsing
I never knew that a few dozen autist held this much power. Truly it could not be a reflection of the entire industry.

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>>40113907
All tempus did was rip off the mask that was on the holoEN branch and exposed it for what it is.

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>>40095833
there was one at least in JP side but its already dead before second half of 2022
forgot the company name but one of the dudes that appears when i'm browsing holotools had only like 20+ viewers
i feel male only corpos are ngmi both JP and EN unless they do it vspo style or become gigolos for chinese aunties

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>>40111397
Aviel and idol corp have been aware of /vt/ since their first generation debuted.
Even back when they were 30 views a lot of their audience came from /vt/ and their thread had some of the most sensible constructive criticism towards the company.
Aviel actually responded in timely fashion to many of the points raised by the thread and it helped idol improve the quality of their content.
So I can say with confidence that they would be aware of any of the trending topics or happenings here.

Tempus is obviously a factor here because that was the biggest backlash male vtubers have ever had. Before NijiEN male vtubers weren't something most people were even aware of, NijiEN debuted them and they did well with a very specific audience but as a whole NijiEN's audience was small and male-female integration is a core part of their company.
Of course there were fans of NijIEN that didn't like it when the males arrived, even to this day there are NijiEN fans who hate having the males around. But this never grew to be a big backlash in part because NijiEN's audience is smaller but also because a lot of the fans are ok with it, it's really the norm for the company so people who had a problem were just told to quit bitching and get used to it or leave.

Tempus was a completely different story. Hololive IS a girls company. The fanbase is there for that. The fans have a right to that and they know it. So when Tempus arrived and the girls were constantly collabing with them there was a real backlash and it wasn't just limited to /vt/, this topic was a controversy in any place where vtubers are freely discussed.
This shit led to Hololive English Productions doing damage control and cope posts on twitter very notable drama and massive shifts in numbers.

If Aviel planned to have males before Tempus seeing the massive backlash reaction Hololive got would surely convince him to take a step back from it.
Here's a catch, I think Aviel might still want to capitalize on the male vtuber market. But he will be wise about it and won't have an idol male gen, he might just create an entirely new company for male vtubers and keep them separate from each other.

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>>40114290
Hololive Production English management is absolute fucking cancer. They're bad for business and just bleeding Cover money, they're bad for the talents and driving them into constant hiatus and they're leaving us with no content to watch.
Shit at getting permissions, shit at offering support for any project, shit at giving the talents approval for anything fun, actually giving the talents shit when they try to do something on their own.

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>>40115085
Its just beyond me how some corporations have such a struggle to understand how people just want to see cute girls doing cute things

[Anonymous No.]

Where the maro link so I can spam it with questions about their illegal occupation of Palestine

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>>40113612
This, people from Reddit, twitter, discord or YouTube comments visit /vt/ at least once to say what they really think even if they don't like to admit it, I have lost count how many times I have seen people from outside of /here/ talking or sharing information that shows up in /vt/ first but do their best to be "overly positive" about everything

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>>40116391
People bitch about containment breaking twitter accounts that tweet screenshots of vt a lot but the truth is that those tweets are the only way some opinions can be shared or supported on the outside world.
People can't call X vtuber a lazy whore on twitter or discord or reddit. But they can post a link to a tweet with a screencap of someone saying it or at least like the posts.
The vtuber community is made of simps who want to have their oshis attention, or want to integrate themselves into various communities, no one wants to be negative or say something that is critical.

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>>40111397
>Anons from vt really think this is somehow caused by them?
Anon, it was basically /vt/ that caused Magni and Vesper be the breakout stars of Tempus due to the memes created from here. Outside of here it was looking like Altare and Axel would be the ones to do well.

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>>40118802
I found it hilarious because I saw it happen in real time in here and all the vtuber discords I'm in and on twitter.
The magni shilling was specially funny. To think it all began with that picture of HELLOW MELANATED FELLOWS and it somehow snowballed into a cult of magging being born in here. It took a while and it eventually spilled outside too.

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Jack will be happy

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>>40095595
There are laws about that shit. So everyone has to pretend that all jobs are open to all sexes to avoid getting sued.

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>>40119427
I work in talent management and I can tell you for a fact that it is not illegal for an agency to seek female talents for a female presenting role. The only reason agencies do this is to keep the woketards appeased. Anti-sexism laws only apply if gender is a non-crucial part of the role.

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Fwiw if anyone in Idol had Vesper's numbers they'd be considered a success.

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>>40115085
Not sure you can say there was a massive backlash. I think to a man everyone in Tempus would say they are doing far better than they expected. And outside of VT, they're pretty well supported. Especially Vesper and Magni. There's a reason hololive is doing more male audtions and nijiEN keeps hiring males. Fujos are better bang for the buck than the average chumbud

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>>40120208
/vt/ was on fire for several weeks, half the catalog was either people hating on the collabs or baiting people about it.
Overall outside VT the english vtuber community is incapable of saying anything negative about any vtuber directly.
Everyone belongs to a social circle or clique or tries to be part of an integrated fandom and no one wants to pick a fight with anyone else.
That's why people come here whenever they want to say something that isn't blatant shameless simping.
English Holo fans questioning why 90% of their branch is on break get immediately met by disapproval from their peers.
Also Hololive official twitter and reddit accounts blocked people that were critical of the collabs, even the tamest "I don't like this" got people blocked.
The impact of the backlash is still there you see it on numbers declining and Cover's counter measures to it.
Fujo money exists but the gold rush is over, Nijisanji got the first move and they won.
There's far less Fujos than there are guys watching vtubers.
I do think Aviel will eventually want to explore the male vtuber market but he will do it in a safe way that does not jeopardize the success of the company he already has. Hololive did this halfway with Holostars, separating the male spinoff to its own branch. But a much superior alternative is to straight up have a completely separate company for the males.
idol HE wasn't a big success but it led them to idol EN which has done amazing so far. So they're willing to invest and push themselves into a market even if they don't succeed immediately.

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>>40116391
All you really need to do is realise that a disproportionate amount of people are overly scared of confrontation so just go with the crowd on everything to avoid any for of "conflict", even if it means lying constantly to be "nice".

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why are they always gaslighting

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>>40121931
Just a few QRT, though. There are positive replies that support him. So, just hope his answer doesn't blow up and let those folks in QRT barking.

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>>40095043
Isn't this the corpo that one of the girls was lusting after some guy in NijiEN? Or am I confusing this one with Project kawaii or Phase connect?

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>>40122337
Yeah your thinking of Kawaii. In fact a bunch of NijiEN guys have tried posting on the IdolEN chat but are barely acknowledged by them.

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Ok maybe there are good jews out there. I'll now watch your stuff, Aviel, and dream getting kreplach flavored leprechaun kisses.

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>>40096385
>female only space
I didn't know Aviel was a female. Same with fishman. Seems like the men just want all the women for themselves so keep other men away from the company.

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>>40095043
will it stay that way?

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>>40095043
https://twitter.com/AvielBasin/status/1609683291996622848
What's the reason for plan change I wonder.

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>>40125765
Aviel is loyal to numbers, so as long as males that aren't Vox continue to under perform and act as an all around debuff for all the girls around them, it should. Also helps that he doesn't really have patience for the homobeggar gaslighting.

That said, this all doesn't rule out collabs with men outside of Idol, but if anyone wants to kamikaze their own numbers then that's on them.

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>>40095204
>at this point
It's an all out war out there

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>>40126173
I would kill for these companies to be run by robber barons instead of moral busy bodies.

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>>40111581
Yes, he has the most subs of his gen but much lower ccv as he's a boring sexpest that puts on a persona

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>>40095868
she looks like a little boy

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>>40126794
ToT

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>>40125824
Nice, I will double my support and membership all the girls now

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>>40096009
>doesn't know that male vtubers existed even before Tempus
>seething rent free faggot

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>>40101011
I've already had my fair share of jews, no thanks

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>>40101393
>NOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU DO PROPER BUSINESS, REEEEE
RUMAO

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>>40101530
I agree, even if you like Tempus the models are like weird cardboard cutouts.

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>>40095043
I'm doing my part

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>>40095833
There isn't which is baffling that no one takes advantage of the opportunity. A male-only corpo that doesn't let in females would be insanely popular.

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>>40126173
The fact he blocked one is giga based lol

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>>40127222
anon.. you could've just had a smaller membership fee please tell me you're not that desperate, holy fuck

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>>40127390
it's not because I think she's my wife (she is) it's because I have faith in idol.
I have also donated >400USD in addition

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>>40115085
>he will be wise about it and won't have an idol male gen, he might just create an entirely new company for male vtubers and keep them separate from each other.
This would be the best course of action. Aviel if you are /here/ and want to capitalize on the male vtuber market, best decision is to make a completely different company that doesn't interact with the female one. I would fully support it.

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>>40127492
>faith in the jew corp
Yes yes good goy

[Anonymous No.]

Can't wait for the tranny prince to collab with Mori
Let's see if the jews will still be so smug

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>>40128027
Mori is not a man you fucking RETARD

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>>40127030
I agree. I watched Vesper on occasion and he's all right. But the models are absolute shit, he may as well be a PNGtuber.

As for Jewcorp, that reply is based and a positive influence in the industry, but it will not make me want to watch them.

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>>40127492
hope I don't see you on the street

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>>40127931
I suffer no delusions about who I support anon.
what Aviel and his actions demonstrate that he truly puts the talents first. from the cost of some of ENs rigs being 15k+ to him going out of his way to redebut the Hebrew talent which barely get 40-60 viewers. This endeavor is a passion project clearly.
what's lost in the "no males" statement isn't that he just saw tempus flop but also the girls themselves have been openly anti-male vtuber on stream, even the "not unicorn friendly" ones respect the professionalism. it may just be pandering in the end, but as it stands they are walking the walk.
Look at the list of equipment provided for the next round of auditions, this is what Cover and Niji should have been doing YEARS ago. If HoloEN got 1/10th the treatment the IdolEN girls get from their corpo I wouldn't be here watching IdolEN in the first place.
I donated before he had even publicly stated that any idea for a male branch was shitcanned.

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Watch as they debut males when they got money and numbers

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>>40113907
I agree with your analysis except for this:
>Maletubers can only exist when they leech off of female chuuba's
Wrong. Vox and others proved that there is a huge, untapped female market, and not just in China. I think with the right approach a corpo could make billions. But not with a mixed gender group that flirt with each other ala Friends. That will alienate both genders.

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>>40128291
>he truly puts the talents first
That's why they've already had 2 graduations, right? If it's so perfect, why did they leave?

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>>40128549
Emi literally fixed herself and stopped being a Neet. We saved her.
Neo on the other hand is still strange. Might be some law fuckery that doesn't allow her to be an Idol HE streamer outside of the country because of sponsors.

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>>40128549
Well dramachama, Neo is leaving the country of Israel (running theory is to get married, but whatever it is just narratives in the end) and won't be able to stream.
Emi left because she wanted to pursue her dreams because vtubing saved her from ending up a hikkineet.
as far as anything has been said there's still an open door for them to return.

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>>40095043
so there is still hope in this god forgotten world.
Now I need to find some JP company with the same principles

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>>40126948
>had plans for males in early 2022
>2022 happened
>no longer had plans
Gee I wonder if it's possible that something happened this year regarding male vtubers that changed his plans? Nah no way clearly he didn't know males existed before

[Anonymous No.]

>>40126985
A yid running a chuuba corp is one thing. A yid running a govt or multinational bank is another. More Jews need to run delis and not weaken nations.

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>>40128549
Yes, that's exactly why. But of course you're going to ignore any explanation for why they graduated and instead insist they got fired for underperforming or some other headcanon aren't you

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>>40095868
rye is a good entertainer but she's a bad singer

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>>40120208
>Fujos are better bang for the buck than the average chumbud
Obvious bait is obvious. You can't not mention Gura, right? Also what fujo bucks? Wasn't Tempus supposed to appeal to a male-oriented market? Because none of them are really appealing to the fujo audience, and they're not doing much for the yume front either. Not to mention their models are not what either audience wants, so I still don't know why do you think this is a relevant argument for Tempus.

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>>40115085
>even to this day there are NijiEN fans who hate having the males around
True. I like Pomu and Kotoka, for example (a truly epic weeb hag and a funny, stinky gamer hafu) but I don't watch them very often because I dislike having the men always snooping around them, like dogs in heat sniffing butts. If NijiEN's core audience likes that, good for them I guess?

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>>40113907
For all the bitching this board does about males, male collabs, HoloEN and NijiEN, you fags sure don't seem to actually support CGDCT at all, as demonstrated by the three small corpos' complete lack of viewers. Where is the mighty horde of /vt/fags in Kawaii? Probably hatewatching Kronii so you can shitpost about her later. The small corpos will never reach relevancy status because clearly whatever they're doing is not what the people want.

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>>40129527
I for one put my money where my mouth is

[Anonymous No.]

>>40129527
That's because 90% of all posts whining about anything in here don't really have an opinion about it and are only whining for the attention and the outrage.

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>>40128549
Seems only holobronies think graduation = termination
I wonder why

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>>40129527
>whatever they're doing is not what the people want
And what do you think people want if those SMALLER agencies aren't reaching Holo or Niji numbers with barely a year in the market? Do I need to remind you that Hololive used to be as big as those companies back in the day?

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>>40128291
Yuko said Aviel might pay for her plane ticket to visit Pippa for an off collab

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>>40129527
Most people just stick to what's popular and with what they know. Either from convenience or for from the validation they get from what they like being popular. Look at McDonald's. It is by far the highest grossing fast food chain, but it's also far from the best. WoW is also a pretty good example of this for MMO's.

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>>40129527
Idol, Phase Connect and Kawaii have seen nothing but incline this year so idk what you think you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40129217
Look at the superchat numbers per viewer with tempus vs the girls. Both Stars and StarsJP have very loyal rich audiences. They can have a 4k stream where every person in chat is membered. And the membership tiers are crazy. There's more passion/money in the small tempus fan base comparitively than a lot of the EN girls.

And then outside of hololive you have Luxiem and Vox. Vox makes niji a ton of money.

There's a better market for English speaking male vtubers than for a Japanese one. 2 years ago no one thought a male vtuber could do what Vox has done. Let alone Vesper.

That said it makes sense for idol corp to stay out of this market right now because they are scooping up old hololive unicorns and can't afford to piss them off. But it's not because there's not a market there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130072
>this year
In the last 2 days? We'll see how they are a year from now after more and more vtubers pop up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130218
You know damn well I meant last year. It's been 2 days gimme a break.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130218
Spergchama...

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130078
Nice fanfic

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130218
Autistchama. . .

[Anonymous No.]

Who is idol Corp again? The jews?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
come home white man

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130078
You . . . you don't even watch the stars, do you? Literally shitposting with redditspacing.
Listen, even i don't want a male idol branch.
If Aviel ever manages to incline to the point where he can think about males as a pet project, he should do this under a completly different company.
>>40130307
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130072
An incline from 200-300CCV? Not exactly something that's gonna be setting a new standard anytime soon, bud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40096009
I don't think it's TEMPUS at fault here. More like most of the English-speaking male Vtubers out there are yabai machines, too menhera or Hornitron 6900.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130078
>There's more passion/money in the small tempus fan base comparitively than a lot of the EN girls.
Some stats would be helpful for your argument here. I do know the Stars audience has a some rich oil barrons, but to affirm that they're doing better than the EN girls, even if comparatively, means you have actual source for that. And you forgot that superchats and memberships aren't the complete story here and ignoring stuff like merch and ad-revenue, the latter obviously dominated by the girls since having a bigger audience means you'll end up having more people watching your stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40129351
I unironically liked Finana and also Pomu and later Rosemi but the guys made me drop the company entirely.
Collab? Guys there, always at least 1. And NijiEN collabs a lot.
Solo streams, there's a chance a guy will join a discord call and now it's a collab with a guy or maybe the girl will have a guy commentate along her for a single player game.
There's no avoiding them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130388
Lets assume for a second that your numbers are correct (they aren't). Do you even realise how large of an incline 150% is? Do you know how many companies would kill for that sort of incline? Whether you like it or not more and more eyes are being drawn to small corpos because large corpos are either proving to be incompetent or no longer providing what their customers want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130387
That's not reddit spacing he's just separating paragraphs.

Redding spacing is doing this.

Spacing different sentences.

For no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130078
>There's a better market for English speaking male vtubers than for a Japanese one.
This needs to be emphasized heavily. People think because JP males aren't doing as well as girls means there's no market for them. An all-male vtuber corpo would work just fine in EN. I support Idol Corp the way it is for all females but if he wants to have a side project where he makes a separate company of all males, I will be there to support it all the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
Idol is saved.
https://files.catbox.moe/po8cyt.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>40129527
I will never support any western or jewish corps, under any circcumstances.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40128027
I will clap my little goy hands so hard for Rin if she got to collab with Mori, or other of the EN gets to collab with holomyth/council.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130840
>drawn to small corpos
Drawn to individual talents maybe. See Pippa. A majority of her fanbase doesn't watch any of the other girls in the company and everyone knows it. They don't give two shits about the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40109880
To be fair his comment was also something you would write to someone you are close to (friendly flirting), so there was nothing for her to acknowledge lest it should seem off to the viewers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40128490
i'm genuinely surprised that i haven't seen some late 20s singaporean entrepreneur with a suspicious amount of money to burn start an all-male company to fill that gaping hole of a niche. with the right talents and marketing it could become the safety net catching any niji fans getting annoyed by the constant micro-yabs and the ever-growing prevalence of hetero collabs and shipping. cast a couple yumebaits, a prime fujo pairing, maybe a polite agreeable brotuber just in case, keep them locked away from all the industry drama, and before you know it you've secured a relatively small but committed fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
Hope the twitter hype for homobegging had died down enough for this to go under the radar. I assume Idol is still too small for the twittertroon 'special' force to really care, since there is no cloud to chase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40096009
>says he wanted to add males, not even hiding it
>retards on /vt/: BASED he is against males
Is this thread infested by jewish shills or something?

[Anonymous No.]

Niggersanji and the Chink government are on very good terms so it was easy for niji to get a huge chink audience
This does not apply to any other corp hence why all the high earning male vtubers are niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>40096385
>Why do groomers want to groom?
Is that really a question?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
>Saw a moderate success with new branch that they went ALL IN on.
>Anons want them to risk the farm on Male Branch

As much as the unicucks prop this up, I’m sure this company doesn’t have the capital to invest in a separate market from their existing base. They’re already stretched thin from the remaining HE talent, and the new EN talent.

It’s up to indie male VTUBERS to show to companies that it would be profitable to invest.
So far Western Male VTUBERS have zero standout talents that would warrant investment.

>What about Luxi-
Sorry, talking about the WEST, not China.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40119785
you do not work in talent management kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>40133670
The ones that "stand out" are too big and wouldn't benefit from going corpo.

[Anonymous No.]

Based. I will now send shekels to the dog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40134137
Dog is on vacation until the 9th. But feel free, she needs more love.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130078
>Look at the superchat numbers per viewer with tempus vs the girls. Both Stars and StarsJP have very loyal rich audiences. They can have a 4k stream where every person in chat is membered. And the membership tiers are crazy. There's more passion/money in the small tempus fan base comparitively than a lot of the EN girls.
this is just because of a limited market, there are only so many whales and rich chinese trustfund daughters available whether you have 10 or 100 or 1000 talents. right now all the fujo whales donate to the males they have available but that puddle is an inch deep and not wide, compare that to the girls where the top superchat earners in JP are mostly just the newest girls and even the queen GFEs who attract the biggest whales get turned over from Rushia to Lamy to Chloe

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130078
>>40131219
>There's a better market for English speaking male vtubers than for a Japanese one
The English speaking male chuuba scene is dominated by people that appeal to chinese fujos, not westerners. In fact, before Luxiem came along and appealed to the chinks the west was actually unique in how little appetite there was for male indies. So unless you're going to rely on catching lightning in a bottle like Luxiem did, the problem isn't that the market for English speaking males remains untapped, the problem is that there isn't a market at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40096056
Spacer... Aethel...

[Anonymous No.]

>>40127311
>>40100660
>male vtubers are an untapped market that you should promote
As far as EN is concerned, this is true, but not in the way these beggars present it to be. If we're talking about actual female fans (fujos, yumes) and not clout chasing twitter retards who don't watch streams, they would absolutely prefer it if the males didn't interact with the girls, unless it was absolutely necessary and done professionally. And the biggest problem is how both the big corpos (and their talents) DON'T understand this, they think everyone wants to see males flirt with the girls or become their accessories. Luxiem only got popular because it was the first male EN group, and so far we don't have any western males (Tempus, NijiEN, even indies) who know how to actually appeal to a female fanbase. If we got a proper male-only vtuber corp, fujos with higher standards would absolutely jump ship. I know some fujos who only watch nijien because there simply isn't much better on the EN side.
tl;dr fujos also hate mixed gender interactions and would prefer a male-only corpo compared to what we currently have
t. fujo who only watches jp males because they actually understand their audience

[Anonymous No.]

>>40139681
Can Male VTUBING even work with appealing to just fujos/yumes?
From what I’ve seen, female unicorns are some of the most DOXX prone, MENHERA fanbase a chuuba can have.

I feel there are some male unicorns that wanna hook up with the chuuba RM, but predominantly all major yumes/fujos have stalked the male VTUBERS and know what they look like.

As someone who wants to get into VTUBING in 2023..I don’t want a female drugging me and harvesting my liver.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
well, if they make a male gen, they'll be less successful than the female gen, which are already 1views to begin with

[Anonymous No.]

>>40140009
they are 3-4view retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>40140009
Bizarre statement, not even the HE/Origen gen are 1 views.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095825
>nobody except niji mixes genders.
You forgot Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40129527
I did though wdym. And I have seen all the generals I visit incline in post frequency so others are as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40103787
Well no… based on the replies to his tweet, more then half of their audience would likely stop watching if a male branch were introduced, they’re *idol en… so the fans are idol fags who want their idols to remain pure

[Anonymous No.]

>>40105173
I had no idea about that, ive been avoiding her as a result of that whole thing… i might actually give her a chance now

[Anonymous No.]

>>40128549
My guy the CEO literally said they have a 4 year financial/business plan and that they are performing above expectations… besides even if the girls got ousted because they underperformed… they were hebrew vtubers… the marker for that is basically non existent… the fact that any of the hebrew girls get more then 10 views is honestly a small miracle

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095595
Anyone with half a braincell can tell he’s just trying not to get cancelled, I.E a biological woman who identifies as a man would be allowed, that’s what he’s referring to, there’s no reason for a corpo to choose a guy to play a female character unless they’re significantly better then any of the female candidates

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
Finally, someone gets it.

[Anonymous No.]

IdolEN Love!! Tummy Love!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>40145328
>he’s just trying not to get cancelled
Nah if I was him I'd flat out say NO. Controversy generates interest which a small corpo needs, and its not like the disingenous homobeggars are gonna leave him alone because hes trying to be fencesitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095692
Because not shitting on your customer is such a jewish thing to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
Starting the year strong I see, I never thought I would kneel for a jew but... here we are

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130388
Gaining 100 viewers at that level is huge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40105173
I actually unsubscribed when she said that, didn't want to have another kronii situation
Is it safe to give her a try again guys?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40111397
We are the ONLY place allowed to talk about it without comments getting deleted, blocked, thread locked and erased.
You forget how many lurkers there are on /vt/, we have one of the highest lurker counts on 4chan, 100 unique IP's are shitposting in a thread with 1200 people lurking, it's actually gross

I'm calling you faggots out, stop fucking lurking all the fucking time, whenever a cytube link goes up you all flock to it like piranha's, have the decency to post/bump threads if you are just going to leech off everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>40129527
>three small corpos' complete lack of viewers
All the small corpo's are growing m8

[Anonymous No.]

>>40130078
Here's the issue with appealing to teenage Yume's like Vox, they grow up and out of the paying fandom.
It's a short term fad among their girl cliques to talk about a new hot celebrity guy, which is why they brag about how much they support him to their friends.
They eventually outgrow it, usually quickly.

Look at KPOP, it's already reclining hard, look at justin bieber or any of the other FOTM boybands that rabid teenage girls foamed over until they outgrew them.
Vox appealing to chinese teenagers is not some kind of win, he needs to appeal to the 30 OL's that Holostar JP men do for any kind of long term support.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40134293
Why did she stream so little even before her break

[Anonymous No.]

>>40148205
Vox's audience is mostly lonely chink office women

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
respect

[Anonymous No.]

>>40133395
>says he considered adding males
>then says he realized that's a bad idea
>SHUT THE FUCK UP HE TOTALLY LOVES MALES
Are you gay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40129527
nigger where do you think the viewers they have come from?

[Anonymous No.]

>respectfully explains why they won't have any males
>wow he must be a total creep!
lmao the average homobegger
making it obvious they were never fans too so why should their opinions matter exactly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40151107
Where do these people even come from, they have a pattern of behavior where I can't help but to think they're bots or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
But do any of them even do GFE?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40151107
Twittards love calling people or things creepy, it scares people into their ideology better than most of their usual qualifiers while also being vague as fuck most of the time, so when you actually press them on it they can just fall back on "idk it's just a vibe I got lololololololololo"
>making it obvious they were never fans too so why should their opinions matter exactly?
Because they could have totally been a huge fan that anyone would definitely want in their fanbase. :^)
or
Because they actually are a huge fan and they just do all their fan activities on an alt account, up until they decided to complain just now and/or suddenly follow everyone in the company with their current account. :^)
>>40151765
no not really

[Anonymous No.]

>>40151107
They always have child molester furry fag pics too shit is fucking disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40151107
>he sounds like someone people should avoid anyways
>t. furry
oh the irony

[Anonymous No.]

>>40096009
BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>40151765
Kattarina and Nikki from HE

[Anonymous No.]

>>40152405
Sorry I don't watch jews, I'll watch the EN girls tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>40129933
>>40129657
>>40129527
YWNBAW

[Anonymous No.]

>>40152682
Good. I love being a man who enjoys looking at girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40149145
Like actually? Imagine being fully grown adults acting like this kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>40151765
I'd say yuko leans into it the most out of the EN girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>40129527
The post that killed /vt/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40152619
They both 100% speak English in their streams and Katta knows how to speak russian, arabic as well and a little german for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40131301
I'm not a shill but idol is unironically the best corpo at the moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
Ok yeah that's pretty based, might give the ghost woman a shot later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095204
Please, if ever a chuuba who already said multiple times that she won't collab with males gets a question like this then it's just homobeggars. No matter what you think of her at this point, Nazuna got this question recently in a marshmallow reading and flat out said no instantly, it got clipped and under the comments it was things like "we just need to push harder", "We need to let her know it's okay", "I want her to collab with (insert male)" it got so annoying that the clipper deleted the clip and btw when asked if the beggars watched her they admit that they either don't watch her or only watch clips. All of them are grifters and faggots who don't even watch chuubas and deserve the rope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40154984
>It got clipped

Please post proof o want to belieb

[Anonymous No.]

>>40152976
Well he was the top superchatted vtuber of 2022. That money has to come from somewhere. Even post Reimu he's still a money making monster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40155130
Clip got deleted by Hanabi, the one who clipped it on the channel, in 8 hours because they got so annoyed with the some of the fucking comments of the beggars so unfortunately I can't, however its still in the Christmas VOD. Was a straight up no, then softened a bit, then back to the straight up no at the end to clarify she won't be doing it at all to the fags who asked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40152619
Nikki will subvert you, so stay away.

[Anonymous No.]

Been thinking about checking out the tall eel girl. She has a nice voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>40156663
Her portal playthrough yesterday was a good stream if you're into vods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40127492
Based dogfucker

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
not even an "at this time", "for now", or "not yet" for lip service. Is that conviction or bottomless coffers speaking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40156663
Shes way cuter than I expected.
Shes one of those chuubas you can't watch without a dumb smile on your face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40126542
You don't get either.
They are jews. The prototype culture destroying force of nature and they will dance to whatever tune their (paying) supporters want and wear whatever mask they have to right up until they have hollowed out and bled the industry dry. Then they will disavow having ever known you.
This is them getting their foot in the door just like hollywood in the 60's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40156663
She is specially based for telling mommyfaggots and ara ara beggars to fuck off so early on

[Anonymous No.]

>>40158206
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.]

>>40158238
Based. Even tho I like that, I respect the hustle to not pander to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40139943
No because in the West, yujos and fujos are just kpop stans.

[Anonymous No.]

Didn't the big idol corp girl leech from Pippa?
Isn't that not very kosher?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40158104
He is the CEO of 3 companies, I'm pretty sure idol is a passion project to him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095868

[Anonymous No.]

Based asf

[Anonymous No.]

>>40134293
She has my fav model

[Anonymous No.]

>>40146394
God I love a good exposed tummy, expected a better voice but still watchable

[Anonymous No.]

>>40158259
That is exactly correct. One should spend some time lurking there.
Keep an eye on this market over the next couple decades because if it doesn't die and remains profitable then there will be large, slow changes to the corporate landscape that will impress the hell out of anyone looking back at the 2020 era.

Sincerly,
t.schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>40164945
>impress
you really are off your meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>40161463
YWNBAW

[Anonymous No.]

>>40164945
my sides

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
They dont do gfe though

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
Thats every corp's stance until they hit saturation and the only avenue for growth is to spin off a male gen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40169315
Kek >>40170235

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
doesnt matter much, womb tattoo ghost idolize pippa and she is not unicorn friendly at all plus she already did collab with males in the past, its just a matter of time for ghost to follow her example, leprecunny should be the next one, she is very well known for being very friendly with males at vrc, most of her friends there are males actually, so yeah enjoy while you can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40171016
>womb tattoo ghost
I need someone to explain that to me.

Eel pretty much confirmed that she wants to collab with males in the Valorant.

[Anonymous No.]

Who do I watch if I only watch Suisei? No I don't watch her for her music, I just like her personality

[Anonymous No.]

>>40172287
Rin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40171016
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.]

>>40095043
Only women to molest at work

[Anonymous No.]

>>40170240
>only avenue for growth
>Implying adding homos causes growth and not a recession
Kek, good jork.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40173369
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>40171016
All of your favorite Vtubers collabed with males in their past lives, that's one of the points in going corpo and starting again under a new identity, now they know what works and what doesn't which can be seen as they constantly bring up cooties or blatantly ignore male Nijis in chat which I can respect

[Anonymous No.]

>>40177619
Not that I even care about males, but I followed my oshi in her past life too and she never collabed with males then either so what you're saying is pretty disingenuous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40171735
>Eel pretty much confirmed that she wants to collab with males in the Valorant.
Nobody specific? Just anyone with a penis?

[Anonymous No.]

>meanwhile, Cover doubles down on going full retard
Based Aviel avoiding all this bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40177979
>First days of the year
>Hololive double downs on Males
>Idolcorp double downs on Females
There's an interesting year ahead of us

[Anonymous No.]

>>40177979
I FUCKING HATE COVER SO FUCKING MUCH. FUCK YOU FAGOO. FUCK YOU OMEGATRANNY. I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M SUCKING THE JEW'S CIRCUMCISED COCK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40129527
Amazing. You absolutely destroyed the unichuds here and they're left with nothing but seethe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40129527
Bold, I only watch chuubas that don't collab with males and I support the small corps. Not my problem that everyone else bitching just hate watches the chuubas they're bitching about, more CGDCT for me with less retards and a slower chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40179767
>>40180269(me)
>Chud= Chad + Stud

[Anonymous No.]

>>40179767
I am absolutely seething that companies are pandering to me now.