/lig/ - Large Indies Global

[Anonymous No.]

Well Versed Edition

>What is /lig/?
/lig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss indie vtubers who have on average 500 viewers or more.

>Why /lig/?
Large indie vtubers have more net fans, but they are outnumbered by 2views by the thousands. This is a thread for the VIP, regardless of what language they stream on.

>Can I shill my 499view oshi here?
Considering averages fluctuate widely, all the way down to 100 is reasonable. The minimal requirement however is being Twitch partner or the YouTube equivalent in numbers.

Numbers for 12/27:
1: https://twitch.tv/Shylily (4,051)
2: https://twitch.tv/vedal987 (2,475)
3: https://twitch.tv/onigirien (2,397)
4: https://twitch.tv/BuffPup (2,054)
5: https://twitch.tv/Trickywi (1,827)
6: https://twitch.tv/Rainhoe (1,687)
7: https://twitch.tv/Vienna (1,679)
8: https://twitch.tv/LaynaLazar (1,671)
9: https://twitch.tv/anny (1,516)
10: https://twitch.tv/OkCode (1,468)

Non-English:
1: https://twitch.tv/vo_ine (14,272) *Korean
2: https://twitch.tv/gosegugosegu (9,145) *Korean
3: https://twitch.tv/kagasumire (3,505) *Japanese

>Wait isn't that one a corpo?
For historical reasons, small companies are fine temporarily as long as they have one talent at 500-ish.

>Twitch Clips Guide
https://pastelink.net/34vd5

>VOD Archival Guide
https://pastebin.com/1i8hF902

>Koikatsu cards (SEEEEEEEX)
https://mega.nz/folder/JYtkXJwL#07gAQCQqI_9FsmX9oQJKSA

>/lig/ Koikatsu Archive
https://mega.nz/folder/KfJXHCZZ#a_Rp4Ckt4wPZkB4zLdShew

>Tiermaker
https://tiermaker.com/create/-lig--unofficial-version-551-maker-maker-embed-tier-list--15161259

>/lig/ Chuuba Birthday Calendar (WIP)
https://www.canva.com/design/DAE-XgWodVg/ofLz4QC1yPPQ4T6TTAE0fw/edit?utm_content=DAE-XgWodVg

>Upcoming Birthdays:
January 2nd - Milky
January 3rd - Olivia Monroe
January 11th - Clauvio

>Experimental /lig/ booru
https://booru.plus/+largeindiesglobal

>Ducks
(embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) https://www.twitch.tv/dashducks (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)

Other useful threads:
>>>/vt//#/
>>>/vt//wvt/
>>>/vt//asp/
>>>/vt//corpo/
>>>/vt//indie/
>>>/vt//vsj+/
>>>/vt//voms/
>>>/vt//vrt/

Previous Thread >>39836880

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>>39851542
damn, that's a throwback

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>>39850448
holy shit what is this from

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Does anyone have that one kk video of Anny fucking Tob really hard? Can't seem to find the thread in the archives even though I remember multiple of the posts near it word for word

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>>39851716
yea. i had that image saved for ages just never found a way to use it

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krx50 hate

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>>39851786
It's in the OP mega lazy-sama

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>>39851869
would

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silly lady is melting my heart
THEY"RE ALL MINE

[Anonymous No.]

I miss filian

[Anonymous No.]

filian is based

[Anonymous No.]

filian's content is too zoomzoom for me

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/gzc1IZZsJ2Q
giri and kson muscle girls video

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>>39852297
It's all about her personality and her alt streams that makes me love her so much

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I LOVE VEENER

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>>39852454
Would Vienna be okay sharing with Bao? I just want that threesome between two really good friends.

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>>39852375
you’ve never met her anon, go download hinge

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>>39852375
For me it's her positivity and energy. Alt streams don't have that and I know they're not supposed to.

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>>39852507

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>>39852624
Public use? Fuck yeah.

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wife_dm_!

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>>39852521
Stop reminding me. It hurts.

>>39852622
I like her alt streams because she's just being herself there and that's the good stuff. Letting us in a bit into her little world.

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>>39852622
Damn she fit as fuck.

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>>39853035
Imagine the sex

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>>39853082
What's sex

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I bet she fapped thinking of ghost instead of chat last night

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>>39852877
>letting us in a bit of her world
Pass. It's tempting but I don't want to feel parasocial. It's unhealthy and I've got enough problems as is.

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>>39853219
it’s when a woman punches you in the balls but doesn’t make you pay for it

[Anonymous No.]

Requesting Shondo's death scream be played right into my hungover ears.
Thank you, liggerman.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>39853313
imagine the apology sex

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>>39853326
Why be scared of a little escapism. Don’t you want to feel what love is like?

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>>39853326
She made me parasocial so I'm going all the way. Straight to hell.

[Anonymous No.]

Saru banishing the sexhavers yesterday was pretty ebin not gonna lie.

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>>39853528
Do you have a timestamp? I think I missed that and just saw the guy sperging out and getting banned afterwards

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>>39853569
Sorry brother no idea, was pretty sloshed myself.

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>>39853655
Do you remember what she said?

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shondo

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>>39853811
The sperg came into chat and said something like "Me and my gf are playing pokemon while we watch you".
Saru lost her shit and told the sperg to stop bragging about his relationship in front of her and her chat.
Sperg proceeded to sperg and eventually get banned.
Many laffs were had.

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>>39853992
my beloved

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>>39854062
incredibly based and fuck normalfagspilled

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>>39854062
This is not a good thing. It makes saru sound crazy and jealous. Why would you support that behavior?

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>>39854166
I fucking love psycho girls

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>>39854062
based

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>>39854166
>it makes saru sound crazy and jealous
>

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>>39854062
that was cringe as fuck, saru should stop drinking

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What low effort new years stream would you like to see saru do instead of a normal meme react stream

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>>39854448
lewd asmr on cb

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>>39854448
Surprise invitation to Mousey's VR new years stream

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>>39854448
Lewd asmr on my penis

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>>39854166
If you watch saru it means you agreed that she is your little sister/gf, having another sister/gf is cheating.

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>>39854576
Ew

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how can i kill my oshis boyfriend?

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>>39854594
So it's like Oli's mandatory friendship clause, only crazier?

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Saru had some good moments yesterday, also her getting sad about the DMs she gets treating her as a findom

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tickle x3

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>>39853346

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>>39854709
Closer to shondos mandetory marriage clause

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>>39854844
i was about to ask why does she sound like someone just cut her legs off..

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>>39854844
That's the stuff

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Alice

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i love maris art style so much

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>>39854708
Like 90% of them are weak to bullets

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>>39854952
what’s his end goal?

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>>39855034
only 90%?

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>>39855034
what about the other 10%?

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>>39855131
>>39855114
They're me

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How do I kill all my oshi's other husbands?

[Anonymous No.]

selkie's models were so fucking good. goddamn shame that she died of ligma.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm starting the VOD, how retaded bat was here?

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>>39855400
*how retarded was Bat here
do your English reps, friend

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stay blessed my liggers

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>>39855400
very
https://streamable.com/lqiagh

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>>39855759
KEK

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>>39855488

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good morning, I hate Layna

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>>39855850
no fuck you, learn my fucking language you filthy barbarian

[Anonymous No.]

im back to watching marimari_en at 4 am
what happened...

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>>39855959
You will live to see English bastardized beyond recognition and you will like it.

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>>39856140
I HATE IT

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>>39856086

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Tricky is my oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39856086
same...

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>>39856086 (me)
>>39856285
i made that post...

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>>39856393
i know i didnt

[Anonymous No.]

>>39856298
I believe you

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God I really want to cum inside Shyrei (Squchan)

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>>39854166
Not frog watcher but psycho girls are hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>39856298
what went wrong in your life for you to end up like this?

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>>39857210
alcohol

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Sexhavers ITT, help. How do I DM saru and treat her like a bottom/brat, while not coming off as disrespectful?

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>>39857414
cease

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>>39857548
Cease what? She wants DMs but retards treat her as a mommy so I want to send her a nice one that would make her happy

[Anonymous No.]

Watching the NinaBat collab and hearing Moriko audibly flustered over being called good girl is doing things to me

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>>39857713
just talk to her as if she was a friend, that's it, there is no secret.

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I want to marry Vienna and make her happy

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>>39857905
I don't want to get friend zoned right out of the gate

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>>39855850
Whenever I see this I can't tell if it's us looking down on bat or bat leaning over us.
In my mind it will always be the latter.

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I MISSED A THREAD

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>>39858162
then you'll want to make it clear that you desire her sexually and that you're confident in your abilities, I recommend sending her a dick pic as well as telling her how many girls it's been inside (feel free to lie about this part, it helps if you come up with details about each girl and the circumstances to sell the lie), every girl you ever interact with is going to want to know you have the credentials, it's like a job interview

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>>39858162
if you're worried about that then you'll never touch a vagina you haven't paid for.

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>>39858599
how many days left for her to come back
hope you're holding up

also, I just realized thats the vienna one with filian on top??? lmao

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Is your oshi an alcoholic?

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>>39858726
Every vagina is paid for in some way.

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>>39858885
Yeah, she gets drunk on being with me

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>>39858467
we can see the ground behind bat
>is she leaning over us ?

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>>39858885
no but she's addicted to vr cigarettes

[Anonymous No.]

>>39859035
Anon spitting facts

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>>39858885
stop triggering the frogfags

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>>39858885
very

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I love my wife and her wife!

[Anonymous No.]

>>39858885
She likes beer and smokey whiskey
No idea if she drinks everyday

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>>39859152
It's a bad habit

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>>39858885
no, but

sometimes she's drinking at 10am "because its 4pm in EU"

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>>39859364
Your oshi is over 30

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imagine being naturally retarded and drinking alcohol everyday on top of it, ngmi

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>>39859484
no

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>>39858774
She is supposed to be back tomorrow. Though she said there is a chance she won't be.

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>>39859142
Might as well be a wall

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>>39858885
no she's addicted to caffeine

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>>39859035

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>>39859526
And the roof as a sliding door ?

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I love beating up this punching bag like you wouldn't believe.

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>>39857786
bat is made to be bullied by compliments

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>>39859581
It's chic

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>>39857786
>Ninaaa~

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>>39859565
She's just like me

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>Oh wow that was a close one, did you see that?
>Nina....

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>>39859493
Please be nice to Saru she’s doing her best

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>>39860317
wanna shove that can

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>>39859493
kek

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>>39860086
God that was so cute

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>>39856298
i respect it, at least its no rainoe

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Good morning I love my oshi!

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I just remembered, saru said we should email her pics of ourselves in military gear if we're in the military, shondo said if ww3 happens we should DM her pics of ourselves in our military uniforms. Literilly the same person.

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>>39860344
what is this image

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>>39860927
if ww3 happen they are both fucked cause europe is getting bombed to shit again

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>>39857786

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>>39861014
ww3 wouldn't happen it would just be a nuclear exchange and seoul getting wiped out by artilery.

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bat is going to europe. the worst continent takes another L

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If there's ever WW3, I'll record some footage and send it to all chuubas if I survive.

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I miss the Sqoochie.

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>>39861351
isn't the bulk of the trip gonna be in bongland?

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>>39861351
go to bed Moriko, and start a skin care regimen that can only be appreciated by another girl, sexually.

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>>39861351
Bat is coming back to Albania...

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>>39859757
>pin bat down
>shower her in praise and love
>feel her break as tears well up in her eyes
>hug her as tight as you can and continue praising her as she fully loses composure

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>>39861436
that is in europe

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>>39861555
no they left

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>>39861610
left my nuts on your face, bitch

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>>39861610
tard

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>>39861649
it's true we put thrusters on the east side of the islands and we're in the americas now

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>>39861720
But I put chibidoki on the west side kicking her flippers in the water so you actually collided with france

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>>39861808
YOU MOTHERFUCKER

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>>39861351
I am more than ready to make her take a long, hard, deep L as a welcome gift.

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>>39861808
Should've put her giant head south and clog the la manche channel actively connecting UK and France by land

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>>39861972
amazing and then the brrrrs would reverse the gulf stream

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Chibi has such unsexy model
I miss april fools milf chibi

[Anonymous No.]

have you washed your ass today?

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>When a small bratty vtuber wants to join UNO night and can't buy in because she's a DMlet with no cock images to her name

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>>39861875
I want to punch this image (not in a sexual way)

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>>39862497
they use dick pics as currency?

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>>39862621
you don't?

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>>39862497
brb

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>>39862428
I wash my ass every time I shit

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>>39862833
Same bro

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Tierlist prompt:
I am going into battle and need only your strongest liggers. What class is your oshi?

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>>39862833
it's not washing unless you use soap andor deionized water, bidet cuck.

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your oshi a slut

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>>39862428
no but Im about to work out before Olivia goes live and will after

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>>39862916
I'm not putting soap in my ass, it'll wash away the natural oils

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>>39862934
good

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>>39862914
Liggerman is clearly a wizard

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>>39862914
This girl is a berserker.

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>>39861808
>>39861972
>>39862164
Stop making me think about giant Chibi

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>>39863149

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>>39863239
get away from my house pest

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>>39862621
Look kid. Online girls get more dick pics than google servers get spam emails, and vtubers are no exception. So they do what any good girl does, and trade them around like pokemon cards with their inner circle. One day someone pulled out a deck of cards and suggested they up the stakes, and it took off from there.

Any oshi with a passionate community and a gift for cards has a whole library of cocks to gamble as they please. Some newcomers might think they're clever and start begging back alley image boards to fill their coffers, but that'd just be pathetic.

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>>39862914
wizard

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>>39863239
I'm ready for my daily vore session

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>>39862914
cleric

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No stream today (as previously planned)

Hope she feels better tomorrow

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https://twitter.com/NinanininVT/status/1608463343827750912
Oh no, she read the threads...

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>>39863692
sorrowful really does need a giant cock shadow

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>>39863764
I'm pretty sure someone did that already

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>>39863764
this but the teefee one with the shy eyes instead

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>>39863692
I don't watch her but I voted no

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>>39862914
Ranger

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>>39863692
if she read the threads she wouldnt ask openly for feedback

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>>39863692
>she read the threads...
a terrible decision. the only good that can come from that is that i can call you a dog fucker.

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>>39851542
Good book.

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>>39863692
Could be worse...

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>>39863692
I don't dislike her new model per se, but don't you think it's showing too much skin?

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>>39863692
Post nut clarity

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>>39863692
the new model looks incredibly asian which is ironic since she;s dutch.

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>>39863933
>

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>>39863692
If she read the threads she would already know just about everyone hates this new model

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>>39852624
seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeex

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>>39864006
>just about everyone

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I found the clip of saru shitting in gf havers
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1691267078?t=03h02m15s
The guy just wouldn't let it go
>[2:42:29] theinsanityphox: Hey Saruei what’s up me and my girlfriend are here
>[3:01:55] theinsanityphox: Me and my girlfriend are playing Pokémon scarlet and violet while watching you Saruei
>[3:03:20] theinsanityphox: So you want me to go ?
>[3:04:07] theinsanityphox: So you want me to leave?
>[3:13:10] theinsanityphox: So what happened that Saruei hates my existence?
>[3:28:04] theinsanityphox: So Saruei was joking around about me ?
>[3:32:10] theinsanityphox: So me being here is bad because I have a girlfriend?
Plus more that got deleted when he got banned here:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1691267078?t=03h38m15s

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fruit snacks

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>>39864195
ears too big

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>>39864116
kek, blowing delusions away anon

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>>39864131
Her throwing a tantrum about someone being in a relationship in a fast paced chat is the most retarded and immature thing I’ve seen a streamer do. Maybe I’m too used to my oshi being happy whenever people mention they’re in a good spot but the very least Saru could’ve done is ignore that man rather than derail the stream in tard rage

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>>39864258
OK phox

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>>39864131
kek based

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>>39864006
you mean, you and your many replies hate the new model.

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>>39864294
>>39864116
>>39864006
oh no no no vtsisters

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>>39864131
saru is normalfag anon

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>>39864116
At least people in her Twitter bubble likes it or pretends to like it for her sake.

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>>39864195
stop posting your shitty porn

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why are you being gay and retarded this early on

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>>39864131
I'm glad she keeps her streams normie free

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>>39849940
Frogbros, some wires got crossed last night and I ended up in a dream with your oshi. She was actually very sweet but definitely needed raelease. Anyway she should be feeling pretty good today.

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Do you DM your oshi your dick directly, or does she take initiative and snap pictures when you aren't looking?

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>>39864397
Have you seen her chat it’s as norm is as it gets

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>>39863692
only real issue with it is the face overall though it does seem like a step down from her last model but why is she using this in the first place? isn't grape making her a new model now?

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>>39864116
Wij van Wc-eend adviseren Wc-eend

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>>39864444
>raelease

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>CET schedule
6pm lucy chat gives therapy
8pm shondo + nina the dark pictures
9pm Saru high on life

off: squ Olivia milky bean tanya vienna

I dated, not a lot happening today

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>>39864474
she is doing some sort of lore/arc thing which is what is supposed to keep things fresh

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>>39864131
That normie got fucking obliterated

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>>39864538
*updated

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>>39864320
he better get to work spamming that poll kek

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>>39864444
Quads

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>>39863692
This is a more complex question than a simple yes/no. The only change I'd really make is less cleavage.

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>>39864669
bat and grape already shat on it on stream

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>>39864116
could see it going up if the question was "do you like the new model" instead of "do you like me even with the new model" but not by much because most people do not have strong opinions on models

[Anonymous No.]

>>39863692
Silly neener, just draw the model you want

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>>39864787
damn nice friends

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>>39864131
holy based
>>39864538
>I dated
normalfag get out

[Anonymous No.]

>>39852304
It's this yab potential for the girigiri?

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>>39864787
They disliked the way the artist did the separation and gave them both extra work to make it functional, not the look of it

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>>39864841
Yes, they are. Nina got a piece of shit, and they hotfixed the hot garbage into something usable. So the question is does she ditch the bad past, or hold on to the memorable friendship?

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>>39862914
dancer

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I like nina's new model, much better than the previous one

[Anonymous No.]

You know what I think is cute about Mari Mari, even more so than when she says the n-word?
When she says "uh-oh".
Did anyone watch the raw egg eating contest and think it was funny that whenever she ate another egg or felt sick she would say "uh-oh" so often that it sounded involuntary and I thought it was someone doing a sound board redeem, but it was actually her?

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>>39864244
looks unrealistic

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>>39864916
>>39864932
Honestly they should've spoken up then so she gets a (partial) refund then or did that happen?

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>>39864979
who are you?

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>>39864258
We like Saru for being immature, it's part of her bratty charms.

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>>39865036
the guy who thinks mari mari is cute

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>>39863692
I finally figured out why I find this model so fucking weird and uncanny and reminiscent of an NTR doujin heroine. Her face looks like it was ripped from the Yuffie doujin guy SGK. Her face looks like someone who would enjoy being raped by 20 soldiers at once. It also has almost exactly the same structure as fucking damocles and that really doesn't help.

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>>39865066
>we

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>>39864974
You're a good liar, she needs more people like you in her bubble

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>>39865015
>artists
>refunds
>integrity
jej

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>>39865015

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>>39863692
This isn't a fair question. She should word it "do you still love me but like me old model better?" to get a more honest response.
if you begin the question with "do you like me" of course we will say yes. We would like Nina even if she wore a crown of poop on her head, but we would like it better without the crown of poop.

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>>39865135
you keep malding

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>>39865114
Yes, me her bf and me her older brother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39862914
Wizard, maybe Warlock or (Dark) Priestess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865110
You're kinda right. Also, the body looks like the new Kronii model.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39863692
>all those pity yes votes

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>>39864444

[Anonymous No.]

Ninashills continue to be the weakest fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>39862914
midboss

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[Anonymous No.]

>>39865121
This unironically looks like you pasted a separate head on some random body from a Z grade porn VN. I actually can not tell if this is an edit or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865204
>new Kronii model
You'll go to hell for mentioning this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865407
Now I don't know if the kys normalfag poster is saru or moriko

[Anonymous No.]

Never ask if your viewers like something, they will always say yes. I'll never forget when silver asked if people liked her new panels before she even showed it and everyone spammed "yes" before she started shitting on them and told them she hasn't even shown it to them yet.

Always AB test. With new stuff it's hard but you could show all the old models along with the new and ask which model is your favorate to get a more accurate indicator of how much people like the new one, though even then people will be predispositioned to say the new one because they think that's what you want to hear

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865464
they take turns

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865500
silver can go die of cancer

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865418
Now I'm thinking of the weg meme.

[Anonymous No.]

>these answers to the poll just aren't valid because... because they just aren't, okay??

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865110
>opinion based on exposure to NTR doujin and schizo artist in residence in his head
At least now that you've figured it out you shouldn't be surprised when others don't see it through the same lenses

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865500
the poll is anonymous and there is literally no reason to lie. you can't keep coping like this whenever you find out you're in the minority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865448
Were they going for jap ghost monster look

[Anonymous No.]

>people like things I don't like

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865559
>Poll question is "Do you like me(my body)"
Exact same energy as a girl asking if she's fat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865535
wondering who hates silver, this is a pretty abrasive comment

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865625
Sinder hates her because no matter how hard she tries she can't be her

[Anonymous No.]

>>39864131
Reminder that she is 30...

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865500
ask to rate from 1 to 10 a couple of models, with the new one there in the middle to get an idea

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865688
>body of a 30 year old
>brain of a 12 year old
The exact opposite of what a man wants

[Anonymous No.]

we're definitely not gonna loop again next thread, I can feel it

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865570
Anonymity does nothing when retards think the streamer will be happy if they give her a certain answer. It happened before that a vtuber made a change, asked in a poll if eople liked the change, got 96% yes, I one guyd her into reversing the change, she made a new poll and again 90% said they like the new new, which was the old, one.

And that's not even considering that on Twitter 99% of the people who Wil odely click on pols don't even watch you

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865724
I miss Tob

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865718
wtf, I'd honestly prefer a 30yo body...

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865718
Idk that's exactly what I want

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865718
speak for yourself homosexual pedo

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865767
I thought she was supposed to stream last night

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865559
No one even needs to deny these results. With an audience filled with lobotomite yes-men and porn addicts like hers this ratio might as well say 200% no. More than 10% dislike on anything this major is basically the beginnings of a death spiral.

[Anonymous No.]

womp womp

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865808
nah, last stream ended with her saying she probably wouldn't stream yesterday

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865834
why do I feel it's nina writing

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865718
Idk, seems good enough for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865834
>these answers to the poll just aren't valid because... because they just aren't, okay??

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865834
>Am I fat
The question is as useless as the results.
A good question is "check out all my models over the years, which is your favorite?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865570
>literally no reason to lie
nta but the entire internet is people lying even though they have no reason to and often gain nothing from it

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865718
she needs to make her new body younger instead of older

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865834
>STOP THE COUNT
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865915
Anon, it's like those nico polls when there's an event there. Getting less than a 95% approval means that it flopped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865834
interesting that it went from 12% to 25% after it was linked /here/

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866012
>>39865915

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw they don't love their oshi regardless of how she looks
if she likes it, it's what matters

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865834
post reeks of exgosling with emotional insults to fan base and firm prediction of certain doom

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866021
only nina fans saw the comment on twitter, /here/ you have more experienced vtuber fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866021
Yeah getting some honest feedback will do that to a poll

[Anonymous No.]

>/vt/ doesn't matter as a demographic
>>>39866021
who do I believe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866021
just a small coincidence, nothing weird about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866021
>A thread with 73 ips and a large number of ninashills changed the poll
Not to mention it was always hovering around 20%.
>>39866049
I can't actually tell if this is falseflagging cause ninashills are that braindead but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now and say you're baiting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865834
Anon, real talk. Don't fall prey to thinking that a pattern is real just because you think it's plausible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866106
who don't follow or watch her

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866021
>73 posters
>301 votes
Worst case, /lig/ account for 25% of the votes.

[Anonymous No.]

RAKASTAN LOOMIA JA HALUAN MENNÄ NAIMISIIN TÄMÄN DORKAN KANSSA, PERUSTAA PERHEEN TÄMÄN DORKAN KANSSA, JA KASVATTAA AINAKIN 43 LASTA TÄMÄN DORKAN KANSSA, LAPSIA JOTKA PERIVÄT PARHAAT PIIRTEEMME JA OMINAISUUTEMME, MUTTA JOTKA OVAT MYÖS YHTÄ AUTISTISIÄ SUOMALAISIA KUIN HEIDÄN KAUNIS DORKA ÄITI

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866136
>liking your oshi beyond her model is falseflagging
not even much of a nina viewer but what the fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866174
I voted on all of my alts

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866211
>mad because someone picked up on your poor attempt at falseflagging

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866136
im not a ninashill and im not baiting

I will love my oshi regardless of how she looks, if she likes it

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866231
well now I know you're just reverse baiting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865834
bad question
art amazing
rigging lmao
also this question could be interpreted as not being about the model at all... its quite impressive how its maybe the worst possible way to formulate the question

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866211
Assuming you're honest, it's one thing to like your oshi beyond her model, and it's another to support bad decisions.

[Anonymous No.]

Hi Alker

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866162
they have seen quite a few models though, good ones and bad ones

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866254
Does she really like it though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866211
25% of your fans saying that they don't like your model is more concerning than 25% of the general population saying the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866288
Alker can’t selfpost in here because she isn’t lig yet

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know how nina is but my oshi values honesty over toe sucking so I will always give her honest feedback on the quality of her content

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866282
>any model change is a bad decision
wew

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866307
if she didnt like it would she use it?
its not like she's paid for using it is she?

there's literally no reason for her to use it if she doesnt like it

[Anonymous No.]

Momosexx live!
https://www.twitch.tv/momotexx

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866312
it's a new model, some wil get used to it with time

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866353
Sunk cost fallacy

[Anonymous No.]

>90 hidden posts
oh boy this is a good one huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865767
I want her to Tweet so I can reply on Twitter and say "Hi Tob"

[Anonymous No.]

imagine arguing with people who think this is Nina's best model

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866452
stop filtering the good stuff, and then you won't have to complain

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866460
it has charm but it's really dated. I can't take anyone seriously who thinks she should only be using this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866499
joke's on you, I already hid my own post so I didn't see your reply

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866312
50% more no votes, accounting for a third of total, appeared after posting here

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866342
>any model change
Anon, good model changes are different from bad model changes. See whorca and dm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866555
You're not telling me the results of a poll can't be trusted because of who is voting on it are you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866592
subtle bait, very nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866616
>bait
why? whorca was an objectively good change and as much as I liked the 3D dm, her 2D was good

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866592
every single time any chuuba changes their model this exact same timeloop happens. dm still gets oneguy'd about the 3D model and whorca was literally using a vroid prior to L2D and no one even watched her before that so no one got to see the old model. it's a terminal case of old good new bad in every single instance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39864346
Okay

boomer

Whatever you say

boomer

[Anonymous No.]

girls fc need their own thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866609
You yourself differentiated between the values of different pools of voters

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866690
stop being rational

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866460
Homely Nina is best Nina

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866695
I like this one

[Anonymous No.]

>potentially gave my oshi a menhera attack
>get a menhera attack for giving my oshi a menhera attack
oh no

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866706
shondo*

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866694
Ah, I'm retarded and forgot about the timeloop.
Guess that's what I get for trying to be rational on the interwebz

[Anonymous No.]

Bad models need to be called out, it doesn't matter who or how or if you even watch them. Letting shit designs slip through uncriticized out of lazyness or willing denial is equivalent to getting AIDS and raping children just to infect them, not even for the sexual pleasure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866802
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866782
>oshi goes menhera because you went menhima
>forum goes menthema because your group went mentheya
>entire community goes mentherea

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866824
No

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866706
shut the fuck up rael

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866849
zimbabwe

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866857
nta but shame

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866849
good post but the gape image gave me an erection

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW6hheq8qfg

[Anonymous No.]

>Vtuber does something cringe
>Liggermen: "Based"
Stop enabling retarded behavior

[Anonymous No.]

my worthless opinion is that nina's current model is better than previous but by far the one before previous was way better than both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866947
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866921

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866947
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866947
Cringe

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866824
https://youtu.be/TgmTsa3rFU0?t=576

[Anonymous No.]

I trust a vtuber's judgement more than anon's desu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866947
let saru drink, it's based

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866947
You still mad, phox?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866980
I'm a Vtuber and Nina's model is shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>39863692
I like the design but I don't think the model is very good

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867011
meat...

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a vtuber and nina's model is amazing

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866795
>>39866881
deflecting girls fucking cringe fags

[Anonymous No.]

im a m*le and ninas model is the tits

[Anonymous No.]

>>39864567
>she is doing some sort of lore/arc thing which is what is supposed to keep things fresh
>lore/arc
But why? Relying on loreshit is eiither cringe or ends up badly executed. Just do light stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867126
The lore follows her development (as a person), its pretty light honestly

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867126
she's magical girl themed and is doing a magical girl show thing with a storyline and seasons.

[Anonymous No.]

I don’t care for vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867126
This guy doesn't watch saru

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867203
you're on the right board

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867097
seething seether seethes

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867126
the vtubing audience has really gone to shit since you people arrived

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867271
>you people
just say white people

[Anonymous No.]

when I get wake up hopefully you won't be discussing nina's model for the 623792327469th time

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867218
Or Nina's lore vids, which are both light and great

[Anonymous No.]

Doesn't this nina whore have her own thread
Why do her shills come here to shit up the thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867354
*taps recap results*

[Anonymous No.]

>nooo don't post about saru
>nooo don't post about filian
>nooo don't post about shondo
>nooo don't post about nina
>nooo don't post about
who is this thread for anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867354
We like whores around here

[Anonymous No.]

>>39863692
Nina really is surrounded by yesmen

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867413

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867465
Holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867443

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867413
schizos will always be the loudest in the room while enjoyers are chill

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867413
me and my braingoblins (you)

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867413
I don't care about thread quality I will read every single post no matter how bad it gets

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867413
>lists all the biggest vtubers
When they are that big they don't need people to give exposure to them ITT, other smaller vtubers do need it and the constant spam of the big vtubers prevents that

[Anonymous No.]

nina's anti is going insane kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867558
This

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867558
The people cry out for /mig/

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867522
Truth isn't a democracy

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867558
why are you in the large indies global thread and not in western vtubers general if you don't like discussion about the biggest vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867558
this isnt /wvt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867465
QRD on this pic? Why does it get posted so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867558
>>39867588
please try being subtle next time

[Anonymous No.]

I refuse to watch chuubas with the lgbt tag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867575
at least one is always present because his blogposting revealed he both does no real work and gets his social fix /here/

[Anonymous No.]

is catbox down? can't access anything posted there

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867689
based

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867627
the two are looking more similar by the day

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867711
it's dead, only litterbox works

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867716
blame the shondofags

[Anonymous No.]

It's not like Nina knowing her model is shit going to change anything but make her more menhera

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867694
I think he hates all chuubas, rotating once in a while between them

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867716
Blame the grimfags or whoever her name is whos only discussion is her interaction with 2view males

[Anonymous No.]

Is the thread unhinged because there's no sex chuuba live?

>>39867711
Catbox dies every now and then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867687
If you really knew me, Migtard, you would recognize that first post isn't my typing or rhetorical style

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867716
going by how lig has repeated all the major wvt arcs you cannot escape the tribute arc forever it really does look like a time displaced copy. cherish it before it dies too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867779
It's unhinged because watching vtubers continuously erodes your ability to act like a rational human being.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867797
we’ll never turn into backroom wvt because this is a blue board an we have one dedicated janny who sometimes does his job

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867843
Sounds like a you problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867716
is there even a difference? Arent alot of /lig/ from the west anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867843
sounds like a skill issue

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867739
thankfully nina isnt menhera

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867877
there is that at least, but the schizo is still trying his best to kill discussion in favor of schizoposting. this is why I strongly encourage liveposting and general posting about your oshi. unfortunately all my favorites are taking the day off today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867966
jej

[Anonymous No.]

Any comparisons with /wvt/ is retarded because that place is literally just selfposters, they have like 200 people in their tierlist maker

[Anonymous No.]

This is why the criteria should have been 500 viewers

[Anonymous No.]

It's a Buffpup kind of morning

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867981
>this is why I strongly encourage liveposting
fuck off retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868004
there he is

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867465
all this pic does is remind me of heyimbee, and then i get mad

[Anonymous No.]

>>39866695
>that fixated IK
You could at least try to make it a bit animated

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868004
kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868004
liveposting is good but we should go back to mentioning watch chuuba we’re posting about so the thread isn’t filled with contextless vagueposts

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868002
yiff in hell furfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868114
get new material

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868135

[Anonymous No.]

Stop with the retardation, mogra is on.
https://www.twitch.tv/mogra

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868103
this is true, too many people try to get cute with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868191
what the fuck is a mogra

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868221
j-pop and anison group

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868191
garbage sounds that don't even classify as music

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868191
I only listen to videogame music

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868287
I have just the thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxd-X8P-GtY

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868287
you're in luck then because they also play that last I checked

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868314
Me too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJYvCHm3Ov4

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868287
Friendly reminder that saying this will instantly dry the panties of even gamer girls and those play anime characters on the internet

[Anonymous No.]

lose weight fatty

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868413
sounds like a skill issue, always worked out for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868413
Good, I prefer man

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868430
these aren’t mint’s twitter dms oomfie

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868413
good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868444

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868430
I'm trying bro

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>see my oshi is working on her stream related autism project for chat
>remember I've been shitposting here for the past 3h
I feel like shit. I need to draw some fanart or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868696

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868747
I think we have the same oshi. Say the first letter of her name

[Anonymous No.]

I'm gay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868794
U

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868831

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868794
S. Or R

[Anonymous No.]

>>39867966
I have to admit, I've only ever see Nina be menhera on twitter. I've never caught her being full on menhera on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868875
Saruei or Rael

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868910
not a vtuber

[Anonymous No.]

>Thread about coombaiting anime women
>"I'm gay"
I don't understand how this happens

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868953
>coombaiting anime women
not all chuubas

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868953
someone post that cute purple femboy butt

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868973
It's all he can see anymore, please understand

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868973
My oshi doesn't coom bait, she just gets a lot of behind the scenes coomers anyways

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868875
Seems like we do have the same oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869007

[Anonymous No.]

ababababababababa

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868794
B

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869077
why doesn't shxtou have more lewds
I need some gay chuuba art to jack off to

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868945
looks like an anime girl to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>39868945
This person sounds like a depressed bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>39865834
>Nina probably wasn't able to pull of that dress IRL, and she can't pull it off in anime form either
Being Nina must be suffering

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869108
She's actually very sweet

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869123
damn you wrote this in the most female way possible

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869087
Awahwahwahwahwahwah

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869173
might be the cattiest post i've seen here kek

[Anonymous No.]

i want to stick a crayon in my nose and then feed it to matoimiia

[Anonymous No.]

https://litter.catbox.moe/rr0w9r.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869285
It's been an interesting journey breaking down Saru's walls from "I'm a tough badass bitch" to her current form and relationship with chat

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869661
Aw shit, highlighted wrong post.
>>39869150
Intended

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869661
Don't post while drinking saru

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869661
Yes, typing in your credit card information and rewarding her with money every time she behaves in the way you’d like is very interesting

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869860
>credit card information
skill issue

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869661
Crying cathartic tears while listening to Sonic music on her birthday was a real turning point

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869860
do good shit and get rewarded for it so you do more good shit in the future. what a novel concept

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869860
I don't type it every time I have it saved :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869661
Twitter shitting on her attitude humbled her

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869490

[Anonymous No.]

faggots

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870105
turns out i've got mine memorized. chunking is a really great memory technique.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869100
NTA but the male lgbt literally gets no good artwork and thats been an issue for years. Everyone wants to draw women not men, unless those men are on women

[Anonymous No.]

>Shondo unironically eating coleslaw
Why is my wife so fucking white?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870254
reminds me that we got cucked out of Momote drawing gay sex

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869860
this ligga still crying he's unemployed

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870144
I like this donald poster. he brings me joy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870368
I told you simple-reaction-imageposters were the best

[Anonymous No.]

page 10 liggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870154
Delicious isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870430
Can't wait to talk about nina's shitty model and saru's drinking problems in the next thread!

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.twitch.tv/cirno_tv

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870468
or you could do something else with your time

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870468
least it isn't pedo posting

[Anonymous No.]

lucypyHeadpat

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870468
Can't wait to rip your eyeballs out through your nostrils in the next thread!

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870468
I'm starting to think saruei is not autistic, just brain damaged from a decade long of alcoholism

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870572
Calm down Alice, shouldn't you be in bed recovering?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870572
imagine being finnish

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870468
We could talk about Tricky and Giri instead since they're live right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870580
Nah I've read her posts in old forums. She has always been like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870572
Ow the edge

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870667
alcoholic?

[Anonymous No.]

baking bread

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870685
Autistic

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870744
Im gonna roll with both

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870729
to late

>>39870754
>>39870754
>>39870754

[Anonymous No.]

>>39870772
so french?

[Anonymous No.]

>>39869100
Momo draws lewd versions of vyugays, she's working on a comic right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>39871931
that's exactly the one I was talking about
she did that twitter retweet/like challenge and the image that was supposed to lead into sex didn't get enough for her to draw a followup
the other stuff she did of that comic also ended with a bait and switch because it seemed like they were going to have sex but then the next page just had him go "and then he fell asleep and we didn't fuck"