2022 Yearly Superchat Leaders (now featuring every member)

[Anonymous No.]

It's that time of the year again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40086979
Go Kiara, Go

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>>40086979
Go Flare, Go

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>>40086979
reminder that the girls only get x.35 of that minus local taxes

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>>40086979
Orca milkers... I kneel

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>>40086979
So Chloe is the new Rushia right?

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>>40086979
(Except for Pekora, Marine and Miko) Is there a correlation that the lamer and more boring you are the most SCs you'll get?

[Anonymous No.]

>Rushia only active for first 1.5 months of 2022
>Still made more than over half the talents

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>>40086979
Why is HAKUI KOYORI so fucking high ON EVERY SINGLE CHART OF ANY TYPE
WHAT THE FUCK HOW

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>>40087262
To be fair, it was her birthday during that time.

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>>40087268
Step 1: Stream
Step 2: Don’t be a retard
Step 3: ????
Step 4: Profit

[Anonymous No.]

I just checked the website and holy hell, Vox was the only vtuber to break a million this year. There is definitely an untapped fujo market. I wonder how he'd compare to Rushia if she was never fired. It says her total for all time was 3.2 million.

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>>40087120
Those cents do add up though.
Also with smaller fanbase having talents the amount of superchats can affect their value in the eyes of their company.

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>>40087460
>There is definitely an untapped fujo market.
Vox is the fujo market

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>>40087460
>There is definitely an untapped fujo market.
There was an untapped market, Vox filled it and now you could release a Vox clone that it wouldn’t work. He filled the entire market by himself.

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>>40089245
>>40089362
this. holostars moved too late and shot themselves in the foot by going with disgusting male designs. first thought when you ask anyone about male vtubers is vox and will be vox forever. everyone remembers kizuna ai but no one remembers kaguya.

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>>40089450
>>40089245
Nijiniggers seething will always be funny.

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>>40089494
?

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>>40086979
Ah I see now why they shill HoloX so much.

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>>40087268
qed
shes the btains of holox

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>>40089450
No, holostars is a different story, they’re filling a very different niche.
Vesper is and will always be remembered as the male vtuber watched by male audience, "he’s just like me fr fr". He even admitted on stream than his male to female viewers ratio was higher than all other Tempus members.
Now, if next Niji waves or Holostars gen try to pander to fujo again, they’re going to have a pretty bad time.

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>>40086979
I don't know if Ayame is surprisingly low or suprisingly high.

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>>40089645
Yeah I think overall what Holostars EN has decided to try and do is tap the brotuber market.
Lot more competition for sure, BUT little outside of indies in the vtuber market.

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>>40089645
>they’re filling a very different niche.
they've already filled it. vesper hasn't grown since his peak.

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>>40086979
Kiara is doing super well for being one of the lowest in ccv of the all the holos

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>>40089767
Less tourists. More fans.

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>>40089767
>Kiara is doing super well for being one of the lowest in ccv of the all the holos
Scarle makes more money in superchats compared to most of Council despite only having 500 CCV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40089767
I keep saying this.
KFP are fanatical.

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>>40089767
>lowest in ccv
>>40089816
>despite only having 500 CCV.
ccv is a meaningless stat that only /#/ cares about. youtube doesn't run ads over streams so you don't even get any ctr money.

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, now do the chart that includes merch, music and sponsorship profits.

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>>40089767
>one of the lowest in ccv of the all the holos
Apart from all of ID, half of EN, 40% of JP and even Ame and Mori nowadays.
But yeah, she’s not Top 10 most viewed, I guess.

>>40089816
>500 CCV.
Nigga what?

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>>40086979
Koyori? Lamy? Iroha? Literally the blandest holos are all top earners? The fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

How the fuck does she do it?

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>>40087268
Embrace the mayodog already you tsundere retard.

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>>40087468
Not really. It's so easy to upkeep a streamer that even the lowest grossing holos bring in a profit.

[Anonymous No.]

I am shocked how well Holox did but it is absolutely deserved. Works earns money. What a concept.

Btw i hate kiara. Shes probably my second most hated hologirl of all time. But theres no doubting she has the greatest work morale of her gen, not pretending to be sick like these other grifting retards.

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>>40086979
Damn holoX was a massive success

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>>40089494
You know Vox was number 1 in the entire year right??? What is there to seethe??

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>>40086979
From what I've seen, she's cute and all, but what's Chloe doing exactly? I'm not surprised by Koyori, girl streams 28 hours a day, but I don't recall Chloe having this reputation.

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>>40091935
she's cute and great at zatsus
plus lots of clips and holox shilling kept her momentum high

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>>40087120
nonetheless, taking into account superchats, revenue from youtube views, memberships and the ocasional sponsored stream... would the upper half of the talents count as high income individuals?

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>>40086979
Once stinky orca going the route that unlocks the Final Yab, such will always be the fate of the most superchatted

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>Vesper made more than many HoloID and HolostarsJP within only a few months
Holy shit I didn't realize he was doing this well. Good for him.
I can save Iofi....

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>>40092002
Huh, just doing the standard well enough can work out, I guess. Good for her.

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>Sana is close to the middle
IMAGINE LOSING TO A CORPSE WHO NEVER STREAMED EVEN WHEN SHE WAS ALIVE

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>>40092334
i would say so, unless there is some strict definition of high income individuals

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>>40093413
Okay, Aki, Sora, Astel, Gamma (who? I literally don't know who that is) I get. But Ina? How the hell?

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>>40093496
That's just a small snip

ALL of these people lost to Sana's corpse

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>>40087268
Bots.

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>>40086979
>rushia streamed for just a little over 1 month and still made it to the upper half
sasuga supacha queen

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>>40093496
Sana had a massive advantage of being a genuinely nice girl.
If I had a son and he brought home a girl like Sana and I didn't see a ring on her finger, I'd take him to another room and demand an explanation. Unless his answer was something along the lines of "I wanted to introduce her to you before proposing" I would smack that boy and tell him to go buy a ring immediately while me and his mother distracted her.

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>>40093496
I don't know why people aren't just going with the obvious answer which was the pity/ farewell donations when she left. From memory I think she made around ~$50k on like one or two streams at the very end if not more.

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Can someone compare superchat earnings to number of hours streamed? Like a $ per hour streamed stat or something

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>>40089645
Hex Haywire made $45,000 in the space of about 2 weeks unapologetically doing exactly what Vox did. Niji can systematically attack the fujo market whenever the fuck they want.

Holostars is the lost cause. They had so much money coming in from Reddit warriors but that money dried up months ago along with the new subscribers. Now even people in ILUNA like Aia, Ren and Kyo are either about to overtake them or already have.

The 65% overseas fanbase Hololive rely on to fuel all their regional branches have been spread too thin.

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>>40093867
Ayame would be #1

[Anonymous No.]

chinese fujos are something else

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>>40093903
>Holostars is the lost cause.
that's what happens when you hammer in the brotuber meta without realizing there is no market for brotubers.

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>>40093903
hololive is still reviled in china and redditors only beg but don't watch the streams (some people never learned from what happened to Aki)
holostars never had a chance

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>>40092334
Kaela had top 10% income in Indonesia from her cut of Superchats alone

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>>40086979
can we have a version of this but rotate it 90 degrees for the next year

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>>40093496
Gamma is the paripi mangaka from Uproar.

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>>40093597
i still miss her...

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>>40094208
In no universe are the Holostars EN people brotubers.
It's just a gathering of weirdos that the Japanese thought would be quirky and endearing to the West.
Just too many cultural differences.
Like they like MMOs but they want to "win" them. That's not the point of MMOs. Western ones anyway. Magni is about to be consumed by Maplestory anyway, his Korean blood can't resist the pull. All of them will, leaving Vesper alone with his peppers.
It feels to me that those performers wish to spar with their audience, not too unlike Ame and Kronii. They just hate their audience. A far cry from brotherhood. Such a shame, really. Such a shame.

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>>40091935
Chloe has a voice, design and personality that have been calculated and optimized to the highest degree for the singular purpose of getting horny virgins to hand over money in spades
This is nothing more than a brilliantly executed gameplay paying off high dividends

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>>40092334
High or not, Roboco built her own house. I doubt any of them has trouble making ends meet. That is probably the main appeal of going corpo

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>>40095390
Roboco took a loan for that and that's actually a good thing cause she has an extra motivator to work even harder this year.

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>all these people talking about males pandering to fujos
YUMES EXIST TOO
WHY IS IT ALWAYS FUJOS THAT GET TALKED ABOUT?

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>>40095805
and nijisanji has perfectly captured this audience. holostars are too scared because they are micromanaged by staff to avoid icky male-male pairing that make the japanese queasy.

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>>40093496
Ina doesn't consistently read superchats on stream which I'm sure is a big reason. People like her a lot but she doesn't do much to encourage people to pay.

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>>40090876
Lot and lots of superchat baiting

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>>40095985
That's kinda basec though. I can respect Ina for not wanting to exploit her fans for money

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>>40096030
How does she superchat bait?
Does reading them count as bait?

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>>40096101
She spends half of her streaming time just talking and complaining about bullshit that guilts her fanbase into sending her money

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>>40096059
Yeah it's always been a big reason Ina is based. She's pretty anti-exploiting her fanbase. Even saying that she doesn't really like people expressing love or especially lewding her. She just likes making art and having a chill atmosphere. I respect a lot that she clearly laid out expectations even if it ends up kneecapping her. It's like with Bae you can't really fault her for liking and interacting with homos when she brought it up right from her debut, minimizes schizos growing expectations.

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>>40086979
>Chloe
Why didn't you listen? This is the future you choose.

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>>40096460
I don't speak nihongo, what makes Chloe so powerful?

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>>40094338
thats the only good thing about living in 3rd world countries, having any sort of income in dollars pretty much guarantees you comfy middle class at the very least

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>>40093675
She was pretty high in EN SC earnings in 2021, so I think there’s also some momentum from that in January before it dropped off until her graduation announcement.

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>>40096333
She usually turns superchats off for her emotional streams though.
The real reason Kiara gets so many supers is because she is guaranteed to read them, and gives back to the fans

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>>40086979
Lui punching well above her weight there

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>>40096598
Maybe I should proceed with my plan of learning Bahasa Indonesia, and move there

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>>40096460
She's playing 3D chess and we're but her pawns. I kneel

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>>40086979
If Cover taking a 35% cut of the total is true (50% after Youtubes 30%) then they made a little over 5 million dollars purely off superchats last year. Not too shabby.

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>>40095165
The impression i had of her in the first days since her debut was "laboratory project on cuteness". Everything very carefully investigated and thought of.

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>>40097811
Cover knows what they're doing.
There's few real accidents these days.

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>>40093529
Why's Kobo so low? I thought she was doing really well that year?

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>>40096563
I actually want to know this as well, she never attracted my attention and she still doesn't. Please don't tell me sex appeal is all she has going for her

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>>40097989
most of her donos come from the ID site

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Why the fuck are people using Sana's corpse? Coco got half of Chloe's yearly SC on her graduation stream. Graduation buff is very strong.

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>>40096460
The reason she works is that even when people know its fake, they still fall into her clutches. Dangerous indeed.

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>>40097989
Indonesia is a third-world country and only recently Youtube made it possible for them to send superchats. They all still prefer you donate through their other links and always will since Susan takes less of a cut (but you get less donations overall).

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>>40099388
That being said they feel the bite of their projects a lot more.
Ollie has to spend most of what she makes on music videos, art and such. Has a part time job to cover her living costs.

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>>40093903
Holo should made BFE vtubers, but they insisted on unity bullshit and hurt some of the female chuubas in the process. Can't believe Niji is so good at even while having mixed gens.

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>>40093529
>Risu this low, dead end
It just hurts

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>>40087268
She streams an ungodly amount and is cute

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>>40093496
Ina actively tells people not to superchat and never reads it.
Sana also made probably 30-40% of this during her graduation run

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>>40095476
Taking out a loan is common for any middle-class earner buying a house, so while it's true that in itself isn't remarkable, the fact she can while being on the low end of Hololive SC earners is.

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>>40087268
she works hard and actually cares about her audience

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>>40101009
BFE is a lot harder to do and has a niche audience.
Worse it has no cross market reach. You have ONE market.

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>>40089587
niji takes up 90% of anons brain capacity please understand

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>>40089645
>"he’s just like me fr fr"
lel. Holostars still lack a true brotuber like NijiJP.

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>>40087460
She still makes as much as mikeneko and angel

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>>40093373
It sadly isn't the standard anymore

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>>40090876
she has read every superchat shes ever gotten in the last 3 years

plus she's hardworking, and honest so a lot of kfp feels the money is deserved.
combine that with a mild gfe experience and you get why kiara is queen of superchats in EN

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>>40089645
Holostars needs to put out a dadtuber.
Not a brotuber like Vesper. I'm talking full on supportive father experience.
The amount of dosh they'll rake in off guys with weak father figures will be obscene and depressing in equal measure.

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>>40102810
>implying anyone with the personality to be a dad is a degenerate weeb who would give up a job to larp and anime boy
ignoring the fact that cover will probably give him a shitty debuff model like magni

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>>40094208
The issue is that none of them are true brotubers nor are their supposed attempts good ones (brotubers is a stupid term btw).

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>>40102933
What do people even mean when they say brotuber?

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>>40103053
A normal male content creator that dudes like. Unironically, Kuzuha is actually one of the best vtubers like that despite having an official pairing thing. I don't think anyone in Holostars is one, even the ENs aren't.

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>>40103053
a male chuuba who
>doesn't pander to women
>tries to emulate prestreaming era of youtube of guys putting out lets play videos
>nerfs themselves by filtering out all the normies who would otherwise watch by unecessarily slapping on a shit male vtuber model on top of everything

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>>40102876
Oh I dunno.
Someone with a relatively positive and supportive personality who takes an earnest interest in his fans and what they're up to?
It's not that high a bar.

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>>40103480
vtubing is an inherently visual medium. no one is going to take dad advice from a gross model.

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>>40103304
So, Axel and Altare? (Unless you count his voice as pandering to women)
>>40103260
I don't understand why you people list Kuzuha all the time (He was listed in other threads as "brotuber") when the guy has called himself an idol several times, and even has a male idol unit under Chronoir.

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>>40093496
>But Ina? How the hell?
Ina didn't exist for half of the year. How is her doing bad a surprise?

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>>40103633
>So, Axel and Altare?
yes. which is why axel is doing so poorly. altare puts in the work with his menshis but even with that his revenue is weak compared to nijisanji males who are allowed to pander.

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>>40093496
>But Ina?
Also 3 months of Elden Shit without SCs

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>>40097989
1 red superchat is like 3 months worth of income of the average indonesian.
Why do you think most ID streams in English?

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>>40086979
I sure hope the people ahead of Pekora don't graduate again...

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>>40101418
Send her superchats, she's got lots of bills to pay

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>>40094709
Also the most BFE JP Stars even if he talks about banana and poop most of the time.
>>40095964
The member themselves also don't really want to go full fujo pandering. Shien wanted to but his most popular partner, Roberu, is too straight for it and while Oga is fine doing it, he said that he doesn't want to alienate his male viewers too much. So at most you get Miyabi and Temma who are just teetee.

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>>40095805
I'm pretty sure 90% of the time when /vt/ talks about fujos they do mean yumes. They just think fujo means female fan.

>>40095964
Holostars aren't scared, they just don't want to. Astel is literally bisexual and he hates ship shit.

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>>40090876
>>40089767
>>40089863
I was going to say she's the Flare of EN but then I saw she was right beside her too.
Now that I think about it they have lots in common.

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>>40094880
Kronii doesn't hate her fans.

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>>40086979
LoFi….

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>>40086979
huh, Shion got more than Ayame.

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>>40103304
>>tries to emulate prestreaming era of youtube of guys putting out lets play videos
This is ultimately what I wanted out of Tempus, something akin to the old Lets Play/Achievement Hunter and there was some of that with stuff like their Zomboid streams. That being said I don’t think the dynamic can be there in a group like HoloPro since each personality is also their own brand and they feel a greater need to focus on that as opposed to true group feeling in their content.

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>>40089494
retard

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>>40086979
>Kiara leading Holo EN
As it should be

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>>40112670
Closely followed by Mori? Dare I say, is the takamori real?

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>>40105510
send it to her RM streamlabs instead

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>>40094880
Either you take your fucking meds or end yourself schizo. None of the people you mentioned are at odds with their audience

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>>40087200
Except way more mentally stable, even when you count the ghost arc. Chloe has perfected Rushia's GFE.

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>>40102876
>>40102810
Arurandeisu...

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>>40115669
Anon... he's gone.

[Anonymous No.]

konkoyo love

[Anonymous No.]

so when are they killing off ID?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40094880
Thread watcher.

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>>40102810

I feel like a dadtuber would be relatively boring. A dad isn't there to be your friend, they're there to be a mentor. What niche could a mentor really fill while playing video games, especially solo?

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>>40092334
Very much so. Calli confirmed that she was in the highest tax bracket for the US, which means she, in the least, earned over $540k.

Before anyone jumps in with the "She didn't really have to pay that much in taxes" how much she actually paid is irrelevant here, she said she was in the highest bracket, which is all that matters here. Doing the math, her take home percent of 35% of the total is $115,850 for superchats, meaning the, again, absolute minimum amount from other sources, was $424,150.

In the US, if you make more than $343k / yr, you're in the top 5%. In fact, for the 21-22 fiscal year, if you make more than $597k, you were in the top 1%.

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>>40089669

She had a total of 36 streams in the entire year for 2022. She made $168k ($58,800 her cut) this past year. That's $4,666.66 ($1,633.33 her cut) per stream. Her typical stream was about 2 1/2 hours, so that's $1,866.66 ($653.33 her cut) per hour.

EXTREMELY overpaid and surprising (in a bad way) how much support was thrown her way for very little actual value.

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>>40117888
Never. ID prints free money and it doesnt matter that it isnt as much as main branch GFE types.. Moona started streaming with a potato a phone she put together from a box of scraps using only knowledge of redstone and still manage to make it over 1 million subs . No costs you can have child labor with 5 year old taxi drivers like Kobo and they make enough money to keep your office vending machines stocked and bathrooms ful of toilet paper forever

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>>40087268
She actually deserves it. I recall in the early days seeing how much effort she was putting in and feeling bad because I assumed it wasn't being rewarded. Well it is, good

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>>40089767
In terms of having people toss money at her, yeah, sadly that's all it is.

>>40089802
Less of everything. She has one of the lowest average video views per subscriber metrics. She's got fans willing to toss money though.

>>40089863
That's not a good thing though, you realize that right? A rabid fanbase is one that gate keeps, chases off new people, and demands from the performer even when they have no right to. The fans are the reason she decided not to interact with the guys because "You guys wouldn't like that" not because she didn't want to herself. If she did decide to do a male / female collab by her choice, those unicorns would ditch her. That's toxic, not loyal.

>>40090300
We literally have access to the CCV data, and literally the only one lower than her this past year is Mori, period. You can try and cheese the numbers all you want and go 'Well this month" yadda yadda, but the metrics over time matter more than short term bang and bust. You don't see others going "Well Kiara was the least superchatted this past week so clearly she's the worst!" but that's exactly what you're trying to pull with CCV views.

>>40091296
Agreed on Kiara. I absolutely can't stand her as a streamer or person, but I absolutely WISH the others had half the work ethic she does. Sadly for her, a work ethic alone won't solve all the issues she does have.

>>40093263
ID girls are a bit hard to track because this is just playboard trackings (it literally says so in the upper right) ID does donation differently using a different program than YouTube for the donations. I believe they've only had YouTube donations active for about 3 months now, and even with them active, the other way they get donations hasn't gone away as a primary source of their donations.

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>>40119393
You need to take a long look in the mirror and rethink your life.

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>>40119534
You are right. It's not really about Kiara. It never was. It's myself i have a problem with. It's just so hard. I'm sorry KFP, your oshi is great.

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>>40119534

Because I told you facts and you don't like them? Fuck off.

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>no ENs in the top 10
Tell me again how EN is the most important Hololive branch

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>>40119769
I don't even watch or care about EN, it's just that your post gave me shivers from imagining what drives a person to this state.

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>>40096059
>>40096375
>doing business bad is le based

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>>40118054
who the fuck would superchat a dadtuber?

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>>40087120
Ofc !
But they also get money from ads, paid stream, and goodies.
So it's not like they are poor or anything

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>>40120238
>ads
they still only make 35% of those after corporate and youtube cuts
>paid stream
no matter how good these sponsorships are, it's pretty rare. even finana who has done the most sponsorship streams, has only done like 6 over the last 2 years.
>goodies
nijisanji is the only one who does well with merch but we don't know what the cut is

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>>40089965
It's clearly not meaningless if it's displayed in the first place, and livestreamers do mention it from time to time, from big fleshtubers like ludwig to vtubers like vox and selen
CCV is everything for twitch streamers. It's a little less important for youtube streamers due to vods not disappearing but it's still important

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>>40095964
>micromanaged by staff to avoid icky male-male pairing
More like the ones avoiding it are Holostars themselves. Save from Shien and the occasional Miyabi and Temma (and maybe Rio for Uproar), none of them like being seen that way anyway. Astel goes out of his way to say that he doesn't want to be shipped with anyone at all. There's a reason why most Holostars fans are on private in Twitter and circulate fanmade work like it's a forbidden document

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>>40097989
she has atleast 40.000 total SB donations (minimal donation of 1$) so atleast 40k usd more. SB also only has 5% platform cut so overall she got more than other talents that got all of their donation from SB
https://sociabuzz.com/kobokanaeru/tribe

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>>40124563
>all of their donation from sb
SC i mean

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>>40090216
I.e. the actually useful chart

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>>40095964
>holostars always was and always will be brotubers
based

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>>40118754
>she said
She's a moron, why do you trust anything she says?

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>>40096460
OUGAMAN predicted the fucking future

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>>40101009
Going BFE would have reduced Holostars to bootleg Nijimales. Plus they don't get all of those Chinese fujobucks anyways so it wouldn't pay off. It's a good thing they went for a different angle, especially with the EN branch. It works. The JPs besides Roberu Astel and Gamma just have to do more and get creative to boost their success. Good luck to Aruran since he seems to be trying really hard.

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>>40124992
Here's your (You). But of course, meds are what you should really be begging for.

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>>40115559
The ghost arc was simply a calculated move to ensure a get out of jail free card for bfs making noise

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>>40096598
sure but that middle class is basically working class in 1st world, it would only be a pro if you care about being above other people.
Which is retarded if you're white, since you are by nature.

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>>40117888
ID branch is basically guaranteed profit anon, it's pocket change to keep the branch running and whatever money is made is worth it

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>>40125240
It was a female voice that set things off though.

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>>40125133
this is it. the jp holostars that haven't gotten more successful by now are the ones that don't really care. most of them are not numberfags and dont do things to boost growth minus aruran and the rest of uproar

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>>40096059
>>40096375
tbf she was well off before holo, unlike the rest of her gen

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>>40125425
Most of them have other careers. It's no suprise that many of them don't feel desperate to numberfag their way to the top like how some of the girls feel. Holostars is like a side hustle for a lot of them.

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>>40086979
I'm happy to see Koyori so high. She works very hard.

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>>40125504
>having income from multiple sources makes you act more reasonably
go fucking figure

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>>40125604
>act more reasonably
in what world has that happened

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>>40086979
Now divide it by number of subcribers, how much SC holos get by each subscriber in average?

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>>40125666
Why subscriber, why not people that actually watch?

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>>40125666
Fucking rip Gura

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>>40125649
in the world of entertainment particularly but nowhere else

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>>40125727
But on stream has where she has constantly been unreasonable

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>>40125684
>that actually watch
Like what? Total views? ccv? Makes more sense to meassure how much of they can squeeze from the follower pool they have

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>>40125884
>Makes more sense to meassure how much of they can squeeze from the follower pool they have
Which would be the people that actually watch.

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>>40117520
Yeah what the fuck did they do to him?

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>>40125884
>how much of
Please ignore the "of"

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>>40086979
Cover should clearly disband the male branches and focus on the core business with the girls.

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>>40125912
So... which meassurement unit you think is suitable?

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>>40126003
The core business is the JP girls.
So are you suggesting EN and ID also get shut down?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40125684
This.
SC/ccv or SC/viewedhours is a much better metric than using subs. Subs are only good for measuring growth rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40126030
Unique chatters throughout a 1 year period

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>>40125666
>>40125884
The more interesting number is money divided by number of hours streamed, since it shows how much effort they put in.

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>>40126075
Is there an easy way to meassure that? Dividing by subscribers sounds easier and easier to understand.

>>40126141
SC per hour sounds pretty good too, another interesting one would be total views/subscribers to know how hard the dead sub ratios are for some members.

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>>40119838
this is particularly a very shitty year for holoEN with an infamous barrage of long breaks from all but one or two female members and only having Tempus as their only new blood, which under the Holostar brand obviously will not do anything grand. management is too retarded to keep the momentum of the branch going

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>>40126348
Easier doesn't mean anything. Subscribers are literally useless.

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>>40126379
There's little reason to.
EN is not a money maker for them. Expanding ID and putting more effort into them is going to have bigger returns.

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>>40094208
holostars isn't brotuber oriented though
really only vesper and MAYBE axel and roberu actually have a considerable male audience

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>>40126445
holoEN literally was responsible for the 2020 blowup that made hololive as a whole insurmountably dominant in all of vtubing though, but yeah they are finished at this point. ID i feel they have already dried their luck with kobo and that she has already filled the IDtuber niche. really only JP is worth expanding because they have consistently made big-time moneymakers every gen

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>>40086979
Why is Miyabi always the worst-performing homo, especially if he's the dai-senpai?

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>>40126814
You really don't understand the point here.
Covers business is not focused on cute girls streaming. That isn't where the majority of its money comes from.
The money comes from merch, advertising, licensing, guest appearances, etc.
All of these are very Japan focused activities for Cover as Japans mediascape is very closed due to the language barrier.
They can get decent money for things like an advert for instant curry.

They can't do this with EN. The English language mediascape is simply too massive and too saturated.
Ain't no one paying Cover anything resembling good money for an advertising appearance. Guras microsecond stock image appearance in a Taco Bell ad is the best they're ever gonna get in English media.
The best that Cover could hope for is something like the Gfuel sponsorship that Snuffy had for a while, and to them that would barely be worth doing.

To put it simply cute anime girls selling you things and being media personalities/celebrities is a thing that works mainly in Japan.
And this is Covers main business model.
Now do you see why EN is not worth much to them? They can't get much more than the odd bit of merch and whatever their cut is on supas.
The reason ID has potential is its mediascape is not entirely dominated by English content. So they could possibly get advertising and TV appearances there for the ID girls.

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>>40125604
>being a coddled silver spoon kid means you don't need to milk the business as hard
True, but there is nothing "unreasonable" about the rest doing so if it involves nothing more than a simple thank you to their fans.

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Do any of these include membership?

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>>40127166
Honestly, why do homos even bother?

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>>40086979
How the fuck iroha got that high?

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>>40093529
Its mostly holostars. Would more female Holos been a better investment?

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I wonder if EN3 will do better than Council or worse.
All of Myth is flatlined for subs, while Council + IRyS is slowly ticking up. The Korean pandering fell off and there are now Korean vtubers anyway, meanwhile NA largely moved on from chuubas.

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>>40115559
>Chloe has perfected Rushia's GFE.
Unless she makes a roommate account to prove that every she does as a vtuber is genuine and not just "playing a part", she won't actually be able to compete with Rushia

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>>40127522
Eurochads time to pick up.

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>>40127166
Because he was kneecapped from the very beginning, got lots of death threats for merely existing in the Hololive brand, was on meds due to the pressure and depression. Almost quit until Yagoo and Shinove saved them all.

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>>40086979
who's chloe?

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>>40127646
Sounds like he would have been better off quitting

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>>40127837
Your homo hate aside, he's doing well enough to live off this job. Remember that membership and merch also provides revenue for all talents.

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>>40127969
It's not really the point if he can live off of it when there's millions of opportunities in the world to be successful, all without having to take meds.

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Do you guys think voice actress gets envious from how high the money some vtubers earn compared to them? Azusa Tadokoro sounded like she's so poor compared to suisei here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW5MhZMEx74

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>>40128054
Dunno, the reason they want to be VAs in the first place is that it's not a real job and women are more comfortable working in a not real job

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>>40125360
Establishing the alibi with something innocuous ahead of time before you need to use it.

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>>40128322
Anon, ghosts aren't real and people were just playing along.

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>Chloe the new Rushia
>Koyori and Kaela grind paying off
>Kiara and Mori despite having the lowest CCV of EN made the most in supas
>StarsEN among the highest earners in Stars with just half a year

Being just supas doesn't factor in that talents have different chat culture where they give large amounts of gifted memberships instead of supas. But I'd say all the talents are doing quite well when you factor in Superchats, Membership, and Merchandise.

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>>40128046
He's in a much better place now if it wasn't obvious.

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LET'S GO KAELAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>40089767
shes the only one who streams in EN

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>>40090216
>that includes merch, music and sponsorship profits.
>music
Mori pre UMG and Suisei would undeniably be in the top 3 or 4

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>>40086979
I get why koyori has so much because the number of times she streams everyday, but how can Chloe get so much?

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>>40119012
Sentimental attachment
And she has one the cutest model in Holo with cute laughs
She used to work quite hard when Cover was still a small company
Too bad she's just farming money now

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>>40099042
This. Even though she openly stated on she likes money, her viewers throw money to her instead of getting turned off
She is dangerous

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>40119393
>subtle Kiara-anti
>is a beggar
At least try a little harder, anon.

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Divide every number you see there by 3 and you get their take-home earnings. Then triple that amount to account for VOD revenue, merch and other shit and you get their total earnings. Ironically it ends up being equal to the number already displayed. Honestly it makes all of them seem extremely poor, far from the "millionaires" people claim them to be.

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>>40130794
>but how can Chloe get so much?
She is great at zatsudans and her design is awesome. Just like Coco was.

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>>40132159
she also has great skill at using her model, many of her colleagues are samefaced deadpan fish because they dont wanna bother handcontrolling the rig

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>>40087268
Streaming, being cute, working hard. I know, radical concept.

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>>40131918
Membership is the elephant in the room here. We have literally no access to numbers on Membership but if membership conversion on subs is even as low as .1% you're looking at tens of thousands on top of that for most of Hololive.

Frankly, all the stats that numberfags tout are almost certainly less important than the hidden ones for corpo vtubers - merch sales, membership, event revenues, sponsorships etc.

[Anonymous No.]

Well done Kaela. Hourly wage may be lower than some, but still.

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>>40093413
Graduation stream on top of people that actually thought that she had a serious health problem.

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>>40102810
They should hire me. I'll do home improvement and grilling streams and make Dad jokes the whole time.

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>>40096563
I think the translation is a bit wrong, a better translation would be that Chloe plays the carefree type. The lewd airhead carefree type.
The type that makes you think "If I make a lewd joke, she will play along".

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>>40132794
She's above the Sana line at least

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>>40089620
>shes the btains of holox

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>>40133412
That made me think that where would Sana be without the graduation pity money? 40?

[Anonymous No.]

Kanata never ceases to amaze me.

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>>40133751
Even more impressive considering how many months off she had to take this year and how stream-light the last couple of months were.

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>>40093597
>Sana had a massive advantage of being a genuinely nice girl.
>If I had a son and he brought home a girl like Sana and I didn't see a ring on her finger, I'd take him to another room and demand an explanation. Unless his answer was something along the lines of "I wanted to introduce her to you before proposing" I would smack that boy and tell him to go buy a ring immediately while me and his mother distracted her.


fuck you anon im sad now...I miss her ticc peanut butter accent

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>>40102933
>The issue is that none of them are true brotubers nor are their supposed attempts good ones (brotubers is a stupid term btw).

the issue is that Selen IS the brotuber market
and she has it on a tight leash

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>>40127294
The thing with the side branches is that they are far lower maintenance than the main branch
Simply because they support them far less, due both to logistics (for EN in particular) and the reasons you state
Cover would make money for any new chuuba, even holostars, unless they majorly fuck up
I suspect the reason they haven't debuted a new EN gen alongside Tempus, or really do much of anything in 2022, is that their upper management is just a complete mess, can't effectively communicate with their overseas talents, and doesn't really know what to do except try (and fail) to copy what JP is doing
Which is pretty typical for a JP company trying to enter a foreign market - Cover lucked into success with Myth and Holoro, not due to any particular brilliance

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>>40132244
Don't forget unicorn friendly. Also she treats her fans very well and takes a lot of time just to talk to chat, which goes a long way.

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>>40134085
...unless she's a trans, she can't be a brotuber
Even if you're only trying to classify it by brotubing audience, that still doesn't bode well considering how small her audience is
Especially compared to actual EN brotubers that dominate fleshtubing/streaming

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>>40097244
bro Lui is SEX

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>>40134334
>fleshtubing
this is /vt/ anon

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>>40089645
>the male vtuber watched by male audience, "he’s just like me fr fr"
I still don't understand why any guy would bother watching a male vtuber, if you're there for the content then just watch an irl streamer or better yet someone that doesn't even feel the need to show us his face like women are compelled to.

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>>40135276
Your competition for the brotubing audience IS fleshtubers
If all you care about is gameplay, voice, and personality, you don't really care about how the person looks
In fact, lots of prominent streamers and youtubers don't show themselves at all
Brotubing chuubas ala Kuzuha works in JP because their top streamers are mostly chuubas

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>>40135376
>if you're there for the content then just watch an irl streamer or better yet someone that doesn't even feel the need to show us his face like women are compelled to
That's like asking why are you watching some 3DPD skinwalk as an 2D girl when attractive fleshtubers? Same sort of shit, their content or the way they entertain clicks with you so you consoom their defecation.

[Anonymous No.]

As a non #fag this is pretty interesting and I'm glad my oshi is doing well

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>>40118754
Mori also has a successful music career, she's the most streamed holo artist on Spotify and did a live concert this year, not to mention her roommates income.

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>>40135588
But on the flipside because the audience of brotubers don't care about avatars and some would settle with just voice, Tempus, or at least Vesper, should be treated as any other brotuber and his success would be based on the merit of his content vs other brotubers instead of other vtubers. All that StarsEN gives him is a head start and resources, but he will still have to compete in that space instead of the vtuber one.

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>>40086979
is there a version of this graph normalized by hours streamed?

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>>40135588
This.
Bro-tubing is the “friendship” experience.
Good friends don’t give af about what they look like. Male Fleshtubers are mostly 7 out of 10 or lower, they are the biggest competition.

Having a sexy male avatar as a “brotuber” feels kinda gay, even if the guy is the biggest gamer. Overtime you’ll get the disgusting fujos/yumes, which will creep out the NORMIE audience.

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>>40140661
This is basically why Axia left Niji btw, He wanted a more casual brotuber-ish fanbase but instead he got the polar opposite of his target market and it pissed him off

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>>40087268
imagine enjoying streaming lmao

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>>40090800
Cry more EOP

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>>40087021
she had to stream 50% more than her peers to get the same SC

[Anonymous No.]

So, who is making that superchar/hours streamed table?

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>>40087268
Just stream and produce content. All she did is doing what Pekora already done so why the surprise for her success?

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>>40090800
You never even watched them. Clips are irrelevant source right now and you actually need to watch them to actually know about them

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>>40126035
Yes. ID and EN failed to replicate the successful entertainment model. The few girls that understand what Hololive is about can simply operate within HoloJP.

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>>40141977
>Vesper stuck at the bottom
Not his fault management can't hold a conversation using nothing more than image macros.

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>>40090216
Are those >numbers publicized anywhere, or possible to estimate?

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>>40130743
Only pre-UMG? Her post UMG albums placed pretty well. Though I'm not sure how much of a cut UMG is taking. But yeah, both would be up there, neither of them are playing the supacha game much.

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>>40144983
She probably got a lump sum from making the album and fuck all else from the sales if typical music industry stuff is anything to go by.

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>>40086979
Now divide their superchat amounts by their hours streamed.

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>>40086979
Chloe holding this shit company up on her shoulders.

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>>40089767
Kiara has an impressive amount of members, she's making the most reliable money in the company honestly

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>>40093529
Sana made most of that money during her graduation month,

[Anonymous No.]

>>40111702
Watch her friends streams more

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>>40145154
What about Cover? I'd assume they get a sum too? Since supas include the cut to Cover I guess that should be included.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40086979
Bump

[Anonymous No.]

Rushia...

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>>40134087
There's also the general impression I get that the EN management are basically the company's window tribe.
I mean the guy they got managing perms for them has a habit of just disappearing for days at a time.

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>>40151176
Yay, Kaela!

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>>40148893
Yeah Cover owns the IP so they are getting their pound of flesh.
Thing is for Mori this is less about now and more about her future. It's gotten her recognition with Universal. So the potential for her roommate to get a deal with them has now increased considerably.

[Anonymous No.]

Gura doko?

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>>40086979
Chloe should be careful, given the history of Hololive's previous #1 earners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40152625
Tummy hort, much projects, etc.

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>>40130743
Suisei sells a ton of merch. She would be first or second, fighting with Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40087268
in all my years poisoning my brain with e-girls I've never felt more loved than with Koyori

[Anonymous No.]

Why do numbersfags do this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>40154018
All part of the plan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>40086979
ogey